Cringe | ContraPoints

[@ContraPoints]

I have posted cringe.

[@matheusmoreira9951]

DELETE THIS, IT'S CRINGE!!! LOL

[@jaydead64]

Thank you

[@elliottwatt5297]

ContraPoints there it is

[@lostcause2195]

Unsubscribed

[@merrittanimation7721]

Well it is called “cringe”...

[@ThcPatient]

As CS Lewis put it, "Humility isn't thinking less of yourself, it's thinking of yourself less."

[@NotCthulhu]

That's weird, I think of myself as not existing. Have I gone too far?

[@JaseekaRawr]

:o Dayum...

[@nibblrrr7124]

According to some blogpost, that's a misquote (or at least, very rough paraphrase) of a section from _Mere Christianity,_ appearing first in Rick Warren's _Purpose-Driven Life_ ? Good aphorism regardless!

[@Alina_Schmidt]

I think there's also a layer of emotional maturity in it.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

I'd love to read where that quote comes from, that's a perfect description of humility.

[@Glowblue1]

I have an identical twin, so when I hear my recorded voice, I don't cringe at all. I just hear my brother saying what I said.

[@Glowblue1]

I posted this after only watching about half the video. In-between watching that half and the second half, I watched something like 12 of her other videos first... Natalie, I love your videos! And you look good. F*ck the haters.

[@LemonSte]

That's so interesting! I'd ask if you feel the same seeing videos but i imagine you don't look totally identical, since you probably have different styles. When I hear myself I seem to either cringe or ... what's the opposite? Idk. It seems to be hit or miss, more related to whether I'm being annoying in the recording lol. Interrupting, whining etc. All I discovered while filming and recording myself recently is that I blink a lot and for some reason I do a happy, semi baby voice when talking to my partner lmao

[@crosswiredmediator2374]

That’s a cool interesting new thought never had before, how identical twins actually Could be having the same voice patterns as well with all else they share like finger prints that are exactly the same. I guess I assumed the differences of personality that would occur over time from different experiences and life paths taken would alter speech patterns even if share same physical vocal cords.. aka environmental and brain chemistry / personality would make twins voice different.. Now I am curious if someone has studied this before .. let’s look up and see if they got some stats to toss at us to make us feel like we are smarter now we learnt something , that in reality is useless data we will also forget minutes later after learning it all ^^d

[@Glowblue1]

crosswired mediator We do have different personalities and life experiences. Also different fingerprints. We checked.

[@crosswiredmediator2374]

Lol lau don’t feel bad we all sound like we have personality disorders When talking based on who ever at the time cross our path We are talking with ..and or the environment/ activities that are going on when your speaking with others, which will also change your emotional frequency and voice patterns as well .. it’ s practically the same as why your teacher sounds different when having to repeat same class lectures 5 times a day when addressing a class , compared to how your teacher sounds when addressing that student crush in their office in privacy.

[@bookworm3756]

“Pride is not the opposite of shame, but it's source. True humility is the only antidote to shame.” - Uncle Iroh

[@DelapierceD]

Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis

[@kbolternorris2676]

When a kid's show is more sound ethically speaking than a majority of the population you know everything's fucked. Then again kids aren't born assholes, or biggoted, or racist, their parents and enviroment turn them into that.

[@cjlooklin1914]

@@kbolternorris2676 Id argue that the vast majority of childrens shows contain a level of wisdom and morality that well exceeds the general popluace. The writters of these shows are often wickedly smart, and have things they want to say.

[@synonymous_]

Uncle Iroh taught me to be a decent person

[@samnathan7514]

Holy shit I finally understand what he ment by this

[@odothedoll2738]

Rewatching this hits different now. Im sick of irony poisoning. Enjoy things. Live your life. I am cringe. You are cringe. Live long and screw the rules.

[@fossilfighters101]

fuck yeah

[@Deadring-x]

KILL CRINGE CULTURE

[@luvbuggy1544]

i love and agree with this comment so hard but also i LOVE YOUR PROFILE PICTURE SO MUCH

[@grahamkristensen9301]

In the words of Mother's Basement, "Embrace the cringe that makes you happy, reject the cringe that makes you miserable."

[@Chloe4656.]

Agreed

[@umangmalik]

I remember seeing a comment on “Transtrenders” that said something like “you’ve made abundantly clear how much basic human decency depends on dealing with one’s own shame”, and I feel like that may have been an inspiration for this

[@umangmalik]

omg she liked my comment. Step on my face mommy

[@dammitjames]

Quote of the year award to you; I'm turning this into an embarrassing inspirational wallpaper asap.

[@umangmalik]

@@dammitjames the original comment has deadass been my lockscreen wallpaper for a few months

[@dammitjames]

​@@umangmalik lol i wasnt even joking but i feel better about the decision knowing i'm not alone in it.

[@bolloggfisch1100]

Oh hey you again! The bisexual socialist rose!

[@elguacamolesf4414]

as a straight male, it feels good to have someone call me gorge once in a while.

[@jaojao1768]

Indeed, I feel the very same thing

[@nathaneverett4369]

... yeah

[@highmarshalhelbrecht4715]

Simp

[@NOTABOT2KChann]

@@highmarshalhelbrecht4715 whatever, gorge.🙄

[@patrickrowan6001]

Hey hello hi I can confirm you are all Gorge

[@andrewholliday1094]

Contra: "Hello again, the gays!" Me: Wait, should I be here? Contra: "Straight people are welcome too, as long as you're emotionally damaged!" Me: Oh good, I can stay!

[@leviangel97]

Big same

[@DrakeFellwing]

Respect the straight dudes who are fine with us too

[@PedroBentoIT]

yep

[@merrittanimation7721]

But what about the aces? Can they come?

[@durnsidh6483]

@@merrittanimation7721 I think that she was using gay in the pan-LGBTQIA+ sense, so yes.

[@freddya.1641]

I remember when I first came out as trans and I REFUSED to correct people who misgendered me because I didn't want to be like the GameStop lady

[@RedSpade37]

I still think about her, randomly, to this day. I hope she's okay, wherever she is. And you, too!

[@fullauto86]

That sucks man, id imagine its nerve wracking in the most profound way. Sorry bud, hope things have smoothed out. Do you regardless.

[@ProdKnot]

@@n48_art thats so real. it feels somehow like annoying and disrespectful to correct someone even though they are directly disrespecting me by misgendering me.

[@Jhaynz]

Literally me

[@lindenm.9149]

@@ProdKnot100% got fired for “complaints from fellow staff” because of my trans ness, while only telling one person (a gay coworker) about my pronouns when asked and literally never corrected anyone 🙃. Gonna start being as annoying as the GameStop woman since the consequences are the same. At least it feels that way.

[@katastrophic3907]

me: *cant watch 55 minute uni lecture im literally paying to watch* also me: *watches 1.5hr thesis on internet psychoanalysis*

[@carlosdumbratzen6332]

Same But those profs are just bad at making online lectures

[@BritneyLaZonga]

Yeah. Its better. Simple as that.

[@DahliaLegacy]

I know right? XD Like I have an attention span of less than a goldfish but can watch her videos for days. XD

[@MeggonomiX]

It's because of the a e s t h e t i c

[@ewigerschuler3982]

@@BritneyLaZonga Small box? :-)

[@miloandersonofferein]

Re: Jessica Yaniv. I work in transgender social services in BC, Canada, and I just want to set the record straight that she did NOT host a topless pool party for children, nor did she invent "All Bodies Swims". What she did was try to maliciously infiltrate and/or sabotage an LGBT youth group event, and many others which weren't as meticulously documented. She is, to put it lightly, an extreme thorn in the sides of anyone trying to do anything wholesome around here, and someone who is HIGHLY monitored by local event organizers (omg, if only people who claim "trans activists" don't care about Jessica Yaniv knew the truth...) Some history: the "All Bodies Swim" events in Vancouver started around 2010 as after-hours swims at a public pool so trans people, fat people, disabled people (etc) to come swim in a bathing suit and chill together. These events became fairly popular, and led to policy changes in Vancouver around trans-acceptance (the Parks & Rec board ended up integrating "trans swims" into their regular programming). Other communities in Canada (mostly smaller towns around BC) started hosting All Bodies Swims around Pride hoping for similar policy changes. At these after-hours events at pools, it's not uncommon for a couple adult transgender men or non-binary people to swim topless. (This is generally legal in BC.) Years later, after All Bodies Swims became mainstream in Vancouver area, a youth group in Langley wanted to do a LGBT youth pool party, and as a youth-led initiative they decided "no parents allowed!!!". It was branded All Bodies Swim, the generic code at this point for gay pool party. Jessica Yaniv, someone I believe to be a legit predator and also a confounding saboteur, starts claiming on the internet that she is organizing this youth pool party and talking about tampons and toplessness and all this stuff: she effectively got the event shut down by siccing internet trolls on teenagers who just wanted to swim. This is not the last time she has done this - she seems to search the internet for LGBT youth buzzwords like All Bodies Swim and SOGI (what the BC school system calls education about sexual orientation and gender identity) and claims online to be "in charge" of them (even if they are in different provinces), linking to their event pages, sending thousands of trolls to harass unwitting victims like small-town rec centre receptionists or, more recently, Zoom meetings of high schoool GSAs who can't meet right now... it's a mess and a constant battle, and branding like "All Bodies Swim" has had to be abandoned. She's also been invited to talk at alt-right rallies in Vancouver, and I find it hard to believe that she does any of this "by accident". I think she is a liar who gets a kick out of harassing gay teenagers in more ways than one. I personally hate when youtubers and news orgs do "spotlights" of Jessica Yaniv, because it just adds to the amount of trolls who feel justified in taking out their transphobic beliefs on wholesome Pride events. It just straight up does NOT "help the children".

[@rikkicrowder7134]

Thank you for the first-hand insight!

[@Anilikedifranco]

Thank you for the info, and good to see that another person from bc has impeccable KZbin taste

[@jayebullock8002]

Jesus, that's terrible(i know that's an understatement, but that's my legit reaction)

[@oliviamaynard9372]

@@RyanStorey1231 yaniv is trash. What I don't like is if I refer to it as he people act like I am some thing worse than that. Meh activism sometimes

[@BenvolioZF]

Uhh this seems like this should be an official press release please?

[@bwhit7919]

“Doth not a lolcow bleed?” is the most perfect mix of meme culture and high culture that I can imagine

[@leonconnelly5303]

Shakespeare's as middlebrow as you can get

[@marioandwes]

Merchant of Venice right?

[@russelljohnson7004]

you can tell it's high culture because she said "doth"

[@radrose4864]

😢

[@endel12]

Mario And Wes New graduate thesis: a literary comparison of lolcows and Elizabethan representations of Judaism

[@riverman9040]

The way feminists were portrayed as cringy was the main reason I considered myself a republican in middle school. I would make jokes about dumb liberals with friends while not realizing that I shared all my beliefs with the liberals and not my friends. It was a weird time.

[@tophatcat1173]

Omg literally my exact experience, except my republican shit lasted until near the end of high school for me. It's like I just had a script I was reading off whenever someone brought up feminism or systemic racism or anything like that. And I can't help but look back and realize that not only do I not currently believe a word of what I said back them, but I never really did in the first place.

[@laincoubert7236]

this comment reminded me of how i was seemingly surrounded by vocal pro-trumpers during the 2016 election and was agreeable just to avoid backlash. and you know the catch? it was happening *literally* thousands of kilometers away from the closest US border. at school, in the media, at home. in one word -- cringe.

[@overgrownkudzu]

same, i always thought sjws and feminists were dumb and unreasonably (and, well, cringey) and therefore didn't want to be associated with them. Not US so not republican, but in retrospect, i just never realised what these people actually believed, and i was never actually on their side, nor were they on mine.

[@lil_weasel219]

i was self aware enough to recognise i wasnt a right winger, baby progressive with some bigoted views, but it was like "im one of the good feminist im not like Big Rewd or the misandrists" but as soon as i moved away from the ancap and nazbol circus sideshow demon spawn id been surrounded by, i flung myself far to the left, and departed liberalism for good.

[@nexaentertainment2764]

This is a similar pipeline to my teenage years. It's a stupid effective right/alt right recruiting tactic (intentional or not). You see all the ridiculous people saying really insane shit, and this entire community that paints them like "Oh yeah, that's what they're all like". And being young and not having a lot of worldview, why wouldn't you believe them? They have so many examples after all. If you believed a lot of these people, the world is being taken over by sjw femi-whatevers and only the small sane conservative minority still has any sanity left. So, if you think that female supremacy and male inferiority is bad and not equality, then stand up against feminism!!!!!

[@alexgrindle5550]

Contrapoints consistently tackles concepts that make my stomach fear-drop, because they feel too messy, taboo, and personal. Sometimes it's hard to watch her videos, but when I've finished it feels like catharsis. I can't even imagine the guts it takes to MAKE them. Thank you Natalie for putting so much emotional and creative labor into your work

[@Mx_Maex]

Like Hannah Gadsby talks about in Nanette, Natile knows how to control the tension fo sho

[@rareusername12345]

Literally every single one of her videos slam dunks my entire being directly into the garbage. I feel like I need to lie down

[@rareusername12345]

@Kimmminem West Sometimes self analyzing hurts a lot, but it eventually leads to self betterment, so I think it's for the best

[@kaleeshsynth9994]

Contrapoints can only talk about this without making me delve into self hate.

[@HypnoLuna]

very well put

[@RycoreXIII]

"Social reject battle royale." Pack your bags everyone, it's over. She just described the entire internet in one sentence.

[@squidcultist0022]

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[@scydot.1622]

@@squidcultist0022 and the best reply of the year award goes to...

[@Hi-vf9wx]

I'm gonna quote this everyday

[@kamilareeder1493]

*Thunderous applause *

[@BEERBOMB113]

Epic

[@big..pablo.]

the youtube notification shows up as “Contrapoints just uploaded: Cringe”

[@janaeelia221]

Weird... that’s normally what it looks like when Blaire White uploads

[@Syfoll]

@@janaeelia221 *Vanessa

[@modalgrabe2501]

Check out Louise mazanti (psychologist), her take on masculinity, femininity and Jung's theory of animus and anima possession. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKrKmIWsf7qCrrM

[@mrbanks456]

She gon lose subscriber

[@kelv5754]

@@Syfoll why does it matter? is there any specific reason to call her Vanessa instead of Blaire? I noticed that Natalie in the video calls her Vanessa every time too (I genially don't know)

[@az-wh2bt]

i know it been years since this video was posted but i just have to say: kesha lyrics rewritten in iambic pentameter is absolutely iconic and the fact that she’s even trying to pass it off as cringe is disrespectful to those of us who have actually posted cringe. apology video rn

[@citizeninsane8518]

I'm reading Macbeth for school, nearly wanted to write about it's structure when it came to things like iambic pentameter, but ended up doing a different topic because I cannot, for the life of me, differentiate between stressed and unstressed syllables. Almost want to comment "I would love to see those Kesha lyrics" because maybe that could help me, and it'd be cool to see how such restrictions effect the lyrics, like, it could be similar to translating poems to other languages but to a lesser extent.

[@sorejack]

So many people fail to understand how hard writing iambic pentameter is. I remember when I was trying to master this back when*cringe* I was trying to be a poet. I basicly memorized pucks outro from a midsummer nights eve, trying to add to it, because of how well it flowed. It became so bad that I found myself talking in it after so long, and still couldn't write it without screwing it up. Gah.

[@sottosopravoce]

When I was in grad school for Italian, I tried my hand at translating Morissey lyrics into Petrarcan sonnets, or squeeze lines like "Two lovers entwined pass me by, and heaven knows I'm miserable now," into Dante references.

[@g0thicuk]

I love to think that Natalie doesnt have sets but instead adds extra rooms to her increasingly labyrinthine house every vid

[@thestarsturn]

a winchester house situation, if you will. wonder if there’s any ghosts

[@g0thicuk]

@@thestarsturn ghosts of abondoned chatacters perhaps?

[@useroffline9999]

i like to imagine that she’s lying about living in baltimore, but instead appropriated an abandoned mansion in the countryside of virginia and makes all the sets for her videos with supplies stolen from the local craft store.

[@QuinnArgo]

She lives in a Lovecraftian house which presents to her the rooms she will have to use for the next video

[@DirtPerson]

What some might consider to be a "Rose Red" scenario. Hopefully with less death and misunderstandings of what autism is.

[@lufarias13]

do you guys remember the whole rebecca black's friday situation? there are interviews today where she talks about how bullied she was, like fr she got death threats and everything, and all of that because... it was a cringey song?

[@xXbadbadgerXx]

Totally. I remember cringing at that, Justin Bieber, 1D, and Twilight. In-group cringe at young teenage girls-oh, the contempt I felt for the "other girls" who dared to openly be "team Edward" or "team Jacob". Lindsay Ellis' video "Dear Stephanie Meyers" was eye-opening for me, and is worth a watch if you haven't already.

[@Vangle-icarus]

I totally felt like there were so many opportunities to mention Rebecca Black because good God she was bullied horribly

[@Donnerbalken28]

@@xXbadbadgerXx Honest to god, i really, really, really don't get cringe culture. If i don't like what is presented to me.... then i just don't watch it?

[@businessgoose6057]

She was so rich and pampered that her parents bought her a nusic video..... but DEATH TREATS?? OMG! That is disgusting!! The poor girl...

[@eileennguyen842]

That is genuinely sad. Did I watch the video in college and cringe? Sure. I even probably laughed at an email with a subject line that referenced it. But why would I ever want a teen girl dead because she made a music video of herself singing a dumb song badly?

[@TrlllyComicBookNews]

When Jennifer Lawrence fell at the Oscar's I didnt feel cringe for her falling but instead for the man who ran up to help her up but was too late because I know exactly how it feels to try to help and you dont get a chance to.

[@RDWheat]

Oof I feel that

[@chelseawildflowerloftinwey1945]

yes and I felt it every single time she played the clip in this video

[@PixieoftheWood]

Hey, it's better to be 'the guy who tried to help' than the 'guy who stood by and didn't even try to help'.

[@laurieee1705]

Oh my god I know that feeling lol

[@klatonb]

Pain.

[@cartoonhippie6610]

I've never understood why "self love" is taken to mean "hype yourself up". When we love another person, it isn't typically because we think they're the most beautiful or intelligent person in the world. We care about them, we value their happiness, and we hold space for their flaws. Why can't we learn to do the same for ourselves?

[@mayconlcruz]

This is because only we ourselves are "blursed" of being capable of being in a position to know what is really going on in our minds, while at the same time we need to deal with our anxieties. It's much easier to empathize with other people because, whether we like it or not, that's the closest we can get to feeling what the other person is feeling, and not being able to experience other person's feelings on a 1:1 scale ends up being a kind of "safety net". It's much easier to forgive and help someone else because basically "we're not in their head." However, it is much more difficult to be empathetic with ourselves because we are in this first-person position, where we have to deal with our inner demons 24/7, in addition to our fierce desire to aim for something better for our lives, which in turn time ends up falling into the pit of self-comparison. Because of this, the main reason people hype themselves as a form of self-love is precisely to try to speak in a louder tone than our anxieties and frustrations.

[@mikeciul8599]

Unconditional love doesn't require that you're beautiful or smart or talented. In fact it's the only kind that can let you see someone clearly. That's what I want for myself. I've heard humility described as "seeing yourself clearly" but I can only do that if I don't recoil in shame when I see failures or wrongdoing in myself.

[@tortis6342]

My kind of self love is based on the question, “If I was someone else, would I want to be friends with myself?” And currently the answer is yes.

[@MsPBJTime]

Watch her recent video about Love. It gives much more nuance to what we mean when we say "love," and a fair amount isn't egoless.

[@cartoonhippie6610]

@@MsPBJTime I have watched it and I really don't see how it's relevant to the kind of self love I'm talking about.

[@voldemortsshampoo4551]

a petition to rename dysphoria "gender cringe"

[@hotsuope]

ummm? yes please

[@DDub04]

You don’t understand sweaty. She has... *glances around gender cringe.

[@americantoastman7296]

Yoo that just made me laugh out loud thank you so much!

[@melvint-p9500]

@@red2theelectricboogaloo961 give this man an apostrophe

[@maocharlisme]

That's cute

[@webshowMUFFIN]

I have indeed found that telling people who use the word 'gay' as a synonym for 'stupid that it's problematic has zero effect on them. However saying that it makes them sound like a thirteen year old boy who just discovered call of duty and yo mama jokes has been incredibly effective in getting them to stop doing it.

[@justalostlocal]

Ur spilling the truth, sis.

[@RebeccaKatsuya]

I might try this out next time. Like, this is a pretty nifty life hack!

[@bubblegumm5483]

Oh wow I'm absolutely gonna use this one. I interact with this friend circle tangential to mine a lot and they're quite unabashed in calling each other "faggots" or "retarded," etc. (Oh the things a gaymer puts up with) God I'm so excited, it's gonna feel so good to say "wow that's pretty cringe bro"

[@jennamomenna5750]

Ok so how do I get middle schoolers who do all those things to stop saying it?

[@name-fv4du]

@@jennamomenna5750 it'll still work and it will hit hard, tho maybe not right away

[@proliferatingprofligate7032]

As a gay man, I see this all too often when the "low-key" gay guys see a very camp/feminine gay man and they all reflexively have to sound the "Gross, he's not one of us! I don't understand!" alarm. I had one acquaintance in particular who appeared to be literally revolted by the sight, and he grew up in a very fundamental traditionalist household. I've always seen it for what it is. A group of deviants finding someone who is more deviant and loudly proclaiming "At least we're not that!" It just makes me sad. None of them seem to actually be aware that they're trying to build themselves up by tearing another down. That it doesn't matter how many others they throw under the bus; the "normal" people still won't love you.

[@elmarricochetto4913]

Yes! On this note: I remember as a young (very unsure and lost) gay man cringing at other more „feminine“ camp gays. I literally felt an enormous embarrassment and uncomfortableness. Now (thanks to Natalie!) I realise that it was a kind of toxic in-group cringe. In reality I felt embarrassed about myself, constantly controlling if I still “pass” as real “masculine” man being gay, therefore judging others. Thank God, it didn’t (d)evolve into contempt and a morbid cringe or obsession. On the contrary I realised some day that I subjected other gay men to the same heteronormative standards and discrimination I myself suffered under so hugely and stopped judging other people (and me!). Now ten years later, I feel entirely comfortable with myself and all parts of me (masculine or feminine), and thus feel entirely comfortable with every kind of gayness and masculinity out there.

[@Kiflarful]

@@elmarricochetto4913 I went through something very similar.

[@thecrazygainerguy]

I'm fascinated by these white middle class gays that really desire to fit back into that society. I myself have spent my whole adult life trying to escape that boring, pretentious fake world. I can see that it provides a certain degree of security but that's not worth it to me at least. It's also important that all the progress on gay rights has come from trans people/femme gays/butch lesbians and other types of non-conforming people openly challenging the systems and forcing people to take notice. Almost like you can't win acceptance from just conforming to society. Funny that.

[@frrascon]

@@thecrazygainerguy yup. And the kind of acceptance that is conditioned on"being normal" is so fragile. It is something that people will take away from you when it becomes expedient. Who in their right mind wants to make that the only way you can be accepted?

[@sauvagesauvage1869]

I used to be this way but I think there were two different and intertwined reasons that caused this feeling: 1 - The most important one is that I grew up in Morocco which is a very conservative country where homosexuality is actually illegal and where people were mainly ridiculing it for being "feminine". I was never really fem at all although I didn't perfectly match the masculine archetype either so when I actually discovered I was gay, I was scared of being perceived as these people who get ridiculed and I wanted to be on the side of those who laugh. 2- As a gay man that comes from a hostile communitty, I never identified with what they call "the gay scene" (stereotypes like drag queens, using grindr etc. which are completely fine btw but they're just not my thing) so this came on top of my internalized homophobia and made me feel very disconected with other gay people to the point that I would actually imagine "wrong" things about them that weren't there. This thing of imagining "wrong" things made me very judgemental on people I was envisaging to date (including my now boyfriend) and made me feel like I didn't "fit" anywhere as a gay guy (+ I'm mixed so that didn't help lol). This experience made me want to create a more friendly space for these individuals who don't really identify with the comunitty in my uni's GSA so that they would see that everything is chill.

[@shibe5877]

A wise tumblr user once said "Cringe culture is dead and I'm turning in its corpse for the reward money," and I live by that.

[@ninaandsimone3854]

iconic

[@tortis6342]

ooh, that's a good one.

[@grt2779]

⁠@@fandomcringebucketthats goes insanely hard

[@rileymallory2955]

I love Contrapoints, but I really worry any money she is making from this channel is going to her obvious unhealthy addiction to intricate set dressing.

[@lukecarlson4710]

But it's so good!!!

[@gabetratz2364]

that's an addiction i'm willing to enable

[@Nephilim2038]

Yes, she. Don’t you watch the episodes

[@gabetratz2364]

@erik masterchef go away

[@fr0ggi3princ3]

oop I found the terf

[@ranaldadams4917]

Not naming catgirl nat Nyatalie was a real missed opportunity.

[@kmickCSX]

Ranald Adams what have you done

[@ranaldadams4917]

@@kmickCSX wook upon my works ye mighty and despaiw owo

[@adeer87]

UwU

[@teona4279]

Maybe that's her middle name

[@ranaldadams4917]

@@teona4279 Natalie Nyatalie Wynn, Yt.D.

[@tenorpabloromero]

"People shall say I couldn't sing, but no-one will say that I didn't."- Florence Foster Jenkins In a way, Flofo (as she is often called) has become an unintentional patroness saint of aspiring opera singers. Enrico Caruso himself was a fan of hers- he admired her genuine joy of singing onstage.

[@tenorpabloromero]

Headcanon: After a lifetime of having the love and joy of singing but not having the talent for it, Florence Foster Jenkins came back as Cecilia Bartoli as a reward.

[@Maxxx1musP]

Every time I (silently) start criticizing someone for doing something badly, like performing or creating, I try to remind myself "Well at least they are doing it. You're too lazy or scared to even try!" She's actually pretty inspirational.

[@Dastankbeets9486]

Honestly, the Chris chan situation is beyond disgusting. That’s not, like, obsessive cringe culture at play, it’s just a sadistic cult. It’s beyond insane.

[@yasmine6781]

It reminds me of Amberlynn Reid and Haydur Nation

[@It-b-Blair]

Why has she not, or no one encourage her to seek legal action? That’s slander, to say the least! Manipulating for medical records is also illegal, and with those methods; for more than one reason

[@ewanloughlan8489]

They should just play Celeste instead

[@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift]

When I first heard about Chris Chan and the baiting. I knew then and there, the people who were "lol cringe XD" were not the most moral bunch of begin with. I felt like I was seeing the scummiest motherfuckers in real time destroy a person's life

[@CrystalDoggoIsMissing]

@@It-b-Blair well im pretty sure she’s been arrested at the moment

[@ArcMedicalResearch]

contrapoints videos are wild because you watch like 25 minutes in and you're like "okay she's gone pretty deep and made good points, this has been a hell of a ride but I'm interested in her closing statements" and then you mouse over the player and there's another hour to go and you don't realize the full depth of the journey you're about to go on but now you are invested and you come out the other side a veteran.

[@kenjidev576]

To the goldfish even his bowl is just as deep as the deepest ocean he can imagine. Educate yourself or suffer to follow all your life (just like the alt-right does).

[@nachfullbarertrank5230]

@@kenjidev576 Uh, what are you trying to achieve by posting a million comments here?

[@safahasan486]

Nachfüllbarer Trank lmao yeah I’ve seen this guy like everywhere, how’d they even get here?

[@nachfullbarertrank5230]

@@safahasan486 ...idk, pretty sure I've seen them on other channels already

[@Emylisis]

this happens to me every single time

[@ceamoline7722]

tldr: I was in a cringe comp and it actually de-radicalized a friend of mine who was veering into the right 3 years ago i helped lead a protest against milo yiannapolous at my college. i was a freshman at the time and v early in my transition. I was really genderfuck at the time with lots of hair and makeup and jewelry and just so much body hair(honestly still think it was kinda a look). i got interviewed by a camera person who i eventually learned worked for brietbart. they posted my interview which was honestly really terrible(it was my first interview ever and i did really poorly and really was just not prepared at all, i got better with practice tho) The comments immediately were basically saying just transphobic things and the usual "triggered"/"attack helicopter"/"kill urself" and eventually it would make it into the cringe compilation videos. 2 years later, I was telling a friend of mine that story. We had known each other at the time but we were not really close at all. They told me they had seen the video in a cringe compilation and it had actually shocked them back into reality. They had been spending a lot of time watching cringe comps and making fun of sjws and what not. When they saw the video of me they had to stop cause they said they knew me in person, and I had been nothing but nice to them. What was once a nonstop deluge of contemptuous cringe had been interrupted with what was probably compassionate cringe(maybe even just sympathy for online bullying). They told me that it really stopped them from going further into that whole subculture of online cringe and brought them back from the doorstep of the right wing. Anyways thought that was relevant enough to comment because honestly making youtube comments is totally cringe so I've never actually commented on a yt vid before

[@ContraPoints]

Cea Moline thank you for your first comment, I love hearing the human stories on the other side of that dehumanizing content

[@TeagueChrystie]

This story was incredible. Thank you. (Natalie: Best video ever.)

[@EcopiuM]

@Turquoise Cheetah Of course an alt reicher manages to make such a stretch.

[@shariwelch8760]

@Turquoise Cheetah You're radical. Anyone with any brains can clearly see that from what you wrote. Happy now?

[@mischr13]

@Turquoise Cheetah "how dare you not tolerate intolerance towards you, an oppressed minority! So MuCh FoR tHe ToLeRaNt LeFt! Wahhhh" no one has a "right" to give talks at colleges. you fundamentally don't understand free speech. no surprise there.

[@milkteamachine]

"I'm a-logging these cat girls" is a sentence that would be impossible to explain to any other human being in another time.

[@JoneseyBanana]

I found the section about the general lesbian subreddit that's been flooded with early/pre-transition transbian catgirls to be *fascinating*. I'm a subscriber there myself, and there's often a lot of complaints that users with trans flags get heavily downvoted, especially if they're talking about trans specific topics. I wonder how many of the silent downvoters are actually fully transitioned trans women experiencing in-group cringe like Natalie?

[@JacksonKillroy]

its pretty damn hard to explain to most people today even

[@r.b.7577]

This is where I agree with older people about modern technology; when they were young, before the Internet, they could mess up and the only people who knew about it were people who were present, or heard about it, so if you did something embarrassing in high school, you could forget about it when you moved away to college. Now it's constant self monitoring, being terrified you'll end up as "the person who did x" for the rest of your online life. You can't grow, because trolls won't let you move on. This is such a wonderful video, I loved your comments on Chris chan

[@quantumblur_3145]

Media ethics class in college covered this exact thing: the internet has destroyed the ability to forget, and thus the ability to forgive. A decentralized, perpetually-archiving panopticon with no singular will, but a constant random one-in-a-million chance that its eyes turn on you and hold you to a social identity you discarded and outgrew a decade ago. The only way to gain its vague approval is to show constant self-loathing until the end of time as some form of repentance. An endless resignation to a faceless nothingness to which you truthfully owe nothing.

[@solver271]

I love how connected "Cancelling", "Shame" and "Cringe" are. Great work, mum.

[@shariwelch8760]

There's been a nice arc to these videos. I can't wait for the next one, as usual.

[@discodiscordia]

I find these super therapeutic, it's such a meditation on modern culture.

[@fightvale57]

Its topical.

[@ScorpionViper1001]

@@discodiscordia Years of my therapist trying to teach me to stop hating myself by getting me to see I'm really better than I think I am didn't work. But Contra's self-hatred as another version of self-importance has made me stop and think a bit. I'm not so sure if self-indifference is a philosophy I can adapt, but I at least see how I might be doing something wrong and still diving into the selfishness and arrogance of my younger self that I hated and I'm starting to feel if I can address that somehow, maybe there's a way out of my depression.

[@discodiscordia]

@@ScorpionViper1001 yeah, maybe it's because self-indifference sounds harsher than what is is. I noticed that the older I get (I'm 50 btw.) the less fucks I give. Like I don't even feel embarrassed anymore. Those examples in the video, like JLaw tripping, I just think it's adorable.

[@goingallofgarden7570]

nothing is cringier than seeing a 25 year old make an "epic cringe kid compilation getting rekt top kek" when in reality its just a video harassing an actual harmless 10 year old that's most likely neurodivergent

[@toastmcporridge8069]

then it turns out the "twenty five year old" is actually an unaccomplished 42 year old dud who lives in his dad's garden shed amongst the debris of a thousand disassembled computers

[@Sweetie.21]

@@morganqorishchi8181 I hope he got banned or at the very least kicked from the server. I kinda want to join an Animal Crossing server now though, never thought about there being AC Discord servers before.

[@useroffline9999]

as an autistic/adhd person, nothing makes me _seethe_ like cringe compilations featuring people who have a lot of interest in one piece of media or another. it’s insidious enough if it’s a neurodivergent kid who has a hyperfixation or special interest, but jesus, since when was unambiguously enjoying something “cringe”?

[@cacapoopie4438]

YEAH

[@kewlnes987]

What timestamp was this at?

[@guy3480]

conclusion: *hbomberguy ACTUALLY saved the west* using the power of cringe

[@captainvoronin3684]

hbomberguy destroys an incel with good takes and observational humor

[@michimatsch5862]

His fallout 3 video caused contra‘s darkness video to play and now I‘m an intersectional anarcho- communist feminist. Somebody please send the means of production.

[@tawhidrahman5985]

OMFG SO RIGHT

[@captainvoronin3684]

@@michimatsch5862 I too have been radicalized by video games. We must seize the means of production from Bethesda Software in order to make a better Fallout sequel.

[@hassanabdulazim]

He also defended Dark Souls 2, the equivalent of which is destroying the whole planet! (/s I also love Dark Souls 2 lol)

[@livvlife]

As an autistic person this makes me so angry. Maybe it’s because I’m autistic so I notice it more, but I feel like I see this mockery of autism everywhere- all this ableism that people don’t even realize- and it’s just so upsetting. Being looked downed upon and made fun of and laughed at because of being autistic is really heartbreaking. It doesn’t surprise me that people find autistic people “cringe” or “funny to make fun of” even though that is so messed up and I disagree.

[@WhomstoeverIsAStupidWord]

Show me where autistic people were mentioned ?

[@GAsh0012]

Don't be so autistic

[@livvlife]

@@GAsh0012 go fuck yourself. It doesn’t work like that, I cannot control the fact that I’m autistic. Also it’s impossible to be less autistic or more autistic. If your autistic, your autistic. If your not, your not. Your an ableist Idiot.

[@andrek6920]

Honestly. Im autistic, or maybe aspergers. And I still made fun of autism and aspergers as a teen. Whether by just using them as funny insults (artist, sperg etc) or by making fun of other people.

[@livvlife]

@@andrek6920 That’s still really messed up and I hope you realize that. Just because your autistic yourself doesn’t mean it’s okay to say that kind of ableist shit. Also, Asperger’s is autism. Asperger’s is just a way to say “high functioning” which is a pretty ableist term. Your autistic or your not. Kind of odd you felt the need to comment this sense my main comment was about me getting bullied for my autism. If you think that’s ok, it doesn’t matter if you think your autistic or not, that’s still messed up.

[@brunah4329]

I will never forget I discovered my bisexuality on a genderfluid cringe compilation edit: a year later after this comment, I am also now transmasc nonbinary so my life is one big irony lmao

[@Auderox]

felt that

[@brunah4329]

@@meringue3288 found one of them really attractive and questioned my sexuality until I was like huh maybe I do like all genders

[@poopman6146]

@@brunah4329 if you like all genders, you're not bi, you're pan. Not trying to be mean in anyway.

[@brunah4329]

@@poopman6146 actually in the bisexual manifesto it includes all genders, I love any gender, but I just choose to call myself bi

[@eliseduda2948]

@@poopman6146 The way I've always looked at the difference between bisexual and pansexual is that there's a lot of overlap, especially depending on how you view gender and sex, but as far as I'm concerned, whatever someone is most comfortable calling themselves is how I'll call them and it really makes no difference to me. Kind of a more, "whatever man, go with the flow" perspective but that's just my two cents lol

[@BreezyBeej]

"Let's make this about me" cuts to a dancing clown. Happy Mother's day, mommy

[@Rettequetette]

Bullies who are claiming they are "trying to help" are the worst kind of people.

[@LisaBeergutHolst]

See also: most parents.

[@lwcaexii]

It's like they're aware of their own guilt but so keen to carry on gaining whatever validation is so valuable to them, they'll latch onto any thinly stretched cognitive dissonance they can.

[@Maksie0]

Heard that excuse a lot from the people who frequented /r/fatpeoplehate when that was still a thing. Like dehumanizing and viciously mocking fat people would motivate them to get in better shape or something. Which, no, it doesn't do that.

[@el_naif]

So, you’re saying that to “help them” or to distance yourself from a version of you?

[@theMosen]

Yes, that's such a cheap excuse, I wish it was called out universally. So you're deliberately making someone feel bad to get them to change so that they're protected them from... people like you making them feel bad. Hmm, maybe if there weren't people like you there wouldn't be a problem.

[@TheWorldsStage]

"Mascotization" is also known as weak man argument (a play on 'straw man') or nut-picking (a play on 'cherry-picking'). Showing the weakest or the nuttiest people in a group in order to represent the entire group.

[@inanna1997]

Its a bit of both at the same time imao

[@RosieG9012]

The real cringe was the friends we made along the way.

[@educprof2160]

This is me after realicing that my friends were fascists.

[@deejaydee1578]

@@educprof2160 lol

[@aeroandspace]

Isn't that just tumblr?

[@VampKat]

Don’t remind me

[@baykkus]

The real cringe was t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶r̶i̶e̶n̶d̶s we m̶a̶d̶e̶ ̶a̶l̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶w̶a̶y̶

[@jemay71]

Cis lesbian grandma here, loved your exposition on this subject and it got me thinking. Maybe there is a third path of cringe to explore and can only be experienced by a parent for their child or a similar type of relationship. An example of my experience with this type kind of cringe was when my autistic son came home to tell that me he had asked the most “popular” girl at school on a date. “She said maybe, mom!” He told me with such confidence. The cringe I felt in this situation wasn’t contempt or embarrassment, but was a cringe nonetheless. Rooted in the deepest fear of a parent, that in the end you can’t protect them from some of the disappointments of life. I didn’t feel angry at the girl, she probably didn’t know what to say or how to avoid hurting him.

[@jazmine6784]

😔

[@kitic.rodriguez6758]

Cringe at your family it's reallyy a thing. I cringe so easily with my family that I have pushed them out of my emotional and social life. My dad is one of the most cringey people I know. I've spent my life clenching my jaw next to them and thats really exhausting. And they are decent parents, I'd might say. I don't know wtf its wrong with me.

[@shinjite06]

I'm sure my mom felt that a lot with me lol.

[@jemiu9525]

I wonder if this falls into the "ingroup embarrassment" category to some extent. Your family is your ingroup, and you're embarrassed for your son. It's not contempt that leads you to embarrassment, but rather compassion (perhaps almost a type of pity) for your son. The key difference here is that this isn't the type of ingroup embarrassment driven by fear that it'll make the group (family) look bad, because how could it? I wonder if there can be a protective type of ingroup embarrassment that, rather than protecting the group's image, is focused on protecting the group's feelings.

[@jemay71]

Jemiu I think you are right there. There is an aspect of wanting to protect him, I was never embarrassed for him.

[@fl00fydragon]

Other creators: I'm not going to touch that it will destroy my career. Contrapoints, dark queen: Mmmm, sweet sweet sustenance.

[@ObamaMpreg]

As an SE Asian woman, I kinda feel the same way you do about trans lesbian cat girls when it comes to other (S)E Asian women putting on an uwu cutesy persona. I know it’s not their fault, but it feels like they’re playing into stereotypes about us, and like you said, a “kind of visual baby talk.” But at the end of the day, I know it’s not the fault of those Asian women but of the non-Asians who dehumanize and fetishize us, and Asian women can express themselves however they like, and it’s on me to get over my in-group cringe.

[@lillymcgee6270]

when she said, “no you can’t become an anime girl, Lilly, fuck your dreams” i felt very personally attacked

[@Tues48]

You go, Lilly. Be an anime girl if you want

[@robinchesterfield42]

...and now I'm thinking of Lily from "Zombieland Saga". Poor Lily.

[@zim6622]

same.

[@hurristat]

i've slowly been watching through her stuff and she always uses "lily" as a stand-in for cringe trans girls and as a trans girl named lily who is a little bit furry.... i felt incredibly personally attacked

[@cescovan]

@@hurristat I think she got the inspiration from Lili Elbe herself

[@PixieoftheWood]

The thing that makes me mad about the video of the overweight woman swimming was the fact that swimming is the safest way to exercise when you get over a certain wait because it doesn't put pressure on the joints. She is doing one of the best things she can do to try and become healthy, and here are people making fun of her for it. Also, I'd never heard of Chris-Chan before this, but I think if any people who call themselves 'Christorians' are thinking 'at least I'm better than that', I have some very bad news for them.

[@whatelseison8970]

This might not be _much_ better as a general reaction to the actual human struggle behind the individual in that clip, but without context or even any identity I was simply taken with how hypnotic the motion was. I wouldn't go so far as to call it attractive, but there's a certain raw fluid dynamical aesthetic to it. Over the years I've generally done my best not to look at others in prejudicial, unkind ways. Growing up, my mom who at one point struggled a bit with losing weight, would say things about obese people when we would be out in public and it really stood out how terrible and mean spirited it sounds going around viewing others that way. It's not a good look. I know the person in question wasn't meant to hear it but I feel like a person can pick up on that and it must feel awful.

[@arigadatred5395]

@A Spelling Error Don't encourage the robots, it only makes them stronger.

[@ThePotatoSapien]

@@dualcoregalaxyxxnewextensi1687 okay this is hilarious to me for some reason

[@fructifer4502]

I had never heard of Chris-Chan either. It was heartbreaking to realize humans can make literal institutions founded on the premise of bullying one harmless person.

[@MA-yu2ss]

@@fructifer4502 it’s also really unsettling and kind of scary

[@Cruizinelli12]

My 70 year old mom asked me about cringe the other day, and I said- oh do I have the perfect video for you! She absolutely loved your video ContraPoints, because it was easy to follow along, due to the costumes and characters capturing your attention and keeping it! You helped a boomer understand the Internet and KZbin better! Pat yourself on the back lady! ❤️

[@featheredcanine1897]

J Cruisinelli This is absolutely adorable

[@vivienneseargent842]

That’s amazing that your mother wasn’t reluctant to learn about new things, I congratulate her curiosity

[@insertnamehere1983]

"no, you can't be an anime girl Lily" was a very strong callout as a transgirl called Lily (well Lilith but, y'know) who heavily relied upon the whole "uwu nya" subculture thing until like, 3 seconds ago

[@Lmcv82]

You're valid Lily

[@bizzy1648]

i love you lily

[@Ihelpertricks]

Lilly sounds based af tbh

[@pressedrose1]

Everyone's talking about her catgirl look but like no one's mentioning her circus one like that's a vibe

[@skyllalafey]

As someone who's always been obsessed with the dark carnival aesthetic, I just wanna say AMEN

[@Cynddelw]

This is my first video from this youtuber... the ring master makeup actually made me take a double take and say wow. I was really impressed

[@____-pb1lg]

@@Cynddelw it's so fucking well made, especially the eyes, god I wish lenses like that were more prevalent now, how cool would that be

[@Jackjargon]

@@____-pb1lg I know they keep hypnotizing me all through the video! Love it!

[@unblorbosyourshows9635]

She totally looks like an anime villain

[@myrhoam]

"Straight people, you are of course welcome to tag along too, provived you're emotionally damaged" I've never felt more included in my life

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

Lol what do you want? She can reach anyone lol.

[@spencerbarton5353]

Chomsky: Manufacturing Consent, Contra: Manufacturing Contempt, the study of cringe. nice

[@metalude1]

Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent needs an update focusing on the internet

[@CaptainKie1]

When you called out Kalvin i felt that divide between adult understanding and teenage understanding of the world. Us adults in the lgbt understand that the hate we experience has nothing to do with “bad examples” and more to do with our mere existence. I feel part of the cringe of “they’re making us all look bad IM not like that” is also that youthful hope kids have that maybe if they’re good enough the world won’t hate them. There’s also this narrative surrounding the alt right pipeline that insists that bigotry and hate simply does not exists anymore, and that’s why the cringe compilations worked so well for kids because the narrative was also “what are you whining about that stuff doesn’t happen.” That’s also why a lot of them (myself included) grew up and got de-radicalized by you and others because they finally went into the real world and saw this hate in real time everyday. They know it’s wrong, but they were meant to believe it just didn’t happen anymore. When he grows older, he will realize he could be the most misogynistic, transphobic, straight, tough guy there is but he will not be accepted by everyone. This is something everyone has to realize, even hetero cis people, but some have more trouble accepting it than others. Especially those who, like you’ve mentioned, feel a little taste a normal for once, and want to inflict what they’ve experienced onto others.

[@CaptainKie1]

(Side note the in group cringe is too real. When I came out I felt a compulsive need to make sure EVERYBODY knew that yes I’m a lesbian but not “that” kind. I.e. the blue haired, hairy armpit, thick framed glasses kind)

[@spuriusbrocoli4701]

*super* prescient! I also think there's a major theme whereby lgb & esp t ppl tend to be traumatized during adolescence. Trauma can freeze one's normal cognitive/emotional development at the state one is in when the trauma occurs. Which is why I think so much of the lgb & again esp t community are so aggressive abt bullying each other for inconsequential shit, whether on the left, right, or anywhere else. It's teenager behavior. & It's nothing new, just amplified by social media. -- Michael-Giuliana (they/them)

[@KD-ou2np]

Well said

[@sorejack]

@@spuriusbrocoli4701 the problem isn't people being cringe. That can only be so effective, because it will build empathy on its own. It is the awkward otherness, combined with hate and arrogance, that is what are used as effective tools of radicalization. When confronted with these , people respond with hate. It's why it is so important to call it out when you see it. Awkward otherness can be sympathized with. But hate really cant, not easily. That is how they dehumanize it. The same reason that showing someone to be fascist and racist helps radicalize us. They profit from driving people to seem unreasonable, arrogant, and hateful. Why else would they bait themselves at every protest. It's a win win for them. It's also how MLk started winning. He presented himself as reasonable, approachable, and empathetic. Nothing could change his otherness, but people lost patience for his detractors when he gave them nothing but his otherness to latch onto. There is no fascist that can bring a good counter to empathy and reason. It defies their hate, and more importantly, shows them for what they are. You ever notice how it is never being other they really attack? It is always combined in a way to show that the other hates you and they are just defending.

[@overgrownkudzu]

@@CaptainKie1 i feel like to some degree it's normal when growing up, most kids go through phases distancing themseleves from the perceived less cool and less acceptable people, and if you're a trans person like him, that's just where it falls. My problem is that due to the political climate, this is somehow seen as some serious political statement, when really it's more adjacent to scoffing at your younger siblings for playing with dolls or young adults looking back at their scene kid years. cause yeah, the sparklegenders can be really cringey, as can the uwu anime trans girls, and you're allowed to think that, but ultimately it shouldn't be treated as a political opinion, which it is because conservatives like it.

[@emilytrace3670]

I grew up in a house SO saturated by intense, active shaming that the feeling of *self-cringe* feels like a black hole roaming around my body. When your parents condition you to feel overwhelming shame for things like wanting a hug or liking a Disney movie, remembering normal embarrassing moments can be truly overpowering and even physically painful because the *cringe* response was so disregulated when you had no emotional boundaries.

[@TheImpiroGirl]

That’s very well put, I experience the same feeling! It’s horrible

[@parrotdoesasploot2381]

I felt that

[@MsElectricsurge]

I feel the cringe deep in my stomach and have to gasp and shudder in order to release the tension.

[@Emily_Entropy]

This comment hit me hard. I feel so bad for the children being raised by the millions of vicarious participants of this morbid cringe culture.

[@vitorialoureiro6191]

I felt that. Growing up i was constantly shamed for my interests and tastes: the music i liked, the books i read, the type of TV/movies i watched... it was all framed at this cringy shit by my family like i got laughed at for watching amelie poulain at 14 yo ffs To this day i don't share the stuff i'm passionate about w people for fear of being mocked Cringe culture is so fucking stifling tbh

[@boldanabrasevic3020]

"Can I just hire a hitman to kill everyone who remembers me" is my constant mood. I'm too socially awkward for my own good.

[@RykerJones28]

Totally. I live in the constant fear that sometimes, the people I used to know from school suddenly have a flashback to me being a cringy dick. I know they likely don't, because I don't have the same sudden intrusive memories of them but still. It's enough to keep me up at night.

[@PittsburghSonido]

UltraViolence You’re wrong. We remember EVERYTHING!!!!

[@desu38]

I do miss "socially awkward". It's somehow less vitriolic than "cringy".

[@Shadsie]

"Social reject battle royale" is probably the single best description of the Internet I've ever heard

[@ssjwes]

same!

[@tawhidrahman5985]

I mean I would be apart of it but fair

[@wesleymartins5970]

Yeah. No one with an actually cool life spends enough time in the internet to join that kind of crap. We all degenerates.

[@liviasilva3333]

holy shit so true

[@lucaspd5446]

yep

[@loorthedarkelf8353]

You see, this is why I super appreciate folks on KZbin who explained this stuff. I am autistic, and I also experience rejection sensitive dysphoria. This means that when I perceive that someone is rejecting me for whatever reason, the mental discomfort associated with that cringe, with that embarrassment, rises to the level of traumatic. I know it sounds absolutely ridiculous, but if you know anyone who is a perfectionist who cannot stand to be perceived as wrong? You may know someone who experiences RSD. Because of this, I have always avoided cringe content. When I realize something is for the purpose of making fun of someone, I immediately back out. I could not stand American idol, because it made a show of people who believed in themselves and turned out to not be very good. Very possibly because I was bullied as a kid for often being socially out of line without realizing it, I empathize so freaking hard with the person on stage who really did think they had this and had already daydreamed about the stage that I just can't watch. I immediately back out because of this I am often behind on this or that cultural phenomenon that is centered around pointing and laughing at this or that cringy figure, I don't want to know. I don't want to see human beings ripping into each other for perceived inadequacy, because when I feel inadequate I want to die. I will empathize with it, it will hurt, and it will hurt for years if it's potent enough. So videos like this help me understand what I've missed, letting me view things from a few steps back and with an understanding voice that reassures me that these people aren't bad. By extension, I am not bad, and I did not deserve to be punished.

[@Liberate269]

❤❤❤

[@punchingdragon3666]

Dude, that's literally exactly how I feel, I can't stand cringe content and everything u were saying about RSD lines up with my own experiences uncannily. Im actually starting to wonder if I should look into it.

[@Yolohipsteryolo]

Yes!!! Only person in my family and most social circles who doesn’t like those reality talent shows!! ND and RSD!! 🙌🏻💖💖

[@Savelion]

I could've written this comment. You're not alone 😬

[@alexs8166]

I relate to this so hard. This is why the only reality TV i will ever watch is Great British Baking Show, because everyone is so kind and supportive to one another!

[@zzzzoot]

The makeup and visuals in the circus scene were lit

[@orion2116]

@@ChristieBrewster ba dum tss

[@GQ2593]

Almost made me forget about his degeneracy

[@straps-of-skin]

Ikr i loved that aesthetic

[@jennyneedsmeds]

@@ChristieBrewster ok and? we're pointing out that it's visually appealing.

[@zokontech]

Christiaan Tomatenpuree fuck off transphobe

[@ianheckman6655]

"I don't think the internet has yet reached self-consciousness about the fact that the fear of public humiliation rules us like it's the 17th century." A lovely observation.

[@dylanchouinard6141]

I actually think that we are growing up a little bit in recent years. Primarily from the adage ‘cringe culture is dead’, even though it has been used to justify the Twilight renaissance, I think it’s still a step towards that self-indifference

[@ianheckman6655]

@@dylanchouinard6141 Certainly Ms. Contrapoints voicing such a thing is also a step toward it.

[@strega0]

@@dylanchouinard6141 I mean, I still think Twilight is still cringe but I'm being less of a dick about that now.

[@davantiowo6519]

@@strega0 for me I've started to see twilight as more of a comedy more then anything lol. There's a great KZbin channel Synthetic rose that compiles out of context clips for the films that have just been amusing me during this quarantine lol

[@linseyspolidoro5122]

‘Light Contempt’ better known by its brand name: ‘I can’t believe it’s not contempt.’

[@aubreetanner9543]

Blaire White's morbid obsession wiwth Yaniv reminds me of when people say "It's okay to call them ugly, because they're ugly on the inside!" No, because you're still attacking their appearance which is wrong regardless of who you're doing it to. Attacking someone for not passing is wrong no matter who you're doing it to. The problem with Yaniv has nothing to do with how little she passes.

[@Parker-nm9cg]

exactly. it makes it feel like they would think she's somehow not as bad if she was a supermodel, and that is deeply uncomfortable. making fun of predators who aren't conventionally attractive for not being conventionally attractive just obscures the fact that there are just as many, if not more predators who ARE. who people cover for because they're not socially acceptable to ostracize. i even recognize some of that bias in myself- i am typically more wary of unattractive men than attractive men on an instinctual level, not because they're actually more dangerous, but because everybody fixates on them when someone does something wrong. and attractive men are typically the only ones positively represented in popular culture. it's something i need to do the work to unlearn.

[@CursedCatTruffa]

Yeah, like, even if she passed she would be still a predator

[@alim.9801]

Agreed. Going after a shitty person for their appearance is really reaching for low hanging fruit.

[@katarinatomac4376]

every so often i'm shocked at how deeply engrained the association of beauty and morality is in our culture

[@tortis6342]

And then there's people who say it's okay to misgender her (and other trans people of similar repute) because "she doesn't deserve to have her pronouns respected." to which I'm copying a reply I left elsewhere: "I worry that saying it's okay to misgender criminals and individuals like Yaniv will open the floodgates to misgendering any trans person who makes even the smallest 'breaches of wokeness.' Is Yaniv trash? Absolutely. Is it a good political strategy to misgender her? Not if you want to be an ally to the trans community as a whole.

[@evolving_dore]

"We've been on a journey to find the cringiest people on the internet...but the real cringe was ourselves all along."

[@Noway022]

Maybe the real treasure was the cringe we made along the way

[@justalostlocal]

It was inside us all along. Literally.

[@axse996]

People have done "internet deepdives" before but this.... this is the REAL internet deepdive, pulling up all the filth and scum for everyone to show, but what we're seeing is not someone else behind a screen, but ourselves.

[@dp6392]

Neringa Mecelyte ouf that hit hard

[@jooddart9736]

Cringeception

[@mawichan]

"It's a black mirror because it's the phone screen!" But for real.

[@totallynotzokix11_mc21]

It isn't a deepdive if she blatantly lies about the Chris-chan situation. It's clearly obvious she did little to no research.

[@TryinaD]

Totally not Zokix11_MC I did take a gander at CWC’s long ass tale once upon a time and I think she was pretty accurate.

[@mvjbass9561]

God I really wasn't ready for the self-hatred being a form of narcissism line.

[@Elvalley]

I was introduced to that idea by an art professor, no less. And directed at me. I was really not ready for that, and it took me a long time to be able to process the possibilities behind what I then perceived exclusively as mean spirited commentary and no more. This video helped me add yet another perspective: maybe he saw in me was he saw in himself, and didn't like it.

[@unblorbosyourshows9635]

Me an hour ago: Oh hey Contra uploaded a long video, I'm sure it'll be interesting Me now: I have realized for like the fifth time that I built my entire personality wrong

[@mvjbass9561]

@@unblorbosyourshows9635 omg yes

[@partylikeits1066]

@Pia Kjærsgaard oh fuck I feel seen and I don't like it

[@justalostlocal]

@Pia Kjærsgaard This. This is it. Thank you for these insights. For better or worse I deeply sympathise with your feelings. Those similar delusional thoughts have bugged me for years. I know that the constant psychological abuse I inflict upon myself isn't based in logic, but I still can't bring myself to believe that my existence has any worth. Where did this self loathing even came from? Idk. Maybe Natalie's suggestion, a form of positive nihilism, would help.

[@CyanidePusher]

I have so many set questions. In the cat girl segment: are all those stuffies/figures yours? Did you buy them for the video? Did you borrow them from friends? Did you do a casting call for All the Pikachus? This keeps me up at night

[@julesr8171]

My money’s on them all being borrowed from Jenny Nicholson.

[@tortis6342]

@@julesr8171 **midnight** **jenny's phone rings** Jenny: "hello?" Natalie: "Hey Jenny, it's Contra. Can I borrow your plushie collection?"

[@Mdnjdvd]

Cringe culture also peaking with the “simp” memes right now. Boys really are cringing at their own feelings for women and fear of lacking self awareness and looking like an idiot. Dont they know acknowledging your feelings is dope af

[@DennyGreenSeen]

right on !!!

[@tobithetabby6376]

Exactly

[@Nobranes]

Simp originally started as an insult for niceguys but then it just became a catch-all and got really annoying really quickly

[@teratoma.]

it would be dope if it wasnt temporary

[@punkrockmusiclover19]

This saddens me, because any interaction with the semblance of concern for someone else is automatically “simping.” I’ve seen a lot of people online embracing wholesomeness and kindness, and I’m worried that this “simp” business is going to ruin that

[@fluffygreysocks6703]

I have been an aerialist for 7 years. In the circus, we have a saying: "Circus hurts. If it doesn't, you're not doing it right." Hitting the perfect pose is almost always a bit painful, but eventually you become desensitized to it. The audience, however, is always changing and unfamiliar, and you can see them cringing with a sort of vicarious discomfort when they imagine themselves in the same position, bending in half backwards or hanging 50ft in the air. But they continue to look, because of a fascination with the artist's ability to do these things, seemingly without pain or fear. Our industry is built on spectacle, but beneath it is a form of empathetic cringe. It used to be all forms of cringe, including mean-spirited laughter at things seen as absurd or socially unacceptable (fat man, bearded lady, etc.), but we have come a long way, and now it's more about accepting weirdness by putting it on full display, which invites people in the audience to relate to the surreal characters we present on stage--because we're so far out of the realm of normalcy that it feels impossible to be judged by us. I hope the parallels that I see between the history of circus and modern internet entertainment continue, because that would mean eventually seeing a shift from contemptuous cringe to a more empathetic one. It isn't about being in the most pain possible. It's about knowing the difference between good pain and bad pain. In the same way a submissive knows when to call "yellow" or "red," a trained performer knows when pain shifts from being a necessary discomfort to being a danger. It's all about awareness. The person behind The Clown makeup has a very different idea of a clown than the people who came to see The Clown. Unfortunately, not everyone we put onto a stage or launch off a trapeze platform is experienced enough to have this kind of awareness. Most people don't know how to do clown makeup. The problem is, there are not coaches on the internet to warn you that circus hurts. Why bother teaching someone how to land that trick safely, when it's just as entertaining for them to fail? Why bother learning to do clown makeup, when we can just label someone wearing no makeup a clown? Oh, I'm having so much fun extending this circus metaphor! The double entendre is titillating. It's too bad the extent of knowledge most people have about our world is Dumbo and The Greatest Showman. :( I'd say we outrank KZbinrs on the tier list of "misunderstood jobs." xD Thanks for the great video, Natalie!

[@sprix1055]

this was really fascinating to read, thank you for sharing

[@tonraqkorr230]

This glimpse into your world was amazing.

[@justalostlocal]

Coming across such beautiful comments like this I have always wished youtube to have a archive function :)

[@Cradily8000]

Great essay. Thank you 4 sharing

[@thepeacefish]

Wow I want more circus insider content.

[@emilyfarfadet9131]

I'm so glad this touched upon where Autism fits into this phenomena. So much of Being Autistic is the exhausting whiplash of lacking all perspective and self-awareness- and then suddenly becoming so hyper-aware of ourselves we can hardly breath. And it makes it painful when we recognize these moments in other Autistic people. It hurts us to see someone mirroring our own behavior- and we trick ourselves into thinking it's better to draw their attention to 'the cringe' before the neuro-typicals latch onto it.....but it isn't. Sometimes I think we all envy the Tommy Wiseau's of this world....they may never have to know.

[@gregjones7878]

I was thinking the same about Chris-Chan. Wouldn't it be such a blessing to never have the curtain pulled back and never have to see yourself the way other people see you?

[@EmoBearRights]

I think there's something kinda almost admirable about people who are terrible at something but carry on anyway. The best thing is to be like Tommy W and embrace it.

[@tyblazitar]

I'm not autistic but I have AvPD, and when I first started in group therapy specifically for AvPD patients it was traumatic to suddenly meet all these other people with similar issues and get annoyed at all the aspects which reminded me of myself. It really intensified my self-loathing because it gave me so much insight into how I was acting and coming across, and how annoying that must have been for others.

[@SpecialBlanket]

@@gregjones7878 No, it's not. His whole life has been pulled around by these social manipulations which at the end of the day he is powerless to navigate successfully. I feel the same way. It's horrible, actually.

[@cait132]

i am a goth, i love to poke fun of ‘tiktok alts’ who ‘pretend to be goth so often. i realise i do this, because i feel like a poser myself, because i want to seem separated from them, and still want to not seem like a weird goth stereotype to everyone else

[@CPFace]

Starting with a guy singing Bohemian Rhapsody badly, ending with "nothing really matters". It's the circle of life

[@deboritaaa]

and a bit of danse macabre in the middle, just because she can

[@kestrel4521]

Major missed opportunity there...Should have added the dude's performance ending "Too@0o00@0o0 MÈÈè̩ȅÉé̩ĒḔḕḗẼĘę́ę̃!!!!!"

[@Mikewee777]

I finally got this punchline after sitting through this hour long video with COVID19 puns sprinkled inside to emphasize how toxic it was.

[@johnseckinger9523]

ContraPoints has done it. She’s finally given us a sophisticated historical timeline of “Cringe culture”, one of the internet’s most low hanging fruit of immoral behavior masked by the anonymity of the internet. Truly a remarkable mix of ContraPoints sophistication and the internet’s deepest hole of unrelenting depravity.

[@jerrodshack7610]

@Michael Jordan lazy

[@leonconnelly5303]

"Being mean is wrong." Wasn't that sophisticated?

[@notabagel]

@Michael Jordan eat shit coward

[@johnseckinger9523]

Michael Jordan If this is supposed to be directed to me, I hope you see the irony of someone who won’t post an actual picture of themselves as their profile pic calling the other one a “tardfaced hamplanet”. Be brave, Michael Jordan...

[@str4wb1m1lk]

You sir are a poet

[@clivehandforth3531]

when i was conservative i was obsessed with being a "not cringey trans brown woman" i wanted to be one of the good ones. Now i realize it wasnt about politics i was just boot licking to be part of the "valid" in group

[@clivehandforth3531]

@Carol Marks yikes that sounds a bit conspiratorial. I cant tell if ur joking, but antifa and BLM arent organized groups of people that go in and beat the shit out of random conservatives lol. Theyre mosrly random protesters and leftists against fascism/racism. Its not like an organization of people who kidnap and brainwash people or something (though there are violent protesters). I think we should be welcoming to conservatives, cause how else can we change their minds? If someone had doxxed me and beat me up when i was conservative, i dont think i would be in the political position i am in now. You cant change someones mind by yelling at them.

[@Weebabuu]

@@clivehandforth3531 i feel you bro, i used to be "based" just so i could feel like i fit in. I realized i was a cringey dumbass

[@viciousdrop1992]

I feel you, for other things in my case, but I do

[@petermercurio9415]

t's cringe cringing to my cringe memories.

[@joannam1284]

Cis woman have such a long history of this too. Getting praise from “good, moral, conservative” men is relatively easy af if you behave in the right way. Just denounce all women who don’t act the same and you have an army of conservative simps who both adore you and hate you, and will do anything to protect and enforce your status as a token “ideal woman”.

[@Prauwlet213]

as an autistic person. Thank you. We are never taken seriously, and we are treated like we aren't humans. Thank you for shining a light on this. Cringe culture is fundamentally ableist.

[@luthientinuviel3883]

Fr. I've been cringe all my life as and autistic person and its horribly isolating to realize Im not accepted for what I like or who I am.

[@Nora-tl5lg]

Mfw society refuses to accommodate for me at all and all of a sudden I am the weird one??

[@darkstar2874]

Compassionate cringe; “Oh honey noooooo” Contemptuous cringe; “Eww.” Also I find those cringe compilations even cringier specifically because they think they’re cool by viscerally hating so many different kinds of people.

[@Minam0]

It is cringe to use energy and time compiling those clips

[@arol1644]

TB I can’t watch them, it’s agonizing.

[@joshz4166]

I have no compassion nor sympathy towards people so its easy for me to watch things like this.

[@jabba1984]

@@joshz4166 honestly, bragging about that is cringe

[@ThePopopotatoes]

@@joshz4166 go see a psychiatrist

[@persbaderse]

this video is the only thing that calms me down when i'm in a self-cringe spiral. thank you

[@a-pathetic]

I second that. This vid came out after a period in my life I was basically an impersonation of cringe, while I was and still am getting back my self awareness. It hurts so much to remember the shit that I did... This video has been cathartic to me.

[@myujmes]

good to know I'm not the only one

[@micahmosse3876]

One of my comfort vids too!

[@dominomasked]

If you can find some compassion for the cringiest part of yourself, you become nearly invincible.

[@MrBigMacManify]

I think this comment just saved me!

[@QuikVidGuy]

Isn't that from the first game of thrones

[@Rikku147]

... Oh.

[@krrez]

Hmmm that's a hypothesis worth disproving.

[@PapaSmurf11182nd]

It's immensely strong and immune to nearly any weapon. When used properly you can become nearly invincible.

[@Brandon-xr2nx]

The part where Rose of Dawn dumps her entire psyche out while a universe-sized Jessica Yaniv slowly engulfs the screen is the funniest thing I've ever seen.

[@Thunderblock7889]

Everything wrong with this video: -She does not understand the difference between calling someone who does not deserves it(transgenders, queer folk, discapacitated people, etc) and people who deserve it(furries, otakus, incels, trolls, otherkin). -She made an entire one hour video of a very simple subject -She sounds like an obsessive, morally hypocritical liberal, progressive SJW. -She forgets that r/cringetopia also called out horrible people like zoophiles and pedophiles and made fun of trolls. Cringetopia is one of the only few good subreddits out there. -She is basically the "stop the hate" snowflake. -She takes the topic too seriously. -The "straight people offended" joke makes no sense. What was she saying with this? What was the point of this? -Furries do deserve to be called crinfe as many are toxic and perverted. Not to mention many are zoophiles and SJWs. -She claims that if you use the word cringe your a "fascist" and that your supposedely support "child groomers". Just pointing out my problems i have with this video.

[@davidcremin3837]

"Evil is a relay sport when the one who's burned turns to pass the torch" - Fiona Apple

[@coolhamid1]

Hit me like a ton of bricks the first time I heard it

[@JC-jd1us]

Damn Fiona still has it

[@jillhopkins4842]

• Fetch the Bolt Cringes • The Idler Incel • Extraordinary Men • When the Pronoun • Tidal (Critical)

[@zw6201pppnp]

Jill Hopkins 🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎 Appie Yummy I wuv Apples

[@Thecodexnoir]

David Cremin Hurt people, hurt people.

[@toganium4175]

Finally, a topic that I'm an expert in.

[@theory_underground]

lmao

[@muhammadalirawjee4589]

Love ya toga!!

[@gustavttt4148]

anime, my friend, i can see why.

[@sashaneumann]

Finally, the topic that I'm.

[@ihavenoname2569]

Being the “cringy” kid in my year in high school , I pretty much have a masters degree.

[@molotawv]

watching this with my new kitten so she has positive examples of catwomen representation as a growing girl

[@nina6722]

unrelated but i love ur sawayama pfp sm

[@molotawv]

@@nina6722 ty!!!!!

[@paulwilliams1731]

@@nina6722 ditto, it's the best lol

[@Bravo-oo9vd]

are you a discord server moderator? /s

[@molotawv]

@@Bravo-oo9vd no

[@bryan.conrad]

Do not kill the cringe within you. Kill the part that cringes.

[@lil_weasel219]

well, no, otherwise youll become narcissistic like vaush. Just tone it down instead

[@forthex]

"There's narcissism in self-hatred" This vicious cycle isn't going fast enough, floor it!

[@thevampirefrog06]

There's definitely been at least one AITA post where a boyfriend realized he'd been a jerk because all the redditers saying NTA were also saying cringey, nasty things about his girlfriend & women in general. "If you're the ones who agree with me I don't want to be right." The cringe showed them the error of their ways.

[@LadyLeviathan]

Now that's a true chad

[@IvanaSantini]

I seriously can't believe this is free content. So much work time and analysis has gone into this and all her videos I just feel privileged to get to watch this. She literally makes the most incredible videos on KZbin.

[@WodkaEclair]

It's like tv. You don't pay for it, other people do. In tv case, adbux, in this case, patreonbux

[@IvanaSantini]

@@WodkaEclair yea unfortunately I've been in the hospital since February and not leaving until June 5th but after that I would love to contribute. I love everything she puts out.

[@egezort]

We've been so primed in capitalism to only get quality content if we pay for it, I'm glad that there are alternatives like Natalie

[@pastelpink1234]

i guees I'll take your word for it and sub then

[@IvanaSantini]

egezort oh definitely the worst are the ones who constantly bring it up like they are doing us a favour

[@thaisplouvier5403]

2:03 definition 3:45 definition awkward 5:45 vicarious embarrassment = empathy 6:00 cringe when lack of awareness of embarrassment 6:50 cringe at vs cringe with 25:15 fedora-tipper, "a man who poses as a galant crusader of past masculinity" 26:37 Florence Foster Jenkins, the worst opera singer 28:22 "The joy of pain: schadenfreude and the dark side of human nature" Richard Smith - compare our worth to others 31:33 Christine Weston Chandler maybe the longest trolled person (trans + autistic) 38:02 morbid cringe 44:21 "cringe is failed seriousness" 46:12 the A log theory of morbid cringing 47:00 in group cringe 1:15:20 coping mechanism for being stigmatized 1:18:50 solution to cringe : self-indifference ?

[@runefaustblack]

People like you have a spot reserved in heaven.

[@cannedcondensedmilk]

ily for this

[@stbananastein]

Cancelling, Shame and Cringe make a perfect triad

[@calvincrady]

Holy Trinity

[@loverboy7996]

@@calvincrady unholy trinity

[@atomic.rabbit]

Cancel, shame, cringe, repeat.

[@skepsomon]

Next one should be 'Consolation.'

[@zanite8650]

Canamge

[@puddingtrucks4050]

To quote the tumblr post STRANGEAEONS found "Cringe culture is dead! Like whatever weird thing you like!"

[@caterinaferrari5166]

Me too! love this intersection

[@DahliaLegacy]

I love her videos too. ^_^

[@quanicle101]

Laura Carey onision gets (or got) views. this isn’t hard

[@RockZombieIAm]

@@YoufTub It's not an obsession. We all hate to admit it, but we like to watch train wrecks. She bought his books to review it like other KZbinrs did because its so awful that its so much content. Onion also wouldn't leave her alone for like a week and made like 3 videos about her, so it gave her a personal reason to make videos about him. That's it. I find it more cringey that you seem to like onion

[@daisy3869]

Cringe

[@theythemmoritz4537]

The level of thoughtful introspection in these comments is the kind of reflective critical thinking I spend a whole semester trying to get my students to do. Incredible, just incredible!

[@fenestrapain]

Theythem Moritz Are you teaching an elective or required course? Either way, I’m all for a Natalie Wynn pedagogical course :)

[@pancakekaiju1966]

Oh my god "Self-hatred is another form of narcissism" / "cringing over yourself is still narcissism" I'm def gonna speak about that with my therapist thank you so much, for real It unlocked so many things in my brain

[@wenting2457]

aS a DeaF pErSoN thank you for putting this whole ass video in closed captions. Heroic.

[@GiantPetRat]

Los subtítulos en español también quedaron bien!

[@soaribb32]

Ela coloca até legendas em português brasileiro, eu vivo assistindo os vídeos dela pra aprender inglês.

[@jackriver8385]

As someone with some kind of undiagnosed auditory processing problem, I thank her too, and anyone else who remembers to put captions

[@soaribb32]

@Antônia L. Suarez ultimamente as regras do KZbin em relação às legendas ficaram inexplicavelmente mais restritas mas em vários vídeos tem.

[@PyPylia]

I'm just surprised she spent the time to caption the whole video when it's 1 hour and 23 minutes long. That shows true dedication.

[@niallsulcer600]

natalie: Hey how are you me: wow that is such a good point I'd never thought about it that way

[@xaviercockerton6989]

“Hey how are you” meme is fucking hilarious.

[@justalostlocal]

Forgot the *gorge.

[@mujmujkit]

Crinnnnge

[@reptile2141]

“social reject battle royale” is straight up the best explanation for internet culture i’ve ever heard

[@mariebourgot4949]

Sadly.

[@CyberBliitz]

I flashbacked to my old channel where I just made animations. I eventually deleted that channel due to harassment. Cringe Culture against kids is so hurtful to their development. Causing them to wanting to age faster than they should. I constantly live by the rule of “If they aren’t hurting anyone, it doesn’t matter.”

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

I know this is unrelated but I just wanted to comment on how I love your profile picture. Did you make it or did someone else made it?

[@CyberBliitz]

@@kittykittybangbang9367 oh I made it!

[@quantumblur_3145]

Honestly I felt that even when nobody ever made fun of me. It felt like the lack of external bullying just meant I needed to bully myself instead, and it ended up with almost the same amount of anxiety I hear other people describe from experiences of constant bullying.

[@CyberBliitz]

​@@quantumblur_3145 Yes! Exactly!

[@katarinatomac4376]

@@quantumblur_3145 omg that is so real

[@carollima8320]

"When education is not liberating, the dream of the oppressed is to become the oppressor" - Paulo Freire

[@anonymouswife007]

Carol Lima one of my favourite quotes ❤️

[@williamgunderson7365]

That’s a deep conclusion right there

[@strega0]

Shit, that hits different.

[@atlas8827]

my fellow Brazilians spitting fire

[@AssisRodrigoo]

EU PENSEI A MESMA COISA!!!!

[@MrBabaloonski]

I was genuinely confused the first time I watched contrapoints because she was talking so much about trans rights and making weird jokes at her own expense. I’m a cis straight male and the idea of “passing” just wasn’t in my vocabulary. I was confused because I didn’t make the connection that she was trans, she was just a pretty woman talking about important topics. You’ve really opened my eyes about a lot of things and you’re genuinely hilarious when you do it. Please don’t ever stop, you’re awesome.

[@loganwarner176]

same

[@phastinemoon]

You’re not alone in that, Dude. And, frankly, the fact that so many people have come around because of her videos is one of the reasons I stan her so hard!

[@SpukiTheLoveKitten75]

We need more guys like you, Cam Park.

[@craigstephenson7676]

Based

[@SpukiTheLoveKitten75]

@@craigstephenson7676 Yup. Time to reclaim that term from the reactionaries. ContraPoints and those who believe in Social Justice and a kinder, better world are "BASED"!

[@Liboo52]

“I do not support her journey” sounds like the kind of insult a wise old wizard type character would use in a fantasy story

[@joemamajoastar8708]

What large friendly letters you have on your profile picture It would be perfect if it was a book cover for a guide perhaps?

[@gregcollins2121]

Im watching this at the gym and someone looked over during the cat-girl part and cringed and made me cringe. The cringe cycle continues

[@hakimchulan]

hshsh keep at it my guy

[@diamondust2054]

I’d like to thank you so much for mentioning fatphobia. I replayed that part several times and it made me so emotional. This is such a big taboo topic that isn’t really talked about, and I appreciate it even more coming from you, someone who wasn’t targeted by this type of oppression and still has enough decency and empathy to understand what someone else might be going through. You’re a true queen. ❤️

[@Fridge_Fiend]

Fatphobia is very real, it's just some bad actors have dramatically called the wrong things fatphobic so now everyone thinks it's ok to bully fat people

[@Fridge_Fiend]

It's fatphobic to lose weight? Haha yeah right that's hilarious, fatphobia clearly isn't real. I'm gonna go up to the next fat person I see and tell them exactly what I think of their body and call them names, they probably don't know their fat so I'm doing them a favour. At the same time skinnyphobia to a way lesser extent. Shut the hell up Becky, I don't care if you think I'd attract more men if I put on a few pounds, I like girls and honestly I really don't think men care bar extremes. They'll fuck a curvy tree

[@leonardodavinci4259]

Unpopular Opinion: This video is an excuse for Natalie to show us her folding fans collection.

[@robinchesterfield42]

And lanterns. Don't forget the paper lantern collection. (I actually bought a folding fan similar to those at a booth at the local fair, and then, because it was GOD DAMN JULY IN THE DESERT, I started (gasp!) _using_ it! For its original purpose! Pretty AND practical. My kinda prop. :P)

[@DiceGoblin4433]

Its a damn good excuse!!!

[@titojwonnie]

And her plushies, figurines, and pillow. :’)

[@Snuggelbubs1]

That opinion is in fact very popular with me. But that does not cause me to love this video any less. (...or is it fewer? Love this video any fewer??)

[@travisminger9529]

I need a folding fan collection now.

[@brooks1154]

I want you to know that those Kesha songs rewritten in iambic pentameter were for me. I’m that audience. It’s me.

[@lizardperson780]

I honestly really want to see them, not even in a "I want to cringe at them" way, but I'm genuinely curious

[@cgibabyhand]

There are dozens of us!

[@Yukkuri_Yakumo]

What is iambic pentameter. Explain like I'm 5 pls

[@nolaray1062]

@@Yukkuri_Yakumo iambic pentameter is a line of writing that consists of ten syllables in a specific pattern of an unstressed syllable followed by a stressed syllable, or a short syllable followed by a long syllable. It’s usually studied during the same time as Shakespeare sonnets. “Shall I compARE thee TO a SUMmers DAY?”

[@flytrapYTP]

@@Yukkuri_Yakumo Shakespeare wrote in the iambic pentameter a lot. You can find it in all of his plays and most poetry.