What's the difference between amplifier classes? | Crutchfield

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@aegisofhonor
@aegisofhonor 2 жыл бұрын
class D uses a 'constantly switching" PWM (pulse width modulation) to maintain the output stage of signal while allowing as much of the input power to be converted to sound. In practice, you will never get 90% efficiency out of even the best Class D amps as the efficiency comes from the output levels matching what power is required to keep the output stage running at all times, which happens between 40% and 100% of maximum output power mattering on the type of amplifier and it's max power rating and still use a good chunk of power even at idle (NOT standby, idle; it's on, just playing music). Class A for instance will often use more then 25% (sometimes 50% for smaller amps) of it's max power input even on idle and never gets above 50% efficiency even at maximum output. AB is slightly better at about 20% input power at idle and gets to about 70% efficiency at around 80% of it's output power rating or higher. Class D often uses about 10-15% of it's input power at idle and hits it's maximum efficiency at around 40% power. Because most people rarely "push" their amplifiers anywhere close to their limits, their amp's effency is never as good as it's "max efficency" because you have to output enough power and use that power to really measure any respectable amount of "efficiency".
@Skarfar90
@Skarfar90 2 жыл бұрын
Depending on the load resistance, some Class D amplifiers can reach up to 95% efficiency when kept within
@frigzy3748
@frigzy3748 2 жыл бұрын
So, from a EE prospective, class A = LDO, class D = switching converter. Cool
@TitusSc
@TitusSc 5 ай бұрын
This video feels “sciencey” but has none of the rigor or depth expected from real educational science contents. The fact that you’re saying Class D amplifiers operate just like the rest is pretty wrong and misleading.
@nighttow8780
@nighttow8780 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I can say about a/b amps from reputable manufacturers, they certainly last a long time. I have an old Kenwood kac-7201. This amp in combination with some Fosgate Subs, have been in service in my various Vehicles since I was 19. I'm 41 years old now. And just like when I was 19, I pushed these things hard every single day. The amp is underrated as well as the subs. The amp is supposed to be stable with 4-ohm load only, and I've been driving a 2 ohm load in excess of 20 years. I have yet to own a class-d amp. I have an Optimus 4-channel Class AB that I purchased at RadioShack some 22 years ago driving 4 full-range speakers. This amp is capable of driving Subs, but its built-in, non-adjustable subsonic filter starts cutting off at 32Hz. Which is absolutely unacceptable for driving Subs. But it does pretty darn good for 6 by 9 coaxials and six and a half inch components. I do have to be careful though, at Full Tilt, this setups current draw exceeds alternator output. Edit: actually now that I think about it, this Kenwood amp that I'm so fond of came from Crutchfield all those years ago. I miss the days when a phonebook sized Crutchfield catalog would arrive at my door. For you kids that don't know what a phone book is, ask mom or dad
@dandeson9723
@dandeson9723 2 жыл бұрын
i still have few old amps, one being Alpine MRV-F407 that works like a charm, no use for it but is shows how good it was built "back in the days", i also use class A/B(Magnat The Rock 800) for speakers but for subwoofer i have class D because i see no reason to dissipate many kilowatts as heat or use alot of space for it.
@cgreenfield6655
@cgreenfield6655 4 ай бұрын
Crutchfield is such a great company. Always quality info, reviews and products. Glad to see they survived the Amazon invasion.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! 🙂
@makstaz79
@makstaz79 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone explaining the amplifier classes in a way that everyone can understand.Great job!
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, DJ!
@West3rror
@West3rror 6 ай бұрын
And failed to mention key details and not all correct info.
@lennartgosman3640
@lennartgosman3640 4 ай бұрын
He did not.
@EdBenji
@EdBenji 4 ай бұрын
@@West3rror Details like price!
@tomkocur
@tomkocur 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone calling a basic class D amp "digital" should go to jail. Thank you for calling things the right way.
@talibe801
@talibe801 2 жыл бұрын
🤗😁
@talibe801
@talibe801 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir.
@henrikpersson4698
@henrikpersson4698 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing can be digital in the end, or we wouldn't hear it. Ears are analog
@tomkocur
@tomkocur 2 жыл бұрын
@@henrikpersson4698 If the device is doing some digital processing, it can be called digital. For example DSPs are definitely digital, they take analog input, convert it to digital form, do some maths on that signal and convert the result back into analog. This is digital. Class D amplifiers are in no point digital, they take analog signal, use it to modulate PWM or PDM signal to generate amplified output. This might be called discrete signal (before output filtration), but discrete is not an equivalent of digital. I think the presence of a discrete signal is where the "digital" comes from, but there's a ton of analog devices utilizing discrete signals - for example power supplies, which no one in their right mind would ever call digital.
@AT-wl9yq
@AT-wl9yq 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomkocur "Nothing can be digital in the end, or we wouldn't hear it. Ears are analog" That's a factually true statement. "If the device is doing some digital processing, it can be called digital. For example DSPs are definitely digital, they take analog input, convert it to digital form, do some maths on that signal and convert the result back into analog. This is digital." So what you're saying here a signal can be processed when its digital but then gets converted to analog in the end so we can listen to it.
@dougmurray7684
@dougmurray7684 2 жыл бұрын
A breakdown of how each of these classes work, how each reduces or increases distortion, etc., would be appreciated.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 жыл бұрын
Our article on the amp classes does go into these details here: www.crutchfield.com/I-rYALc921/learn/which-amplifier-class-is-best.html
@ToppBossLuisito
@ToppBossLuisito 2 жыл бұрын
@@crutchfield do a video tho
@askjayk
@askjayk 2 жыл бұрын
@@crutchfield do a video its 2022
@Zapgod
@Zapgod 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToppBossLuisito it delves deep into how the transistors are biased, the output waveforms in relation to the input and how class D uses pulse width module. Class A has constant on transistor which passes on as heat but there is almost no distortion. Class B has transistors turning on and off, but due to the required .3 to .6 volts required to bias the transistor when the input sinewave meets 0v both transistors are off until that knee voltage region of .3 or .6 is reached, the transistors conduct at 180degrees, so you have a less clean sinewave in the output. Thats where class AB comes in, the sinewaves are crossed over at the knee voltage of the transistors because they conduct for more than 180 degrees but less than 360 degrees of the sinewave so they are never turned off at the same time. With class C the transistors conduction region is less than 180 degrees. More like 90 degrees. So it is on for that 90 degrees and off or idle for the remainder of the 270 degrees. Remember this all happenes in a split second so if 1hz is a sinewave of 360 degrees, the transistor is only on for 25% of that time. Thus less conduction more distortion less heat more efficient. Class D amps use pulse width modulation in which instead of a sinewave the output is in pulses of "on" state or off state. These pulses are more evident at the positive peak and negative peak of a sinewave input. And less evident towards the center, these pulses create noise or distortion. Thats where low pass frequency comes in to cut off these noises.
@thewoodlife3
@thewoodlife3 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I understood what different class amplifiers are. Nice explanation. Thank you
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help!
@jeffreystroman2811
@jeffreystroman2811 2 жыл бұрын
You still don't understand if this video is your reference.
@thewoodlife3
@thewoodlife3 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreystroman2811 which one would you recommend?
@tm8473
@tm8473 5 ай бұрын
well, is very difficult to talk about amplifier classes without introducing the concept of waveform first.
@dab9742
@dab9742 Жыл бұрын
I've noticed that with class A amps, you don't have to wait long for it to reach operating temperature, and "sound" its best ! 😉
@HRazmikify
@HRazmikify 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t call the sound of a good amplifier “fuzzy….”
@evrico7
@evrico7 2 жыл бұрын
He said warm and fuzzy. To him meaning warm and soft. Sounds like you’re in the room with the artist. Listening to them sing.
@bryanguest2807
@bryanguest2807 Жыл бұрын
Not bright or harsh. Better?
@PaperBoat.
@PaperBoat. 5 ай бұрын
Class D amplifiers are 'digital' only when it contains ADC.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 5 ай бұрын
Class D as the amp designation class does not mean "Digital", that is correct.
@RA-uj3nm
@RA-uj3nm 2 жыл бұрын
Straight to the point. Easy to understand. Thanks 👍
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 жыл бұрын
You got it! If we can ever help, feel free to reach out.
@BrandonBuckaudioanarchy
@BrandonBuckaudioanarchy 2 жыл бұрын
Amplifiers convert input POWER to output POWER. ALL electrical circuits are comprised of voltage and current, the combination of which is where we derive power. Saying amps convert input voltage to output power makes no sense. You could say they convert input voltage to output voltage but that's only half the equation. They also convert current... which again, is the second component of power. To measure efficiency you can't compare input voltage and output power... you have to compare input power to output power. Hope that helps clear this up.
@adrianbennett9322
@adrianbennett9322 2 жыл бұрын
Still love the sound of my 18 year old Panasonic (Technics) Class H+ AV receiver. Have tried replacing it but I always come back to it. Can't find any info on the modules inside it, but can see two distinct voltage rails feeding them.
@West3rror
@West3rror 6 ай бұрын
I had a Technics "Class H+" surround reciver once. It must be 20 years ago now.. Decent thing as a first reciver🤷‍♂️ But those fake "5x100w" was a litteraly joke compared to 5x45 (2x55 in stereo) real messured Harman/Kardon (class AB) watts I got later. H/K had twice the power supply, delivered much more actual power to the speakers and beat the Technics in absolutely every way. Technics had some good stereo recivers but nothing I would choose over others.
@zoroluva
@zoroluva 2 жыл бұрын
Very good quick educational video. Thank you! A couple of things to note:: 1. The claimed efficiency of A/B design is realized at over 85% output... Meaning your ears would be bleeding before you get anywhere close to it's peak efficiency. 2. Class D hits peak efficiency quickly. 30-40% of output you'll almost be at max efficiency. I think most people live in this range majority of the time and this is why Class D is the future.
@patthewoodboy
@patthewoodboy 2 жыл бұрын
that would depend on the power output of the Class AB amp , if it was a 15 watt amp your ears wont be bleeding at all at 85% output
@zoroluva
@zoroluva 2 жыл бұрын
@@patthewoodboy how about a 1W tube amp?
@westelaudio943
@westelaudio943 2 жыл бұрын
In home audio, most of the time, people only use around .5 - 2 Watts depending on the speakers. Assuming the amps you compare both are rated 100 Watts RMS, you would arrive at 35 or 80 Watts, that would only be a few dB difference and you would very rarely turn up the volume that loud at home. Also class D isn't "the future", it's been in HiFi for 45 years now and probably won't get any better or cheaper. Anything where Class-D makes sense has it incorporated already, like car amps, high-power miniature amps, PA amps, portable speakers etc. Anything else doesn't benefit from the additional complexity of Class-D.
@zoroluva
@zoroluva 2 жыл бұрын
@@westelaudio943 totally agree.
@TonyDaTunafish
@TonyDaTunafish 2 жыл бұрын
Who says!!... I'm still running my Soundstream REFERENCE 705s Class A
@bluesunflower2007
@bluesunflower2007 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice and clear videos. I am from electronics background, so I know exactly how each amplifier circuits work, their pros and cons. What I don't know, however, is if a class A, class AB and class D amplifiers sound different or not, say for a typical price range. It would be great if you can post some samples or maybe fourier spectrum that shows the harmonic distortions?
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. We'll pass this along to our video team, and perhaps we can include this in a future video.
@stighenningjohansen
@stighenningjohansen 4 ай бұрын
A well executed (soundwise) amplifier has nothing to do with the class, the class has mostly to do with power consumption and efficiency. And selecting class before sound quality is probably a stupid preference, :)
@jasontyre5060
@jasontyre5060 4 ай бұрын
I can't use a class d amplifier in my car. They cause too much rfi to even listen to the radio. I have tried cheap to expensive and the outcome is similar. Of course, higher quality class d amps are better, it is still an issue. I drive a Fiesta ST, and the only place to put amps is in the hatch. Of course what is directly above the hatch? The radio antenna. That mushroom cloud of rfi just kills radio signals unless they are really close and strong. I live in a thinly populated area so radio stations are far away. Even in the city, the HD channels will not work with a class d. So I swapped the amps with A/B amps and have no radio station issues.
@CreepyCat.
@CreepyCat. 3 ай бұрын
Oh THIS MF RIGHT CHEA saying don’t care about class. He has gone and said a very unclassy thing!!
@Yes_Piano
@Yes_Piano Ай бұрын
Class AB is the winner in sound quality and fidelity aspect, class D is more compact, thus it need less power or has more efficiency but the sound is less realistic.
@pavan1000
@pavan1000 Жыл бұрын
really great explanation. loved it thank you.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield Жыл бұрын
Thanks! We're glad to hear that you found it helpful! 🙂
@amgineacoustic
@amgineacoustic 2 жыл бұрын
Either this guy is not very articulate enough to explain these matters. He uses some very wrong descriptions that are quite vague. Or he only has a very basic understanding of Electronics topology. Amplifiers amplify They do not "Convert" So they pretty dense on the surface. As he failed to describe any of the subject at all He explained nothing at all
@catherineescol7852
@catherineescol7852 2 жыл бұрын
I like this guy great Review! A blind person who enjoys great music does not know what sort of class of amps he listens, A nerdy Deep pockets audiphole would disagree though
@davidcobra1735
@davidcobra1735 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't review anything. Are suggesting that knowing what kind of class amplifier you've got or plan to purchase is a bad thing? It's usually written on the box or in the spec sheet of any quality amplifier so you truly would have to be blind to not know.
@toyotafan1234
@toyotafan1234 2 жыл бұрын
Great video crutchfield. Another great video would be to explain the differences between half bridge and full bridge amplifiers and how they work.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. We'll pass this idea along to the video team.
@ML-rm3vk
@ML-rm3vk 2 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you for the info on the classes of amp terrific video and the presenter did a wonderful job great speaking voice.peace to you
@sandozdelysid
@sandozdelysid 2 жыл бұрын
My words have been crossed out here. Not like a crossover network, but with a line suggesting that honorable speach on this platform is being censored . Forget crossover networks b*o**h
@CoolDudeClem
@CoolDudeClem 4 ай бұрын
I built a powered speaker with class B amplifier (yes, class B). It uses negative feedback to provide a "corrected" waveform to the output transistors (opposite to how they would distort) and it sounds pretty decent.
@miksumasterjbl8899
@miksumasterjbl8899 2 ай бұрын
What about Class A and Class D hybrids like Devialet Phantoms? I own one and I fell in love with the sound quality and the powerful bass. I am about to buy a Devialet Phantom 1 108dB version, but I am waiting for the next generation of Phantoms. Bluetooth 5.0 isn't enough anymore. I am waiting for Bluetooth 5.4 generation. I also asked Devialet, if they would use APTX Lossless Bluetooth codec and Wifi 7. Devialet answered to my question by saying noted. Next generation will come late 2024 or early 2025, hopefully.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 ай бұрын
Devialet power and sound quality is amazing! We are not showing any date or specs on the Devialet Phantom I 108dB replacement; but should offer it as soon as it's available so please check back.
@itisjustacomment
@itisjustacomment 8 ай бұрын
I remember building a mosfet amp some 600w single output at college 28 years ago . I still have it , but not the 15" guitar bass speaker and larger box I had set up to my stereo with I was young . Back then, I built with a normal stereo amp , mulplie crossover , plus 3 class D's one for bass and two for normal full range and the regular amp for highs only. The sound was unmatched to what I even had two, which costs 3k new just for speakers and pre plus power amp . It's amazing what building class D's yourself can achieve or trying out different chips in Morden versions at low cost. The only issue with building is the boxes, which cost more than all the components plus buying an external power supply. Luckily, I had already had multiple outputs . I wish some 30 years ago we had class D's to these days with such quality , controls, and power at around £100 pound, which can get you a 150-watt at 8ohms easily. It's kind of perfect for recond decks or phone jack to input to play KZbin music or other apps.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 8 ай бұрын
That is awesome! Class D has certainly come a very long way, that is a fact.
@abhimeshram1208
@abhimeshram1208 6 ай бұрын
T class amplifier? Tripath?
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 6 ай бұрын
Yes, The Class T is one of the Class D variations and used for Tripath's amplifier technologies.
@hahaahah7214
@hahaahah7214 2 жыл бұрын
This is an absolutely amazing explanation, I wish I watched this when I first dug my head into this HUGE rabbit hole
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 🙂
@TurboLoveTrain
@TurboLoveTrain 4 ай бұрын
Neat. I'll stick with my H.H. Scott Steriomaster.
@toysforboysrc
@toysforboysrc 4 ай бұрын
Glad you offered help because I Need someone to explain what… “ADAPTIVE FEEDBACK GLOBAL MODULATION TOPOLOGY” In a car amplifier application is and what does it for for this D CLASS four channel Alpine … It’s the model number (R-A60F) and the manual does NOT get into those details and there is not one KZbinr talking about this technology and if this is what makes a D class suitable as an A/B class? I bought it bccs it’s the only ALPINE amp that is 100w @ 4ohm x4 stereo. AND THE ANP IS “HI RES”… BUT…. It’s a D class… So what am I missing here?
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 4 ай бұрын
Great amp! What are you using it to power? Alpine did use a class D build for this amp to make it super efficient; but it does have their built-in "Dual "Sierra" feedback circuitry to ensure cleaner sound than you'd expect from a class D. That tech decreases distortion by correcting the output using the original input signal.
@nanocash89
@nanocash89 2 жыл бұрын
Quick question, would it help showing showing a car audio tech thru headphones/earbuds , what kind of sound you want in your car by showing them what type of music you listen to ?
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 жыл бұрын
Letting them know what kind of music you listen to should definitely help, as well as communicating the level of bass, volume, clarity, etc. you hope for.
@nanocash89
@nanocash89 2 жыл бұрын
@@crutchfield thank you guys do you guys have people here in nyc
@nanocash89
@nanocash89 2 жыл бұрын
@@crutchfield i wanna take car audio lessons and get my license/permit/certificate for it
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! We don't have installers nationally but here's a great tool to find other install shops local to your zip: www.crutchfield.com/I-rFBKc384/LocalInstaller/InstallerSearch.aspx?installType=0
@jesusgavemeaids
@jesusgavemeaids 2 жыл бұрын
@@nanocash89 I just recently discovered that they have 2 stores. One in Charlottesville VA & one in Harrisonburg VA. I'm 2 hours from Harrisonburg & travel through there every month. I know that isn't the answer you were hoping for but it's exciting to me... I've been needing to upgrade my speakers for a few years now & it's hard decide what to do when you have never even heard some of them. I just wish I had known about that sooner...& also that they let in store customers make payments like online customers can because some of that stuff is expensive. But at least now I know what speakers I'm gonna get.
@mafosa8519
@mafosa8519 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like AB for the doors and D for the sub would be a good combo
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's a very popular combo! Do you have specific amps in mind for your system?
@QuintinLourens
@QuintinLourens 4 ай бұрын
When I bought my pa active mixer it was so light I couldn't understand. At first I thought it will be a POS and very under powered but I can't believe how much sound is generated by it. My previous amp was a A or AB and that thing was heavy. So because of the weight of my new active mixer I assume it's a class D
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 4 ай бұрын
Awesome! There are some amazing amp designs out there for sure. What do you use your portable system for most often?
@pupwizard3888
@pupwizard3888 5 ай бұрын
For home audio, I will never use a "Class D" amplifier again. They DO NOT sound as good as a vintage "Class AB" amplifier. I had no idea what I was missing until I went vintage and heard the difference. There is a reason McIntosh still uses "Class AB" still. The modern computer chip circuit board amps just can not compare.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 5 ай бұрын
For a warm, natural sound tone Class AB absolutely delivers.
@West3rror
@West3rror 6 ай бұрын
Mostly true and not bad explained. But you forgot an very important thing..: Class A gets more efficient the more you turn the volume up.. It's only at idle and low volumes they have really low efficiency. Class D are only "digital" in the sense that they have switch-mode power supply. And a tip: If that Rotel and speaker setup was yours.. Move that Atmos speaker where it is supposed to be.. High on the wall or in the roof.. Reflecting sound from the roof is not even close as good amd requires even more perfect room to even so it properly as intended.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 5 ай бұрын
Great points! We chose an overview approach to this video which definitely glosses over some finer details, especially a proper Atmos setup, which we just tried to give a visual sense of here. Makes us think maybe a deep dive on Atmos could be in our future.
@Siddharth_Matada
@Siddharth_Matada 4 ай бұрын
Hi sir, whether class AB amps drain car battery more quickly than compared to class D amps when we have stop the car for 1 or 2 week? Also whether we need to face car starting problem as battery gets older in case of class AB amps?
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 3 ай бұрын
Just so you wire the amp properly, it would come on with the vehicle so as not to drain the battery. You would not expect to have more or less battery issues using either amp class.
@selpingos
@selpingos Ай бұрын
There are many Chinese made Class D amps like aiyima and fosi audio. But what I keep hearing is that the have a lot of power but lack warmth. Is that true?
@crutchfield
@crutchfield Ай бұрын
The sound signature can vary from brand to brand and even model to model. To be fair, we would just be able to comment on models we carry and have experience with. Are you looking for a warmer sounding amp specifically?
@jaysonmartinez2830
@jaysonmartinez2830 8 ай бұрын
I love your explaining how A (25%), B (more efficient), & A/B (60%) are different from D...& how much more sound you get from a D (90%) But than saying that people "Don't need to worry about what class amp you get!" Is.......WRONG!!! If you're adding an amp to your home....the A, B, or A/B would be fine. But in Car Audio....a Class D is 100 times better!
@Treyk901
@Treyk901 4 ай бұрын
Idk, I still think AB sounds the best.
@domdecosa
@domdecosa 5 ай бұрын
The vast majority guitar amplifiers use Class A/B power amps, not Class A. If you see one advertised as “Class A” it’s almost always referring to the preamp, not the power amp.
@raymondchapman5990
@raymondchapman5990 Ай бұрын
So, an A/B amp is better for mids/highs than a D amp as far as sound quality ?
@crutchfield
@crutchfield Ай бұрын
Class D amplifiers have an excellent sound quality. A/B class amplifiers tend to have a warmer, more natural sound tone.
@conradmaceo
@conradmaceo 2 жыл бұрын
Starting to see a lot more class D 4-channel amplifiers, that’s actually what brought me to this video. I’ve always had class-AB for my 4-channel amps, and class D for my subs. So would class AB still have better sound quality than D for highs amp, just less efficient?
@TD1mkiddwest94
@TD1mkiddwest94 8 ай бұрын
I have American Bass Digital power amp that claim on the back to be a class D and its a mono amp so I lighten me on what in God's name do I have bc this mess ain't working and I need advice
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 8 ай бұрын
A lot of subwoofer amps are now using Class D amplification because of their increased efficiency which leads to creating less heat. The troubleshooting steps are the same for them as it is for other amp Classes. Also, a lot of amp owner's manuals will come with a troubleshooting guide to give ideas on what to check when the amp isn't working or working properly. Its always good to double check the connections, make sure all new wiring it connected to the proper places in the vehicle, and make sure there is no coating on the metal being used for the ground
@Cliff117
@Cliff117 4 ай бұрын
I have a Bose 1801 and need to get it repaired but all the good stereo repair shops have disappeared. What do I do? It weighs a ton!
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 4 ай бұрын
Cool amp! Your best bet will be to check with Bose directly at 800-367-4008 or support.bose.com/s/get-help-landing-page?language=en_US
@dlloyd6300
@dlloyd6300 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video Crutch!
@jeffreystroman2811
@jeffreystroman2811 2 жыл бұрын
I really wanted this to educational but unfortunately this guy doesn't really know the theory. He may be good at his job but a discussion about amplifier class without mention of 180° of input cycle, crossover distortion or thd is pedestrian at best.
@AntiDot70
@AntiDot70 2 жыл бұрын
Correction: none of the current amplifier designs are actually amplifiers at all. It's a common mistake to think that they take the original signal and make it stronger. They don't. What they do is use the original weak input signal to modulate, in one way or another, a much stronger DC current to recreate the original waveform from their own power source. Does it matter at the end how it's done under the hood, no, not really, but it should be mentioned that these devices, in reality, don't really amplify anything at all. They modulate.
@charlesmcguffy
@charlesmcguffy 4 ай бұрын
Another person that can't describe class A without saying it sounds warm, because they run hot.... sigh.
@Lannd84
@Lannd84 8 ай бұрын
I think you should care. After you filtered out if it can power your speakers or not, it would be good to know if you had a choice of for a D class.
@capezyo
@capezyo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tomas
@jonm7547
@jonm7547 2 жыл бұрын
The basic physics in this explanation seem to be very fuzzy … ‘Voltage transforms in heat’ !?
@bunnatang2081
@bunnatang2081 2 жыл бұрын
Intro: here are different types of Amp Classes: Body: You dont need to know about those classes. Ending: please subscribe.
@glichasasha750
@glichasasha750 4 ай бұрын
I like class A monoblocks
@Freedom89984
@Freedom89984 Жыл бұрын
This is very basic info guys. Didn’t hear any info about the output filter of a class D amp.
@turbomustang84
@turbomustang84 5 ай бұрын
Class G is my historic favorite but I have a fascination for class D at the moment
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 5 ай бұрын
Class D has gotten better and better.
@MiddletonDaisy-h7f
@MiddletonDaisy-h7f 18 күн бұрын
Heller Lakes
@LloydCoffey-x5h
@LloydCoffey-x5h 14 күн бұрын
Mann Wall
@johnnytheg
@johnnytheg 2 жыл бұрын
Why did the letter C get skipped over when defining the classes?
@procsico1599
@procsico1599 2 жыл бұрын
Class C it's not used for audio.
@catherineescol7852
@catherineescol7852 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed Correct Class C for RF signal Amplification
@tigerdefensesystems
@tigerdefensesystems 2 жыл бұрын
I thought a few old junk amps from Profile, Pyramid and Jensen some where class C?
@johndyson4109
@johndyson4109 4 ай бұрын
You didn't go over class H! Damn...
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 4 ай бұрын
We given them a mention in our article when discussing today's amps. Here is a link to that article: www.crutchfield.com/I-rYALc227/learn/which-amplifier-class-is-best.html
@raidenralph8883
@raidenralph8883 Ай бұрын
Which type power I use to play only my subs?
@crutchfield
@crutchfield Ай бұрын
The best amp will depend on your exact subs and setup. We're glad to recommend one for you. What brand and model sub do you want to power. How many do you plan to use? What type of pre-amp will you be using?
@tobityp2
@tobityp2 2 жыл бұрын
Input voltage to output power sounds so wrong ^^ But nevermind it should stay simple
@SSD99
@SSD99 2 жыл бұрын
The Alpine 3558 was a 4-channel, 40W/ch Class-A amplifier. Best guess, it drew 160W at idle.
@McCullochMac6
@McCullochMac6 8 ай бұрын
I own many proton amps 222, 250, d275...from late 80's early 90's I have never found a better sounding amplifier than these..in my opinion...
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 8 ай бұрын
Are you still using them in your current systems?
@HazelForschner-x5v
@HazelForschner-x5v 10 күн бұрын
Davis Estate
@jj66c
@jj66c 5 ай бұрын
Can you explain how the H class amplifier works? And why only Bob Carver uses it and no one else? Thanks.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 5 ай бұрын
The Class H is an AB variation that manipulates the amplifier's own power supply to get you more efficient power. While there have been several brands that did their own take on this design, it's not as popular as many other options due to the sophistication the monitoring and control requires.
@jj66c
@jj66c 5 ай бұрын
@@crutchfield Thanks for the explanation 👍
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 4 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@MichaelDespairs
@MichaelDespairs 6 күн бұрын
When I listen to music I want it to sound good I don't whip out a calculator and contemplate the amp's efficiency. People are so weird now. Class D is garbage for audio, it's only suitable for industrial motor speed controllers and welding. Please stick with Class A/B, It sounds way better with much less distortion. The industry has successfully fooled most people into buying this junk not because it sounds better but because of much higher profit margins because D is cheap junk to make.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 5 күн бұрын
What formats are you listening to most often these days?
@MichaelDespairs
@MichaelDespairs 5 күн бұрын
@@crutchfield 2" analog tape.
@MichaelDespairs
@MichaelDespairs 5 күн бұрын
@@crutchfield I've looked at the audio waveform coming out Mp3 compression both on computers and oscilloscopes and it looks fine. Audio out of Class D looks like it ran through a Marshall JCM800.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 5 күн бұрын
Nice! That is sure to sound great.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 5 күн бұрын
I am quite fond of my JCM800!🤣 But I agree, I would not want to play my tunes through it. AB is going to still be one of the most popular choices for sound quality with car and home audio amplifiers.
@DarkSim712
@DarkSim712 4 ай бұрын
The old-school MTX 1004 and 502 are class A car audio amplifiers. I have several of them and they sound amazing. I'm never letting them go. Even though I have to keep four computer fans on max speed at all times on my MTX 1004 just so it won't overheat. lol
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 4 ай бұрын
Nice! What are you powering with it?
@timothyfreeseha4056
@timothyfreeseha4056 2 жыл бұрын
Well done! Concise.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Timothy.
@brunoraffo6726
@brunoraffo6726 9 ай бұрын
Do you have a rule of thumb when pairing power amp with speakers ?(power wise). I'm bass player and found out that that question have a zillion answers...
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 9 ай бұрын
We always advise pairing an amplifier with power that does not exceed the RMS rating of the speakers you are using. Depending on your specific speakers and warranty, you may want to even use a little less power than the max RMS ratings. We are always here to help you dial-in exactly the right paired setup that would sound great and perform reliably!
@TareqASamra
@TareqASamra 2 жыл бұрын
My Asus RoG Phone 5S dac/headphone-out is advertised as a source as Class-G? How does this get defined? "ESS Sabre ES9280AC Pro with HyperStream II QUAD DAC technology and a built-in Class G ESS Sabre Headphone amplifier with up to 2Vrms output for headphones with higher impedance."
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 жыл бұрын
I have not been able to find information describing the build of their class G amp stage. If its it similar to other companies Class G, then its a combination of a Class A and AB amp. Class A for the first half of the volume scale when power is not too intense to cause heat issues. Then Class AB for the second half to help keep heat down when needing power.
@olvinyldude
@olvinyldude 4 ай бұрын
Have your NAD C375 BEE that you recommended several years ago, & enjoy so much, to this day ! ( Running Polk RTi-A9 speakers, Technics 1200GLD with Ortofon 2M Black cartridge... Keep up the great work Crutchfield ! ( Bought your Salamander Cherrie Wood Stereo Cabinet few years back, it is GREAT !
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for shopping with us and for your kind words! Sounds like you have picked up some top-notch components over the years. Are you listening mainly to vinyl these days?
@Ricardo-ge1yl
@Ricardo-ge1yl 4 ай бұрын
@@crutchfield Yes indeed ! We have 46,000 + Records, is all we listen to, when want music ! ( Besides, vinyl has best sound! Best, R.
@davidmaclennan5925
@davidmaclennan5925 5 ай бұрын
Very good breakdown and super simple yet informative explanation, from now on I will just send this link to my clients whenever they ask the question, I tend to tired rehashing the same answers, especially when they get that glazed look in their eyes like a Cheech and Chong movie 😊😂😳
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, I am happy you found the video useful and enjoyable! JR's videos are fantastic and us Advisors love them also😍🥰.
@sleelakrishnan
@sleelakrishnan 7 ай бұрын
Very useful content really appreciate it 🦅
@gouster4583
@gouster4583 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. im tryng to make diy 32 channel amplifier with per channel mono modules that would work independently and each of them will get separate audio input, audio output and 48VDC. Im looking for recommendation for Class D amplifier chip. It should accept 48VDC (single voltage without - 48V, just GND and plus). Possilbly shouldnt require very complex circuit around. Want most powerfull option (most possible RMS) with usable quality (for home use, doesnt need to be studio grade). Thanx.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reaching out. Sounds like a fun project! We do not carry amp chips. You may want to try an online parts store like parts-express.
@timtim4664
@timtim4664 8 ай бұрын
Sound Stream made a class A amplifier that was 1/4 ohm stable... it was rated at like 12 watts in audio comps but could power so many highs/mids. It's been 30 years since I last saw it.... so my facts may be wrong. I loved the Sound Stream Reference series.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 8 ай бұрын
They did have some Class A amps they rated down to 1/4 ohm! What is your go-to car amp brand these days?
@goofyrambo2173
@goofyrambo2173 Жыл бұрын
But I couldn't understand, I have 2 4 Ohm speakers, if I go out, what should I see when buying an amplifier?
@crutchfield
@crutchfield Жыл бұрын
Our ears can detect more changes in clarity from speakers than they can subwoofers. Class AB is typically the best for clarity these days and is the best class for you to seek out for your speakers.
@harishbabu4278
@harishbabu4278 2 жыл бұрын
I am in deep search of 3 way car audio. I own McIntosh class AB AMP and GE Tower 1 I own PSB B6 Bool Shelf amd Creek Class D As you know there is no comparison EOD Class D are are so so Class A & AB rocks many years to come
@angelmelendez9086
@angelmelendez9086 Жыл бұрын
If a A/B is never off will it kill battery?
@crutchfield
@crutchfield Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@felipechavez6672
@felipechavez6672 5 ай бұрын
For some kenwood peak power 700watt 6x9 what amp do you guys recommend? What Brand and how many watts ?
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 5 ай бұрын
We are happy to help recommend an amp. RMS watts are used to help match an amp to speakers. What is the RMS watt rating for the Kenwood speakers? If you do not have that information, we may be able to find it using the Kenwood model number.
@jasonwilke2703
@jasonwilke2703 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed both of the Sony MEX-XB120BT stereos we bought from crunch field don’t seem to have very good quality of sound they get loud but not an enjoyable loud probably the class D amp it says it has. Do most car stereos have these class D amps now because I really want to replace them with some thing that doesn’t and also the 10 band EQ is a pain to use.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 жыл бұрын
Receivers typically have a MOSFET amp. While this amp is not a class D amp, it is also not a class AB amp. Its like a hybrid amp that still focuses efficiency and would not be expected to sound any clearer than the amp in this Sony receiver. An external amp is needed to increase the clarity of the sound. We can recommend one that will. We need to know certain specs on the speakers. The watts RMS each can handle along with the ohms of each. If you do not have that handy and can supply the brand and model, we will check our amps for one that will give cleaner sound.
@jesusgavemeaids
@jesusgavemeaids 2 жыл бұрын
I travel through Harrisonburg VA every month & never knew there was a crutchfield store there until a couple weeks ago!!!! (Yes I know there's one in Charlottesville too.) That's awesome & I never even knew. FINALLY got to actually demo some of the speakers I've been looking into getting for the last few years but wasn't sure what to do since I had never heard those particular speakers!! Just too bad y'all don't let store customers make payments like online customers can. So I have to save up some money now....but at least now I know what I'm gonna get
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 жыл бұрын
Typically, the speakers sold in our retail stores are also offered online on our web site so you can get the financing. Which speakers are you interested in?
@talibe801
@talibe801 2 жыл бұрын
Good information,simple,not to tecnical and the way most people understand.
@akisxaniotakis6353
@akisxaniotakis6353 2 жыл бұрын
Inefficient or not i will never change my class A Signat amp in my car for anything else. Audio quality above all ! ! ! Great guide though.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JF-em6hr
@JF-em6hr 5 ай бұрын
It' be helpful if Crutchfield had Amp Class as a catagory on their Web Page.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 5 ай бұрын
For car audio the majority will be class D amplifiers. While we do not have a filter feature, the amp class for integrated amps and power amplifiers for home use is listed in the details tab on the product page.
@ssmith10pn
@ssmith10pn 4 ай бұрын
Class A not used in cars huh?
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 4 ай бұрын
There are some hybrid A/D models right now from Rockford Fosgate that are impressive. They use dynamic switching frequency control to combine the sound quality characteristics of Class-A with the efficiency of Class-D. This technology allows the amplifier to produce more power with less current draw from the vehicle charging system. Are you considering an amp for a specific setup?
@knowledgeOcean007
@knowledgeOcean007 Жыл бұрын
Mosconi AS 100.4 vs genesis series 3 which one you suggest mate? Waiting for your reply
@crutchfield
@crutchfield Жыл бұрын
Hi Suresh, these are not brands/models we carry. Would you like help choosing an amp we stock? If so, what is your exact setup?
@EmpireBosscali
@EmpireBosscali 7 ай бұрын
I bought jl amp class D for bass few years back ..hit so hard 😅😂 💪
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 7 ай бұрын
JL Audio gear absolutely hammers!🔨🔨How many subwoofers are you running in your setup?
@karrycrasto2010
@karrycrasto2010 4 ай бұрын
What about reliability? For me class d amps have been less reliable.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 4 ай бұрын
What were some of the issues with reliability? Since they are far more efficient and create less heat than other classes of amplifiers, class D tends to be extremely reliable.
@karrycrasto2010
@karrycrasto2010 4 ай бұрын
@@crutchfield I was using those TPA3110 based board, it didn't last long. Also a philps sound bar I had came with a class D chip, it didn't last long.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 4 ай бұрын
I am sorry to hear that you had a poor experience with your Phillips sound bar.
@andreidragos6546
@andreidragos6546 2 жыл бұрын
Distorsions,my friend!
@guerrerosaurio
@guerrerosaurio 11 күн бұрын
AB for car door speakers. D is for subwoofers.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 9 күн бұрын
If you stick with AB amps for your mids/hi's and D for your subwoofer, you are sure to have a great sounding system!👏🤘
@guerrerosaurio
@guerrerosaurio 7 күн бұрын
@@crutchfield Is better to have 2 seperate amps for a specific function each in my opinion.
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 7 күн бұрын
That's always a solid plan! 🙂
@emmaarcher
@emmaarcher 5 ай бұрын
fascinating & very informative keep up the channel
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words!!!
@wandiletembe
@wandiletembe 4 ай бұрын
Thanks. 🙏🏽🇿🇦
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 4 ай бұрын
You're welcome.
@soundknight
@soundknight 2 жыл бұрын
I can hear noise in class D amp circuits due to the low frequency square waves
@luism8612
@luism8612 Жыл бұрын
No you can’t literally end your life I bet you also claim you can hear losless music
@akeemjackman9582
@akeemjackman9582 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the best set up for a motorcycle. 2008 Hayabussa. I’m thinking 2x 6x9 speakers and then either subwoofer under the tail. What are your thoughts?
@crutchfield
@crutchfield 2 жыл бұрын
We don't have specific information on your motorcycle but we do know that space is limited on motorcycles more so that any other vehicle. Class D amps are typically smaller than the other amp classes and should help in this application.
@bryanguest2807
@bryanguest2807 Жыл бұрын
Bruh, get yourself a 7 channel atmos receiver and run the height channel on your mirrors
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