Open Bar #41 - Willow Cancelled, D&D Hates Men, Discovery Finally Ends

[@specialk9424]

With the cancellation of Willow, the question must be asked, What project will Ginger Plank of Wood be shoved into next?

[@chasehedges6775]

Her name is Erin Kellyman and I remember when she first appeared in Solo A Star Wars Story(2018).

[@erroneous6947]

No talent in that female human. At all.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@erroneous6947 She’s meh. She has a nice British accent tho

[@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158]

"Not-Lord of the Rings" probably. Or her character in MCU returns through multiverse shenanigans and shoots Kang in the face, thus cementing herself as a heroine she always was.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158😂😂😂😂

[@StephenConantJohnson]

I'll always remember James Hong as the eye specialist in Blade Runner. I just love the scene when he tells Rutger Hauer that he designed his eyes and Hauer replies "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes." One of the several great lines in that masterpiece.

[@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158]

After seeing some of these shows, I gained a lot more respect for paint drying. At least that one isn't insulting my intelligence.

[@weswolever7477]

And drying paint actually accomplish’s something

[@bahmontdrago1609]

Lol!

[@jacksonwookie]

And what might that be @weswowlever7477?

[@weswolever7477]

@@jacksonwookie whatever was painted is improved

[@jacksonwookie]

Maybe you should paint your motorcycle, @weswolever7477.

[@chasehedges6775]

The 1988 Willow movie felt like it had Lucas’ vision and direction. The Willow show felt like it had KK’s paws all over it.

[@johnstrawb3521]

The cancellation is a genuine shame. Few shows are so bad, and in a certain way, that they're legitimately in the 'so bad they're great to criticize' category. ---Well, at least we'll always have Disparu's hilarious skewering of this monstrous delight.

[@Olebull93]

When the High Aldwin was asking what finger the power of the universe was in, what was the answer?

[@noway4879]

what's KK ?

[@Sacowa]

@@noway4879 Kathleen Kennedy

[@ErikDeMann]

@@noway4879 She's the CEO of the Feminist Ku Klux Clan of American entertainment, only they hate white men instead, to appear more exotic and inclusive themselves...And they burn bras instead of crosses. Otherwise, there's very little difference in terms of mentality..

[@blatherskite3009]

Looking at that thumbnail, I just realised the extent of the man-hate in the recent Willow series. Not only are all the male characters assholes or sidelined (or both), but male viewers are even denied the basic comfort of fancying the female leads, because they're gay and don't want any truck with our sort. It's "men not welcome here" from every conceivable angle, isn't it? :(

[@chasehedges6775]

I was mainly bothered by how cheap it all looked. It reminds of Book Of Boba and Kenobi in terms of production values

[@Сайтамен]

​@@chasehedges6775 Or CW

[@chasehedges6775]

@@Сайтамен 👍👍

[@ZephaniahL]

Another reason to outlaw positive depictions of homosexuality

[@Сайтамен]

@@ZephaniahL Yeah, just reverse the problem instead of solving it, great...

[@thatguywesmaranan]

my late grandfather was a movie and tv buff, and we used to bond thru that... i remember one conversation we had about how these forms of media will evolve and improve as time goes on... looking at the landscape of film and television now, in a way, i'm glad he's no longer around to suffer through what passes for entertainment nowadays...

[@chasehedges6775]

RIP to your grandfather. He’d be disgusted by the state of film and Tv right now

[@thatguywesmaranan]

knowing him, i strongly agree with your sentiment... i mean, we weren't exactly drowning in great films and shows years ago, but it's just been getting, pardon the pun, "progressively" worse recently...

[@chasjetty8729]

That’s how I feel about my Ma. She was pretty twisted in her own way, but knowing her seeing the rest of society get twisted would have been too much. It’s fine to be bitter if you can turn on the works of Peter Sellers, Billy Murray, or DiNero but to be bitter and turn on Willow? That’s our generations cross to bear.

[@ez6888]

He was right and wrong. There are better material out there (especially on the TV side) but the sheer volume of the worse material is suffocating .. but god bless the old man

[@chasehedges6775]

@@ez6888 The older people are always right. It’s why I always love spending time with my grandparents

[@chasehedges6775]

James Hong is a great actor. He was in the animated Mulan and he was great in the Kung Fu Panda movies as Po’s dad

[@jbbj9720]

how does everyone forget his best role!!! snotty in revenge of the nerds 2. "piss off.,...who made you god"

[@MrMossMan7272]

Also avatar the last air bender

[@chasehedges6775]

@@MrMossMan7272 Best Animated show ever

[@wiinterflowers95]

@@MrMossMan7272 And the grandfather in Everything Everywhere All At Once.

[@OsellaSquadraCorse]

And the eccentric Ping Pong legend in Balls of Fury!

[@Nickle_King]

On the topic of “Tony not paying people.” That has some merit because Tony is not the CEO of the company. Pepper is. So, these people trying to make Tony look like a toxic, 1% asshole are actually making Pepper the asshole.

[@chasehedges6775]

👍👍. Good point.

[@chasehedges6775]

Pepper deserves better

[@Сайтамен]

Tony still owns the company, actions and bank accounts. Plus he is an Avenger, Pepper isn't, so he sponsored them. Of course, now he is dead, so the company goes to Pepper, as she is also his wife.

[@OsellaSquadraCorse]

@@Сайтамен You don't understand how a CEO works. No, he doesn't "own" the bank accounts. You think Jeff Bezos pays every Amazon bill, hires every employee,etc. Even the CEO doesn't have that level of responsibility. Tony also gave Pepper the CEO status well before he died so its not that she inherited that title from him, it was given to her years prior,

[@Nickle_King]

@@Сайтамен True. Pepper would still have to approve it. They kinda co-own the company.

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

Cheers Drinker and Mauler. A great stream. Happy Birthday Baggage Claim.

[@chasehedges6775]

They’re fun to watch and listen to.

[@weswolever7477]

🎂 to Baggage Claim

[@kurtismurton1331]

Remember the days when acting was about pretending to be another person, now they want you to be the person to play the role

[@chasjetty8729]

You bunch as a group are really good together. Y’all have the kinda chemistry you want out of the bunch you hang with. I see a lot of listening and thinking as your views go around, in agreement or disagreement. Just great stuff. Thank you folks.

[@doublea4820]

My high school team won a state championship 30 years ago, to this day we still get a free meal at a local restaurant, how much more generous would people be to a literal Avenger?! It’s insane how they went that route in Winter Falcon

[@wrayday7149]

Well, it was less bad than all the people who sympathized with Killmonger in Black Panther.

[@stoneymahoney9106]

The writers were so repulsed by all the testosterone flying around their old school locker room that they have no idea what a state championship even is, let alone the priviledges afforded those who work hard enough to win one.

[@SniperSX]

It's insane the world these people live in, people are usually nice when you help them out. I don't believe for a second the rethoric they try to convey.

[@Mr_Smith618]

James Hong just recently got a star on the walk in Hollywood, after all these years, partly because Jamie Lee Curtis and Daniel Dae Kim sponsored it. How it took so long is beyond me.

[@gregorde]

You have to pay for it.

[@hibbidyjibbidyy]

he was by far the best thing in diablo 3

[@knottastu]

racism

[@alarson1799]

Yeah, those stars mean next to nothing. They're not awards; they're bought.

[@marcharley6465]

This is my favourite "After hours" of all the ones I've viewed because of the thoughtful and intelligent discussion about becoming older, parenthood, the place of older people in society etc. This is not why people watch "After hours" but I really enjoyed it.

[@flyinpigmusic331]

I'm just so happy for Brendan Fraser and Ke Huy Quan. Those two deserve all the accolades they got. Their acceptance speeches were perfect too. Full of thankfulness, humility, and motivation for people to not give up when things get tough, and keep working hard towards your goals. Great stuff.

[@JonSnow-YThandle]

Baggage claim brings just the right kind of smarts to the panel. Many happy returns please!

[@metalenceladus]

I feel Fraser has always put in his best effort on pretty much any role he's been given. He's probably a joy to have as a lead. Humble, talented and always giving his all to portray the character and story.

[@lordkrauser]

Guy is just so likeable. He's part of why I wanted to check out Doom Patrol (that and enjoying Morrison's brand of weird) and I'm curious about the rumors he might come back for one more Mummy movie based on his trilogy

[@chasehedges6775]

@@lordkrauser He’s a fantastic actor

[@samuel5591]

He's the Nathan Drake we never got.

[@mjbull5156]

In Spectre, they took a plot point from Austin Powers: Goldmember, i.e Dr. Evil and Austin Powers are long lost brothers and tried to play it straight. I remember sitting in the theater in disbelief.

[@Rizzo1812]

I remember laughing out loud and my girlfriend asking what was so funny . I simply said Goldmember .

[@KurtAngle89]

I haven't watched Austin Powers, but "lost brothers becoming enemies as adults" has been so much overused in anime, that seeing played straight in a Bond movie, of all things, left me speechless

[@themidwife1624]

I read that when you have 2 very similar films (twin films) it's because the original script gets passed around the industry looking for producers to make it and 2 separate companies like it and then have a race to film and release the idea before the other does. My favourite examples not mentioned: Truman Show/EDtv, Finding Nemo/Shark Tale. Prestige/Illusionist is the best set of twin films by far imo.

[@NoQuarterNoMercy1]

Deep Impact/Armageddon

[@doopdoopdopdop7424]

Bug’s Life and Antz was literally the guy who had the idea starting his own studio.

[@HappyCynic]

In the case of The Raid and Dredd, I'm still convinced Gareth Evans straight up stole the ideas and situations in Dredd when it had its script leaked onto the net in 2010.

[@dudeguy8686]

​@@doopdoopdopdop7424 on that note, Dreamworks vs Disney have a long history of "twin movies", since the pair you mentioned. It's kinda crazy

[@nicholasscott5905]

The lion King/a Serbian film

[@manuelramospetruchena4620]

In 1997, we had Volcano and Dante's peak. It always dazled me how in each movie they treated the effect of ashes in helicopters too different. It was the first time for me to encounter a Plot Shield

[@jimbo2487-1]

Went into a deep conversation this open bar. L9ved it though. Me and my misses are 36 and 39, been through ivf couple of times, looking like it's pretty bleak. I didn't mature quick enough and she focused hard on her career, and now it's hitting us hard. I can see this happening more and more in next few decades. We need to teach young people life lessons and the movies/TV shows nowadays are sending such wrong messages. Hope it'll change 🙏

[@centerfield6339]

Baggage Claim has a movie star smile. Second only to Little Platoon's, which is so perfect it's almost like a drawing.

[@Adino1]

Baggage Claim killed it last night. I hope you guys can get her on more often.

[@MilkT0ast]

Shout out to despot. He recommended "The 3 body problem" and i went down a rabbit hole with that novel. Its amazing. I highly recommend it.

[@john_michael97]

The Sonic movie deserves more credit for putting video game movies on the right path in recent years, and setting the precedent of listening to fans.

[@darthgoldustgamingandvlogg8674]

It wasn’t that good. Overrated

[@john_michael97]

@@darthgoldustgamingandvlogg8674 I didn’t say it was a good movie, just that it set video game movies on the right path. Specifically being willing to listen to fans, and showing that doing so results in Success.

[@darthgoldustgamingandvlogg8674]

@@john_michael97 ok fine I’ll give you that

[@Willie_Pete_Was_Here]

@@darthgoldustgamingandvlogg8674Standards are so low these days

[@Sarc37]

The suggestion of Drax following the parade of women in Endgame is brilliant. Someone please make a fan edit of this.

[@rilindshehu96]

Ayy, so glad Despot joined, man.

[@chrisjhass]

Thank you, I finished FNT and I needed something else to listen to!

[@JustANyanCat]

What's FNT?

[@bigwetsalmon1]

@@JustANyanCat Friday night tights

[@JustANyanCat]

@@bigwetsalmon1 Thanks a lot, gonna check it out

[@erichtomanek4739]

About Black Panther, the role should have been recast, especially as Chadwick Boseman wanted that. It would have been just like in Soap Operas when a new actor took over an existing part: "The role of Chuck Squarejaw will now be played by Charles Lanternchin."

[@Imperials3nate]

Ironic.... Well, I guess WE can do better.... (Get the hint?)

[@rhyscallinan5058]

I am curious to who would play BP. Only person I think would have been able to do it passed recently (RIP Lance Reddick).

[@AmeliaBodilia]

"Life imitates Art far more than Art imitates Life".-Oscar Wilde The reason behind the people pushing “The Message?”

[@chasehedges6775]

THE MESSAGE needs to be eradicated. Slowly and painfully

[@JakeTheArmyGuy]

What's most interesting to me is that what Drinker said about, 'Imagine being a young white male and having no heroes to look up to." That's the exact argument people made for women and minorities for years, and there's some truth to that. While skin color and gender alone shouldn't be what attaches you to a character, that visual aesthetic does have an impact. What's funny is that in the name of "justice and inclusion" these woke morons are doing the exact same thing to while males that they complained about, ie making them all worthless or inept. So it's not about "justice and equality." It's about vengeance and retribution.

[@Capt.Thunder]

Did they proactively tear any minorities down, though? The closest thing I can think of is the trope of the black comedy sidekick, which was so stale, although at least most of them were likeable and appreciated even if their role was limited. To actively tell white male characters that they are bad people who need correction because of their genetics is basically blood guilt and it's on a whole other level.

[@james3876]

Vengeance and retribution for perceived imbalance of opportunities available to oneself as opposed to what white men in the past have had? That would make sense. There's an ever present temptation I have felt in my own life to blame mediocrity or failings on bad systems or others. The alternative feels bad and doesn't always seem to pay out. Would guess it's the same for alot of other people too. I grew up in a culture where there were mitigations to that temptation, but maybe that part isn't so universal

[@nicholascowling7052]

What's interesting about the fat community discussion is that I only ever hear complaints from women. Maybe because said complaints are on social media, but I can't recall ever hearing a guy complain about being marginalized because he's fat. So, It's women chasing victim status, but I also think it's combined with the modern day women's mantra of freedom of responsibility from past choices so that them being fat is not their fault at all. Look at that one tiktok chick who blamed herself being fat on white colonizers... I'd argue that we could do with more fat shaming in our culture as being morbidly obese literally implies that you are fat enough to die and yet people are supposed to be accepting towards that.

[@cholohd32]

Being large isnt healthy. However for some people it isnt easy loosing weight especially as the doctors keep pushing the "lower your calories"-diet & the real problem isnt just calories. The real culprit is the carbs.It the carbs that keeps you from entering fat burning mode. Ive been trying to loose weight my entire life, but at no point did the docs tell me about the carbs. I randomly found out about the carbs online about 2 years ago & since then ive lost 76 kgs doing Keto & Omad. Knowing about the carbs is really importent.

[@IsUserADuck]

Christ almighty… it’s good that it worked for you, but you’re making rather sweeping generalizations here. For vast majority it’s calories in vs calories out, timing or specific macro ratios are secondary. Yes, lowering high gi carbs helps to keep your insulin more stable, going full keto is unnecessary no matter what keto cultists may say.

[@xitaris5981]

I'd kill to have the longform video released before the snippets

[@Сайтамен]

Subscribe and turn on the notifications, you will be able to watch the premiere.

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

Star Trek Discovery went on 5 seasons too long.

[@texasbeast239]

Hey, there WERE those few seconds where I was really hyped, anticipating the theme song, and the phaser blasts, and the epic speeches on morality and duty to all intelligent life. Remember? Back during the opening network and sponsor clips before 1x01?

[@SvendleBerries]

Its sad when you think that Enterprise only got 4 seasons. And from what I understand, Discovery often got worse ratings than Enterprise did, yet was allowed to last longer.

[@blatherskite3009]

Feels like someone was grimly determined to make sure STD beat Enterprise's season-count, just so they could say it wasn't the worst. (Yeah, original Shatner-Trek only got 3 seasons, but it got 6 films as well)

[@b.chaline4394]

@@blatherskite3009 whoever that someone is can go f* themselves. Enterprise was ten times better than Discovery, no matter the number of seasons.

[@rhyscallinan5058]

So did Batwoman. And Westworld. And a bunch of other shows that stunk.

[@dragonknightleader1]

Okay, there's a good reason why they didn't have Mandalorian merch and it's because toy companies and retailers were burned before by Sequel Trilogy merch. They had all those Rey and Rose Tico and Therm Scissorpunch toys they couldn't sell, so they couldn't be sure that Star Wars merch would sell. Then it turned out Baby Yoda was super popular.

[@josephmckenna5760]

4:30 Why films of similar story are released at the same time. I am POSITIVE that this happens because some poor screenwriter runs around hollywood getting rejected, and when he leaves each studio goes, "Actually, the story's not bad. Put our people on it so we don't have to pay that guy for his idea."

[@HappyCynic]

In the case of Antz and A Bugs Life, it was straight up revenge.

[@poopoo7705]

That's what happened with babylon 5 and deep space 9

[@JAFTW]

Geez, how many shows can Freckle Ginger ruin all by herself or itself whatever.

[@chasehedges6775]

She was ok in Solo(2018). After that… yeah

[@JAFTW]

@@chasehedges6775 I was counting solo. That movie was a dumpster fire.

[@MediumRareOpinions]

The Harbinger of cringe, is she drawn too it, does she bring it upon the project? Nobody knows but it is certain where she she goes bad reviews are sure to follow.

[@chasehedges6775]

Jennifer Lawrence and Brie Larson are some of the actresses ever.

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

Hail jenLawrence, without her there would be no Drinker, No MauLer and alcohol to kill the liver with.

[@jonbaxter2254]

Willow cancelled? I'm shocked, SHOCKED! Well, not that shocked.

[@EvenTheDogAgrees]

The writers defiantly stood their ground, and told the angry fans: "We are not afraid of you!" But then the fans said "Boo!", and they quickly scuttered off. 😂

[@papalaz4444244]

They have never made a good DnD film because they never get the tone right. They treat it as a 'goofy' comedy every time. It's the usual "but it's for kids" bollocks. This one is the most expensive and looks like it's the worst of them all. They have spent the money on exactly the wrong things.

[@chasehedges6775]

At least the 2000s one had Jeremy Irons going over the top. LET THEIR BLOOD RAIN FROM THE SKY! 😂😂

[@chasehedges6775]

The 2005 TV movie Wrath Of the Dragon God is pretty good, honestly

[@texasbeast239]

D&D is plagued by a bad rep from the James Dallas Egbert tragedy. And it won't fight back against that unfair albatross around its neck, instead embracing the goofball branding.

[@Spicy_Spores]

I'm really glad they managed to hit a good medium with this movie then, it's filled with that goofy comedic aspect but I don't think you're ever completely going to get rid of that as they want to make money, but I'm glad there were plenty moments of seriousness mixed in, I would've liked a lot more, but it's perfectly acceptable, I was really impressed.

[@PolarizedMechs]

@@chasehedges6775 He knew he was in crap so he had some fun with it.

[@SleightlyPersonal]

The Drinker’s evil twin, the DRUNKLER!!! *[lightning flashes]*

[@KurtAngle89]

Drinker's evil twin is probably the sober one😂

[@aidancristoforo5530]

Drax in the female empowerment scene would be perfect, and then Drax would throw himself at some huge enemy and be out of the scene, giving the ladies their moment back.

[@wrayday7149]

More people really need to see The Ghost and The Darkness! Battlefield Bad Company 2 - March 2010

[@KA24DERACER]

Theres a REALLY easy and simple explanation for why movies that seem so similar to each other end up releasing very close to each other (Armageddon and Deep Impact is a great example, or Last Knights and 47 Ronin being another). Its because scripts for movies are bid on and its public knowledge whenever a studio purchases one. So when one company buys the script for say Armageddon (or whatever), all the other Hollywood companies know when this happens, and I GUARANTEE that the execs of those other studios will then be in a meeting where one will say something like "hey, X studio just bought this script, so obviously they must have done some research or something that tells them it will be profitable, we should find another script for a similar story and make that", so then they will bid on and buy the script for a very similar story/screenplay and then in a few years two VERY similar movies will release at around the same time. I actually dont mind it, since I love stories of all kinds and its often interesting to see two similar but different "takes" on the same style/type/genre of story (like Armageddon and Deep Impact) and even if I end up liking one of the movies much more than the other, its always at least intriguing to watch how different writers, directors, actors, SFX companies, etc end up doing their similar stories.

[@diracsea4590]

BaggageClaim and Drinker both hit a lot of good points about growing up. I lost my fiance to a drunk driver when I was 29 and it wrecked me emotionally. Took far too long to get back onto my feet (and let someone back into my life) and I just cant do the bar/club scene now as Im now in my late 30s and everyone there is super younger and immature and not looking for anything more then just fun.

[@refugeeca]

Sorry for your situation

[@diracsea4590]

@@refugeeca Its better now, just wanted to point out how real issues can effect someone and yet those of us who had them can come back easier then these "kids" with their bs. But thanks ^_^

[@TheAyeAye1]

Always love seeing Baggage Claim on After Hours.

[@chasehedges6775]

She’s great

[@louisenglish8069]

God bless you drinker, speaking for all of us out here

[@inventgineer]

At 17:00 --> The answer to your question, Drinker, is quite simply..... both. Speaking from past experience: one can want, desperately, as all creatures do, to live......while also simultaneously seeing it as an impossibility without deep and unending suffering -scared and heartbroken because you want to live but you feel you HAVE to end it to end the suffering. I'm sure Brendan Fraser's character was expressing both these emotions: wanting to live, and trying to look up what his current conditions meant about his health, but then when he finds out it would require him to go to a hospital (implied: get expensive treatments), he is heartbroken and angry because he knows he can't without breaking his promise to himself to leave the money for his daughter. His natural desire to keep living and the fear and sadness at facing his own death........competing with him trying to do the only good thing he feels he knows how to do, which REQUIRES him dying. I think he feels/wants both: to live, but also to die because he is so alone, unhappy, and ashamed.

[@MegaSpideyman]

I'm sorry you went through that.

[@dmonbman779]

BANSHEES OF INISHERIN - For me it felt like the often broken nature of human relationships (taken to an extreme) counter pointed to the loyal, silent listeners that were the animals.

[@skelmersdale9950]

I was really looking forward to the D&D movie from the trailer... I'm a lot more nervous about it now, though I still have some optimism in me so maybe it'll be okay.

[@james3876]

It's true to dnd rules that strength and other attributes aren't gated by chromosomes. The bard played by Pine seems to be a scoundrel/fast talker sort, and Rodriguez has a history/build that works for a fighter character. Glad to see another serious attempt at exploring the dnd world. Hoping the controversy around it is just faces in coffee cup stuff.

[@EvenTheDogAgrees]

Well, seeing how fantasy has been treated lately. I mean, back in the 90's, I would've killed to see a TV series of Wheel of Time. Right now, I'm wondering who I have to kill to make the deluge of ruined franchises like WoT, LotR, Star Wars, Willow, etc. stop.

[@Tyrs_Finox]

Oof! That last hour gets pretty real, important but real. I think we all need to hear that our lives are finite sometimes to be happy though. Denying reality never makes you happy in the end.

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

The Message ™ is getting lost in translation.

[@texasbeast239]

It's hard to talk with both of their feet in their mouth.

[@panzarhawk8709]

We can only hope

[@chasehedges6775]

@@panzarhawk8709 Hope is a dangerous thing

[@rhyscallinan5058]

Oh no it's being translated but everytime it is the letter it's on is burned.

[@jedibusiness66]

The week of release is when I suddenly started seeing Shazam 2 TV spots with Wonder Woman (I just saw it as a desperate move; the studio suddenly seeing the writing on the wall, saying “PLEASE come see this movie! PLEASE!!) lol.

[@_e1i]

Distance makes multiculturalism work. It’s why we can afford to have a softer, more charitable take on Indian cinema than, say, black cinema (or, you know… the other race prominent in Hollywood), even though they both depict a clear hostility toward our people.

[@itsmecid2106]

I'm still convinced Will Smith slapping Chris Rock was staged to get people watching the Oscars. I feel like this year's picks being movies people actually liked along with winners not giving long idealogic or political acceptance speeches is a part of that too. I bet what Drinker mentioned about the people running the show telling everyone to keep the speeches simple and not getting preachy is exactly what happened. To top it off I also think Chris Rock waiting until just before the following years Oscars to release a special talking about it was also no coincidence. Just getting people to talk and think about the oscars again

[@aldunlop4622]

As a GenXer I have to say it’s my generation and the boomers to blame for young people having zero respect for the older generation now. We were raised by very strict parents that lived through WW2 and there was a militancy to parenting. We wanted a kinder, softer style and so kids were spoilt and constantly given positive messaging, so we now have a generation that thinks their ideas are “special” and they are “special” and everything they think is wiser than their parents.

[@ZillaTheTegu]

I have to disagree. I feel that GenX is probably the most well rounded of the generations. We grew up in the best time of our country, where we didnt have to worry about war, and was far enough from WW2 that we didnt feel its effects. Our parents raised us with the right amount of freedom and strictness. We also grew up with the tech boom, so we easily were integrated with the tech that the older generations didnt fit well with, but also before the influence of social media. There is a reason you hear people insult or complain about boomers and millennials and genz all the time, but your comment is the first time I have heard anyone mention GenX in like 10 years. Also its the boomers whos parents lived through WW2, not genx.

[@genmaicha.lapsang]

@@ZillaTheTegu I don't think GenX get's enough attention or research. I'm from Canada and I think that GenX is the most well rounded and healthy of the generations. They somehow avoided become as toxic as either the boomers or millennials. One thing that kind of bothered me about this podcast and some of the comments is that there is a romanticization of the past. Yes, we learn from our elders on and individual level because the human condition doesn't change. BUT on a social level there is A LOT OF PROBLEMS with the boomer generation. They wasted so much money and wealth on useless tat and are way too trusting of those with power. They are also very VERY entitled as much as millennials are, the boomers just don't realize it.

[@ez6888]

Man you guys really love your own smell huh

[@rhyscallinan5058]

I think the blame goes all around.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@rhyscallinan5058 Agreed

[@AmeliaBodilia]

Time stamps would make it a better experience for those who couldn’t join the live feed.

[@nicholasscott5905]

Gets to Stampin' then

[@joshjones9749]

Those direct to dvd disney sequels from 20ish ago are way better than today's theatre releases lol

[@TheAyeAye1]

James Hong is always epic.

[@spenser9908]

That Baggage Claim chick is frickin adorable.

[@thisisderricksilk]

If it isn't satisfying or maintaining an audience then it needs to get the axe.

[@christopherkenneally6015]

You would think that would be obvious to the execs in Hollywood/Disney/Amazon etc. but here we are

[@EvenTheDogAgrees]

Not necessarily. Because what you get by focusing only on audience size is what we got now: every time a good show comes out, it gets axed in the middle of the story, because the unwashed masses don't care for entertainment that expects you to _not_ turn off your brain. Meanwhile, reality TV is doing great.

[@TarossBlackburn]

I think people are making a rather large assumption that the Avengers actually work for or are employed by Tony and/or the company rather than Tony just having re-dubbed his penthouse/building as "The Avengers Tower" and everyone is just crashing there and using his stuff. If you want to get REALLY semantic about it, the Avengers work for a branch of the US Government under S.H.I.E.L.D. So why isn't S.H.I.E.L.D. paying them?

[@rhyscallinan5058]

I think they are, but it's a combined effort for both. Shield pays for them and gives them various accesses, and Stark pays for equipment, a place to group up and some techs like vehicles, weapons and devices. At least that's how it was explained in an old Avengers comic from about 25 years ago I read a while back.

[@johngolden3714]

Tombstone and Wyatt Earp came out around the same time, sort of. Tombstone at Christmas time 1993 and Wyatt Earp came out June of '94. About six months or so. Tombstone though is the far superior film.

[@maggotforever21]

Davey Jones is Scotish, too. Bill Nighy said "I decided to make him Scottish because all the other accents were taken.

[@randycliff4045]

flashback -- Merchandising, Merchandising, where the real money of the movie is made .. Spaceballs the T-Shirt, Spaceballs the colouring book, Spaceballs the lunchbox, Spaceballs the breakfast cereal, Spaceballs the flame-thrower (the kids love this one) .. last but not least, Spaceballs the doll -- ME (may the scwartz be with ya).

[@EvenTheDogAgrees]

Still waiting for Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money 🙁

[@sethkaicer319]

The drinker and I levitated beers to each other.

[@chasehedges6775]

The drinker is fun to watch

[@milo190872]

Olga Kurylenko was also Taskmaster in the Black Widow film

[@chasehedges6775]

She was also in the Hitman movie back in 2007. Pretty bad movie but much better than movies of nowadays.

[@kaliefaul1905]

Regarding the Oscars: I was VERY happy to see RRR win the award for Best Original Song. I watched it on March 2, and "Naatu Naatu" has been stuck in my head ever since. 😂

[@rajyavardhansingh4491]

Ok

[@carlrood4457]

James Hong was the maitre di in the Seinfeld Chinese Restaurant episode.

[@hyvakoira]

Really loved Banshees. It's very Becket-esque, just supposed to be absurd and lovely at the same time.

[@theargonath7938]

The Braveheart soundtrack is one of my all time favorites. Id put it right behind the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

[@SaraLittleWren]

Watched it yesterday, always loved the soundtrack, its a masterpiece.

[@chasehedges6775]

Loved the track Sons of Scotland. It’s a banger

[@chasehedges6775]

@@SaraLittleWren RIP James Horner

[@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917]

My interpretation of The Whale is that it's a tragedy because The Whale is actually the daughter. The daughter was his biggest mistake because he was obsessed with her, and his obsession made her the way she was. Yet, despite all the evidence that she's a bad girl he's still delusional and believes that she's good. The ultimate irony is that when he dies, the way it's shown, he falls on top of her, and his weight crushes her. If he'd just stopped being so obsessed with his idea of who she was she would have been fine, or at least not killed by him.

[@liamwright2510]

I really don’t think the thought of him falling and crushing her went into the script personally, I feel like if that was canon It would turn the film into a dark comedy 😂😂

[@TheGrimmGamer]

This is my first time hearing The Three Body Problem is getting an adaptation and I'm instantly looking forward to it.

[@anonymous3637]

Here's the free one kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6OvoKCmeZuYlc0

[@toadsmoothy]

The Whale - over eating at that level is a mental disease as much as Anorexia is. Some mask emotional pain through drugs or alcohol, others through over eating. Such people need, first and foremost, psychiatric care. I have struggled with this and have known others in the same boat. We are no more "victims of society" than any other addict. We are just human beings with internal struggles that overwhelm us. A good psychologist or psychiatrist can help. OA (Overeaters Anonymous) can help. Doctors and a good dietician can help. Going to the gym with a trainer or friend helps. Simple common human kindness - and tough love from friends and family helps. The character that angered me the most in this movies was the sister of his deceased lover. Rather than supplying healthy foods, she kept feeding him all this junk food. She was a nurse. She knew better. She had serious emotional problems of her own that involved keeping him unhealthy. She was a "feeder." It's an actual fetish. Considering the monstrous people in his life, this guy was doomed.

[@animelover1746]

1:46:42 that part with the Lion King and everything after that with women is so true and useful to know as a man

[@inthefade]

For Hateful Eight Tarantino used an old Ennio Morricone song that was unused from The Thing. It had been available and floating around online already so I was surprised to hear it in a modern movie.

[@JSPena]

2:09:18 I think it would be a great idea for the date I suggested because I think it’s appropriate and I want to hear your thoughts on the movies.

[@ga-eul21]

It’s incredible and somewhat sad that the most sane and rational social commentators are the people who just watch movies

[@chasehedges6775]

👍👍👍

[@aurahoneydew9607]

Wonder Woman was suppose to be the surprise cameo to blow your mind when watching but they're so desperate they had to break the glass

[@briangibbs1976]

The three body problem can be epic brought to the screen!!

[@richtea615]

The Message is only preaching to the already converted, since no one else is watching it.

[@collincutler4992]

Jesus Christ Jenna Ortega is flavor of the month right now...she's EVERYWHERE right now

[@chasehedges6775]

She’s a good actress

[@whade62000]

1:32:25 That's simply not true. Parodies means that a genre is still beloved. Y'know, beloved enough that you can blow a full movie budget on a film that relies on a film that requires that you know a bunch of other movies. Look at Star Wars, it's been parodied to hell and back by absolutely everybody and it only helped the IP. Don't think anybody's volunteered to make a sequels parody yet tho at a high budget.

[@nicholasvalentine2428]

When Drinker said James Hong "is about 95 years old" I thought he was saying he's super old but not really 95, like 83 or something. But damn he's actually 95 years old! Good on you sir.

[@mc-zy7ju]

We hit intentional parody of the superhero genre a few years ago with "The Boys"

[@dalewilliams2708]

Homelander is in a show called banshee he plays a con man taking on the sheriff identity youll love it

[@Сайтамен]

And now it became overtly woke superhero jenre.

[@james3876]

Superhero movie, the one with dwight from the office as well, there's been a few parodies now

[@junken13]

The Quantum of Solace song that Mauler mentioned was created and sung by Joe Cornish for a goofy song battle thing him and Adam Buxton did on their xfm podcasts

[@OsellaSquadraCorse]

I want a Quantum of Solace, but no more than a quantum. I know they do big bags of solace, but I don't want 'em...

[@roystonrubble7103]

I used to love A and J, songwars was awesome

[@junken13]

@@roystonrubble7103 that's what it was called! I completely forgot until you mentioned it. Quantum of solace was one of favs though

[@harryanders2877]

James Hong is a legend who has acted in Seinfeld and in Marco Polo (early 1980s), among many other roles of course, and was even in a Michael Douglas thriller in the early 1970s..

[@Dbriskit]

Wow, Baggage Claim is terrific. One of the smartest people you've had on the panel, with heaps of interesting & insightful points to make. More of her please.

[@nahkaboltsi6315]

simp

[@joehenry9546]

To answer your question Drinker about why there were no Baby Yoda Aka Grogu toys ready is because of how badly both Solo and Last Jedi Toys bombed. Hasbro/Kenner was reeling from those poor toy sales, and decided to play a wait and see with the popularity of the new Mandolarian show.

[@willamahrens538]

I can't believe Disney hasn't reimagined American Graffiti or THX-1138 yet.

[@nickdarr7328]

The real best example of flavor of the month actor is Liam Neeson. He was pretty much at the tail end of his career. He had a family. I also believe his wife wanted him to stop acting for family responsibility. Then you get offered a franchise and a shit ton of knock offs. Imagine how much time Liam would actually be on set for some of those movies? 95 percent of action would be a stunt double on camera. He was an actual teacher so I'm sure has a good memory and can take the weekend before the start of shooting to memorize everything. I bet he's spending 2 to 6 weeks on set and getting 2 to 20 million for 20 films. From 2010 to 2020 I'll bet he mad well over 150 million

[@phoebechristian3642]

This is a great quartet, didn't even feel like 3+ hours 👍👍👍

[@dmonbman779]

John Carpenter for soundtracks. It was all his own work... and so many copy him now.

[@WillFredward7167]

My favorite soundtrack still has to be the Two Towers by Howard Shore. Painting the themes of a cornered people brought to the brink, and a bereaved father forced to arm children for battle, still gets me.

[@jonbaxter2254]

Three Body Problem is utterly brilliant.

[@HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt]

The discussion of the D&D film begins at 1:09:30 . Stops almost immediately, then discussion of "Can't bring back T'Challa unless using Multiverse" etc. due to the fact that neither the panel nor the pseudo-writers of the MCU know anything of the comic-book precedents & tenets set down since 1965 which allow more than 5 ways in which characters to rise from a deceased-state (and whingers don't get to say "we're only talkin' boot da movies ya git!" because the MCU films take a LOT from the comics going back before Instascam-addicted half-wits were born). The discussion -almost immediately - shifts to RRR. (edit: they get back to the D & D film around 1:23:00 .)

[@NYGiantsfan1029]

To be fair even before Chadwick died there were rumors about Disney wanting to replace T’challa with Shuri

[@michaelplowman8674]

So if Wanda is totally forgiven for all the people she enslaved because she freed them in the end, does that apply to a certain group of people in world history who corrected that behavior also?

[@alexanderkastaniotis4097]

Baggage claim is wrong, unfortunately. Getting pregnant becomes more and more difficult for women over 30.