Critiquing Rex Viper | Red Cow Arcade Clip

‪@DancingwithGhosts‬ is known for his critiques of Rex Viper, which we discuss here.
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[@theMadness36]

I duck walked as fast as i could to get here for this video!

[@Mike-ks6qu]

Hahahhaa same. 😂😂😂

[@DancingwithGhosts]

🤣

[@gibdo7995]

🤣

[@kickpuncher870]

The "bear on a unicycle" line when referring to Justin made me crack lol. 🤣🤣🤣

[@anthonyhuwe6495]

Not only did James have Kyle Justin but also the musical genius Bootsy.. and managed to start a band with these guys instead...

[@BSzili]

I just listened to Tornado Rex again after a long time, what a banger.

[@AlgaeEater09]

Ya it seems like everyone James gets involved with as a business partner.. they end up hating him.

[@chadhartsees]

OH MY GOD you're right. If he wanted to do a band all this time... he.... literally had a band from the start.

[@starner00]

I didn't know Bootsy did music. I loved that dude.

[@DrMurdercock]

he did the musaic you hear in Board James and in other places @@starner00

[@morganmedrano920]

Kyle Justin also covered Double Vision be Foreigner. It was good, and he knew what his singing range is. I also recommend "Where did their hair go" from the Ikkari Warriors episode.

[@mr.awesome6011]

Oh God I almost threw up a lung laughing so hard at that song on my first listen. I miss Kyle.

[@JosephBlack]

I still go back to Double Vision only for Kyle. He built some of the sets too. It always bothered me that they kept the version of the theme song for so long because Kyle sings pitchy. And he definitely got better in the newer songs. Instead we got all the covers 🤷🏽‍♂️ poor Kyle

[@Kuro-Mori]

Well said Frankie. A lot of people see their favorite KZbinrs as their friends. I think that feeling comes through strongly in content like what's in Junts cart. Just friends on an impromptu spree, joking and laughing together. What could be better?

[@tetsuoakira8294]

That's how I feel. Well, I'm not insane so I don't actually think they're my friends, but in a different place at a different time...I definitely would have become friends with them.

[@metfan999]

I was truly sad when Total Biscuit died. Like losing a friend

[@RedCowArcade]

Very tragic.

[@immortaluglyfish2724]

Ahhh, been waiting for this. "Oblivious overconfidence" is a good way to describe what James does. 8:45 "Hey, uh, yeaaaah" LMAO

[@Felix.Dragon.]

That's a good term. Also, Frankie does the cadence and speech/word choices so well. It makes me smile every time.

[@symorebutts2137]

5:40 "timing" 😲 it's a sign!

[@Gooseman9836]

The addition of DancingwithGhosts has really added an extra layer to these talks. Good call all round ✌️

[@k-ondoomer]

Kyle Justin had a really nice voice on that double vision cover he did for an avgn episode. I genuinely enjoyed his voice on that track

[@Jayce_Alexander]

I think it's awesome you've started going to church, Frankie. I converted to Eastern Orthodox Christianity in 2019 in the middle of a grueling battle with cancer, after many years of discernment. It was my second rodeo (with cancer that is), and the spiritual guidance of my church and our priest has been invaluable during my illness and the process of finding my place in the world again with these new limitations that the long term effects of the cancer and the treatments have placed upon me. My church has been a real blessing. I hope your church is a great spiritual home to you and your family. Great video, love the collaboration with DancingwithGhosts!

[@RedCowArcade]

Wow, so good. How are you holding up now?

[@ryanbenson4610]

I think this video brings up one of the reasons Junt has such an appeal. He is so sincere. His enthusiasm and knowledge for church fairs and box macs is really something. It reminds me of early James or even modern James when he talks about movies he likes.

[@Djentlemanthall]

I love this crossover. If this could be more permanent thing where Dancing is with Redcow, I’m on board 100%!

[@agentallstar7]

I hate the word cringe but Rex Viper is the definition of that over used word

[@onkkell]

Mike's dong is the real shadow member of Cinemassacre

[@ThePapranazi]

On the note about JonTron: I honestly find it amazing to compare even his old material to the Screenwave Bames eea, because if you look in the credits of a lot of his stuff, you'll see he isn't the only writer! He's said before that he'd sometimes sit and watch something with a friend, and be bouncing jokes off of each other.. Instead of Kieran sitting alone, writing jokes for James by himself That's why James collaborating with other writers wasn't a bad idea, he just consostently made bad decisions to employ anyone from Screenwave to do it

[@BSzili]

Yeah, that's how the old Nerd episodes were made with Mike. People don't realize how much of a collaborative effort AVGN was from the getgo, with James and Mike bouncing ideas off each other, writing different parts of the script, etc.

[@JohnSmith-yd5wq]

Oh yes JonTron who basically killed his career after admitting he's a racist.

[@ThePapranazi]

@@JohnSmith-yd5wq I'm on your side in believing he's racist. I disagree with his views (and don't watch him because of it, but that's my choice) but his career definitely isn't dead

[@JohnSmith-yd5wq]

@@ThePapranazi fair enough.

[@IgorsDen]

His career seems to break all rules; he's had several notable controversies, he has an erratic schedule, his content has changed focus from games into something a lot more vaguely defined (infomercials?), but every time he uploads he gets millions of views very quickly. I don't really get it.

[@MrIamestranged]

You guys need to do more shows together....great combination

[@thomashyle1689]

lot of people give mike credit, but he was the whole reason why screenwave took over cinemassacre along with Bootsy getting screwed over, over petty online drama. He may have made the channel entertaining, but was also the source of the downfall of it.

[@Specter227]

Yup, Rex Viper, they are still around mhm... I won't mock James for the idea of starting a band, even though "a video game-themed band covering the best retro game tunes" seems rather overplayed. Going outside your comfort zone is a good thing. What makes the Rex Viper saga so funny to me is that they (or most likely James himself) approached it like a teenager who dreams big and gives up on the first roadblock. I feel like with some actual TIME and effort into it he could have a decent side gig going (if only for the novelty of having a band created by the Nerd himself), but why bother. I think that generally describes James's recent output well: "I have some ideas, but why bother trying".

[@glassbob9871]

Totally agree; to me its also the contrast to James's low effort on his other project (or in this case the only project which is AVGN) that makes Rex Viper egregious in comparison.

[@natwolf687]

You guys talk a lot of sh*t for people, that far as I know, haven't done sh*t. Also, Rex Viper is damn near the worst thing I've ever heard.

[@GoodTalkHQ]

yes! keep DwG as a guest segment going forward when you guys can, love the collabs!

[@Sly88Frye]

I remember when I first saw a Rex viper video when it first came out, I simply asked where is Kyle Justin? I just didn't understand why he would start a band and not include him. I've heard that Kyle Justin is doing an entirely different kind of career now but I mean come on. He didn't just make the AVGN theme but he also did some other songs throughout various videos of the AVGN episodes. Double vision and his hilarious parody of the Addams family intro. Among others. His Christmas song of AVGN

[@ProgSnob14]

Something about having Red in your KZbin name guarantees quality. Red Letter Media Red Eye Reacts Red Cow

[@DancingwithGhosts]

Dancing with Red Ghosts

[@MrBump2]

Redpilled

[@Psycho-Ssnake]

Red light districts

[@fzxfzxfzx]

Red Disembowelment and Unfound Body

[@zerofide]

i get hyped for red cow cinnemassacre/rex viper content

[@Chaingun]

30+ dad here, and part of the truth program

[@4STPearson]

Ironically, James probably thinks that being in a band takes less time than "making" youtube videos.

[@redacted2275]

His idea of having a band takes less time, yes. It's quite offensive for people who actually have a band. It's like the Frank Grimes episode on The Simpsons and James is Homer.

[@mrdozey7361]

The Documentary "The Bill Murray Stories" seemed like a sad attempt to meet Bill Murray. Spoiler : the director doesn't meet Bill Murray

[@joshtoten]

Pauly Shore was literally the first name that popped into my head. I got a sponsored post from him on Facebook and he's apparently trying to get his fans to join his internet band. Wonder if it'll be as much of a disaster as Rex Viper?

[@EnjoySackLunch]

Did you know Pauly shore lives next to Nic Cage

[@TheRealPapaChico]

That's a good point about bootsy. I've seen him live in Philly a bunch of times and he is actually a talented musician.

[@GTV-Japan]

10,000 hours equals 5 years if you treat that time like a 40-hour a week job. It’s funny when you tell this to college kids because it means that after 4 years, they’re still not road ready! 😅

[@FrightfullyForgotten]

I really like the conversation about making fun of things that you care about. We take the piss out of our favorite movies all the time, doesn't mean we don't love em. Just means you have a sense of humor, and like something you know is slightly or even highly flawed.

[@elimgarak4667]

EJ said something that rang really true, then Frankie went right along with it. To combine into what I enjoyed the most about Cinemassacre. I felt like they were genuine and sincere dudes, who were hanging out with this lonely dude(me) over a computer screen. That's exactly what I used to love about Cinemassacre.

[@EnjoySackLunch]

Bummer you can’t hang out with Enabran Tain any longer.

[@elimgarak4667]

@@EnjoySackLunch How right you are there, friend. LMAO

[@Blowncapacitor84]

Hello, I'm here to fill out an application to be a Red Cow slob. I will work for cheeseburgers and basketball shorts. Just please let me be in your band!

[@rhysm.5915]

Yeah, they're not Rush, but the band is such a weird thing to get so hung up on.

[@Blowncapacitor84]

I'm glad you guys brought up Mike and Bootsy. Honestly, I miss James and Mike mondays. I definitely think that Mike made the show but the first thing that stuck out to me with Rex Viper was what Josh said about the mix. It was an absolute brick wall! Even being an amateur with audio it struck a wrong chord with me, but not a good one. (pun intended)

[@kimkimpa5150]

Singer needs to drop down at least five semitones. You can hear it especially on the first "concert" that he's got nodules on his vocal cords. That stuff ain't going away any time soon, especially not if he maxes out his voice like this all the time. He's gonna destroy them vocal cords permanently if he's not careful.

[@DancingwithGhosts]

yep.. my singer has nodules currently and is taken pro-active measures to minimize them and conserve her voice whenever possible/warming up when appropriate.

[@RedCowArcade]

I really like her voice Josh, sounds unique.

[@DancingwithGhosts]

@@RedCowArcade whaaattt.. you actually proceeded to listen to muh band? damn now i really do have to watch your movies! (jk i planned to anyway)

[@kimkimpa5150]

Hey, get a room you two, I don't want this comment thread to get parasociaI.

[@emobassist]

Loving the Dancing with Ghosts collab hope you guys keep doing this been a fan for a while of both. James can do Nerd dad while still being in character and just complain about how everything sucks compared to 15 years ago i mean i think that would work better than trying to appeal to all the old fans

[@synthetics_music]

This video rises up to the challenge of the Gameboy

[@DancingwithGhosts]

oh god noooooooo the flashbacks

[@LiveForFuntasy]

16:00 That's true about JonTron, even way back in his earlier days. He was at a convention years ago and showed a preview of an upcoming video, but that video ended up never releasing.

[@Charlescy5]

This crossover was better than the jetsons meet the flinstones

[@chrislevack405]

Rex Viper had never practiced in-person before that first show. They had maybe an hour or two together before taking the stage.

[@edgemeisteryellow9470]

Just in time for 5:40! Big EJ fan BTW!!

[@BPMusic06]

For some reason I love that video of Rex Viper playing live. It gives me the same nostalgia as watching videos of my old middle school garage rock band play 😂

[@kenhammscousin4716]

That is why it is so pathetic. They aren't middle schoolers.

[@rayon3793]

Are there any plans to interview Cooper Folly?

[@RedCowEntertainment]

Bring him to our table, and I shall interview him.

[@KonEl-BlackZero]

I don't know if counts as celebrity, but if you make a video about Tommy Tallarico, he will watch it and probably knock at your door asking for a chance to talk with you in camera.

[@DancingwithGhosts]

honestly before the whole Amico debacle, i loved his work on the Earthworm Jim games. Some of the most memorable music outside of the Megaman X series on SNES if you ask me.. but his hubris got in the way somewhere along the way.

[@teen_laqueefa]

James is Lumberg from Office Space

[@Felix.Dragon.]

That's such a good comparison. I can't unsee it now.

[@muttley3050]

Mhm...yeeeeeeeaay

[@thousandyeargems4360]

The backlash for your first rex viper video, dancingwithghosts, really showed me how some cinemassacre fans refused to accept any criticism. Some of the comments I remember reading were so livid just because you honestly reviewed something from their favourite KZbinr, and didn't like it.

[@DancingwithGhosts]

yeah a lot of their fans are very protective of James and refuse to be intellectually honest with themselves when having a debate.

[@PhoenixSplash]

I'm not a fan of musicians telling other musicians to put their instruments down because they aren't "good enough". Which is what he did in that first video.

[@thousandyeargems4360]

@@PhoenixSplash I been trying to tell Greta Van fleet to put the instruments down for awhile, but they won't listen :(

[@PhoenixSplash]

@@thousandyeargems4360 then maybe you should hone your own craft instead of wasting your time telling others to stop.

[@DancingwithGhosts]

@@PhoenixSplash honestly if some dumb youtuber like myself telling someone to put down their instrument triggers you, you're gonna have a hard time in the real world.

[@ndep93]

I want Justy to sing Snake Eater solo. Big Ryan fan btw.

[@stinghouseproductions8502]

Great episode. Glad to see this collab.

[@teen_laqueefa]

I'm just popping popcorn and drinking the tea

[@BSzili]

Josh meshes really well with the Red Cow crew, he feels more like an irregular host rather than a guest on the podcast.

[@DocOmaley98]

Who is the Jason guy they mention in the beginning? I’d love to watch his video

[@Imsanthisismychannnelhi]

Kyle Justin personal music is actually pretty good. Holy Ghost is my favorite song, it's here on youtube.

[@Computernet-xz8fu]

I’ve been watching these vids for a week now including the 6 hours one made by that Dylan guy… I’m pretty deep into the drama now and I have to say even though it’s always the same 3 jokes being used over and over, Time, Muh kids, X of the asshole variety, ect it’s never not funny. I’m caught off guard every single time

[@tommyjones1357]

Love you guys on a Saturday morning.

[@beefmaster7]

Having watched most of your videos on the topic, I consider you guys my close friends now.

[@cardenasr.2898]

C'mom guys why are you criticizing Rex Viper, can't you see James is having a lot of fun? That's what's important, it's not like they're profiting from their fans with low effort content. Do you want him to suffer?

[@DancingwithGhosts]

take a wild guess

[@Mephianse81]

Sometimes I think people go to church just cause they want a sense of community

[@VetriVade]

6:28 based and god pilled

[@Evil_Befall]

You want rex viper to suffer ?

[@Mark_David_Chapman]

9:42 Tell those people giving you the "fat shaming" argument that Justin made fun of Totalbiscuit for dying of cancer. He's fine with ad hominem attacks.

[@davidlewis5312]

oh... he was one of those...

[@ProgSnob14]

James should just do sincere videos on anything. It'd sell better than anything he's done the last 6 years or more.

[@floorboardvoodoo]

More of these colabs peoples. Good content 👌

[@teen_laqueefa]

Making fun of something you love is half my relationship

[@Vaniity_Velvet]

9:36 🎶 _Fat Guy in a Little Coat... Fat Guy in a Little Coooaaatt_ 🎶

[@cableroyson9992]

Well this is the one I’ve been waiting fir

[@yonkolevelzoro7104]

Yes!

[@Lenny_Sinpablo]

love ya red cow.

[@diobrando8890]

Tell gollum to find his ring lol

[@costasspartan1894]

I just checked out rex viper on KZbin, its worse than used Toilet Paper.

[@2prize]

8:54 Omg i'm officially part of the Bimmymassacre lore 🙏

[@WillRoan]

“Unfortunately I have to redo all the drop ceiling, yeah”

[@gareth19771]

James stupid fucking stomp gets me every time

[@struttux5156]

Do the duck

[@FearMonarch]

Man i feel like i would either despise or mildly enjoy guesties band, but man does his entire demeanor feel like such a mood

[@negativearms]

Kyle Justin is a good musician, he wrote a really catchy song with just a few power chords and a great vocal melody. Technical ability over creativity is boring imo. There's no time to do a 5:40 long solo.

[@showerfreak]

You guys are all better together

[@xmaverickhunterkx]

Dumb question but where the F are the full podcasts?

[@RedCowArcade]

We put up the full podcasts on the Patreon for $2 a month, if you want to support us that way. Otherwise you can just get the clips here.

[@Vajrubaj]

I feking love these Talks every part its a gift. Thx you very much my beloved daddy slobs, 5:40 ey hhh nah i am just feking with you ...ou and i need more ...more . Peace

[@original_Imori]

Was the berenstain bears AVGN a screanwave production? I think that is one of the best ones he's done.

[@teen_laqueefa]

Tommy Tallarico will DEFINITELY see a video about him, create burner accounts and spam you.....worse than me lol

[@TheBigJBag]

I thought you guys were Venom Heads, but I GUESS NAWT! Come feel the bite of Rex Viper with the rest of us and enter the snake pit! Hiss! Hiss!

[@primemover80]

4:21 I don’t know, it could be argued he did a shit ton of work to get the audience in the first place.

[@tysonq7131]

Good to see the Angry Video Game Nerd Nerds hanging out

[@GSpareBurner]

8:46 LMFAO Hey Uh Yeahhhhh…

[@Coffee-Stain-Music]

If I didn't know the true spirit of metal was dead and gone before, I knew it was the moment I saw skinny 41 year old balding James Rolfe on stage throwing up the double metal horns to a crowd of fat super geeks wearing a sleeveless animal print shirt and a beat up old hat.

[@morganmedrano920]

The end of Gen X and the Start of Gen Y paved the roads that make the internet. We were the pioneers... why is it so surprising that we are a large part of the internet. Were just better informed so we know what is good information and bad information. We were the generation that said, you can't trust everything you see/read/hear online, and the only ones that apparently still do.we are on KZbin and So part of some sites like Reddit, but we came from the Myspacian Era, we had to know html, just to use our most basic social media platform.

[@InsaneCopePosse]

Gen xers are wannabe boomers

[@kenhammscousin4716]

Dis gon b gud 🪑🧏🏿‍♂️

[@TheUballe]

I, too, watch all this shit... and it's God damn delicious. What can I say? It appeals to me, because I'm an asshole.

[@bw4827]

Oops you did it again! 😂

[@DoobieDoctor5000]

Oh shit it's Dances With Ghosts.

[@MustardTigerFan42]

God I’m 34 and never felt like someone would think I’m a dad

[@DeanH92]

18:45 Billy Mitchell

[@reinforcedpenisstem]

Think of the fuel costs you'd save without Justin in your band tour

[@DancingwithGhosts]

lmfffaaooo jesus christ

[@DarkseidJoshua]

That's very insightful what Frankie said about people seeing their favourite KZbinrs as kinda like their best friends. I'm a big fan of Doug Walker (Nostalgia Critic), and obviously I don't think he's my friend or anything I'm not fucking delusional. The reason I like his content and watch his Nostalgia Critic episodes every week is because I can identify with him so much. He reviews movies I like with a sarcastic humour that is simular to my own. His opinions are also very similar to my own regarding movies. I guess in a weird way when people subscribe to a particular channel they aren't just looking for some form of entertainment but a "friend" who shares their interests and has similar opinions. I think back to a time before KZbin and the popularisation of the Internet and the invention of streaming services like Netflix or Disney+. People were obsessed with particular TV shows like Soap Opera's or cartoons to the point where if they missed an episode of their favourite show they wouldn't shut up about it for days on end. Now that we have KZbin and streaming services content creators and online personalities are the new modern day soap Opera's.

[@zachary_attackery]

6:28 based

[@redbacon6555]

Ayy big Frankie 🎉

[@JB_Royal_Ambassador]

It is one thing to ammass a following doing a one man show where quality really doesnt matter as long as you care about the person and the content. Music is different because it has to be good or it is a novelty in my opinion. I dont think James cared much about being good or high quality which worked for him on youtube. It was good when he cared but became a novelty when it ran its course. The music seems like a novelty from the get go.

[@Laverty318]

Kinda the cutest collab ever tbh

[@BigRed0059]

This is truth

[@TommyWashow]

i nominate josh for permanent third mic

[@filthism1659]

I stoped watching every new episode when they came out after mike left it just wasn't the same and my favorite was James and Mike Monday's

[@anthonyrowland9072]

like, i said in the other video. they have a decent pop punk singer trying to hit 80s rock notes and it's not working.