Justice | ContraPoints

[@dangelowallaceagain]

Part 1 of 27, I'd hope

[@denomava5470]

YESS WHAT A KING

[@oibruv3889]

oh cool you like contra.

[@TheKajero]

a favorite youtuber of mine watching another favorite youtuber of mine

[@ohmiohwa4199]

Did not expect you here. Welcome deangelo.

[@oliverc.9442]

dude you watch contra? that's so cool, i never suspected that you would be a leftist. You probably said something about it in the political compass vid, but i never got around to it. I will defiantly watch more of your shit now.

[@oniilazo]

I cannot tell you how bittersweet it felt to see Albania (my home country) mentioned in this video, and I say bittersweet because we don't get mention a lot in any media but whenever we do is because these occurrences. The blood feuds didn't only create endless bloodshed between families, but also left a stain for future generations of men in Albania and how they perceive masculinity. This idea of respect (to be earned) and honor (to be maintained) rings so true to this day in my country, so much so that seeing horrific acts of violence has almost become a normal ritual every time the news comes on. Very recently there was a wave of reports of men brutaly killing their wifes and daughters as a means to "keep the family's name clean" because it was seen by the husband's eyes that what these women might have done was going to "throw dirt" to the families good name. Sometimes it feels like there isn't much hope even for the new generation of men to come in Albania because this mentality of "what a men should be" has had roots for such a long time in our society. Either way thanks for the video Natalie. Can't wait for the second part!

[@ololo518]

I just hope that someday it'll get better. Best wishes for your country.

[@oohforf6375]

Well, I will say that Sarandë looks very pretty to visit!!!

[@havocgr1976]

To be fair, many other countries have vendettas, Sicily, my home Crete and others.Women here would give birth to kids just so they could send em on their 18th birthday to avenge a family member that was killed many years ago.Even across the world, as far as Australia.But nowadays its only found in very few small villages, so we made huge progress.

[@theflame5919]

There is always an exit, it's called individualism. You can't change Albania perhaps, but you can embrace your individuality, sat fk this, and move to some other country, live ur life 💞

[@ZenobiaofPalmyra]

At least Hoxha tried...

[@emmatucker4344]

how do i send this to my professor and tell her to just "ignore the catgirl part"

[@categorille8330]

lmao

[@LaMadriguera]

Tell him that is... Because she is loosing a bet she make some time ago, so, is a inside joke.

[@waspoppin4784]

Emma Tucker why would you want to ignore the catgirl part

[@xbaker3868]

That’s why I lock my door every time I watch contrapoints or philosophy tube. Normies ask too many questions.

[@BothHands1]

Jtzkb i don't think a lot of us are "into" the catgirl thing, but she was hilarious, and the outfit also looked kinda really cute. and to be fair, i did have a crush on inuyasha when i was like 12 sooooo i can't really judge

[@IcarusPhil]

there's something so powerful about "people of all races have the absolute right to be low life, drug addicted, petty criminals who contribute absolutely nothing to society." so often we're expected to do great things and contribute and prove our worth as human beings, but as a person you are inherently worthy of respect and love, even if you don't do great things or advance society in any way. thank you natalie

[@theregalproletariat]

"Because that is what it means to live in a free society." An empowering message indeed.

[@w.b.7212]

@BadDenverDrivers John Steinbeck, I believe.

[@RoseyCreations]

So to test a principle, you have to ask, what would happen if everyone thought they had inherent worth the moment they were born and didn't need to contribute anything to society? They're worth it even when they make depraved, corrupt, idle decisions. Then imagine the opposite. I know it sounds nice and good what you're saying, but it's ultimately an idealistic fantasy. We need diligence and earnestness; we need integrity and humility. Or else this narcissistic individualism will crush us in the next upcoming crisis. I understand you live in a soft world, so it's easy to stick your head in the sand, but that doesn't excuse your slothful fantasies of being worthless because you have "inherent worth."

[@moron0000]

I reivindicate my right to be trash (step on me nyatalie uwu)

[@backlogburning]

Oh hell, how to live with that “vote democrat and bully them into doing the right thing” bit going into another hellish election year…

[@333Vampirewillrule33]

Contra trying to make an intellectual point: Her contacts meanwhile: ⬆️↗️➡️↘️⬇️↪️⤴️↔️↖️↙️

[@jenniferluiza8583]

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

[@TheDreamSyndicateArts]

Alright, you win the day for directional emoji usage! 😂

[@SnakesBeSnaken]

Every time it was back in the correct position I cringed a little at imagining her moving it with her fingers that many times.

[@WeiYinChan]

🔁

[@trollololol4601]

Snakey The Snake ikr those massive nails. How r her eyes still in her head

[@EE.333]

I love how the contact lenses just slowly get more insane over time.

[@guillotinepod9988]

Just like real life

[@hyruleflower5695]

So i used to wear cat eye contacts like that and they would just drift and go crooked in the exact same way, and it's just so nice to have my struggle validated

[@danielheflin6658]

@@cladoxylopsida568 Yes

[@ebolapie]

​@@cladoxylopsida568 it's certainly very uncomfortable to watch. oh wait she hung a lampshade on it now it's ok edit: wait, scary lampshade, not ok! not ok!

[@pursuji9613]

Just glue the contacts to your eyes.. DUHH

[@darknight910]

It looks like Natalie is getting closer and closer to following through on her promise to unironically turn into Tabby.

[@notanobviouschoice]

“If the November 2020 election is delayed I will become you unironically”

[@anonymousdratini]

I'm for this.

[@Maskami]

i have no joke been thinking about this line all year

[@ChimeraReiax]

She's expecting the 2020 election to get postponed and honestly so am I

[@marialuke2116]

Awww yeah, *_Tabby Cat ☆SQUAD☆!_* (or, err, Tabby Cat Commune?)

[@Rachel98246]

Love how she calls herself an “ageing bargain-bin Belle Delphine” when she’s literally one of the most radiant women on this hellscape of a planet! I love my two mothers, Ms. Natalie Wynn & the sea ❤️🌊

[@beetljam792]

petition to start calling 'bible interpretations' bible headcanons

[@jcskarambit]

Purgatory and the whole flaming Hell thing is technically fanon from Dante the famous fanfic author.

[@stargazingstar3239]

As a Christian Athiest *clears throat* " *Y E S* "

[@spinter1310]

Bible interpretations are the original headcanons.

[@kristofferschmocker5993]

I love this.

[@abyss1996]

Wait- You don’t do this already? I’ve been doing calling them “head canons” for a while.

[@C0nc0rdance]

I'm old and normie so some of the "aesthetic" goes over my head, but goddamn if Natalie doesn't challenge and educate me in every video.

[@tugger]

youll be fine

[@maxcombest2602]

Oh my gosh, C0nc0rdance! I love your work! You, Myles Power, and James Gurney inspired me to become a scientist!

[@HoleDweller]

Me: hmm, that name is super familiar... Apparently I've been subscribed to you for 11 years.

[@nabillun]

I'd be happier if it went over my head instead of into my ears and eyes! Have to respect the dedication to keeping it up though.

[@tym7267]

omg it is C0nc0rdance! love your videos

[@loknopa]

I'm a german sociologist who has studied the work of Max Weber for over a decade now and I know all about how valid he is. But all this time I never realized how cute he was...

[@Alphapigeon8881]

​@Unhinged Cringe A break well deserved. I applaud your effort in enriching the collective human experience with high quality nonsense and babbles. Trust me on this one, for high quality these babbles are. I consider myself somewhat of a connoisseur on the forms of raving rambling tribble and this is of the finest vintage. I must admit that when i started reading the first thing to came to mind were the effect's of certain deliriants and dissociatives coupled with a case of acute insanity. This, methinks may be a ruse perpetrated by thus truly. For one, the spelling is far too orderly and consistent, very much unlike that of a subject under psychotropic influence. Nay, for youtube's standard it can even be considered good. Secondly, you show a striking amount of social consciousness, by undercutting most of your ramblings by adding idk to the end there is a sense of restraint and "not wanting to go all in" on the statements made. This mix of shyness and openness is more akin to alcoholic inebriation that many of us are familiar with. Not that of more aggressive waywardy states of the mind. My conclusion is that this was written in a sober state and is more of a record of the fluid semi conscious flow from the mind, rather than the direct result of pharmacology. A work of art is what this is, be it the child of passing insanity or creative genius, it holds a place in my heart, truly! You think i kid, that my professions are little but idle prater. The sort of white lie a bitter mother would tell her young child to make them feel better. NO I say, balderdash are such thoughts. In my eyes the rare edelwiess flower that lives in the crags and crevasses, high up in the alpine landscape where few people venture, has a beauty all of it's own. A beauty the mona lisa will never be able to call it's own, not as long as it is stuffed behind 5 cm's of bullet proof glass behind 100 tourists behind an entry fee that costs a small fortune. Your comment is like that edelweiss flower, hidden away in remote reaches and a greater treasure to it's finders than any visit to the louvre. A flowing river thy work is, but not that of the tame danube or rapid and icy ips. Thy river is like that of the Krka waterfalls in Croatia, tumbling blindly and rapidly into a large pool, swirling leisurely, biding it's time, collecting itself only to again drop over the edge, falling, straying into the next pool of azure water. The introduction to your work is akin to a spam advert for beachfront property, it has a vague feeling in it's comprehensibility, without sharp edges one may say, it reminds me of situations in a dream, fuzzy. One can see that Unhinged cringe is familiar with Natalie's work, referencing her offen at the start with such knowing terms such as "your gorg*s self" and "Contrap catnips". The focus of the work seems to drift further away for Natalie's video of justice after this section. This, what can loosely be termed the introductory paragraph, is what i consider a pool. It is a collected, kinda coherent, set of thoughts. Now comes what i term a waterfall in this work. Where the write seems to have a peculiar but familiar surfacing back to sanity. The line "It oftentimes is proven it's become lost or forgotten and some bits in the fluency are absent" seems to be the writers reflection of the work itself. Then rapidly flowing down into the next pool the attention is directed onto google and artificial intelligence. The work continues like this, until the self proclaimed rules are described, that of 0 and 1. The poetic merit that comes from starting from 0 is a favorite of mine, i enjoy it alot. After that the author informs us a rest is in order. The whole post has a genuine kind of creative insanity behind it that works well.

[@Alphapigeon8881]

@Unhinged Cringe Your welcome, it very much was my pleasure

[@paineoftheworld]

@@Alphapigeon8881 , Erik? Pineapple?

[@Alphapigeon8881]

@@paineoftheworld Afraid not, I am but a humble sprouting student to the great stalk of our salvia master, may he stay big money till the end of days

[@paineoftheworld]

@@Alphapigeon8881 , may His Sweat ease the coming and the going, His Beard itch our scratch. Uhhh, sali-hulud.

[@davidwilliamklak]

Me patiently waiting for Justice (Part 2): 👁__👁 Update: I KNOW ABOUT ENVY, PLEASE STOP TELLING ME, I SAW IT THE DAY IT CAME OUT.

[@sakhaswain]

Yes. I've rewatched this quite a few times in the process.

[@Artechiza]

Same!

[@uzomanwosu]

Same

[@perrincalzada9131]

same

[@monyvibescuhospodarheredit3567]

same

[@Pocketdaemon]

"Cringe culture is dead and we have killed it" - Friedrich NYAtzsche

[@thatoneguy9615]

"My biggest criticism of Commumism is that the cringe isn't evenly distributed." -Ian N Drivel.

[@_valentina_4111]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHA

[@adambebb99]

wow did you help her write envy or something lol?

[@Summer-kb2dm]

Chaos ensues....

[@thalgrond]

I had the vague, theoretical idea that a ContraPoints video had a lot of cuts and takes to it, but until I noticed her slit-pupil contacts slightly changing their alignment in this video every time she had to adjust them between takes, I didn't have a sense for just how many of those takes there must be. Now I've seen that, and... good lord, the amount of behind-the-scenes work that goes into one of these essays is beyond astounding. I can't stop seeing things like that now - little details that reveal how much effort goes into making these things as perfect as they invariably end up being. The lighting, the set design (I love the little "LoFi Hip Hop Beats to etc. etc." picture on the wall behind her. It's a nice touch.) And that's not to mention the effort of writing and researching the script in the first place, something that I had already been deeply impressed by. I appreciate your work and your commitment, Natalie. Good content, good catgirling. Hope you get all the head-pats and Patreon money you deserve. P.S. "Blow off some steam at Femboy Symposium" is a wonderful ancient Greek history reference, and I was delighted. These are the kinds of pop-culture references I can get behind: the ones 2000 years out of date.

[@lyserberg]

Couldn't have put it any better.

[@seamustheshameful9498]

What was the actual femboy symposium

[@thalgrond]

@@seamustheshameful9498 To simplify: a symposium in ancient Greece was a private house where men got together to talk and drink. A chill party pad, if you will. A lot of writings and art from the time indicate that there were strong homoerotic overtones to many of these gatherings, possibly to the point of many of them becoming just straight-up orgies. However, in Hellenic culture, it was seen as unmasculine, and therefore shameful for a high-status citizen, to be on the "receiving end," so to speak, of gay sex, so high-status citizens would need the company of lower-status men in the symposium, who were seen as less masculine and therefore would not be as shamed by being sodomized.

[@jonkirby1880]

With enough style and polish, cringe just becomes aesthetic

[@CatloafCreative]

John Waters seal of approval 👍🏽

[@PlaystationMasterPS3]

when you think about it, that's all an aesthetic ever is

[@soumyaneelmanna3097]

Cringe like Contrapoints?

[@klip8726]

Soumyaneel Manna watch your mouth

[@lebunnie]

I was thinking the same thing. It's cute af when she does it.

[@Getz-Da-Chompy]

So Contra's cateyes are blue, which is actually the colour that all cats have when they are first born as cats, which actually means that she is infact a catgirl, as she has not yet reached cat maturity.

[@sadnessofwildgoats]

Well, arnt there also just . . . blue eyed cats? Like adult blue eyed cats?

[@mynameismud8596]

she's also a white cat, they sometimes have blue eyes naturally through adulthood

[@dianacortes4253]

@@ellag3265 definitely not rare. Most siamese cats have blue eyes

[@raccoonlad5685]

@@ellag3265 its not just siamese cats though. the colorpoint pattern that siamese cats have is genetically linked to blue eyes. all colorpoint cats, not just siamese cats (many breeds are colorpoints) have only blue eyes. blue eyed cats are rare but they are by no means THAT rare.

[@dma93-ch]

hi i like cats

[@bidaubadeadieu]

Okay but "If revenge is wild justice, then retributive justice is just domesticated revenge" is an extremely good and powerful line.

[@Lionesse-z41553]

Yes! So good!

[@wolfvonversweber1109]

Not really... If revenge is indeed "(wild) justice", then it's perfectly fine to "domesticate" it, because it would be something good - "justice" - that just needs to be ordered. That's what states should do: Put good, but uncontrolled, concepts into reliable law. If - on the other hand - revenge isn't justice, then retributive justice also isn't just "domesticated revenge". The line sounds smart, but isn't a sound argument. People will only agree with it, if they share the sentiment beforehand.

[@bidaubadeadieu]

​@@wolfvonversweber1109 Hmm, I like the way you wrote that out a lot, but I think the point she's making is that neither should really count as just. If we have the relationship "wild justice = revenge" and then institutionalize and entrench ("domesticate") both sides of the relationship, we're left with "justice = domesticated revenge" since the institutionalization cancels out the wildness. Then, if the viewer thinks "hey wait, I think justice should be more than domesticated revenge, that description is kind of reductionist in that it conceives of justice as merely consistent and not also necessarily promoting ideals of liberation, and positive peace" and so if justice isn't really domesticated revenge, then we can work backwards and say that Francis Bacon was wrong and that revenge isn't wild justice --- revenge is no kind of justice at all! Which is exactly what she's saying at that moment, that we can conceive of justice as so much more.

[@wolfvonversweber1109]

@@bidaubadeadieu I also like your comment, but I don't think your interpretation is the most accurate. Correct me, if I'm wrong, but you're basically reading: "If revenge is wild justice (and justice is nothing more), then justice is just domesticated revenge." You're qualifying the first relation as an exhaustive equation and leaving out the qualification of justice - specifically speaking about >retributive justice< - in the second part of the sentence. Otherwise it would a problem for your reading of the inference as an equation, because both mentions of "justice" need to mean the same, either both need to be qualified or neither. I would read the sentence as: "If revenge is wild justice [meaning: It's a form of primordial justice, not an exhaustive definition], then [the] retributive [aspect of] justice is just domesticated revenge." And I agree with the general sentiment of that statement. In the absense of any judicial system, revenge is a form of justice, as long as it is aimed at bringing bad consequences to bad actions, even if it often doesn't work out that way; that's why it needs to be made equal and follow rules ("domesticated"). I would also agree with you, that justice is much more. For example: Equal treatment, rights and freedoms, unless there is a substantive reason to justify differences (children etc.). But that's already in the qualifier >retributive< justice. And that was my main point. Apart from inprecissions of the statement itself; we can both agree with the statement and come to different conclusions. Even someone that was exclusively focussed on the revenge/retributive aspect could agree with it. It's entirely based on your preconceived notions of justice and revenge and whether you already view them as positive or negative. You'll only arrive at the conclusions you already had. That's not the mark of a powerful line. It'll get a lot of agreement, but convince nobody.

[@wolfvonversweber1109]

@@bidaubadeadieu Also, I don't think we should make the definition of justice too broad. Justice is fundamentally about equality; either by positively giving beings the same "benefits" others have or by negatively bringing consequences to bad actions of beings that are capable of moral wrongdoing. It's not a term for everything we deem good and it doesn't need to be. A good Society isn't based on justice alone. And justice doesn't necessarily mean free or peaceful, sometimes it runs counter to peaceful interaction. Even "justice systems" aren't or shouldn't be based on justice alone

[@martinfoley1905]

Everyones gangsta til the Catwoman* starts talking about the odyssey

[@genevievemccluer7503]

Catwoman*

[@ruipana]

cat woman

[@jennywithaglock3916]

everyone gangsta till LeShawna Ball pfp

[@martinfoley1905]

@@jennywithaglock3916 LMAO

[@FlutterSwag]

Till her eyes go sideways

[@SarahZ]

the socrates shade rattle is sending me

[@BARALover96]

Sup Sarah Sed

[@user-yb2if8jz2o]

Is there a youtube videoessay cabal where all of you meet up and plan how best to take over the world? We need answers.

[@ultimatetadpole9607]

@@user-yb2if8jz2o they're all just good mates. I think it's wholesome, love watching like a PhilosophyTube video and you just scroll down and there's Shaun saying hi.

[@eternal__worm]

Two of my favorite youtubers :)

[@Ash_W04]

Love your channel! I'll never forget A Series of Unfornate Event's ending leading me to such a remarkable channel

[@jakem72]

"If Revenge is Wild Justice, than Retributive Justice is Domesticated Revenge." That is an awesome quote: I really want to but it in one of my legal briefs but I think the judge would look askance at the attribution to "Internet Cat-Woman Contrapoints." And honestly your video is a better explanation of Justice jurisprudence than you're likely to get at many law schools.

[@timothymclean]

You could just attribute it to "a philosopher" or "a public speaker" or something and hope nobody else in the courtroom watches ContraPoints.

[@amyheath6324]

ACAB: Assigned Cat At Birth

[@justinhamilton8647]

Underrated comment

[@alexbradshaw5466]

UWU

[@timeittakestoletgo1687]

Severely underrated

[@TheSapphireLeo]

I may also steal that.

[@itsyagirlVofficial]

All Cat-girls Are Beautiful?

[@Grahf0]

Fact: Nat's eyes actually rotate. She's just blaming the contacts so you won't think anything of it.

[@twistedalicemcgee]

🤣😂 that's hilarious

[@randomcultist398]

>she

[@randomcultist398]

@Sourav Parik >her What part of a good larper doesn't make him look like the character?

[@jeremythegeek2]

This has been bothering me for a while, is it possible that these are toric (weighted) lenses? It would make sense as they'd self-correct to the right orientation unless you put them in upside down and didn't let them rotate fully.

[@therealgooseman2358]

SHE'S A GOD DAMM REPTILE!!!!!!!!

[@n.l.g.6401]

Last video: "I find trans women who unironically indulge in the anime cat girl aesthetic kinda cringe, and I realize that those feelings are a me problem and want to work on it." This video: "Nya." Growth. (EDIT: Realized I said "ironically" went I meant the opposite, oops! Fixed.)

[@vikio452]

Leaning into the cringe, turning it up to 11, letting the discomfort wash over you in waves...

[@cabin_quilt]

this video is her working on it and I love that for her

[@sirhades92]

"Catrapoints" lol

[@Nina-cd2eh]

Post-irony is often an inevitable relief from an uncomfortable or even opressive system of expectations. Embrace post-irony, be catgirl, don't give fucks, dab on the haters. Nya and uwu to your heart's content. uwu

[@perdu6603]

To everyone complaining about Part 2 not being released yet: do you know how long it takes to change the room's wallpaper on every episode?

[@alexander_avila]

I dropped everything including my dignity.

[@someguy6183]

☠☠☠

[@splitterspiegel1414]

legends supporting legends

[@repulsethemonkey1396]

Fancy seeing you and d'angelo wallace here

[@cerealonmytoast4663]

bold of u to assume u had any dignity to begin with... im sorry that was uncalled for

[@m0nk198]

💀same

[@beeson97]

This was the first ContraPoints video i watched, so naturally, I thought this channel was essentially "catgirl explains things." I've since gone back and watched all of the other videos and realised that's only like 70% true lol. Needless to say, I'm a fan now. Thanks for all the work you put into this :)

[@cassie5248]

I'm sure there's a market for that though

[@bejited6932]

lmao

[@LucianCorrvinus]

Natalie is so many things..the Doc, Lord Foppimgton, Tiffany Tumbles, the OG Cat Girl, the Darkness, the Sea Mother, Opulence personified,Baltimore Maryland, Leona LaVey. A very manish Titania, the Philosopher of Traps, the Lobster Queen, the Motherboard, and quite a few thereafter....if Variety is the Spice of Life, Natalee has a flavor profile that blows other 'philosophical commentary channels' away...

[@ksdtsubfil6840]

HEY THAT AIN'T FAIR! I've been a fan since lockdown, why do you get a heart?!?!

[@kanee2085]

*catwoman

[@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780]

One thing I was looking for specifically when people mention police officers and soldiers identifying themselves with Frank Castle, is that Frank sees HIMSELF as a criminal equally deserving of being punished. He has stated multiple times and has shown it in multiple alternate timelines where he succeeded eliminating every trace of the criminal element that he will always be the last criminal to go on his schedule which is extremely dark. What we have here is police officers and military personnel identifying themselves with a man who sees himself as a criminal, ergo with a criminal, who fully intends to take his own life once his delusional quest is completed. The ideal inspiration for American law enforcement is a sort of psycho that mirrors school shooters and if that's not disturbing, I don't know what is...

[@Vickyeverythingelsewastaken]

Also, he showed up in Daredevil, being an interesting foil. Since Daredevil is a lawyer by day, he knows justice in theory and praxis in and out and still can't stop being a vigilante.

[@pantsfortwo4611]

Police officers are literally required to be dumb. If their IQ is too high they are not accepted. Google it. They aren’t thinking about it that hard. They aren’t thinking at all.

[@plog9572]

I don't think the cops who like The Punisher necessarily read the comics where these more nuanced sides of the character is portrayed. They watch the movies with the short backstory and the big booms and big gun scenes. Then they go out in the world feeling badass because they've ALSO been in the military and see so much of them in him wooow!!!!

[@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780]

@@plog9572 That's on them. If you put a man's symbol on your tools of the trade - you represent that man, whether you know him well, or not.

[@RowdyBoy82]

@@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780 You must not have met many American Chrisrians then. The intersectionality of The Punisher, justice, Christianity, and willfully ignoring the source material is an interesting place to stand.

[@pomegranatejelly9767]

I put off looking at Contrapoint’s content forever because people kept recommending her and I thought she was overhyped, but I sincerely regret not giving her a chance over something so minor. She’s so smart and well spoken and hilarious, and she’s gorgeous and has an amazing sense for aesthetics and how they can add to the meaning of what she’s creating, or just add comedy or make difficult topics easier to digest, and she’s so insightful even while putting on a flippant persona. Time to binge watch her channel lol

[@coaxill4059]

It happens to all of us, in no small part because so many things ARE overhyped. Plus she's good for reasons that are hard to concisely describe. I'm just glad you're here now.

[@mithrae4525]

Haha, glad I'm not the only one! (Just a little later to the party)

[@Skullkidjynx]

“Primeval Hebrew shade” is what it’s called when my Jewish grandmother tells me to cut down at thanksgiving

[@unoriginal1086]

Or when you say you don't need any more food to your jewish grandmother at Rosh Hashana...

[@Skullkidjynx]

Unoriginal it’s alway too much or too little lmao

[@unoriginal1086]

@@Skullkidjynx Yeah when I went last year I had just become vegan so ALL of my relatives made vegan food and i had to eat all of it... it still was really good food though...

[@glitchygutz]

Queen Esther Or whenever you tell your Jewish grandmother you’re full at any family dinner, related to holidays or not lmao

[@t3knosoulz]

My grandma is jewish and she won't let me stop eating 😭

[@cwonderland6259]

"I'm sorry that I can't fix America". Finally, an honest campaign slogan.

[@ohmarine43]

C Wonderland Natalie 2020

[@draco1811]

@James Miller Any ideas for a running mate?

[@ohmarine43]

@@draco1811 Lindsey Ellis comes to mind.

[@draco1811]

@@ohmarine43 Let the fundraising commence... We should have enough for a national campaign by 2240 A.D., maybe 2220, if we can convince Nat to finish her Ph.D.

[@cwonderland6259]

@@draco1811 Look, there are no rules anymore. Who needs a running mate? Who says the running mate has to be technically a real, separate person?

[@Js-kk7sc]

Bible study with ContraPoints isn't how I envisioned my evening going.

[@MrGoblin1000]

The best things in life are never expected.

[@miguelcarmona3036]

"Catra-points"

[@isntitabeautifulday1648]

It is exactly how I envisioned mine, but I didn’t know it before it actually happened.

[@anteye5199]

for me a good morning bible study

[@swanpride]

Her study of Greek saga are somewhat lacking though...there is a little bit more to Odysseus reasoning for his revenge. The suitors did try to kill his son after all, and they tried to force themselves on his beloved wife.

[@vedab7364]

'catgirl reacts to the code of hammurabi' there are actual tears in my eyes

[@genieglasslamp5028]

As a comic fan I cringe every time I see a police officer with a punisher sign. The fact that the Punisher also kills corrupt cops and adamantly dont want police to be like him, makes me cringe.

[@corbiecrow9738]

It reminds me of the "god emperor trump" meme the right made about Warhammer 40K which is... Honest (the emperor is a fascist dictator who is extremely xenophobic and generally a massive dick bag but then who isn't in Warhammer 40k apart from tau farsight... So a tiny faction in a tiny race on the edge of Imperial space

[@johnpjones182]

Are you familiar with Steve Ditko's Mr. A?

[@PoilishedMahogony]

Same here. I'm a fan of the character and I recognise an anti-hero at best, villain at worst. One of my biggest problems with the Netflix show of his was them trying to paint him as a good man with a chance at redemption/rehabilitation. That's more like Wolverine than it is Punisher. Punisher is a bad guy killing bad guys. There's no glory or heroism in it.

[@quintonchurch4064]

@@corbiecrow9738 Also, the emperor is really just a dying husk being kept nominally alive by a people who have become more concerned with destroying those within their own empire than with fulfilling their original goal of (ostensibly ) making the universe a better place.

[@DrakeBarrow]

Earlier versions of Frank Castle were a lot more sympathetic, though there were a lot fewer comic characters like him at the time. He has standards of a sort, doesn't go after noncombatants or innocent people, and doesn't enjoy what he does. Just by itself this puts him head and shoulders above a crapton of cops in the States.

[@sailorstickybunz]

34:37 Nyatalie brings up a good point here, but I think this attitude is too American or American centered. A few years (2011) ago there was a domestic terrorist attack against a youth summer camp in Norway, and a lot of children died. As you can imagine this was a huge shock in a country where this doesn't happen much, but in one interview with one of the parents of a child killed in the attack, the parent is asked if they would like to see the criminal punished severely for his crimes and the parent responds along the lines of "no, I want him to get the help that he needs so that he never does this or anything like this again". I think our reactions to injustice are very much influenced by the society/social mores/criminal justice system we grow up with.

[@benhook1013]

In NZ we had the Christchurch mosque attacks last year, and the response from the Muslim community was more sorrow towards the individual rather than hatred. I think the USA is too caught up in 'winning' as a culture and it reflects in lots of ways.

[@rita.itsa.m]

In Portugal people are pushing for a more punishing justice system, longer sentences and don't believe in rehabilitation, specially when the topic is pedophiles (which I can understand the impulse)

[@shaunbarrie2263]

Yeah, in the Nordic/Scandinavian countries there is generally a much more socialist system in place and that seems to work a lot better for everyone involved from what I've heard. It must needs be remarked that in surveys of happiness by country, the Nordic countries place much, much higher than the United States.

[@Minam0]

I feel like there’s gotta be some kind of in between. Cause some people really don’t deserve to be released back into society or they still don’t get rehabilitated. One of the main perpetrators of the black metal church burnings who also murdered a guy served time in Norway. But he’s now a big time white supremacist with a KZbin following.

[@aleksanderk6765]

@@Minam0 yes, in an ideal world Varg would not be a member of the society spreading hatred, but punishment like the death penalty or life in prison is hardly the answer.

[@daisyslusher1281]

“leave my beautiful wet wife alone” -not ben shapiro

[@gpapenburg1737]

DAMN

[@shelbyinmon8654]

She don't have a let ass p word

[@marksilla8276]

Retributive justice in action

[@DeannaBaileytheRavensFan]

LMFAO!!

[@whatthehellisthis]

*that’s a lot of damage*

[@Livi_Noelle]

If Natalie started her own fashion label, my wardrobe would consist of nothing else.

[@lyrainealei7848]

I would love to have the Nyatalie line of Natalie's wardrobe.

[@Livi_Noelle]

@@lyrainealei7848 oh yes, gorge. Any of her looks, but especially Nyatalie.

[@elfodelputoinfierno]

!!! This I've been copying her makeup for like Three weeks It's now a part of my personality help

[@smooches-the-deathmetal-bunny]

the most trans fem thing ever said

[@savannahsart3340]

Her contacts rotated with every turn of the discussion, we stan the consistency

[@elisew.5230]

I love the framed “lo-fi beats to study to” in the background.

[@mdc47]

I might steal that idea and put that up in my apartment because it's hilarious

[@StanislovasRiska]

Having you talk about eye-for-an-eye philosophy whilst constantly adjusting the cat-eye contacts turns this into pure poetry

[@hotchicken9703]

im disturbed by the eyes, yet they just draw me in further....

[@StanislovasRiska]

@@hotchicken9703 gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.

[@Vulga]

@@StanislovasRiska nya

[@smooches-the-deathmetal-bunny]

what people dont talk about with the "turn the other cheek" line is that it was illegal to strike slaves with the back of your hand. by turning the other cheek, you are baiting the abusive master into breaking the law and can then have them legally punished. the same holds true with "go the extra mile" because it was working yourself beyond what it is legal for someone to require of you and them having them punished for it.

[@turnercline3452]

This vid better have a scene of Contra in a Greek robe, wearing a blindfold, and swinging a scale or so help me.

[@tatsuya5888]

Omg, I'm so diwn for this

[@lilcarttheoneandonly]

maybe in part 2

[@LeftMouseButton961]

I regeret to inform you...

[@MeederC]

I'm upvoting this so she has to have it in part 2 #peerPressure

[@turnercline3452]

@@LeftMouseButton961 yeah, I finished the vid. It's essentially the same.

[@Dewderonomy]

It speaks volumes when the cringiest thing in this episode is the police and not the catgirl saying "nyah" and "uwu" at me.

[@cowboycreek]

i think u mean catwoman not catgirl

[@inannaenigma9391]

‘Head pats for head pats, nyah!!’ OwO

[@jessjose3638]

Its funny when you have some context. She routenly takes on personas in these videos, with different levels of irony. ♡ nyaa

[@KarishmaChanglani]

*catwoman. Sorry if that intimidates you.

[@disasterpiece6480]

What do you have against catgirls my dude?

[@seanandrewsimpson]

My mother was killed by a drunk driver when I was 19. At the time, I craved retributive justice but never got it. It's been many years since then, and every now and then it still makes me sad that she didn't get to see me grow up and become no longer a schmuck, and that she didn't get to meet her grandkids. Now... I honestly just hope the guy realized what he did wrong, felt some actual shame about it, got past whatever caused him to behave that way in the first place, and tried to live a better life and do good in the world. Maybe a pipe dream on my part, but that's what I see as real justice: people becoming better than they were.

[@Gigi_Ouija]

Sending love your way, friend.

[@katrianem2124]

I was bullied mercilessly as a kid. One of the ring leaders later dated and dumped one of my childhood best friends. She got texts from him saying where he was and had she shared them with his parents maybe he could have been saved but she laughed it off. Now, whilst I ignored her Facebook friend request I only felt pity for her at the funeral. It allowed me to forgive and forget trauma that still marks me today as well as her callus treatment of Colin. There’s nothing I could do or say that will ever beat that guilt she now lives with. And any residual frustration and pain I sometimes feel is better channeled into stopping other kids getting bullied or helping them deal with it.

[@MartinFeatherstone]

❤

[@violetbitch9492]

Yes, thank you. I'm so sorry for your loss, I can't even imagine how that felt. But I really do feel as if revenge is never a justified answer and I see a lot of people disagreeing which makes me rather sad.

[@Madhatter1781]

I'm sorry you have to carry that pain, friend 💜 My mom and I were abused by my brothers' dad, and he was/is easily the hardest person I will ever have to forgive. I can see the greater picture that shows me that his life was just as shitty if not way worse, and he got the shit beat outta him too. Does that make it right? Clearly no. But it does make it easier to understand, and to forgive. Now, don't get me wrong, forgiving him was so hard that it hurt me like grief does. It felt like a knife through my heart to even begin the forgiveness of someone that made Chris Brown's abuse of Rhianna pale in comparison. I wanted to kill him myself when I was young, it was like an almost overwhelming feeling of rage, and when I had look that feeling in the face, it's hard for a multitude of reasons. Having to give up on that rage is having to realize that you're wrong even about this, this thing that felt *so* right and just.

[@dinnerandmovie614]

I think I figured it out. We're waiting for justice, but justice never comes

[@NaumRusomarov]

omg. :-)

[@JE-ng4ty]

You're a goddamn genius

[@soaribb32]

Ugh...her mind.

[@maleineperle1770]

I'm schocked, you're a genius

[@deviateedits]

But envy comes often ;)

[@PeeperSnail]

Her right contact says cat girl nyaa, but the left contact screams goat girl bleeh

[@nozomashii821]

it's kinda cute to think about, cat eyes are predatory but goat eyes are prey, they serve different purposes much like how in revenge, the predator always becomes prey, and the predator of that prey will become prey prob didn't intend for that but y'kno

[@ConvincingPeople]

Goat girls~

[@nozomashii821]

@@ConvincingPeople the true top tier animal waifu, the satyr babe

[@nozomashii821]

@Tread Knought I don't see a man no where

[@katethegoat7507]

Goat girl here uwu

[@diywrites8703]

"Everything's fine." She says with one eye skewed sideways ... symbolism.

[@theocean1973]

“They ask you how you are and you just have to say that you’re fine, when you’re not really fine, but you just can’t get into it now because they wouldn’t understa-”

[@ksdtsubfil6840]

"A child"

[@friendoftheoyster3906]

This is all the media literacy I was taught in high school english class.

[@rhyderrek6155]

Simon Wilhelmy samesies

[@TetoLink]

Semiotics in the working

[@sanman-xe3fy]

I like how the lofi beats girl is in the background Still studying

[@TarantinosNightmare]

that lofi beats girl better have a fucking PhD by now

[@xcx000]

your pfp is sending me, i love ajay

[@Problematist]

The eternal punishment for being part of the school system

[@frocco7125]

I just saw it lmao

[@mollypocrass4562]

I didn't even notice her. She's my jam.

[@bernardoaraujo1049]

"they tried to make me go to rehab" "drug addicted petty criminals" hits so differently now. Hope ur doing ok and r holding on despite withdrawal.

[@sadnessofwildgoats]

?

[@bernardoaraujo1049]

@@sadnessofwildgoats She's recovering from addiction. I think there's an IG post of hers about it.

[@Billpro25]

@@bernardoaraujo1049 Didn't know that. Hope she's doing better.

[@radschele1815]

she did say she is doing "funny because it is true" jokes... Still it always hits hard when you learn the truth, at least for me. Still, of course best wishes to her, no matter if she has recovered or is still in care.

[@TheHawksEyeYT]

Therapist:"Catwoman Natalie isn't real, she can't hurt you!" Catwoman Natalie: (I)w(/)

[@StarberryPlacemats]

aadshgfdhfdsf this made me laugh irl

[@Dares9]

underrated comment sakjhdkjsada

[@surfboy1921]

It took me ten minutes to figure out why this was so funny

[@Niekard]

LMFAO. y e s

[@Travg1866]

Who is this dude dressed like a girl?

[@gildedgems]

i was watching this when my dad, a history teacher, walked by and stared at the screen for a while. i asked him if he was curious about what i was watching, and he asked me "is that hammurabi's code?" I, of course, said yes, as read by a catgirl -- sorry, catwoman. Then he stared at the screen for a little while longer before saying fair enough, and walking away.

[@kaylynn600]

☠☠☠

[@kisskissyangyang5252]

beautiful

[@Ant42Lee]

"fair enough" 😂

[@leaccrobatie7100]

your dad is awesome, go hug him

[@belladonna8425]

I just laughed so hard I snorted and scared the hell out of my cat. Your Dad is great.

[@TheLandOfDreams]

The way Natalie said heterosexual made me feel.....not that

[@lejabour]

Right?

[@pastelarcadia5890]

Nyatalie is out here handing out gay cards for free

[@shannonstrobel6727]

@@pastelarcadia5890 ooh ooh!! I want two so I can be double gay!

[@milicadamnjanovic1490]

Word. 🌋

[@oxherder9061]

I'm in crisis

[@davidwooden3878]

Natalie, I greatly admire your style. I've always been a huge fan of absurdist. And the idea of being taught important world topics by a cat girl-woman is simply a delight

[@alli7424]

I love that she kept her promise to unironically become Tabby

[@cbowd]

I'm concerned that she's in the process of keeping that promise, lol.

[@MrTuneslol]

I honestly live for this spiritual rebirth of tabby! Smash!

[@thephantomerik]

She didn't. Tabby is the one calling her and hissing at the end of the video.

[@thesquishedelf1301]

“I’m sorry that I can’t fix America. I’m just a lonely cat...” Deep in my soul, I felt that

[@akiraic]

he can't fix america because he's the broken part.

[@yakuzzi35]

This woman disappears for months on end and then just randomly comes back more beautiful than before

[@lindenm.9149]

There really was too long in this video that I was mesmerized by her lipgloss.

[@somedudeok1451]

He says commenting on a video where one of her eyes goes on a magical journey.

[@ensnaredbyflesh1030]

Takes a long time to plan, write and produce these videos

[@ensnaredbyflesh1030]

Habba Babba Yes, you got it. Woman. Good job.

[@ensnaredbyflesh1030]

Habba Babba He? There is no he. You are confused

[@wickedphant0m]

The fact that... in the "land of the free", that supposedly believes in "liberty and justice for all"... we have to CONSANTLY explain that agents of the state aren't supposed to execute you in the street for committing a misdemeanor.

[@cecilia5093]

Natalie dressed as a catgirl talking about police brutality while making cat puns is everything i needed and more

[@slothful2039]

Lol this sorta shows you guys aren't taking any of this seriously whatsoever.

[@MA-yu2ss]

@@d.w.stratton4078 Woah there Stratton

[@nosignal7156]

This video made me question my preference. less straight than I previously thought I would be.

[@TheMrQuepe]

catwoman*

[@colonnellomccandless4229]

Am I sensing some Witchfinder General vibes?

[@ConfidentlyUnsure]

If the movie Cats just had Nyatalie* running around yelling Nietzsche quotes at innocent bystanders, I'd pay good money to go see it. Edit: (Thanks Ben, for spotting my heinous crime.)

[@Myxinidae]

*Nyatalie

[@Jaspertine]

As would I, provided it's the butthole cut.

[@darkwindfish]

Nyatzsche

[@rageyboo007]

Nyietzsche*

[@Lionesse-z41553]

100

[@Nayru914]

Natalie's cat eye contacts this entire video: _"Catrapoints: Italicized"_

[@whatelseison8970]

It's actually kinda sad she thinks she needs that kind of kit to be a catty bitch. Don't shyortchange meiwself Nyatalie! miew miew! 😽

[@ToriTheChicken]

I've liked ContraPoints for a long time, but I honestly think embracing the "cringe" and just trying out catgirl is one of the best things she's done. It's a perfect fit for the channel and the video is great too.

[@chestersnap]

The suitors weren't even being rude to Odysseus, though. He was gone for _years_ . Everyone thought he was _dead_

[@BaldingClamydia]

It didn't matter at the time, but they were being rude to the wife. It does clearly state she didn't want them there, and didn't want to marry any of them.

[@solarprogeny6736]

nobody ever looked for him

[@BrieCheese]

@@BaldingClamydia Yes, Penelope did try to get out of this whole ordeal by unraveling her tapestry. But speaking of Penelope, didn't Odysseus cheat on her throughout the book?

[@BaldingClamydia]

@@BrieCheese Yes! The old double standards are at play here 😂

[@trollololol4601]

mechaguess killing his son would indeed be very rude

[@lauren8135]

"A lot of what Jesus says is sarcasm." LMAO That one was perhaps that hottest take of 2020.

[@ceejelly8783]

@@Dimitris_Half Imagine Jesus saying those things in a sarcastic tone. I guess she means a lot those love ur enemies things Jesus said can be taken as passive-agressive comments. Like, "turning the other cheek" while showing clearly that you absolutely do not approve of your wrongdoer. Kinda like, saying those thing with a vibe. You know, like "Very fine you dishonorable uncultured men, i shall forgive you because I am not as vile as u bloats"

[@ceejelly8783]

@@Dimitris_Half I think the basis may be how "unreasonable" the teaching is relating to our natural feeling toward our wrongdoers. I can't speak for Contrapoint, of course. But if we are to also discuss the value of her reading, I'm guessing there are 2 points: 1. It's one way to desensitizing the contempt you feel for your enemy, treating them like they are not worth your actual contempt. 2. Not all things Jesus says should be taken on a literral sense. Extra points (and most important to me tbh): It's a funny take on the Bible.

[@ThrottleKitty]

I think "passive aggressive" is the best way to describe it, over sarcastic. Coming from a Christian household, this is actually how most people seem to interrupt these teachings, deliberately or not. "Turn the other cheek" just means "Look down on people for not being as good as you, they'll get the idea" and "Love thy Neighbor" means "casually politely pester your neighbor to convert to Christianity every single day of their waking life".

[@spaceghost8995]

@@Dimitris_Half That's up to you to decide. If he wasn't being sarcastic , he was an idiot. (if he even existed, which I don't believe he did.)

[@DieEineMieze]

@@ThrottleKitty meow

[@vivi-er5dk]

natalie saying acab in a pretty catgirl outfit is my sexuality

[@thoticcusprime9309]

garbage sexuality I see

[@smoglin2369]

@@thoticcusprime9309 trans girl in your pfp

[@june29378]

@@thoticcusprime9309 Me clicking on this dude's profile only to see "Tiktok thot" videos of underage girls... I'd go off on you but you're not even worth the time edit: if you're reading this, please report them btw

[@j_II8]

@@thoticcusprime9309 Stop it. Get some help.

[@morgoth_bauglir]

@Waffle Stack it is comfirmed by the creator of the manga that ferris is a trans girl

[@inaraoftyria3878]

I absolutely adore philosophical discussions on the meaning of justice. My addiction to them started with an anime where someone took a potato chip and ate it.

[@junohawthorne7658]

I’ll take the potato chip… AND EAT IT

[@ShastraDugan]

I understood that reference

[@dwmooney]

Whenever Nyatalie includes a genuine smile or laugh it makes me feel things deep down inside and I have to interrupt the flow of the video to pause and replay them. Granted we're seeing a largely selective and manufactured impression of her through the videos here but you can't deny she is super fucking charming, talented, informative and downright gorgeous.

[@Jedislayer19]

She mommy af, my dude

[@worldkat1393]

Nyatalie*

[@sofi-vv1fr]

i- same whats up parasocial internet crush on natalie gang

[@MK-ex4fe]

I feel like the next “shame” is gonna be Natalie admitting that she’s an unironic cat woman

[@katewarner-clement7558]

The catspiricy.

[@BothHands1]

roflll

[@alexlyon7587]

Hopefully she wears a cat woman suit like from Batman 🥵🥵🥵

[@MrBaconNater]

She did star out by "ironically" cross dressings.

[@leonorf2730]

Didn't she say that before she realised she was trans she would take any opportunity to dress up as a woman "ironically"? It's 2020 Natalie, we are all going to die. Live your best nine lives.

[@kieranm1997]

"Welcome to Catgirl Bible Study nya!" And with that, you've piqued my interest in scripture more than my clergyman father ever could...

[@Werrick]

Any fan of comics would know and understand the dirty, abusive, murderous cops would be the first to experience the business end of Frank's gun. I have absolutely no idea why anyone, let alone cops would think that associating themselves with The Punisher is a good look.

[@concernedspectator]

Me, in my college Philosophy course: "eh... I'll do the reading later lol" Me, later: taking notes while watching Catrapoints

[@artemismoonbow2475]

College is wasted on the young and then when we are 40 and rethinking things at 3 AM, we're like, it would be cool to take some courses and actually do the work (Ok, I put in 70% effort, ugh, why do I still feel guilty?) and the realization hits that I am still paying student loans from the first time. Yeah, so what's on TV?

[@agstinacueva1673]

🤣

[@andrewbruckbauer6901]

Artemis Moonbow people act like community college wasn’t an option.

[@Hakajin]

I couldn't take Philosophy because it gave me wicked anxiety, but Natalie? Natalie I'll take any day.

[@gengiz80]

@@artemismoonbow2475 or it could be poorly college is poorly structured, we're not preparing undeveloped brains for the intensity of the information, etc, etc.

[@gororo9380]

"Contrapoints upped a video. My day just got bett-" "Part 1" AWWW YESSS.

[@Sl1mch1ckens]

I was excited by the part one but then i remembered her upload schedule and im not vibing now haha

[@emilykemp1068]

@@Sl1mch1ckens just do what the rest of the fangirls do and watch her other videos til you memorize them. Why was I watching her live channel at 2 am? I have a problem.

[@Sl1mch1ckens]

@@emilykemp1068 my fanboy ass already rewatches them on the regular BUT I NEED MORE

[@LiamMcEvoy]

She said ⬆👄↗ and we love to see it.

[@coffeequoh]

Icons stan icons

[@anfisachern8570]

i choked

[@GBPFootballClub]

Lol came to the comments looking for something like this. Well done

[@kittypower7431]

LIAMM I HAVE BEEN WATCHING YOU FOR OVER A YEAR ILYY 💕💕

[@fishtickler05]

hi liam ❤️

[@Ididathing]

I dont know about America but in Australia our cops have been known to run naked through the sewers.

[@kshitijsharma2200]

Was howtobasic a police officer? He seems like a guy who would run through the sewers naked. Nice KZbin channel BTW. Magpies are cool.

[@bluecats6238]

I always thought you would be here lol

[@cezarcatalin1406]

WAIT... YOU HAVE ALLIGATORS IN THE POLICE FORCE ? FLORIDA IS PART OF AUSTRALIA CONFIRMED

[@planetofthesnapes1209]

You always show up whenever I least expect it.

[@andrewwestfall65]

@@cezarcatalin1406 They're the only ones that can survive it

[@BarbarianGod]

Some contacts are slightly weighted so they don't roll around quite as much, might want to look into that, I think the technical term is "Prism Ballast Lenses" and it's used for certain types of astigmatism that have a.. directional component or something, in my language it's just called a "cylinder value". Also I see you there "lofi hip hop radio - beats to relax/study to" illustration/animation by Juan Pablo Machado!

[@theangrycheeto]

Let's play a game of spot the optician

[@andresconrado]

Yeah but consider: Goat eyes.

[@Myst165]

Whenever I see the posts on r/JusticeServed I always think of this quote from Gandalf in Lord of the Rings: “Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement.”

[@RyanStorey1231]

Whoa, that is profound. I love that.

[@amaryllis0]

I like how that quote sounds, but it's not good to quote it here Gandalf is saying that some people deserve death, but that you shouldn't kill them despite that (for unclear reasons I won't go into despite probably disagreeing with the logic) So if you're agreeing with him and applying it to /r/JusticeServed, you're saying that the people posted there on whom death is wished do in fact deserve death, which is pretty fucked up of you

[@kirbyppg]

I FORGOT ABOUT THIS QUOTE THANK YOU SO MUCH

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

"Even the very wise cannot see all ends."

[@Myst165]

​@@amaryllis0 Ah, I think you're right.

[@digbyroberts2161]

Rewatching 8 months later and still waiting for a continuation of that damn cliffhanger. Love you Natalie

[@dac518]

I cryyyyy

[@QuestionEverythingButWHY]

"Be careful not to measure your holiness by other people's sins." -- Martin Luther

[@StalkingRainbow]

MLK calling out whataboutism before it was cool

[@BRAVOOUT1]

@@StalkingRainbow I'm pretty sure it's the OG Martin Luther, not MLK quote

[@l33tnobody1337]

You do know that Martin Luther was a pretty hardcore anti-semite right? If not then you should read this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_and_antisemitism

[@durnsidh6483]

@@l33tnobody1337 ok, but that is not pertinent to the current context, unless the quote was made in the middle of an antisemitic text/speech.

[@kerricklogan3801]

@@l33tnobody1337 Why does that matter? The quote is still a good thing to understand no matter whom said it.

[@maxm7584]

Police: put skull stickers on everything Also police: “why don’t people trust us?”

[@nickbell8353]

The only people who trust them are the ones who are as bloodthirsty as they are.

[@A3RAS]

"Are we the baddies?"

[@UsenameTakenWasTaken]

@@A3RAS I came here specifically for that comment.

[@Ex0dus111]

@SoggyShrimp Yes, Believing black lives should actually matter, or that we should be against fascism... What horrible ideas.

[@Ex0dus111]

@SoggyShrimp No that is literally what those movements are about, and also the only thing they are about. I understand you've been subjected to lots of propaganda that says otherwise, and you are generally a weak person, but that's just what happens when you fight power.

[@WattsTheSafeword]

NYYYAAAAAAAAA?!?

[@nanakigamer9852]

Hi guys!! Edit: soooo... The video is about punishment and Cat people, It makes sense seeing you at this comment board

[@poofballoon]

😂😂😂

[@ianbrowning2190]

this channel is so continually charming and admirable

[@RolyWestYT]

I felt second hand annoyance from the contacts twisting! As soon as I saw them I was thinking god she’s in for some fun with them haha 😂😉

[@rowanhollingsworth5231]

I've had to rewind more times than I'd like to admit, all because I was too busy screeching at the contacts moving...

[@M-CH_]

Reminded me of Polish tv series based on The Witcher. Netflix were smart enough to do away with slanted pupils.

[@danielsantos-wh2op]

I saw you on hunter Avalon’s video other day, you are on the best videos man

[@SoniaSephia]

OMG Roly is ContraPoints fan!!! FAN FICTION TIME!!!

[@444angelina]

just when I thought I couldnt love you more, you watch contrapoints!!!!

[@I34VVI3U5]

"Let's stick to tradition and begin by examining the skull" Half a minute in and the video was already worth the wait!

[@skeetsmcgrew3282]

The punisher has a Chad skull x10

[@trollololol4601]

Skeets McGrew as a heterosexual women the Chad skull is definitely what I look for in a man

[@Hotshot2k4]

I actually failed to catch that joke, thanks for bringing it to my attention, haha

[@inaworldfulloftrashbagsbet2023]

*IT MUST BE REMARKED*

[@hrnekbezucha]

The subtle touch of having the lofi girl framed as a painting is just brilliant.

[@soulmechanics7946]

I love it.😍

[@LucianCorrvinus]

I don't know what that is, and Im to old to really want to know....Im out.

[@chelseakelley2962]

Having study beats framed while Natalie drops knowledge. 👏

[@sigmavitali333]

Adam K Wrong. You’re wrong

[@paineoftheworld]

huh-yehhaaa

[@thelyonking5812]

28:34 have to agree as someone who is a practicing Catholic and went to Catholic school. In my theology class we read the Bible and analyzed the verses. Luckily I had a very based teacher, young dude who was freshly graduated from Duke and liked to complain about all his student loan debts and talked about drinking whiskey and smoking cigarettes when he got home. Anyways, he was well educated and understood the Bible well. His interpretation of this verse from Matthew was almost the exact same. For historical context, in these times you would use your right hand for everything and only use your left hand for dirty things like wiping your ass or touching your genitalia. By turning the other cheek, you force the person hitting you to either use the wrong hand and disgrace themselves or to give up. It’s actually a verse about resisting oppression and nonviolent resistance. It is followed by the famous verse about walking with someone for 2 miles if forced to walk 1. This is actually about abusing the Roman legal system against Roman soldiers. Roman soldiers (in charge of Judea during Bible times) had strict rules. They could force someone to carry things for them for up to a mile, but if they went over the mile the soldier would face harsh punishment. By going the extra mile you have just completely fucked over the Roman soldier oppressing you and forcing you to do labor for him, it’s another form of nonviolent resistance. Of course without this historical contexts the verses seem to suggest total pacifism without any resistance, but obviously that’s stupid. My theology teacher was of the belief that Christians are called to be strict pacifists, but to always resist oppression and to speak out in favor of marginalized groups, hence why he had pictures of him at BLM protests hung on his walls. Anyways great video even though I’m 3 years late💀

[@jadenjerries2094]

your teacher was very based, props to him.

[@poppyEars]

"a preachy lib you may have heard of called Jesus of Nazareth"

[@juanpablorobayo3437]

We Stan

[@morgoth_bauglir]

Christian anarchists be like: "based"

[@ariadneschulz8822]

Ooh, it looks like no one mentioned this yet. The "turn the other cheek" passage is actually a bit more passive aggressive than you're depicting. The Romans would go around backhanding people they didn't respect, but when a Roman entered a legion he would be slapped across the face as part of the ceremony to admit him. Romans were weird. Anyways, being slapped by the palm of the hand became a sign of respect while a backhand was disrespect. If you "turn the other cheek" after being backhanded you are forcing or daring your attacker to hit you with the palm of their hand which for Romans who in this context would be doing most of the slapping, meant they would be acknowledging you not just as a person worthy of respect but their peer and equal.

[@Artechiza]

I saw this on another comment but I didn't understand it, as it wasn't very well redacted. Now with yours everything is much more clear, so thank you~

[@appletree6898]

Oh wow, mind blown!

[@ByeBaybe]

With so many different versions of the Bible, Testaments, and the cultural differences it's not a surprise to me why people have lost the meaning of these passages. I guess 'blind faith' makes sense when one does not educate themself.

[@tomvanlieshout5634]

The two other pacifist passages are also fascinating. "If someone sues you and takes your coat, you should give your shirt too." So you're just standing there naked before the jury, being like: are you guys happy now? "And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go two miles." Roman soldiers were allowed to force civilians to carry their stuff for a mile. So if you follow them for two miles, they'll actually get in trouble for breaking the law.

[@annieinwonderland]

Also what would Jesus do? slogans to be passive forgot about Jesus getting pissed off a the money lender in the temple..

[@Bentley109]

"Aging bargain bin Belle Delphine impersonator" is the heading on my resume

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

Found some of em punisher movies from the bargain bin lolz. Love that bargain bin!

[@ericsloss5136]

Oh my God it's the National Selleck guy, I'm such a huge fan 😍

[@zieteniere7500]

You're hired

[@vokkera6995]

If I had a nickel for every time a trans philosopher woman made a thorough video assessing the nature of state-monopolized violence, I’d have two nickels. Which is pretty cool.

[@CPickswell]

ok, the "Rehab" joke really killed me. "they said I should go to rehab, I said 'nya, nya, nya'"

[@micaela_hb]

In the 70s there was a military dictatorship in my country (one of many, mind you) and THE saying that help people "understand" why their neighbors were being kidnapped and never came back was "Algo habrán hecho" ("They must have do something"). Spoiler alert: in 99% of the cases they did nothing wrong to deserve that. People still use that phrase any time police harms or kills someone without motive

[@yoavsnake]

+

[@verybarebones]

Its the same thought process behind victim blaming. "I need to think this is fair and based on the victim's actions to reassure myself that with my own actions i can avoid the same fate"

[@FormedDrip0]

The justification of murder by police brutality based on the "flaws" of the person is almost universal across countries: "Tampoco eran blancas palomas" (I'm sure they weren't white doves). The essentialism of this argument reminds me of some of the ideas of another Contrapoints video...

[@Applefanbella]

are you from Argentina? because that's the exact case of my country lol

[@micaela_hb]

@@Applefanbella yes I am :)

[@michikomanalang6733]

Natalie's contact said, "Wouldst thou like to live deliciously"

[@XRXaholic]

Yes. Waiting patiently for the Dark Mother to show up.

[@joshhorley2116]

Something something 'twirling towards freedom '

[@myrusgalled8468]

Love that scene

[@idratherbewithmycatrightnow]

I rewatch this a lot, I'm so pumped for part 2

[@DebbieGarciaa]

I support Nat's journey of getting radicalized and going full cat girl.

[@AKitty-rn7nl]

meow too

[@Solid--Snake]

*catwoman

[@ScorpionViper1001]

Me, a weeaboo looking at anime catgirls: I sleep Me seeing catgirl Nyatalie: R E A L S H I T

[@alexanderclosson4729]

Cat girl is a SLUR.They are Nekos

[@bisma1352]

She said in a video years ago that she will become tabby unironically depending on what happens in 2020 so 👀🕵️

[@jacksonporter6720]

“Big government anarchist” the humor that goes into the writing is too good

[@oliverhealey5098]

fun fact, to put "turn the other cheek" into historical context: hitting someone on the right cheek was what you did to someone inferior. so by "turning the other cheek" jesus was basically saying "hit me as your equal. i dare you."

[@fairycat23]

Thank you for bringing this up!!

[@richardengels2307]

or Christianity was meant to convince the powerless to submit to their fate as victims of suppression, poverty and violence.

[@jenbdiamond]

Hitting someone on the right cheek means you backhanded them.

[@dontpanic1812]

That's actually interesting. It's actually part public shaming and part passive aggressiveness. It's also a way for the oppressed to defend themselves by speaking truth to power. Likely, they'd just get hit by an overhand left, knocking them unconscious and be dragged away, but ya never know. So. What would it mean if someone took them up on their offer and they struck their inferior's left cheek? Is the status of that person then elevated to that of an equal, granting them the rights to act as one? Would it be giving them permission to strike back if they wanted, similar to how rank is sort of dropped when a soldier's given permission to speak freely? If they then struck back as an equal, which cheek do they strike? The right one might be poetic, but instead of debasing them with the insult, it likely would only anger them further. The left would might be respectful and reciprocal, but isn't that punitive and would likely just do the same. Maybe, just sock 'em in the nose, eye or chin and knock 'em out, putting an end to the matter? As an equal, they'd not be punished as an inferior. Maybe, do nothing still, letting them stew in their shame? Wouldn't that still just lead an enemy to want vengeance for being humiliated? How long would such an elevation last then? A week? Forever whenever the two are in the presence of one another? How's that not still lead to a Hatfield and McCoys scenario of unending bloodshed and violence? Don't see there being much of a chance of this ending in two equals having a few beers after a fight, respecting each other for standing up for themselves.

[@jasonwelle]

Yes, because if hitting someone on the right cheek is backslapping them. So stand up for yourself and dare them to hit you with their palm.

[@lalitthapa101]

Seen these retributive justice merchants a lot. Especially here in India. People advocate hell treatment like mutilation,killing etc but then just leave it at that. The constant rapes in India Is a much bigger issue of a woman's position & treatment she gets in the rigid Indian society. Things like getting societal change,policy & reform in the justice system should be discussed but ofc that never happens. The "kill the criminal" take is a cheap exit. I mean "we killed the criminal,surely the crime will disappear as well. ( I highly recommend the quint documentary they did on Haryana & its rape cases. Perfectly shows the attitude of Indian society overall. Its horrible.)

[@sophiedelpas6218]

What is the documentary name?

[@lalitthapa101]

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[@christophersnedeker]

That's why we need limits on what kinds of punishment can be enforced and a sense of proportion.

[@alloisadino]

hey so y'all remember when she said she'd turn into tabby the cat girl if they tried to delay elections 👀

[@atrapdr6251]

Cat WOMAN, sheesh

[@cezarcatalin1406]

WE NEED TABBY TABBY IS THE BEST

[@xavierzabie8184]

Wait when did she say that? I was so confused as to why she did this lol

[@matteussilvestre8583]

@@xavierzabie8184 Time to binge some Contra videos

[@xavierzabie8184]

@@matteussilvestre8583 I mean I have but she had to say recently. Probably cringe

[@YoArtem]

The worst part about Odysseus is that as he gets "lost" on the way home for literally a million years and he ends up sleeping with all these women who "bewich" him while doing so no one bats an eye. Then he gets home and kills all the "disrespectful" guys for "disrespecting" his wifey ummm excuse me Odysseus projection much??

[@vedantthapar3666]

GASP! The extremely sexist ancient Greeks were sexist! How is this possible?!

[@fedeonio555]

He's not supposed to be a flawless hero, also he really gets lost and forced to stay whit people Idk maybe this was a joke and I'm stupid

[@scoreboredgaming]

I got the impression he wasn't so much "bewitched" as in fear for his life from the goddess who kept him imprisoned. I think I remember him literally crying on the beach begging to be allowed to go home.

[@evattmab]

@@vedantthapar3666 lol on you trying to find something to accuse ancient Greeks of.

[@vedantthapar3666]

@@evattmab are you trying to imply that they WEREN’T sexist? If so, you’re either wilfully ignorant or deliberately lying. The Greeks had a lot wrong with them, sexism, slavery, Aristotelian thought, oligarchic authority and racism, to name a few. Their entire economy was predicated on slave labour. Athens is laughably called ‘the cradle of democracy’ when only the slave-owners (less than 20% of the population) could vote. That’s not to say the ancient Greeks were bad. They’re a civilisation that did both good and bad things. Here however, I’m focusing only on the bad because that’s what is relevant.

[@breadinacan2460]

I think that I love you. I avoided your channel for years, as my introduction to politics was the 2016 election, and I was more conservative at the time. Your videos are so much more than I expected, even now that I've become a lot more progressive. You are so well spoken and funny. I can't even describe how glad I am I finally took the plunge and watched your videos. Seriously, great work. I'm so impressed with your channel.

[@xyzyzx1253]

Nice

[@gibdopaminepls]

are you ancom yet? cmon, we're waiting for ya, we got the van and the gang ready, gonna get some micky d's, then smash the state

[@paddyokearney]

@@gibdopaminepls Micky D's is a capitalist enterprise, you wanna grab some ancom fast food, Burger King is yer dispenser... It's right there in Goodbye Lenin.

[@gibdopaminepls]

@@paddyokearney who says we're payin

[@paddyokearney]

@@gibdopaminepls a fair point.

[@ActiveAdvocate1]

I assume you've read Margaret Atwood's "Penelopeiad"? Really good story: it's the "Odyssey" from Penelope's perspective. But the whole idea behind killing the suitors was to do with the hospitality laws of the time. You DID NOT disrespect your host, who, in this case, was technically Telemachus, Odysseus' son. Zeus was the god of hospitality, a well as the king of the gods, so an affront from EITHER party--host or guests--was considered an affront on the gods. The laws wee, pretty much cross the entire known world at the time, that you as the host were required to provide anyone who came to you with a meal, a bath, and, if they wanted it, a bed for the night. As the guest, you were required to be polite, to make payment of SOME kind, even if you only sang them a song or told them a story, and, obviously, not to violate anyone or anything in the house. To be fair, Telemachus went above and beyond for these people, but he would have been WELL within his rights just to kick them out, given how many times over they had violated the hospitality laws. But then, of course, when Odysseus gets back--and let's not forget that the suitors did TRY to kill Telemachus--Odysseus is naturally pissed, and he's kind of supposed to be the avenger of Zeus himself, because, like I said, you violate these laws, you violate Zeus. HOWEVER, killing the slave girls is going too far. Even though they would have been considered Odysseus' and Telemachus' property, they were PROBABLY raped. The text doesn't ay outright that they were, but they PROBABLY were. These guys would go to the house and get drunk every night, after all, and there were a LOT of them, over one hundred. Even if it's only one dude out of those hundred, you know?

[@Valkyrie9000]

Drinking game: drink every time one of Catalie's contacts turns, but you have to lean at the same angle. I call it Meowcrosoft Flight Simulator

[@MrZauberelefant]

THAT IS PURE GOLD

[@sopphi]

What do I do when the contacts lean in different directions?

[@ayeguyy779]

@@sopphi twist

[@temmietemmieson6756]

*Nya-talie

[@jackboot8432]

Or is that Flight Stimulator?