Don't need Bile to roll randomly, either pick one or roll for two. If you also have Bile you can reroll one or both of the dice....
@MasterMind08714 күн бұрын
Good thing he was the first model I bought 🖤
@Almighty_MageАй бұрын
Csm have the most fun detachments
@GCarssowАй бұрын
You're correct at 14:15: you can't do a Dark Pact when you fight on death (it's pretty much the one time in the game in which you can't). Also don't forget that Diabolic Regeneration can bring back Obliterators as well. 1CP to bring back an 80 point model (especially on that might have higher Toughness and BS from the augmentations) is a great value.
@40kDirtbagsАй бұрын
@@GCarssow ya sucks
@nickwilson2097Ай бұрын
ok hear me out, you spend 2 CP on delayed mutations to gain +2" move, taking D3 mortals, and assuming a guy dies then 1 CP on diabolic regeneration to bring back a guy, put him in front, then you've gained like 5+ inches on your move that turn for the low cost of 3 CP. Maybe could win the game in the right situation but probably not lol
@40kDirtbagsАй бұрын
@@nickwilson2097 I wonder if that would be worth it.
@willlondon496428 күн бұрын
Doing that with big base models like possessed or terminators would be excellent.
@JonAndUltАй бұрын
With the new optimisation, I got one shot at MorvenVal and his warsuits, which were on an objective with a lord and 5 legionnaires, a devastating combo.
@40kDirtbagsАй бұрын
Let's go!
@jeremiegartner464Ай бұрын
I think the PTS strat on the lord works best with nemesis claw. His super round could be insane. If you get the +1 atk and +1 str. Army. Base hammer 5 3+ 8 -2 2 goes to 6 3+ 9 -2 3 with PTS. Super round 7 3+ 10 -3 4. Reroll hits. Sustained. Dev wounds. Nemesis adds possible plus 1 hit and plus 1 wound with blank strats. If you decide to burn a cp you can use the strat that rerolls wounds on a character. He would delete things. Not counting all the dmg ap2 hits the claw brings hitting on 2s.
@kaneeijbergen889Ай бұрын
Personally I’m leaning towards running Abbie over bill. Basically the pair of 2cp strats become way more manageable with him. Beyond that I’d just say gamble on the buffs as 5/6 are simple amazing, as long as you don’t roll double 6s you’re happy
@hugodelafuente3926Ай бұрын
Abby and termies can move 7" if you choose that specific detachment buff plus an adv&chg strat cements the Abby+termi deathstar over chosen imo. (6" oblits sound fun too)
@edgarferrieu1694Ай бұрын
I could see a ten men terminator brick +lord benefit a lot from the +1 mutation for a turn. With all the gauntlets you could use the S or attack to pass a threshold before one big charge. I think the detachment rule works best with MSU army list as the buff is global and you'll really want to use your starts on one big brick or on very specific moments.
@40kDirtbagsАй бұрын
I'm going to test a termy brick
@ethangardner5050Ай бұрын
Played this last night and rolled a 1 and a 5. Turns out CSM with nonconditional World Eaters rules is really really good. Tabled my Ork opponent turn 3. I brought a hodge podge list to see what works (bile, lord, termi lord, cypher, 2x5 legio, rhino, 10 cultist, 10 chose, 10 possessed, 5 termi, landraider, 5 raptor, 5 warp, 2 oblits). Had the living carapace on termi lord and prime test subject on reg. lord. The three strats that stuck out were -1 to hit is the perfect defense, advance and charge is brutal, and I ressed an oblit at one point. I think this detachment is going to be absolutely bonkers till the next round of updates.
@40kDirtbagsАй бұрын
@@ethangardner5050 you monster
@danielpaoli1093Ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on a Nemesis Claws unit (5 man all special Melee weapons and Voice eater) with a Master of Execution? Throw a grenade against the target unit (hopefully you kill 1 guy), but if you do you will be getting +1 to hit and the unit will have full re-rolls to hit. Plus you will be targeting their character. While also preventing them from doing any stratagems. Also the alone Terminator Sorcerer with Living Carapace.
@DmanDrumsАй бұрын
It’s lord only
@40kDirtbagsАй бұрын
Lord is insane with it
@danielpaoli1093Ай бұрын
@@40kDirtbags yeah you right, I must have misread. Good catch.
@Karinor8010 күн бұрын
Ist the argumentation for all units in the Army or for only one unit.
@40kDirtbags10 күн бұрын
@@Karinor80 all units in the army
@willlondon496428 күн бұрын
Sooner or later you will roll +1 strength in melee and Cyphers bolt pistol would be S5 and his plasma pistol would be S9. Dark apostles leading chosen with +1 strength would wound T7-11 on 4's or terminators 2's. This would be cheap and funny.
@40kDirtbags26 күн бұрын
I think the da is insane in cob
@jahuamusic5508Ай бұрын
Hey buddy, I have 10 Possessed in total. Is it better to run them as 1x10 or 2x5 in this detachment?
@40kDirtbagsАй бұрын
If you plan on rapid ingress them then 10 man. Or one ten man and the rest small ones. That way 2cp is worth it for re rolls on a big squad
@jahuamusic5508Ай бұрын
@@40kDirtbags cheers buddy! I made a nice list with a Dark Apostle and a 10 man Possessed squad. MoE with a 5 man Nemesis Claw
@evilmattnАй бұрын
That‘s what she said 😂
@dannyboy4477Ай бұрын
Rubrics, plague marines get these buffs and come back at d3
@40kDirtbagsАй бұрын
@@dannyboy4477 are you serious
@dannyboy4477Ай бұрын
@40kDirtbags they are battle line and get the heretic astartes keywords
@40kDirtbagsАй бұрын
@dannyboy4477 might try 2x5
@edgarferrieu1694Ай бұрын
@@40kDirtbags plague units of 5 with 2 plasma three heavy weapons and the army buffs sounds insane haha I'm trying that too
@runeh3022Ай бұрын
The detachment rule, is that the same buff for all the infantry in the army collectively, or is is a unit by individual unit (characters counting as their own selection/roll) basis?
@wayoflifefitness5622Ай бұрын
For all units I believe
@40kDirtbagsАй бұрын
@@runeh3022 it's for the whole army
@runeh3022Ай бұрын
@@40kDirtbags that certainly renders my dream of 2+ BS Havocs obsolete. Thanks :-)