Creators HONEST thoughts on the New Lumix S9

[@MatthewDangyou]

Also this video was entirely shot on the Lumix S9😉😏 (well minus the intro😂🤷🏼‍♂️)

[@mr.s4849]

I think ok idea but a M4/3 version with G9ii specs will be the one to get:)

[@MatthewDangyou]

That could be cool! Super small compact MFT

[@BootStrapTurnerVideography]

15 minute recording limits, no mechanical shutter, no hot-shoe for flash, single UHS-II card slot, no headphone jack and micro HDMI? It's a very nice but limited camera for the price range. It's not the camera I'm looking for, but the smaller lenses planned would pair well with my S5II.

[@MatthewDangyou]

Makes sense for sure

[@michaelbell75]

Let's focus on the positives. Excellent FF sensor, best in the business IBIS, 6K open gate, 4K 4:2:2 in 10 bit, tons of codec options, built in LUT usage, advanced video features like waveforms, vectorscopes etc...all in a compact and lightweight body for only $100 more than Sony and Fuji's entry level CROP sensor cameras. It's a steal for $1500. No other new FF camera comes anywhere close for that price unless it's Panasonic's own S5II. Buy that if you need the features you mention, many of us dont.

[@BootStrapTurnerVideography]

@@michaelbell75 already own one.

[@michaelbell75]

@@BootStrapTurnerVideography ah ok nice. So you know what a great camera it is. This is 90% of the S5II in a smaller and lighter package. I sold my S5II earlier this year and just ordered one of these. This is how mirrorless was supposed to be, compact and lightweight.

[@BootStrapTurnerVideography]

@@michaelbell75 my primary use is recording theatrical events at local performing arts centers. I can on pause or stop recording at intermissions. I use HDMI to an Atomos Ninja with 2TB SSDs. What would be interesting is if the record limits are gone using the micro HDMI to 4K 30P 10-bit 4:2:2. Then it would be like the original S5 that had 30 minutes limit internal but unlimited HDMI. If it does, be a really interesting option.

[@solarion33]

Hi Matthew , I really want to know a few things , first does S9 have APS-C mode for video ? and more importantly - does Dynamic Zoom work in Aps-c mode ? I hope this feature will also be added to the S5II\x

[@VoltLover00]

You weren't "recently in Japan" YOU WERE PAID TO GO TO JAPAN AND GIVEN A FREE CAMERA TO SHILL

[@MatthewDangyou]

😂👍🏻sure mate. Still was recently in Japan, but I mention all the cons of this camera. Do I think this camera with a removed record limit or at least a 30 Minute limit and $1200 would have been a ton better. Of course! But this camera was fun to use and instead of hating on the brand I would want to see them succeed. Hopefully they can change the record limit and make the camera cheaper :) this isn’t designed for professionals but beginners which Lumix needs NEW people entering the camera world to start off with the system instead of trying to convince people just to switch entire camera ecosystems🤷🏼‍♂️

[@787UrbanApparel]

I ❤ Lumix !!! ... S9 is perfect the way it is . I own two Lumix since 2006 and it still pack a punch .

[@solarion33]

its a camera for all the girls and boys on social media doing those 10 second reels where they do silly dance or "workout" its a thing apparently.

[@MatthewDangyou]

😂🤷🏼‍♂️well yeah

[@michaelbell75]

Ive been a professional fashion/portrait photographer for 20 years and have ordered this. I can have a compact and lightweight camera with an excellent sensor that shoots all the video I need with my LUTs built right in and the ability to send right to the client while we are at the shoot, including video ready to go for their Reels thanks to the 6K open gate. All of the same things apply for wedding clients too. I can have photos and video for them while still at the reception. I never even have to touch a memory card or a computer to deliver a finished product on set. Thats how you get things done in 2024 as a working professional.

[@Bazzarrie]

Top quality video, I love fact you got lots of professionals opinions which was great. Not sure what the best go to lens works best but I preordered the kit lens 20-60 going to give it a go! Great content cheers

[@yingthao6855]

They fuck it up for not putting a viewfinder on it and a cold shoe ... wtf

[@PPLRRN]

Not another S5 please. We want a smaller body. The S9 is perfect.

[@manilamartin1001]

Looks like a great camera.

[@MatthewDangyou]

Its pretty solid for a EDC camera

[@max33kick]

The first shot of the train in the background is a perfect example of jello effect

[@MatthewDangyou]

S5ii would have been even worse though👀😅 but we all waiting for the next boy upgrade too

[@rleeshutter]

@@MatthewDangyou The S5II has the same internals, how would it have been worse? It wouldn't have, it would have been the SAME. I can guarantee it would have been better on the S5II if it was a photo using the mechanical shutter and imagine the effects you could have got if you used a flash.

[@Raist3db]

The showstopper to me is that electronic shutter only because the majority of my street photography is at night. Yes, you can use low shutter speeds and you won't get banding- that's not where you get banding. You get banding on artificial light, particularly mixed at 1/125-1/250 or faster. I wouldn't still mind trying one and see how bad or not it is.

[@MatthewDangyou]

Yeah! I didn’t have much issues at those shutter speeds at night

[@Raist3db]

@@MatthewDangyou I would have to see that for myself. I still have to see electronic shutters at night in mixed artificial light that doesn't hit banding at those shutter speeds. I don't think the S9 is particularly an outlier to these characteristics. I have found if you are at a certain distance to the lights or more consistent light or tungsten, not much of a problem. Fluorescent- different story.

[@MatthewDangyou]

Yeah I personally have yet to run into banding issues. I have a ton of night photography, but I would say this camera has been really fun to use. Going on any travel trips in the future this will be the only camera I personally will bring (unless it is for professional work)

[@Bigcookfilms]

Can you trim the video in the app?

[@MatthewDangyou]

Yes you can!

[@sdhute]

The launch of this camera with an influx of videos all saturating KZbin saying the same thing. Makes me not want this one

[@sebastienblanchetiere1323]

The hateful comments everywhere on the internet from people who didn't touch the camera make me want this one :p

[@PPLRRN]

​@@sebastienblanchetiere1323same

[@MrJapanforce]

Almost perfect street camera.

[@jimgiraffe5253]

the lumix shilling is going hard - not one person who enjoyed a free trip and free camera said that its bad and too expensive- weird . huh?

[@MatthewDangyou]

I mentioned the price and quirks of this camera at the end of the video 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@MatthewDangyou]

Have you used it yet😂 what camera at this price is giving you full frame open gate recording with gimbal like footage that is this small. I mentioned the price issues and quirks in the main video but most people don’t watch it so that is on the viewer clicking off🤷🏼‍♂️

[@sebastienblanchetiere1323]

A lot of youtubers explained the pros...and cons of this camera !!

[@jimgiraffe5253]

@@sebastienblanchetiere1323 skirted around it very gently. Lets not mention how they never explain the long term loan from panasonic- its to help them commit tax fraud.A loing term loan that they forget about means they dont have to declare the item as a gift for their tax returns. This is where the integrity is in this space.

[@PPLRRN]

Everyone mentioned it. They just understood that its not a flagship camera. Its an entry to full frame in a compact size. And for the price, ehem... ZVE1... ehem pricey.

[@martysender5539]

Love Lumix but this one overheats. Quickly. $200 with lens..Pricey. oioh. Does colored body shoot better? Paleeze. Pass.

[@MatthewDangyou]

It doesn’t really overheat for how it supposed to be used😅 didn’t overheat once in Japan🤷🏼‍♂️

[@MatthewDangyou]

It doesn’t really overheat for how it supposed to be used😅 didn’t overheat once in Japan🤷🏼‍♂️

[@PPLRRN]

Did you think it will overheat after the time limit?

[@dirkziegler9580]

I have an S5II. The S9 is no camera for me. I would miss the viewfinder. I don't like shooting in Smartphone-style.

[@iSpike]

Yeah/Nah $3,289.00 AUD - Panasonic Lumix S9 Mirrorless Camera with 20-60mm (Jet Black). I'll be staying with my trusty GH5 & GH5M2 + MFT Lumix Pro Lens collection. No need to upgrade.

[@jtchalatsis]

I'm honestly confused with all the hate this camera has been getting. I really like it for my personal reasons and I can totally understand someone not liking it but hating it? It's just a camera. If it's not for you then cool, just pick up another brand. It's not like this release is hurting you, it's just another choice out there. And especially with similarly small and crippled cameras from Sony being available for a long time now, I can't understand everyone's surprise and disgust.

[@9adriano21]

This guy a the prefect “Crash” camera, for high end production. It’s cheap, small, and capable, great to put in compromising scenarios, like outside a car, or a FPV Drone

[@MatthewDangyou]

Fpv could be really cool! The drones don’t even fly for that long. Still hoping they make it a 30 minute record limit and I could easily recommend this camera way more to more people. But crash cam is a great use case for this camera too!

[@Wave_Drop]

@@MatthewDangyoulet’s start by massively filing in complaints to remove the time limits (tests already shows the camera can easily record for prolonged times) and it will be a really cool start. Videos are super good quality.

[@MatthewDangyou]

Yeah the removal of recording limits could easily happen

[@RoyAlf]

Key issues with the S9 as a photographer, no EVF, no mechanical shutter, once you start going for FF lenses, gets very expensive. Not sure about it all, yes it's FF, but it has so many limitations.

[@MatthewDangyou]

For sure. With a bhbundle deal I was able to get a s5iiX with 3 prime lenses for $2500-$2700 which isn’t bad. We will see how much the 18-40mm lens is because that will be perfect!

[@RoyAlf]

@@MatthewDangyou thing is, I love the compact form factor, I have an x100vi on order, I had a go at the Sony a7c (the c-r is a bit over the top for my needs), coming from an XT4, a small body packed with features sounds great. But is the S9 the one, is it better than the x100vi as an EDC, or the a7Cii as a compact FF camera? You know what the S9 reminds me of, the Sigma fp, but with more features.

[@DavidGriffin]

No flash ability at all. Super Hard pass. #noDiddy this would've made sense as a mft camera.

[@MatthewDangyou]

Yeah I wouldn’t call it a professional camera for professional photographers or filmmakers though either but for travel everyday it’s great!

[@PPLRRN]

You carry a flash unit daily? This is meant to be an, oh I forgot I have a badass camera in my bag kind of camera. Nobody wants another mft camera. We want a small ff camera.

[@Princeton_James]

I like that micro four nerds channel but i guess she sold her soul. This is a junk camera!

[@sebastienblanchetiere1323]

Who are you to say that ??

[@Princeton_James]

@@sebastienblanchetiere1323 this camera is junk. Who would vouch for it?

[@sebastienblanchetiere1323]

@@Princeton_James This camera is not for me and not for you but it doesn't give you the right to shit on the content of someone else.

[@Princeton_James]

@@sebastienblanchetiere1323 I guess we have different opinions. But for someone reputable to say this is good really makes me question them moving forward. This camera has really divided reviewers into 2 camps. Those who are honest and those who have been paid off. We can objectively say that this is an overpriced very crippled camera.

[@PPLRRN]

​​@@Princeton_Jamesthe S9 is actually a near perfect camera. Panasonic is very close. For non pros this is perfect. For PROs, you will rig this out as what they always do. Put a cage with handle or a gimbal (grip), attach an external recorder like an Atomos Ninja V (EVF, time limit), use a pro mic accessory with zero latency monitoring (headphone jack), use LED lights (hot shoe), nobody uses flash centered anyways. This is both effective for off site and studio setups. So, I dont get the hate. Unless, bandwagon. Edit: Forgot about the price. Dont compare it to used cameras. And dont compare it with non-compact cameras. Dont compare it with flagships, this aint one. Dont compare it with mft or apsc. Compare it with the ZVE1, A7C2, A7CR and see how those are priced brand new.

[@lfcruzsierra]

What's missing? The ability to further tweak the image with effects like halation, glow etc. I want to be able to achieve any look without touching my computer. If they remove or improve the record limits, I'd get one.

[@MatthewDangyou]

Okay that would be pretty sick not gonna lie👀 but you can always use a mist filter too

[@lfcruzsierra]

@@MatthewDangyou Yeah, at least there's a way but can't stop thinking how much better it would've been with an internal highlight diffusion filter like the Ricoh cams.

[@alexmulo]

too expensive for what it offers.

[@MatthewDangyou]

Maybe the price will drop after release🤷🏼‍♂️

[@PPLRRN]

Find me an open gate, full frame, better IBIS, PDAF, 25mp, LUT in body, big battery in this compact body thats brand new and costs less than this.

[@alexmulo]

@@PPLRRN this camera is the S5 ii without many parts. Therefore it should cost less.

[@PPLRRN]

@@alexmulo it does. You probably compared it to a used S5ii, and you know there aint a used S9 yet.