Skillet's John Cooper is still asking: What in God's name is happening to Christianity?

Just before Christmas, I got to talk with John Cooper of the band Skillet about his recent posts about what is happening within the church and the chaos in society. We also talk about his new book, Awake and Alive to Truth, which is a clarion call to Christians to live by biblical truth, rather than cultural norms.
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[@reverendtravistaylor4863]

I grew up as an atheist I was a flyleaf fan I didn't know that they were a Christian and when I was a teenager strung out on drugs and in 2012 I got backstage passes to meet the band and Lacy Sturm led me to Christ.

[@jonathancarlson6150]

amen

[@chessversarius2253]

Fantastic 👍👍👍

[@jpmarie9]

That's awesome!

[@mickidee6714]

That’s so awesome! Glad to have you in the family.

[@lauraelizabethbrown]

WHOA. Never heard a story like that before. I always knew Lacy was the real deal.

[@sammathai761]

Imagine what kind of a world we are living in, that a hard rock star is more rooted in the Word than woke pastors 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@IAmisMaster]

Seminaries are largely to blame. You will hear positive teaching regarding Liberation Theology before you will hear any serious consideration of Biblical justice.

[@DanielApologetics]

You took my words, Sam!

[@bradspaans6240]

Jesus was woke

[@bradspaans6240]

@@IAmisMaster but biblical justice and Liberation theology are the same thing?

[@bradspaans6240]

@SwiftJustice2020 Google the definition of woke and read the gospels in context and you will see that Jesus was probably the most woke person in history

[@crackedblackpepperandrocksalt]

Just like John Cooper, my mum also had cancer. While I was lost in drinking and drugs and wild teenager. The night I got baptized, my mums best friend told me, "all your mum ever wanted was to see you saved... At a meeting a pastor asked anybody looking prayer for healing to come forward, when my mum and her friend got to the stage, she said 'I don't want prayer for myself, I want you to pray that my son will get saved'. And I did 15 years later. I will see her in heaven 👑🙌

[@elsee7773]

Amen brother.....

[@sherryspears929]

That brought tears to my eyes. A mother's love is the strongest love in the world next to Christ's love. She wanted to see you throughout eternity. ❤️

[@88Nikoli]

"Anybody looking prayer " makes about as much sense as the bullshit in the Bible !

[@kenduke5164]

Congratulations, that was the best thing your mom ever gave you.

[@crackedblackpepperandrocksalt]

@@88Nikoli someone's under conviction

[@wadejinright3952]

We can't stop proclaiming Christ, just because the world tells us to.

[@alexbarajas1370]

PRAISE THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!

[@harrysphincter6496]

How about the other 41 million fictional characters of mythology?

[@joshyazel1200]

@@harrysphincter6496 Harry believes the Easter Bunny, evolution, and in the universe popping into existence uncaused. He also believes in the ancient mythological idea of animals coming from one another. It's where Darwin borrowed his idea.

[@TMPreRaff]

You also shouldn't proclaim christ because someone tells you to.

[@joshyazel1200]

@@TMPreRaff that's hypocrisy... it's y atheists believe in atheism. Someone told them a regurgitated ancient tale of humanism where animals magically change to other animals because someone told them to

[@markitux]

like "stop making stupid people famous", we need to stop making lukewarm people leaders

[@AverageJoePlaysPiano7621]

Amen. Billy Graham and John Cooper let Christ work a lot through them and help them be famous. I love their preaching

[@BoboFett]

truth

[@ryanforbes8775]

You got a problem with WAP?

[@cameraredeye3115]

@@ryanforbes8775 And you don't?

[@ryanforbes8775]

@@cameraredeye3115 well I think it's trash and leading a generation of adolescent people down a path of disparity and pain. But no to each their own.

[@markothesharko]

I used to work at a Bible College in So. Cal., where they would have free concerts for the public during the summer. Almost all the bands that would play had contract riders that included weird or sometimes even crazy requirements for them to play. Some were long lists of foods, requests for no employees to approach the band, a particular brand of expensive bottled water, etc.. Skillet & Christafari were by far the easiest bands to work with. Skillet said they could just eat whatever the students eat in the cafeteria, and wanted zero special attention. And they were super humble down to earth. They have had a special spot in my heart ever since.

[@raidrfrk]

How was Christafari?

[@markothesharko]

@@raidrfrk we did an evangelistic concert outreach in Mexicali with them. We had dozens of Bible College students that were sleeping on the cement floor of a church with just blankets and sleeping bags. When the van driver picked them up at the airport he asked them if they wanted to go straight to the hotel. Mark, the lead singer told him they would sleep where the students were. The ladies in the band stayed in the pastor's house. But Mark wanted no special treatment. They were VERY down to earth and loved hangin out with the students. Mark even let one of the students go up on stage during the outreach and belt out some rap. Awesome experience.

[@Sledg0matic]

The weird contract rider thing had its genesis in stage safety. If you don't have a wine-glass filled with brown MnM's in your dressing room, per the contract, you can't trust the overhead rigging not to fall on your band in the middle of a show, also per the contract.

[@markothesharko]

@@Sledg0matic LOL! You mean it wasn't the princesses demanding french bottled water and strawberry starbursts?

[@Sledg0matic]

@@markothesharko Sure enough, there's plenty of those as well.

[@middlegroundlogic]

He stopped a show to tell my daughter Happy Birthday on her 13th birthday. He walked over after his 2nd song to walk over and ask her her name and how old she was. A girl told her to yell that it was her birthday to him backstage and she did. He smiled and waved, then he came over during the show to talk to her. She was in tears. She's such a big fan

[@TonyC0101]

"It's time to make pastors uncool again."

[@sharoncrawford3042]

Uncool as far as what the world thinks cool is.

[@johntorres6566]

Yess

[@Gashd820]

Agreed

[@jamesdragonforce]

Huh 🤷‍♂️? They’re already pretty “uncool.” If being “uncool” means they create more atheists with the anti science and homophobic propaganda, then sign me up 👍.

[@SachelleCambria]

Good one.

[@Truth.419]

I attended a mega church for a few months. The pastor declared on New Years he wanted 100k followers on his Instagram by the end of the year. I found that troubling

[@mimao.5150]

Lol, that's funny I would say goodbye to the church forever.

[@ibealion1]

It's important to read the Word and trust in the Lord and not in men. He said it out loud... how many are hiding that desire? But God has a remnant and we can be included in that remnant as we walk by faith.

[@paigemama5904]

Gross

[@kingchris1353]

What I found troubling is you attend a mega church service, they’re all in a satanic cult organization.

[@lindsaychilders6927]

@@kingchris1353 you can't say that because a church is large, that it's satanic. There is truth out there. I would agree that it seems to be looking like the prosperity gospel (which is fake) seems to be attracting huge congregations and seems to be the new and popular norm. I just left a huge church that I learned much from, but they started to get into "racial reconciliation" under the guise of "white people are all, racist."

[@lettyguerra371]

Attention pastors! James 4:4 "Friendship with the World is Enmity with God!"

[@CarnivoreChristian777]

@Sabbath 7th dayBelieving in false prophetess Ellen White over the Word of God is idolatry. Living in the law instead of Grace denies the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Nonsda.org

[@menknurlan]

@Sabbath 7th day learn some church history. Even the first apostles already started coming together on the sunday. The sunday was always a special day for the first christians. Its was a celebration day becayse it was Christ's resurrection. Also the gentiles had slaves. It would be impossible for the slaves to not work on the sabbath day. God knew this and his holy spirit lead paul and the first christians to know this

[@equinoxproject2284]

@@CarnivoreChristian777I agree EGW had problems, many problems. Does being wrong about some things mean that you are wrong about everything?

[@equinoxproject2284]

@@menknurlan How do you view the 10 Commandments, are they to be observed and if so how do you personally observe the Sabbath?

[@denisehedrick6722]

That's right a friend to the world is an enemy to God and they chose the world and the things of this world over Christ and I pity them.

[@jaredstepp2849]

A Pastor here, thank you both so much for standing up for Jesus and for truth. So many of us feel so localized with our voice that the message is not getting out. You are helping to amplify the message of Jesus and I support you fully and am right there with you

[@micheleh5269]

I feel that one of the reasons Christians 'lost credibility' is even more basic -- Loss of belief in Creation. The Bible correlates purity with recognizing God as Creator. If we dont take the creation account seriously we lose the story of Adam and Eve, We lose original sin. And which parts of the Bible do we keep or set aside? If we write off creation, it makes perfect sense to set aside theology of suffering and hell too, because they are even harder to explain. According to a study by Ken Ham 'Already Compromised', In Christian Colleges and Universities -science majors are more likely to believe in a young earth than religion majors! This is because Christians who are science majors realize how Weak the theory of evolution is. Maybe if we address this foundation, which is cracked and falling apart will have more of an effect than we realize. God bless you

[@harrysphincter6496]

@@micheleh5269 well then why hasn't creation been shown to be true? After all it's been thousands of years and still nothing. Meanwhile in 500 years science has brought mankind countless discoveries. Currently at more than one per day.

[@micheleh5269]

@@harrysphincter6496 I love science and glad for new inventions. Inventors and scientists have often believed in creation. According to evolutionists the last couple of major steps in man evolving from ape happened over the last 4 million years. But there were not that many hominids. Here is a quote from Wikipedia on Prehistoric Demography (linked below): "A total of 2 billion to 20 billion hominids that lived during that approximately 4,000,000-year time span.[11]" We currently have 7.8 billion on the earth today. During those 4 million years it would have taken decades to produce 100,000 births. But we have 100,000 people being born every single day now. Yet instead of genetic mutations leading in positive directions we usually see very negative outcomes. We are involved in the special needs community - and several have a 'genetic defect'. And these defects can be something as simple as getting 2 copy of mom's instead of 1 mom and 1 dad in a certain position on a certain chromosome. The results from what seems like a minor mutation can actually affect several parts of a person and on ability to walk, speak, learn, vision...parents of children with genetic defects think evolution is very unlikely. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_demography#:~:text=Prehistoric%20demography%2C%20paleodemography%20or%20archaeological,and%20hominid%20demography%20in%20prehistory.

[@harrysphincter6496]

@@micheleh5269 " I love science.. " and then make a feeble attempt at misrepresenting it. Cite the source of your claim that negative outcomes exceed beneficial. How exactly would a random mutation choose?

[@harrysphincter6496]

@@micheleh5269 what exactly is an Evolutionist? Evolution is a field of science and NOT a belief system. Ironically a belief system trying to claim verifiable evidence as a belief while using belief. Are you really that ignorant or that indoctrinated

[@donfilcek2426]

“Science is going to change what celebrities tell you is going to change But the Word of God will never change.” 🔥🔥🔥

[@andrewperkins9346]

I hope you go back to school and start learning everything including physics and mathematics from the basic.

[@irvingalfaro8735]

Science doesnt tell you anything. it just is, it doesnt speak and it doesnt order. The word of God changes. in the old testament it was just one god and now its three in one? Slavery was permitted in the old testament and now it isnt. eating pork wasnt allowed, now it is. Death for working on the sabath, now no penalty. Homosexuals used to be prohibited in churches, in the future, they will be pastors in churches. The old and new testament change so much that its just two different gods. But I dont blame God if he does exist. Chrsitianity and Islam are just man made religions.

[@azurephoenix9546]

hilariously, science has changed its mind about "scientific facts" about 15 times since you wrote this comment.

[@beatlesrgear]

@@andrewperkins9346 He's not talking about true science, but the fake science being pushed by the Left everywhere you look. Even a lot of the "scientists" today contradict proved science as they force in their political agendas to try and pollute the results of studies and basic common sense.

[@beatlesrgear]

@@irvingalfaro8735 Boy are you confused! Go and study the Bible with proper Hermeneutics and stop trying to eisegete the Word of God. Islam and Christianity are as alike as feces and Filet Mignon are.

[@wendyhallgren3595]

I used to volunteer at Cornerstone festival. I gave artists rides to the grounds. Of all the artists I met this man was the most "real". When I picked him up he hoped in the front seat and spoke to me. All the others rode in the back and I was basically just a driver to them. He's the real deal.

[@slothsinabucket7856]

I miss Cornerstone Festival.

[@markmooserock]

My former youth pastor said he saw John Cooper at a gas station years ago. He walked up to John and said, "You ever heard of a band called Skillet?" John replied with, "Nah, they suck." He apparently then stuck around for a while just talking with my youth pastor. I never forgot that story.

[@GilsTestChannel]

It’s the small things and the small moments in life that make a difference for eternity. One doesn’t have to become a mega church preacher in order to store up vast treasures in heaven.

[@lornabarrett7808]

They were the ones who thought more of themselves than they ought think.

[@rickgrebenik9250]

Explain why he did a weird demonic body shake on stage during his concert? That threw me off

[@milagroman75]

As an individual with an Eastern Orthodox mindset, I have had a lot of struggle showing respect to non-denominational Christians. After encountering your channel I have realized how loveless I have been towards many Christians lately. You personally have helped me overcome this hesitation I have to share my love of Christ with those that don't fully theologically align with myself. You are so wise and have exemplified in my mind a quote from St. Nektarios..."Love should never be sacrificed for the sake of dogmatic differences". Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

[@satinderkaur4453]

God bless you always

[@vickiekelly7479]

Amen, God bless and keep us always!

[@peteragoston-petrosthemusi8260]

So good to read your words! Agape means relationship.. Practically :) knowing one another.

[@evan7618]

I grew up Roman Catholic and now I'm just simply a follower of Christ.

[@thinkagain2033]

It’s a process for a lot of us.

[@juliefitzgerald-frangos2211]

I really needed this , I’ve found it so difficult to live in this world. This gave me courage to realize I am not supposed to be comfortable here. Our culture does not often allow messages like this to get out. I thank you both so much for this episode

[@michaelroy6630]

"We need to go back to old wisdom, not what some 20 year old thinks because they're pretty." THANK YOU

[@marym8712]

I’m seeing so many of them on insta/tik tok. Honestly i dislike the strange/cringe part of Christian social media, rather watch wholesome content 😃👍

[@miguelcarlosperaltaaviles2225]

I think It have to be like 50 years ago....!

[@harrysphincter6496]

@@marym8712 Wholesome content? Then you probably shouldn't read the Bible with the perversion and brutality that's in it

[@marym8712]

@@harrysphincter6496 I didn’t mean to offend you in anyway, by wholesome I mean e.g. things like animal or cute content, but reading my Bible is more wholesome than anything . Pls Don’t be offended 😄👍

[@harrysphincter6496]

@@marym8712 the Bible is full of perversion and brutality or do you just cherry pick?

[@kenshiloh]

The Bible is a lamp to my feet. I did not like reading the Bible, then I asked God to give me a hunger for it! I would say that I average 5 to 10 hours per day listening to the Bible. If you are spiritually weak, ask God to give you a desire for His Word. Jesus said, "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst after righteousness." He is the light of the world!

[@kyleisaacson4852]

Have you gotten to the part where the Bible condones the owning and beating of people as property and the killing of homosexuals?

[@svenred6eard757]

@@kyleisaacson4852 Obviously he hasn't then. Even if he is just a NT reader, there's still plenty in there god can give him a hunger for. Such as: Killing trees because they are out of fruit bearing season; drowning innocent pigs; ordering us to obey our slave masters; giving up on our families to follow a cult leader; magic spells like 'walk on water' , 'create food' and 'resurrect'; or the mushroom trip ending. Plenty to go on!

[@Drockninja75]

@@kyleisaacson4852 I haven't heard about that why don't you elaborate?

[@svenred6eard757]

@@Drockninja75 Exodus 21 and 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10

[@svenred6eard757]

@@Drockninja75 And regarding the killing of homosexuals- Leviticus 20:13

[@vhagerty]

What's happening with Christians today? Exactly what Jesus said would happen: many will fall away and many wolves in sheep's clothing. 😊

[@melindaglover6548]

Wow my words exactly!!

[@Jonas-gl9ke]

Barnum statement.

[@amberslahlize7961]

That isn't whats happening to the church. This is more like judgement.

[@joshuamoses1631]

Exactly, good answer

[@dieselexkore2063]

Exactly!

[@rose2525bud]

That was wonderful, now I don’t feel alone, thinking all my Christian friends and pastors where going over the cliff. I feel I can speak more boldly in the truth even when it’s not popular anymore. 🙌🏼🔥🙌🏼

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

All because these people were willing to speak the truth. You can be that truth speaker for someone in your life. You can stand up and gice someone else that courage too.

[@Gashd820]

Ditto!

[@pennypistol]

I’ve stood up and spoken the truth and I’m judged. Hopefully this will be a better way for me to say it to speak the truth

[@jcthejfreak]

I grew up as a young Christian on Skillet’s music. We even covered their song around once or twice. I’m happy that they have grown even stronger in their faith.

[@phannybrce]

What an encouragement as a mom that John's mother had such a spiritual impact on him.

[@karaa7595]

I thought the same thing. My son has only known Christ and at 5.5 he's a stronger Christian than some adult believers I know.

[@magen2271]

@@karaa7595 my 5 year old daughter is the same. What an absolute blessing. She always shares her faith and reaches people I never could. Each time we go grocery shopping or into the world we do it as a team and what a beautiful thing that is. Peace and grace to you and yours. Keep shining and enduring. ❤️ 🕊

[@KittredgeRitter]

Which church did he say he went to again?

[@QuiverofArrows]

Amen

[@caitlinring]

'Devoted' by Tim Challies is all about moms in history and their spiritual influence on their sons. So inspiring.

[@chessversarius2253]

"If you are not willing to take up your sword, then I'll have to draw mine." -John Cooper

[@redimi24jc]

Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matt 25:52

[@chessversarius2253]

@@redimi24jc Thank you for your response, however, that is a different kind of sword :D. You mean a physical sword, John Cooper means the sword of the word of God (part of the armor of God), as described in Ephesians 6:13-17. I hope this makes things clearer 👍

[@amberslahlize7961]

Ah,, but Jesus said he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.

[@chessversarius2253]

@@amberslahlize7961 Yes, but in that moment he was talking about a literal sword :D, in the context of physically hurting/ attacking others. Jesus also said: "Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth, I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." -Matthew 10:34 And later in Ephesians 6:13-17 we are told, to put on the armor of God, which also contains the sword of the Word of God. This sword of the Word of God is what John Cooper is talking about, and which all Christians should have and if necessary use. I hope this was helpful 👍

[@worthyisthelamb6071]

@@chessversarius2253 We live by the spiritual sword. The Word of God, and we will die by the s(Word). God bless you my friend

[@carafowler9235]

I accepted Christ in 2012, the year that you said things started getting relative in American Christianity. It’s encouraging because 2012 is when I heard the clear Gospel, not sugarcoated or watered down. Sometimes I feel like the one of the only young, newlywed women who submits to the Word of God. Thank you for standing up for Truth

[@thecrossoncottage]

Right there with you Cara!!!!

[@jeffmuller1489]

I became a Christian in 1991. I served in music ministry until 2016. Now I can't find a church that doesn't make me cringe. I think we are still supposed to be Christians and find our ministry and fellowship outside the walls of a church. Thank you for confirming that I'm not crazy. The culture has been given over to their own devices. We are living in a post Christian world, but there are still opportunities to serve God for those who don't seek the spotlight.

[@jeffmuller1489]

@@johntorres6566 leaving the church is not the same as leaving a church or leaving Jesus. I'm still looking for fellowship in the Church and with the Lord personally.

[@Lilacs4]

It's so hard to find a church that isn't too cringe or isn't too cultural. But it's worth the time investment because it's exhausting to not have a safe space (if you'll pardon the term) to be fed and poured into, recharge for the daily grind. The church isn't supposed to be the outsourcing of evangelism it's supposed to be the training grounds to equip believers to go out and evangelize and minister. It took my husband and I a few years to find a new church when we moved, but it was so worth it. I'm serving on the worship team now and feel even more peace and confirmation it's where God wants us. We've made some irreplaceable friendships here and been blessed by solid sermons and down to earth people who genuinely care. I realize your comment is a couple years old but I hope and pray you've been able to find a church like that and enjoy the blessings and resources it provides. And remember, we're all a part of the one true church, Jesus's adopted family. ☺️💖

[@randyklein938]

God delivered me from the homosexual life. I was in it to long and thought it was just great, out meeting people every weekend looking for the right one not realizing the right one was never going to come. Now people tell there sorry for me because I became ashamed of who I was, I am ashamed of it but only because I fell for the lie and deception. Dont let anyone tell you that the homosexual life is ok with God or it's what he made you, that is just satan whispering in your ear lying.

[@christiaansnyman811]

I went through the same, I was bullied in school for being different, now I follow God, and He freed me from the gay lifestyle, now woke people bully me. Bless you brother

[@randyklein938]

@@christiaansnyman811 same to you may God keep us both strong.

[@poetsrear]

No need to answer if it's too personal, but I'll ask if you were restored with a passion towards woman or if you just live a "life of a monk"?

[@conversion721]

Now God will give you bad wife

[@randyklein938]

@@poetsrear neither I live a life for God. I didn't trade one sin for another so I dont go around scoping out women I just leave everything in his hands. You dont have to be with women to be right just live for God and if he places one in my life yes I'm totally good with that but just living for him is good enough. Its been six years and I can say I will never go back to that life.

[@TheChurchSplit]

This was an encouragement. What a day when a rock star and pop singer are more biblically grounded than half the churches out there...

[@kristabinkley5228]

Yes!

[@danielwilliams693]

Funny thing is that when i was younger people in my family and church would said this same things about skillet's music, that is not really christian music, it is satanic music trying to confuse young people and all of that stuff haha

[@amberslahlize7961]

That should be disturbing you. What do you think God will do to you? I'm worried about what God will do to me.

[@colonelkenpachi5009]

@@danielwilliams693 actually you would be surprised that they are christian rock which i was allowed to listen so I listened to creed and skillet when I was in my youth. I was also allowed to listen to classic rock but that was because my uncle was a Christian himself and he was in a metal band himself. You can consider my situation lucky or privileged when it came to music because I came from a family that just loved music.

[@TheChurchSplit]

@@svenred6eard757 woah guys, I found the classic atheist straw man in a KZbin comment section devoid of any and all historical context or true meaning.

[@OldDannyboy12]

One thing I’ve noticed is that those I know who’ve walked away from their faith seem intent on upsetting the faith of others.

[@leithagrover9116]

I noticed that as well. I wonder why that is?

[@OldDannyboy12]

Leitha Grover My first guess is that they were never really Christians to begin with, despite what they say. 1Jn 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us. I think some people may say a few words, go to church for a while, and think they are Christians.... while others make a pretense of believing but hate God and all who bear his name. These love to see people fall.

[@glitchfaith0076]

Exactly!!

[@BillyBob-lt5nr]

They are looking for validation, if they can convince others to agree, they must have been right. Others are testing, "Is this relationship still going to be compatible with my newly espoused worldview?" When the answer is no, they may try to bring you into their new worldview to salvage the relationship.

[@amandasignor4761]

@@BillyBob-lt5nr spot o

[@Matzoa07]

I was in a band called Zoa back in the mid 90’s and we were playing a festival with Rez Band when Sparrow records came out to see us! They said we sounded great but we need to rethink using the J-word so much in our music, because they were looking for crossover potential. We said absolutely not! Jesus got us to where we are and we’re not going to deny Him in our music! Needless to say! They didn’t pick us up! Glad you stood up to the very tempting offer!! Blessings to you both!

[@glitchfaith0076]

Where can I find yalls music?? I’d love to listen

[@Matzoa07]

@@glitchfaith0076 look for the band Zoa and the cd “The Storm” or “Vexed” our two studio recordings. There are a few other bands named Zoa but if you search with the CDs name you should find us. I also have some videos of our reunion we had in 2009 on my KZbin site ... they aren’t the best quality lighting wise but the audio is ok! When you don’t have a label backing you make due with what you’ve got! Thank you so much for your interest

[@spottedsaint957]

Do you mean Zao?

[@Matzoa07]

@@spottedsaint957 no Zao was a Christian core band we were Zoa a Christian rock band. The word Zoa was from the Greek and was used to describe the 4 living creatures that stood before the throne of God in the book of Revelation

[@brahtrumpwonbigly7309]

@@Matzoa07 that's cool. My dad was in a small rock band in his youth before he was saved. After that he always wanted to start something or do praise and worship at his church but never really got the chance sadly.

[@elizantoinette]

How to identify a false church......the world loves it.

[@inthematrix4649]

so True!

[@leonelealcantara6178]

Indeed

[@williamruiz1453]

EXCELLENT POINT

[@Kansas_Princess]

Very True!!

[@amberslahlize7961]

Not necessarily...we are to witness to the world, and to spread the Gospel. There have been many ages of Christianity after Christ in the world. How do you think we're spreading the Gospel by acting like cult-members? It's no wonder they mock us and call us cultists..

[@mootpoint7053]

"If you're not WILLING to draw up your sword, then I'll have to draw mine." I just love that quote. It's so relevant in today's world as much as it has always been. Good chats, I appreciate you both.

[@heatherthorn7226]

I absolutely love John Cooper and Skillet. It’s great to see a local guy (Memphis, TN) make such an impact for sound theological thinking. This Northeast Arkansas gal is so proud!!! Kudos

[@heatherwoods5703]

What a marvelous conversation. As a Christian homeschool mom of 3 now-teen-aged sons, it's so encouraging to hear testimonies of a mom's influence reading the Bible to her kids. God's Word truly does not return void! I'll be watching this one again with them. 💗📖🤗

[@madri0929]

This woman is on-point and solid, and this musician is equally eloquent. What a blessing.

[@hunterswain3485]

She’s awesome!🙏

[@JV-bj9zq]

"This women" 😆... Your'e in her channel Man lol... Alisa is her name.

[@sbrown8937]

They totally are...to hear them talking about truth... It was a breath of fresh air listening to them

[@mbarnabeus]

The guy is speaking with a christmas tree behind his back (prohibited as a pagan practice in Jeremiah) then they r discussing whats wrong with christianity today..they drifted away from "you the only true God" (Jésus speaking about God) ""I go to my God n your God" drifted away from the chama to the trinity drifted away from accepting the next prophet in Isiah 42 (mountain sala is in todays saudi arabia, n kedar is the arab ancestor of prophet Muhammad peace be upon him) drifted away from the Real teaching of Jesus Christ peace be upon him to the teaching of corrupt church injected under the cover of unknown Writers John Matthew..dont blame The Quran for debunking those Who falsified the true message of Jesus Christ peace be upon him.

[@TinkerBell-bt6vu]

@@mbarnabeus Hello brother, the scripture verse in Jeremiah is not talking about Christmas trees lol. Ps. it isn't talking talking about trees at all. You took one sentence and ripped it out of the passage that surrounds it. Yes that one single sentence is about a tree, but the verses before are very important to understanding that verse, and the verses IMMEDIATELY AFTER are even MORE important to understanding that verse. We cannot rip sentences out the Bible and make them say what we want. There are 3 rules to proper Biblical exegesis: 1. Context 2. Context 3. Context. Read 10 sentences before and 10 sentences after and it will be crystal clear it is talking about cutting down the tree, getting a master craftsman who will carve and shape it (who does that for a Christmas tree anyway? Your argument falls apart right there). Then they will paint it with silver and gold....and it is talking about carving IDOLS! and then the flowing verses talk about those idols that were just carved. It is extremely clear if you read it in context You do know that "verses" are not divinely inspired like the rest of the Bible. The "chapter and verse numbers" were added in centuries later. They were added in so that we could easily and quickly reference the scripture when studying and talking about it to others (this should be common knowlege). The original books - eg. Genesis, Jeremiah, Matthew etc etc - are actually books unto themselves. The Bible is made up of 66 different books. This is vitally important! When you read a book - even textbooks- do you read it sentence by sentence and then derive your meaning on a standalone basis. Of course not! The meaning of each sentence in any book is based on the CONTEXT of the story - especially what comes directly before and after. So we can't just pull a single sentence and make up a meaning for it - especially when the meaning is given directly after that sentence. So if you read the paragraph before and after that verse you will clearly see that it is talking about making idols out of wood. Once you cut the tree down it says they get a master craftsman and he carves it and covers it in silver and gold (exactly like the idols the other nations were making) We also understand scripture in context of the rest of scripture. and the "paint them silver and gold" is found in another place in the Bible (the verses are clearly referencing eachother) and that other verse is ALSO talking about idols. It's as if they were interpreting eachother (how about that!) And then the sentence right after that (amd before that) it talks about worshipping the idols that were made out of that tree. It is describing idols it is so clear but you have to read it IN CONTEXT.

[@WhittneySKilgore]

This blessed me! I too am confused as to why people are so silent about Gods righteousness. I’m praying that God will give me wisdom as I study and a holy boldness.

[@lindsaychilders6927]

I'm praying for your boldness, Whittney! You have it in you to spread the truth in the way that God ordained you to. Can you imagine all the people you could influence with the truth just by speaking it?!! Go get um!!❤

[@linoornano4585]

Because we are the next generation that needs to carry on with the good news.

[@jeffreyyoungblood7438]

Because there is a demonic stronghold in the culture silencing them and they are caving in for various reasons...fear of man, love of the world, etc...

[@revelationrainbowmotherlod6488]

I was held by the deep state aka Illuminati aka New World Order for 8yrs 3mo. and 11 days. We had a planned front row seat to 911! Start with Part 1 Meeting Jesus while working for the Illuminati. I made a series of short videos to tell my story as it it very deep stuff and includes Obama wearing a talisman around his neck at the age of 8. That same talisman aka Baal figure was found at the dig sight in Israel I went to in 2000. A town condemned for lack of faith by Jesus Christ! My story connects Nostradamus to Obama and my old boss who is a 3rd Order Jesuit who had worked for NASA and who also did a conference paper on automated air traffic control in conjunction with NATO 10 years prior to 911. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHPJo4qXmqaMhtE

[@KJJ3942]

@@jeffreyyoungblood7438 I see that 100%

[@samuel.carlson]

I am not a parent. But I am certainly in agreement that it is important for believers to teach their children about the Lord!

[@oba-one]

John Cooper is such an intelligent man. Most people think they've got the answer in a 4 minutes video. I remember several times even in church, I would here so much emphasis on a text that I haven't fully grasped, or it feels like it's being rammed down my throat. So in a moment of discomfort, I would go back and read a few verses or chapter before that verse to get the context of it, and by so doing, I would have better understanding. But the world is so fast paced that Christians don't even want to take their time to study so they can defend what they believe. Because the Bible can be easily misinterpreted by anyone who doesn't take their time to study

[@d.g.rebbechi8629]

Interpret and study in the context of the WHOLE bible. Start today, it's worth it!

[@meme-hz1mq]

Very well said! Our pace is supposed to be opposed to that of the world, which is so fast-paced, as you said.

[@johnwells3330]

Never listened to Skillet back in the day, but John Cooper is a rock star for standing up for truth. Appreciate you speaking out, keep fighting for the faith.

[@clarie4497]

@Brazilian Goddess what

[@PGOuma]

I listened to them a lot in my teen years and respected them from coming from Memphis lol

[@PGOuma]

@Brazilian Goddess love them 💕

[@trueworshiplife]

So many Christian bands stopped singing about Jesus and are now paying the price.

[@xyz-bz1fc]

I am not familiar with very much contemporary christian music, save for the songs "Our God is an awesome God", and that one song by a very deep base singer of 3rd Day (i think), and that is about it. Please elaborate on what christian bands are singing about. I hear that many of these songs are rather empty with much repetition of the same words.

[@trueworshiplife]

@@xyz-bz1fc about the early 2000 many Christian labels where bought by the big 3 record labels and asked artists to drop Jesus and you will make more money many of them did . They found themselves in debt marriage broken a mess. I'm not gonna name anyone but many have repented and are changing direction.

[@xyz-bz1fc]

@@trueworshiplife Thanks, I did not know that. The follow up question/observation I have; is how much were they into Jesus if they can just drop Him for the sake of making more money?

[@BiblePsychology68]

@@xyz-bz1fc The songs have definitely been watered down.

[@amylynnhunt55]

*Awesome God* was written and sung by my friend Rich Mullins. He was killed in a car wreck, my friend Mitch McVicker was with him and we almost lost him too. Rich hated "Awesome God", or thought it was not one of his better songs and said he thought it would "fall out of use". But that's the one Rich song everyone knows. You must listen to the verses too though, churches seem to just like the chorus. Reich's music... I can't think of much that's been that good, especially in the last (yikes, this will be 24 years, feels like yesterday) years. I was so sad recently, put Rich in "random" and just had myself a mini concert a few nights ago. It was just the best time! A lot of Mitch's music is really good too, his life show is fantastic, I always encourage people to see him live.

[@MultiButterfly1984]

This blessed me so much! I’ve always been a fan of Skillet and now I know why. He’s all in with God. Love it!

[@bobbygould1960]

Me too, I also love their music.

[@cadafamily]

Me being a parent of 5 boys and raising them up in the admonition of the Lord your testimony John is a real encouragement, it is my desire for all of my children from a young age to follow Jesus till the day they take their last breath...

[@kevinbuller9095]

One must never tolerate evil. For first, evil is tolerated; then embraced, then hailed as being good-then it becomes unlawful to do what is actually good.

[@Rightlydividing-wx1xb]

Good observation!

[@reesecup3ify]

Only a fool would go along with these evil mask mandates. This is not about a virus! Wearing a mask is dirty and it spreads more disease than it prevents mainly because people don't know how to use them properly. For someone with discernment the masks appear evil and we should have nothing to do with even the appearance of evil. First the masks were tolerated, then embraced, then hailed as being good, and soon it will be unlawful to go anywhere without a mask. Don't be a fool! Take off the masks!!!

[@Nexus_of_Sominus]

Sounds like America today.

[@JohnnyAnderson1]

1st generation allows 2nd generation accepts 3rd generation promotes

[@wingnutzster]

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” Burke

[@bigfootfound5301]

"Subtract Jesus, and money and influence will be YOURS!!" That struck me as a real, satanic "temptation in the desert" moment. The parallel is chilling.

[@jessicawestbrook3730]

Yes!

[@jesusisalive3227]

Same here!

[@vickiekelly7479]

Exactly what I thought of that story. Chilling indeed.

[@bigfootfound5301]

@Tribulation Saints Europe Yes, I've viewed those presentations.

[@elisabethbeekman6504]

Same!

[@jmkgraceofgod]

I’m so thankful God led me to ask hard life questions and really seek out answers from my early teen years. Now about 20 years later, I feel like all that struggle pays off, because I have my head in straight and can discern lies from truth.

[@stadler72]

I feel exactly the same way. I never knew why I had it so hard and everyone else was getting blessed. God had to lead me through some tough things to make me who I am today, by his grace and his grace alone.

[@carriepellicer9526]

I started talking to my Grandson about Jesus when he was 4. I feel so bad for the people who will never know what it is to have Christ in your life. Can you Imagine that? Going through this life without knowing Christ? I'd rather be tortured! And these woke Pastors..... the church has really failed its public.

[@buzzowen7193]

“Tell me what the world is saying today, and I’ll tell you what the church will be saying in seven years.”- Francis Schaeffer

[@TonyC0101]

WOW!

[@paysonfox88]

You really know your old theologians. I haven't seen a Francis schaeffer quote in years on one of these comment sections. I've watched his two major series and listen to a few of his old audio recordings from lectures in the 70s. Have you ever heard of Jonathan Edwards? That guy was fire! got sinners so offended at him that he had to preach on his father's grave to keep them from killing him once.

[@sseltrek1a2b]

he was "way" ahead of his time, and he's completely right in what he says here...

[@jeffreyyoungblood7438]

Yep!

[@tonivoelpel9489]

@Quinton Saxby Yes there is a GOD!!

[@willowwillow1969]

I was at an extreme low in my life. I was not suicidal BUT I had my toes hanging over the cliff. I felt hopeless, no joy...and in my desperation, I called out to Jesus. The restoration in my life is amazing. I am now married to my 1st boyfriend. We have a very happy life. He will restore the years the locust stole. Thank You Jesus!!!

[@crackedblackpepperandrocksalt]

Amen 👑

[@mitchelljames1111]

This was so powerful. I was a huge fan of both skillet and zoey girl as a teen and had no idea the ministries you are providing. I believe in the whole word of God. Yeshua’s blood is our redemption. I’ve been trying to put my finger on why I’ve been so disturbed by social justice but you both made it so clear. Praise the Lord for both of you. May Yahovah bless you two so completely.

[@KayakKid]

I didn’t think I’d watch this whole video but all I can say is wow! Totally worth it! Finally “famous” Christians standing up for the truth for once instead of what’s popular. Thanks for the awesome music and speaking the truth John!

[@Moshugaani]

I can't help but think that a lot of people who fall away from the faith, especially celebrities, have actually believed in a false idol and a misrepresentation of the gospel.

[@bobbyrayvictory6905]

Not necessarily. They could just be seeds that fell on bad soil. Or a house built on sand. The moment the flood comes they get swept away into the world.

[@TinkerBell-bt6vu]

Thats a good point. And considsring how MILLIONS of people attend each mega church in the USA thats millions and millions of people who were saved by a false gospel and who have never known the truth so of course it will come crashing down. These false preachers have taken over and deceived way too many

[@valley5617]

Parable of the sower, right?

[@rachelwitenhafer]

So tell me why it’s always “God will never leave you” “you’re secured forever” until your not? Doesn’t make any sense.

[@Moshugaani]

@@rachelwitenhafer I do believe in eternal salvation, which means that if you're truly saved then you'll always be saved no matter what. So to be consistent I do believe that you can't lose your salvation by committing any sin or by experiencing loss of your faith. If you can't stay faithful, then God will still remain faithful and he will carry you home. The blood of Christ has paid for all of your sins and Christ will always be your advocate before God, and you are permanently sealed by the Holy Spirit unto salvation. But that's why, when somebody falls away and renounces their faith, it's easier to rationalize it by thinking that they might not have been saved to begin with. How would it be possible to stop believing if the Holy Spirit is in you? But it isn't for anyone to make a final judgment on someone else's salvation.

[@Persnicketychichi]

Something I was noticing is a lot of people say "Well, that's my truth." .... but... is it THE Truth? Judges says the people fell away from God and began to do right in their own eyes. Which is exactly what the My Truth movement is .

[@phairplaigh]

God is the definition of truth, anything outside of God is a lie. Whenever I hear people claim to have their own truths I'm reminded that Satan has his own "truth" also & he is a VERY GOOD liar.

[@Persnicketychichi]

@@phairplaigh amen!

[@ahandfuloffun]

Isn't that an Oprah-ism??

[@Iranianjunkie]

If -The Truth- is determined by words from a book(or The Book) then how will Christ respond when he returns? Will he not treat us like the Scribes?

[@Persnicketychichi]

@@Iranianjunkie I'm confused by your question. Would you mind elaborating?

[@kellidillon115]

I can’t even begin to tell you how uplifting this was to me. Thank you for being bold enough to have these conversations. This video was literally a regurgitation of what my husband and I have been discussing the last 12 months. Praying over your ministry as you continue! Please don’t stop 🙏🏻

[@crystalvelazquez3283]

Thank you for posting this. It’s a much needed topic in today’s age. God is real, Jesus is truth!

[@petervaichus6978]

“This is what the Lord says: “Stand at the crossroads and look; ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls. But you said, ‘We will not walk in it.’ I appointed watchmen over you and said, ‘Listen to the sound of the trumpet!’ But you said, ‘We will not listen.’ Therefore hear, you nations; you who are witnesses, observe what will happen to them. Hear, you earth: I am bringing disaster on this people, the fruit of their schemes, because they have not listened to my words and have rejected my law.” Jeremiah 6:16-19

[@inmyopinion8620]

Amen. Jeremiah is greatly for this time, but the whole Bible shows us the way, if we read it.

[@redhedhik-chik2510]

Excellent! Read Isaiah 5:20: calling evil good...and good evil!

[@petervaichus6978]

@@redhedhik-chik2510 - yes indeed. That’s definitely happening today as good is being called evil, and evil is being called good. “The wicked freely strut about when what is vile... is being honored among men”

[@jcfreaksintx]

Awesome reference!!

[@loiscarteaux9389]

Thank you for the scripture!!!

[@robinmoore7202]

What John was saying about young people that never learned to make a case is a good point but I would add that they have never learned to think for themselves. Instead they just parrot the latest popular theory to stay relevant.

[@letmeapologize]

Yes! Major problem with our youth being taught WHAT to think rather than HOW to think! Man, oh man...

[@bkaye62]

Or they just Perot a minister

[@letmeapologize]

@@bkaye62 Same problem. People don't read the Word for themselves, but think they can make an argument against it. People don't think for themselves, but believe what they've been told must be so. Without having a plumbline of truth outside of our "feelings," we have nothing against which to test the things others want us accept as gospel, and are therefore we find ourselves unable (unwilling/unconcerned??) to "take every thought captive," as instructed in the scriptures. (2 Corinthians 10:5)

[@fundamentalescapepodcast8859]

It was an absolutely terrible point, Christians need to stop being so judgey

[@gracekereen]

I think more so he hit on the fact that young people are often going off a philosophy that by questioning everything and deconstructing any message they hear, they are thinking for themselves. Many are parroting back socially popular messages buy many othes are very much following their own human wisdom and very much "thinking for themselves" problem is, like he points out, this is usually happening without the real time or patience to truly understand the thing they are deciding about. But the real issue is that God calls us not to think for ourselves but to look at things through His heart and His word. Thinking for oneself in this day and age is honestly so exhausting.

[@laurat6057]

What an amazing interview! Thank you John L Cooper for lighting a fire 🔥 in our hearts...and calling us out. Alisa thank you for your ministry.

[@adh2172]

John is putting into words what I have been feeling, but couldn't pinpoint what I'm feeling. This is so confirming and clarifying.

[@aprilsrainey]

"the devil makes lies sound so much like the truth". Amen. This was a great interview.

[@winns35]

It's like bizzle said, study the lie and they can make new lies up, study the truth and you'll know when the lie comes. And we all know the only truth is the Bible. Study it, know the lies when you see them. Wokeness is strictly anti Christian. Christianity is about personal responsibility and wokeness and socialist communism is about it's everyone else's fault whatever happens to you. There is only one justice, social justice is a mockery of Christianity.

[@johntorres6566]

I love that

[@clarie4497]

Skillet's music had gotten me through some very hard times growing up. Suicidal, miserable and self harm. "Last Night" and "Whispers in the Dark" kept me going. Reminded me constantly that God had me and would always be here for me.

[@philtalamo5617]

Thank you John for boldly sharing the authority of God’s Word. This world needs the truth and Christians to proclaim God’s truth and not be ashamed of the Gospel because it is the power of God to bring salvation to everyone who believes

[@brandon9715]

Wow. I'm ashamed to admit that I just now found the channel, and I am not familiar with Alisa. I've seen what John has done over the years (who hasn't) but really didn't keep up with what he was/is up to. Incredible discussion, my respect for you both is great. We need more people like both of you. Keep fighting the good fight ✊

[@deannachapman5411]

Welcome! You're gonna love her! She's an articulate, intelligent defender of the faith.😊

[@therisk66]

Listening to you two talk has helped me realize that I haven’t been on the right path for the last while of my life. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for that. This has really helped me a ton✊🙏

[@terrencemedders1867]

The Lord rebukes those that He loves. May He establish your steps, and mine as well, back to His way.

[@truthseeker7575]

Too many relying on the Faith of others and not walking the path, themselves. This is why they fall away.

[@nathaniel3004]

Are you saved from your sins? Jesus commanded the apostles after His resurrection, to preach repentance and remission of sins, in His name, beginning at Jerusalem, and to wait for the promise of the Father, in Jerusalem. -Luke 24 45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, 46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 And ye are witnesses of these things. 49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high. -- And on the day of Pentecost, the Holy Ghost was poured out [Acts 2] And they spake with tongues as the Spirit gave the utterance. And Peter preached the gospel unto them and they were pricked in their hearts, and said, men and brethren what shall we do? And Peter said, Repent, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. This is how the bible says a man is to be saved. This is why Jesus said, he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved and he that believeth not shall be damned -Mark 16 Acts 2: 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. 37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. 40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. 41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. 42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

[@saigie3908]

This! The amount of ppl with false conversion saying that the church didn’t save them. I was like a building don’t save u, God does.

[@joshyazel1200]

Bingo!!

[@Iranianjunkie]

Some Christians think that theres no need for personal engagement, cause Jesus IS everything. As for me, starving to death is not my thing. “why settle for what is not bread, for what fails to satisfy” -Isaiah 55

[@johntorres6566]

Yes sir

[@hayleysutton6124]

Danggg, renewed respect for Skillet

[@thinkingbiblicallywithjexx6564]

Wow my mom just died from cancer and I found all my hope, strength, and peace in God. He is still good no matter the circumstances. I really enjoyed this podcast. I love Skillet's music by the way.

[@peterheroux8239]

As a 62 year old man, stuck on old blues tunes, I may just go out and get some Skillet! You rock dude!

[@gaylechristensen6285]

Just please pray and research first. It doesn't take too much discernment, about 5 minutes. We are all sinners saved by grace, but conversely you will know them by their fruits.

[@Odid.WarArt]

I hope you like their stuff, Skillet is one of my favorite bands, and hearing Cooper speaking out as he has been had only encouraged me more to support them. He has been speaking out against the watered down truth of Scripture! Unleashed is a solid and my favorite album, Comatose was my first album I heard by them.

[@chivalrousjack]

They were my jam,in the 90's. Good for you, Brother.

[@chivalrousjack]

@@gaylechristensen6285 Looks like good fruit. Maybe you should listen to them, too.

[@gaylechristensen6285]

@@chivalrousjack I have. I'm glad you enjoy them. Blessings!.

[@chilidog73]

It's really nice to see him standing by the truth and not wavering.

[@zmanag5297]

Found out about your story and your book, “Another gospel” on Cross Examined. And now having Skillet lead singer on with his story is awesome. I am so glad there are heroes of the faith anchoring into Jesus and emphatic truth. Thank you for presenting what God has called you to share.

[@mandyyoung6722]

I feel all of this in my bones. What an encouragement from start to finish

[@db2888]

“We need to go back to old wisdom.” One of my big concerns for years is that the older generation is being replaced with the young. There is so much knowledge and wisdom in the older generation! When I moved to a near area several years ago I looked for a church with a pastor and staff that was not just young people. There were only a few... Such a shame to see the Body of Christ push out the old for the new. We don’t need young “hip” pastors, we need those who have been in the fight for a long time and have a wealth of help to pass along! I am certainly not against raising up the young to serve, we should, but we can’t just eliminate the old warriors!!!

[@TGuard00014]

I wonder if that’s a regional thing or a denominational thing or a urban/rural thing. The average age of most of the churches I have attended (both United Methodist and Southern Baptist) is probably in the late 70s. I think the current average age of attendees at the church I grew up in is in the 80s. My current church family has a pretty good mix of young families and elders but I bet the average age of attendance is 60 something. But these are all small churches in rural areas...

[@edwardryan4701]

I think you can blame "Sunday School" and "Youth Ministry" etc which kept the young people from mingling with the older people and made sure they never actually joined "the church." Their egos were stroked. They were entertained "in Jesus name." The closest thing to "Christianity" most of these people heard was at best "moralistic therapeutic deism." They've now hijacked the Christian label.

[@glorfindelchocolateflowery6392]

The older generation let us down with their hypocrisy but sure blame all on the younger generation

[@db2888]

@@glorfindelchocolateflowery6392 You need to reread my comment, particularly my last sentence.... There was no blaming anyone in my comment.

[@glorfindelchocolateflowery6392]

@@db2888 you know what maby you didn't, but what young people do you know actually goes around trying to limit (old warriors) because I have never been in contact with any so called old warriors who ever cared about anyone younger than them, most young people dont even go to chruch everyday to have a relationship with Jesus christ, so how can the younger generation be trying to replace anyone? Most people these days focus on christ by themselves, so if all the older people hate the fact that( some) younger people are coming in chruch trying to show different and more open ideas about having a relationship with Jesus christ that is (bible based), than please just keep the seats and we can stay away and focus on Jesus christ by are selves. We don't limit Jesus christ to chruch and traditions

[@uplift56]

It’s time to make ourselves simple and make God elevated! When we make ourselves popular , then God has to standby until we get done showing off.

[@adamwarren5654]

This video is becoming more and more important as this country and world are falling deeper into Satan’s hands.

[@TMPreRaff]

Speak for yourself.

[@adamwarren5654]

@@TMPreRaff I take it you’re not a believer. If you were, you’d agree with me.

[@glitchfaith0076]

Yes amen! Heavens gates are closing and hells gates are opening

[@jarenc2048]

@@TMPreRaff No he’s speaking on society. And it’s true. Statistically and you can feel it.

[@CBC460]

I am a proud Agnostic/Atheist. I have deconstructed my faith as a former Roman Catholic. I’m happy not being religious anymore and all I can say is not force your beliefs onto others. Respect that.

[@lionoffireministries]

This is a BIG one!!! We need to see God as *revealed in the Bible* , not as we believe him in our minds, or in our Christian culture. 😊🙏👆🏼🔥

[@cat-bg3rv]

Amen, the name of Jesus is used across the board in the name of their agenda, their doctrine, their philosophy, their progressivism, their spirituality, and their other gods beliefs add Jesus the prophet not Jesus The Savior God's Holy Son! 😔👍🙏🙏

[@underwaves75]

Your statement is correct. Everybody needs to know this! The whole world is drunk on the doctrines of Babylon. INCLUDING and ESPECIALLY the visible Christian church! PLEASE if you can sense the deadness of the institutional churches and different ministries but can't put your finger on it. I'm pleading with you to understand something very important here. The mainstream Christian system is not of God. Rev 17:5 - "Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots, And Abominations Of The Earth." Mystery Babylon The Great is the Vatican - “And the woman which thou sawest, is that great Citie which reigneth ouer the kings of the earth.” - Rev 17:18 And she has harlot daughters which represent the protestant church world. And “the Abominations Of The Earth” are corrupt scriptures. And the final bible that will unite all faiths is called Wormwood/the Abomination of desolation. cvillebiblebaptist.com/AdultEducation/Vatican%20and%20United%20Nations%20Bible.pdf And Jesus Christ is calling His people out. Rev 18:4 “And I heard another voice from heauen, saying, Come out of her, my people, that yee be not partakers of her sinnes, and that yee receiue not of her plagues:” The most important thing to understand is that GOD CAN BE TRUSTED to preserve His word for every generation forever as He promises us in Psalms 12:6-7 and you do not need men to teach you. 1 John 2:27 “But the anointing which ye haue receiued of him, abideth in you: and yee need not that any man teach you: But, as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is trueth, and is no lye: and euen as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.” It’s vital to know, especially right now, that God has kept His word in tact. There is still an every word testimony with us! The following clip by Reg Block is what the Lord used to open my eyes to the truth of Gods promises in Mark 13:31, Psalm 12:6-7, Psalms 138:2, and Matt 4:4 and so on. It’s not more lifeless information. It is powerful and life changing and I’m grateful for it! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnKwgKSrrraoY5o The next video is a lesson by John Doerr on the pure word of God in the English language, which is found in the av1611 kjv. This is a much different testimony than the King James bible you are able to easily find in the churches and the so called "Christian bookstores". Please pray and genuinely take this before the Lord. He will show you. (Prepare to be attacked once you start down this path) The devil and his ministers don’t want this going out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWrPeoqahpWlmZI I prayed a long time to know what the truth was, because over the years I grew increasingly confused, frustrated, misguided and so on.. But like most of us, I kept returning to church Sunday after next hoping something would change. If I sang more, prayed harder, got more involved, etc, ...maybe something would give. But nothing ever did. I must have walked a thousand isles. It had gotten to a point where a friend at the time said, “just try and sing". He meant well, but it was always disingenuous so I never did. Long story short - my whole Christian life was that way until recently. (powerless) God has since saved me through genuine faith alone in Jesus Christ and now my labouring has finally ceased and I share in the Lords light burden and easy yoke. I’m born again of the Spirit. I really hope this reaches somebody. If this is you... honestly, please look into what I’m saying. God is rich in mercy and His patience is unmatched. He's been drawing me for a long time. Maybe He’s drawing you too and this is the message you needed. There is still hope. This link is a series of interviews between Reg Block and John Doerr that go in depth regarding Johns trip to England for the purposes of co-producing three films: A lamp in the dark, Tares among the wheat and A bridge to babylon. The three films (free to watch), cover the history of the bible. More specifically the preservation of Gods word and the measures that have been taken to cast doubt on, and ultimately destroy it. (it's a treasure of information for the Saints) - find the first interview to start on. kzbin.info/door/IfGUbjTsGu1dfoNqYUZzmgvideos here is one very final clip on the "servants of Lucifer" kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqa5hZ-PjtSmZsU "(if it were possible,) they shall deceiue the very elect.” It’s imperative to understand that the av1611 is much different than the 1769 KJV that most believe is the true 1611 but is not. The KJV only movement doesn’t use the authorized version of 1611 either. This is the bible that Rome has been trying to destroy and cast doubt on since its inception. Everything, from the gun powder plot to false rumours of King James being gay. It contains all the prophecies in tact. Things like, what is the mark of the beast, what is wormwood, who and what is Antichrist, who are Leviathan and Behemoth representations of, and so on. If the scriptures are broken, the prophets are killed and the church can’t hear what the Spirit is saying. freely ye haue receiued, freely giue.” Matt 10:8

[@cat-bg3rv]

@@underwaves75 Do you know who Melissa Daugherty is? I follow her here on u-tube. She loves God's word and shares pretty straight forward videos. Love to see the younger generation rightly dividing the truth these days!! 👍😉🙏

[@trevorwood5433]

These heavy metal dudes in the Church are as troubling for me. The music is very dark, not to mention the look of them.

[@chessversarius2253]

@LION OF FIRE - Christian Channel Amen!

[@PrincessOwusu]

"we need to go for old wisdom, not what some 20 year old thinks because their pretty" 😮😂😂

[@cat-bg3rv]

I know 😂

[@chelseerotter3795]

Amen

[@jboxy]

🔥

[@commandingnationsintl7792]

And "Patriarchy"? Who believes in that old bag of wisdom anymore. I mean, come on. 16 year old Suzie with 100k followers says differently.

[@mgkelly3389]

Oh my, perfect!

[@najeesimmons6648]

I’m grateful for this content! I appreciate the warning for anyone who wants to deconstruct his faith to first make sure he understands the faith as it is explained to us in the scriptures.

[@timwebb1309]

I ran into the band many years ago when they were starting out it was probably 1:00 am in the morning waiting for their ride after a concert and signing. They were all so nice and relaxed and the conversation was like they all knew you forever love these guys

[@fritzco55]

The church has become so involved in "reaching" out to the lost, that a good portion has cut it's roots. It has become watered down, so focused on integrating into the popular culture and its mantras that it no longer is in this world, but not of it, but rather the opposite: of this world, but not in the Kingdom.

[@LaureTheGamer]

Can I just say that, ironically, my experience with many churches is that most are engaged in the wrong kind of outreach or trying to reach out in the wrong ways. As culture forgets how to have discussion with those it doesn’t agree with, so does the members of the church forget how to listen and discuss with those who don’t share their faith. Outreach isn’t about going out into the world and engaging in the world’s activities. Instead it’s about discussion and standing firm on what you believe when there’s a biblical reason for it. It’s about bringing those genuinely desiring to learn into the church to be surrounded by community and mentors as they learn and grow. One of my experiences that blew my mind was from back when I was in college. We (college students) set up a weekly event on Friday nights for high school and college student where they would come to the church and play good, clean board games, card games, and video games together. We then would discuss and talk about God. We did it for 6 months at one church and brought in about 100 new faces, 30 of which got involved in the regular youth/college group church activities going forward. When we tried to find churches willing to support these activities with any sort of funding, they would never want to be involved anymore. The church leaders never visited the activities going on and often ignored the youth leaders about the positive impact it was having on bringing in youth and teaching college students to be leaders and talk about God. I’ll never forget, one of those very same churches then funded a much more expensive weekly community knitting project hosted outside the church. They were always trying to do the most snazzy thing instead of the things that actually brought new faces, ready to learn about God, into their doors.

[@fritzco55]

@@LaureTheGamer that’s sad to hear. Our church really stresses that faith without works is dead, and that supporting local community efforts (love your neighbor as yourself) are part of who we are as followers of Jesus.

[@Ampwich]

I see the opposite, at least in my town. Some churches are refusing to follow the guidelines amidst this pandemic, like wearing masks. They're trying to "stick it to the government" I guess, despite what the Bible teaches about obeying governing authorities.....And a lot of people who need spiritual growth - like me and my mom - can't go anymore (she has underlying conditions and I feel uncomfortable with it) so we're left at home, as well as many others I assume, because of that.....And some of my fellow Christians are going out maskless, flatout disobeying the rules and making people freak out....As well as other "our way or the highway" scenarios. Church seems like some odd, very closed off community lately.

[@jrg4313]

👍👍

[@morgantaylor517]

@@Ampwich I know Jesus said "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's" referring to taxes. I think that was about taxes but also that the Church is a place for SPIRITUAL development rather than Worldly concerns. I don't think he meant obey the government blindly but I could be wrong. I'm sorry your church isn't being safe during the pandemic though.

[@lionoffireministries]

The Gospel of Jesus Christ is *the only message in the world* that has the power to transform hearts 💔-> ❤️ By God’s grace 🙏 And for God’s glory 👆🏼

[@richardrice1032]

Agreed. Check out: "www.openbible.info/topics/transform"

[@kyleisaacson4852]

Untrue

[@pkpapers]

Jesus gave commands. Not everyone who says "Lord, Lord" is going to be judged a "sheep." There will be many "goats" (who think acceding to a creed of "decision salvation" replaces faithfulness demonstrated by following Jesus's commands).

[@edennoel5203]

@@pkpapers Remember.....God KNOWS the heart

[@svenred6eard757]

I dare you to say that out loud on a child cancer ward. Or in a town destroyed by a tsunami.

[@barisax96]

I can remember reading his letter about this falling away. I really appreciated hearing someone on a large platform calling it out. many teachers today and really for a long time have taught a weak message. they fear to teach the truth and call sin, sin, for fear of losing church members or offending someone or worse yet have their own sin exposed. but there are teachers that teach Bible, and do not apologize for it.

[@loydjenkins2241]

John Cooper has seen some of the reality, the hardness that is this life. You appreciate God when you deal with reality. God bless both of your ministries.

[@boomboombelle]

Makes me think of this CS Lewis gem “We may be sure that the characteristic blindness of the twentieth century - the blindness about which posterity will ask, "But how could they have thought that?" - lies where we have never suspected it... None of us can fully escape this blindness, but we shall certainly increase it, and weaken our guard against it, if we read only modern books. Where they are true they will give us truths which we half knew already. Where they are false they will aggravate the error with which we are already dangerously ill. The only palliative is to keep the clean sea breeze of the centuries blowing through our minds, and this can be done only by reading old books.”

[@gregoryhancock6057]

Skillet is the band that is unparalleled in both bolstering me and tearing me down. No other music I have heard disarms me, lays me raw, and builds me up as much as theirs. It is so wonderful to hear how grounded John is. "Read a book!" No kidding! "Read the old dead guys!" Yes! I was raised on Miles Stanford, Ruth Paxon, and J.B. Stoney. Thanks for having this interview, and thank you, John, for being real and being out there. Love to the band!

[@pastorjamesowudilie8233]

You're totally awesome. I love you from Warsaw Poland where Jesus lives

[@lindsaychilders6927]

Or....how about the " Do what makes you happy" generation. That was me as a teen. It was a way to stand up to your parents. (All lies) Doing what makes you happy, indeed leads to death.

[@merrivoelker2531]

We have a generation that wants to be spoon-fed instead of searching a matter out

[@melindaroop1346]

EXACTLY!!!! Instead of doing the studying and research and following inner guidance, they want to be told what and how to think.

[@nathaniel3004]

Are you saved from your sins? Jesus commanded the apostles after His resurrection, to preach repentance and remission of sins, in His name, beginning at Jerusalem, and to wait for the promise of the Father, in Jerusalem. -Luke 24 45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, 46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 And ye are witnesses of these things. 49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high. -- And on the day of Pentecost, the Holy Ghost was poured out [Acts 2] And they spake with tongues as the Spirit gave the utterance. And Peter preached the gospel unto them and they were pricked in their hearts, and said, men and brethren what shall we do? And Peter said, Repent, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. This is how the bible says a man is to be saved. This is why Jesus said, he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved and he that believeth not shall be damned -Mark 16 Acts 2: 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. 37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. 40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. 41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. 42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

[@peggycarson8960]

The problem is that Christians haven’t been taught as new Christians how to search out anything,. We’re missing disciples in the church today.

[@nathaniel3004]

@@peggycarson8960 Well , I would not say that the churches are the church, since all of them preach different doctrines, all contrary to the doctrine of Christ. The base principles of the doctrine of Christ, they leave out, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Some buildings, will preach how to be saved from your sins, by obeying the gospel. Repent, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. But leave off holiness, and continue in sin etc. or teach that God became a man, or that God is a trinity. The bible says that Jesus is the Son of God. God came upon Mary, and she conceived, and bare a Son, and his name was called Jesus. It does not say that the Son of God, came down and entered into his own mother's womb. But that the Holy Ghost came upon Mary and she conceived a bare a son. And God cannot die, yet Jesus died on the cross, and God rose Him from the dead. Jesus was born from God, this is why He called Him his Father, and that he is the only begotten of the Father. God is in Him. Jesus said that God is a Spirit, and those that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth. There is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

[@ifyouloveChristyouwillobeyhim]

Yes, and their parents let them waste their lives on cell phones and on school buses. >:( WHERE WERE THEIR PARENTS??

[@rogeradlon5122]

We live in a culture that listen with their eyes and think with their feelings.

[@birifuentes1796]

Powerful statement very true

[@greggrant502]

I've missed hearing about your band and your faith. I was watching your group and saw you live several times. I was working as a resource officer in the public school system. Your music in the first albums helped me so much in my work and dealing with all of the problems of the day. God allowed me to talk about God, faith, and what I saw as truth. It was amazing doing the work Whew, I'm retired now and don't see anyone doing the work I did or anyone doing the Christian work much at all. God bless you all trying to share the truth. As you are saying, no one reads or knows the bible it seems. I'm 62 and my time has passed working with the youth and it hurts to see everyone so lost. I still pray and read the word and I thank God for folks like you all.

[@firefalcon9368]

currently, only watched 15 minutes of this, and, i already can say this is common sense from a common man. spot on

[@alicia4899]

I had to delete Tik tok. It was so depressing to see so many “progressive Christians” encouraging so many lies and so many were so hopeless. Very sad to see so many lost and wanting to be accepted by a Holy God AND by the world.

[@garrettsasser4565]

That's why I got rid of instagram and Facebook. Stinks that I unfollowed so many sites because of the nonbiblical garbage.

[@alicia4899]

@@garrettsasser4565 I also got rid of those too and have goals of working on real life relationships more. For a long time I tried to believe I could help others by commenting and being encouraging but some, if not most, people really do not want to hear it. And also it’s extremely difficult having a conversation based on truth and love with limited characters in comments but God will use us even outside SM in REAL life, in real conversations and those who are better at being influential online for Gods glory through Jesus Christ will do Gods will and it’s ok. I do miss it though. Parts were very entertaining but mostly it was hurting my soul and causing more depression and it was not helping myself having any social media. So it’s all good! Moving forward for Gods glory. ❤️

[@garrettsasser4565]

@@alicia4899 lol I was the opposite. I would crush those peasants lol. The possibility of doing harm was too great I had to cut it out. Life's better without it..... And look at me here commenting on stuff. 🤦🏼‍♂️🤣🤣

[@alicia4899]

@@garrettsasser4565 I know 🙈 my excuse is as long as I use KZbin to keep learning GOOD things. Not garbage.

[@garrettsasser4565]

@@alicia4899 no Facebook, ig, netflix, or tv i feel like I live in the old days plus KZbin. It's crazy, but I'm learning how much free time I really have. Lol it's great.

[@Virtueosity]

My God, its sooo refreshing to hear this. I agree and feel like too many so called "believers" are not standing up for righteousness. Too scared to be persecuted. They'd rather be accepted by all and deny Jesus. God is not a weak, passive God, he's Almighty! Time for us to stand up and not be ashamed of the gospel! Bless you all! Lets Go!!!

[@shawnskeard2054]

It is not that simple jesus died as an enemy of the state not the son of god simply saying a name is not standing for anything the church became so corrupt that the name jesus has become synonyms with ppl be turned away from God I don't need to say the word jesus to lead people to God I've never even read the Bible but some fuckin how I ended up living the God damn thing and I'm not a christian I've literally been to heaven with dozens of others and it was damn empty no humans around only God and the throngs were there to great us I had to choose from finally being safe after years of torment and waging war because my actions as a child led to me being forsaken as a child I tried to kill God because there was a war to be fought and I was the only won that made it to the battlefield at 12 years old I took a stand to try a protect what I chershed and your ppl think you know what a real man is when you got children out here fighting your battles for you and God was the only thing around and he would not help I didn't understand why he wouldn't help so I attacked him and to be clear here the same power thats in God is in all of us the only thing that separates God from man is God can choose weather or not it exists God is Creation we are a product of creation I was gonna hit him and he was gonna feel it make that clear the only thing that stoped me was when I got close enough to look in his eyes I saw the pain in them was no different then mine and he wanted me to do it...... I can't do this anymore you guys man I can't believe how far down we are

[@shawnskeard2054]

I found God clutching a razor blade he said look at the fuckin mess they made they would trade they're hearts if it were made of gold but they are as worthless as the souls they sold

[@justyouraverageyoutubeacco256]

It's not that they're scared, it's that they disagree with you.

[@ibealion1]

@@shawnskeard2054 Thank God He isn't like that at all... hopefully one day before you die you see the true God.

[@chbears07]

I don’t believe they left the faith, they were never of the faith.

[@joecitizen6405]

Not true. There were 10 virgins 5 let the oil burn out of their lamps. Sadly many are called but in the end few continue to follow. We have a responsibility to stay in the spirit.

[@chbears07]

@@joecitizen6405 Jesus does not lose any of his sheep. He is the good shepherd.

[@joecitizen6405]

That I am sure feels good to say. But is not scriptural. God gives us free will. The scripture is repleat with those that have followed and fallen away. Its a relationship. We have to continue to build it and work on it. Yes Christ will always follow to save us as a good shepard, but if we keep running and ignoring the spirit that is on us. The parable of the seed is also another that says there will be those that accept but wither. That is Christs own words. Both examples are. The virgins and the seeds.

[@joecitizen6405]

I may be wrong, if I am please show me a scripture that says once saved always saved so that I do not continue in error.

[@reflecthim]

@@joecitizen6405 we can do nothing to earn salvation, it is a gift. Why then would we be able to lose it? Once God has caused rebirth, if true conversion, stemming from repentance, and regeneration has occurred God does not take that life from us. That said, if true regeneration has occurred the sign of it will be the fruit of the spirit. The sign that there is life, is that there will be growth. Blessings brother.

[@veganc5028]

Skillet is an amazingly talented band. Their songs are so good. Thanks for having John on your show.

[@nelsonsantiago651]

May I suggest reading Francis Schaefer’s book, “How Should We Then Live”, and also his Christian Manifesto. He predicted this would happen in the 1970’s.

[@alstroemeria227again4]

He actually has “How Then Shall We Live” on video. It available on Amazon. It was so eye opening.

[@vshrum]

💯

[@kristyt6318]

Thank you for the recommendation!

[@jasongillis1336]

Schaefer was a gift! He also wrote a little booklet call "The new super spirituality" which is also excellent! Read up💯

[@thinkagain2033]

Great Book. Christian Manifesto is a must read as well.

[@maxmustermann1206]

What is happening to Christianity? "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us." 1 John 2:19 So people like Joshua Harris and the guy from Hawk Nelson were never Christians in the first place. But for the true Christian: "...He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus."

[@koakat4340]

They put Jesus up on a shelf and He is gathering dust. In His place they looked to corruption and greedy politicians to get their agendas met. "Charachter" means nothing to them anymore as long as they have found their golden calf. How did that work out for them???? Their Messiah just got impeached. They didn't stay true to JC, they didn't stay in their lane and the consequences will be that they will lose their tax free status and be taxed for the businesses they really are. They are no longer a moral authority of anything, too busy buying their guns. Karma.

[@CJJuyt23]

Joshua Harris never even went to Bible college, which all pastors dont necessarily need to, but the fact that a 21 year old virgin was leading the purity movement is a joke. I remember our youth paster saying that his book was pure trash. People should have stopped listening to that guy when his second book described 'dating with a purpose'

[@rogerringold616]

Exactly

[@cookandcleanmotivation]

I can totally relate to John's testimony!! I was saved when I was 4 from my sister, and got baptized at I believe 5 or 6. I have always been a Christ follower, and never fell off from the Lord either, although I definitely have had some struggles. Love him, and their music!!

[@liamfr7918]

Wow its crazy how much you can see God through John, you can feel God's peace over him. And even in concerts when they are up there head banging you can still feel God's peace and presence all over him

[@kellydawson2988]

“Why aren’t you saying what you said 10 years ago?!” WOKE Pastors, “I’ve been enlightened” John’s response to all this, “Make pastors uncool again.”

[@joshyazel1200]

I always thought my dad was uncool 🤣🤣

[@johntorres6566]

I actually fond this inspiring

[@GabrielMartinez-sd8pc]

I think a lot of these “leaders” are placing more emphasis on church growth and attendance than preaching the message. If they can get people in with watered down Christianity then they will do that.

[@ladyesther]

Yes.

[@williamruiz1453]

This is so very very true!

[@kaitlyn4337]

Unfortunately so true

[@joncilbonk9801]

Forget thr message, the issue is with the individual. Churches no longer condescend to give self-sacrificing love to people and help them through their problems, and that's exactly why Im staying with mine, because they did that.

[@phairplaigh]

That's why God will judge his house 1st when he returns

[@davidbrock4104]

Good to hear someone promote Shelby Steele, he's a courageous man standing up to his critics. Props to John Cooper for standing up for truth

[@shellyt7173]

Excellent stuff. And I’ve been a Skillet fan from the beginning; it’s easy to believe their words/lyrics when you know stage crews who affirm, these guys/gals are the real deal, and they love like Jesus. I’m proud John studied and now shared what God showed him. Great interview!