Crossrail vs Elizabeth Line Name Debate - EXPLAINED

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In this episode of city hacks London presenter Syrus Lowe conducts the great Crossrail vs Elizabeth Line Name Debate
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@geofftech2
@geofftech2 6 жыл бұрын
'Syrusrail', ha ha! yeah, i'm going with that. anyway, "Crossrail" is the Mode, "Elizabeth" (however ridiculous and wordy it is) is the name of the line on that mode. that's whats gonna work for me ...
@BrySchec
@BrySchec 6 жыл бұрын
Of course you're here
@AbsolutGB96
@AbsolutGB96 6 жыл бұрын
I just left a request stop video for this, leave me alone Geoff
@HM...333
@HM...333 3 жыл бұрын
I don't get it, it has the same number of Syllables as the Piccadilly line
@grassytramtracks
@grassytramtracks 9 ай бұрын
​@@HM...333i would like it to have less myself
@alharzm
@alharzm 6 жыл бұрын
Eventually at the end we all going to call it Purple Line 😆
@cityhacksLondon
@cityhacksLondon 6 жыл бұрын
So! True!
@discogareth
@discogareth 6 жыл бұрын
Crossrail is the mode, such as Underground, DLR, and Overground and should be referred to as such. The roundels should say Crossrail. For example there aren't light blue Victoria Line roundels on the tube! Elizabeth Line is a line on Crossrail. When the second line opens it should be for example 'The William Line'. So another line on what is the mode called Crossrail.
@Mr_SaltyChip
@Mr_SaltyChip 6 жыл бұрын
Me too
@crispinl
@crispinl 6 жыл бұрын
I physically can't agree more
@EliteXtasy
@EliteXtasy 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree.
@topgames1113
@topgames1113 6 жыл бұрын
Finally, was looking forward an explanation for weeks. Tnx you’re awesome. 🤗
@kseniaevstefeeva9624
@kseniaevstefeeva9624 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not a londoner, but if I am one day or if I go as a tourist again, I'll definitely call it Crossrail, just the same way I used the words "overground" and "tube" referring to modes of transport. At least it works with "overground", because it's a huge single net. But, if Crossrail has another line on it in years to come, it'll be fair to call whatever names those lines would have.
@vanillasplash6198
@vanillasplash6198 6 жыл бұрын
You remind me of Richard Ayoade (IT crowd) lol
@mimiHTcat
@mimiHTcat 6 жыл бұрын
the french have always used numbers/letters tho. their metro uses numbers (ex ligne 13) their RER system (which is similar to crossrail) uses RER A, RER B, etc. CR1 and CR2 could work?
@SaturnCanuck
@SaturnCanuck 6 жыл бұрын
Disclaimer. Not a Londoner (but Mum and Dad were). What the heck is wrong with Crossrail. It describes the line and is two syllables, easy to say and remember. Keep it Crossrail. (oh, loved the three tourist girls over your left shoulder).
@noahbowie5985
@noahbowie5985 6 жыл бұрын
Last debate we kind of got wrong We didn't get it kind of wrong. We got it totally fucking wrong Also 48-52 not a majority. That is fucking brilliant
@cityhacksLondon
@cityhacksLondon 6 жыл бұрын
;-)
@evancortez2
@evancortez2 6 жыл бұрын
if it is called crossrail I imagine that'll be shortened to 'the X' and if there's a 2nd crossrail, it'll be 'the X2' - oh and it looks like it's finally getting warmer there in London - Good! By the time I get there, I won't need a thick bulky jacket
@georgegiorgino88
@georgegiorgino88 5 жыл бұрын
I cried with the comment about the majority and the connection with brexit results 😂
@DC4444
@DC4444 5 жыл бұрын
I find this debate interesting because Auckland's suburban network goes against every reason in this video as to why Crossrail Elizabeth Line
@davsav
@davsav 6 жыл бұрын
The name crossrail will soon be forgotten apart from a possible north-south route. I don't have a problem calling it Elizabeth in the same way I can easily say Piccadilly line.
@sphericalchess
@sphericalchess 4 жыл бұрын
Call it the Brexit Line.
@teknekon
@teknekon 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Syrus. Clever and insightful. Thanks for your input. Love and cheers! 👍💗😘🇬🇧
@scotteyboy1983
@scotteyboy1983 6 жыл бұрын
I am going to go with Geoff with this and going to call it Crossrail’s Elizabeth line
@hellojasonsuresh
@hellojasonsuresh 6 жыл бұрын
Boris can do one. Does anyone even know that it was renamed the Elizabeth line outside these circles? EVERYONE CALLS IT CROSSRAIL!
@ladykiller0005
@ladykiller0005 6 жыл бұрын
How many persons were watching the tourist take photos at the phone booth?
@ankledsquid
@ankledsquid 6 жыл бұрын
I'm calling it crossrail because the e******** line implies that it is a tube line when really it's just a normal railway that ironically passes underneath London
@Cloudrak
@Cloudrak 5 жыл бұрын
EliziRail sounds like a good crossover.
@whoisy.jxnnie6313
@whoisy.jxnnie6313 6 жыл бұрын
i want it to be called crossrail City Hacks London :)
@cityhacksLondon
@cityhacksLondon 6 жыл бұрын
Yes it is! lol
@cityhacksLondon
@cityhacksLondon 6 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@Nick-kz6dg
@Nick-kz6dg 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Syrus. I will note that in many of your videos you called them "Thameslink line" and the biggest offender: "DLR line" [shudder]. So "line" isn't explicitly the Tube... I personally love Geoff's solution: Crossrail is the mode (like the Underground), Elizabeth line is the service (like the Central line). But I HATE the mode roundels saying "Elizabeth line" not "Crossrail", and I'm from Australia!
@bsansom
@bsansom 6 жыл бұрын
I'll be calling it the Elizabeth line, although I do feel as if TfL have made a mistake in branding it as they are. On the recent new signs at stations (Farringdon I think), they have 'Elizabeth line' written as if it was a tube line, but as well as this there is the purple roundel symbol too. To me, if they're intent on naming it as if it was a tube line, then it should be branded as part of the Underground, with the red roundels and all (even if it isn't technically a 'tube' line). I do think, however, that 'Crossrail' is a very utilitarian name for the service. All the other lines, eg 'Bakerloo' and 'Jubilee' have nice, pleasant names, whereas 'Crossrail' sounds like the name for a heavy engineering project but not much else. I do hope that, in the future, it will be incorporated into the Underground network as, for the vast majority of people, it will be used as just another tube line (albeit one stretching far out of the Greater London boundary!).
@joncund8021
@joncund8021 6 жыл бұрын
I hate how things are named after someone who had nothing to do with it
@jungfraumedia
@jungfraumedia 6 жыл бұрын
For me it´s Crossrail.
@airplaneplustrainguy8143
@airplaneplustrainguy8143 6 жыл бұрын
F*ck it, I call it eithet GeoffRail, SyrusRail, London Overground or TfL Rail
@FernandsLiveShowShow
@FernandsLiveShowShow 6 жыл бұрын
"...which name should *REMAIN*" hehehe I see what you did there...
@TheHorrorDevotee
@TheHorrorDevotee 6 жыл бұрын
I'm always gonna call it the Elizabeth Line. Deal with it.
@crazysharkgaming8947
@crazysharkgaming8947 6 жыл бұрын
The problem I have with "Elizabeth Line" is the fact that it was only done by Boris so he could try and get a knighthood. I'm fine with Elizabeth Rail, but it was named like a London Underground line, which it isn't. I'll have to stick with Crossrail.
@390h8er
@390h8er 6 жыл бұрын
Crossrail TILL I DIE!! TfL I hope you're watching, you will never win!
@cityhacksLondon
@cityhacksLondon 6 жыл бұрын
Haha ;-)
@customtransport2777
@customtransport2777 6 жыл бұрын
Crossrail and only Crossrail because this network is not part of London Underground so it should not be called E********** Line and anyway this word is forbidden to be used in my bus community
@cityhacksLondon
@cityhacksLondon 6 жыл бұрын
Haha ;-)
@ankledsquid
@ankledsquid 6 жыл бұрын
The name we shall not speak of implies that it is just another tube line when really it is a normal railway that ironically passes underneath london
@DemonKitty666_
@DemonKitty666_ 4 жыл бұрын
Why not call it Elizabeth line (Cross rail) In brackets underneath!
@RBXTrains
@RBXTrains 6 жыл бұрын
We call our train lines "lines" in the West Midlands, "Snow Hill Lines", "Cross City Line"
@YasinBusEnthuiast2024
@YasinBusEnthuiast2024 6 жыл бұрын
I know this fucking Crossrail Horror 😂😂😂 you thumbnail so funny
@methethpropbut8519
@methethpropbut8519 6 жыл бұрын
lizard line pls
@randomyoutubechannel2470
@randomyoutubechannel2470 4 жыл бұрын
Im calling it Elizabeth Rail.
@alemihe
@alemihe 6 жыл бұрын
Here's my suggestion: Elizabeth Rail.
@EliteXtasy
@EliteXtasy 6 жыл бұрын
One too many more extra syllable? Nah.
@cityhacksLondon
@cityhacksLondon 6 жыл бұрын
Nice ring to it.
@timdaugherty5921
@timdaugherty5921 6 жыл бұрын
Is this still a topic!!??! Loll. Just call it the new train hah
@GoofyahhOhiobot_2.0
@GoofyahhOhiobot_2.0 3 жыл бұрын
but Elizabeth line is crossrail
@harrisonbatzloff5307
@harrisonbatzloff5307 6 жыл бұрын
Crossrail's Elizabeth Line
@ovaltineforlife4778
@ovaltineforlife4778 5 жыл бұрын
Metropolitan has more syllables than Elizabeth, but I think Crossrail is better.
@DavidJones1
@DavidJones1 6 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, I call the Millennium Dome the o2 arena. But still say Olympic park / Stadium
@Danielfaust0
@Danielfaust0 6 жыл бұрын
Crossrail!! (I will be ok with Elizabeth Rail, as long as it’s referred as a rail service, not a tube line)
@ankledsquid
@ankledsquid 6 жыл бұрын
How did syrusrail get 13%
@Ethan-ik1nm
@Ethan-ik1nm 6 жыл бұрын
100% crossrail. Always will be. Crossrail has been the name since the route was initially devised in the 90's or perhaps earlier. It is a cross-London-rail-link. Either way, im sure anyone can agree 'elizabeth line' isn't as bad as 'hammersmith and city line' that sooooo should be called the hammerking line (Hammersmith-kings cross)
@Ethan-ik1nm
@Ethan-ik1nm 6 жыл бұрын
TheRenaissanceman65 crossrail 2, or make crossrail the mode and give each of the lines a name. By putting 'elizabeth line' on roundels outside of a station, that means 'elizabeth line' is the mode but why would the mode of transport have the word 'line' in it. At Brixton, the mode of transport isn't 'victoria line' and the roundel certainly isn't light blue. If Crossrail 2 is classed as the same mode of transport as crossrail when it's built, the name of the line will be whatever but outside stations, it will have a purple roundel saying 'elizabeth line' which is misleading and doesn't make sense. Either way, we don't need either of the lines named by another royal, they already have the jubilee and Victoria lines' and don't need more
@joshuahalla.k.a.controlla6333
@joshuahalla.k.a.controlla6333 6 жыл бұрын
Crossrail.
@Slay-vx4lu
@Slay-vx4lu 5 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth line= youtube likes Crossrail = youtube dislike
@uktransporthub9011
@uktransporthub9011 6 жыл бұрын
In the bus community saying e*******h line is forbidden
@customtransport2777
@customtransport2777 6 жыл бұрын
Correct
@cityhacksLondon
@cityhacksLondon 6 жыл бұрын
Haha ;-)
@aboubasakiofire884
@aboubasakiofire884 6 жыл бұрын
Why don't we just call it Boris Johnson line to see if he likes it.
@aboubasakiofire884
@aboubasakiofire884 6 жыл бұрын
Because he named it the Elizabeth.
@dtvfan24
@dtvfan24 6 жыл бұрын
agree, just think cross rail is better but of course cross rail 2 + will come. Elizabeth line is just too large.
@Leoleo-dz2xs
@Leoleo-dz2xs 6 жыл бұрын
Erm........dont think your getting a knighthood now
@KristerL
@KristerL 6 жыл бұрын
Crossrail is the name of it! ALWAYS CROSSRAIL!
@KristerL
@KristerL 6 жыл бұрын
Also Crossrail. Just like London Overground or Tramlink, it's just Crossrail for me. I can however accept "Elizabeth Line" as the line on the mode "Crossrail". But the roundels should say Crossrail, 100 %.
@EssexWolf1993
@EssexWolf1993 6 жыл бұрын
Crossrail, always Crossrail for me!
@Cloudrak
@Cloudrak 5 жыл бұрын
*C R O S S R A I L*
@Missybeelondon
@Missybeelondon 6 жыл бұрын
We are stubborn with names, lol Crossrail is easy Tfs hun
@martinhd3705
@martinhd3705 6 жыл бұрын
The first Crossrail Service should be called Elisabeth Line and the second should be called by whoever is king or queen by then. But never mind my opionon as I'm from Heidelberg, Germany and just follow this discussion from far away. Talking about next kings from the perpective of another country: I like your Willie very much. - Does this sound a bit rude in english?
@ellen.montgomery
@ellen.montgomery 6 жыл бұрын
I vote Crossrail, but aren't the Borris bikes now called Sadiq Cycles? 🤔😂
@cityhacksLondon
@cityhacksLondon 6 жыл бұрын
I think only I call them that ;-)
@cityhacksLondon
@cityhacksLondon 6 жыл бұрын
Haha ;-)
@suzie4404
@suzie4404 6 жыл бұрын
Crossrail = Parts of line that are Not in London Elizabeth line = Parts of the line that are in London. Everybody wins.
@murdelabop
@murdelabop 6 жыл бұрын
As an American, how about I just call it "the Purple Line" until y'all get it sorted out. ;-)
@Slay-vx4lu
@Slay-vx4lu 5 жыл бұрын
British people can’t even say R
@dominicgarciajr
@dominicgarciajr 6 жыл бұрын
How about "The Liz"? Just my humble American opinion.
@EliteXtasy
@EliteXtasy 6 жыл бұрын
That's a bit cringey.
@tboy619619619
@tboy619619619 4 жыл бұрын
48/52 is a majority?? What is he on about
@hankybostik7634
@hankybostik7634 6 жыл бұрын
Brexit means brexit 🤪✌🏻🇬🇧
@juliaward1127
@juliaward1127 6 жыл бұрын
I vote Elizabeth Line.
@Ethan-ik1nm
@Ethan-ik1nm 6 жыл бұрын
Julia Ward **every other Londoner glares angrily** she has enough named after her, the word 'line' shouldn't be used in a mode of transport. It's like when you hear tourists say "in going to take the underground line Piccadilly to south Kensington"
@juliaward1127
@juliaward1127 6 жыл бұрын
Ethan - *You speak for yourself* when you write on the City Hacks channel, not millions of strangers. What a shame you haven't heard of people being entitled to a point of view different from yours. I suggest you read Syrus's invitation to vote. Voting would be fixed if he followed your path.
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