CS: Ep. 52 - Beth Moore, Christian Nationalism, American Exceptionalism, & Progressive Christianity

#christiannationalism #america #americanexceptionalism #bethmoore #progressivechristianity
Beth Moore, Christian Nationalism, Trumpism, American Exceptionalism, and Progressive Christianity. This week Cooper Stuff discusses Beth Moore’s December tweets and the various definitions of these philosophies; also how political progressivism can lead to theological progressivism.
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[@saxtonmaryann]

I’m here because of the Alisa Childers interview. 🙋🏻‍♀️

[@shawnahood3322]

Me too! 🙋🏼‍♀️

[@lynnvargas8938]

Me too!

[@hereforthecomments555]

Me four!

[@davidsonbrothersusa5627]

Me five

[@jenellel2019]

Ditto!

[@beverlyrichmond1961]

Bottom line: we need to make sure we're checking scripture for any message - Beth Moore included. We can't slack off because we think someone else has done their homework and we haven't.

[@christopherfinny]

Don’t listen to this man or any other man without checking them out in the word of God first.

[@jonathanvogt4341]

Thats part of the subtle brainwashing that has and is taking place in these churches and dare i say the church in America as a whole, we dont check, we dont test and we dont reprove the outright heresy and foolishness coming out of the mouths of these people. I have said and will continue to say that if the church as a whole actually used with regularity the God sanctioned teachings of Paul these would not be issues we would be discussing! And again its part of the subtle brainwashing that is taking place, knowingly being done no less.

[@countrybumpkin9896]

“Being progressive politically will eventually lead into being progressive theologically”. This is honestly so true. I used to think this was sort of a reach but as I have seen it happen with people more and more..it’s so evident. The reality is that politics is in our face…as much as we would all LIKE to hide from it, that’s just impossible right now

[@D1nk13]

Thank you for tackling this topic. As an immigrant I don’t quite understand all this chaos about American exceptionalism. It seems like every person on this planet agrees that America is exceptional except for a select group in America.. oh well.. And more astoundingly I don’t understand how anyone who carries the name of Christ can be deceived into buying what the left is selling..

[@leehitt4704]

Amen! I was saying the same thing to my prophetic mentor today!

[@terriperry6360]

I don't get it either.

[@itsokaytobeclownpilled5937]

What select group are you talking about? And, since you’re not American, you won’t understand us. Go back to your homeland.

[@D1nk13]

@@itsokaytobeclownpilled5937 lol.. You’re charming..

[@D1nk13]

Also, just a reminder.. None of us own anything.. For the brief period that God allows us breath in our lungs, he lets us be in certain places so He can accomplish His purpose.. ultimately my home is in heaven and that is all I fix my eyes on.. 😊

[@RyanColeEmpowerment]

What a delight to stumble upon this video. You’re saying what a lot of us common sense, reasonable evangelical Christians believe. You’re doing a great work.

[@DaveConnellGuitar]

Nice man! I listen to John a lot. His book is great!

[@theexecutivefarmer4327]

I’ve been so conflicted with my feeling about Beth Moore, as I have done her Bible Studies for many years and trusted her completely. So her recent tweets have left me confused and questioning myself because I felt that she is such a strong Christian who hears from the Lord, so who am I to disagree with her. I haven’t been able to explain it but you have articulated my feelings perfectly, and am so grateful. For a while, I just thought I was crazy, that perhaps I was imagining things, but your explanation and openness has helped me realized that perhaps I was putting too much faith in her instead of focusing on the Lord. Thank you and keep up the good work.

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

[@elgabenedicta]

I used to listen and read her books too a few years back, but the more I learn and study the Bible, I felt that a lot of her teachings aren't Biblical. She always so big in saying how she's talking to God/having conversation with the Almighty in a very casual way, I mean, I find it very odd and seem a bit 'holier than thou' to other people who don't seem to get to do that in a regular basis.. like we're lack of faith or something. Eventually, I stopped following her teachings entirely and that whole experience encourage me to read the Bible for myself and not rely too much only from other people's (teachers) secondhand understanding and interpretation of God's Word. The Holy Spirit is given to us to help us understand God's Word.

[@Airel17]

Watch who you follow unless you know where they’re leading you. You could end up somewhere you don’t want to be. Stick with Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost.

[@Airel17]

@@mitchellc4 so why did he say if you’ve seen him you’ve seen the father? If they’re not all one? What God are you following is my question?

[@Airel17]

@@elgabenedicta Amen 🙏🏼 to that follow Jesus Christ.

[@taky30]

I don't want to sound divisive here but as a person of color and I'm a Christian, I've noticed that white evangelicals are more into American exceptionalism and nationalism. That's just what I feel, many white pastors have set back over the years and not spoken on oppression while african american people sit in their congregations and say nothing. Let's keep it 100 how many lies were told with what Beth moore said people just don't want to admit it ! When we stand before God and he opens the lambs book of life there is not going to be a check off for what country we lived in but the deeds we did in this body. If we are all honest there are Christians that see Trump as an idol and are listening to all these prophets saying he is going to be President again when he's not. God is taking the covers off now and it's not going to be pretty !

[@Authorthings]

I agree!! The blinders will come off and it's gonna be ugly. Keep living for Christ and praying for the brethren.

[@andrewcramer9200]

The fact that Trump's pro-life, pro-Israel, pro-whatever-else is heavily influenced by proven false teachers like Paula White, John Hagee, Kenneth Copeland and others should give people pause. Their fruits are known, and they are not good, and saying God can still use them is slightly disingenuous. My instinct, which admittedly is worth very little, tells me God has used Trump to push the falling away. People look at Paula White speaking in tongues (gibberish) and think "That's Christianity? That's Donald Trump's personal pastor? No thanks." There was a lot at stake, and I think allowing Trump to be the face of the party and trying to convince people he is Christian has backfired. But it's still part of God's plan.

[@bethanyh1637]

@@andrewcramer9200 There is a lot of room between Orange Man Bad and Chetto Jesus Saves. The falling away is happening at both extremes.

[@nathankinman7753]

As much as I AGREE with your assessment, I feel I must point out that this disconnect going on in the body of Christ (regarding racism) is NOT an excuse to vote Democrat. Democrats have a reputation of mocking the church, and using our tax dollars to do so. They don't just "demand" abortion "remain legal," they also WORSHIP abortion and demand the taxpayers continue to fund it, even overseas. And they demand that Christian business owners cater to the LGBT community. This is why I vote Libertarian. Because even though most Libertarians are okay with abortion and same sex relationships (excluding myself), we also don't think the government should mandate how people think or operate, and we certainly don't demand taxpayers subsidize things some people have a moral objection to. And we call out racism where we see it.

[@Jessehermansonphotography]

Tough topic, excellent breakdown. One of my favorite pastors from Many years ago has slipped down this path, Trump Presidency has really exposed a lot of this. Sadly not many of these people, such as Lacrae or Beth Moore, or Jonathan Martin, will debate these topics. They will continue down their misguided paths.

[@Jessehermansonphotography]

@@nakeshabwala5222 if you can, please watch the American Gospel documentary. There is two of them, either is good. But basically there are some subtle and not so subtle teachings that these people share that do not actually align with scripture. My wife is actually who told me I needed to watch that movie and we needed up watching both, back to back. I found some areas of my own walk that actually had been influenced in a way that weren’t biblical.

[@Jessehermansonphotography]

@@nakeshabwala5222 She has been criticized by many on KZbin with citations and all. If you agreed with the documentaries you would see her as being very progressive, is you disagreed after watching them, you may see her as sound. I think those documentaries establish the line pretty well. But definitely keep digging and have a good week

[@PaulandMorgan]

Appreciate hearing your thoughts to these relevant topics, John. You break things down really well.

[@mostreal907]

It’s always good when we got people agreeing with my world views. Good stuff.

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

[@joshuamckeon7478]

Mitchell C Amen !!! Jesus is coming !!!!

[@MiaGarcia]

I love that Paul and Morgan are on board with what John is saying 😊

[@paularussell8587]

That was a good word. I love to hear young people stand up for the Word of God - the unchanging word. I believe my politics are formed from Biblical beliefs. I also think we as Christians are going to suffer for our beliefs, and may we be found faithful. Keep proclaiming truth, John.

[@kaycesmith7643]

I love how you said “Beth Moore-ism.” Such a great take!!!

[@debramichniewicz6384]

You know, you are absolutely correct. Her FOLLOWERS worship her, and hang on her every word. She wanted Hillary to win and I believe she despise s Donald Trump because he beat her.. I don't know if its discernment, But I can't watch her anymore.

[@guthrieclower43]

Put your total faith in Jesus, but don’t be oblivious to the world around you. What a great time to be alive and be a Christian! Lol

[@INFJschoolofdiscipleship]

Exactly! I don’t think a person should be ignorant but we should never put our faith in man or think we know what Gods will is. The worse things appear to get, the closer I get to God and I get more and more excited to see how he is going to work in this mess.

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

[@jordazmo19]

I feel like I'd be MUCH happier if i WAS oblivious to the world around me lol

[@barbs1298]

@@jordazmo19 Lol...I feel that way on most days too.

[@matty31272]

@@INFJschoolofdiscipleship I agree with your comment, so I'm just addressing the semantic issue of "knowing God's will." We only know what God's will is through His word. Outside of that we do not know. Too many claim they know God's will for "you" personally, and those people are liars and thieves.

[@theresamariemusic]

It is fairly ironic to call Christianity "whiteness", considering Jesus was from the middle east.

[@lbamusic]

to Anne Stansell...if Jesus was historically pictured as a dark Middle Easterner instead of a fair-skinned blue-eyed European, there would be far less 'whiteness' and far less whites claiming to be Christians.

[@propheticworship]

@@lbamusic not true sir, I've always pictured him as dark skinned, brown eyed semitic man and He's been my savior since I started following Him at 7 years old. I'm white, I'm blonde and no one in my family nor church ever portrayed Him as "white" but as our Jewish Savior and God. Please don't generalize.

[@mbwilson8592]

@@propheticworship yep. Me too. That comment is just more collectivism speech. I'm pasty white with red hair and I know darn well that Jesus looked nothing like I do. WHO CARES!?

[@sufficientgrace1692]

True, however not all Jews were/are dark. My grandfather (100% ethnic Hebrew) had pale skin, blonde hair and blue eyes. My grandmother (also 100% ethnic Hebrew) had red hair and pale skin.

[@lbamusic]

@@mbwilson8592 ..I said "far less" , I didn't say there would be none.

[@phillipschmidtpottery]

"anything that I deem unloving doesn't come from God." Yes, truly a scary thought. We're not standing on the Word of God, we're standing on our own whims.

[@elijahmontgomery4146]

It's true blasphemy. I use that word wholly expecting to be made fun of, but it is contradictory to the word of God to the point of being Satanic. Who else thought there ways higher than Gods? Lucifer did before he was cast down from Heaven. People need to stand on the word and guard their hearts.

[@ezassegai4793]

This man is a better teacher than our high nose theologians.

[@kellythomas3980]

I’m a 59 yr old Christian women (kid of hip according to my friends) and I really enjoyed your talk. I discovered you from the interview with Alisa Childers and I’m glad I did. Take care and God Bless you ! I encourage you to see if Beth would do an interview with you. I would like to hear that.

[@debraburton4594]

I'm 65 and you are one of my favorites! Love your passion and how you speak truth about God's ways! And how much you love your Mom! She had such an impact on you! Thanks for honoring her...and GOD!

[@janetlawson6158]

My husband and I have been talking about this for months..THANK YOU for putting it in such a way that makes what we have been talking about into clearer terms for us..Keep doing what you are doing..Love your channel and God bless us all in these crazy times..

[@Billie_Marie_]

Does anyone else seriously JAM to that intro? Just me? 😂

[@melodyfrederick7283]

Every time! 😂

[@howardmanley3388]

Billie FairyPrincess just you

[@petite.madame]

I do😂😂😂

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

[@carolineduff9511]

What is the song? I'm new here and I've never heard it.

[@l_ann9736]

So much discernment coming from him. It's rare these days and I appreciate it so so much. Thank you.

[@willyjohn6352]

Reminds me of Daniel and many others. Do whatever you want I will obey God no matter what you say and what you do.. This what we were made for.. We were born for this moment.. To honor God in everything we do and say.. There is nothing new under the sun.. But His mercies are new every morning..

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

[@zylemacruz8400]

Exactly amen amen! Now is the time to hold tight to the Bible and read and ask the Holy Spirit to guide our thinking and hearts. Paul said do not be confirmed to the patterns of this world!

[@christiangerhardt2408]

Dude I discovered you! Much love from South Africa! Your music rocks, but your theology rocks more.

[@ShootingArrows]

Fellow RSA!! Lekke my bra!!

[@christiangerhardt2408]

@@ShootingArrows lekker lekker! Waarvan daan dude?

[@ShootingArrows]

@@christiangerhardt2408 Vars uit Bloubergstrand... Been a Skillet fan for years. Hard to find rock bands that backs unfiltered Biblical Christianity... Waarvandaan skree jy? 😁

[@christiangerhardt2408]

@@ShootingArrows Muizies ou ek is net om die draai. Ek moet se ek laaik wat ek hoor van die ouens.

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

[@junelune2344]

What Beth Moore is saying applies to her she is not the final authority on the subject.she has always been a never Trumper. I don't condone violence, i don't support groups but I vote I'm a Christian first . And if the church collectively voted for what we hold as truth maybe one women would have not been able to take prayer out of our schools. It our right to vote she needs to vote for whoever she feels is right for her and let other choose who the feel is right.

[@phillipschmidtpottery]

That last sentence you said sounds exactly like the times of the judges in the Bible, where every person did as they saw fit. Judges 21:25 and context.

[@kennaymon123]

I've been to Africa multiple times and every time I've been there, the Gospel that I've seen manifest itself there from the US is pretty twisted. For the most part I've perceived that we do that stuff for the poor countries to feel good about ourselves then drop prosperity gospel on them.

[@ravissary79]

Whoah... missionaries dropping prosperity gospel? Who? I was a missionary for 3 years that worked with an interdenominational organization that partnered with all kinds of groups in the third world, and NONE if them taught a prosperity gospel. The usa prosperity gospel works because of the weird relationship between televangelists, elderly shut ins, and expendable income. This allows Jim Bakers and Benny Hins to exist. But an American can't have a successful ministry rooted in telling people in the third world to give them money and they'll get rich too. That's crazy. I'm not saying you're making things up, but can you clarify? What denomination or church was doing this? If you're talking about a few bug names that's not indicative of American missions as a whole.

[@kennaymon123]

Sure, I'll clarify. Visited a lot of churches when I was out there. Curious about how they did things. Also a few "parachurch" organizations if that's your preferred noun. All in all, I give it about 90% prosperity. When I spoke with the parachurch guys, they explained that it was because earlier on there was a lot of influence back from when Kenneth Hagen was big (and alive) mixed with pre-existing animism. So these sects of christianity are sending as well. It seems like you have me saying all missionaries are bad. By no means, but prosperity won in Saharan Africa at least for the next few decades

[@ravissary79]

@@kennaymon123 interesting. Can you name-drop the Parachurch group leading saharan African guys in prosperity gospel? Or are you saying that when the ministries evolved into local self driving groups they went prosperity? (ie: not the Parachurch organization driving it),if so then I see what you mean, because one of the biggest televangelists IS African nowadays. Never seen him before this year, ended up on my feed. And before him there's been others too. But these guys don't reflect the larger ideology of evangelical American missiology. It's a local heresy that is emulating an American cultural entertainment based aberation from core orthodox American Christianity.

[@gratefulderrick]

I live in Africa tobe specific: Uganda, I don't know how other African countries do it (not good to generalize the whole continent), However here we have a variety of Christian organisations just like in the USA, however to a greater extent people here are very very spiritual even in our Christianity. We know what a sacrifice is and more so WHO Christ is in that regards of Sacrifice, we witness the redemptive power of God through Christ and curses, spells, all forms of demons and brought down to acknowledge Christ as Lord ans savior there by freeing many souls. We understand what true spiritual freedom is. Most of our Congregations are financially constrained, although its constraining, it wont stop and street preachers to every day come to the streets. It wont stop the university church from Preaching Christ. Yes, we need finances in Church and sometimes we have fundraising drives, just like in the USA. Putting up a building, a community center, providing meals, and other amenities to the needy comes with a financial responsibility. Oh not to mention taking care of our ministers who unlike the USA are not salaried. Oh we also have fake Churches, where people have to trade prayers for money they do exists just like that side... Oh, there are those ministries here who also are eaten by vices like homosexuality, etc, however its tabboo to voice those views on our cultures, although we knew they are there too. @ravissary79 is speaking truth, try to be more specific bro. Otherwise many blessing, oh encourage other to visit our nations, there's alot of pick from the Christianity communities here also there's alot of good you can pass on down hear especially as a solid Christian. Its always good to come visit, and participate sharing the biblical truths. Good bless. DJK

[@RKLuSir]

These are the types of conversations our small groups should be having. #RealConvos #PassitOn

[@jaime990]

Fantastic! Well done, so glad I found you for some smart, logical thinking. Never, never could get into Beth Moore, not my cup of tea. Keep talking and bringing that sanity to the conversation!!

[@nicolejamerson4266]

I feel the same John. People get mad for me be political but I understand what's going on is coming against what I believe as a Christian. Thanks for sharing truth!

[@Sarah-tu4bu]

I am here because the film “American gospel: Christ crucified” led me to alisa childers, which led me to you. I grew up in my tween and teen years listening to you and flyleaf and ivoryline etc on power fm radio and it was a lifeline to me as my roots began to settle in Jesus Christ. as an adult I’ve rediscovered you and I’m so very thankful. My roots have only deepened in my love for Jesus Christ and the precious word of God even as the world, and the church in America has “deconstructed” or become nationalized(or patriotized? Whatever you want to call it?) or become new age/progressive. I could write more but I’ll stop there and just saying I am praying for the Church, here in America and Canada, and in the whole world. I am praying for us to lift up the beautiful name of Christ and the Word of God above all other loves so that the world may know Him. Edit, Just to clarify: i agree that I love American too. I would proudly hang an American flag in my front yard. If I wasn’t in Canada lol. I love Canada too. But the kingdom of God is so much bigger than love of country. Thanks for your breakdown of definitions that are flying around right now

[@ChrisHolman]

Too many Christians have made Trump a savior, that is idolatry. We have one savior, Jesus Christ. Christian Nationalism, based on the definitions being; "Christian" or follower of Christ, and "Nationalist" one with patriotism and loyalty to their country which is morally neutral, is not in anyway a bad or evil thing. The problem comes when the Christian has more love and loyalty to their nation than to God. God should be the first of our love, even over our own family. Whatever is the first of one's love is their God, be it money politics or anything else. As a Christian we should be devoted fully to God, to love Him with all that we are. One who loves God 1st and loves their nation 2nd is neither a danger to anyone else nor living an unChristian life. Progressive Christianity is a horrendous modern heresy and a cancer in the American Church.

[@sufiaherbst3273]

I just wanna say that I dig you man! I won’t say you’ve saved my life- but honestly hearing you talk about how we don’t argue about which truth anymore but whether there even is a truth really did save my sanity. Especially at the beginning of this pandemic, George Floyd, BLM etc... you have a gift of discernment coupled with the skills to explain it all clearly! God bless you for speaking up. I hope I can be brave for Jesus like you are!

[@HeReigns4ever]

Amen Brother! I agree and I believe true Christian Christ followers that don’t bow to mans approval, but Gods’ alone will suffer persecution. We will stand on His Word alone and He will be the lifter of our heads. Thanks for speaking up this matter. ♥️

[@bbnoblebright]

I appreciate your thoughts, John! I think we are now seeing the fruits of decades of massively failing to educate our children and to them how to think. The inability to distinguish between ideas and hold nuanced discourse is leading to the masses, both Christian and secular, to conflate nearly every idea into "us vs. them"; and I'm willing to bet most people can't even define what constitutes "us" or "them". It's like we're in a collective mental fog and are being led helplessly by the media and demagogues on social media. To comment on what you said about the negative connotations of "thinking your country is the best," we could perhaps draw a parallel with our spouses or immediate family. When I say they are "the best", what I'm really saying is "I love them, they are most familiar to me, and I could not imagine trading them for anyone else." My love of my family does not preclude other families from being wonderful and even better objectively than mine is in certain ways. I stumbled across your channel today and just wanted to tell you that I became a Christian (non-denominational) about 10 years ago, and your ministry through music was instrumental (no pun intended) in waking me from my aimless, youthful stupor. I have since become a Catholic, and have much love for my Protestant brothers and sisters. Just wanted to let you know that your work makes a difference! Also, do you ever age? You look exactly the same as I remember you back in 2010 (I saw Skillet in concert at Summerfest in Milwaukee).

[@DanielApologetics]

Great interview also on Alicia Childers' channel the other day, John!

[@OTGGamerz3264]

The confusion is here because without belief on Christ and the whole council of his word, the world is blind. Believing is seeing. People have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof. That's why they only pray as a last resort instead of casting all their cares on him as he commands.

[@josiahfitch4173]

I’ll agree that our founding fathers and important figures throughout our rich history in this country has been strong on the position of freedom and democracy. I’ll push back a little; it is important to recognize the wars and anti democratic movements in our country as well. Some example: wars that were imperialist (the Spanish-American war or the Philippines-American war), the intelligence agency’s spying on the public, or the lock downs that have been happening recently. having said that, I do think that the IDEA of America is a good thing. And we need to become more free, not less. more importantly our country need to look to Christ and fall and humble ourselves. A lot of people on either side of political spectrum have been feeding their pride. Whether that by the idols of Christian nationalism or the pride of “wokeness”. We need a whole lot of Jesus! That is and will continue to be our only saving grace.

[@matty31272]

I generally agree with your comment, so I'm just addressing the semantic issue of "democracy". Our founding fathers wrote extensively against democracy. Our modern use of the word democracy is not what democracy is. Democracy means every individual has an equal voice and force toward the direction of the nation. They (founding fathers) referred to it as "mob rule" and "mobocracy". They were Republicans (long before the was a Republican party.) in the literal sense. We are a Constitutional Republic and under the rule of law. Democracy is opposed to being a Constitutional Republic because it is static and not able to be changed by the whims of the largest crowd or group. The Constitution protects everyone, including the largest minority - which is the individual. It is also Law that all are under. In the case of the United States , it is a law that provides for liberty and rights more than any other nation in history. The lack of godly (God fearing) people in numbers effective enough to give direction and influence the direction of our country is part of the reason we've become a lawless nation. A worldview that destroys the "image" of God in all people and perverts the history of mankind and the Earth has destroyed ★purpose, ★value, ★hope, ★and †Jesus† (who is the reason for hope) in public awareness and individuals thoughts. This is the legacy of atheism and has led to a majority of people being taught lies about who they are, our biology, natural and social history, economics, philosophy, English, mathematics, general science and the sciences, even art (!), and so on. Lastly, a democracy would provide, through the mechanism of law, a way (a possibility) to codify every one of these issues into law - making it mandatory to learn a worldview based solely on lies. Sadly, grievously, our leaders don't enforce laws or protect our rights. Our citizens do not respect the law or our rights. If they did, we would not be in this mess. I know this is long, and understand you may not read it for that reason. God's love and hope to you! 🙂

[@koroRyu]

I love ur music man it helped me with a lot of stuff that has happened in my life every time I felt like I was falling away from Christ I would listen to your music and pray

[@barbaralawrence8260]

I don’t know why you showed up in my feed but I’m very thankful that you did. I really don’t think anything is by chance so I thank the Lord Jesus Christ that we crossed paths. You seem to have a wonderful outlook.

[@edderry9414]

I’m finding most Christian parents I have come across who have kids in college are being influenced by their children and are moving towards this Christian relativism which is so dangerous. Beth Moore might have that issue.

[@bethcoddington2150]

Wow John. I left a church for the very reasons you mention. I know 2 of my 3 sisters attend a progressive church and I see it in their support for this administration. They only listen to the MSM and that is all they trust. I have seen Beth Moore numerous times in past years. I haven't heard her speak recently, but I've never heard any politics in her seminars. I want to check that out. I had a friend once tell me that she thought God understood that these are different times, implying he would change with them. I looked at her and asked her if she could back that up with scripture. Needless to say, she could not. The Bible is very clear about the signs of these times. We need to pray for ALL leaders, from the top down. The world needs the TRUTH now more than ever. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@tl2494]

WHY didn’t you just check with Beth Moore on what Beth Moore meant????

[@bayce3]

Now THAT...is what should happen. If there is an issue, got to your brother/sister FIRST and get that perspective BEFORE putting them out on front street when you may not have a full understanding of their position... a lot of this sounds a lot like speculation and verbal gymnastics...TALK TO HER AND GET HER PERSPECTIVE then make a video/podcast after that step is completed. He says repeatedly, “I don’t want to put words in her mouth, but....” and then proceeds to present his understanding of it....not cool & not biblical in how this should be handled. Should have talked to her first.

[@scurvypuppy]

Much respect for you! I love your boldness. We pray for you and your family often.

[@amyb4059]

This is the first video I’ve watched that you’ve done. Intelligent, great insight, and thorough explanations. I especially like that you seem to understand the flip side of the issues and can effectively defend your perspective as a Christian. I expect that we’ll all be facing some challenging situations and we need to understand what it means to put on the armor of God. I greatly appreciate you and others who speak out to encourage people to be steadfast in faith and demonstrate the love of Christ in every circumstance. Thanks!

[@debbievernon6901]

wow God bless you. thank you for sharing these things. eye opener for me.

[@RobertBatina]

You don’t care who it was? Speaking out against the violence is great, it’s what anyone should do, but for someone that wants to live in the truth - you SHOULD care who the people were that were doing the damage. Especially when you tend to hold one “side” up above another... learning and acknowledging who it is, especially if it’s from someone on your own side... it’s important. I can tell that you’re trying... that you understand that what you said and the way you said it really upset a bunch of people. Not just people on the right who wanted you to believe that Antifa was somehow embedded in the crowd of “conservatives” and caused all the trouble... but I can tell that you heard those of us that aren’t appreciating the way you were painting the left with one broad brush recently. Because you’re very quick to say “Hey, just because you’re a conservative it’s not fair for people to say you automatically supported the violence” (or something like that) Well, there’s plenty things that “the left” or liberals get accused of as a whole, and that’s not the case with them either. And it definitely bothers you when folks do it to your side, so you can’t be far from understanding how folks can feel the same on the other side. You’ve gotta be careful with the word Trumpism... because of all the words that have a fluid definition, a meaning that is different for each person that says it, this one would be the winner... so I’m not sure that assuming that she’s calling everyone involved “racists” is the right way to go... you said you don’t want to put words in her mouth, but that’s exactly what you were doing when you said that. One could also say that you might be feeling attacked because you do have some reservations about supporting Trump or his people and policies... I’m just struggling to figure out what these particular tweets struck such a nerve in you, when you even say in this video that what she said is fine if she meant it like it sounds in the tweets, not considering her other statements. I’m gonna try to quit picking ... I just hope you understand that people like me, who may still be wtf’ing you, it’s because of things a couple podcasts ago that was still bad enough to a lot of us that we’re still irritated. Thinking that there were things wrong with some of the components of the founding of our country... things that needed to be changed, things that WERE changed... that’s a “progressive” political viewpoint? What’s so wrong with acknowledging that there were mistakes made, and not everyone feels that America was formed in a way that was looking out for them? I think your problem is that again you’re lumping everyone together in groups again. “If white people stole power from black people.” etc ... very few people think or say that ALL whites people gain power at the cost of black people, but there’s no doubt that until relatively recently in the history of our country, it’s absolutely true that SOME white people prospered at the expense of black people... and there’s nothing wrong with saying that and it certainly doesn’t make one a progressive. You call it a fail safe and say that she doesn’t mean what she said ... good grief. She’s saying that too many people have turned to hero worship when it comes to Trump, nor should people hero worship Biden. You even just said you agree with what she says if she just means what she says. You’re upset about how you’re interpreting her tweets, not by the content of what she ACTUALLY said. 🤦🏻‍♂️ “There’s an incredible danger in the revolution of the left.” 🤦🏻‍♂️ yes, the left, they’re all monsters ... thanks for emphasizing that for everyone. Why do you think having a President of a different party is going to dictate how people act? Do you think that people living in Christ’s ways will suddenly stop doing that now? People will act how they act based on who they are and what happens in their lives, not because “now we can be awful, guys... we’ve got a Democrat President... nothing can stop us now!!” 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ NOT EVERYONE ON THE LEFT SUPPORTS ABORTION, since I can tell that’s one of your biggest concerns, understandably. But there are people on the left who support and do horrible things, just as there are people on the right who support and do horrible things. Do you not realize that you’re coming across like you don’t believe that anyone on the left could hate abortion as much as you? Do you think not a single republican has ever gotten an abortion? Hopefully one of these days you’ll get back to good versus evil instead of “good versus the left” 😒😞

[@RobertBatina]

And looking at the comments here... I find it hard to believe that people could be dissuaded from hero worship of their President when there is so much hero worship here of John. I get it, we love Skillet, but John’s words and opinions are not above scrutiny, and I think he actually appreciates hearing from fans even when we don’t just kiss butt and totally agree.

[@Authorthings]

Well said

[@bayce3]

Excellent! What you have written is truth. There is a slant that he doesn’t seem to want to let go of. My question is WHY did he not talk DIRECTLY with/to Beth Moore and get her perspective instead of all this speculation? He repeatedly states that “ I don’t want to put words in her mouth, but.....” then gives his own interpretation anyway! Unreal! The word tells us that if we have ought against our brother (sister) got to him/her alone and get that straight leaving your sacrifice at the altar till you do so. He wouldn’t have had to “put words in her mouth” had he made an effort to have a conversation with her first....smh.....amazing.

[@RonaldDPotts]

Your sanity and Biblical grounding, coupled with your profile (especially in the metal community, for me personally) is greatly appreciated John. God bless you 🙏

[@ghostredneck]

Refreshing to See the younger generation speaking such wisdom! Well Said and God Bless you!

[@jasonspencer8558]

He's 45 years old.

[@mnfarmgirl55]

Your channel is the best thing on KZbin. Thank you for speaking truth and not being ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

[@joshuamckeon7478]

Cooper Stuff the best way to start off Monday !!!!!!

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

[@terrestrialtruther4607]

I saw John for the first time at Soneshinefestival with Ken and Trey and was my first taste of Christ based music. It was a transformational experience, now I can't wait til we can get out there again and be free!

[@innovati]

Let me be a slave of slaves for the King of Kings

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

[@Mamalikesthebassdrop]

Nothing else but my God.

[@ProphetPriestPoet]

God bless you, brother. You are spot on. Keep fighting the good fight.

[@faithdaniels9314]

John, I’ve been a fan for along time....... even more now! Thank you for speaking truth!

[@nasonyarowell2277]

Well said John. I have always respected your passion for Jesus and truth. Thank you for your courage speaking up when many are lost or scared. The ones who are speaking up are lost and supporting the left, which is represents everything the Bible says is sin. I've watched you since 2002, and have enjoyed worshipping and rocking out with you and your wife. I'm grateful.🙏

[@hawhee]

God created an exceptional man in John Cooper: singer, songwriter, evangelist, performer, religious thinker, Christian apologist, political commentator, lover of the Bible, and so much more. May God keep him strong in the faith, and may he never fall!

[@dantuck6028]

It's rare and refreshing to hear an nuanced approach to these issues. Many people do want to avoid politics, but it's an ugly beast that has to be confronted. It's here, it's everywhere. We can't ignore it. That you've taken this time to understand the issues of our day in light of the Gospel is highly refreshing. And quite frankly, it gives me a new enjoyment of our music as well. Keep doing what you're doing Cooper.

[@jacobneal24]

kept waiting in the opening for when you said "it's unfair to say if you're conservative you support the violence," to also say "much like it's unfair to say if you're liberal you support abortion" but you didn't... continuing to listen but I've already got my guard up

[@lesleyh7626]

Same. And I want to hear more about the death penalty, not just abortion. Both are evil.

[@willowwillow1969]

I used to attend a church that hosted one of Beth Moore's conferences. I spent an entire day listening to her, I even tried to take notes. She talks so fast, that it is difficult to digest. I honestly don't remember anything I "learned" that day. I only remember the frustration of trying to follow what she was talking about. You are right about her use of fanciful language.

[@stadler72]

Smart, articulate, AND he rocks? Not fair.

[@55k3v1n]

It takes a lot of balanced thinking to arrive at a place that isn't extreme one way or the other. Great stuff Cooper!

[@almcroberts8366]

I don't like the way things went down but I feel something needed to be don't to grab their attention and say we've had enough of the lies. I know GOD is in control and know that his Will will be done no matter what happens. Love the show John keep up the awesome work you're doing here, GOD speed and GOD Bless you brother.

[@bayce3]

Yet..........they went there based on a lie............

[@taylorrobinson9354]

Hey John - been listening since the mid-90's, just subscribed. Love that you are doing this and shining God's light and reason into this postmodern ether. Keep on, brother.

[@gangstastyle8882]

Politics are important because it affects our Christian lives

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

[@swellgal1980]

Thank you for speaking truth that is unpopular but necessary to edify the body!! Love it! And i stand with truth!

[@djr113]

"all about Jesus, all about the Gospel" amen big dog

[@jennalusby9800]

AMAZING. I'm weeping with joy for your voice. Every sentence full of logic and truth.

[@michaellee9121]

Actually if YOU walk in the HOLY SPIRIT not in the flesh 🙏 The world will fall away people!!! CHRIST is the only TEACHER you need!!!

[@Heseesyou]

HALLELUJAH.. YES YES THANK YOU FATHER FOR BRINGING THE DARK TO THE LIGHT!

[@mattguy5977]

Keep going John. You're encouraging people to do the right thing. I'll keep listening.

[@kvizz9067]

Just found your episodes. I love it. Our boys are in their twenties. I'm going to have to send this to them because they love them some Skillet so I'm sure they'll be really interested in hearing what you have to say.

[@PBuffdaddy00]

John, I have been a fan and respected you for many years because of your unwavering love for Christ and spreading the Gospel. When I listened to your interview with Alisa Childers, I immediately had to find this podcast to subscribe to the channel. You said several times in the interview that you're not the smartest dude, but listen, man, you are speaking the truth in what you're talking about on that podcast and in this discussion. You get it, and I love that you're putting this out there so that others can understand what the situation is. God bless you, brother. I hope I get to meet you someday. I want to shake your hand and thank you for being a warrior for the faith. Love you, man!

[@Nate196501]

Let's not just talk. Talk rarely moves the whole world and that's what we need to do at this time in our lives! Let's figure out an answer, a project, something we all can add value to spread out Christ's love as he commanded. #NoFearHere

[@itsokaytobeclownpilled5937]

Talk actually does move the whole world. That’s why we have the fake news media.

[@ayemdismantld]

As a fisher of men, one knows when a storm is brooding, a fisherman of experience prepares for it and knows how to sail through it. Jesus is in my boat. I love the quiet with him. He is the one that will quiet the waters, when He sees that it produces what He sets out to do. The more people bash, the more I go sailing with Jesus. Live for Jesus in 2021! Love it brother

[@jeffreyahrndt9619]

Very interesting points of view. However, I would be curious to hear whether you would have supported the violent rebellion during the early days of the American Revolution, or if you would have called for appeasement to Britain.

[@TheHeggert]

Jeffrey...I've always been a huge fan of our founding fathers and the Patriots in the revolution. Taught the revolution to 4th graders for years. But I've been thinking so much about this in recent weeks. When is it appropriate to stand up (violently if necessary) as a Christian? Were our founding fathers, most of whom claimed Christ, way out of His will? Stuff to think about... Although I have none of the same questions regarding the Civil War. A fight to free a people group from oppression and murder. A full-throated yes! But is that just my own thinking or is it Biblical?

[@utamu777]

Great question

[@egoedel3698]

I struggle with this question also! In searching the Bible for answers, I've only become more confused. Old testament shows God giving orders to the Jewish people in how to fight and win their wars and protecting personal property ("if a thief is found breaking in and is struck so that he dies, there shall be no blood guiltfor him."), yet the new testament expresses more of a "give unto Caesar what is Caesar's," "love your master," "never avenge yourselves," mentality/sentiment. Would love to hear other people's thoughts and biblical learnings.

[@bethanyh1637]

Prior to and even at the start of the Revolutionary War, support for war was extremely low. Its not surprising or inconsistent that people rejected violence during peace but choose to fight when war comes to them.

[@TheHeggert]

@@bethanyh1637 no, you're right, but there were still those fomenting it and calling for it as God's will and it eventually did come to violence for the average God-fearing colonist. In my thinking, if I can justify war for ending slavery or keeping Europe from being overrun by a bloodthirsty Nazi regime, where are we today towards the end being a "Just War"? Is abortion so vile in God's sight we are called to end it even if it means war? I'd prefer an amicable divorce, to be honest. Secession, please!

[@Renwa82]

I've been listening to your music since '99. Thank you for all you have done to sow into the Kingdom. Glad to see you branching out from music. I just discovered your KZbin channel and it's awesome.

[@kimbers1238]

I'm 15 minutes in and still haven't heard anything that shows me there is a problem with beth moores teaching

[@sunnyson2503]

What I do know. God doesn't change, the Bible doesn't change no matter how people try and make it change.

[@utamu777]

Most of the commenters just say they think Beth espouses progressive Christianity but don't explain why.

[@andrewcramer9200]

the-end-time.org/2020/06/23/has-beth-moore-only-recently-drifted-or-has-she-always-been-false/ This is pretty thorough.

[@2jesusIbelong]

@@andrewcramer9200 Christians actually think God stopped speaking to us? Why would he do that? That's interesting. The other things on the list just don't seem that serious to warent calling her a false teacher. Every Denomination thinks the things they specifically Beleive is the truth and everything else is wrong. The truth Is no one knows for sure and most likely every group has a handful things correct and a handful of things wrong. What saves us is Beleiveing in Jesus that he died for us and rose again and is coming back. That we love God and others. That's it. The main things that save you. All the other things are important but not what save you. And most likely we all have some wrong beliefs. I don't really follow her but from what I see so far I wouldn't go so far as calling her a false teacher. Definitely has some things I don't agree with but I'd consider those smaller issues compared to the greatest commandments- does she love God and love others.?

[@andrewcramer9200]

@@2jesusIbelong yes, Hebrews literally starts with "God has spoken to us through His Son Jesus Christ". Has spoken, past tense.

[@AE-dy5pt]

Thank you. So thankful to have watched this.

[@YeshuaHaMaschiah]

GOD is above all politics, He raised up kings and casted them down. Its ok to speak about politics if GOD brings up politics, especially where children being slaughter is concerned. (also read the Book of Esther)

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

[@YeshuaHaMaschiah]

@@mitchellc4 JESUS CHRIST IS GOD. The Father said so HIMSELF. The FATHER, SON, and HOLY SPIRIT are ONE GOD (The ETERNAL GODHEAD) Read 1 JOHN 5:20

[@luiz_fleite]

Thank you very much for exposing your opinion as christian about all these ideological things. Its a psychological and spiritual war, even people inside the churche try to make you fell like you're crazy and believing in conspiracy theories. Thanks for proving we're not insane, I hope you will never give up proclaiming God's word.

[@TheMeJustMe75]

My faith has lead me to start really looking at what is going on in our country. We have a political party that does nothing in times of trouble and another party that stops at nothing to win. I feel as a person of faith that it is our responsibility to talk to our state representatives as our federal representatives. What is going on in our country comes down to spiritual warfare. I have people that I go to church with that won't even acknowledge me, just because I shared a different opinion. They will attack me on social media at every opportunity. I have forgiven them but it is sad that they can't see past their politics. I wish people would realize that the division isn't really between neighbors but in Washington. It's the media that has convinced people that they have to hate their neighbor. This type of thing isn't from the Lord.

[@nathankinman7753]

Your entire comment describes why I am a Libertarian and vote for Libertarian candidates. This "lesser of two evils" notion has bread the tribalism which is evident in this "red vs. blue" nonsense, and the narcissism which you made mention of in your post. Some people at my church take issue with me thinking a lot of cops are racist, and that the drug war should end. And then they accuse me of violating "Romans 13."

[@SMsmSM12343]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Praise GOD! God is moving, you guys.. More Christians are opening their eyes and putting on the armor of God and getting prepared for this. God is giving us the honor to be the generations to defend His Word and His Church. Wow.

[@duncescotus2342]

"The government shall be upon His shoulders."

[@YeshuaHaMaschiah]

Amen. JESUS, The Hope of ALL Nations.

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

[@Charles.Wright]

@Brad Nadeau - sounds just as good in a modern literal translation

[@homemademusic7]

I’m so glad I found this! God has been working overtime in my life! Overcame addiction, getting better at repentance, and learning to walk in His will!...not mine. 1 John 4:4 Greater is He that is in you than he of this world!” I just subscribed and look forward to hearing more of your videos. This is in no way making a comparison here...but I’ve been a struggling musician for yrs and I know why I’m struggling...I haven’t been writing music for Him because I’m afraid of the persecution...it’s cowardly of me. Matthew 10:43...whoever deny’s Me before men, I will deny them before my Father. I know this isn’t on topic necessarily and more of a personal issue, but wanted to Thankyou. Plz pray for me, and you’re in my prayers John. One last thing....I’ve never seen Skillet Live, but I did see Ledger play at Winter Jam in Kcmo 2018. The day before Winter Jam I was living in a sober living home in North KC. The guys and I sat around the table for our nightly meeting, and I expressed how my faith was slipping and I felt it...I was concerned. The next day, a new member joined our sober living home...Nate Tait. As I got to know Nate and welcome him into the home, he told me his brother was in a band and playing a concert that night here in KC...acted like no big deal. Long story Short, his brother is Michael Tait from the News Boys! The next night we were backstage at Winter Jam! My faith was slipping, and I cried out to God!!! The next night I was walking out of a concert buzzing more than any substance could possibly make me feel! I can’t stress that last part enough to anyone who struggles with addiction! I don’t struggle with it these days, by the Grace of God! My one last thing was a lot lol...my apologies...had to share that. Thanks again.

[@fartknockingsquad5291]

Aye my favorite person made a new podcast! Your awesome John and even though you deny it you are a smart person and full of wisdom. Also love Skillet and cant wait for things to open again (specially concerts ✊)

[@DavidLaRosafieldofpotential]

Hey John! I just found out about you channel and couldn’t be more excited to see you addressing these critical issues. You’re a much needed voice for this generation.

[@kitskitt5412]

For people who are trying to blame another group: it only takes one person, at the right time, in a group of emotional people to incite a mob. And when you're with a large group of people you're more likely to just go along with the crowd. although there were some far right people there who have had a history of causing problems, like Baked Alaska.

[@itsokaytobeclownpilled5937]

Baked Alaska isn’t far right. He’s just an attention whore.

[@lazaropolanco8486]

Many blessings my brother. You're so right, like 1 John 2.19 said "they came from out of us, but they were not of us". God will reveal the true believers now. Much love brother.

[@johngraham1274]

I see your heart, brother. Good job - just remember, God isn't the author of confusion!

[@righteousnessofGodinChrist555]

💖💖💖John will you please say prayers in some of your vlogs..thank you...... Yes...JESUS CHRIST IS OUR LORD TO THE GLORY OF GOD LET'S PRAISE HIM IN ALL THINGS FOR HE IS WORTHY OF ALL PRAISE!!🙌🙌💖💖

[@matthews95_]

I just realized this is the guy from skillet

[@fibroartist4273]

Good stuff Cooper Stuff thanks so much!

[@samanthaivanic8935]

Beth Moore has no discernment

[@jasonsmith649]

I thought it was just me that thought that.

[@mariosangermano5709]

@@jasonsmith649 Add me. She has no discernment skills among other questionable beliefs and practices. Most of the evangelical church has no ability to discern, as many in the church support this false teacher.

[@jasonsmith649]

Oh there are a lot of false teachers here in America. It’s just sad that people follow them.

[@hesavedawretchlikeme6902]

Amen to all of you. Most of the believers are too caught up in popular Christianity and not Jesus and His Word. Spiritual midgets.

[@TGuard00014]

@@hesavedawretchlikeme6902 This is why I enjoy Christian comment sections so much. It’s not often you see humility on display so publicly.

[@sherylcoetzer1]

Keep making your voice to be heard so others will also find the courage to do the same! Even, though I am not from the US this message is relevant globally. I need to hear messages like this so I can make my voice heard where I am.

[@KMANelPADRINO]

I understand why you don’t want to use the word “nationalism.” However, you also are aware that they are attacking the actual definition as it was. The battle is over words with words. If one keeps changing to the seizure of words from the other side, then one is always controlled by the dictations of the other side, and in the war with words the war has been lost. One has to have a cultural alternative to be countercultural, and culture has extended to language since Genesis 10.

[@mitchellc4]

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

[@DeeGil]

Ive thought about this podcast episode a bit more. I appreciate Cooper making it, it goes a long way to produce something articulating what you believe so passionately. But, I do think he doesn't do the topic justice. He seemed to have to reframe a lot of what Beth Moore said, and circumvented Trumpism, seeming to care more about what is said about Trumpism and assuming underlying motivations of Beth Moore, but not actually tackling the issue at hand.

[@a-sideboxing9045]

Its mad sketchy youre trying to deflect trumpism and white nationalism, while also having aryan brotherhood bolts and skull in your logo. This is for real the skillet guy??

[@tbisrael9]

I thank God for people like you. My values and thought process on these issues are very similar to yours. God bless you, John!

[@PlanetGamz]

Isnt Beth Moore considered a preacher or pastor? If so shes wrong already & rebellious against god as he makes clear women cant be pastors. Its crystal clear on that. Maybe she needs to get right with god before preaching this.

[@QTofLBF]

Tell that to the judge Deborah, or to Priscilla...or to the author who wrote that in the last days your sons AND daughters shall prophecy.... Perhaps a little more study on the topic is called for...

[@shelleyr6013]

Beth is very clear that she doesn’t believe women should preach to men. She teaches women and if men choose to show up, then there they are. A woman’s pastor/teacher. She’s very clear on that.

[@PlanetGamz]

@@shelleyr6013 well I wouldnt allow men to sit under me if I was clear on the bible. I would call it a womens group & allow only women. Maybe shes not making it clear enough. I mean allowing mean to walk in is as bad as just preaching to anyone. It's like saying "well I don't believe in fornicating but if you come in fornicating anyway that's on you". No if someone came in doing something bad they should make them leave. Same here as men should sit under her. Shes allowing her meeting or service to be overtaken by sin.

[@QTofLBF]

If you study a little deeper, you would see that these 2 verses are cultural... And have to do with the prideful and domineering nature with which the questions are asked or the assumption of authority over men which was assumed by a certain type of women in the culture that Paul is speaking to. Otherwise, why where adhere so strictly to those verses and ignore the surrounding verses? Admittedly, the attitude does present concern in today's culture as well, but if a woman is submitted to God, and if what she teaches points to Him, and she does not assume ungodly authority over a man, how can you possibly compare a man listening to bible teaching (which is for all) to a person who is committing something blatantly outside of God's will? Something that has 2 verses in the entire Bible (and never implied by Jesus) to something so often taught against that it is VERY clearly a sin?

[@HotSeat17]

What up home skillet??? Blessings to you and your loved ones. Love your stuff! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👏

[@lukeafax2011]

I appreciate your thoughts on this John, however I don't think that your are right to assume that Christian Nationalism or Trumpism should be associated with Racism. IMO those don't have anything to do with racism in this context. I believe she is simply calling out how dangerous it is for people to put their faith more into our government, or nation over our Savior. To boil it down to racism hides the real problem that people treated President Trump as if he was some sort of savior, rather than the leader of a post-Christian nation. Interesting take though I just see it differently. Im glad I found your channel!

[@debiwallace2131]

John, Your absolutely right on track.

[@MD-ii3ry]

I'm conservative as they come, but these people who don't hold any standard on trump make me upset. People say" I'm voting for him to be my president, not my pastor...." but they go against James 2:1-4. They hold him high above other men.

[@laurachancellor9381]

King David was a murderer & adulterer - but he was still anointed at an early age to be king. Didn’t God know what would happen years down the road w/Bathsheba & her husband? Yes, and still chose David to be king. He is pro-God, pro-life & pro-Israel... all issues that honor the God of Heaven.

[@taky30]

@@laurachancellor9381 Trump is no David by a long shot.

[@taky30]

@MjdMjd I feel like he said all of that and as a black person I see where Beth Moore is coming from the church has been quiet on these issues. It makes me feel unheard

[@andrewcramer9200]

@@laurachancellor9381 David never said he didn't need to apologize to God because he never did anything wrong. David hated his own sin. This is intellectually dishonest as a comparison. David would have had nothing to do with Kenneth Copeland, Paula White or Rick Warren, much less appointed them to his spiritual advisory board. Just because John Hagee whispered into Trump's ear his perverted brand of Zionism doesn't means God is honored by it.

[@laurachancellor9381]

None of you understood what I was trying to say... just because I listed King David as an example didn’t mean I was comparing him to President Trump. ALL of us are sinful - God being omnipotent/omnipresent/omniscient knows our our sinful future & still appoints us to important positions, tasks, etc... Just because those preachers you mentioned were listened to by Trump doesn’t mean he followed what they said. I’m sure he took the best & disposed the false/negative part. He surrounded himself by an administration full of Christians - the most ever in an organization. For being such a “horrible person” that people try to make him out to be, he sure did support pro-life organizations/protected life, regularly spoke the Name ofJesus Christ & mention Him as Savior, was the first to fight against human/sex trafficking, moved the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, etc, etc...

[@matthews95_]

I am worried though that many believers, including myself, will join the conservative-Christian politics bandwagon and end up among the group of people that Jesus says “I never knew you!” to on the Day of Judgement...

[@barbs1298]

Here is what I say & I am 60 & have seen much in my day w/regard to christianity. Sadly, evangelicals have fallen into the conservative, patriot, political agenda trap. Many assume because one espouses oneself as patriotic & politically conservative, that one is Christian. The term political conservative & christian are not synonymous. A christian is one who has received Jesus Christ as their Lord & Savior & follow him. A political, patriotic conservative follows a man they view is their savior for America. That man may be politically conservative & pro-life to get a vote from a particular base. However, that does not necessarily make them Christian. It is a fine, deceptive line & dangerous. We live in difficult days. One who calls themself Christian needs to check & re-evaluate who they are following & what they are following. Are they following Christ & His Word or a man or party & their American conservative, patriotic ideology??? Thou shall have no other gods before Me...who is your God & I say that plurally for all who call themselves christian.