Nightwing VS Red Hood | WHO WOULD WIN?

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

The real question: who are you main-ing in Gotham Knights???

[@HittoTheAssassin]

Damien Wayne

[@revan0890]

I'm going to main Tim when I finally buy the game.

[@hotfuzzy153]

Nightwing he's the best

[@jordanbraden4043]

Nightwing

[@kordellpurnell6207]

@@hotfuzzy153 exactly but not for awhile for this guy tho still pissed this only came out for Next Gen😒

[@johnredlacatan5940]

Nightwing: Batman's idealism personified Red hood: Batman's aggression personified.

[@Artryom]

Nightwing: Batman’s idealism personified Red hood: The opposite of Batman’s idealism personified a yin-yang to Batman…

[@That80sGuy1972]

That's actually a great comparison... and probably the best "save" for Jason Todd.

[@Elberich1]

Damien: Batman's nut personified.

[@99thJediWarrior]

One represents what Batman must do to for Gotham, the other represents what Batman wants to do to criminals... spot on, man.

[@gabrielcastejon7914]

@@Elberich1 🤣

[@backupschmliff1156]

Am I the only one who favors when legacy characters surpass their mentors? Nightwing to Batman, Superboy to Superman, Wally West to Barry Allen, etc.

[@Andrei9C]

red hood is still the best imo

[@naeemsolomons3645]

this guy just floors jasons victories and says it isnt skill...jason clearly is the stronger fighter

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

Nope

[@naeemsolomons3645]

@@CRISIS_COMICS we shouldn't go by who they beat...we should look at how strong they are compared to each other...like Jason has a more aggressive and trained fight style compared to dick...so he should win the fight

[@NoJusticeNoPeace]

Red Hood is more likely to use dirty tricks. While Nightwing probably has better skills, a street fight with no holds barred is definitely Red Hood's turf, especially with Red Hood's willingness to use every advantage like mainlining Venom, using poisoned weapons, etc. Any real fight rather than sparring match goes to Red Hood.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

U didn’t watch the video

[@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225]

Pretty sure Nightwing has beaten Jason in multiple real fights

[@sageviper2981]

So what I’m getting from this video is that Jason has confidence issues. Like you can just chalk it up to plot armor and the overarching story but it seems that he just doesn’t see himself as others do. Which is kinda sad 😢 cause he’s really so much more

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

I think it's more so fans wanting him to be a certain way because he's a cool/edgy gun man but comic narratives are always going to uphold the more consistently contemporary righteous characters.

[@felixthewolf7147]

@@CRISIS_COMICS even tho it takes away so much of their power and unique traits and end up just batman reskins

[@WWMK05]

@@felixthewolf7147 I agree the reason I love Jason and Damien is because they went against Bruce’s ideology with them not minding killing criminals and made Bruce’s characteristics come out even more but of course DC has their favorite characters and it happens to be Dick.

[@GMP1isReal]

I always feel bad for Jason. So many stories just have him get his ass beat to make other characters look good, and feels like he only got to shine as a villain in Under the Red Hood.

[@WWMK05]

Facts and it’s a shame

[@lilsinistercrow3184]

on god kinda pisses me off

[@kaygarcia3077]

I think they are building him up for something. I want them you polish his design more though, have him stand out more both with the suit and with out it.

[@lahkooky504westside3]

Nightwing fans: first time?

[@jxlennn]

It’s the other way around. They literally downgrade characters just to make Jason look cool or better. Like in outlaws they forced him to have a relationship with starfire just to make him look cool when it did nothing for her character and she’s much better with Nightwing and being on Nightwing’s team. Same for Roy Harper he grew up with Dick Grayson but the writers forced him to join the Outlaws even though he has much better dynamics with the Titans.

[@dustindodge4670]

I feel that jason todd is treated by the comic writers as the red headed step child of the bat family.

[@Darthvegeta8000]

Probably why together with Azrael is my favorutie.

[@garretthoneycutt6353]

Because he is technically

[@masonpiatt-villasenor686]

It's offensive to call Jason red headed, Yknow after what the joker did to his face... and his head lol

[@No-ny3co]

I mean he is the red headed step child of the batfamily Jason is canonically a red head

[@That80sGuy1972]

To be fair, metaphorically speaking, he is pretty much that. Also, the "^sshole son".

[@OurKindofEntertainment]

I always look at fights like this a certain way: which character can defeat much stronger opponents while restraining themselves by NOT using lethal force? That's usually the character who can and will win IF all bets are off and it's a 'death battle' situation. I think about Son of Batman (animated film) when Nightwing was able to defeat Damian when they first met. The little brat was clearly using lethal force due to the MANY slashes he got on Dick with his sword. However, the former boy wonder was able to restrain him by tying him up and hang him from a streetlight. If Nightwing WASN'T holding back, he could've killed Damian no problem.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

That movie sucks and isn’t comic accurate

[@Aakash-tg1uk]

@@CRISIS_COMICS true, considering how often they nerf everyone for the sake of the plot (even batman wasn't spared) and how overpowered damien is. Not to mention how often nightwing broke his shoulder (someone even made a compilation of it in KZbin) .

[@OurKindofEntertainment]

@@Aakash-tg1uk Yo, Nightwing got done so dirty in ALL of those DC animated movies from that New 52 universe it was pathetic!

[@OurKindofEntertainment]

@@CRISIS_COMICS True and Damian got more plot armor than Master Roshi and Krillin did during the Tournament of Power arc in Dragon Ball Super. Seriously, Damain besting Deathstroke?!

[@elijahcesar4149]

@@CRISIS_COMICS not the point it has been proven and your vid states nightwing. IS ALWAYS HOLDING BACK. Yes in that situation if he wanted to he woulda def killed damian... So what are you talking about accurate or not.

[@davidpap5369]

I knew Nightwing had this in the bag, but I really appreciate the extensive analysis. How about one for Tim and Damian?

[@CommanderShepard-wq3wo]

I’d put my money on Damian as he’s been trained to be a much more deadlier fighter than Tim could ever dream of. Damian was trained by Ra’s, Talia, and the League of Assassins pretty much from the moment he could walk. Then by Batman. The thing that Tim has over all the other Robins, is his tactical mind and detective skills as they’re on par if not better than Batman. Ra’s respects him so much on this skill set that he’s called Tim “detective” something that Ra’s calls Batman with the highest of respects. Still, I too would like to see him cover those two in a video

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

@@NOGIMAD ☝️how to tell someone didn’t watch the video

[@H34rtofFire]

And all of 'em would get rocked by Cassandra. With Damien putting up the biggest fight.

[@ccraft00]

@@NOGIMAD nightwing is faster and more athletic than Jason. Not only that but nightwing has beaten Jason when Jason was trying to kill him. And nightwing has fought ra’s Al ghul and death stroke when they were trying to kill him, and beat Batman when he was not going to hold back

[@ccraft00]

@@NOGIMAD meanwhile Jason has seen that when Bruce isn’t holding back he can’t handle him. I agree it won’t be an easy fight but Jason isn’t much bigger than Dick and isn’t much stronger post venom.

[@carlgraham9526]

I can't be the only one that's both amused and annoyed by the fact Jason is no longer the only member of the bat family that died, he doesn't even have the Robin who died title. Literally the most important part of his character, can now be applied to Nightwing, Damien, I'm sure Tim os going to bite the bucket at some point if he hasn't already

[@Artryom]

He’s now the magician Robin who died, aka The All-caste arc and Gotham knights now and Lazarus mess…. Better than Speedy himbo nice Robin like Nightwing non-fans believe… used to be Golden boy Robin.

[@MateusDrake]

Tim kinda died after "A Lonely Place of Living" (Detective Comics first post-Rebirth arc, IIRC), when he had to make a sacrifice play and got gunned down by drones. The New 52 Teen Titans mourned him, same goes for Steph, the bat-family and specially Bruce. Then it was revealed that it was actually Dr. Oz (who, spoiler alert, was Jor-El of all people all along...) who had made him prisoner for reasons. Now, besides Forever Evil and Ric Grayson, I don't think Dick has died, been mourned, etc. Even while he was Ric, he was alive and well, and kinda happy.

[@carlgraham9526]

@@MateusDrake I haven't kept up with the comics for a while, but was there not a justice league story were Dick was hooked up to a machine, his heart stopped and was resuscitated, lex luthur was there but don't remember his role

[@huntertezz]

@@Artryom He kinda lost that as well. Looks like Damian is gonna be the magic Robin. Damian also got the record for the most deaths.

[@Artryom]

@@carlgraham9526 That was forever evil like he was referring to... And besides that, Dick hasn't died much, even then he didn't technically die tho but faked his death.

[@Qolumbo926]

Nightwing is arguably better than Batman. He's that guy, for real. I'd like to see a video of you ranking the best martial artists in DC.

[@angelocadena7094]

he is. bats agrees.

[@hugejackedman3447]

Was gonna comment this as well but wanted to see if someone else did first.

[@tchoythao1730]

He already beat Bats in a fight. He also already beat Jason. Pretty sure Jason was tryna kill him and he just whooped him.

[@CAGAT25]

@@honorwithoutlaw bruce actually did not. though i do believe that batman will beat nightwing like 6 out of 10 times due to superior equipment,tech and more, i do believe that Dick Grayson beats Bruce wayne H2H no weapons.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

@@honorwithoutlaw Watch the video, Bats went all out per the author

[@jamesrocco7701]

One thing that sets Nightwing apart from every other member including Batman is he is a prodigious athlete, and yes this does make a difference in his ability to learn and master physically faster than even an average or excellent athlete. Its been stated he is the worlds greatest acrobat. Speed, agility, strength, dexterity, balance, coordination and more go into this you could literally look at every male gold metal gymnast and combine that into him. When all of this is combined with a martial artist whos been doing it for more than half his life, dude I'm out, ill just lay here.

[@crazyscotsman9327]

Reminds me of the thug who just turned around when he saw Batman. It's how I'd act if they Batfamily were about to kick my ass. I'd just lay down and be like. "Ok you got me. I don't want this smoke."

[@MasterIceyy]

Also Dick was the youngest Robin, starting at 8 years old. Jason at 12, Tim at 13. Those additional years of training in his most formative years gives him such a significant advantage over Jason and Tim. That large of a skill, talent, experience, and training gap would just be incredibly difficult to over come. Also Dick even being the one to become and take over the Batman mantle, as he's the true embodiment of the legacy

[@HamgeekGaming]

"The batfamily are all melodramatic dorks" is probably the best way to sum up so much of the Bat group events, lmfao

[@jocoolshow]

I know this is about Nightwing and Red Hood, but it does make me wonder how strong and skilled of a fighter Tim Drake actually is in the grand scheme of things

[@bernardabang4107]

He is decent but below Nightwing and Red Hood by miles. He is the best detective of them all.

[@Kezexclusive]

If he had similar strength to them I think he’d win but as of now nah

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

@@Kezexclusive Future Tim says he’d never be as skilled

[@Oataro]

Tim is like the weakest in terms of fighting ability don’t get me wrong he is skilled but his intelligence makes up for it although the other members of the bat-family would destroy him in a fight of just fighting ability

[@jlpgamin]

Tim as a whole is a good fighter but he's also a strategic genius. In comics he's beaten Lady Shiva twice and close to stalemated Cassandra Cain

[@mithatbilgi8199]

Great video! Though, I don't think people really give enough credit to Red Hood's resourcefulness and sheer will and determination, if each Robin represents a different aspect of Batman (Dick being the light-hearted JL-type superhero Batman, Tim being the world's greatest detective, and Damian being the esoteric assassin side of Batman), Jason is the man who never quits, never gives up, and is able to scrounge up and find resources for whatever he needs to do no matter what, and while he absolutely would still probably need further strategic and tactical training and further growth as a character, I think he has the potential of being the only other human who could take out a rogue Superman other than Batman tbh. I'd say that Dick's victory, which yeah is likelier as it is, relies on him being able to take Jason down quickly, but the longer the fight goes on for the more the balances would tip in Jason's favor as Jason being leaner vs Dick being faster would likely lead to Dick getting tired more quickly, and Jason's determination and resourcefulness would come in more and more into play, bearing in mind that this man dug himself out of his own grave, he would not give up unless he's forced to. ie, Jason does stand a better chance if he is able to drag out the fight. Also, in a fight Jason being able to pull a gun right before Dick can subdue him isn't just "having guns", that's quick thinking and resourcefulness, he can make the best of whatever shitty situation he's put into very quickly, and that's skill tbh. Will say, Jason's biggest weakness is not having like cohesive plans/strategies and tactics imo, which is ironically the opposite of Tim Drake p much, but if he had that he would genuinely be much more capable on the whole.

[@juanjuan4119]

i will disagree with you on jason not having plans/strategies he orchestrated and manipulated black mask into freeing the joker of cource his plans and tatics arent anything like tims but to say he dosnt have any is crazy ngl

[@viveknag47]

Actually it is Dick who never gives up. Literally Dick was one of the guys shortlisted for Green Lantern. Dick has several feats of willpower in comics. Dick once hunted Two-Face without sleeping for 4 days. Dick carried a baby through a desert when Midnighter couldn't handle the situation. Dick has resistance to fear toxin. Raven couldn't read Dick's mind. Dick has resisted several mind readers. Dick resisted Brother Blood's mind control. Jason meanwhile doesn't have that willpower and control. That's why he killed almost a 100 prisoners because he was bored.

[@BlazerK1914]

Nightwing: "No killing, got it?" Red Hood: "Sure." *shoots a thug* Nightwing: "Damn it, Jason!"

[@AnimeMLG]

I bet he will say “What? He’s just sleeping…“

[@BlazerK1914]

@@AnimeMLG 😂

[@ilanavishay1508]

Damn it, Damian

[@Jason_H_Martitinez]

I didn't do nothing 😡

[@JustinOwenthebeardedginger]

Red Hood: "Calm down, Grayson, it's only a rubber bullet."

[@quanahabshire7066]

They've been nerfing Jason since under the red hood. It's so annoying, make him a villain again

[@dc7981]

I think Jason is a reverse Venom in that he arguably works better as a villain

[@meadow5178]

jason is more of a anti-hero

[@dc7981]

@@meadow5178 yeah but he started out as an anti hero/villain hybrid

[@caldeandrade69]

Another thing that really benefitted Nightwing in being a better fighter than Red Hood is his training with the Titans, Teen Titans and the Young Justice. Nightwing is always training with his team mates who are metahumans or alien powerhouses. To Nightwing, guns and being lethal is nothing new.

[@ahop3807]

Young justice is not comic canon

[@a.c.slater7989]

There’s a comic where Dick was analyzing his Allies and showed how he could take them down like Batman. Batman even said his destiny is to lead the Justice League

[@theredscum4202]

@@ahop3807 damn you either a fancy or dense. You realize in the comics he's trained with metahumans. Which Young Justice takes things from the comic books so did what kind of defense your statement is other than to reveal you mad butthurt

[@pablopersonal7693]

Jason would definately splatter Nightwing, feel like people haven’t read some of his comics he is smart witty n knows how to outsmart way bigger opponents n doesn’t hold back he can easily take out Nightwing if Nightwing were to be mad

[@theredscum4202]

@@pablopersonal7693 it seems like it I'd you skipping the books Dick beats Jason multiple times

[@ajjackson100]

Looking at narratives from different stories to “me” shouldn’t factor as who would win in a fight between characters. Of course Dick looks better on paper because he’s had “several” books dedicated to him, same as Batman. The person who wins a fight in a comic is the person that writer wants to win. For me it’s feats. There indisputable. Like for example: Nightwing is literally the best none powered acrobat on earth, he literally can do moves that no one else can, or Jason’s All-Blades cutting through Robots in one issue and Spirits in the next, or Demons and Aliens. The point I’m trying make is you should use feats removed from narrative to determine who’d win. None of this holding back crap nonsense. Of course dick held back he didn’t feel like hurting whoever, or of course Jason’s holding back because if he aimed like he does when he actually kills another human the human dies. To me I think in a hand to hand Fight dick Grayson wins. But in a actual scenario where Jason is actually trying to kill dick he most likely would.

[@peteryeter892]

did you watch the full video? Red hood said that up until a time he was actively trying to kill Dick everytime they met up and still couldn't, Jason has that killer edge and strength on Dick but literally every other aspect is lacking compared to him, Nightwing is widely considered the most skilled fighter out of all the robins and has shown several times that he can and will take down Jason if need be.

[@ajjackson100]

@@peteryeter892 that’s the Narrative I was talking about. It shouldn’t matter what Nightwing thinks or says. Because you know there’s stories where he’s lost to something he shouldn’t have, or beat someone he shouldn’t have. Just recently he lost an altercation against blockbuster, even though he’s beaten blockbuster in many stories. That’s why Feats are a better way to judge if someone can win in a fight. Jason and deathstroke have weaponry that if connected to dick would kill him, that’s not a opinion it’s a fact. If shot in the head dicks dead, if heads cut off dick is dead. In the fights with dick and Jason has Jason ever landed a single hit on dick? Has he landed several hits? If so than those all could have been time where Jason killed dick. The narrative of the story is what decides who when in a “story”, but not who would most likely when in any given potential fight they could have against each other. Look passed the narrative to what could happen. Be honest Peter, if Jason or deathstroke tried to actually kill dick with no narrative deciding dick wins, does dick win sheerly out of his stats and abilities the majority of the time?

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

@@ajjackson100 yep

[@ajjackson100]

@@CRISIS_COMICS m.kzbin.infoANAKDTUogTE All I’m saying

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

Funny TikTok. In the canon tho, “normal humans” in DC can dodge bullets and lasers pretty regularly.

[@falcongamingproductions9938]

I kinda feel like red hood gets bullied by the writers sometimes 😂

[@bionic-tyro6729]

I feel like it really comes down to who is more liked by more people. For instance, since Dick Grayson is one of the most liked DC comic book characters, he has more comics he is in and thus more experience and history for writers to draw from. I also feel like Jason's training isn't as fleshed out as Dick's. As much as I like both characters I like Red Hood more, but I feel like if he isn't with the Outlaws, or whatever team he is put on, he is just there to get beat up.

[@ObaREX]

Which funny because in most movies and TV series, Nightwing tends to get floored all the time.

[@Artryom]

It doesn’t matter on popularity but feats of said character which depends on the writer more so… Batman has all that since the 40s but then Ghostmaker and Deathstroke shows up and roughs him up for example. Bane comes outta nowhere… popularity isn’t always a deciding factor.

[@bionic-tyro6729]

@@Artryom However all the characters you mentioned were put in there to challenge the protagonist to force them to change, it's part of the heros story. Bane was made to be a physical challenge to Batman so Batman would have a struggle he would have to beat. What I am saying is that because Nightwing is so popular, writers make stories for him and since part of a story is the struggle, with how many stories Nightwing gets, he also beats a lot of struggles and thus gets stronger, so in that way the more popular Nightwing gets the more stories he gets and the more chances for him to get stronger.

[@Artryom]

@@bionic-tyro6729 Except a character can do something outrageous and beat everything they've done in a single issue take Jason vs Lady Shiva for example, Jason won and I've seen many fans argue that win places him on top of Grayson in skills. A character can have 100 stories but all it takes is one good story, one good feat, Jason Todd fan boys are also that win over Batman, Damian, Green arrow and Mnahunter beats most of what Grayson has done. The ein over nerfed Deathstroke proves Jason is the better fighter, etc etc, none of this is true but imagine those wins without what actually happened, he would be the better fighter if the context of those were genuine and fair wins.

[@bionic-tyro6729]

@@Artryom While I agree that one single issue can make a character stronger, I still believe that the more popular character has the advantage because they get more issues to explore their character and thus make them stronger (or weaker in some cases) and that is just down to their being more chances to get stronger due to more issues caused by the characters popularity. This doesn't make a character with less stories weaker though, I mean Martian Manhunter has some of the strongest abilities in all of DC(if used correctly by writers) but when was the last comic that featured him as a prominent character? And all though I am a Red Hood fan, I can admit that quite a few of his wins over established strong characters, like Deathstroke and Shiva, are due mostly to the scenarios he fights them in or taking advantage of specific weaknesses, (I don't think taking advantage of a weakness is a sign of a good fighter, but a sign of a good strategist). Overall I never meant to sound like popularity is the only thing that decides who is stronger or not, Its not even close to the only reason. What really matters in who is going to win in a fight is what the writer wants. I remember hearing in a n interview with a comic book writer that they said that if the writer wants a character to win, then the writer will come up with a way or scenario in which the character wins.

[@MateusDrake]

I mean, as much as I love both of them, I would bet on Dick winning 9 out of 10. I like the idea that each of the Robins has an specialization, but I don't think Jason's combat prowess would be number one in the family with Cass and Dick there.

[@ShadowFireZZX]

I feel like the authors have favorites and it’s shown tbh like lots more people like nightwing more then red hood so they write stories which gives these heroes more feats so yeah dick wins but I feel it has a lot to do with author favoritism

[@WWMK05]

I agree

[@ihatenagi]

Not really nightwing is just shown stronger in damn near every comic

[@user-lp8im7ow8s]

That's the same for every character in fiction, the famous one is more likely the strongest

[@sunkitti8944]

Cough cough, Jim Starlin, cough cough He literally filled an entire suggestion box with Jason’s name to get him killed off with AIDS, it only didn’t go through because they realized all the handwriting was the same, and yet they let this man continue writing Jason. No wonder we got Death in the Family.

[@theremedy2abh]

The deep sigh before he said "dickie boy" absolutely sent me 😭😭

[@achimpanzee9210]

I’d say Nightwing due to him being either equal or a little below to Batman in skill. To my knowledge Jason hasn’t shown any feats on that level.

[@Kezexclusive]

Honestly if they gave tim drake similar strength to Jason or nightwing he might be the best robin cos he was the most clever robin as well

[@Artryom]

@@Kezexclusive Same if they gave them his level of intellect, they’d be even more dangerous than him even if they did…

[@Kezexclusive]

@@Artryom Ik I’m just saying what he needs to be on their level

[@Artryom]

@@Kezexclusive Ah, right…

[@tremel7336]

I didn't realize Jason was so underpowered. I know that the writer's always have him basically lose to anyone with more experience, but this is downright criminal. I'm aware I'm being biased but it is also true that DC doesn't know what to do with his character. From my perspective, Jason should have become Bruce's complete equal some time ago as they are the same question with different answers. There shouldn't be any copout's to his prowess or lethality. This video just made me want to give him the justice he deserves.

[@Artryom]

He doesn’t deserve to be given unfair treatment such as making him Batman’s equal at all though. It took Grayson fifty years to obtain “Equal to Batman” status, a guy who’s been around way longer, only a year after him and yet folks still debate that Writers are trash and Batman mops him then this bratty failure comes along and should be his “Equal” ? Nah, shouldn’t be how it works my boy. It should take Jason 100 years to objectively reach his level.

[@tremel7336]

@@Artryom I get that, but that's because the writer are always pussy-footing. It shouldn't have taken over fifty years of comics for Grayson to reach Batman's level nor should it for Jason. Dick has the training, discipline, and skill to do such a thing but unlike batman he's more of a team player which should divide his prowess. Jason put in the same amount of work, effort, and dedication as Bruce, some would argue more, just to be the punching bag of the entire family even though he is the most similar to the bat. Each member of the family has the short end compared to Bruce, which is fine most of the time since we wouldn't have any of them without him, but that shouldn't be the case all the time. I pointed out how I'm biased towards Jason and that's why I chose to focus on him. He's my favorite out of the Batfamily and rarely does he get the respect of a well written and compelling story with the exception of returning to life to combat his father figure. The writers need to move on, explore the next chapter in his life the right way. Even I don't think he should outright whoop Dick and Bruce but he should be headed in that direction as Batman's true equal or biggest opposition, and I think Dick should be the one to surpass them seeing as he was the only one who escaped their mentors shadow.

[@WWMK05]

I know right it makes no sense as to why he so under powered it’s sad

[@user-lp8im7ow8s]

​@@tremel7336Dick Grayson training entire teams and the Justice League viewing him as their defacto leader is a status that SHOULD take a long time to gain , Bruce grew from his pain to be a father and reflect the best of himself like Nightwing, Jason being the equal to Bruce isn't deserved , he hasn't grown like Batman did, nor Grayson

[@tremel7336]

@@user-lp8im7ow8s Again, I get that, but that's because the writer are always pussy-footing. It shouldn't have taken over fifty years of comics for Grayson to reach Batman's level nor should it for Jason. Dick has the training, discipline, and skill to do such a thing but unlike batman he's more of a team player which should divide his prowess. Jason put in the same amount of work, effort, and dedication as Bruce, some would argue more, just to be the punching bag of the entire family even though he is the most similar to the bat. Each member of the family has the short end compared to Bruce, which is fine most of the time since we wouldn't have any of them without him, but that shouldn't be the case all the time. I pointed out how I'm biased towards Jason and that's why I chose to focus on him. He's my favorite out of the Batfamily and rarely does he get the respect of a well written and compelling story with the exception of returning to life to combat his father figure. The writers need to move on, explore the next chapter in his life the right way. Even I don't think he should outright whoop Dick and Bruce but he should be headed in that direction as Batman's true equal or biggest opposition, and I think Dick should be the one to surpass them seeing as he was the only one who escaped their mentors shadow.

[@kazerzozay]

I love that every reference you have you cited the actual comic cover. That make you very distinct from other comic KZbinrs and better for the audiences. Thank you!! Keep up the good work

[@joeker5208]

“Crisis lists off several feats and scaling chains that deductively conclude that Nightwing would more than likely beat Jason” Some Random Om Reddit: Yeah, but Jason uses guns. Ergo, he wins🤓

[@jordanglasper1064]

The reason why the Batman family ranking scale is a bit off kilter. Far more complex than it should be, is because they kept on progressively keeping dick Grayson considerably weaker than Batman. For unknown reasons. They hoed him so bad til it wasn’t funny. I’m glad you’re giving Dick Grayson the love recognition and the flowers he deserves. The greatest near the hand combat Robin there ever was or ever will be. And finally legitimately giving his flowers for surpassing Batman in totality. Just subscribed, notifications fell on!!!

[@joseRodriguez-lm3bk]

You forgot the most important piece of info that will tip the scale no matter what. Nightwing is considered good and Jason for the most part "evil"; we know that "good" always gets the upper hand. The gg case is closed, if it was reversed we would see the same thing.

[@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225]

Jason isn't anywhere close to evil? If he was, he wouldn't be apart of the Batfamily. Maybe when he first came back, he was villain material, but not now. That was a long time ago.

[@Artryom]

I had zero clue he KEPT his Talon training and memories oof, good to note.

[@Better_Call_Bulba-Saur]

Comics logic, Nightwing dominates. The only way Redhood could win is if a writer really really liked him and the story really really needed it to happen, even without plot armor, Nightwing is just that good. Real world logic though, worlds best acrobat with electric sticks vs competent hitman with guns and a helmet, no contest whatsoever. They don't have a big enough skill gap to overcome guns and a helmet.

[@cinemamadness6920]

In the Red Hood movie it felt like Jason was easily better than Dick and was closer to being a match for Batman. It's just a movie, but still

[@adamdouce353]

I feel like Jason's hood is inconsistent. It can stop a bullet or knife but won't stop a stick and can be shattered by a punch

[@xpressjustice542]

I’m not a gear specialist or whatever but maybe it’s ballistic armoured ect. But not as much shock proof?

[@Jason_H_Martitinez]

@@xpressjustice542 so it isn't armored? A bullet or a knife creates more shock than a punch 💀

[@xpressjustice542]

@@Jason_H_Martitinez no what I mean is that a punch has a lot more surface area than a bullet

[@Jason_H_Martitinez]

@@xpressjustice542 and? A punch isn't stronger than a bullet. Like you said before, you're nit a gear specialist. A pinch will never be able to cause more damage than a bullet or a knife, and if a punch can destroy a bulletproof helmet, it isn't bulletproof at all

[@xpressjustice542]

@@Jason_H_Martitinez maybe, maybe not I guess it’s left up to the professionals which I am not.

[@ObaREX]

Anyway what makes this match up so compelling is how personal it is. There is a lot of baggage to unpack between these two. Like Bruce, Dick sees Jason as someone he let down. But he also has the added guilt of originally not being all that nice to him. Being jealous even. Wishing he was a better big brother, but still pretty annoyed with him. On the flipside, Jason sees Dick as the embodiment of his inadequacies. The golden boy everyone compared him to. There's a reason, Post-Crisis Jason tried harder to kill Grayson than anyone else. Best rivalry in comics if you ask me. Other than Cyclops and Wolverine, of course.

[@Artryom]

😮😢By killing Grayson he’d kill the embodiment of his insecurities oof…

[@realizedpotential6640]

Could go either way but I feel like Nightwing typically has an edge, at one point he got on Batman's lvl. He may have/or has the potential to surpass Batman too but his immense respect for his father/teacher figure is a mental restraint on him if he were to fight him, while Red Hood can put up a fight against Batman but usually gets utterly outclassed if Batman puts aside their past relationship and gets 100% serious

[@joshjones7718]

That issue of Task Force Z where Jason breaks Tim’s nose was hilarious! The whole fight was funny to be honest.

[@daniel30855]

Nightwing if you really think about it.

[@Shrimpstan]

not even if you really think about it,considering nightwing is the only person in the batfamily besides like cass who could actually fight batman and have a chance at winning,its him no question

[@Aakash-tg1uk]

@@SPDRM he won against batman, did u even see the video??

[@Kezexclusive]

@@SPDRM my knowledge is that they’ll most likely draw. But i feel like Jason would have the upper hand until his ruined mentality kicks in which would lead to nightwing winning but if Jason can remain calm I’d say he’d win or draw

[@Kezexclusive]

@@SPDRM also if u look at it like this, nightwings lost to Damien Wayne before in sparring and red hood absolutely smoked Damien Wayne

[@107Pedro]

@@Kezexclusive Battle for the cowl, they fight, Jason goes all out for his dream of being batman, he loses

[@alijahlogan8554]

Nightwing gives Red Hood that older brother beatdown. I would love to see Red Hood get some wins on Nigthwing, and develop a rivalry similar to Leo and Raph from TMNT. I mean they already do have that rivalry but it feels very one sided in Nightwing's favor. It would be cool to see Red Hood catch up to Nightwing, just like how Nightwing caught up to Batman.

[@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225]

It's more like Goku vs Vegeta with how ahead Nightwing is

[@alijahlogan8554]

@@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225 That's true but I thought of Leo and Raph more cause of the color difference and the brother thing

[@Artryom]

@@alijahlogan8554 Leo wins like 90% of the time still though…

[@y.v.n.gvidsstuff1057]

@@Artryom nope in comics it tied

[@Dandoskyballer]

If Red Hood caught up, Nightwing would be dead. Kinda his thing.

[@invictus6176]

lets look at Current versions. Red Hood was able to beat a weakened Deathstroke by getting the drop on him. Nightwing while severally injured was able to defeat an amped Deathstroke who even while at base was previously at the peak of his power.

[@Dat_Doggo]

Yep at the end of the day Dick is the best Combatant in the bat family, While Jason is the best at Battle Tactician in the in the bat family.

[@invictus6176]

@@UndefeatedDeathDebunkedYou You have yet to prove otherwise just wanking Jason so unbelievably high despite the fact he’s lost way worse than Slade has

[@invictus6176]

@@Dat_Doggo even then you can argue Dicks better just off his own contingency plans for the Titans but yeah I’d agree Jason’s better

[@lettucelad]

i really love how ya explained everything thoroughly especially with so detailed analysis referring to many runs and eras of DC comics yet still able to make it understandable and engaging for people who watch this video. i stopped reading dc comics since the early rebirth days and only start reading around pre N52 era however, watching this vid make me wanna catch up again tbh

[@WWMK05]

Damn we know who the favorite is when it comes to DC writers. Shame though Jason is such a good character but treated like shit. 😂

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

I’d say he’s treated appropriately

[@WWMK05]

@@CRISIS_COMICS respectfully I don’t see how the fact that every example used Jason either lost or someone wasn’t trying their hardest but yet Dick in most of the examples given he’s either one shooting someone or winning with while injured. The way they’re writing Jason he can’t win a single fight except against Tim Drake in other words a fight between him and Dick and Dick is gonna wash him unless Jason gets lucky or Dick isn’t trying which is seems to me the DC writers are making him a whole lot weaker than Dick. The fact that Dick can solo someone or just out right beat them while when it comes to Jason no one can just go all out and he win seems disrespectful to me. Personally I don’t care that Dick can beat Jason my problem is that without someone not trying and or Jason getting lucky or someone not going all out he can’t seem win any fights

[@coin4898]

lol fr, this dude gets overwhelmed by a nightwing who was just damaged before hand and got some of that puff puff and still couldnt land more than 1 hit? its like everytime they fight they make nightwing get damaged just so he can still somehow dominate jason without even trying haha.

[@pinstripe4254]

I think Redhood augments his abilities to a greater degree with his tools. Whether they be guns, a crowbar, a knife, or whatever is around. Meanwhile Dick trains his abilities more than anything as he basically only uses what amount to two bars of metal

[@jico5147]

nightwing has training with multiple weapons (including guns in a majority) and has talon training on top of that so it’s not far fetched to say he can use multiple weapons.

[@footballaesthetics11]

Amazing video with so much work and passion but never understood why DC always made Jason way more inferior to Dick and Bruce in pure hand to hand combat.

[@xavierhugo9269]

I suppose it's just to further his charecter,from what I believe or think(just my opinion and is subject to change) he is supposed to be the failure the one that never will be as good as the others from what I see dick is supposed to be the better batman what batman should have been but never will be, tim is supposed to the strategist,the genius, the prodigy is some sence he is supposed to be the smarter one the guy to think out situations like no one else can and Damian is despite me not liking it is the hier to cowl sure dick would be by far the better pick but dick doesnt wanna be batman but the way they are developing damin and his story is to try turn him into batman the one to actually take Bruce's place in some way most of them are either better versions or successors to bruce one way or another but jason is supposed to be the odd one out he isnt supposed to be better he is supposed to be the tragedy to kinda symbolize what tragedy can do to someone but in a way his story shows perseverance by him still choosing to do what's right in his mind regardless of the what the others say he is supposed to be the guy that resembles alot of us the guy that doesnt get the recognition from.the others the guy is never good enough despite how hard he tries but he still tries anyway I feel those elements and his drip is the reason why so many people like him cause he is a tragic character we can relate to

[@Artryom]

I like to think maybe it’s cuz he relies on dirty and underhanded and mostly lethal tactics and gadgets too often to beat them when they’re able to get up close and personal with him similar to KGBeast and Nightwing, the usage of guns and moves to kill and his own inferiority complex holds him back from being truly on par similar to the scene in this video where he admits he’d never be able to beat Batman fairly. Also, Nightwing and Batman are no strangers to UNFAIR fights so that negates his only advantage.

[@xavierhugo9269]

@@Artryom hmm fair enough I'd say that's pretty reasonable

[@rexqt5337]

Dick grayson, the type of guy who dominates you in a fight and then asks you if you want to drink some lemon juice together after the fight

[@torture6938]

Nightwing would smoke tf out of Red Hood lmao

[@quezkemoni4964]

Nightwing got that dog in em

[@vincentshadetree]

I always like these matchups between these two, they both have an edge on the other in certain aspects

[@Gwilherm]

As a Red Hood fan, I have to agree that nightwing is a superior fighter

[@SpareMango]

Between this and his terrible writing Red Hood and his fans are the most cucked in all of DC

[@pepita2437]

Cool, detailed video. :) I was curious how Rebirth Jason would square up against Dick. But there is no way Dick being physically stronger than Jason. Jason is heavier, according to canon, by at lest 50 pounds, and taller, and have more muscle mass. The writing is inconsistent, but from some of the Red Hood comics, it seems like the Lazarus Pit enchanced Jason's strength, and regenerative abilities. Only slightly, but it still counts.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

Not sure if that checks out considering the feats

[@hugejackedman3447]

Size and strength don't always go hand in hand. Small guys in Dagestan wrestle bears for fun! 😂

[@spoodurmin9742]

@@hugejackedman3447 Size and Strength absolutely do go hand-in-hand. Taller + Heavier = Stronger. That doesn't mean you can't be strong while being leaner/shorter though, but your strength isn't gonna have the same potential as someone who is taller/bigger.

[@hugejackedman3447]

@@spoodurmin9742 Nah nah my ninja. I personally know guys 170lbs that can deadlift 600lbs and I am 200lbs and can only lift 315lbs which is pretty low given my weight. 52 year old woman that has a record bench press of 500+ (with a shirt) and I can only do 225 (raw) Granted the old lady is a pro but still she's barely 5'5" and cant be more than 165lbs So don't hand me that nonsense! 🤣 Sure size and strenght CAN go hand in hand but don't say it's "absolute". It greatly varies depending on the person. Better example? Gymnasts are muscular but not very big and are scientifically proven stronger than pro bodybuilders.

[@spoodurmin9742]

@@hugejackedman3447 Where did I say you can't be strong while being small/lean? All I said is that being taller and bigger gives you more potential for strength, which is a proven fact. Also why are you comparing Gymnasts to Bodybuilders lmfao? They follow completely different training plans. This is how I know you're saying nonsense.

[@spoiler_cc7348]

I would really like to see red hood get some respect when it comes to Nightwing or other people he fights. Would love to see him become one the best fighters alongside Nightwing and Batman

[@dickhardpicard]

I like to see him train damian wayne...both are savage asf...just imagine batman said" train him better than I trained you. 🤯

[@FunNHonesty]

We all know Nightwing would win. No one would question that lol. Amazing video regardless

[@Kezexclusive]

The problem is we don’t.. it depends on the scenario

[@107Pedro]

I mean he already has, jason was going all out in battle for the cowl, he lost

[@Artryom]

@@Kezexclusive Unless Grayson is basically disabled and can’t move any of his limbs, then Jason wins, his only 1/10 chance

[@Kezexclusive]

@@Artryom well now ur just being weird

[@Artryom]

@@Kezexclusive Ehhh... We're all are to be honest. Like you with that comment above.

[@ghosttemplar6989]

Night wing is just a different monster compared to Red Hood, but I love Red Hood story better. Night wing is about as close to Batman than any of Batmans students.

[@Drj263]

Ok but writers build Jason up only to have him downplayed by the other members of the bat family by building them up more jason gets the raw end of the deal. Jason kicked bane off of himself and flipped suzy sue (600 pounds) and dick does not have the same strength

[@sourpatchkilla]

multiple batmans said it multiple times dick is/can be the best of us! even in gotham knights Jason says nightwing is the chosen one/prodigal son and not in a bad way.. to remind Dick that he's that guy and to get out of his own head because dick puts a lot of pressure on himself because he knew even batman wanted him to be batman!...

[@Cashmoneez]

Is this really a debate? Nightwing not only has beaten red hood he’s also deathstroke’s equal who is stronger than Jason. Dick is the best robin that’s just how his character is written. Jason vs Tim would be a much closer fight.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

@@azariahbenisrael600 And yet Dick's beaten both of them multiple times...

[@ImaginaryNate]

Wow, you really discredit every good thing Jason does in this video.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

not rly

[@theproton5837]

So Dick would win the fight if he wanted but he won't. He won't hurt Jason. That's not who he is. He's my favorite comic character because he's better than Bruce in his own way. He's not smarter than. Tim but Dick is who Bruce wants to be but he's cursed to be batman.

[@bedbug8617]

Nightwing has already won his fights against Jason lol. He wouldn't want to hurt Jason, but he will if he needs to. He's not that much of a sap.

[@Artryom]

@@bedbug8617 Where are folks getting he’s so honorable and lowkey a pacifist from?? Dude has done some atrocious and badass things like making his emblem on a thug’s chest in his own blood once iirc… lmao😂 He’d take it EZ on Jason like he always has with the rest of the Batfamily but he won’t let them win or go super EZ mode.

[@jakedead3ye532]

It all comes down to speed and agility vs strength and brutality. And of course whoever is the writer of the comic. Dick has the experience and the better feats but that can be directly linked to Jason being killed off in the 80’s. After all Dick is one year younger than Batman himself in terms of publication. Jason is my favorite robin so it’s hard not to be biased but in a fair or even slightly unfair fight in Jason’s favor, Dick probably still wins. That being said I don’t think it would be an easy fight and I’d still root for Jason to win by a miracle. There’s only so many times I can bear to watch his character get bullied before I say enough and don’t care anymore.

[@scotthardie9970]

I’ve always said that Nightwing solos all members of the Bat-Family, his patience and level of intelligence is unmatched in comparison to the rest except for maybe Barbara. Nightwing easily wipes Jason, Tim, Damien, and Barbara is a little harder but he wins… aside from Cassandra she wipes everyone.

[@Ib-sq4fn]

Tim is smarter

[@scotthardie9970]

@@Ib-sq4fn Yea Tim’s technology skills are smarter, but not combat or efficiency

[@gokura]

red hood needs a hyperbolic time chamber from dragon ball cause this man getting cooked

[@ChasingRyou]

Nightwing is arguably better than Batman. There’s a reason he’s Batman’s greatest success

[@dickhardpicard]

I agree..still waiting for dc to give damian an evolution in age...13-20 yrs old completing his Robin years...the assassin training wit batmans discipline. Genius iq with computer and detective skills....even bruce have to tell him chill don't be savage.. 🤣

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

@@dickhardpicard Future Damian admits he’s not as good as Bruce or Dick

[@Gatster0171]

Nightwings a fvcking beast.

[@LuckyLex_]

Great video. Grayson supremacy!

[@xavierhugo9269]

Yes siiir

[@amyaurion]

I'm a Jason Stan but even I know Dick takes him if both are going for the kill. Dick would easily be the most terrifying villain if he felt like it.

[@dickhardpicard]

Idk..I think damian Wayne age 21-45 would be a major problem 😂

[@xavierhugo9269]

Lol I love how you actually read the comment section, and consider what has been said and address it usually in some way, shape, or form honestly I chuckled abit when you brought up the vampire comic story, which I mentioned in a prior comment of mine and you shot it down immediatly tbh I completely agree on not including those those kinda story lines and just focus on the main continuity. Keep up the good work,I'm really enjoying this kinda content

[@Nightwing727]

Great video! I’m glad someone is finally giving Nightwing some credit.

[@RaeontheLeft]

I mean Jason has always been the redhead step-child of the Bat-family, both in comics and in how the writers and fans treat him, and Dick was number one so yeah they weren't ever going to make Jason better. So it's kind of BS from the start. This video just makes it clear as day.

[@MrKsan05]

I would put nothing in cass kane being better than anyone, she was written by woke leftist so of course they will write things that way.

[@spiceyseason981]

Nightwing would stomp red hood

[@CommanderShepard-wq3wo]

Personally, I’ve always liked Red Hood more than Nightwing. But it’s clear Nightwing would win 7/10 in a all out fight

[@yerintaem]

I agree

[@Bluejay2k23]

Glad you made this video, people always seemed to find it laughable or that I was dumb when I tried to say nightwing would beat redhood. Great video and analysis!

[@Winddemonslayer]

I knew Dick was going to sweep him, people are biased against dick but even batman has said that Dick is a better Batman than him and all cool abilities/ Robin/ Knightwing aside I love Dick’s character before I loved him as a sidekick and later on hero

[@colegillgrass3373]

I honestly depends on the comic, because their skill can very greatly. Both have been considered better combatants than batman in various comics. Such as Jason training with all the masters that Bruce trained under, and then some. While nightingale has had various times when he outpaced Bruce. Other times they are basically fodder. I personally favor Jason, almost entirely due to favoritism but ultimately due to one scene where he disables multiple or batman rouges gallery in only one move.

[@user-lp8im7ow8s]

Training with better fighters does not make you more skilled, in that case Kyle Reyners better than Batman

[@Slapback20]

I agree that nightwing wins these fights, but it does seem very one sided, but I can understand why at the same time, though it seems like the writers are always holding Jason back like I have a feeling he’s more skilled than he thinks, for example Jason always thinks he can beaten and when he does beat someone skilled the foe is either injured or flawed

[@jasmonthompson1498]

Richard would beat THE FUCK OUTTA Jason 😂😂 My mans would whoop Jason, Tim & Damian at the same time. 🤷‍♂️🤲

[@dickhardpicard]

Not if damian was age 21-45.. u know the only reason damian can't win because he too young..but he actually better at the same age because he had better training

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

@@dickhardpicard Nope

[@kevenrules]

Wow red hood has been nerfed into the ground recently

[@Picmanreborn]

Nice. Now do a match between penguin and riddler in hand to hand combat LMFAO Edit: nice usage of the Radagon theme!!!!

[@D-tail]

DC is so unbelievably convoluted that to me it's difficult to come up with a legitimate answer without some sort of writing inconsistencies or contradictions. The only way I'd 100% stand behind a victor in terms of a fight between these two is if it was to happen now. No bullshit, just a drawn out fight between the two utilizing everything they have to offer. Jason has a lot under his belt that unfortunately is never written into anything, but Dick has a lot under his belt too. I wrote a prior comment but changed my mind, I used the Vamp storyline even though it is not in canon. With that being said, I still feel like it shows Jason's potential as a combatant assuming every event in that story up until his death was the same/similar to the canon Earth. Meaning that he would be fully capable of beating Dick considering that's what he did in that issue. Though, as you said it is not canon. Mostly shows his characters potential if he is handled correctly.

[@gutsinbadanimation2351]

i'm pretty sure Grayson was holding back in the vamp series, there was no reason for him to take out Jason if he was trying to recruit him. vampire Nightwing has enhanced supernatural abilities and could've punt kicked Jason into the ocean if he wanted

[@D-tail]

@@gutsinbadanimation2351 That's a fair point, but it's not like we've never seen humans beat physically superior beings before

[@iohishigho]

imo it depends on what jason/dick you use, if youre using comics like you did, fair shot nightwing wins. but ill use an example, we use Arkhams verse of them. if we take arkham knight (jason todd) and pair him against Arkhams nightwing. Arkham knight will slam. due to his anger driven strength.

[@tvman250]

Richard is one of, if not, the only people in DC who has beaten Batman in FAIR 1v1. I don’t see this battle going any other way.

[@ObaREX]

People saying Jason would win because he has guns... Need to shut up. Bat-fam members fight people with guns all the time. Also Jason's whole tragedy is that he's stuck in second place. It's sad. And maybe someday he'll get that win he desperately wants. But for now. He's stuck.

[@kordellpurnell6207]

Wtf I didn’t know NW kept and still remembers his talon training 😬😬

[@ristianoconaldo2118]

To be honest, the comics really downplay Jason and his skills, much like Nightwing in the New 52. When comparing their backgrounds and abilities, I lean towards Jason, primarily due to his dip in the Lazarus Pit, which granted him additional "powers" and the fact that he is 50 pounds heavier than Dick. Additionally, Jason's loadout provides him with a significant advantage and makes it easier for him to outshine Dick. While Dick is undoubtedly strong, flexible, and acrobatic, I must admit that this channel seems somewhat biased. Another thing I saw another video where it said, he fought red hood, and lost twice when he was in New York (when red hood was pretending to be Nightwing )

[@Roran109]

Even as a frothing mad Jason Todd fan, I agree with almost everything in this video. If anything, I think it makes Jason that much more compelling, more of an underdog.

[@Birdperson12041]

As a fan of Red Hood, anyone thinking Red Hood could unironically beat Nightwing is insane. Dick could snap Jason like a twig in most if not all fights they're in. He is Batman's first son. He is the one who will inherit the cowl if no weirdness happens rather he likes it or not. If he doesn't take the cowl, then whoever "Batman" is becomes second to Nightwing. There is no debate on that.

[@thetortoise5980]

Top tier editing my guy also goated af vid

[@ego.23]

What are we even arguing about. Dick Grayson is a god. His super hero name comes from a hero of another world. Superman’s world!! Imagine the amount of respect it takes for Superman to allow you to use a superhero name from his extinct planet!! Stop making these videos. We all know Nightwing would win.

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

I get views tho…

[@ego.23]

@@CRISIS_COMICS I guess that is all that matters. But for real. I respect your content! Keep it up bro.

[@BullyGarfield.]

Red Hood is my second favorite DC character

[@xavierhugo9269]

And who is your favourite?

[@The_MEMEphis]

@@xavierhugo9269 your mom

[@xavierhugo9269]

@@The_MEMEphis jokes on you she is dead

[@The_MEMEphis]

@@xavierhugo9269 jokes on you I'm into that shit

[@rubenrodriguez6848]

I feel like DC writers don't know what to do with Jason even though I feel if they give the right person, the redhood storyline he can make something amazing because a lot of people want a evil batfamily member

[@status7505]

I pray my man Jason gets a solid win in the future 🙏

[@CRISIS_COMICS]

gross

[@Not_Jojo815]

@@CRISIS_COMICS Why is that Gross,Jason does deserve his respect

[@WWMK05]

I hope he does too but I highly doubt it 😢

[@jamesrosengrant8675]

The only way Jason wins is if he's starting the fight and using ambush attacks like a sniper shot while Dick is busy or traps to lead Dick to during the fight. In a fair fight Dick wins

[@srtlowe2165]

Really enjoyed this video and appreciate the research that went into it!

[@NonAryanDuck]

The existential dread of having to say "Dickey boy" is hilarious

[@tchoythao1730]

Nightwing already beat Jason and Batman. He’s better than both because he’s not as depressed.

[@theunitedcity]

What folks dont get is that the "good person aka hero" would always have a slight advantage over the "badguy aka villian" soo most of those fights narratives to jason losesing as he is always on the wrong side and jason won the first fight i dont get how a gun to the head and a pipe to your neck is a stalemate

[@billyboleson2830]

Red hood is the most overhyped DC character at the moment other Deathstroke. Kraven vs Ra’s Al Ghul I think would be a fire match up

[@felixthewolf7147]

probably cause no one looks at red hood to do something new and actually show how strong jason actually is nightwing has been spoon fed since his conception

[@GMP1isReal]

Jason is always over hyped because he's always made to look bad in any story he's in before post-Under the Red Hood. So weird how characters always seem more powerful and intimidating when they're a villain.