Crime Beat: The Legacy of Jordan Manners | S1 E7

[@asyd2905]

“Karma is a patient lady and she is my friend.” What an amazing woman! I’m so sorry for your loss, Lorraine.

[@mrs.DamRekaArmstead6039]

Amen

[@andrechristiansen4977]

Absolutely best statement ever, and its right. RIP Jordan, and god bless u Lorraine.

[@nancyfischer4875]

She is here physically but her soul is gone. The pain in her eyes 👀

[@talcareyifill5937]

Nancy Fischer like she have no energy

[@TheCreativeAutistic37]

its very sad whoever did this is a real twisted demonic monster he was such a talented artist he seemed to be a sweet and genuine person as well its sad these kind of people die but the demons of the earth still walk

[@betterwithwinebetterwithwi2359]

Broken hearted

[@fadedmix9650]

How do you not go see a parent after their child is murdered???!? Disgraceful

[@Lynn-mf9mw]

If you don't have answers, you do what.....run. Cowards, this police dept should be ashamed. Not, talking to Mom, absolutely disgraceful. God bless this mother.

[@ladyb9108]

FadedMix That is exactly what I was about to comment. I have literally just seen the part when the so called “lead detective” tries and fails to give a reason why he didn’t go see Jordan’s Mum. He shouldn’t be in the police Force. That so called “detectives” family must so be so ashamed of him. I know I would be

[@myrar373]

FadedMix I agree ☝🏽

[@Billur-vs8ji]

The woman was let down in every way possible. If I was her I would be going MAD LITERALLY absolutely disgraceful!!

[@karentucker2161]

Ikr

[@missmee7210]

What a spit in the face to destroy his memorial after failing him and his mother and the community. Shame on that school and the police that couldn't even take the time to approach and console a grieving mother. Shame on you all. RIP Jordan Manners

[@JoeyvanWyk]

I never comment on videos but this one shocked me to the core. From the very beginning this poor mother was dumped at the wrong hospital and left, not a word said to her, and as for the excuses made by the police chief, you could see he was searching for words and failing miserably, he knew they had messed up. So are they really saying that they never had one person available to attend to this poor mother. Then this mother finds out which hospital to go to....eventually...then she gets there and no one speaks to her or allows her to see her son. Let's not even begin to discuss the lack of investigation. Why were more people not questioned, why has this mother never been visited and kept informed of progress, or rather, the lack of it. Why has that other witness that knows what happened never been questioned. I kept watching, despite my disgust throughout, in the hope that this would be resolved. To add insult to injury, the school digs up his tree and removes his plaque. My heart breaks for this mother.

[@IntellectuallyKurious]

From your post alone I won't be watching any further. May he Rest in eternal peace

[@pachal.7766]

Joey van Wyk how awful 😔I hope she can find peace in her heart and forgiveness to all the useless people involved in her son's investigation! Shame on them!

[@mariastewart9820]

This was such a sad,depressing case ! Wow ! And her family friend that refused to speak up ! How disgusting !

[@kandyclay5472]

This was a sad case and the cops knew that they had messed up this is a horrible place to live she should have sued the school seeing that those boys did not go to the school but they were in her son school. I wonder do they have school camera surveillance

[@sayrin34]

Preach sys preach. Got damn shame!

[@duffers7892]

The police do not come across well. The chief making excuses as to why they never visited the mother is cringeworthy. Shockingly shoddy! The blows just kept coming for that poor lady.

[@ThePHYL]

Duffers. they knew very well what the boys name is, reach in his pocket and take out his wallet, open it up, you know where the place that someone keeps their ID....take it out, look down....bingo there is his name

[@jennysookraj14]

Exactly!not once to visit with her,set her mind at ease..terrible

[@JamesCM86]

It was truly disgusting to listen to.

[@kelvyeong333]

If Jordan had been white then it’d probably be a different story ☹️

[@Emlage]

Exactly an excuse....they wouldn't have had to waste 6 hours with ID'n the victim, if they had allowed the Mother to see HER SON!!

[@katmckeown5982]

This lady has been let down by so many people in so many ways. God help her.

[@babydoll1701]

This is true! I feel that even though she had her kid taken from her. However, this documentary was hard to watch because this mother had no real emotions just anger. Her sons legacy and agreeing to this documentary she should show more of an empathy and just answer questions. Her behavior just showed anger and pretty much a lot of refusal of speaking. The black community has to stop with the code of silence and retaliation of this code of silence for snitching. That has to stop and people need to speak. Even if they do it anonymously this has to stop.

[@sengbonitelitho493]

she was used and her son killed so they could implement their security laws..it's so sad

[@doreenvanlee2424]

Amen.

[@bernielomax4702]

If there's a God then why let it happen in the first place.

[@AA-ek5kz]

This was the most heart wrenching program I ever watched, that beautiful boy died for nothing, got no justice, let down by horrific system and police were a total farce.

[@shellynewton1621]

I agree 100%

[@shannez6282]

he was the sweetest person.

[@reinhardt5405]

This woman died with him when she found out his passing. She's completely destroyed. She's dead, you can see it in her eyes. I feel terribly bad for her yet surprised she has not ended her life due to such depression. She must be strong.

[@kiara198923]

She is very strong! His legacy lives on even now!

[@tradingtruths6897]

She will not kill herself bc she's a Christian and as a Christian, you must put your trust in Him. It's not easy and you may want to die but, you can't.

[@yvettehenderson2739]

Stay strong Queen your young man is your angle watching over your but please remember Almighty is the judge and the jury and he will get the Justice that matter the most so many human are evil and don't care about you are your pain .Mother my heart pains for you and family that lose family member die at the hands of evil.😭😠😘😘 righteous

[@shyrose2466]

Right???

[@scillavanilla5356]

I don’t think she would’ve due to her other children. It’s fucking hard.

[@MAMMP]

Damn when she spoke to the camera about the witness who never came forward was POWERFUL. Karma is very patient, she’ll come knocking eventually.

[@junelee8541]

I just want to hug the mom. This is just so heartbreaking.

[@Shawney517]

There's no greater love than a mother's love. My heart goes out to her..

[@my1stlove130]

The Greatest love I’ve experience cane from Jesus Christ

[@dsharpe7406]

A mother’s love and God’s love are the greatest love to ever exist.

[@fredfletcher9966]

I want Jordan's mother to know that even though I don't know you personally, watching this show made made me cry. I have 2 sons and I live half a world away in western Australia and I kept my boy's art work . Please know that reaching out on this show and telling your story of incredible loss, does reach others. I care. I truly believe your beautiful boy is always with you in spirit. Please be strong for his siblings. You will make him proud.

[@TheKitty6919]

Whoever told her to move on from her child’s passing is heartless u can never move on from losing ur child hell a loved one period...

[@romewithaly6705]

this mom...she's a real hero. she's profound, wise, brave...my heart goes out to her, she's a beautiful human being. With her to guide, Jordan would have grown to be a wonderful member of society.

[@krista3686]

This story is so heartbreaking. How does a mother move on. She’s never had closure.

[@tessarix]

You don't move on. Ever. I know this from my own experience of losing a child from something senseless and mind boggling and the hardest part for me is that he died alone. That just crushes my heart. He was so loved! Just like this young man in the video. RIP

[@luvmifro1003lovesfamily]

@@tessarix My condolences to you

[@coreygee238]

Wow ... the cops never spoke to the mother to get any clues or information about the person... insane

[@kiara198923]

They probably do as they always do with assuming it was gang related.

[@my4daughter]

I feel so sad for the mother. You can tell her pains through her eyes her face and her voice. My friend shot himself a year later after his daughter died from cardiac arrest. It’s not easy to lose a child

[@peachierin]

Really touched my heart that Catherine McDonald kept in contact with the victim’s mother. Thank you for taking on this case in a personal level.

[@johannadayy4770]

That man is making so many pathetic excuses for not having the common decency to go see the mother the day of the murder

[@joydot7620]

you cannot legislate common decency - that is why the visit was his professional remit. toronto police.

[@mitsuomits9077]

If he continued giving reasons of excuses I'm pretty sure he might would've said that he had his period😒😒😒

[@kandyclay5472]

How does this cop sleep at night knowing he treated a person like this

[@91sabrinita]

Everyone failed this woman :(

[@memiann70]

They looked at a black boy and assumed he was in a gang, they looked at a black boy and decided that he had something to do with his own murder, they looked at a black boy and gave themselves a million excuses why they shouldn't bother.

[@tundrawomansays5067]

Testify.

[@ThatGirl-du6qv]

The rambling, obnoxious excuses on why they didn’t go speak to the mother- infuriating!! I want to reach through this screen and throttle him!! 😤🤯😡🤬

[@drewsmoma]

Yeah, that was absurd. He knew they dropped the ball, with that one. 🙏🏽😔🕊

[@fredfletcher9966]

How could the school board have thought it was "okay" to remove a remorial tree in honour of a a student who had been brutally murdered on their grounds!!! I cannot wrap my head around that insensitive and inhumane decision. Something so sacrred and spiritual pulled up after a few years. Disgusting.

[@kingkayy3100]

Exactly 13 years later today and still no justice! Continue To Rest BabyBoy 😇 Ma Keep Fighting For Everything You Deserve

[@diamondstaples2181]

Didn't even go see the mother of the victim and then stands there for 10 min making excuses... people are idiots.

[@andrewleavell5007]

She's a strong woman. No parent especially a mother should have to bury their own child. Prayers and wishes to her continued growth and healing. RIP Jordan Manners

[@JaneSmith0709]

That poor mother has suffered so much. God bless her.

[@nequaishalawrence4624]

When he died and the accusers where found not guilty she died with him you can see the hurt in her eyes

[@hannahhunt7233]

Sickening how ignored this family was through the case and after. Hopefully this episode brings real local issues to light & motivates people to uphold better standards for ALL.

[@Lizzie-h3j]

It's disgraceful that no police spoke to the mother. The mother of a child shot and murdered at school should be the first person the police should speak too. Are the RCMP racist?

[@ashirab1909]

It was Toronto, so the OPP

[@Jaredjmack]

Idk if it was the rcmp involved but ya they’ve been racist to natives and Inuit not new at all

[@rubydawn1]

they were jealous of him because he had so much going for him.

[@shannez6282]

he was SO loved by everyone.

[@queenbulova5682]

They probably think it is gang related so they didn't make an effort to find his killer.

[@AA-ek5kz]

Very sad

[@mariastewart9820]

Thats usually their response,lazy asses !

[@davidgreen5994]

+Queen Bulova But here the problem is not a lack of effort by police, is a lack of solidarity in the community. Witnesses are crucial in solving a case... how exactly you solve that when all those who know something refuse to talk? Everyone is talking about the attitude the police has towards black peoples, but completly ignore the attitude the black peoples have towards the police.

[@cassandrasain28]

David Green shut up! 🤨😑 sounding stupid and shit

[@Cjsoc]

Another presumptive statement

[@roshanicrystal]

Karma will come knockin 🙏🏽

[@chellebrooks1945]

Amen so true you're exactly right

[@Divinechild03]

This Poor kid went to school to get an education and was shot down for no reason. He did nothing wrong, this hurts to watch this!!!

[@Sara_Hendrix]

The pain in her eye's and her voice is just raw! It breaks my heart! She was let down by everyone!!

[@lilianakrause8697]

I can only imagine the pain of this mother, just by looking into her eyes

[@suzystone244]

This case is a hemorrhage of injustice. RIP Jordan. GOD has his beautiful mom's back❤

[@junegarnett4983]

Her quiet dignity and sorrow has moved me more than I thought possible. God's Grace be with you.

[@bellefabulous4274]

The "problem" of being black is very real people, Add not being wealthy to that. SMH.

[@AngelaSmith-er7qb]

Just being black is enough

[@Billur-vs8ji]

John Jones I agree with most of what you said but I do believe things are changing but yes I do believe the colour of your skin or where your from makes a difference I’m Turkish Cypriot and I am sometimes treated differently. And. KNOW I would be treated different if I didn’t look the way I do in certain situations. Just wanted to point that out 🙄🙄😂🙏🏻

[@jessicajean6376]

@@johnjones6049 you will never ever actually be able to understand what it means to be black.. it's quite sad you think like this I'll pray for you.

[@coreymccue2912]

Im not black, but i agree, its not right how racism is still so alive today. We live in an ugly world.

[@DB-ed6si]

@@johnjones6049 Hush🤫!

[@joyrichardson9794]

Her pain is heartbreaking 💔 I can’t even imagine 💔 praying for justice

[@almesticared850]

Damn Canada!! I would never have expected this out of you guys!! Never spoke with the mother at all, isn't that step 1 in the investigation. See if he had anyone that wanted to do any harm. Didn't really investigate it either. Then destroyed the poor boys memorial and tried to lie about it. I'm not saying we're any better, but we would of spoke to the mother and kept the memorial. If we did get rid of it to build a park, we would of named the park after him. IJS.

[@cayk9444]

This is the same canada that has an extensive history of covering up indiginous deaths, prostitute deaths, over policing racialized groups, subtle racism, blatant racism (60s scoop, africville, the treatment of japanese canadians) ,had residential schools until 1996... it is super sad but not all that surprising, we have issues too here

[@YouGotThis444]

I feel so bad for her...!😢 Heavenly father, may justice be served in this case. In Jesus name, I pray amen!

[@blessedlady7557]

You speak to the child’s legal guardian ( FIRST)with compassion and respect...give your condolences...you tell them what you know and keep them posted. You just don’t ignore ..🙄🙄

[@efratcybulkiewicz5897]

This case broke my heart in a thousand pieces ... to see this mother, completely exhausted, disappointed before a system that basically turned its back on her. It is simply a nightmare that has no end. RIP Jordan. Much love all the way from Italy.

[@stephanikomasara5793]

Ur telling me this school had no cameras...and no witnesses...im ary these are kids u as parents ask ur kids u make them answer u make them go to police u make them do the right thing PERIOD. THIS JUST IS BAFFLING... ITA 2007 NOT 1967 THERES A WAY TO GWT THE ANSWERS THIS MOM NEEDS AND DESERVES!

[@cokemorgan7674]

Right sounds fishy how nobody seen nothing

[@MariahGeri]

I don’t know why I put myself through this stress watching these videos. Honestly my heart goes out to the ones going through all this pain. 😭

[@ms.prettygirl712]

If i were her i would try to sue the media and police department for discrimination.

[@briefthings]

Why the media? They were the ones actually giving her a platform to speak up

[@netquan1617]

Very sad! I will never forget this. Watching her on the news when she collapsed was so hard because that pain.... You just feel it!!!

[@joycemiyow4158]

Imagine being a sole witness and not come forward. "Supposed to be a family friends" that's the worst part. You are no family to a family you betrayed.

[@wadek798]

I can't believe this! What kind of police do they have in Toronto? This is madness

[@kowsee]

As a mom of four kids myself, watching this just breaks me. My babies may be 9 and under, but if I was treated the way this mom was....I probably would not be as strong as her. I wish I could go through the screen and just hug her, the pain is real and her son will never be forgotten❤️ Rest In Peace handsome young man ❤️ Jordan Manners...

[@rhondaleighshelly9227]

Continued prayers 🙏for this loving supportive mother and Justice for her beautiful sweet innocent Jordan . The world has lost a creative , kind loving young boy . The heavens have gained a angel ♥️

[@btccrypto708]

The pain in this woman's eyes is unbearable, her son killed whilst at school and it remains unsolved?! Guns in schools, never heard of such thing in the UK. Someone, somewhere knows what happened. The school removing his tree and plaque, horrendous behavior. God bless this woman and her family and may the killer(s) NEVER rest in peace

[@itismeIamher]

I love how this channel tell the story of the victim and not the perpetrator!

[@chryzlove7436]

I cant seem to believe these tragedy is unsolved. What about the DNA, witnesses and all.cameras. it feels like the life of that boy is obsolete.

[@RGale60]

It’s like the young men who did it have threatened the witnesses completely.

[@kandyclay5472]

They really dropped the ball with this case

[@tundrawomansays5067]

As long as his mom and those who love him are still alive, that boy’s life has meaning and will never be obsolete. *This case is utterly despicable in every possible manner, not the least of which is “professional” blaming the victim.*

[@davidgreen5994]

+chryz love The witnesses are refusing to snitch, the cameras obviously don't exist, I mean it happened in the bathroom, so of course there is no camera there, the school is more interested in it's prestige, while the most crucial evidence - gunpowder residue on a on-scene witness was ignore ''because they didn't read his rights''....

[@amandas.7143]

these stories are chilling!! this is the first one where the comments are actually on!!!

[@sexiimamiana9548]

I was thinking the same thing I found it very odd.

[@tashiaredd3421]

I think it’s cause the other cases were about underage children. Even though Jordan was underage as well. It’s still very baffling why the comments for his story are on.

[@cayk9444]

Yeah considering he was underage it is interesting , maybe it depends on the content of what is being said and as soon as it gets derogatory for a minor they turn them off(the comments seem very positive)

[@madiicenters41]

This family still needs justice. This is sickening.

[@RGale60]

This mother is broken. Just a senseless tragedy. My heart goes out to her and her family. 💙

[@mothermayi9545]

As if the fact that this mother was treated so poorly didn’t make the racism here obvious, the “black, white and purple” comment sure did. Disgusting. This poor mother!

[@kiara198923]

Exactly!

[@cjj140]

The lack of respect and dignity given to this mom is inexcusable. I really hate to second guess law enforcement but she should have been addressed immediately by someone from the department. What a strong lady, her son would be so proud of her for making the world a better place.

[@PurrsAlot]

Crime Beat is my new favourite show. So well done.

[@shellynewton1621]

I saw this case for the first time this morning. ive never cried so hard for a mother and the love for her child. rest in peace young man.

[@Leira6267]

This was a gut wrenching, painful and frustrating to watch. I hope his killers are being haunted by what they did to that boy.

[@MichelleIbarraMHAEdD]

I can't even imagine the mother's pain and shattered heart. As a mother and grandmother myself, this is my worst nightmare. Sending prayers for mama and the family, and everyone affected. 💜💜💜

[@darceljaggernauth95]

I admire her strength....I pray that God gives her additional strength n support n comfort.

[@kflett81]

She was let down in so many ways by so many people

[@freenetflix8987]

Rip Jordan. Never forgotten. Always praying for ur family. He was a good kid he didn’t deserve this.

[@autumnrayn390]

KARMA is very real!!! Everybody that failed her got it coming!!! RIP J👼🏼👼🏼👼🏽👼🏽

[@jaylenmoore4846]

How you keep going? By the grace of God... Yes... I felt that.. Even thru all the grieving she still has faith... May he rest in peace and may God continue to strengthen you...

[@jenniferatwood567]

I have one son...my heart goes out to this mother 💜💜💜💜💜

[@ei7388]

And to the suspects, how often do y’all just roam the halls of schools you don’t attend? The suspects expect the public to believe they went into the school, called him away from the gymnasium, and into the bathroom to do what? Just chill and play with the gun?! How did they know where’d he’d be at that time? I’ll tell you how “someone inside told them and led them to him and they targeted him to kill him” not an accident. Investigate the “hall monitor” too! SMH 🤦🏽‍♀️ Not even a manslaughter conviction. They admitted to having the gun that killed him!

[@anitarobinson2397]

Jealousy is dangerous

[@jroeglin0729]

I have watched a lot of tragic stories about moms and dads who have lost children to violence. They all break my heart but this mom, Jordan's mom, will stay with me forever.

[@annettewoolley745]

My heart is broken for Jordan's sweet mother who has such a broken heart on so many leavels, I send a hug and kiss to her and my prayers go out to all mothers feeling that kind of hurt, God Bless All of them..

[@cjcummins519]

That is disgusting how they treated this lady and in Canada !! Shame on all those cops and school board prix!!

[@eileenconnor08]

That poor mother was failed by every service & committee, the education board, even failed her by taking away Jordan's tree & plaque , even tho they gave him another tree & plaque, it doesn't matter, the damage is done!! This is atrocious!!🙄😏🤬🤬🤬

[@therealmereal2642]

Only because she is black and its solo unfair god make us who we are she was treated so unfair

[@Jean-gf3fi]

my heart bleeds for you. Having recently experienced a loss, I realize that it NEVER goes away.....................I'm glad they replaced the memorial to your son

[@magpie8600]

"it's a hard conversation to be a part of when we don't have answers for the family" what BS. how do you think the family feels to have the cops avoid them when their family member had DIED. Shameful.

[@flowwithvince]

Catherine is an incredible reporter. She is sensible and respectful. Great job, as usual, Catherine!

[@arithawilliams2109]

He would have celebrated his birthday yesterday, such a tragedy. RIP JORDAN 🕊

[@christinajdixon8263]

I'm glad I found this channel, I'm hooked I have ot felt this bad in a while especially watching the final homecoming of lucas strasser-hird

[@moonlightmelodrama]

14:00 Lead detective says he didn't speak to mother directly. Inexcusable. Because if there, for instance, had been death threats. Her other children could have been at risk.

[@ginakaur9159]

This is just so wrong and so unfair my heart goes out to this poor woman. As if it wasn’t enough that her son died they took everything away, and replaced it with a “new” one. I would be devastated.

[@mavisjones9391]

Poor momma, what a strong beautiful woman. RIP baby boy 🙏🏻💕JM💪🏼

[@sharonhoward8191]

This is incredible that the Police Dept didn't go speak with the mother of this child , no reassurance that this will be solved can't help but wonder if it was because he was Black

[@chrisabshire82]

You can't help but wonder ?? U kidding right? Don't be so naive. Being black is exactly the reason

[@Snellsz]

I'm sorry this happened to you Jordan, I trust that the truth will be revealed soon! You will not die in vain !!

[@crystalyarbrough9649]

I CAN NOT believe the school did that w/ the tree. This is such a heartbreaking story.

[@PrettyWhenICry83]

I hate stories like this, where no justice is served..that is one strong woman.

[@Prettyluhyea]

It can be the number one best school but bad people are everywhere.

[@cayk9444]

To be honest, that school had a brutal reputation toronto-wide (i dont know about now but I was a teen in that era), not that it is an justification in any way for what happened, but their perception sn't exactly how the rest of Toronto saw the school, maybe for the area it was a better choice though than the others. But it's true, violence can happen at literally any schools anyways.

[@misscynthia32]

That is the worst call a mother can receive. Two yrs ago I received news my baby boy has died. Five days ago my sister and I received a call her son has been shot. My baby is fighting for his life as I’m typing this comment. My heart and prayers goes out to this beautiful mother.

[@famemangaming3716]

Jealousy played a huge part

[@misha9856]

It definitely did

[@highland_persuasion]

Lorraine's chill demeanor is remarkable. All of that hurt raging under that calm, collected exterior. She's such a strong woman who exemplifies that motherhood is a superpower.

[@HansumTrini]

One of the socalled "Lead" detectives said he didn't speak to the mother concerning her son because "when you dont have answers to provide a family, its a terrible conversation to be able to be a part of..." VERY UNPROFESSIONAL!!!

[@bigmiim8584]

At least he said it but I feel you

[@luanne5926]

Keep these shows coming. Thank you!

[@melissagood5139]

I remember this day like it was yesterday... so sad

[@itdseizing3170]

Melissa Good same I was 6 years old when this happen I remember my grandmother getting a call from a friend and we sat watching the news. I’m 19 now n watching this made me cry cause I remember this

[@4tfbenjiglo63]

Thats sad. Smh

[@joyceboyd23boyd87]

@@itdseizing3170 THANK YOU ! I THOUGHT THIS WAS RECENT BUT CHRIST IS THE ANSWER TO EVERY LAST PROBLEM ON EARTH. HE IS ANGRY AND HAS MADE US PUT ON MASK TO COVER OUR BREATHING. HE IS NOT PLAYING WITH US. PRAY TO HIM WHILE WE HAVE A CHANCE.

[@eightfigs3508]

You went to school with him?

[@kaneshiacarylhinoguin9230]

When you hear the reporter's voice starting to crack down, paused a little, closed her eyes, you know that's how deep her pain is. 💔

[@Kylieannn91]

I love this mother. What a beautiful beautiful person. My heart breaks for her. I pray God will give her comfort. Bless Jordan’s mum xx

[@skylinschnell5058]

So every other episode the police were behind the families and very interactive with them. But now theyre sketchy and let the killers walk free?? They didn’t do what they were supposed to do.... his mother and family don’t get to get their closure she’s visibly hurting and they don’t care this is awful.

[@lexiaaforever437]

So they just never going to find his killer . 😔

[@felipessunshine]

The way she paused before she repeated that she hasn't spoken to any policemen (or rather that they haven't spoken to her)... Man.

[@rachealsilburn901]

I’m only a little over 6 min in and my heart is full of sorrow for his mom.