Crime Beat: Terror in the Playground | S4 E21

[@7777VANITY]

The sentences were a disgusting joke. But that's Criminal Justice in Canada for you. This Justice system is TRASH

[@daynalynnxo]

🙌

[@Thewitchinthewillow]

At this point in Canada, it should be civilian punishment, since our justice system is a complete joke. What will the civilians get for taking justice into their own hands? Probably a worse sentence than the original offenders. The Canadian justice system needs to do better! 😤

[@Mjj633]

I agree! I live in Canada, and they need to bring back the death penalty.

[@daylevasconcelles645]

Tredeau has made our system a joke so if you harm my child you die wont even call the police why bother they cant do anything

[@glad6054]

I think criminals in Canada know the sentences are never that serious.

[@stevemartin6144]

He showed deep remorse. What sucker believes that? It should be life without parole. Later a father.....what a hypocrite!

[@daphnedevine]

A lifetime weapons ban. Believe that? Right because those guns he had WERE legal! LoL As if thugs give 2 $h1t$. I'm with you 100%. I think we need to get back to people getting what they give. Full stop.

[@Roy-w2o3f]

​@@daphnedevine,he will be back in society to repeat his actions and illegally carry guns...Canada justice system is a disgrace...

[@luckystar3040]

Oh there lives truly matter.

[@ariannegagnon3738]

For this mother to even be able to do this interview is crazy...wow..the strength it just have taken to go through aaaaall that... As a mom myself, i can't begin to imagine... I'll hug my boy a little tighter and a little longer today

[@spacedout3233]

Maybe if these fine young gentleman were at work that day, they wouldn't have the time for this activity

[@nicolerose7639]

Who works in Canada?

[@shannonricketts4628]

Young Gentleman???...You mean vulgar murderers

[@nadiabrowne1068]

They should of gotten life in prison

[@sharonbrown6595]

I think they should get the death penalty no appeals just get rid of them, to do this to innocent kids is just not acceptable at all in Canada

[@courtneymyers2847]

​@@sharonbrown6595agreed

[@sarahmyob6862]

SHAME ON THE COURTS WHO HAND DOWN SUCH DISPROPORTIONATE SENTENCES FOR THE MOST VILE OFFENDERS WITHIN OUR BOADERS!! They CAN change laws when it serves them, but changing these sided sentencing for violent offenders and murderers, never happens. Like Nobody thought to protest for better laws and stiff sentencing to send a message to this s c u m that they won't get away with it! But time and time again the justice system spits on survivors and their loved ones, while protecting the rights of unmerciful thugs. Sending the message to these violent offenders that it's Ok, because the courts have your back! Why do we continually show mercy to the unmerciful? Their deep remorse is between them and God. It should have NO BEARING on the sentence they receive in our courts!

[@sarahmyob6862]

@@sharonbrown6595 Sharon Yes!! We definitely don't need people like this in our beautiful multicultural communities! These people are making Canada 3rd world. Children at the playground have the right to be safe!!

[@daynalynnxo]

Death penalty would be best. They don’t deserve their lives at all

[@gonefishing167]

That man’s ‘apology’ was b……t! If he was truly sorry it wouldn’t have taken two years to catch him! Dear little girls and their mum. 🙏🙏🙏👵🇦🇺

[@edithmahoney9094]

WoW ...10 and 13 years ...what a joke ..these guys will be back on tne streets long before they serve half that sentence...

[@stevemartin6144]

Yes, both should have been convicted of at LEAST attempted murder.

[@sharonbrown6595]

That’s Canada for you we have no justice system at all.

[@katedavey2045]

Bad company..addiction or no addiction..FIRING INSIDE A CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND..then laughing in the elevator and hanging out at STARBUCKS..KATE

[@gingersnapped5235]

So glad the two little INNOCENT girls survived. What a thing to remember as a child, poor little things. Hope the scum responsible run into KARMA one of these days, she's always near.

[@curiouslyme524]

These scumbags should've been charged with attempted murder. Their sentences are too light. Sadly, Canadian justice at play. Thank God the children survived & are recovering physically & emotionally! God bless the investigating police officers!

[@brianmacpherson4913]

Agreed about the charges. Something tells me there was likely a plea bargain in play.

[@curiouslyme524]

@@brianmacpherson4913 Yes, you're right.

[@cindyrussell1581]

What kind of a coward would do this to innocent children playing in a park. Yr nothing but a scumbag.

[@nyk3334]

The usual suspects.

[@Rich-km7pr]

A guy with bad aim.

[@julianarosario2424]

Ptsd is something so crippling. Those poor kids and their mother

[@reshadromeoziauddin8772]

This the difference between the Canadian and US justice system. Slap on the wrist here , in states they'd be doing life . We as a country need to do better and push for tougher laws for criminals . Especially repeat offenders...

[@leaharchambault5796]

you're joking right? The US has mass shootings on an almost daily basis because it's so easy to get a gun there. Longer sentences have been shown to have ZERO effect as a deterant. It may make you feel good to lock them up and throw away the key, but it does not deter others from shooting each other up. Longer sentences do not deter others. FACT. You're about a zillion times safer here in Canada, if just because we have better gun laws and fewer guns. Read some research, it's not about punishing criminals HARDER, that makes ZERO difference- it's about preventing people from having guns in the first place and community support and investment to prevent the social circumstances that allow crime to fester.

[@davidc3839]

America has more wrongful convictions because they rely on the Red technique. Plus, they have ridiculously long sentences for nonviolent offenses. Many people are doing life without parole for having the audacity to go to trial and not take a plea deal. The US has 20% of the world's prison population. yet only 2.5% of the world's population. Despite this, they still have a murder and crime rate far exceeding Canada's or any of its 22 peer countries.

[@Todaysempire]

"a lifetime weapons ban" Yah cause these scumbags abide by firearm laws.

[@RGP1025]

lol Exactly, They didn't get those guns the legal way to begin with.

[@mtunguyaz5057]

They got off easy, with a slap on wrist.

[@thimashiangel3026]

Thank God l am not in canada .. justice system is a joke

[@Tinthia82]

I'm so glad we have strict gun laws. This was just horrible.

[@barbatkinson5822]

The sentencing is an insult to the police and prosecutors and above all the victims and families. As Canadian I say shame, shame, shame.

[@carinaejag]

To shoot into a playground is an act of terror. Should be minimum 20 years in prison.

[@MissBossBabe21]

I’m crying listening to this mama 😢I can’t even imagine it heart breaking

[@Only-interested-in-the-truth]

Sorry but people need to stop supporting hip hop/ rap culture that normalizes this conduct. It glorifies and normalizes this behavior and our youth are getting brainwashed in to thinking acting like this is normal.

[@ChantalsCritters]

Our justice system is a joke. They need more than a slap on the wrist. All those kids will forever be affected. They make things so hard for legal gun owners. Do you think they owned the guns they used.....they did not even own the dam car.

[@julesmisty]

Total bs. I watched this case unfold when it happened. I was raised in Scarborough, so was my daughter for her early years. I never knew POS like this. The terror of that day left a small community with PTSD. These guys at least should have been charged with attempted murder. These guys didn't care that kids could die. What a waste of oxygen. Stop making plea deals with scum that try to kill kids. How can they ever feel safe when they will be released very soon. All the cops who worked this case also deserve more.

[@iRon.x]

Canadian justice system need to change. Too little as sentencing for gruesome crimes

[@katedavey2045]

All the expenses..trauma and pain they caused.

[@yukiefromoz2573]

Put steel fences around playgrounds. We don't have gun violence here in Australia but most playgrounds have fences around them. It would help keep unnecessary ppl out of that area and maybe kids may feel safer. And any suspicious looking ppl in that vicinity would stand out.

[@pamelahoberg1800]

That is the most stupid thing I have heard to put steal fences around a play ground...it's for playing not locking up like they are in prison. Their gun laws need to change and the justice system overhauled and also society need to change as well. We are living in a disgusting world at the moment.

[@annalisavajda252]

Well looking at the terror at the Duke story that guy had just been out of prison a few months before he opened fire at the bar too after shooting at a public park so people can assume they get out and may reoffend. If they violate court orders or probation police need to be on them immediately not just hope for the best.

[@janewebster3663]

Does he think he can sing/rap? 🤣🤣

[@Su-mx7ix]

“They opened fire at a playground, they clearly do not care about public safety” This just in: incredible criminology revelation from Canada - criminals do not care about people’s wellbeing, wow! We would have never guessed. Brilliant! Lot of geniuses up there.

[@therealbenjaminfranklin]

The Canadian justice system is an absolute joke, those sentences were beyond infuriating. No wonder crime is up in this country

[@Dexter037S4]

Yeah, up by 1% and still 50% lower than 80s levels

[@therealbenjaminfranklin]

@@Dexter037S4 The 80’s was the 80’s, but I am worried about right now, if we are still comparing crime now to the 80’s, that is enough proof we are in a regressive society, things need to change

[@Dexter037S4]

@@therealbenjaminfranklin Much of the crime we have now as well too, is white collar crime, not violent crime. Fact of the matter is, much of the crimes now, are being committed by CEOs instead of the typical demographics.

[@crysdawn6608]

💕 here for this. ☝️🙌

[@denisemond1882]

Unbelievable

[@The66Leadfoot]

This is exactly when Toronto became "like Chicago".

[@staceyw.6608]

I cant believe how gentle the sentences are in canada. I keep seeing more of these cases and the criminals get only a slap on the wrist.

[@nicoleselsky7273]

We do not have a justice system in Canada. That would inquire that justice is served and it NEVER is

[@micheleschultz4448]

Good on you mum. Keep going for the safety of children. Must be our priority.

[@johnlongbranch8772]

Wondering why people take justice into their own hands

[@wordmoment]

chasing some one for two years for a 13 years sentence what a joke.

[@travisdecheno5670]

T'Quan lmao

[@margoumbach5824]

What kind of monsters do this.

[@hocuspocus8433]

That's the most horrible thing I have ever watched, and i'm an avid crime podcast fan

[@tavasikachabvonga5026]

The sentences are a joke!

[@susandevoe3524]

There needs to be a small structure built in every park, open-sided, where kids know they can run to, in case of peril. Maybe then they won't be so afraid to go play in the park.

[@jackiemartial91]

No enough years!

[@pokerladyhoule9710]

THUMBS DOWN FOR THE CANADIAN JUSTICE SYSTEM !

[@amyjojinkerson-b6o]

that RAP music is causing all kinds of problems

[@nanaopoku1124]

If these guys where in america they would have got football numbers the Canadian jurisdiction is very leaneate even life in prison in canada is not really life cause Thay can get out after serving 25 years

[@katedavey2045]

Wow..what an ENDING..WHAT THE Children are already ENDURING.

[@F.H.]

I understand the mom was in heartwrenching pain..but i dont get y she called the intended victim a 'coward' for running when he heard the gunshots.

[@rosemary12385]

God rest the ZGVM... May his soul R.E. ... He passed last week.

[@Watts378]

All that campaigning and show for 13 years. lol what a joke.

[@vanessamansfield4252]

I'm stuttering & just can't or don't understand . . . This is old , just in my feed. Rats belong under ground .

[@8surroundsme-rf6zz]

Go read a book. Learn something goofy

[@janewebster3663]

Close the gun factories down and don’t sell them in shops else what do you expect?

[@Yoshyoshbgosh]

Ok but it's always going to be smuggled anytime anywhere.

[@shereeny7775]

This is extremely vicious and callous.

[@thimashiangel3026]

Rodents! Indeed

[@Liliarthan]

How do you laugh right after the incident, then evade capture instead of handing himself in, and claim remorse? Remorse shouldn’t equal a reduced sentence. Who cares!? Remorse doesn’t bring back the dead. Remorse doesn’t undo trauma to all the victims involved. You can stick your remorse where you kept your humanity.

[@samrayer2517]

I never knew Canada was like this.

[@valeriemcelree4427]

it seems that doing the crime and then just saying sorry has some impact....sad....its easy to say sorry and mean nothing,,,,,what was the strong message. Life without parole would have been a strong message.

[@bradvp4339]

Canada is way to progressive, are they even worried about rehabilitating these perpetrators, or even punishment

[@barbatkinson5822]

Successful? Change the COLOR of the park ! OMG what a joke.

[@nyk3334]

I’m gonna solve this. 7.5% of the Toronto population.

[@lg2525]

Only 13yrs, if it was a USA judge he would hv got 60yrs.............. Canadian judicial system sure needs to be amended.

[@mdcs1992]

Only 22 minutes in and I can't stop laughing!!!!

[@angelabroman18]

STOP CALLING IT "GUN" VIOLENCE! It's simply VIOLENCE. Whether its a gun, knife, gasoline, vehicle, bat, or a freaking pencil it has NOTHING to do with the weapon of choice but EVERYTHING to do with the violent idividual or individuals with the weapon!

[@katedavey2045]

Well at least they all pleaded guilty..hopefully this event will help them to change with GOD'S HELP.

[@Sharon-qo3wy]

So sad , Evil people ,

[@Atite_Lometen]

Funny how the mom blames the intended target instead of the shooters.

[@mthomas1443]

You just wanted to find a negative thing to say about her. If you listened to that part WITHOUT bias, she was mad because she knows the target. She literally said I’m upset he ran passed her girls (he knows) who were hurt. Use your listening comprehension skills if you have any.

[@ayiti4009]

@@mthomas1443 exactly💯

[@HAVEandIDEA]

Free tg

[@aprilfarand7865]

Gf

[@christinemelvin3483]

THE REASOMS JUST LIKE EARTH WIND AN FIRE DESIORE SAY ITS WAS JUST A THANG WHY? WE ;LL NEVER KNOW FIR ANYONE TO KNOW OK ? BYUEEE

[@stevemartin6144]

Just BAN rap. A genre of no talent and no singing. ANYONE can talk through bad music. It is pointless and creates unrest and evil. It makes creeps look like tough guy heroes.

[@daphnedevine]

I'm sorry Steve. Normally this Nona would agree with every word you typed but since I ❤ Tom MacDonald, I can't agree. I'll make u a deal. Have a listen to ANY 1 of his songs (he's 🇨🇦!) , and if you find your description suits his rap, OR, how abt, if U can FIND 1 of his songs that fit your description here (yes, he's a rap artist) I'll not only agree but apologize on my knees with 1000 pardons! He's easy to find.just type his name in Y.T search bar. He has no label, but holds many #1's on music BillBoards! Cheerz Steve!

[@courtneymyers2847]

Some people are just 💩....music genres aside

[@TheBasedCanadian]

As someone who grew up on rap I can say you're right.

[@jenniferclark9367]

I did not know Tom Macdonald was Canadian 👍

[@LIFERSCANADA]

I love rap, drill, 90s, all of it, but I can say it’s definitely say some is very demonic and I do believe it can influence people. I don’t think rap has anything to do with this though, these guys are straight sociopath scums.

[@c.o3301]

I’m surprised little children as young as 5 were allowed to play by themselves on the playground in such a crappy and dangerous neighbourhood. The mother being there in this instance wouldn’t have prevented the incident but the fact they live in that sort of environment should make for tighter supervision I would think.

[@deadweight6760]

Top gunna

[@Rich-km7pr]

AKA the yute glizzy bopper

[@hittingdasauce]

​@Rich-km7pr that track was 🔥

[@stevemartin6144]

Blue slides matter!

[@trixie2675]

Omg are we becoming Americans? We are better than that. Get help if you are mean like this. It’s not normal.

[@grossearwax3777]

Crime beat has great stories. But it always looks cheap. why is that?

[@vikaz3408]

What do you mean by looks cheap? Are you after looks or after stories? 🙄

[@grossearwax3777]

@@vikaz3408 well its looks like a news story rather than a high quality doc you see on netflix. Even 60mins looks better. It has alot to do with the lighting the DOP's do and they are shooting at 30fps (while 23.98 more filmic). The colour correction is also bad, especially on Mark Sandurs. They just need to give this show a bit of style.

[@stevemartin6144]

JERK!

[@curiouslyme524]

That's ridiculous. The videos are great. I have no problems with them.

[@allegedlyandfacts]

Don’t watch jerk

[@walcoman]

Dear God, EIGHT CHILDREN?

[@alanchalkley565]

Why are Canadians so weak. I have watched so many of these Crime Beat programmes and I cannot believe just how your Justice system gives such pathetic sentences to guilty criminals. Put them away and never let them out. When will you learn? Weakness encourages contempt! Grow up and challenge your judicial system!

[@Eijimiji]

detective brocoli

[@stuartgross462]

those are not 'harsh consequences' for this behaviour. the mother is not a bright woman.

[@wholly88]

She not bright at all. What crime beat didn't report in the story is that one of her man was the target and that is why she knew the person involved. She also didn't "work" from home, she didn't work at all. Unfortunately women like this insist on procreating with pookies and Ray Ray's who are involved in gun and drug activiites and endanger their offsprings. The convicted ones likely grew up with Mother's like her.