Crime Beat: If Anything Happens To Me - The Ottey Sisters | S1 E8

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UPDATE: Both individuals were up for parole this year in 2021. However, both of their parole hearings appear to be delayed… potentially until 2022. We’re looking into getting more concrete details from the parole board... More to come!

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UPDATE 2024: After 28 years, the killer of the Ottey sisters was granted full parole, according to the Toronto Sun. Read more: torontosun.com/news/local-news/mandel-killer-of-ottey-sisters-granted-full-parole-despite-risk

[@emilywiebel3238]

I give a lot of props to the father who secretly recorded his own son confessing to him and immediately telling the investigators and handing the tape over with his own free will. Some people can be raised in good homes and have amazing parents and still go out commit horrendous crimes.

[@schnee78]

Yes. That´s what I thought too.

[@TP-xy2ms]

Emily, I absolutely agree with your assessment.

[@patriciarowe3431]

I know that is right. I have seen many different types of crimes commited and those which the families knew protected the criminal. GOD WILL BLESS RHAT FATHER. HE DID THE RIGHT THING.

[@sarakhaldi5085]

This is a good parent. I have ALWAYS made it 100% clear to my children, if they ever do anything intentionally to harm another human, I will be on the victims side. No matter how hard it is, I will never condone victimizing or exploitative behavior.

[@cdouthett3151]

WOW

[@kate_1172]

They went to my high school. Every year we’d have assemblies dedicated to them and their mum would always come. We will always remember them ❤️

[@kensmb8668]

Even with such tragedy and heartbreak, their mother is still graceful. Poor lady! My heart goes out to her.

[@HyperfeminineCancer]

kens mb she’s aware she still has a higher power to answer to, such a graceful woman.

[@sandrarice2069]

@Zeljko Trifunovic You are delusional!

[@positivevibes5364]

She breaks my heart

[@bonniestewart2654]

I choose to call her a very strong lady. I'm not sure if I would have her strength if such evil took my daughter from me.

[@amanda-us1rt]

Black women are very graceful I am not black but older ladies are like that

[@sly5722]

Broke my heart when she said she’d never be a grandma. 😭🕊🕊🕊

[@marcief.8165]

That part tore my heart out !!

[@gina8763]

It's about time there's finally an interviewer that has a heart and isn't interrupting the person who is telling his or her story

[@eavymuturuh3717]

Tamaron hall

[@caspercattrell1598]

Avis is an amazing woman. What a wonderful, intelligent, beautiful, and well-spoken woman. She has suffered so much loss, but she speaks so thoughtfully. Bless you angel. May you find peace and closure. Despite the horrible crimes and tragedy that your family has endured, the world is still a good place because of people like you, Avis.

[@katmckeown5982]

I totally agree with you. What an elegant, composed, articulate lady. You can feel the love for her daughters as she talks about them. There's no doubt that Avis is still grieving and I wish that I could just reach my arms through the screen to hug her. However, she has turned her grief into something so precious and positive. Her daughters will be watching over her with pride. The fact that she wrote a book to help others and that she has taken on voluntary work and is helping the community in spite of her grief is testament to her beautiful character. May God bless and protect Avis. RIP to her gorgeous daughters and RIP to the poor Father who lost his life at the hands of these two evil monsters too. May God bless and protect his family too.

[@anazechner5833]

Completely agree. What a lovely lady in every way. I don't think I would hold any composure if that'd happen to me and my children, or father for that matter. RIP beautiful ladies and Mr. Trajceski

[@georgiadn1619]

What a beautiful comment! And yes, Mavis, is such a gorgeous human, a beautiful soul. .......💜

[@samanthasau4086]

Casper Cattrell that was very nice of u I think u r very sweet yourself for saying all those nice things

[@GODBLESSED2959]

Well said. Amen.

[@TJ_Eats]

This interviewer is an asset I tell you. She has the most appropriate demeanor and tact to the most polished mother. Pure dignity and class

[@Silenceisgolden25]

Unreal how graceful the mom is. I can’t even imagine. She amazes me.

[@BidenOwesMeGasMoney]

Jodie Osbourne 💯

[@billiejackson1847]

@@Silenceisgolden25 going 77yy7

[@BeatvWILLIE]

She looks exactly like my grandmother the same hair style everything

[@AP-is5kd]

I agree! A lot of these hosts ask terribly ignorant and insensitive questions. Like rubbing salt in a wound. It's hard to watch. It's nice to see some still show respect and empathy. A gentle approach is most appropriate!

[@jackiet359]

This is the best interviewer I’ve seen on crime shows. She’s professional -- appropriately and sincerely sensitive to those she interviews, and states facts, without the unnecessary flair of drama (often seen from many interviewers) to sensationalize the story.

[@nyxen8712]

*cough* true crime daily *cough*

[@aussiejojo73]

Agree 100%.

[@SuperZytoon]

This interviewer’s face shows the compassion she feels for these poor people who have lost so much.

[@GeLLee]

I felt very sad for their mother. She carries them for 9 months, raised them beautifully and with just a blink of an eye, two beautiful angels are gone 😢 R.I.P

[@ashleynicole178]

The year is coming up for them to be eligible for parole. We can not let this happen.

[@diannebrown6495]

Never them out or they will kill again

[@clairemarie3987]

💯

[@CaliCali2x]

How can I support him not being released write a letter???

[@loyalonespeaks8224]

Rohan must never come out

[@laurenmay2098]

They are dangerous, very dangerous.

[@katferguson]

I ❤️ that the boy’s father not only recorded his talk with his son but immediately told the detective & volunteered the cassette to him. I have a son. I love him to pieces, with all my heart, to the moon and back, etc etc... But I know in my heart I’d turn him in as well 😢

[@DatsexiVAChick]

Me too

[@joannasaadati8810]

Me too. It's our duty to protect our kids but also can't let them hurt others with no consequences.

[@bridgetlee202]

Kat Ferguson amen! A Real father !

[@hillarycolen1163]

It must have killed that father to do the right thing.

[@mefford67]

Kat Ferguson *I would as well, even though it would destroy me...* 💔

[@miliaelainejones2421]

When she said I’ll never be a grandma 😢 who else heart broke 💔

[@4tfbenjiglo63]

Words can't even explain.

[@junerobinson3670]

So sas

[@junerobinson3670]

So sad

[@veramiranda2381]

Same 💔

[@brendalespoir3274]

So sad 💔

[@THutch80]

The father understood his child needed to pay for his crimes! My hat off to him

[@bigvalley4987]

Tasha Hutchison The “Good Father” was unable to live with himself nor his Son. He had the wisdom to know that if he got away with this crime. That he more than likely commit another crime. God Bless this Father soul and give him peace.🙏🏾

[@beautyincorporate868]

My his father has peace... he deserves no parole

[@warmlantern0000]

That's a honest father ! 🙏

[@kimmore1681]

I wouldn’t have told on my child. Sorry

[@THutch80]

Kim More that’s you, and your child would continue committing crimes until someone killed him.

[@Melodious0615]

I know this sounds childish... but I wish all evil people were gone 😭😭😭😭. We would just live in such happiness and love 💕

[@Dezdamoonbear]

Not childish at all, but prophecy. Psalms 37: 9-11

[@latashab-james1495]

Someone would find some way to fuck it up...SMH

[@itsjusme6447]

It all stemmed from the book of Genesis with Adam & Eve. The very first book in the Bible. And the rest is Hx!...

[@magicpotionoflove]

If you allow Jesus Christ to become Lord of your life your wish will one day come true. The Lord is going to destroy ALL EVIL and those who love Him will live in perfect peace!

[@itsjusme6447]

@@magicpotionoflove Amen!!!!!

[@4evermistyblu]

Up for parole in 2021 😳😳 Please don’t let this evil SOB out of jail.

[@Redman092000]

Granted parole as of today and is set to live in a halfway house downtown toronto

[@junglejulia4699]

A mother having to bury both of her children at the same time 😞♥️

[@lavishkartelkosmeticskarte2636]

Yes very sad they should’ve serve life plus 1000 years

[@bigvalley4987]

Lavish Kartel kosmetics Kartel I agree a million + percent.

[@ladyheart308]

Yeah that's painful

[@ms.aquarius4854]

😥😥😥😢😢😢😟💔💔💔💔💔

[@tashabrown8301]

😥😥😥😥

[@Againsttherulescouk]

Avis is Strong, Classy, beautiful, intelligent and dignified lady, this is how a woman should be.. from one mother to another mother, my heart breaks for you. RIP Beautiful Girls

[@rubydawn1]

well said she looks like the kindest woman it breaks my heart to listen to her.

[@fizzedupslade4082]

You are so right.

[@richardsheffield5873]

God bless her... No words for this

[@jhavajoe3792]

It started with her incredible poise. Later, as she gave more info, she revealed she had the full array of emotions of a developed human being. I was moved. To have gone through all if it and expressed it so well . Marianna was no different, no wonder her and Avis bonded. An excellent video of how the surviving families endured so much suffering and expressed it so well, it's one of those videos I won't forget.

[@Zoenewstv]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZnEc32ZnLmBodU Real talk only TAP in ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾

[@emilywiebel3238]

I can’t imagine how this poor woman feels having to relive these tragic events. But I will say I really do like this interviewer. She’s very sympathetic and she’s very respectful with the way she goes about asking questions and moving the conversation. This mother is one of the strongest individuals I’ve ever witnessed.

[@user-rm1mn3ph1p]

Yes, the mother is very eloquent, but they love seeing pain on a Black face.

[@BS-dq1kz]

Emily Wiebel Yes, she is a lovely strong woman it’s obvious. My heart breaks for her. Her words really hit me hard. I can’t imagine. I don’t think I could live if something happened to one of my daughters. Both of my daughters😭 I like this interviewer so much more than Paula Zahn Lol.

[@justice4896]

@@user-rm1mn3ph1p Who is they, that love to see pain on a black face??

[@user-rm1mn3ph1p]

@@justice4896 A hit dog WILL holler.

[@lisaellis2593]

Yes, she is, Godbless her, and heavenly Father put your arms around her, and give her some peace of mind, Amen.

[@eboneep6354]

It ain't nothing but God who has kept this mother all these years.❤❤❤

[@Justchanneling889]

Awwwww.."She'd crunch her bag of chips so it could last longer" That made me cry. Something one of my children would do.

[@deenad3562]

Yes, what a subtle detail of her disciplined personality.

[@dominiquejenkins5495]

Shows just how much attention to detail she paid her daughters

[@vivianwadida3292]

Oh LORD put a hedge of protection around our children I pray. Amen.

[@nurarich4945]

Vivian Wadida ameena ameena

[@sirhenrye.o3275]

In Jesus name amen.

Amen.

[@jenjohnson-wagner6556]

Vivian Wadida AMEN!

[@manfromthepast]

He should've done that before this tragedy happened, he's never there when one needs him.

[@sharronscott1735]

Listen to your kids. When a kid says If Anything Happens ...listen.. revist..find out whats going on!!!!

[@sanboyce]

Exactly. Even if they were distracted at that moment, I am sorry the mother didn't sit down and probe the daughter.

[@tundrawomansays5067]

San_Said_So I’m certain the mom lives with many, many regrets including that one on a daily basis. People get distracted-that’s not indicative of disinterest.

[@kimbooker6404]

Please listen DV is no joke

[@infinitepossibilities356]

If anything happens to me Aura Marie Mendez did it or orchestrated it.

[@buttercupj6208]

TRUTH 👏👏 I wouldn't think twice not only to investigate but to resolve the problem and keep my children safe......

[@snugglepusshercules1441]

The lady who interviews is very tacful and respectful. I love rhat about her.

[@BS-dq1kz]

Snugglepuss Hercules Me too. She’s great!

[@talcareyifill5937]

Snugglepuss Hercules yes she is

[@cynthiaa5110]

Yes

[@DeannaCaven-ty4ek]

I thought she was good too until she had the nerve to ask the mom about forgiveness. That’s so stupid and shameful!

[@miss.bitchswerve6329]

she's canadian, canadians are more smart than usa-ers

[@bestkksser]

Dear Person That's Reading This You May Be Goin Through Something But God Got U He Didn’t Bring You This Far To Quit.We Don’t Know Each Other But I Wish U All The Best In Life 2020 And Beyond.🇧🇸❤️~Marcia~

[@justusfive650]

The mother speaks so elegantly! Lord bless her!

[@dvac48]

Feel so badly for the mom. Such a strong woman. God bless you ma'am

[@dvac48]

@Charles Finnley what are you talking about dumbass? If who was a white man?

[@tundrawomansays5067]

Charles Finnley Knock it off-completely uncalled for and inappropriate.

[@patriciarowe3431]

Yes she is, and on top of that she was the one that found her own babies in a pile of blood. GOD BLESS HER FOREVER. WHAT A BEAUTIFUL LADY. PRAYERS.

[@patriciarowe3431]

@Charles Finnley ,,,, please sir,,, don't!!!!! Race has nothing to do with this. I'm a white woman and I have two babies. They are both in their forties. I'm a mother of only two. I wasn't robbed, or viewed the vicious death of them both. I did not loose them or burry rhem the same day. But I connect with this morher. COLOR OF SKIN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. RACISM IS A SPAWN IDENTITY FROM SATAN THAT HAS CAUSED BILLIONS OF DEATHS ON THIS GOD GIVEN EARTH. SOCIETY AS WE KNOW PREYS ON HATE AND DESTRUCTION. COME OUT OF THAT. IF YOU LOVE LIFE AND YOUR RACE THEN LEAVE THIS KIND OF COMMENT OUT FOR THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE HURTING AND GRIEVING FOR THEIR LOSSES. SHOW RESPECT FOR THIS ISSUE AND KEEP THIS KIND OF COMMENT TO YOURSELF. YESHUA DIED FOR ALL SIR, YOU AND I. HE ONLY WENT TO THE JEWS BUT AFTER HIS RESSURECTION THE APOSTLES WAS SENT TO ALL THE WORLD. THATS WHERE THE NATIONS COME IN. PLEASE FIND YOUR DAVIOR IN SCRIPTURE. HE HAS OPEN ARMS AND HE KNOWS YOU BY NAME. YOU WONT REGRET IT. READ SCRIPTURE. HE'S WAITING FOR YOU!!!!

[@slimchica1]

Patricia Rowe Amen!!!

[@taiwoal]

Women trust your instincts. Don’t get distracted.

[@littlewhitekitty3773]

Thank you for this message. I needed it.

[@positivevibes5364]

Facts

[@lindiwehlatshwayo9664]

My instict has saved from a lot of harm. Thank you for your advice 🌻

[@saywhat8466]

Yes please do. When I do 2nd guess my instinct all hell break loose

[@juanitalove4494]

Please don't get distracted because of emotional attachments.

[@JanekateFitness]

The moment that guy is out, he might go for his dad for recording and telling on him.

[@samina1580]

And probably Marsha's mom too

[@donkykong1823]

Not if I go for THEM first. I'll give them the chair, which is what they should've gotten to begin with.

[@marcief.8165]

That's why they won't be released at least no time soon..

[@queenteireigns6212]

He had the audacity to come to the funeral. SMH. R.I.P God bless the mom

[@nellydavis7645]

That’s what a narcissist does

[@joannasaadati8810]

They often do that, just disgusting 😑

[@lovelyjackson1409]

Never understood why people kill their ex because of a broken heart, just let it go ( life is too short).

[@wintertriggersme6304]

Because they don’t want to see that person with another partner. I’m not justifying it, it’s awful, but that’s the truth

[@katzwhite5962]

Lovely Jackson They kill their ex because they are evil bullies.

[@17Indianrose]

Jail is just a room

[@Navaura]

The hardest thing in the world can be letting go of heartache. Killing is just what some people do thinking it will rid them of that heartache. Im convinced it doesn't.

[@oilyoily2959]

I'm convinced that bad things always happen to good people, the question is why?

[@doggieworld3652]

The pain and tears in mothers eyes just breaks my heart. May her girls rest in peace, and may she have some peace in her soul.

[@zazakytu7124]

The sad thing is that the guys still have a chance at life... they’ll be in their 40s.... while these families will NEVER get their loved ones back

[@naturallydope6971]

Depending on when they started their time they should be getting out pretty soon which they need to get the death penalty if it was in the United States

[@positivevibes5364]

Exactly it should be death or life without any parole

[@squarebear619]

I'd never protect my child if they did something like this. This dad did his best but sometimes these kids choose their own dark paths. I feel sorry for that poor mother.

[@Jujuumobi]

Never, I couldn't for murder and rape and any kind of sexual assault or even being an accessory after the fact.

[@itsjusme6447]

The Mom tells the story of her two smart and beautiful daughters in this story in such a gracious, and vivid, way that it almost makes you feel as if, you were there when it happened. She's a very, calm, soft-spoken, and poised woman. And I'm so sorry for her loss because if it had've been me; I know that I'd probably would have gone crazy?!... "Both of my babies at one time; murdered and stabbed to death?!..." My God????" And for the transit worker who wasn't even scheduled to work that night but did so out of the kindness of his heart?!.. God bless his soul!!!!! WHY DO BAD THINGS ALWAYS HAPPEN TO GOOD PEOPLE.. I OFTEN ASK GOD THIS QUESTION WITH THE HOPES THAT MAYBE ONE DAY HE WILL ANSWER ME..

[@shalandacampbell7314]

I am Jamaican and we are raised to be honest people so I am not surprised that his father turned him in. Let justice be served.

[@conniemitchell3086]

He had the nerve to attend the funeral. Lord knows he wouldn’t make it out if that was my family. He took full advantage of that poor mother and her girls and may they be at peace ✌🏽🙏🏾

[@tammyjordan7248]

That part#

[@adellajohn7101]

after the funeral we held the repass at the school and while we were there someone mention that he was there let me tell you a group of boys took off looking for him but he was long gone

[@tianathompson2725]

😥😭 these demons should serve life in a 3rd world prison. Getting there asses penetrated on a daily 💯😡.

[@shawngordon6626]

All the the words was there when you ladies and gentlemen when you meet someone who too too quite stay by there self get mad with your family and friends run that the devil living in that person that you LORD Jesus for keeping me

[@rubydawn1]

it happens so often I know someone that was murdered by her partner and he went to the funeral home too

[@snugglepusshercules1441]

These men should have gotten 100 years !!! The thought that they can be released ?! No

[@vernamorales2064]

If freed they will kill again !!

[@tianathompson2725]

Exactly 😥😭

[@dellajackson214]

Life!!!!!!it was to easy for them to kill they will kill again,monsters

[@sandrajones4123]

It's sickening that they will be free Next Year and will still be able to live a full life.

[@eastbayromek8613]

Verna Morales should have got the death penalty

[@yvonneb6874]

This is why crime should never be about color or race, but justice for all

[@SuperTruthful]

depends on the crime some are racially motivated.

[@DevonDumpling123]

So agree with you

[@tone7034]

True but BLM is more so about police officers killing innocent black people. Not killings like these. Huge difference!

[@shimeicareaves]

@@tone7034 right

[@lootleo4022]

That isn’t reality (not saying you don’t realize this, I can tell from your statement you do) so we cant treat crime as such. Sometimes murder isn’t plain old murder. I mean in this case it is but in other cases more to the story, all terrible and sad though and all s/b handles in a court of law.

[@Eva_The_Diva]

That poor mother, losing both of her beautiful babies. Absolutely heartbreaking.

[@sheenaalexis8710]

"I'll never be a grandma " Omg I'm balling. And what an amazing one you would of been ♡

[@DawnDiggetyNoDoubt]

Poor mama. I cannot even fathom her pain. Men....you don't own any woman. If you have anger issues go get help. Parents if you see that your sons have anger issues get them help please .

[@BS-dq1kz]

Amber Derion Its very difficult for a mother to even approach and angry son about his issues. They usually lash out at the mother as well. My own brother has major anger issues and when my mom told him he couldn’t hit women, he cursed her and never spoke to her again. That was 8.5 years ago. He called me not long after he and mom got into that argument and I said to him,”Bub, I love you and you can always talk to me but mom was right, you can’t hit women and I can’t put up with you cussing our mother.” That’s all it took and he cussed me too and never spoke to me again either. There’s no reasoning with these types of men who are so angry. My brother has tried his best to keep us from his two children. Thankfully, one of the mothers allows us to see his daughter anyhow. My niece has had cancer twice and suffered lots. I’m so glad her mom lets us see her. She’s here at my house now actually. Drives my brother crazy. The other mom let us see my nephew for awhile but she moved, remarried and she is a different kind of person and we don’t really see him. I love him and wish I could. My brother never sees him either. Anyhow, my brother is an abusive hateful man because my father is. We grew up in a home with lots of violence. My sweet mom got away as fast as she could and never looked back! The damage was already done though and my brother is so much like my dad.

[@startinajackson606]

Yes get help. My God

[@startinajackson606]

@@BS-dq1kz my God, I'm sooooo sorry about your brother, I'm at a loss for words.........

[@katzwhite5962]

@@BS-dq1kz It is so sad that your brother has followed in the path of his father. The vicious cycle continued. It is good that you stood up to your brother and are there for your niece. Keep doing it. If possible find a way to get letters to your nephew. If you can't, write them anyway because one day he will come looking. I'm in my fifties and have just began searching for my father. So hang on in there. Hugs from the UK👍🏿🇬🇧

[@noongourfain]

The abusive man in my life never met his abusive father. His mother had escaped and then discovered she was pregnant. The mother thought she could raise a normal child without him ever knowing his abusive father. Nope . He turned out exactly like his dad, impulsive, narcissistic and violent towards women.

[@robynhumphrey7234]

WHAT THE HELL....THEY ARE SERIAL KILLERS...HOW THE HELL CAN THEY GET PAROLE?????????

[@positivevibes5364]

Its insane

[@Night_893]

It really is insane they should have gotton 100 or so years in jail. Damn or even longer, they don't deserve to be free

[@dalebyron7251]

We have stupid Laws

[@beverlybalius9303]

Robin Humphries Because Life only means 25 years but life and a day means they never get out or eligible for parole,, I heard, I don’t know if thats all states or some

[@Amen.22]

I've watched many crime shows from Canada, many serial killers. They all at the end say life in prison with no chance of parole for 25 years.

[@parrotsitter7916]

I can't believe they got just 25years, they coming out to re-offend. They should have gotten 75 years

[@domk2993]

Shanice chatzianesti smh. Exactly. I’m pissed. That ruined this entire documentary

[@melaniemcphail1735]

Life means life !! for the rest of their lives !!!

[@cindyfitzgerald4500]

They should have got life or death!!!!

[@ud1266]

Take a life then remain in jail for life an that should be under heavy labour and hard conditions

[@naedatanner8832]

@@cindyfitzgerald4500 life in Canada is 25 years, no capital punishment either 🇨🇦✌

[@lovelyrich54]

If my teenage daughter said if anything happens to her, I would've gotten to the bottom of it. No phone, person, knock at the door, anything would've distracted me. PERIOD. RIP baby girls. So heartbreaking 💔

[@bayborn510]

Facts

[@latashab-james1495]

Yeah, thats easy to say until you are in this situation. The mom already knew he had some loose screws before her daughter even said that. But what can you do? Tell him to stay away from your daughter? Nah, that almost 100% ofcthe time does not work with two teens who love each other.

[@lovelyrich54]

@@latashab-james1495 I'm saying I wouldn't have ignored her when she said those heart cringing words, "If anything happens to me". That is a very serious statement coming from a child. I'm saying I listen to my children and know when something isn't right,and when they are crying out for help.

[@lovelyrich54]

@Marie Alphonse Amen Maria...they say the same thing about me hunny and I don't care.I have two boys, two girls.I'm protective of all four.

[@AllanaJewell]

That part was very strange to me too... I thought...ummm...hello? You think I'm going to just let that go??? No. But just a different style of parenting, I guess because there is no doubt she loved those babies but just not confrontational, I guess... So sad...

[@B1TKZH47]

“If I can’t have you, no one can”. That’s not love. That’s raw possessiveness.

[@jenjohnson-wagner6556]

Enough is enough for this poor mom! To lose two daughters is beyond comprehension. How she goes on is remarkable.

[@olivenemitchell9037]

Their cousin Merlene Ottey is a icon here in Jamaica 🇯🇲

[@muvagoddessofearth]

Interesting

[@jabmalassie]

I also remember Milt Ottey, the high jumper. I used to watch him at the Toronto Indoor Games ,

[@mangr5254]

" bronze queen" right?

[@YeEt-fj2gf]

Man gr, What are you getting at? What a petty individual.!

[@kimlawrence3140]

So nuh Jamaican!!?

[@lelemiller5863]

For him to keep appealing and putting Ms. Avis through that is sickening. He murdered her with rage, to the point of him almost decapitating her body. He gone get paroled in 2021. How they allow someone like that to even think about getting out of jail! The justice system sucks. If he gets out,,, he will do it again. He is a cold blooded killer, with no remorse.

[@jitaamesuluma9730]

yes

[@ciku-ciku7194]

Scary and sickening to think about them being out

[@angelabell8725]

I just hope and pray Ms Avis has moved to saftey.

[@eastbayromek8613]

I never heard of a convicted murder being able to appeal over & over like that that’s crazy I thought you get 1 appeal & if you loose than that’s it also why was the girls killed 1st but had to go to court last

[@jessicalopez8353]

They are never getting out

[@trinitymorgan8261]

I love that everybody is recognizing this kind hearted ,sincere Interviewer. God bless her.

[@Jailynlovesosa]

They ruined two families lives. They traumatized a mother because he couldnt take rejection and obsession. They destroyed a family out of cruelty and for money. The most painful thing is Marsha knew she was going to die and knew who it was and told her mother right before it happened💔

[@LETSCREATEMINIATURES]

How can u kill 3 people and be up for parole?

[@joyce2u401]

Liberal countries and politicians do it all the time. Look what is happening now in the United States especially following the George Floyd murder. Liberal politicians, mayors, governors, attorneys, etc allowing some of the individuals with clear criminal intent to face no serious consequences for their actions.

[@colleenklatush3317]

Not justice

[@Caribbeanprincess1]

They kill the innocent and free the guilty. There's an insatiable appetite for blood shed in these countries. Pay close attention

[@LETSCREATEMINIATURES]

Lauren May ?

[@laurenmay2098]

DIY/LETS CREATE throw away the key, lol

[@gdlyf]

Before they even mentioned it I thought to myself, this mother will never be a grandma and the man will never see his daughter's further growth because of this unjust world.

[@terrysmith2682]

They would have been 44 and 41 years old this year 😭😭😭😭 RIP

[@sarsour3225]

Terry Smith Rip😢💐

[@adellajohn7101]

she was murdered august 16 1995 6 days before my birthday and my son was born august 17 1999 i remember her every august she would have put Canada on there no dough about that she was that good in track

[@Msboochie2]

Adella John I have family in and around Scarborough and I remember them talking about these girls and the murder, but this is the first time I am hearing the full story and it is heartbreaking. I bet she would have made Canada proud, here in the states. Both girls seemed to have a bright future, and their mom would have probably been a grandma by now. The thought of that evil person getting parole next year is sickening.

[@MIA68100]

The youngest daughter is the same age as me. Born in 1979😭😭

[@suleykauribe8483]

Terry Smith damn

[@cocoa_bean_queen]

These murderers should not be released, they harbor such blatant disregard for human life. Bless both the Ottey and Trajceski families. 🙏🏾😔

[@felipessunshine]

The interviewer is so compassionate like you can see she's struggling not to cry with the interviewees

[@jennajune2101]

Even after the most tragic event a mother can go through, Avis is full of grace, class, dignity, and just absolute wonder. She is an amazing woman. God bless her & her beautiful daughters 💜💜

[@bonjourtristesse9433]

Avis is an amazing angel of a woman. RIP to her daughters Marsha and Tammy, and to Mr. Trajecski. 😢❤️❤️❤️

[@diamondsummers9869]

thank you for including demitri 😌❤ the comments are all about the mom, but that's selfish: this isn't about them. this is about the ttc worker as well.

[@nadinedockery-green5192]

I really don’t think it’s intentional.

[@starrwright5787]

@@diamondsummers9869 I don't believe people were trying to leave him out. Some could have commented before the part came on about the other murder. I'm sure you haven't read every single comment.

[@bigvalley4987]

Bonjour Tristesse Please Lord give them all peace. Thank you Jesus🙏🏾

[@AA-ek5kz]

That poor mother lost her innocent girls who had so much to live for, what an evil monsters and they evil attended their funerals...just wicked. That vile creature should never be released.

[@camealferguson3580]

My father worked for TTC for 30+ years before retiring. He knew this collector. Worked with him for 9 years. He actually took my dad's train to work the same night he was murdered. It was a sad moment for the TTC community as they were/are very tight knitted. RIP to the lives these two monsters took away from this earth, way too soon.

[@mymommalife8259]

As a mother of daughters, I can’t even imagine this happening. My heart goes out to these families. So sad.

[@maryreynolds5310]

You keep fighting for your girls nomatter what it takes! In a year or less, he can appeal...don’t let him ever win!

[@tianathompson2725]

Exactly 🙏🏼💜

[@nae704]

Preach 🙌🙌🙌

[@PaisleySzuSzu]

The mother and daughters of the victims have such composure and grace. The dad that taped his son was a great man he knew his son was what they said and he probably would not be able to live with himself if he hadn't helped.

[@hotdog_gamer13]

These crime beat documentaries are honestly some of the best. Well done!

[@jodilopez7164]

I agree...could def. Do w/out that horribly distracting music....heart goes out to these families....tragic

[@flesh8595]

“Tammy you called me grandma ... I will never be a grandma” Brought chills up my body

[@navycorpsman9291]

Nothing like watching a Black sister on the track parting the air...sheer elegance 😮😮😮

[@BS-dq1kz]

Navy Corpsman I felt that too watching her. She was stunning out there on that track. Very elegant and fast!

[@heatherbop2946]

I felt the same. Such a skill and she enjoyed running alot of people hate to have to run she did it for sport and was doing what she loved

[@dijaworldworld3895]

Parting the air ..her spirit. that’s beautiful

[@sandrarice2069]

@Zeljko Trifunovic You are delusional!!!

[@sandrarice2069]

What does race have to do with it?

[@melissabell4898]

Just from the 1st few seconds of hearing the Mom talk you can see the pain behind her eyes. I pray for her..so very sad.

[@RGale60]

This mother. Jeez. I can’t imagine anything worse happening to anyone than to come upon your kids after their murder. It makes me want to drive to Canada to be with her and just offer to sit with her. Unimaginable loss. Prayers. 💙🙏🏽

[@FreeRangeChiHuaHuas]

Ahhh thats such a sweet thing to feel and say. Bless you and the girls mum x

[@sarahjustice526]

Rayleen Gale you are so kind.

[@brendasinclair3213]

We can ask Father God to keep her and watch over her and be gracious towards her, And bring peace and comfort, in Jesus name, AMEN! ~~~ This goes for all families.

[@purbashanayak2779]

♥️

[@shonamckenzie7124]

Their mother is such a lovely dignified lady.

[@tiffanyheadley5134]

Never heard this story before it's just terrible how people disregard others lives then want empathy!

[@AnNe-qw2lh]

they should not be paroled

[@Yani.R]

Exactly. Let them die in there. Pure wickedness.

[@yazminembaied5794]

@@Yani.R what of they do it again? Are u kidding me? 😱😱😤😤😥😥😥😥

[@vickie6752]

An Ne Paroled to get out and repeat the crime on someone else. The victims don’t get a second chance why should they? Not fair

[@capricornqueen3139]

@@vickie6752 read it again she said they SHOULD NOT BE PAROLED‼️

[@evelynswinton615]

should have been put to death

[@d.e.w.8676]

The pain of this mother is heartbreaking...nobody deserves this pain.

[@vekiebaking-shelton1452]

Too loose two children at the same time in such a way and to be able to talk about...that's strength. And the other family. Lord, praying for both families

[@donnagpalk912]

I like this female reporter.💗 Showing emotions instead of grinning with rating's. Poor mom💟 RIP😇😇

[@crystallotzer5400]

The father who recorded his own son did not get enough credit.

[@art3misx2so]

I have a huge amount of respect for the father of Kincaid. I cant even imagine how hard that must have been for him, no matter what his son did.

[@sarahjustice526]

Jess T. If I had a son and he did committed suicide ,I would tell on him immediately.

[@julieanneaddison5033]

@@sarahjustice526 so sorry for your loss God bless

[@BS-dq1kz]

Sarah Justice I’m so sorry.

[@lisaellis2593]

Same!

[@juanitalove4494]

Remember God saw it also! And you can't hid from God nor his judgements...you will reap what you sow... no matter who...

[@shortgiraffe6311]

They should have gotten 25 years for each murder. No less.

[@Aedriyuna31]

Short GIraffe they should have got 200 years!!

[@phian2312]

@@Aedriyuna31 or the death penalty

[@laughalittle7802]

couple years for each stab also

[@i_amTHE_raBBit1984]

More like for every stab wound

[@donkykong1823]

They should be tortured until they die of old age.

[@actionjjohnson1385]

WHEN THESE MFS GETS OUT ALL THE FAMILIES & FRIENDS NEED TO BE THERE WAITING ON THEM & GIVE THEM SOME STREET JUSTICE!!😠

[@deborahdavisreyes8589]

Absoutely they don’t deserve life. Murders show get the same justice

[@luciac9123]

Totally agree!!!

[@2wheelerzx7]

I'll be watching for sure. They better hope they stay in

[@coolinwithlaura4114]

Exactly and use the insanity defense

[@camrock6478]

Deport them back to JA and see how long they last

[@TheChoralist]

I can’t imagine these poor girls last moments alive it’s so horrible smh 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@andreaporter7232]

I love how she says her daughter crumbled her chips so they'd last longer I did that to how cute says a lot about her daughter so appreciative cherishing and enjoying each moment something as small as a bag of chips

[@lover5583]

I feel for their mother , it’s so sad that she didn’t get to see her girls grow up . Her babies😪😪😪

[@bridgetrobinson76]

Parents be careful of your kids friends. Evil really does exist. 🙏🏾

[@nickyblackford1462]

I’d be consumed in rage and bitterness. I’ve always wanted a daughter, I think daughters are special I dunno but they are... to lose two in one day is just indescribable, my heart is torn for her. Ms Ottey I don’t have a child as yet and I can’t say I understand your pain but I’m feeling pain and anger and grief. This is unspeakable

[@nickyblackford1462]

Karen Gordon I’m sorry you feel that way but as a woman that never really felt like I was loved by my own mother even tho I’m her only daughter, I endured a lot emotional abuse and physical but the emotional abuse was worse because i find it hard to cope in life and around people, I’m depressed and suffer from anxiety, I never did anything that a normal daughter didn’t do, I’ve never once talked backed, I tried to do everything she told me but it was never good enough, I feel like daughters are special still, not all will turn out great yea but I’d rather have daughters and make them feel special regardless

[@nickyblackford1462]

Karen Gordon 💔that is terrible, a lot of good mothers get treated badly but my hope for you is to live the best life you possibly can right now cause you gave them life and they are living it despite their being ungrateful, so please though it’s painful, for your own sake try and be happy who knows maybe your grandkids will want a relationship with you one day. Life is short, enjoy now, do something you’ve always wanted to do, be spontaneous even, that way you’ll never have any regrets about how you lived your life

[@scopel469]

I have all girls! And it is truly a blessing! My you be blessed with your hearts desire. And FYI my father raised me and my mom was out of the picture, I went the abandonment from her being in and out of my life. But I chose to break those curses and I'm very emotionally active with my girls

[@marg4229]

​@@yoo_hoo_anyone_there I know exactly what you are saying. I also did everything for my children (girl and boy) and was firm but fair as a parent. My daughter left home soon after she graduated school although I made it clear she was welcome to live at home for free so she could save money for her future. Nope - left so quickly the door didn't even hit her in the butt on the way out. Whenever she decided to have a hissy fit when I visited her in her new place, she would start with accusations of how I apparently wronged her. Fortunately I had proof that she was delusional but she never acknowledged that I was right and I knew it would be useless to get her to think about it clearly. My son sided with me telling his sister that he was there too and she was imagining things! I researched a bit about how memory works because I was trying to understand how her attitude came about. After time, we forget some bits in an incident. Every time we try to recall that time, we fill in some extras to make the story make more sense to us. The more you try to recall, the more the story can change. Therefore the memory becomes warped with untruths, but they become adopted as fact. One example was that she got some educational funding (like a scholarship) and the cheques were sent to me. I deposited them in my account and sent my personal cheque to her in the same amount so it was easier for her to cash. Years later she accused me of keeping her scholarship money. Out come my bank statements that show the deposits and my cheques to her with her endorsements on the back. No apology, just silence. We pretend to be comfortable with each other over the phone or the occasional email, but it will be difficult for me to ever say that parenting is easy and is often a thankless job. I was naive enough to think that if I gave my children everything they needed, some of what they wanted, and spent a lot of time with them in reading, playing, travel experiences, and teaching them many things they needed to know as an adult, that my kids would be thankful. Although we have had a few times where they can both spend an evening remembering the good times (when we visit every few years), my daughter will dwell on one or two things where she feels I failed as a parent. All we can do is our best, but it can be devastating when a warped memory sneaks into her mind. So don't beat yourself up over doing the best job you could. The only thing I regret is that she has two sweet sons and not one drama princess daughter! That is probably the only way she would ever understand about how much of a challenge parenting can be.

[@wandag.2073]

Avis reflecting on the fact she'd never be a grandma like her daughter Tammy jokingly called her... Hit my heart hard.

[@Missliaz]

This could’ve been me last Wednesday I’m so thankful to God I’m still here

[@besmajubran5244]

I feel so sad for the victims and their families. Avis seems so kind hearted and gentle. I feel so sorry for their loss. My condolences to Avis ,Marriana and their families. I hope someday they will find peace in their lives.

[@cherylmia]

Oh hell no! Parole should never be granted! That's insane...

[@theresag1969]

Another little boyish acting weak man killer with a pimp walk. But, his father wasn't a weak man, he was a hero.

[@corneliawissing7950]

I admire these heroic parents. They are totally awesome, and are to be admired.

[@BS-dq1kz]

cornelia wissing Yes because it would have to be extremely difficult to turn your own son in! I would do it though.

[@katzwhite5962]

@@BS-dq1kz I would definitely turn my child over to the police if they committed a crime like that. You teach them nothing if you keep your mouth shut.

[@mooretravels4919]

Having a “ chance” at parole doesn’t mean they will get it!! Prayerfully the parole board won’t allow them to be released!

[@shannonhuddleston1282]

I lost my 24 year old daughter last year 7-5-20 to a freak accident I am hurting so extremely bad I can't imagine losing 2 in the same day OMG 😭😭😭

[@decemberdarling6058]

My heart broke a million times for the mother of those two girls 😥💔. When she said she realized she'll never be a grandma 😭😭😭.

[@claudiaalmeida571]

Can't imagine this poor mom pain just terrible, you are so strong God bless you and may your beautiful babies rest in peace ❤️

[@Lulumelon333]

70 downvotes = 70 monsters among us that haven’t been identified yet

[@iyeshad5691]

Sometimes people dislike a video because they are sad about what happened. They dont want to hit like because they interpret it as liking the negative content within, if that makes sense.

[@LoLuvLo]

@@iyeshad5691 I always thought that but never knew or wasn't sure. But It makes a lot of sense

[@testedtried1233]

@@iyeshad5691 ok I can live with that.

[@Lulumelon333]

Iyesha D thank you I never looked at it from that perspective.

[@chrisspearline2942]

Yeah but who likes these stories I don't understand that neither.?

[@meredithheadquist6657]

Why do they receive a 25 year sentence when they handed out death sentences? Unjust!

[@galaxygirl7122]

I love this interviewer. First time I've seen an interviewer on this type of show so emotional about the situation without interrupting and talking rough.

[@SophiaLatim]

Lord, this was so heartbreaking. The selfishness & evilness of peoples hearts. I pray God continues to embrace the families in peace, solace & healing.

[@nenebeckford7857]

❤

[@SelenaDemiMiley1247]

I love how this mother of the twin girls finds some joy in even the littlest habits of her girls.She seems like a very lovely lady ,who loved her girls. I hope she has more joy in her life

[@kiara198923]

Twins? Timestamp?

[@memphismane901omb6]

Not twins 37:22 19yo and 16

[@anacatandbosshog7116]

Talking about her chips habbit? My daughter does the same. To make them last longer. So that hit..

[@kaylamar4032]

I pray for the family’s safety bc next year the murders can get out on parole. God be with them..

[@FaithandNova]

Hopefully they are denied parole

[@MaterialGxrl]

Trust me they will be denied over and over and over they are not getting out!

[@katrinahart1094]

@@MaterialGxrl I hope so!!!!

[@donkykong1823]

They should be tortured until they die of old age.

[@donkykong1823]

@@MaterialGxrl They should be tortured until they die of old age.

[@jasminemayne2013]

The interviewer is so compassionate and caring can we give her some recognition...❤❤❤❤

[@leeggz2008]

I remember this. I used to live in those apartments and also interacted with those monsters. I would never have guessed them at all.

[@sherrys6065]

I hate to admit this but I knew these monsters too😔 We were all only kids, never in a million years would I have thought when I met them that they'd be capable of taking these innocent people's lives💔 But again we were all just kids at the time. RIP beautiful souls, I'm so sorry to everyone who lost loved ones to these horrible human beings.