Crowder's wife left him lol - Off The Rails #69

[@harley-lynn]

thank god crowder clarified his kids are blameless for his divorce because when i heard the news my first thought was "bet it was those little twerps"

[@MoreMaddie]

Lmao 😂

[@1standlast]

Dude 😂😂

[@angelo2751]

twerps omg 🤣

[@grimdeth2197]

I thought the same thing! It must be those now fatherless degenerative 2 year olds! He's got to be careful, or they will join the cartel.

[@Sassalyssa]

LITERALLYYYY

[@The_Outsider.]

The next logical step would be to send Dad the scorpion chair

[@biz_bee]

Somebody put this on the subreddit so they see it

[@bumblebeebrass164]

He is damned to a lifetime of back pain, sharp corners, and having his feet raised up

[@sdelp077]

Omg 😂🤣Best comment I read in such a long time!!

[@OpticSkies]

@@biz_bee It’s already in the comment section of the original thread. That’s likely where they got the idea from.

[@laurenhatter6824]

At least you’re funny about it

[@shavedparmesanprosciuttoan4317]

Remember the weigh in? Where dad came out acting all crazy and trash talking and then AB playfully made fun of his suit and he got all sensitive and quiet, that’s dad summed up in a nutshell

[@VeeJayASMR]

💯

[@notnicecole]

And then he smashed your boy

[@jennyp123]

was actually really surprised to hear Dad was talking shit on AB. I had no idea before this episode. I just feel bad for AB. I know this kind of stuff bothers him, rightfully so, especially when AB treats others with nothing but respect. That sucks

[@kdmgabs4599]

I genuinely thought it was a bit and I feel like it mostly still is but at the same time I don’t? This is so confusing now especially because both Ethan and AB tweeted and said how much they love Dad even after he won and how Ethan will always support Dad now on lol

[@livewiiiiire]

He seems so jealous that he won, but isn't getting as much praise as AB is for losing? It's so confusing. And he's thinking way too deep in to his relationship to Ethan/H3, it is so strange. I did not expect this

[@jose.fresco]

Anyone else upset they turned the live chat off. I'm not a fan of being censored. Hey crew can you just look away and let us chat amongst each other.

[@halodeer]

@@jose.fresco I think they did that so Dad doesn’t get more upset since he (a grown man) can’t seem to turn it off himself. They enabled it after they were done talking about it so it’s not so bad

[@jackies8124]

I have an idea that dad may have actually been hurt by what Anisa and Ian said about him on the podcast that they thought it would be an easy win for AB and that he's a weirdo or whatever they called him. Now he's taking it out on Ethan and AB which sucks because I agree AB doesn't deserve it and I feel he takes things to heart.

[@kassidya9164]

wonder what LuckyBoy would say about Dad's claims that AB apparently didn't train hard enough or take this match serious enough... honestly it's offensive to his occupation as a professional trainer to say one of his boxers wasn't dedicated enough. LuckyBoy would've never wasted his time on AB if he felt AB wasn't taking this serious.

[@asterlazer]

I had the same thought !!

[@Kiddaperdidda]

Exactly what I was thinking!!!

[@mtmagnus01]

Not to mention Ian’s coach who also helped AB with his training, seems like a bad idea to insult the coach of one of the founders of the event

[@rahni5174]

I was thinking this when AB SAID “it's not just me he's disrespecting.” the time an effort lucky boy would have put in to help AB plus all the help for the other coaches like ians...just pathetic to see dad be that mean

[@grayfairy8888]

Yeah, also I feel like people don’t acknowledge some people gets nerves when it comes down to the real thing. Sometimes you blank and that’s the vibe I got from AB cuz he even said he practiced against body shots but it completely left his head when he got up there.

[@TheMomno]

My dad was abusive. Steven's constant referencing the kids "safety" is a threat. He's is telling his ex-wife to keep quiet or else.

[@msgesus4518]

True

[@amdonut8091]

For real. Fucking creepy as hell. Truly evil shit.

[@17thknight]

That was weird as hell. Wtf does your divorce have to do with your kids' physical safety unless you're the threat to their safety

[@GCT1990]

He's not, you're just messed up in the head enough to read between lines that aren't there... You should talk to someone

[@kiaraeshi]

oh my god…

[@isaiahjmartin]

I feel like something is wrong with Dad because this is the single most confusing turn of events I’ve ever witnessed on the show. I thought it was a bit for like the first 10 minutes of the segment

[@DreadfulUtopia]

I agree. I don't wanna claim to know anything about the guy's personal life but what I witnessed, this insane switcharoo on his part, to me was indicative of some kind of mental disorder. Bipolar or something? I don't know, but it's genuinely so bizarre. I kinda can't believe it. I think we're all just dumbfounded.

[@aschomm1572]

His pituitary. It’s broken.

[@aarondonald1611]

Gaslighting

[@Blaurot]

​@@DreadfulUtopiadont armchair psychoanalyse someone thats fd up

[@LadyAurian]

Reminds me of the Nikocado thing, where at first I also thought it was shtick only to realize he was actually mad. Then I could see how Ethan went too far, but this time, super confused. Hopefully the fans respect Ethans direction to leave dad alone and the thing dies here.

[@maddiem1182]

i would love a video of zach explaining how the sound board works. how does he label them/organize them? does he search for them on the spot or is it a big screen with a million buttons on it?? does he prepare them before the show based on what the talking points are? i’m actually so curious. he’s a legend 🙌🏻

[@joshpeaco9287]

They actually did show it in a previous BTS

[@maddiem1182]

@@joshpeaco9287 do you know which one?

[@joshpeaco9287]

Yeah Zach Louis house tour ft acoustic performance

[@Unclejamsarmy]

I’m curious too. He doesn’t get enough credit, I have literally never seen *anyone in any form of media EVER* as good as he is at it

[@helenf.7221]

I’m guessing they have key words like hashtags he can quickly type in and the select. His memory too is probably unreal because he probably remembers what they sound like based on what he names them. Just my theory as I’ve been thinking about this for awhile lol

[@victoriaking7362]

Just wanted to give my two cents on the no-fault divorce laws: As a New Yorker, it took several years for my parents’ divorce to be finalized. My father was severely abusive, like way more intense than what has come out about Crowder and often put all of our lives in danger, and it still took years for him to sign the papers. Also, keep in mind the abuse wasn’t swept under the rug-we had many run ins with the police and we were in family court for years, so all of this was documented. Not only did the divorce take forever, but it was mandated that the children, who he’d abuse, had to visit him every single weekend or our mom would be punished by the courts. So while they lived separate lives for years, my mom was still legally tied to him due to pure spite on his part. The system isn’t meant to protect women and children from their abusers and I am so happy Hilary was able to make a relatively clean break. 1:35:40

[@mickyschmidt395]

I love the "I can fix him" mentality Olivia has towards The Quartering. It's so bizarre

[@r.i.pmydog7723]

Its a really funny bit

[@frosty_teacup]

It's so outta pocket I kinda live for it. Like, slay girl 👀💅

[@stzcolsef]

It's cause he's literally a fan he just needs that support and final push and he could probably get along with the entire crew 🤯🤯🤯

[@baabaq9126]

She has me believing it too😂

[@sheowserr665]

he just wants to be besties and everyone sees it especially liv

[@savvy350]

now i have 2 dads to be disappointed in

[@laceospades]

Ow. What are we gonna do about it?

[@MsIneedMoreSleep]

Bruh 😂

[@vanillameanfrappe]

Underrated comment

[@tleexoxo]

Underrated comment. 🏆 (^ just noticed I was beat to it, but what's done is done.)

[@mc04_]

this is one of the best comments I have seen

[@anii2987]

I'm legitimately shocked by how insecure Dad is. The dude seems nice, don't get me wrong. It's just worrying that he's holding such intense resentments over things that are objectively not really that big of a deal. I mean come on man... you're an adult

[@TheOtherAnne]

Didn't ethan say Dad had dead girlfriend energy? Dad's girlfriend did pass away so that comment might have caused a rift

[@gazumcazum5250]

​@@TheOtherAnne no he didn't say that, Anthony Fantano said that on the pod

[@micromoron]

​@@TheOtherAnne Anthony and Ethan were talking about Ab and Dad's fight, and Anthony said something along the lines of "he's coming at you with dead gf energy, thats something you don't wana fight against"

[@morriganrose7303]

i was in his discord server for a bit, its very small and hes active. i liked it but he was saying the same things there after cc and it felt weird so i left

[@Frannie2199]

@@TheOtherAnnethat was wild as fuck but so long ago do you really think it caused this?

[@carmandirda]

My favorite comment on the Crowder situation was Hasan realizing that the number of poisoned husbands reduced drastically once divorce laws allowed women to leave. 😂

[@angelalurtz3638]

Aqua Tofana was a thing for a reason 😅

[@vanessaultimo1926]

I mean ...till death do us part 😂

[@solidbanjobanjo9367]

White women logic

[@VildhjartaFanGurl]

Lmfao you gotta love it.

[@mattohoshi]

You should charge the doctor a cancellation fee

[@nickyhulse6681]

Haha...yes!

[@anthonytenkku43]

TRUUUUEEEEE

[@malloy8824]

@@nickyhulse6681 jackalope

[@sheowserr665]

620k perhaps?

[@Wyattgonzo1]

​@sheow serr ah yes the law of equivalent exchange

[@abbym2550]

Ethan! I normally listen through apple podcast and rarely watch the youtube videos (due to lack of time) but when i’m at the gym or smoking at home I turn on the youtube videos. And I can DEFINITELY see the progress in your weight loss journey! It’s hard for you and others around you who see you daily to see the difference but you look SO much smaller than you did a few months ago! don’t give up! You look great!

[@jordanpeterson1893]

Shout-out to your family Abby. You're the real Family Family Family ❤️

[@haileewine]

Literally when the video started I almost thought it was an older video because of how thin he is

[@Kittieslovetacos]

@@jordanpeterson1893 had to double take when I read your username lol. Smooth move with the Schwarz

[@omarjrrascon]

AB really damaged Dad’s pituitary gland. This Man is unrecognizable.

[@Madness200]

😂

[@martyrmagoo6586]

I thought it was going in the Oliver Tree direction of bits then he went all full send Kav Kav he going to learn Ethan is alpha DAD!!!

[@lepus6511]

Why does it lie?!

[@Cheems09]

"dead girlfriend energy"

[@bumblebeebrass164]

Let’s just avoid this Dad storyline, no one should say anything to the guy. Let’s just move on 😬

[@laurenhatter6824]

Agree. We have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes. No reason to stir up more trouble for everyone involved.

[@Sassalyssa]

I havent watched the ep yet and this comment is making me nervous oh shit

[@MAROKEx]

the beef feels so fake to me idk why

[@johnnyrotten1666]

​@@Sassalyssa Dad is tweaking. He even flipped out on AB acting like a sore winner and being jealous of AB's success on Twitch. He's lost the plot.

[@CaptHB]

Gotta excommunicate him now to secure his dying career.

[@KassandraTovar]

The crew calling her "candy"is too funny knowing how evil she is

[@ToruKun1]

I always called her Klandice

[@siddhantshetty8296]

86668

[@siddhantshetty8296]

7😊py77

[@zacharialewis9498]

@@ToruKun1 so original, did you invent that

[@trigunchica14]

@@ToruKun1as a Candace, I hate that 😂

[@EvWuzhere]

As a big fan of dad all his current comments about the situation seem really bizarre- the pod never once painted him in a bad light, whether it be during ABs fight or with the chair or whatever. Im pretty sure it even exposed him to a new audience who could appreciate what an OG internet legend he is and how likeable he is as a person underneath the character he projects to the internet. But all this resentment from him is just so out of pocket and i dont blame the crew at all for trashing on him after it

[@DreadfulUtopia]

I know. I'm an OG Dad fan from back in the day and seeing him act like this just feels so bizzare.

[@gunnar699]

Agree, i dont understand why he is so mad, because it was so funny when Ethan said Dad has crazy dead girlfriend vibes and has nothing going on in his life. It is even funnier because dads girlfriend is dead haha

[@GenesisTheKitty]

@@gunnar699 hey can you point me to where he said this

[@Pabmyster]

Nah, during the members stream they were sincerely being assholes to him. But since then they've apologized, so yeah he is a bit out of pocket

[@idamison]

i guess he’s bitter that he didn’t get mega clouted up after winning the fight?? He’s wasting a lot of time shitting on his friends/peers and starting drama that he could be spending just making his content more entertaining, idk🤷🏼

[@19popopcom]

Congrats AB! You might have not won the fight but you def beat Dad's pituitary.

[@Stickydatepuddin]

hahahahaha

[@BallinBunBun]

LMAOOO

[@bryan92496]

Yooo. Didn't even think about that. AB definitely fucked up Dad's pituitary gland. That's the only logical explanation for his behavior.

[@MossoDaBanana]

@@bryan92496 nah, he seems to have always be kinda unhinged, just became evident.

[@meowJACK]

​@@bryan92496 so sad.... For a son to do that to his own dad... 😞💔 It made me cry...

[@Happiestnat]

Someone please make a compilation of Ethan saying “chat gpt” wrong

[@Madness200]

I could go for a fun little 1 hour compilation right now. 😁

[@zeynep-jg6jq]

​@@Madness200 😊

[@nancymcnally7849]

​@@Madness200 😂😂😂

[@KatiePotatie1986]

Honestly, I've heard him say "chat gtp" so many times now that "chat gpt" sounds weird and wrong.

[@theadventuresofmeeee]

My fav is chat GPS

[@tschmizz]

the fact that I’m bummed out that I didn’t get to see grown men get a prostate exam….ahhh gotta love the family.

[@klashmar13]

I was going to comment this 💀

[@lindsey1437]

Yeah what happened to that sis they say and i missed it

[@nopeee420]

I don’t know what my life has come to anymore 🥺

[@lindsey1437]

@Ivanka it's the little things in life we get to enjoy fuck it. Trying to explain to my bf anything is so hard at this point the lore runs so deep too

[@lotoreo]

"bummed" out, lol

[@andersontrudgen1906]

Zach has been MURDERING the sound bites lately. he's on fire

[@EmilyMacDonald-w5o]

Lately? Lol

[@simsimdabear]

Dudes playing like Jordan tossing that one dude from Utah outta the way while nailing a dagger.

[@Molten_Universe]

I found out who Dad was through this show, since he would always comment and you guys would read his comments. As a friend of the show I subbed to him even tho I don't find his videos entertaining. I think you guys gave him a lot of exposure, idk why he feels entitled to more. As for the trash talk leading up to the fight, I don't think anyone ever saw it as real instigation of hate. I've always seen love and support for him here, and even after the fight vast majority of comments were showing him mad respect for winning vs AB.

[@user-qb5dd6lq2p]

*To be perfectly honesty, when the dad-chair bit originally happened last year, I remember being super confused cuz I didn't really get it or think it was funny and figured I missed an inside joke or something lmaoo*

[@Lil_Why]

I felt that aswell. Then they had to clear things after that, saying it was a bit right ? I’m mentally fucked from the whole situation 🥴

[@johnnyrotten1666]

I'm still trying to figure what Dad's bit was that he thought was so great that he's now upset because Ethan "ruined" it. Because it seems like he wanted to give Ethan that chair and then he wanted Ethan to respond like, "thanks for the awesome chair Dad" and that's it. I'm struggling to find something funny or interesting about this bit that he thinks was so genius.

[@beebhabie]

I thought it was funny he sent the chair and they got “mad” they had to set it up themselves lmao

[@marronrey489]

It felt like bullying and it wasn’t funny at all

[@mirinana]

@@marronrey489 you are weird af

[@zey5394]

a round of applause for that background CAMILY CAMILY CAMILY

[@sarahschouveller1993]

Is that an owl on the cactus on the right side? Kinda looks like a ghost owl.

[@fettfan91]

too good can't ruin it

[@patdogfish]

Olivia is the best I love her! ❤️ She's been such a great addition to the lady representation in the show. Her vibes and comedy = 10/10

[@bleach_19]

Olivia drinks slay tea everyday

[@SuggestiveHappyFace]

and she is sooooooo pretty i almost cant look directly at her like the sun

[@mayap331]

I also love that shes a bit younger than the rest of the crew, she brings more of the gen z humor and she never fails to make me laugh

[@Petdub]

@@mayap331 when the crew doesn’t laugh I hope she knows that we are 😂😂

[@cool5529]

@@Petdub they don’t laugh because she isn’t funny

[@emmamelch]

Shoutout AB, always keeping it classy and being humble

[@jennyp123]

this. i really admire that about AB. always calm and collected, even if he’s not on the inside

[@sturdybutter]

I like how dad is like “this whole chair bit that Ethan started” like dude, what? Supermega and Hasan started the bit and you inserted yourself into it, dad. You actual clout goblin.

[@jtdfluglzfutzfdt]

i actually laughed when he said "now ethan is FORCING me into this bit", like bro you're the only one trying to make this about yourself

[@Dhi_Bee]

I just wanna say I’m glad when Olivia chimes in. She’s always spitting “fax no printer” as the youngins say

[@idkwhatmynameis3202]

😂😂

[@elliecole7928]

Sad that dad undermined all the hard work AB put in, seems like a sore winner. You did amazing AB!❤

[@MichaelBrown-vb1jk]

@@dm_1236 I think we found Dads alt

[@miqseri]

@@dm_1236 He still did train hard as HELL. Like boi.

[@__ren]

@@MichaelBrown-vb1jk he's been all over this comment section just minutes after the pod ended. love these dedicated anti-stans giving H3 views and engagement lol

[@anderino_]

@@dm_1236 want someone to say it how it is… check your comments bubba. you habitually hate watch h3 just waste your time and energy in the comment section. Allll so you can pitch that tiny tent in your pants

[@CastleMati]

​@@dm_1236 luckyboy would never train his ass for a second if AB wouldn't give 110%.

[@michaelashirley2001]

ok olivia really didn’t have to slay that hard today. she ate that look up 🔥

[@maddiethegladiator]

I was looking for this comment she ate

[@MeatCatCheesyBlaster]

You zoomers talk weird as hell

[@servancastillo986]

Olivia is always slaying, cooking and eating out there in the H3 Podcast Command Centre. Truly a queen.

[@lilpeasad]

olivia took a double dose of her slay pills for this one !! the colors are incredible !!!!

[@YerkyMadeIt]

I would do anything to take her out for ice cream and a terrible movie 🥰

[@kinghaki3000]

Dad is way too sensitive for someone who's been on the internet for so long. It's almost like he wants EVERYBODY to like him.

[@sarahschouveller1993]

And the harder he tries, the more it backfires

[@yipyipitsme123]

I don't disagree, but I do think a lot of it is fallout from his girlfriend passing away a year or so ago. not saying I defend it, I don't, but some forgiveness from h3 cast and fans may be the best route here.

[@MNice82]

The weird thing is, the H3 fam DOES like him..

[@DudleyTwoToes]

Dad did the same thing when he was on AGT and thinks the producers had everything planned and took advantage of him (I actually worked there and have close friends that still do and know that this is not the truth). He did the same thing about Fortnite "stealing his dance moves." I knew of him way before his premier on Americas Got Talent and was so excited to meet him. Dad has some wild delusions and conspiracies' he makes up in his own head about how everyone and everything is out to get him....Guess it's true - "Don't meet your heroes" :/

[@GenesisTheKitty]

@@yipyipitsme123 oof, that is pretty rough. it sounds like everybody on the pod agrees with you here, he isnt well and those hits to the head certainly arent helping either.

[@phopk1ns]

Idk if dad is going through something personally but i think its best to just not comment further on the topic and see if hes genuinely being fr with all this

[@srcworm]

Dad is just on a whole other level with fake beef than ethan

[@phopk1ns]

@@srcworm praying that’s the case lol

[@laurenhatter6824]

And if he is genuine that’s fine too, the crew isn’t entitled to his good feelings on his behalf.

[@phopk1ns]

@@laurenhatter6824 agreed, both parties are acting pretty childish covering this whole thing when they can just straight up talk to one another. Drama sells tho 💅

[@phopk1ns]

@@yaboytroy357 AB posted a pretty damn heartwarming thank you to dad last night on his main. I’m not caught up on the timeline but I think most of this is either horrible miscommunication or both parties being a little egotistical

[@ozymandiascakehole3586]

I love that Sam Seder pointed out the way Crowder breaths when he's nervous. Once you notice it you can hear when he's scared and insecure, and to see him that way always makes my day.

[@vansdan.]

who is sam?

[@Madness200]

​@@vansdan. 😂

[@eIioperlman]

even IF ab wasn’t training that much why would it matter it’s a damn CHARITY BOXING MATCH calm down

[@horrific_dream7111]

He’s totally jealous that AB has a lot of attention from the fight, despite not winning and he had a grudge against the podcast for a long time, but ignored his negative emotions because he wanted to continue getting clout from H3 I’m also sure that seeing ab positive and happy, even after losing while dad feels like crap, even after winning, made him want to go off on the podcast it’s definitely a combination of things it’s definitely from jealousy, though miserable people try to make other people miserable

[@CrowShayHook]

The fact that Crowder is so upset his wife can leave him without his permission seems really telling as to why she left. Good for her. Best of luck to her getting out from under control. ❤

[@justjoss3290]

I hope they really listen to Dan and get him a new chair. His back hurts and it’s just uncomfortable. The bit is over with please get that man a new chair! He’s talking about it countless times and they always says they will “remodel” or fix the chair but I see no action happening! I just think of poor dans back problems and long term effects.

[@willis8907]

To add insult to injury there's a perfectly good chair Dan could use instead - the one Dad sent. Shame Ethan is just too mean to let Dan use it because he hates Dad or something.

[@SimonVanliew26]

I’m almost certain the scorpion chair is more comfortable than that piece of shit Dad sent.

[@a.lastovica]

@@willis8907I’m confused is this satire lol

[@marisolgarcia7986]

@@a.lastovica yes 😂

[@willis8907]

@@a.lastovica lol yes

[@OpticSkies]

I feel like Dad is going through some sort of episode. This is like an entirely different version of him that we’ve never seen before. Dad/Nathan is always a super wholesome and fun guy and now, all of a sudden, seems super mopey and bitter for no reason. Whatever it is, I hope he’s doing well.

[@miker-sj9mb]

Dad was always a weirdo. Got weirdo vibes from Day 1, the dude needs to get off the internet. Straight up creep imo, but maybe that's just me.

[@SnazzyParesh]

I kinda get the feeling that it was the fan backlash that pushed it over the edge for hin

[@aarondonald1611]

Gaslighting

[@miker-sj9mb]

@April Espinoza bullied? When? You're literally high rn

[@__ren]

@April Espinoza this dad thing is weird and the chair bit was weird regardless. he was upset it didn't go the way he intended and said the crew (who were obviously acting for the bit) were being really mean to him but then later he said him being upset was also a bit. i don't know if he's playing into some kaufman-esque long con but he's created a boy-who-cried-wolf situation by constantly moving the goalpost on what is or isn't a bit and then gets upset when he's taken seriously or not taken seriously enough. plus, last year post-CC1, dad was mad at matt for getting sympathy for being absolutely bodied in the fight and he wasn't getting enough attention as the winner. in reality, dad was getting tons of attention and praise about how he dominated the fight. he was also mad that he was getting framed as the bad guy which is even more weird bc his whole "dad" persona is that of a villain so... he's mad he got what he wanted? idk 🤷‍♀

[@bendermcbenderson]

Calling Candice Owen CANDY sends me every time 😂

[@melissabee5845]

The video of Hilary being abused honestly brought me to tears. That poor poor woman. I can only imagine what hell that POS put her through.

[@HkFinn83]

It was chilling. He’s a real psychopath

[@lilqueso]

The stuff he was saying was so similar to stuff I heard my dad say to my mom and I had to skip the segment lmao just shows that all narcissists have the same script and insecure

[@melissabee5845]

@@lilqueso the whole thing enrages me. It proves why it’s so hard for women to get out of these situations. Even when there is blatant proof, there are still people who say “ I’m not convinced”. It’s so fucking sad man. I’m sorry you had to go through that as a child.

[@lexxigrinch]

​@Angela W. I've never heard it worded better than that. It literally is like they're all reading from the same script. That's so weird too how that happens.

[@destinyfm7358]

Crowder not blaming his kids sounds an awful lot like Crowder blaming his kids lmao.

[@brit.annica]

I had this same thought

[@SuzakuX]

He and Hilary were married for 9 years, she filed for divorce the year she gave birth to twins. Of course there's leaked video of him verbally abusing her while she's pregnant so it's probably not entirely their fault.

[@acemyname]

he most likely does in a way, because when his wife was pregnant she started standing up for herself more!!

[@sexuallobster134679]

​@@acemyname being "less hot" during pregnancy

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

I imagine people only think kids blame themselves in the first place cuz it makes them feel better about the fact that its their fault for traumatizing their kids. The parents exist to be subservient to the child.. If you can’t do that, sterilize yourself.

[@elizabethrowe6934]

love the new background!!! cam really outdid himself this time

[@lauren_gie]

the derailed train does it for me

[@frosty_teacup]

I'm livinggggg for the UFO and the dark cozy vibes

[@baddreambaby-]

​@@hamilcrossit's a jackalope i think ☺

[@Kittieslovetacos]

I love how ethan evolved from pepsi max to coke zero. That's the arc of a man willing to change.

[@ana-z9w5d]

Hahahaha!!!!!😂😂😂

[@ldmnyblzs]

Don't worry Steven, your kids are going to grow up in a family complete with a mom and a stepdad.

[@romktch17]

I think lil stevie watched too many movies and thought if he didn't sign some sort of divorce papers his wife wouldn't be able to leave. That or he is a large fan of ISIS culture.

[@ccmitch85]

What a caring and loving liberal I though you guys took the higher road?

[@tarn2821]

@@ccmitch85 nobody said that. Cope

[@taylorswiftmidnight]

@@ccmitch85 nah, when they go low i go lower

[@nodaysoff2005]

@The only one you are big man LMAO

[@AwhNoNotTheBees]

Crowder is the type of guy to debate his own wife when she wants to leave.

[@roshnipatel2000]

“Our marriage is healthy. Change My Mind” 😂

[@xantoniax2012]

Im still convinced this is a bit leading up to dad coming on the podcast. My brain cannot comprehend dad going so sideways all of a sudden lol

[@Frannie2199]

I really hope so but AB seems really salty

[@peachyjuice]

i think you guys give the audience too much control apologizing all the time. i’ve never seen any other youtubers apologize and backtrack as much as you guys do. stop caring and do what you want guys, PLEASE. you’re literally inviting trolls and bad people to come spin the narrative or think that they should have a say over everything. don’t invite your audience to clown on you. stay confident dude

[@kitseu]

Well said

[@msthetic.x]

THIS !!!!!

[@jtdfluglzfutzfdt]

i've always felt like dad was trying too hard to insert himself and establish himself as a character in the show and it was kinda obvious that they weren't interested in that, maybe even a little bit annoyed at times (which is 100% fair) and now he's mad that they're not bending over backwards to have him on the show and that AB walked out with more sympathy and subscribers than he did. it's always kinda looked desperate to me and i don't blame the crew for probably sensing it and not giving into it too much.

[@princessmonon0ke28]

Shout out to Olivia she’s always the first to tell all the girls how good they look but damn girl you look STUNNING! Slay queen

[@dugite007]

Dan yelling "what bit" in the distance is a potential sound bite fo sho 37:10 "what bit!" & 51:44 "inaudible" 😂😂 ??"eat my wood"?? 😂

[@gracedowling5759]

time stamp?

[@sethberney1833]

I love how he just rags so hard on ethan's idea for the chair bit. At least ethan's bit has conflict. So if we go the Dad route let's roleplay it out. Dad comes on the show and gifts the pod an unironically dumb item and this item, a chair to be specific, mends h3's wounded fence/heart because this objectively ugly chair coming from a random (no one on the show knew this dude until now) is just that great? Mr I do WWE beef, sound dumb af

[@dugite007]

​@@gracedowling5759 37:10

[@triangularshape8399]

It made me lol

[@teddycuthbert]

I choose to believe he did indeed say "eat my wood"

[@omgitsrhonda]

The David Dobrik growling sound bite gets me every time 😭😭😭

[@dellarae]

Until this moment I thought there was more inside joke to the dad chair. I thought they were all buddies....so weird😅

[@Tclbmx_]

Ikr?! Its the same energy as if Oliver Tree come out and says all the drama btw him and Ethan is real all of this time lol

[@__ren]

esp when he said "this whole chair bit that ethan started" as if he didn't insert himself into banter between ethan, hasan, and supermega.

[@stephfm10]

I know! When they started talking about Dad a bunch all of a sudden i just assumed he was an old "character" in the h3-verse, like Jimmie Lee, and they just hadn't talked in a while

[@ToadsIGuess]

Part of me still believes it's a high level bit. I mean it has to be! It's getting beyond ridiculous

[@itsLemonTurtle]

Wow Ethan is looking so good and slim, his hard work IS paying off and his progress is definitely more noticeable than ever. Keep it up, proud of you!

[@gudaskateboards8990]

Meth is a hell of a drug

[@terencedorsey6717]

Please build a bridge, what you decide to do afterwards is up to you but please don't jump off

[@gummibears211]

@@gudaskateboards8990 crack*

[@firstlast2386]

Nice bot upvotes 😂

[@aodigital9421]

"good and slim" is subjective, he's still a landwh@le

[@Marina-cq2yt]

I personally was also surprised by ABs style of boxing considering the amount of training he did - with that said, it doesn't take much to realise that he was obviously taken aback by dads style and forgot his training a little bit during the actual match. Dad seems weird, i didn't love him when you guys introduced him to me - he seems lonely, and for a reason.

[@tiocoolj]

44:58 I think Dan really touched the core of the issue here. Dad did not want to play a heel on a show hes very much a huge fan of. Since dads first appearnce years ago I got the vibe that he watches every minute of this show just like I do. I can see very clear mistakes by both sides in this conflict

[@jessicablack1104]

This is super true, I honestly didn't consider that until Dan said it. That's almost certainly it and I don't blame Dad for those feelings, it's a very human response. But he should really be receptive to talking it out with Ethan and never should have publicly bad mouthed him. It's unfortunate

[@naffoff]

Very fair assessment.

[@DangerQ42]

Dad called him a bad person and uncreative. Unforgivable after inviting him into the H3verse

[@DeadGuye1995]

​@@DangerQ42 he seems quite bipolar

[@annajkhuxley]

what is playing a heel

[@Sunflower.Vol.666]

The whole dad thing is so bizarre. I don't really go on the reddit so it took me a while to realize you guys were serious and it wasn't a bit. And honestly this whole time I thought the chair thing was a bit too, including Dad being "insulted" about you guys being "mean" about it. I had no idea he was serious until today LOL. I hope he's just acting but from what I learned about Dad in the past he seems to have gone through a lot so that would explain the hyper sensitivity and whatever may be going on in his head. And a side note, the whole throwing stones then pretending its a bit, then getting offended when you guys joke back and play victim reminds me of a blonde you guys were friendly with...lol. 😅😅So maybe you guys should just keep some distance between yall and Dad before it gets too messy. But I digress.

[@MrElKabano]

Dad did a 180 on a chair thing multiple times. First he was in on it, then he said h3 were mean to him about it, then he started saying that him being upset was a joke, now it seems it wasn't. I understand Dad went through some tough shit, but it doesn't give him the right to play the victim at the expense of others.

[@fleshbirdie]

Same about it being a bit, I just thought they were doing an Oliver Tree-style "pretending to hate this guy" bit. Didn't realize Dad wasn't in on it tbh. I really like Dad's ARG/unfiction story he is (was?) working on so I'm a little bummed about this coming out. It almost seems like he's been going through some mental health episodes. Like AB said, something doesn't feel quite right with him. I'm sure the past couple years haven't been easy for him so it makes sense his mental health would be scattered, but it doesn't excuse accusing H3 of things that are blatantly false.

[@assdan27]

It's kind of difficult to tell when something isn't a bit when a person on one side of the drama's entire career is based around doing a bit. I think AB put it perfectly when he said "why do you get to dictate what's not a bit?" If Dad is going to get his feelings hurt at insults from a bit, he needs to more clearly dilineate the difference between his character and himself.

[@Memi-cp4yc]

​@@MrElKabano oh god. Unstable.

[@meowJACK]

​@@MrElKabano the fact that he flip flops so much on this stuff makes me wonder if he just enjoys the attention/drama of stirring the pot by being controversial and hypocritical on purpose. It's either that, or he's seriously mentally unstable

[@lilqueso]

Dad’s acting like the annoying little sibling that starts a fight and then go cries to mommy when they get a taste of their own medicine. Curious to see how any of the other fighters from the Creator Clash would react to this weird behavior

[@spilledsalt]

Why was Steven saying Candace was the one who made his divorce obvious as if he wasn’t passionately saying the institution of marriage is corrupt and not worth it while he didn’t have his wedding ring on? He’s really got me being a Candace Owens defender.

[@__ren]

i think he's still salty from the $50MIL drama back in january when candace patronized him hard saying we should all pray for steven bc he's obviously going through some things LOL. it led a LOT of ppl to clown and speculate all kinds of possible issues in his personal life.

[@bibsp3556]

Who cares? Let them cook

[@garafanvou6586]

I’m starting to feel Zach’s flying anxiety. His soundbites send me into orbit.

[@user-jv5xv6gj3e]

amazing

[@cMaslow]

It was all bull I feel. I think he just didn’t want to go to Japan.

[@user-jv5xv6gj3e]

@@cMaslow i got that vibe but then he started talking about it on a more serious note with therapy and his other problems. either way he doesn’t want to go and that’s 100% okay.

[@DrGonzo-ef8ir]

@@cMaslow 🤨

[@Sassalyssa]

I have flying anxiety and even tho its not debilitating, when I heard Zach talking about it, it gave me extra anxiety about flying to japan this summer 😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@pikaman67]

Okay but Ian turning it around on Zack was hilarious

[@ColumineMiette]

I love your cat pfp @sanji

[@not.megan222]

I honestly hope Dad is doing okay. I know that life gets to you sometimes, but going against the people that love and support you can hurt both parties. I think it's just a HUGE misunderstanding and it can be easily resolved. We love Dad, he is in the FAMILY. I hope he remembers that. ❤️

[@fyaot8146]

YES AGREED

[@melanie-ge1dp]

YESSS

[@izGrump]

idk this is a reoccuring thing at this point, hope whatever may be causing this issue is resolved soon tho.

[@32Theresa]

@@gatrow581he was talking shit on AB tho by assuming he didn’t work out enough 🤔

[@MJsPepsihair]

​@@gatrow581He called Ethan a stupid terrible person

[@Carolinem43219]

Dad seems super unhinged and insecure tbh I think Ethan should avoid any further argument with him something seems very off

[@DrGonzo-ef8ir]

This.

[@A2Z83]

Nathan is a professional. He has worked with everyone else and been on youtube longer than h3. Ive never heard anything bad. I think he was just upset they didnt seem to want to collaborate with him which was strange because the Dad channel was so sucessful. As a fan of Nathan it was noticable and the chair bit turned out very awkward. I was expecting the entire time for him to show up and just assumed it was on his end because he had moved out of their area but they said he even came to the studio at least once off camera. He also seemed very eager to be on the show for how often he showed up in the chat and it seemed like he had to force himself into call ins. It sounds like the only time they reached out to him to be on the show was after the fight ended after they had so many months to work with him. Ethan also said it himself that they were reluctant to work with him after the chair bit failed.

[@DrGonzo-ef8ir]

@@A2Z83 oh well... They all knew it was a bit, dads just an unstable weirdo

[@Carolinem43219]

@@A2Z83 yeah that’s what I mean by insecure tho, they aren’t obligated to invite him on this is a show they have to make content people will actually watch he can’t get butthurt over not being invited on a show that has nothing to do with him after inserting himself into the chair situation which also had nothing to do with him. Idk I don’t even hate the guy he just seems like he has personal problems that need resolving

[@Carolinem43219]

@@A2Z83 taking his anger out on AB was also rly immature and just showed a strange side of him

[@plumgeorge]

Love the Off the Rails background! Great work Cam keep it up!!

[@novaland444]

Hila’s “A FUCKING DOZER” is my all time favorite soundbite

[@LadyAurian]

You better fear Hila!

[@blueish2]

Those Hila soundbites are so powerful.

[@Madness200]

My favorite Hila soundbite is "You're on the wrong street, cuz." with the gunshot.

[@michaelrichardson9360]

Imagine if dad swapped shoes with Oliver Tree, he’d literally die from crying

[@robynbanasky549]

literally, and thats Ethan's bestie. It's how he shows affection!!

[@boolian89]

Sure that’s why WWE fans wanted Roman Reigns gone for the first half of his career. They take that shit kinda serious too.

[@poopfartlord9695]

​​​@@dm_1236 That's what's wrong with Dad, the dude is wierd he was reading and responding to all the comments under the pods. He is too sensitive to be on a platform like this, is genuinely kind of pathetic coming from a grown man.

[@CastleMati]

​@@dm_1236 you have over 1000 hate comments on this channel. Please for the love of god, touch some grass.

[@elkebelle8449]

I was thinking exactly the same thing

[@jstephen1]

The fact that dad said to AB in dm’s that AB didn’t train enough is insane. Like I can understand dad being mad at Ethan and the crew for their reactions during the members stream and maybe saying something about AB while he was caught up in the heat of the moment but to double down in dm’s to AB directly is fucking WACK.

[@bocioacaalex900]

Zach is a god on those soundbites, he is so quick and mindbending with the soundboard

[@bocioacaalex900]

Zach's sound bites channel can use like 10 clips only from this episode for the monthly comilation omggg

[@AVspectre]

He’s a Sound-Bender

[@theclawlives]

He's always great, but this week he has ascended

[@daveobee]

Honestly Dad has always given me a strange vibe. He's the definition of can dish it out but can't handle it when it's coming at him.

[@stzcolsef]

I mean his character is playing a type of divorced /broken Dad figure o.o

[@Cff-o1z]

That's literally ethan. He will call you every name in the book but will cry if you go even half as hard as he does. Not to mention he says horrible shit about other religions but cry antisemitism about a Jewish nose joke.

[@daveobee]

@@Cff-o1z Cff = Christian fallen fan?

[@joshadams8473]

@@Cff-o1z he’s called out pedo catholic priests, is that what you mean by shitting on other religions? And he shit talks on people who initiate, and if you watch the show you know it’s nothing more than surface jokes, some hit some don’t but he isn’t hateful. And calling out antisemitism isn’t just crying, it’s horrible shit that shouldn’t be swept under the rug, it has direct ties to awful shit and shouldn’t be considered “just a joke”

[@elizabeth7sj222]

@@Cff-o1z to Ethan being Jewish is not just a religion you idiot. You can’t be racist against a Christian

[@alexandra4873_]

Olivia the makeup outfit cohesion is incredible 👏 Olivia please stand up

[@ptxc1639]

Honestly I loved this episode, y'all just chilling like friends talking about shit seems to work so much better

[@Lil_Why]

Dad is giving Trisha vibes. It’s hard for me not to think this isn’t a bit. I wish dad all the best moving forward 💖 ☮️

[@ccc-kq6ef]

I see Dad and Philly D went to the same school of emotional regulation. But they were in different grades. Dad is a couple of grades higher because he's mastered the art of pretending everything is OK when he's actually hurting and not speaking up about how he really feels when given the opportunity.

[@sarnjes4810]

Ugh, why do I relate to this? Gotta keep healing my inner child 😮‍💨

[@BasicBeech]

He seems like he has the emotional intelligence of a 10 year old it’s honestly hard to listen to, “they were so meannn to me!”

[@Bubbijs]

This makes so much sense

[@teddycuthbert]

@@sarnjes4810 like Jay Shetty with Kendall Jenner, leave a like for your inner child

[@linkfamily303]

Dad being in the live chat for so many H3 shows has me leaning towards him being jealous.

[@baabaq9126]

Yhuppp

[@stzcolsef]

Fake fan behavior!!

[@miminaomi9844]

I think he had an intense parasocial relationship with h3 before even getting to know them personally

[@sarahschouveller1993]

And ppl keep saying "how dare Ethan say Dad has nothing going on in life other than boxing!?" Like I'm sorry, IT'S TRUE! I'm not even in chat half as much as Dad. He's made no secret of the fact that he has literally nothing happening.

[@oliverxhmll]

​@@miminaomi9844 ​no I think he wanted to be way more involved with this podcast than he was. That's why he's jealous of ab. He saw it as a way to gain relevance

[@lou1012]

I've pretty much only seen comments liking dad or even calling him hot. I think he's just obsessing over the negative comments right now. Seems like winning didn't really satisfy him the way he thought it would

[@A2Z83]

boxing is not the profession for him. i think wrestling is a lot different because that has more scripting and collaborating between the fighters.

[@vanessaultimo1926]

I've had a mental breakdown today. Watching this episode is slowly pulling me out of my hole again. I'm not gonna say the pod saved my life but it sure as hell makes it bearable. Thanks guys ❤

[@ba6561]

Discuss?

[@Cff-o1z]

Lol the average H3 fan can't go a single day without having a meltdown

[@ba6561]

@@Cff-o1z KEKL

[@AVspectre]

Hope your day gets better and you find a few small things (favourite song, a few minutes with a beloved pet) to ground yourself. Onwards, bit by bit…

[@jaykstah]

Dad wants to be a villain so bad but just comes off as insecure

[@spiritbones6558]

Dad's pituitary gland was damaged

[@johnnyrotten1666]

AB did that everyone saw that

[@j3junestars]

underrated comment

[@SpiderKelsey]

Honestly it’s probably best to just not comment further about the Dad situation. Peace and love peace and love let’s keep it light

[@Dis.Tasteful]

The thing is no one really talked about it but Dad was also acting very rude and cocky in context with the fight with Matt

[@johnnyrotten1666]

Apparently it's only ok for Dad to trash talk because he "prides himself" on his trash talk abilities because he's been doing it for years even working with WWE. Wow so impressive. 🙄

[@7thsense97]

how so? i don't remember him being cocky but it's been a year lol

[@kenya3981]

i recall dad saying similar things about matt not training as hard as him last year, the way he has now done with ab. which is like idk, matt’s a skinny guy and it wasn’t an evenly matched fight, i just felt that it was an unnecessary thing to say given that he literally won and had a super quick tko. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@frosty_teacup]

​@@johnnyrotten1666it's crazy because he doesn't even know the basic principles of sportsmanship. He's SO low for shit talking AB's training _after_ the fact (based on NOTHING, just his made-up assumptions). So disappointing to see this behaviour from someone who is supposed to be an OG in the KZbin entertainment industry.

[@atsu0002]

​@@7thsense97called Matt a crackhead multiple times

[@swosels]

The background is looks so nice. Good job Cam!

[@jdsuperawesome]

I hope the Dad is doing the Andy Kaufman level trolling, because otherwise he has a serious concussion from the fight

[@Jhizzle2495]

I think he has serious issues with jealously and insecure as shit

[@Anitamustdie]

@@LessonsOnTheWeb that’s on the fans for being dumb and not seeing that ofc he was exaggerating

[@Gorbgorbenson]

​@Piano Lessons On The Web I mean, Dad never brings up the fanbase as being bad or mean though. He specifically refrences Ethan. Seems weird to do that if you're "getting a bunch of hate", as you put it.

[@tuckman315]

@@Anitamustdie also I highly doubt Ethan watches boxing or any combat sports so to a outsider I could very much see why he thought he was cheating in the moment.

[@LadyAurian]

@@Gorbgorbenson Did you even watch the segment today? Dad literally said the H3 fans ruined it for him, saying the fans are awful. Which I'm sure is true, we all know every fan base has a portion with no understanding of boundaries.

[@angelinafraidany3714]

The women of this pod are so STUNNING. Love seeing my favs thriving every week!!!

[@Carolinem43219]

Fr like every time they come on screen I’m like yessss

[@abbeybrooke11]

I’m dead at Ethan calling Candace Owens “Candy”

[@morganclarkson2576]

Olivia’s outfit slayed extra hard today

[@gracedowling5759]

Dad is in the wrong here, WHAT is happening?! I feel bad for AB in all this

[@gracedowling5759]

also, dad saying that ethan is genuinely a bad person???? how dare he

[@miahibbs2031]

You did amazing AB!! You made the family super proud we love you!!!

[@paxtongray3462]

I don't follow AB super closely but I still pop into his streams every now and then, and I've heard him talk about his training on the show. As someone in martial arts- I can barely keep up my training during school. The fact that he still held his full time position AND trained AND streamed is amazing. I don't doubt for a second that he worked his ass off because it showed in the ring. Dad is an absolute beast, and the fact that AB matched his energy is wild. I get that the fight was short lived but so was his last one. If his opponents are dropping like flies that says something about who he should be matched against. I'd personally love to see him against Johnny. But if this is how he acts when he wins I would be concerned about what would happen if he lost.

[@para-yw9dn]

fr not to mention during Ramadan 😭 as a Muslim i could barely make it through sleeping half the day

[@paxtongray3462]

@@para-yw9dn FRRRRRR I don’t blame you at all it’s exhausting

[@TheNamesAllison]

He's literally saying she's not a good house wife, that she doesn't actually do anything; the roomba does. He's stooping lower and lower with his insultes in hopes to publicly humiliate her. Drilling in "if you leave me, no one else will marry you because statics say men don't want to get married "

[@animeROX08]

I hope she remarries a super nice normal dude and lives a happy life.

[@purplebanana9]

if my life depended on whether ethan said chat GPT right that day, i would for sure be dead.

[@frosty_teacup]

😭😭😭

[@greg6924]

I'm a simple man. I see H3H3 roasting Crowder and I hit the like button. Another stellar episode, ladies and gents.

[@stzcolsef]

A fellow man of culture I see *smells whiskey* ✨

[@zoeclupka9543]

Everytime i see someone say lady's and gents ironic or not, i cringe so hard 🤮🤢

[@jjm0537]

I am admittedly drunk. It took me a while to write this comment. But I just wanna say, i love this show. So. Freaking. Much. I am sure a lot of people can relate when I say that this show keeps me sane.

[@moshpitmi]

hope you're thriving king

[@leahbyrne4597]

This show has legit kept me alive, no joke. I use it in the background when the noise gets too loud

[@fungusfingergal]

@@leahbyrne4597 off topic but you’re really pretty!

[@gazumcazum5250]

Same here. I been watching since the beginning and I've had so many highs and lows in life and H3 always has been there for me.

[@leahbyrne4597]

@@fungusfingergal hahah thank you internet stranger!!

[@BigZ7337]

Thanks for the episode guys, although it sucks that Dad turned out to be a douche bag, it's so shitty to badmouth your opponent after beating them. I mean has he not watched any other MMA or Boxing matches? Body shots can end a lot of fights early, and it doesn't mean the downed fighter didn't train enough. Also, in regards to the doctor backing out, I need to know if it was after having a call with Ethan, if the Doctor just got stage fright, or if he happened to watch an episode of the podcast and immediately backed out.

[@jennyp123]

Olivia’s hair looks so good on her

[@mitzara25]

the entire fit along with make up looks great on her ✨

[@Daniel-mq9ly]

I hope dad is OK he must be going through something to speak like this, otherwise its a God level troll

[@eamoncowley214]

He’s not trolling? Ethan made fun of his dead girlfriend?

[@Molten_Universe]

@@eamoncowley214 ​ If Dad didn't like Ethan's joke he should have told Ethan to keep her out of this because it's something very personal to him, why cant some youtubers communicate like the fully grown men they are? Dad was already in his feels before that joke too

[@brittanylarington7568]

@@Molten_Universe I think it’s common sense to not joke about someone’s dead girlfriend to be fair.

[@Molten_Universe]

@@brittanylarington7568 Dad bought her up first when they were on a call with Matt Wattson shittalking each other, he kept saying how this youtube fight was very important because it was for her, etc etc. On another episode Ethan mentioned this to Fantano and Fantano said something to the effect of "yeah you don't wanna get hit with that dead gf punch". If someone said that to me I wouldn't be offended if I was the one who kept talking about how this fight was for her. Now imo Ethan's comments with Idubbbz about Dad having dead gf energy were mean but by then Dad was already mad about the chair bit. I don't think it was the dead gf thing that made him mad at first

[@MissViki96]

I think I missed it, What did Ethan say about the girlfriend?

[@micahpage7958]

Okay, so let me get this straight. Dad made shirts with tombstones and shit, really amped up that shit talking bit- but H3 FANS are mean? Wtf? Dude a WHOLE lot of us came to follow you, showed you all the love, even talked about how we wished you two weren’t matched up because we had love for you both. But the bit- which you engaged in- was too meany? Grow up dude. Ya really lost me (and tbh, I’m sure a lot of others) with that one.

[@olivia_rose3542]

The Dad situation is really sad. I've been a fan of him longer than I've been an H3 fan, have a lot of respect for him. But he's obviously going through something else and I really hope his problem isn't actually with you guys because that is such a switch up on his part. Especially going after AB made me kind of angry I'm not gonna lie and I usually don't care about any online drama.

[@juansalgado6212]

Hey everyone. My DAD posts referencing his latest update video about the pod, are getting locked or removed, not sure why. I was just showing my support for DAD. I love the pod but DAD’s response highlights the negative effects on the receivers of the meme jokes. Solidarity for DAD❤

[@katherinemustang7672]

I noticed the subredded was blocking comments on DAD posts, like wtf? we can't discuss the controversy?

[@juansalgado6212]

@@katherinemustang7672 100 agree with you. Hopefully this comment doesn’t get invoked also. The mods sent me an invitation to a Fallen Fan Page? Not sure what that was suppose to mean? Pretty disappointing.

[@GoatOfTheWoods]

Yup, this just shows Ethan's true colors, unfortunately.

[@onethirdsam]

AB is an absolute class act.