Drinker's Chasers - Acolyte "Fans" Try Cancelling Critics, Fail Hilariously

[@chance_ondriezek99]

I’m proud to say I didn’t watch a second of The Acolyte, but I watched everything the Drinker had to say about it

[@chasehedges6775]

Same here

[@fabianmaryanowski2252]

Same here, it seems its not even worth to pirate it 😂

[@easyyo6784]

same!

[@lsmola]

Absolutely the same goes for me.

[@Gornaldatron]

Ditto

[@dadocta5168]

This has been insanity: -The cope -The hypocrisy -The hatred/jealousy But remember, WE are the toxic side of Star Wars fans :)

[@fabianmaryanowski2252]

I am sure some of them really think thats the case. Holywood and journos are the worst of humanity condensed in a dew people. They are really evil, pray they never get real power....

[@JohnDoe-wj7ht]

Same goes for politics. They are all and more that they accuse the others to be.

[@MiketheratguyMultimedia]

They've been raging with hatred and bigotry and politically-charged insults because the show was canceled, and yet the show was canceled for poor viewership. I didn't watch so I guess I'm one of the guilty parties. Never have I been insulted in so many ways for actually doing so little.

[@Fleshbag453]

@@JohnDoe-wj7ht Have you seen the video of the Harris supporter trying to beat up a Trump supporter and running away like a bitch when he realized there was a camera? Was glorious to see.

[@heartysquid]

Welcome to the bigot side, we have the cookiees

[@Neil.02]

They're so used to getting what they want by crying loud enough that anyone who ignores it is considered an enemy, it's gross and pathetic.

[@sclarin2]

I was just having this conversation the other day. People with opposing ideas are no longer seen as just people with a different viewpoint they are seen as THE ENEMY who must be defeated no matter the cost. Nuance and perspective are dying fast.

[@ScooterDoge]

They’re the same people supporting Palestinian terrorist groups which hate them. They are deficient in their thinly bits.

[@zigmar2]

​@@sclarin2That's been the case for quite a while now. The fact that these people and their likes use the word "ally" shows that they're not actually interested in equality, peace and other buzzwords.

[@bottomlefto]

playground rules lmao

[@punknoodles0]

Like a child who was never told "no".

[@tubby1833]

I looked into the first couple of points of the document and it was insane. One of the things they claimed was that Geeks + Gamers was racist and initiated a harassment campaign against Kellie Marie Tran. One of their points that supposedly backed this claim up was that Geeks + Gamers insulted Tran's appearance by calling her "hideous." In reality, Geeks + Gamers was calling out Rian Johnson for wasting Kellie Marie Tran's acting potential and managing to make a beautiful actress look hideous by putting her in a bad costume. It's crazy because the sources they cited even showed Geeks + Gamers praising Kellie Marie Tran, calling her a sweetheart, a wonderful person, saying he was happy Tran got a role in Raya and the Last Dragon and condemning the actual harassment Tran received on instagram. Geeks + Gamers was literally doing the exact opposite of what they accused him of doing and they tried to take away his livelihood for it. Obviously, not all Disney Star Wars fans are despicable, but the people who created that document are. I asked a bunch of them for some sources on Twitter, and none of them answered me and 1 actually blocked me. They're insane.

[@farrel13sw]

Tran was amazing in sweet tooth. I couldn’t believe it was the same actress.

[@1_underthesun]

Page 3 of the playbook. "Accuse others of what you yourself are guilty of". It's similar to projection, but with projection people often don't realize they're projecting. This is far more insidious as they're well aware they're accusing others of the very things they're doing, and they're only doing it so it makes it harder for someone to then accuse them of said thing. They do it because should someone come back with "no, YOU'RE the one doing such and such", they can respond with "really? I know you are but what am I? That's all you got?"

[@Veritas.Studios.Channel]

Yes, just a few days ago, I was telling my daughters how they made Kelly Marie Tran look like a sack of potatoes with a fringe. But they didn't do that with Rey/Ridley...

[@elanortriestoart6447]

​@@1_underthesunthis is the basic Among Us strategy of accusing others to throw shade off of one's self. It's not a good plan long-term, because people assume you've got something to hide if you keep accusing other people. Same basic principle here.

[@victorcates9330]

With any phenomenon (I hate that word - so many Ns and Ms), you typically ask 1) what am I looking at and 2) what does it mean?. Ok. People harassed Tran. You could try and quantify the number of tweets (or posts or whatever) and get a figure on what percentage were mean and what percentage were overtly racist or sexist. If someone used a slur, then that's unambiguous. If someone derided Tran's looks (absent a narrative or marketing reason), then there's a clear argument misogynistic effect. But instead they lumped in mild criticism and more offensive language. They had a quote that seemed to highlight Stenberg's race and gender in a worrying way, and placed it next to Nerdrotic's use of the phrase "adult pretender" - which is just a technically accurate description of an actor. It just seemed like they put together a bunch of unrelated events and didn't do any mental work to draw a logical line. So Geeks and Gamers is somehow related to Milo Y(?). I could probably make a somewhat effective version of their argument. I doubt it would pass scientific muster, but it would be more compelling than guilt by extremely tenuous association. I wouldn't voluntarily include weak links or details that are able to be complicated or completely disproven.

[@tylergoodman3560]

The Acolyte "fans": We're gonna cancel those who oppose us. Me: Bold strategy Cotton; Let's see how it works out for them. 😂🎉

[@Apophis1010]

All 25 of them

[@All2Meme]

Especially since The Critical Drinker, MauLer, and Nerdrotic by themselves have WAY more fans than The Acolyte could ever hope to have.

[@Trevor_Schindler]

Dodgeball!

[@Volkbrecht]

What do they plan to do with the people who simply didn't watch the show?

[@All2Meme]

@@Volkbrecht Force them to watch it, I guess.

[@piercedbylight]

There is only ONE reason the Acolyte was canceled: the viewership was abysmally low. Add to that: the merch was not moving out of the big retailers and they knew they had to cut their losses. It's purely a business decision.

[@lockwoodthexton]

There was merch?

[@versecontro4898]

Yeah they dont understand the economy let alone business.

[@inendlesspain4724]

@@versecontro4898 Such is the level of economic literacy you can expect from a gender studies graduate.

[@richtes]

Are you saying I won’t be able to buy a throbbing lightsaber?

[@scionofdorn9101]

@@richtesI came with one installed. 👍

[@AHersheyHere]

Amandla doesn’t ‘f*** with yo discourse’ and then they want to silence their discourse.

[@ephraimwinslow]

Doing the exact opposite of what you advertise yourself as doing is literally line 1 page 1 of wokeness.

[@McDLT999999999999999]

They cry out as they strike you.

[@fr0ck360]

They’ll do everything to paint actual fans as the “bad guys”. Actual parasite behavior. I bet they make fake accounts crying and shouting “woke” buzzword on purpose to paint them in bad light on Twitter

[@turokk3352]

Check out Critical Diverse Female. Great video on this topic.

[@darrellcovello7917]

Projection 100

[@progunil]

the funniest thing is everyone said disney was gonna ruin star wars and they said “no no. we’re not gonna ruin it” and then they ruined it.

[@tetsuo3k]

It's wild! I'm still kind of in denial that this year is happening. Activist games are flopping hard, real games are making record-breaking sales, and now KZbin refuses to bend the knee to weirdo Star Wars "fans" who only want to silence critics. The world is beginning to heal.

[@hawkdsl]

Long way to go... very long way.

[@hayleylongster4698]

KZbin only didn't bow because these channels make them too much money in adsense.

[@stephenmcdonagh2795]

@@hayleylongster4698 Russel Brand was demonetised by ytu based on trumped up charges made by the the same channel that employed him, cha4... 20yrs after these events were supposed to happen. They searched out so many who said, no, he did nothing wrong with me, and picked only the women who probably felt used to spread this demonisation narrative. This was done because he'd left the media bubble and started questioning their nefarious leanings.

[@Sentinel82]

​@@hayleylongster4698 Whatever works. They are a company, so they are supposed to chase profit.

[@maryasuestark5208]

I like your optimism but there's a long road full of woke potholes still ahead.

[@RetrospectWindow]

KZbin needs BASIC transparency. I've had comments flagged and YT has given me warnings... but they never say exactly what was wrong or even show me the comment in question. Hard to "learn the lesson" when they won't even show you the book!

[@ephraimwinslow]

Dude? Content moderation online runs on the same rules as a 12 year old girl's treehouse. The TOS might as well just say: "No icks." For all the clarity and objectivity involved in their actual enforcement.

[@LordBaktor]

But if you get to know what you supposedly did wrong, then you might be able to present a counter argument.

[@sclarin2]

Yeah shadow banning YT comments is some elementary school level bs

[@noneya7018]

The same platform that allows porn, violence and racist (actually racist, not just none woke people) then tries to virtue signal with their "TOS" is always hilarious to me. I make sure to tell them to gfts every time.

[@Saint_Sigismund]

Lucky! They just delete my comments without saying anything and then stop giving me reply notifications.

[@Adelina-293]

Now their failure is complete.

[@Zapp__Brannigan]

I read that in the Emperor's voice.

[@MSgt5J071]

​@@Zapp__BranniganDidn't Darth Vader say that during the light Saber duel with Luke in ROTJ when Vader figured out Leia was Luke's sister?

[@Zapp__Brannigan]

@@MSgt5J071 Oh my gosh, you're right. Well, this is embarrassing. Now I have to turn in my Star Wars fan card.

[@MSgt5J071]

@@Zapp__Brannigan Um, no. You got most of it right. It would have been most appropriate for The Emperor to say that. Minor mistake, but you got the spirit of it right. You are a true Star Wars fan. You and I and the Star Wars fans must stand up to those who wish to stand against the Star Wars lore,particularly the Disney Star Wars lore and Rebel against the LGBTQIA and Woke lore that has assaulted Star Wars. They do not understand what we know. They do not understand what we grew up with. We understand the Star Wars universe. They don't. Do they care? Apparently nor. So who is wrong? Us? The fans? Or is it them? Easy question if you ask me...

[@Nytephyre]

Didn't fail completely, though. Some like Nerdrotic were demonetized.

[@patrickdepoortere6830]

They turned your pub into a gay bar but don't have enough patrons to make a profit.

[@BowlCrossy]

You forgot the part where they abuse you for not turning up and continuing to patronize the place, even though it barely resembles the bar you enjoyed frequenting.

[@DamienDarkside]

Gay bars are actually wanted because they serve a purpose.

[@Nightdare]

Marvelous Analogy!

[@machupikachu1085]

And then they tell you not to show up, because the place isn't for you, and then try to have you arrested for a hate crime for not showing up and showing your support for the bar.

[@ISmith-ye4ff]

Never saw anything from the Acolyte. All I did was watch Drinker and Star Wars Theory

[@piercedbylight]

Drinker and Little Platoon were far more entertaining than the actual show, which was plodding and confused, if I'm being generous.

[@GideonRavenor712]

Watched Drinker, Az, Gary, Platoon, Disparu. All you need to see breakdowns of the show.

[@richtes]

@@GideonRavenor712Disparu with the female reader voice was way more entertaining than the show

[@PA-wf8ws]

There’s got to be a great compilation to be made with interviews of directors and actors saying, “This wasn’t made for you!” smash-cut to “Why didn’t any of you watch it!?”

[@rpgghost1689]

They cut a Jedi Wookie fight for "budget" reasons, Star Wars fans aren't in charge of star wars

[@pyorre2441]

What, 22 million per episode was not enough to have a stuntman in Wookie costume fight another person? They really where grifting this series where they.

[@House-Atreides]

I was hoping he was going to fight with his red rocket sticking…you know, that thing dogs have. Would have made the show way better.

[@inendlesspain4724]

@@pyorre2441 Part of me wants to believe they aren't actually laundering money or anything like that, but that they really are so incompetent, irresponsible and spontaneous/arbitrary with their budget management that they can easily burn $20million+ on a single episode of a terrible show.

[@GideonRavenor712]

Case in point. First Wookie Jedi, no characterization to him at all and we get one non-fight that was nonsense for showing off how strong a Wookie would be, effectively.

[@richtes]

@@House-Atreideswhat if he beat someone with his metal detector?

[@Bellethiele]

I'm so, so, SO happy that throwing a tantrum is slowly no longer being considered an acceptable way of getting what you want. It was about damn time.

[@Rakshiir]

Took WAY to long, but similar to the reaction to bad shows and/or movies: the people standing up against it (or simply ignore it to fail) is getting bigger and bigger. Took longer than I would have liked, but it certainly takes up speed. And thats a good thing.

[@petriew2018]

Fun fact : this 'grass roots' movement comes from a website owned by a lucasfilm employee....

[@MiketheratguyMultimedia]

Even now the delirious lunacy of the woke crowd can still manage to astonish me. None of us got the show taken off the air, poor viewership did. Disney and their obnoxious, smug diversity hires created a crappy show with crappy writing featuring crappy characters who crapped all over the brand. So we're to blame because we chose not to watch? What were we supposed to do then, watch anyway to provide moral support? Absolute ridiculousness.

[@Sentinel82]

It makes sense when you realize they are all Marxists.

[@GideonRavenor712]

Oh but you see, if nobody talked negatively about the show, its ratings wouldn't have been so poor, right? LOL It's ridiculous the mental gymnastics they do to avoid saying the show sucked.

[@mrjohnnyk]

They did the same thing with that Concord game that got cancelled shortly after it released. Supposedly it's all our fault because we didn't buy some video game from people who openly hate us.

[@beesi4932]

The irony is, the vast majority of them didn't watch it either.

[@anthonyzullo]

Nah, they hired a couple actually good actors and probably coaxed them into this story under the guise of secrecy, it is a Disney production. They also CLEARLY laundered the budget because there simply isnt any way they spent ALL that money in this. Plus no one is even talking about the obvious DEI stuff because the show is so bad outright that everyones critiscm is on the actual show as/is/in general. The show was trash. Ive seen better shows not get renewed

[@cynthiajohnson9412]

Drinker has a point, in the U.S. we still have anti-trust laws on the books that keep people from colluding for the purposes of 'restraint of trade'. You have the right to say what you want and even band together and boycott, but you can't coordinate an effort to take sellers out of the market place in order to promote other sellers. And that concept protects the business of 'selling' ideas as well. The freedom to boycott operates under the principle of persuasion - you want to convince customers to eschew something, that's your right. Knock yourself out. You want to ban them from the market place completely or withhold their income, that falls into the realm of creating monopolies on, in this case, ideas. And it creates 'trusts' that become arbiters of all that is acceptable to say and think. We don't grant that right to anyone, even Supreme Court rulings can be overturned. It's not just free speech principles at stake when it's a person's livelihood, once you start effing with economics then real enforceable laws (not just wildly subjective, boo-hoo, hurt feelings laws) come into play.

[@billienews]

Wow, that was thoughtfully said. Thank you for sharing that

[@MillennialForChrist]

​@@billienewsI concur!

[@cynthiajohnson9412]

@@billienews Google (owners of KZbin) are gonna be facing some massive anti-trust lawsuits already in the works in the next few years coming from the advertising sector (and others) that will no doubt threaten the corporation at its core for past collusion. So it seems they've wised up and are (at the very least, finally) protecting their creators, lest their hundreds of millions of creators ban together and launch a 'restraint of trade' class action too. Russell brand kind of hinted at something he has brewing based on the sleazy tricks they pulled on him last Fall. Google better get their ducks in a row and at least get straight on who provides them their bread and butter. P.S. If you want to know my sources on this, they would be primarily Matt Stoller, something of an anti-trust expert, via Glenn Greenwald's System Update podcast. And constitutional lawyer and media powerhouse Robert Barnes, who does a legal show on KZbin and Rumble Sunday nights at 6PM with Viva Frei. I like to follow what crooked-ass baddies are getting their asses kicked in court on a weekly basis - both informative and entertaining.

[@cynthiajohnson9412]

Constitutional lawyer Robert Barnes is a big Drinker fan. I'd sleep better myself knowing he'd be in my corner if I ever ran into any real legal trouble, both legally and public relations wise. He represented the Covington Catholic kids, I'm pretty sure pro bono, after seeing the story break while he was on vacation in Mexico. Barnes made CNN cry and apologize to the kids they defamed and I think he got a hefty undisclosed settlement for Nick Sandmann. He sounded ready to launch legal action for false advertising to kids based on Drinker's review of 'Barbie', as I recall. Barnes, like Drinker, was really, really mad. He's currently representing Amish farmers in Pennsylvania over food freedom rights. And he's involved in half a dozen vaccine cases, some with RFK jr. Anyway, if Drinker ever had the chance to do Viva Frei's (Barnes' partner) show, I'd advise he totally do it. I would definitely want to make close personal friends with them! Barnes is extremely principled and he scares the shit out of all the baddies, which is why he's one of my personal heroes. Go Barnes! P.S. Barnes mentioned the critics who were being colluded against in order to prompt action from KZbin last night and was totally on the side of Nerdrotic, Drinker, and the other guys. From the expression on his face, he looked like he was ready to issue a 'don't even think about it' letter to KZbin on their behalf. And Viva was already formulating legal theories on how to defend those guys.

[@cynthiajohnson9412]

Oh and just to clarify Barnes' objection to the Barbie movie, it wasn't the anti-male bias that enraged him, although I think he found that unsavory. It was the smashing of the baby dolls in the opening scene that Barnes felt was thinly veiled pro-abortion propaganda and that really got his goat. And while I'm pro-choice myself, as in the content of another woman's uterus is none of my business, I am decidedly anti-pro-abortion. That's just sick. And propagandizing children is appalling.

[@peytonthomas4338]

Classic example of writers not taking responsibility for the fact that they just wrote a bad script

[@notacyborg1717]

Yeah, how can they not see that.

[@HowToChangeName]

Im really jealous on how flexible their job when it comes to risk and outcome

[@BowlCrossy]

@@notacyborg1717 Two words: Echo Chamber.

[@Nightdare]

Bland performances didn't improve matters either

[@HowToChangeName]

Remember when SBI Detected was under fire by SBI and game journalist? Does that fuel the raging inferno? Absolutely! Does Disney learn from that blunder? Lol nope

[@ephraimwinslow]

Genre Fans: Stop blithely and artlessly screwing with the canon of IPs I'm actually invested in. Schills: Why do you care about either??? IPs and canon don't matter. Inserting tactless social commentary, ambiguously-gendered language, and homely "females" (whatever that means) into things does. Get with the times. And remember... group two claim to be the "real" fans... of things they actively ARGUE are irrelevant, and unworthy of concern or investment.

[@ephraimwinslow]

Irrelevant beyond their potential as vehicles for tactless social messaging* There, fixed it.

[@Pharozos]

"Why do you care?" while they try to change everything. Never trust them. Snakes.

[@inendlesspain4724]

@@Pharozos "Accuse others of what you yourself are guilty of" must be their mantra. Whether it's about hàrássment or caring about the IPs they're actively trying to ruin.

[@seekertosecrets]

Homely means unattractive or plain looking.

[@ephraimwinslow]

@@seekertosecrets Was referring to the word female in character as a gender fluid salesman.

[@JimThePerson]

It’s funny how modern live action Star Wars and animated Star Wars is polar opposites in terms of quality

[@MiketheratguyMultimedia]

What I don't get is the anomaly that is Rogue One, Andor and the first couple of seasons of Mando. How did quality content like that manage to slip through the Disney machine?

[@alphax4785]

It was marginal stuff that slipped KK's notice at the time... and look at how it all failed immediately once the bigwigs took notice of it.

[@YourRaincloud]

I know! Bad Batch was so satisfying to watch all the way through. I can’t believe that snuck through ….

[@BowlCrossy]

@@MiketheratguyMultimedia Yes, Andor in particular. I thoroughly enjoyed that one, and I'm half looking forward to season 2 but am expecting they will taint it like they have every other recent production. The first two seasons of Mando really captured the Space Western feel, and then I remember watching the first episode of season 3 where they're holding a ceremony near the water, they get attacked by some monster and suddenly everyone is now an idiot. Mando gets some pointless quest to go back to Mandalore to reclaim his heritage. Starbuck becomes the focus of the series. The quality certainly dropped off a cliff between seasons 2 and 3...

[@rudyignaciobarbosavargas1833]

I could never understand why the necessity of canceling someone, just don't watch their f*ing content

[@nerdock4747]

That's the point sergeant, they want everyone to not watch it.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

It's the cancel culture, which is so sad. The "woke" started with good intentions, to give more opportunities to "minorities", be more "inclusive", to scream about your "gender identity" (whatever, it's their body, if they want to go through all those crazy hormonal changes, let them be, that doesn't make them monsters or abominations). But at the moment the masses gave too much attention to the Twitter hellholes, these Twitter dwellers noticed how their "cancellation" worked with some "celebrities" and "influencers", that is some sort of delusional "power"... from that moment things spiraled out of control. Human society came up with the judiciary system to judge what can be consider uncivilized, immoral and criminal, social media doesn't have the power and jurisdiction to judge anything, but they had a taste of that and the rest is a ugly history. Of all trends I've ever seen, including the emo trend that was super highlighted in my childhood, the "woke" trend is the ugliest I've ever seen, pretty much a testing ground for the horseshoe theory. And I don't think the "woke" trend is to blame, not at all, social media is to blame, it twists and poisons everything it touches. The only positive aspect of social media is how we can practice foreign languages for free, that's it

[@kongfeet81]

Kyle Katarn putting out a video showing him buddying up to Kathleen Kennedy tells me all I need to know about him

[@joshdrasticmeasures]

I got blocked when I asked him to show me the proof of racism, as I am a black man and could easily see it 😂

[@mr_z_____]

Funny thing is that Kyle Katarn as a character is erased by Disney, but someone is using this name to support Disney...

[@crazyralph6386]

@@mr_z_____yep, the irony is palpable.

[@draynah14]

I hate that this name, which belongs to such a cool character, is currently associated with a lame douchebag.

[@Veritas.Studios.Channel]

And he is ruining the name 'Kyle Katarn.' I LOVED JEDI OUTCAST!!!

[@gaijinhakase1575]

Saying that fans “just like to hate” the crap they’ve made is ridiculous. Imagine that you love your children dearly (duh), then one day you come downstairs and find two complete strangers wearing your kids’ clothes and eating your food. They’re rude, lazy, obnoxious and dishonest. Now when you refuse to call them by your kids’ names and tell them to get out of your house, you get called all kinds of horrible things…that’s basically Disney Star Wars from the eyes of a fan. I’m angry because I love my kids, and I don’t know who tf is sitting in my kitchen but it ain’t them.

[@Sentinel82]

Perfect analogy. 🤣

[@reg4211]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@supercasualgamer513]

Great point. Beautifully illustrated lol Equal parts accurate and creative 💯

[@user-zq6sz2cr6g]

I think your kids may have recently entered adolescence. Seriously though, there's no forgiving D for what they've done to the franchise.

[@le_fancy_squid]

From the bottom of my heart, I would so much rather love Star Wars than hate it. I can't tell you how excited I was to watch 'Episode 7' when it first came out, I was a kid again in the theater. I was also really excited to watch 'Rouge One' and 'The Mandalorian' too, but with 'Episode 8', 'Solo', 'Mandalorian Season 2', and then especially 'Book of Boba Fett', I just gave up on Disney ever making a quality Star Wars production. And every time I look back now it's even worse than it was before... I mean it when I say it, if Disney pulled a miracle and made an incredible Star Wars movie I would still be there to watch it, even after all of their absolute failures.

[@abletobeconfused]

They can’t give us that “one film with a cool dude swinging a lightsaber” because it will obliterate all the other schlock so badly and they can’t handle that embarrassmen

[@seeyouauntie]

How is anyone anywhere still watching anything made by Disney? Marvel and Lucasfilm died the day Disney put pen to paper.

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯💯

[@chasehedges6775]

Put the pen on the dotted line.

[@petriew2018]

I mean, that's the problem here innit? This person is losing their mind because Disney cancelled a show nobody watched

[@Saint_Sigismund]

Marvel did fine under Disney until phase 5

[@metaloverlord7465]

@@Saint_Sigismund And phase one Marvel was awesome!

[@AncestorEmpire1]

Star Wars explained and his cabal try to cancel their critics: “HA HA, THAT YOUR BEST?”-Shao Khan voiceover

[@Ob1sdarkside]

Space Ice and Rob Schneider 😂

[@mr.awesome6011]

Rob Schneider is a Carrot! Rated PG-13

[@paulysmallz8095]

Rob Schneider is a stapler

[@e.p.s.9037]

Both added about the same to the debate though

[@richtes]

@@e.p.s.9037There’s a bit of an art to inserting yourself into a group discussion when you’re not one of the lead dogs. Very different than solo.

[@Blisterdude123]

@@e.p.s.9037 I've not seen him do many panel-style discussions, so I'm assuming this is one of his first, and it can be surprisingly intimidating. You kinda want to strike a balance between having something to add, but not talking over long-established voices, or feeling you're pushing to hard into a community you're new to. You often see some newer people not saying much because you've got all that in your head and it's easy to end up 'too' cautious in chiming in because of that. Hopefully he pops up in a few more because the more you do it, the better a sense you get for the flow of conversation, and building confidence.

[@neoblakkrstal9865]

I used to be all for "I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to speak it." But no more, like Tim Pool said, if someone is all about free speech, I support their right to speak, even if we disagree, but if someone wants to play the cancellation game, then they have forfeited their right to receive that protection. If they have their speech squashed, then they are reaping what they have sown.

[@Brian_Boru]

Tim Pool, the traitor who gets paid by Putin and Russia to vomit their talking points all over America? That Tim Pool?

[@Nightdare]

You might call it "The self defense of freedom of speech" One may not murder another, but one is entitled to protect their own life from murderous action "I'm going to censor you" would be the metaphoric equivalent of "I'm going to murder you"

[@medigoomnis]

Space Ice joined? I better go watch this full episode.

[@Paul-zs7rd]

Space Ice !!! Dude looks like a rockstar. The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance was an incredible and highly rated show, but it didn't get a season 2 due to not enough viewership of season 1. The Acolyte was utter crap, so let it continue? Hell no.

[@zedekial777]

Don't remind me. I want more Hup :(

[@ephraimwinslow]

Incredible is a stretch. The Gelflings were somehow made even lamer than they were in the movie with bad GOT fantasy politics and the-current-year girlbossing. The Skeksis are always fun though.

[@Jasper_Silva]

Shame on Mauler! I was an Acolyte fan trying to watch my favorite TV show and he personally showed up at my house and stood in front of my TV set making it impossible to watch. This kind of coordinated attack is why the show failed!

[@timmholl9238]

I had a Scottish guy show up - and I reside in the middle of the U.S.

[@frostreaper1607]

😂

[@randommulato8871]

Worst part is the episode was 35 minutes long, but Mauler stood there for 12 hours straight.

[@benbindseil7026]

Yes! Space Ice on Open Bar.

[@rustyelder]

They made a show for an audience and that audience didn't show up. - That says it all.

[@thp4315]

SPACE ICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@HowToChangeName]

Rob Schneider

[@JohnWickWorld]

i wish he talked more. I feel like he just sat there the whole stream.

[@rocketrockstar8171]

Mr Stephen Segal himself!

[@Rkbmaxxx]

Looks like he was doing his best not to "twitch" 😂😂😂😂🤘

[@eldeano9964]

Where he showed the world...

[@ShyKatana]

Space Ice chilling, looking like a 80's action hero!

[@annemackay4945]

So exciting to see Space Ice here!!!

[@Galjamakarova6ks2b-wx1ed]

Now this is what I needed today!

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

They are ruled by their emotions and not by common sense and that is why they will always lose in the end for critical thinking, reason and logic will always beat out emotional outbursts, gaslighting and illogical.

[@moncoppyton]

The darkness can not comprehend the light.

[@p.piggly.hogswine]

Great to see Space Ice (and Snarky Jay recently)!

[@seansmith4513]

Grandma always used to say "Just put your clean glass next to their dirty glass. People will notice all on their own." I have found this to be very true. The harder you push, the less people tend to side with you.

[@Beard_Hood]

I get into disagreements with my wife all the time, she buys into all the bs. She thinks my corner of the internet just like to hate. She can't fathom that we actually love deeply. We are just mad everything has been turned to crap and we haven't been allowed to voice our criticism without being called horrible people. I told her, the thing that I am worried is that the people abusing language and policies will push people so far that when retribution comes... it will be without mercy. I think we are rapidly coming, and I can't blame anyone. She agreed saying "of course their retribution will be too much, all those racists only want to hurt people." ... you can't convince someone who doesn't see you as human.

[@Apophis1010]

Maybe watch the shows with her and point out exactly how and where the bad writing is. Its not blind hate, its criticizing bad bad writing

[@toms7114]

I'm sorry that your wife doesn't see you as human. You should talk to a divorce lawyer, and get a therapist involved so you can explain to your wife how her dismissal of you as a person makes you feel. I don't think your wife will ever be able to admit that what she is doing is wrong. So for your own well being I think that you will need to leave her. Be strong, do what is right for you, no matter what anyone else tells you to do.

[@ephraimwinslow]

Good luck with either the eventual divorce, or a lifetime of co-dependent misery. RIP.

[@sclarin2]

Hope you didn't marry my ex wife bc this sounds exactly like her.

[@realmdma]

Props to you for not divorcing her already lol

[@BlazingOwnager]

haha didn't expect to see Space Ice here.

[@nerdock4747]

Or Mark Kern. 0_o

[@alphacause]

As Voltaire once said: "I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord make my enemies ridiculous.' And God granted it." I think that quote perfectly fits the small subset of activists who try to get online critics canceled.

[@messire9837]

Voltaire de "won hand only", yes indeed. Hey, bro... I don't know if it's possible for you to get a 'Micromegas' copy in english as a PDF, but if you can, you should definitely read it. Don't miss out! (47 pages long)

[@brandonm4550]

If the alleged quiet majority actually showed up to watch this trash show it wouldn’t be canceled. If anyone is dumb enough to think Disney cancels anything based on KZbin channels they’re smokingcrack. $180m production budget + unknown marketing budget which was at least $50m coupled with lost subscribers and horrible numbers is getting canceled.

[@PrometheanRising]

It's a totem. They don't actually want to watch it. They expect the actual fandom to pretend that nothing has changed.

[@paxromana1982]

Holy shit space ice!!!! Soooo happy to see him on with you guys!!

[@andrewharrison1194]

I think Gary is safe. 😆

[@marndt8448]

My wife can definitely be described as a woke ally and is part of the target audience for The Acolyte. She watched every episode, so I decided to watch the final episode with her to check it out and then ask her opinion on the series. Without any prompting the first words out of her mouth to me as the credits rolled was: “Well that was crap” lol.

[@itchyomalley]

The late Kevin Samuels said it best. It's called SIGN language; Shame - Insults - Guilt and the Need to be righteous. Often done in that order.

[@MustertheBrohirrim]

The power of cope The power of blame The power of ratings

[@JBJointsBrother]

6:01.... And those two male leads STILL had to play second fiddle to annoying "girl bosses", who hijacked their show....

[@matthewcollins4773]

Drinker: "What did I *do* last night?" "You cancelled The Acolyte" "I don't remember that, but sure."

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

Space Ice on the Drinker channel!!! How the hell did I miss this?

[@wanfu5634]

The tactics of heckler's veto and shouting down the opposition with threats of staining peoples' reputation are dying.

[@eldeano9964]

They did the same tactic with gamergate, where sarkeesian and quinn etc gaslighted the reetoo movement into making them the victims

[@gamerkingdom1442]

Got to give it to KZbin, they stood their ground against these delusional “fans”. They’ve exposed who’s really the “TOXIC FANS”, and it’s not the channels they attacked!! 😁

[@Veritas.Studios.Channel]

“If you want to picture the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.” - George Orwell '1984'

[@kargen1963]

The best thing to come out of the Acolyte was the HISHE

[@HowToChangeName]

And Pitch Meeting

[@Solly-Tom]

Among other failings, they overcomplicated Star Wars. Here's the plot to Episode 4 (which was episode 1, but whatever): The Hero rescues the Princess from the Evil Wizard's fortress, then slays the dragon. Star Wars is fairy tales, Saturday serials, and pulp comics. Simple.

[@johnhoran9840]

Woke ideology makes quantum theory seem like kindergarten arithmetic.

[@loveandgamingxx1744]

They only win when we're quiet

[@mrjohnnyk]

It's why they're always trying to silence us.

[@eldritchmorgasm4018]

Stupidity needs to be schooled, laziness needs to be punished, ego needs to be crushed, incompetence needs to be purged!

[@HowToChangeName]

Did you just assumed my intelligent capacity? This is bigotry!

[@garrick3727]

They're trying to do the same thing they do on Discord or Reddit - control the Fandom. That's what a lot of this is about. They control all the text Fandoms but KZbin is the most popular medium by far and they hate that they cannot control all the Fandom content.

[@Rakshiir]

I would respectfully disagree with MauLer here. Those who currently try to cancel certain youtube channels are not the toxic Star Wars fans. Those aren't Star Wars fans. They are only fans of the activism in the Acolyte, they are neither fans of the actual show nor of Star Wars. They are simply toxic activists. Nothing less, nothing more, Star Wars is just the thing they use now to try to cancel anyone that doesn't share their world view. As someone who loved Star Wars (until Disney took over), I would not let them into the fanbase. Yes, I would Gatekeep, because they are just filthy angry toxic people. I want people in the fanbase who love the franchise, who share their passion for the universe George Lucas created. Not some parasites who love the political agenda Disney put into it, the hideous thing Disney made Star Wars.

[@averagejoe1977-jkl]

Why has no one talked about the Gendy Tartakovsky Star Wars masterpiece: The “micro” Clone Wars?! How to save Star Wars in two easy steps. Fire the entirety of the current Disney Lucas Film upper management starting with Kathleen Kennedy and including Filoni, hire someone with a proven track record like Tartakovsky who loves the source material, print money.

[@Vollce]

SPACE ICE! drinker and pals finally met legend.

[@doberski6855]

'How did it feel watching something you love being crushed'? Well as a fan of classic Star Trek, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and the Terminator and Alien franchises. I have been devastated by what has happened to them for modern audiences in support of 'The Message'.

[@santanu-fr]

Space Ice & his eternal gripe with Rob Schneider

[@alexcottrell6094]

The little platoon made an absolute banger of a series ripping on the acolyte and a 13 hour super cut i highly recommend it. I watched it multiple times good job LP.

[@juan.nassiff]

Space Ice and the Drinker, dreams do come true.

[@shiningunknown01]

I wanted a season 2 just so i could see you guys reviews.

[@jebacimvammater4632]

Oh i didnt know you guys knew about Space Ice. Thats nice!

[@JamesF-v4x]

Who doesn’t want to learn about another MEGA BLOCKBUSTER HIT MOVIE?

[@jebacimvammater4632]

@@JamesF-v4x THAT SHOWED THE WORLD ... HOW MUCH FKD UP HOLLYWOOD REALLY IS!

[@dp2901]

They try to strike you down but you become more powerful than they can possibly imagine.

[@paulab5264]

Silencing people who criticize you is a slippery slope to fascism. Back in the day movie critics were merciless, people feared Pauline Kael back in 1980, and she wasn't too kind to Star Wars the original. Even Siskel and Ebert would give thumbs down to the Acolyte. Constructive criticism is necessary for growth in any field. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.

[@TokyoTraveller]

The canceling of 1... The canceling of 2... The canceling of manyyyyy....

[@MikhailSamunin]

5:28 There's been Cal Kestis but he's from the games _Jedi: Fallen Order_ and _Survivor_ - the best thing that's happened to _Disney's Star Wars._

[@Zathren]

I've not played Survivor yet, so I can't speak on it. But even you must notice the hand of Woke gripping Cal's neck in the first game. He's fighting mostly women, all are supposed to be better than him (gameplay they're not) all of his support is women except for a little alien coward. Even the boss fights Cal doesn't get to win. Someone comes in and finishes the job for him because we can't have a man beating a woman. The only exception is the 9th sister but she dies of camera so she might be in the sequel.

[@MikhailSamunin]

@@Zathren The supporting cast of _Fallen Order_ - all 2 of them - is for most of the game gender-equal. Cere is more important but given that the main character is male, I'd say men still win. Also Cal defeats the Second Sister in the finale and kills the Ninth Sister in _Survivor._ 2 main antagonists of _Survivor_ are male with sympathetic motives and it reveals that Cere Junde's white male master Eno Cordova is still alive and adds him to the cast. And if all of that isn't enough, I wasn't trying to say that _Fallen Order_ and _Survivor_ are free of wokeness, only that their main character is a badass white male with, as of _Survivor,_ blossing heterosexual relationships.

[@thor3279]

whoa! The Drinker, Space Ice, Gary, Echo, MauLer together! I've not run across Grummz before but will check out as I love the accompaniment!

[@craxyman9025]

Space Ice is in the building!

[@comentariopolitico1014]

The real problem is that the "MODERN AUDIENCE" believes to be way, way larger than it really is. They managed to add people who live in the same bubble like KK to positions where they did all this damage. They played themselves.

[@onewingedmoogle]

I don't think even they are deluded enough to think you guys caused The Acolyte's cancellation. This is just them throwing a tantrum directed at people they don't like. After they failed to guilt and shame Disney into renewing the series, they decided to take out their frustrations on you instead.

[@christopherbataluk8148]

Star Wars makes high school drama club productions as filtered through a corporate HR department and written by an incompetent ideological hack. The results are terrible schlock that's incomprehensibly expensive.

[@EastyyBlogspot]

Its getting really old now that they cannot take any forms of criticism at all, all the KZbinrs are not saying anything racists or sexist only bringing up those issues when mentioned by the those same people who use the ist and phobics to deflect from genuine criticism

[@carlrood4457]

It's not even a "Are we the baddies?" moment. It's an "Are we the normies?" moment. They can still want what they want, but have to realize that they're an extreme minority and most people aren't interested. I've been to conventions and realize that I'm closer to "normie" than most, but I still know comics and sci-fi are a niche fandom and most people outside it don't want a blow by blow explanation of Hawkman continuity. JUst because I care doesn't mean anyone else does.

[@triggerfingerstudios]

Space Ice!!!

[@michaelmcclintick9541]

Wow Critical Drinker, I love it, you bringing all the youtubers that I watch on to Open Bar. SnarkyJay, Nerdotic and now Spce Ice!!!! Wish he would have spoke.

[@DTMiner1]

love your videos. don't let the woke TV cancel you

[@Markvanleerdam]

4:57 thats basically it. Its easy to accuse everyone of being toxic when you are toxic yourself. There should be some action towards such targeted attacks

[@me67galaxylife]

Grummz speaking the truth about most people…

[@lachazaroony]

I pray that any who were/have been attacked by these idiots sue TF out of them. We need to send a clear message that filing false claims and attacking someone without cause is illegal and should be punished with extreme prejudice.

[@cubancarp3019]

Don’t watch G+G, Nerdrotic, or Ryan Kinel, but if pro corporate “we removed the dislike button and angered all users to protect the feelings of corporations” KZbin said these videos aren’t serious and hateful, then they’re a nothing burger. People are screaming leave the billion dollar corporation and rich celebrities alone!!!!

[@synkraut9633]

Well post production you guys must have been the only ones who made money with the acolyte- and you earned it! I personally have never been quite so entertained by a series without even watching it. It was even funnier than most series I did watch

[@AidanKane2]

SPACE ICE!!!

[@cynthiajohnson9412]

You guys are free speech advocates, well done gentlemen! You aren't just pushing the theory of freedom of thought and expression, you're walking the walk. I'm so proud to support you all. Keep telling it like it is, you're doing the Lord's work. This is exactly what the Constitution of the U.S. is all about. You don't have to agree with an opinion to defend someone's right to dissent. Like it or lump it, as they used to say. Or as my mother used to uncompassionately say, 'go cry in your room, no one wants to hear it.' I'll put my modern spin on it, 'go cry in your rooms, you sniffling little Star Wars exploiters (commandeering something for you own purposes and self-gratification is called being a user), no one wants to hear it.'

[@gsigs]

Space Ice has nothing to say because he knows no one dares go after him and his mullet. And Rob.

[@nolan6137]

Great to see Grummz as part of the crew. People forcing the Narrative have been trying to take silence him for years.

[@scary_scat3924]

Imagine how they are going to react if they lose the election

[@filmrerun1973]

At this point I’m almost positive that more Star Wars fans watch you and theory and this type of content more than the actual shows and movies now.

[@periodicpete]

Really like these highlights But it would be nice if you could link the original podcast in the description. Anyone know which one this was from?

[@paulcarmi8130]

It hasn't been uploaded yet😂😂 haven't you figured out the upload schedule by now? Drinker always uploads the clips before the full stream is released! Come on bruh!edited for emoji cause this one made me giggle something FIERCE

[@paulcarmi8130]

This is from ep 110, you're so slow 😂😂😂😂

[@periodicpete]

@@paulcarmi8130 oh, I'm sorry. I'm supposed to telepathically know the upload schedule for a KZbinr who I don't follow very often? My mistake. I'll try to develop my 5th dimensional minds eye to better know that in the future. Thanks, dickhead, for answering a simple question completely normally and like a civil human being.

[@periodicpete]

​@@paulcarmi8130oh, I'm sorry. I'm supposed to telepathically know the upload schedule for a KZbinr who I don't follow very often? My mistake. I'll try to develop my 5th dimensional minds eye to better know that in the future. Thanks, dickhead, for answering a simple question completely normally and like a civil human being.

[@periodicpete]

@@paulcarmi8130 oh, I'm sorry. I'm supposed to telepathically know the upload schedule for a KZbinr who I don't follow very often? My mistake. I'll try to develop my 5th dimensional minds eye to better know that in the future. Thank you for answering a simple question completely normally and like a civil human being, and not at all like a complete prick.

[@hope-cat4894]

They don't want anyone talking about it because if enough bigwigs catch wind of what's going on, they might want to change gears and that will lead to all of these people losing their access to all this money and prestige they've been given. We all know the budgets aren't going to the writing or costumes. They don't want their money-laundering to get a spotlight on it.