Crossmaglen - Irish Republican Heartland

[@CiaranMcAlinden-r2i]

Paddy Short a real gentleman of the licened trade. He was a great character always enjoyed calling in to his bar every week.

[@rbarnett3200]

I'm not gonna get into the history too much because it's pretty complicated. Ulster was a plantation (that was the original word for it) in the sense that the British government (usually called England) 'planted' people from Scotland and England in Northern Ireland in what we'd understand now (and probably then) as colonialism with the interests of eliminating the Irish (natives) to make the land profitable for Britain (England). This happened in Scotland, Wales, North America, India, New Zealand, Australia, Africa, etc. It's a form of limited genocide. So yes, as an Englishman, I can see why all these people were fucked off to say the least. We need to have a true history of british imperialism that is taught so that people realise my nation weren't benign bringers of law and civility to 'savages', they were invaders who tried to systematically eradicate the peoples and countries of whom they invaded.

[@fanore8109]

At last the truth ☑☑

[@killercd7682]

If you wanted to have a discussion, you'd have to have a fair discussion. This isn't a fair discussion it's completely one sided. For example. this conversation is only possible because the British invented the internet. And the computer. You'd have to acknowledge the many benefits Britain brought the world while also discussing the trouble that Britain caused. But I doubt very much you'd be capable of such an impartial analysis, because you've written here they "tried to systematically eradicate" peoples. Britain never tried to do that. They governed India with about 1000 civil servants, as if they were trying to eradicate the entire population! You would do well to read Nigel Biggar for a fairer accounting of the Empire.

[@fanore8109]

@@killercd7682 Tell your narrative to the 1 million Irish citizens that died from starvation while the " benevolent " English occupiers exported tons of food and crops back to England..not a kind landlord one would think 😐

[@mpwheatley]

Funny, I thought they were mainly Scots doing the planting at the behest of a Scottish King. But you carry on with your anti-English thing.

[@fanore8109]

@@mpwheatley Mary the 1st of " England " started the 1st plantation of Ireland.. Ironically A Catholic Queen of England..

[@gezley100]

I went to Crossmaglen in 1986 to visit a college friend and his family. I was only 19, and didn't understand the conflict as well as I do now, even though I live only 25 miles south of the border. But I couldn't get over a British soldier pointing his gun at me. I still find that experience unsettling, even today. I was just a college boy, not there to cause any trouble.

[@slartybobfoster2273]

We're all the same to a British soldier.

[@jackietreehorn5561]

Any wonder so many young men got involved with that hearty welcome

[@gezley100]

@@JupiterThunder well by that logic a soldier could go up to any person in England and point a gun in their face for the same reason.

[@fieldagentryan]

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[@herbie70philip]

Dry you eyes

[@Highland_Moo]

I’m from the Scottish highlands and for what it’s worth, I’m Protestant. It’s not an issue where I live and I don’t have any issue with folk of different religions. I’d be royally pissed-off if an occupying army set up in my wee village.

[@robsmithadventures1537]

I'd have no problems with Protestants, I just don't like the Orange Order type supremacist ones.

[@jackietreehorn5561]

@@robsmithadventures1537 same

[@MrResearcher122]

Are you a gael who speaks Gaelic?

[@dvrn86]

If you're a Gael then you are a brother.

[@winnieobrien9036]

FREE OUR GREAT COUNTRY MAKE IRELAND 🇮🇪 GREAT AGAIN

[@peterstubbs5934]

LOL Since WHEN has Ireland been great?

[@alanmurray5963]

It will always be greater than britain. Ireland 🇮🇪 loved throughout the world. 32 ☘️

[@jacquiewalton1996]

@@peterstubbs5934 Are you the same 'peter stubbs' who claimed he was a "survivor of Warrenpoint" ? PPSM

[@cycleSCUBA]

And go against the will of the majority of people in Northern Ireland that want to remain British? How's that fair? 🇬🇧

[@kevinadamson5768]

Did a tour in South Armagh in 86 and I can tell you they are a Hardy breed around these parts, hated the soldiers and police with a passion, even the dogs didn't like you. You can understand now why they felt so bad about us but as a young soldier on his first tour it was a character building experience shall we say. I've heard they have pulled the checkpoints and watch towers down now so I hope the locals have a more peaceful life now.

[@henrypierce8900]

Thanks kevin, nice to hear from a combatant with an understanding of his adversaries.

[@DublinDan]

always interesting to hear the other sides point of view. I'm sure you can understand the anger as Ireland was carved up and partitioned. It caused more war on the island of Ireland 🇮🇪

[@jackietreehorn5561]

In xmg

[@kevinadamson5768]

@@jackietreehorn5561 yes that was our area but specifically the watch towers, did patrol through one day though. I was surveillance company we did all that area to Crosslieve mountain.

[@kevinadamson5768]

@@DublinDan I wasn't bothered either way I was just doing a job under difficult circumstances.

[@f.b508]

The famous fighting men from crossmaglen💚🤍🧡🇮🇪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿✊✊✊

[@gazzanorth4373]

Crossmaglen still in British UK 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 So much for fighting men🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@barrymcguire5048]

@@gazzanorth4373 so much for fighting men just look at the body count of British soldiers compared to volunteers 3:1 for every volunteer lost three of your soldiers paid the price the statistics speak for them selves. Sleep well brave volunteers🇮🇪🙏🇮🇪

[@f.b508]

@@gazzanorth4373 it’s not in Britain it’s in the UK jurisdiction

[@paulduffy4585]

@@f.b508 for now

[@jackietreehorn5561]

@@f.b508 law doesn't apply there

[@jericho9653]

Travelled up there from limerick for a session last Yr for the craic. Great people, I thought it would be alot bigger. Hard to believe the british army had such trouble in a small village

[@TheNinyo77]

​@@jackietreehorn5561 ever been up the falls road 😂 ,they really don't like them there either lol.

[@jackietreehorn5561]

@@TheNinyo77 been to rebel Sunday in the rock bar many times lol bik and the boys

[@TheNinyo77]

I met him twice as a young boy with my Da when we delivered some building materials in that area !!! Came away with a lot of new understanding after listening to him and my Da talk over a few pints. A fountain of knowledge he was ,lovely mild tempered inoffensive man !!! Who spoke only the truth.

[@sacundim]

I've been watching old news reports about the Troubles for a couple of days now, including one in here on KZbin from 1976 called "South Armagh - 'Bandit Country'", and none of them bother to ask anybody actually from this town of Crossmaglen what they thought. Glad to see different in this video for a change.

[@donaldkrump7564]

My granny Rooney came from there. Went to see where she was born. Was made welcome. Very nice people.Ireland for the Irish. And I was born in England but very very proud of my Irish roots.

[@formzino]

@Anglus Patria where do you trace your ancestry to? The pond?

[@danbreen6946]

@Anglus Patria You fuckin halfwit big man behind your keyboard

[@danbreen6946]

@@BreakerBreakerYeo Go back to school you illiterate scumbag

[@posniknelb6114]

Im a former british soldier,i served in south armagh(stunningly beautiful place by the way)but i agree with these gentleman,the catholics/nationalists have had the real shitty end of the stick.

[@f.b508]

Yep u guys helped in doing the British governments nasty work. Against the Irish ppl and the island of Ireland

[@jackietreehorn5561]

@@f.b508 I can appreciate his honesty....at least admits in the wrong

[@Dheuedbv]

“Served” You can serve murder and destruction on a plate?

[@cycleSCUBA]

I'm a UK Forces Veteran too, and you're a traitor.

[@gradeum]

I love how he says "so the people had to rebel " 32

[@gazzanorth4373]

The tramps can rebel all they want, Crossmaglen is still in the British UK🇬🇧 🤣🤣🤣

[@scottmccaul3561]

@@gazzanorth4373 British uk or Britain,UK

[@scottmccaul3561]

It’s like a classic opening quote to a film

[@barrymcguire5048]

@@gazzanorth4373 who are you calling tramps honest men with an honest opinion

[@gazzanorth4373]

@@barrymcguire5048 Sorry I meant sewer rats.

[@garymcnally9989]

If the Irish people want this country back it will only happen untill every single last one of us come together and make it happen tiocfaidh ar la 🇮🇪

[@royalhilltararanger3947]

Lmao why would be Republic of Ireland want the north lmao away u go 🤣🤭🇮🇪🐇

[@theoneandonly1355]

@@royalhilltararanger3947 fool

[@royalhilltararanger3947]

@@theoneandonly1355 Ur the fool 🤣 🤧 🌧️

[@littlebrayutd]

@@royalhilltararanger3947 your the fucking fool,, same old shit why would we want it back anyway??!! When partition happened Irish people woke up in a another country overnight, they had no say,, realty is over 6o percent of Irish parliament said they were for utd Ireland,,, Change your name for you to have the name were the high Kings of Ireland ruled from, ulster connacht lenister, munster, U sould be ashamed of yourself

[@littlebrayutd]

@@royalhilltararanger3947 why don't u go dowsing ya fucking fool,

[@michaelbaylon4653]

In crossmaglen the fire burns through that patriotic flame will never die up the ra🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@jackmcmaster2436]

The ra... scum of the earth! 🇬🇧💪

[@elflakeador09]

I've always had huge respect for the people of Crossmaglen, true heroes. 😎👍☘

[@cliddily]

Hero country, not bandit country.

[@joeandjoe2]

And you are ?

[@ptp2965]

Any body that fights for their freedom and that of their families have my respect. Bit ironic me being ex British army but I have nothing against the Irish it’s your land and we shouldn’t be there. If I was Irish I’d be in shorts bar too 🍺🍺

[@rassawhelan6045]

Rip Paddy Short

[@volcorkbrigade]

Huge respect to the Crossmaglen boys from cork TAL 🇮🇪🇵🇸

[@volcorkbrigade]

@Anglus Patria 🖕

[@josefgretsky7355]

@Anglus Patria Inglese is all weakass dumbass...Irish Freedom Fighters of Crossmaglen greetings from Polska!

[@THEGIZS]

What a true irish patriot paddy short was or country would be in a better place if their was more people like him r.i.p Patrick you're legend will never die erin go bragh 🇮🇪💪❤️

[@TinaVaughn007]

The daring men from Crossmaglen ☘️🇮🇪

[@tommykavanagh1189]

God bless the people of Crossmaglen ❤️🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@bigboaby555]

big respect to Crossmaglen fae the real Scots boys

[@bigboaby555]

@half a rasher raytown ​are you going to pay their bills ? you don't need to concern yourself with whose wearing the uniform . tens of thousands of Irish fought in the British army during world war 2 against the Nazis. Are they traitors ?

[@bigboaby555]

@Brian P who do you think they are

[@bigboaby555]

@Brian P sorry I'm not following your absolute ramblings

[@PatTigue]

@@bigboaby555 yes in 1916 they didn't spare us get over yourself

[@bigboaby555]

@PatTigue most of us were over in Europe in 1916 mate , get over yourself

[@jackietreehorn5561]

Whenever I first meet someone from cross at work they never say where they from, they say from between newry and Dundalk! Sure the accent dead giveaway 😂

[@josefgretsky7355]

@Seamus Burke Aye the BIG SLAB AGREES🤣

[@josefgretsky7355]

@Seamus Burke Thought ah met big Tam once but ah cannae be sure...shit mesel anyway😂😂😂

[@artierace8664]

Hard to believe that this guy was Marty Short's uncle!

[@monilein1877]

Why? The family resemblance is very strong. He looks like a white-haired Martin Short.

[@raygreen5926]

It's beautiful countryside but I still see the ghost of Robert Nairac roaming around Crossmaglen. With the passage of time he wants to go home now

[@roscomeon3965]

Yes another vicious vindictive murder by the criminal gang called the PIRA. AN innocent man abducted tortured and murdered by these vile loathsome twisted corrupt perverted people.

[@paddyg4726]

Let him rot

[@roscomeon3965]

@@paddyg4726 you are a vile loathsome twisted perverted corrupt creature. Definitely wouldn't call you a human being.

[@paddyg4726]

@@roscomeon3965 at least I'm not a filthy orange pig

[@roscomeon3965]

@Paddy G you are worse. God help the Unionists having to live alongside someone of your sick 😫 mentality. I would prefer to live in the sewer.

[@celticwisdom.7430]

Crossmaglen has stood as a beacon for all the men and weomen of Ireland that standing together we are one.👍👍👍

[@brianlong8009]

Patriotic flame will never die TAL 🍀🍀

[@David-nm4yc]

This tiny little rural place terrified an Army which built an Empire all over the world.

[@Eire4irish]

@Seamus Burke they done more than you didnt they ya fucking asshole... they done more than most militaries were able around the world... but hey if someone came to your doorstep you would leave your family to die cause your a cowardly parasite... what man would want to be like you...

[@loulou7963]

That’s what totally fascinates me

[@chrisgardner1790]

Forkhill and crossmaglen such a tranquil place when nothing was happening,

[@johnregan6078]

The finest and the strongest! fair play and god bless you all 🇮🇪🙏🏼

[@killercd7682]

At the time of the Troubles, Unionists (Protestants) were a majority in Northern Ireland and they didn't want to leave the UK. So this guy Paddy Short in effect wanted to go against the majority there and compel them to reunite with Ireland against their wishes.

[@SL-nd6pz]

Unionists we're a minority in ireland 1920. Ni was made up entity gerrymandering, because the British did not respect irelands majority decision

[@Irishman0855]

Never beaten💚🇮🇪love from dublin

[@grahamwatts8836]

You all need to get on, past is the past, live in peace, I think the British troops need to de escalate, should have started moving out in 1972, lovely people beautiful country.

[@Kitiwake]

How can people "all get on" if they are in a stolen country?

[@Dheuedbv]

“Past is the past” Tell those mourning that

[@schmickaussie1038]

If Armagh votes in a referendum to join the Irish Republic then let them. All 6 counties should have a referendum about this. The ballots would beat the bullets any day. I hope that the Irish Republic leaves the EU also.

[@Kitiwake]

If we leave the EU too are we aligning ourselves with the brexit brits?

[@schmickaussie1038]

@@Kitiwake If Ireland stays in the EU you'll be swamped by immigrants and Ireland wont be the home of the Irish anymore. Look at London where the Poms are a minority in their own capital city. The Poms oppressed Ireland and the EU will do the same with their uncontrolled migration policies.

[@jackietreehorn5561]

@@schmickaussie1038 no problem with immigrants as long as they integrate.... wouldn't step out of line in some areas in Ireland tho....clicky and very tribal

[@marianlynch4829]

​@@jackietreehorn5561Intergrate?....not a chance if they're from the Religion of peace ..Ireland will be united some day but with what race?

[@jackietreehorn5561]

@@marianlynch4829 I was brainwashed by religion once upon a time and forced down my throat.....I'm a proud atheist now that's freed my mind......the migration crisis now is out of control for sure and ridiculous the way the government is getting on

[@melissa0386]

Yup the boys from old crossmeglen 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@petercunningham5640]

My mother was from Clonalig my grandfather was the grand post master of Crossmaglen i used to spend summer school holidays there i new the man from the pub 🇮🇪🇦🇺

[@raymondbest9046]

What happened to moley and to burns

[@chrisgardner1790]

I was there , I was 19……….. I had absolutely no understanding why I was there, I’m now 52, much wiser, I would of chose differently

[@jackietreehorn5561]

Lol that sums it up.....the British government just shoved a rifle into your hand and said go over to Ireland and most soldiers hadn't The foggiest of clues of the situation....most no different than young Irish lads with probably lots in common....the British government are cunts, upper class toffs making decisions and don't care as long as it's the working class tearing each other to pieces

[@trojanskinhead5318]

Tiocfaidh Ar La . Up the South Armagh brigade.

[@gazzanorth4373]

The IRA were nothing but a bunch of sectarian sewer rats. Away fuck yourself.

[@fciii4473]

​@@gazzanorth4373 Maybe, but they knew how to fight. A senior British Army officer characterized the IRA attack on 6 May 1994 near Cullyhana as "Another classic South Armagh rural contact: audacious, aggressive and accurate....They (the PIRA) picked out the COP (Scots Guards) team in the most exposed position. With hindsight, it was the one weak link in our operation and it says something for the IRA's tactical and field skills that they identified it before we did" (Harnden 395). Seems like the officer had some respect for the ol' sectarian sewer rats. Thoughts?

[@fciii4473]

@@James-nw1oj Agreed. He's an Brit who remained objective throughout the book. I learned about the fighting capacity of the IRA, and was disabused of some of my romantic notions about them as well. It doesn't change my stance, but it broadened my perspective.

[@monkeybone39]

@@gazzanorth4373 the Brits started it. You do know it started long b4 1968? 🤔

[@monkeybone39]

@@gazzanorth4373 lets go forward then. Border poll n get the fk out of Ireland 😘

[@vincentmcnabb939]

The real Asterix. 🇮🇪

[@Mftw767]

This man is right.

[@DirtySanchez943]

I wanna have a pint in this joint.

[@raleighburner1589]

Real men in south Armagh pure hard core made of real steel ..SOUTH ARMAGH. ..boom

[@bruetenn666]

Love crossmaglen

[@herbie70philip]

The British government offered south Armagh to the Republic of Ireland. And Charles haughey said he didn’t want it. It wasn’t worth the hassle

[@PMK1961]

Great video.

[@paulsaul7674]

must be hard to take when the same people you detested are now issuing your giro's lol

[@monkeybone39]

Girls? What age are u tool

[@M0380-n5t]

@@monkeybone39 he said giro as in the benefits u claim of the British government. What age are u not knowing that. Hope u enjoy living on the queens highway

[@monkeybone39]

@@M0380-n5t in don't claim benefits knobend and keyboard warrior

[@M0380-n5t]

@@monkeybone39 well hope u like spending money with the queens head on it haha. If u dont like it then fuck of out of Britain

[@M0380-n5t]

@@monkeybone39 U are under British rule u twat hahaha. We are governed by the United kingdom.

[@lmc7483]

The Patriotic flame will never die

[@charlesbukowski9836]

WILL NEVER DIE!

[@MacScouse]

I'm sure his nice Clair Short who was an MP for many years can explain it all to him or is it that he explained it all to Clair Short the answer!

[@ohno2112]

Before I leave this planet I'm going to go Crossmaglen ! And If the shits hit the fan again I will go over and join the lads no matter how old I am ! God Bless the people of crossmaglen !!

[@davejohn2964]

Those in the northern part voted to separated from Southern Ireland, so your wrong. You always have been free to cross the border, so your wrong. The troika where there because of the violence and killing you started, so your wrong.

[@johndevlin6775]

when did they vote ?

[@DPG214]

@@johndevlin6775 1922, the Anglo-Irish Treaty (it takes two to make a treaty) allowed the opt-out for the six counties. That was the deal. Michael Collins eventually gave his life in support of it.

[@aroo9967]

Poor Dave John, hasn't a clue.

[@jeffsmith2022]

you're...

[@dirtyleeds5748]

@@johndevlin6775 bullshit

[@FrLawRE]

The man in the beginning says that people in his part of the country owed their allegiance to Ireland all the time. And yet, he says that in English, language of the hated oppressor!

[@greybeardsharpsword4626]

And you would understand this video if it was only spoken in Gaelic......wanker!

[@FrLawRE]

@@greybeardsharpsword4626 Ní labhraím Gàidhlig mé féin ach d’úsáidfainn aistritheoir ar line

[@dacautos775]

The barrel of a gun speaks all languages

[@DannyCafferkey]

The language was forced upon them, the native tongue as here in Scotland was banned upon the punishment of death, just like our songs, Tartan and a multi tude of other laws designed to erode the Irish and Scottish cultures, laws enforced by a foreign imperial force, " England", maybe clue yourself up a bit there bud, I'm sure Mr Short would have been able to speak his native tongue!!

[@davetdowell]

He could do with reading a good history book. First of all Ireland was not a country, it was six kingdoms, who lived in conflict with each other. Then one of the kingdoms decided to attack England, raiding our coastal towns and slaughtering the entire populations of them. Eventually we invaded that Kingdom, and went on though it to take the rest. That's when Ireland became one country, when the English made it one country.

[@goodlivesmatter7238]

More People Like That We Need !!!

[@noelmackinjr.6489]

🇮🇪🇮🇩🇺🇲🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Good Speech !!!

[@johnmccabe8393]

Absolute legends

[@seanbrennan4356]

That’s also Martin short the Hollywood comedians uncle once removed or something. I forget the exact relation

[@liamshort]

Uncle.

[@Steve-z9n1g]

Your being invaded and they didn't even have to fire a shot!!!!!!

[@gazz_lad]

Soon be irlandistan

[@shanekinsella1606]

The man, the legend that is............❤☘⚘ Tiocfaidh ar La

[@darrenlowe3445]

✊🏼🇮🇪

[@jamesstewart3681]

Get a life

[@dhss333]

"Ireland, a land of all faiths and none" well said, Mary Lou .

[@jamesmccrudden4997]

Another one, “Sure, he’ll do anything for the faith - except practice it” Said of a drunk who never went to mass but who lit into some lots insulting a nun.

[@lingraham1916]

Who accepted the partition of Ireland and bowed to the British- simple answer Sinn Fein

[@henrypierce8900]

Yes exactly the partition of ulster was first recognised by arthur Griffiths when he signed the document to establish a border commission. By so doing he recognised a border. Griffiths was only the founding member if sinn féin!

[@wales123100]

Why did most of ireland vote for separation and then their army fight the ira

[@blueger5551]

Silly old man if it wasn't for the British army coming in the prods would have sent you South

That wouldn't have happened. The Protestants wouldn't have done that.

[@leeakers1370]

Is South Armagh dangerous for an English catholic to enter today?

[@Tomherbs]

Just Jacob rees mogg lol

[@leeakers1370]

Tomherbs looks like it has some of the most beautiful countryside and I’d like to go over, but just don’t know whether safe to do so.

[@Tomherbs]

Lee Akers don’t be daft, the MSM make out south Armagh as some kind of dangerous place. English people visit here all the time whether to visit family or just a holiday. A lot Americans have been coming here for decades, lately we have had a lot of German tourists. Visit the area for yourself and you will see how nice the people are.

[@leeakers1370]

Tomherbs I just didn’t know given the history that’s all. I absolutely love Ireland, went to Killarney in July and you’re right the Irish are good people.

[@Tomherbs]

Lee Akers fun fact, the old man in the pub is the uncle of Canadian actor Martin Short and Claire Short the former Labour minister

[@johnkennedy972]

Well said paddy

[@trirandon]

I done many tours of XMG, to be honest the IRA were a mixed bunch, some were in it to get Ireland as one, and some seemed to be in it for something other than that. Most of the attacks that were mounted to be fair were very well thought out a couple were very brave. Certainly all my fellow soldiers and I respected our advisories and I feel we were both sold out by our leaders.

[@tonydempsey355]

makes me proud to be Irish.

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

and when you hear the battle cry it will be the fighting men of crossmaglen

[@fascisminreview3732]

john laird beat me to it

[@petermimnagh9663]

john laird I

[@ogrebattle22763]

Amen...

[@jamesspain5601]

Eh what you on about

[@danbreen6946]

John Ruddy Amen Comrade 🇮🇪🍀☘

[@anitagoodsleep5330]

I read the book...bandit country...couldn’t put it down.the boys from cross didn’t fuck about

[@royalhilltararanger3947]

It's pity what happened to Paul Quinn

[@royalhilltararanger3947]

@Unknown Jewish Soul wasn't great Rebel army they murdered Paul Quinn he kick ass of well known IRA father son he was lured to a hay shed in county Monaghan Republic of Ireland and beaten to death with iron bars every one in crossmaglen know who done it

[@royalhilltararanger3947]

There is docoumtery with Paul Quinn mother and father and they tell about the state they left him in have a look at it Conor Murphy comments are disgrace he knows name lads who done it

[@royalhilltararanger3947]

@Unknown Jewish Soul shalom from royal County Meath 🇮🇪

[@royalhilltararanger3947]

@Unknown Jewish Soul because I do up royal hill Tara lol can't go metal detecting it's illegal what makes you think that there treasure up there ark of covenant lmao why call urself unknown Jewish soul 🕎

[@royalhilltararanger3947]

@Unknown Jewish Soul anything you find belongs to state as far as o know not sure about panning for gold u need to have s look at consuition of Ireland 🇮🇪 bunracht na eireann

[@Pdmc-vu5gj]

Had to partition it. No choice.

Partition didn't need to happen. Partition only happened as the Ulster Unionists threatened rebellion. The UK government supinely agreed to partition instead of standing up to the threat of rebellion from unionists.

[@Pdmc-vu5gj]

It had to happen. No way Catholic Ireland in the 1920s would have been able to govern a million Protestants. It would have been the troubles x 300 and would have destroyed the early Irish state. Which was unstable to begin with.

@@Pdmc-vu5gj I disagree. With imagination about governing structures in Ireland (e.g., strong local government, petitions of concern), as well as equality and secularisation laws, it would have been possible to have an Irish parliament for all of Ireland within the UK. That is how the Scottish Parliament is and there is no threat of partition of Scotland. The UK Tories played the Orange card to encourage rebellion in Ulster. That added petrol to a fire that could have been gently quenched. One needs to remember, that despite the differences between nationalists and unionists, there is actually more in common between as we all live in the same land. With time, shared interests and co-operation would have ensured that peace and progress would have happened. Look at Northern Ireland now, the imagination about governing structures (a joint first minister, power-sharing, petition of concern, etc.,), and equality laws make Northern Ireland more or less stable, despite not being reconciled. The reconciliation will happen little by little as the stability lasts. Partition was not a success. It entrenched divisions rather than diminished them.

[@Pdmc-vu5gj]

I would agree in modern times it may occur.... although the Irish healthcare system is a shambles and other practical issues....But not in the 1920s when Ireland was initially formed. The Catholic Church was too powerful (and provincial) in that era in terms of government influence..

@@Pdmc-vu5gj But if 30% of the population of Ireland was Protestant, it would have been difficult for the Catholic Church to be able to be so powerful. When partition happened, most of the Protestant population of Ireland was excluded from the 26 counties that became the Irish state. It made it much easier for the Catholic Church to influence the Irish government. Most of the concerns about home rule were really about economic matters rather than religious matters. North-east Ireland was the area that was most industrialised and Belfast was then the biggest city in Ireland. The Ulster Unionists didn't want to be cut off from their main market which was Britain. Nationalists wanted to have an Irish parliament which would impose customs and import tariffs on trade with Britain as a way to exercise control and to raise funds. It's likely that there would have been violence from some but with time, unionists would have had a determining role in an Irish parliament as they make up about 20% of the population of Ireland.

[@bagsogee]

I believe Paddy Short is a relation of Martin Short, the comedian.

[@dhss333]

How?

[@enternext2210]

Wise man !

[@maltesetony9030]

Excellent explanation.

[@clydecessna737]

If Ireland had not been partitioned then the total protestant community in Ireland would be approaching 20%. If they wanted to they would dominate the new country, many other countries are dominated thus. De Valera's dream of a poor country with total equality of peasants and poets would not have been.

[@niallcarr9253]

Telling it like it was

[@joehart7260]

Glory to you all praised and humble heroes who have willingly suffered for your unselfish and passionate love of Irish Freedom.

[@corsai7506]

Joe Hart NVA got my shout out

[@joehart7260]

@@corsai7506 Sorry, don't understand.

[@corsai7506]

Joe Hart pretty plain if you ask me

[@joehart7260]

@@corsai7506 I don't resent the veterans. They were under orders and just doing their job as soldiers. But at the end of the day it was a war.

[@corsai7506]

Joe Hart whose veterans?, what is your interest anyway

[@BARRzini89]

Its a little tactic that the English thought that they could mimic the Roman Empire. They used Religion against the Celtic people. Divide and Conquer. And thats how they beat us.

[@conahmorgan5235]

One shot paddy even the score let em hear bazookas roar armalites are heard across the land !!!

[@williamtraynor-kean7214]

An American journalist described XMG as being "as mean as cat shit" I think he was being too generous.

[@boho661]

crossmaglen is the best town in the world (im from there)

[@rock07879]

Declan Quinn tell that to paul quinn's family

[@MrCountryhead]

Declan Quinn quite

[@tomasfinnegan157]

@@rock07879 his family is from cullyhanna

[@josefgretsky7355]

I'm from Warskava and I agree mo chara...good luck to the bravest of the brave people of South Armagh!

[@jimhanratty9543]

My family is from Newry

[@bennyrico4205]

this man is so true,

[@amysands8925]

He forgets to say they had to pretect the borders because the ira were bringing bombs across to kill anyone including Catholic.

[@tomkearns7136]

The best of people in Cross. Fair play to you all and great resilience in the face of the foe. Never beaten.

[@gearldgallagher8999]

U6666696 8

[@samuelpepys2108]

They don't like each other never mind the British!

[@togmufc]

Please explain

[@johncarmichael8203]

Still no United Ireland, and never will be 🇬🇧

[@Irishman0855]

I wouldn’t bet on that now

[@BARRzini89]

I meant "beat us" as in divided us. Sorry, I should be more specific lol.

[@bennyrico4205]

I was in Crossmaglen lovely.Ireland should never have been partioned.

[@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist]

The country borders of Ireland are so arbitrary. Most of them didn't exist until the 16th century. Crossmaglen is in Armagh, but this is so clearly a Monaghan accent. Ireland, if it had to be paritioned, should not have been divided on the basis of arbitrary county lines. Crossmaglen, along with Fermanagh and South Tyrone, should never have been part of the northern Ireland state.

[@gazzanorth4373]

Well they are, so go dry your eyes.

[@redlongford]

@@gazzanorth4373 dry yer nappy son

[@charlesbukowski9836]

@@gazzanorth4373 What do you do when you see a Prod drowning? step on their head LOL

[@jackietreehorn5561]

Armagh was once the capital of Ireland

[@gerard1965able]

@@jackietreehorn5561 never new.

[@angloaust1575]

The border wasnt drawn Accurately crossmaglen should have been in eire!

[@Irishman0855]

There should be no border at all you mean

[@matinee310]

Any SAS recruit would tell you that the Fenians of crossmaglen did not fear death and had balls bigger than any bullock in the field! "In by air out by air" "In by air out by air" "In by air out by air" "In by air out by air" "In by air out by air" "In by air out by air" "In by air out by air" And just in case it was too dangerous with the fighting men of Crossmaglen "In by air out by air"!! That's "In by air out by air"!🚁💣⚖️🚫⚠️🇮🇪🚾🆘🚷

[@tomasfinnegan157]

Lol in by air yes there is no out at all

[@jonathanmcaleece9834]

Just a point ....a bullock is a castrated bull......sorry but its fact.

[@williamgoldsmith3796]

When has any Ulster unionist from the six north eastern counties of Ireland been part of a British government that has ever been able to make any big decisions about Britain and the British people? ANSWER...........................NEVER So are they British? If you cant be part of a British government why call yourself British?

[@josefgretsky7355]

God Bless Paddy Short and that FAMOUS FIGHTING UNIT FROM ARMAGH!

[@PeterCleland-dx5mn]

We will not forget you Jimmy sands.

[@GaraGambini]

“We aren’t going back into the history of it”. That’s because there never was a United Ireland ever 😂😂😂

[@Irishman0855]

The modern concept of country’s wasn’t a thing when yous brits starting pillaging Ireland and yous wouldn’t fuck off for centuries after so the idea that Ireland wasn’t a country is nonsense

[@corkboy4523]

There will be in the future though😉

[@GaraGambini]

@@corkboy4523 Just you keep telling yourself that Lmfao 😂

[@corkboy4523]

@@GaraGambini and you keep your head buried in the sand😁

[@GaraGambini]

@@corkboy4523 Bro, Sinn Fein ‘themselves’ keep putting the date back by decades every five years or so lol, you’ve been wishing for the last 800 years. What does that tell you? 😊

[@sasmcdade8685]

Legend..

[@ohno2112]

As long as five thousand british troops and MI5 & MI6 ARE STILL IN IRELAND THERE WILL NEVER BE REAL PEACE ! NO MATTER WHAT GERRY & MARTIN SAY !

[@martinkarole8495]

Gerry and Martin were and are the biggest touts paid by the Brits.. free helicopter to and from prison to meet there brit handlers. G&M sent the loughall volunteers to there graves. After lynagh put it up to the leadership. An oul tout MmcG and G got scared. The dogs on the streets know there touts. Sure look at the Italian tout now under protection of the british army.. SF is fulla🐀🐀🐀

[@corettaha7855]

The Irish ought to have helped the Sioux and Cherokee. It’s hard to sympathize when they let worse happen to their fellows so short a time ago.

[@johndevlin6775]

@Straight White British Protestant or the prods who went

[@aroo9967]

@Straight White British Protestant your name says it all, grow up ya ejit

[@jimgraham9042]

Free the people \o/