Cultish: The World Mission Society Church of God (Part 2)

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[@destinysuhr8319]

I feel that GOD wanted to have me watch these videos!! My mom wanted me to get baptized in that church and it didnt feel right inside to me and i thank u for giving out those verses to show her she’s being brain washed!!

[@gavin_hill]

Anh Sahng-Hong is a man not god. He turned from the truth of scripture. A man of adultery and a slave to his own deception. He never claimed to he god, he falsely claimed to be elijah. He was a man, and a sinner. He was born of man and woman. He died and was buried in the ground. We know what God says about man - Ecclesiastes 3:20 Meanwhile the Lord God, the true and living is forever - Isaiah 43:10 There is no other. And the *only* name given among men for salvation Acts 4:12 Jesus Christ.

[@destinysuhr8319]

@@gavin_hill your so so right ... right now I’m not talking to my mom because I didn’t want to join her Church they believe the only way to get to get to heaven is by keeping the Passover and that there is a heavenly mother and father and I showed her many verses in the Bible that it says there is only one god no body else

[@gavin_hill]

@@destinysuhr8319 And are you now a Christian friend?

[@destinysuhr8319]

@@gavin_hill yes I am 🧎‍♀️🙏🏼

[@gavin_hill]

@@destinysuhr8319 Praise God for your testimony sister! Ihope you have a great day

[@SusanLMcGee]

I'd love for Mike to do a teaching on the dangers of the Masonic cult.

[@juancontreras9745]

My brother just got confronted by them last night and it was the first time we’ve ever heard of them they invited him to their Bible study on “true prophecy” on the sabbath.

[@santiagodestene]

God is not the author of confusion he is our father and only God

[@jordanjohnson9415]

Had a great conversation with one of their “preachers” named Dominic in Walmart yesterday. Please pray that I may meet him again and continue our conversation.

[@jummyjohn]

I was approached last Sunday at a Wal-Mart. Never knew such existed. I couldn't go indepth with the lady so i got her info so we can have further conversation. Will be meeting soon. I checked KZbin for videos discussion about them and Mike videos and this (part 1 inclusive) popped up. I couldn't be more excited. This is a great tool for discussion. Thank you Mike and Cultish (Apologia Studio).

[@julianaallen8477]

How did it go.. from what I've heard they are very good at evading questions. I've been approached 3 times. Now I carry a piece of paper with Mike winger wmscog.. your in a cult.

[@jummyjohn]

@@julianaallen8477 She canceled. I literally was waiting for her at a Starbucks and she didn't show up. She later called to have the discussion over the phone but I told her I want us to meet in person. I wouldnt know if that was a missed opportunity to talk over the phone 🤷🏽‍♀️.

[@arazieal1084]

I lost my faith for about 2 years after leaving them only now coming back to the bible and God

[@EthanStrick]

These people approached me at the mall late last year. One of the most strange and uncomfortable conversations I've ever had.

[@IkieseP]

Was approached and given an invitation to come to a " Bible study"....went on the website to check beliefs etc .. IMMEDIATE NOPE!!!

[@Live.Life.Restored]

Sis...same thing happened to me. Immediately NO! I know my Bible and my Savior and that ain't it!

[@noahmossey8970]

I was approached by this cult as well on my university campus in Canada a few years ago. It was definitely a strange experience

[@hansa9159]

I got approached this past week at the University of Manitoba. He said he was a theology student studying there.

[@puppetguy64]

There’s a large building in Colton ca , where I often go for work. Which is why I looked this up. I enjoy Mike’s ministry. I might study up on this, I was raised in the mormon church, and received salvation at 27… I’ve taught Childrens Church for 30 years, and I’m more an evangelist than an apolgetisist however, whenever the LDS missionaries ask to share with us, as I invite them to sit down my wife always walks by and tells them “ He’s been waiting.”… perhaps I’ll get lucky and meet some.

[@richardcinco571]

This series is awsome. I came in contact with them here in deer park texas they took me in there church gave me Bible studies and my friend studies etc... but I would question them alot and they didnt like it lol couldnt find alot of stuff on them then so when came across this this is good!

[@FirstLast-ir9tx]

Act 5:38-39 Your words cannot hinder the Will of God. Godblessyou~

[@jl4155]

Amen :)) if it is not of God it will fail

[@John-sw2jv]

Thanks for the study you put into this. I took in as much knowledge as I could. Took some notes. My wife just came home yesterday and said her regular nail lady, was talking to her about going to this church. She told her I love studying the Bible and set up an appointment to go speak with her. I'm hoping she's not totally brain washed yet. My wife thinks her whole family is involved. I'm pretty sure they're Korean. Say your prayer for me and also I live in Queen Creek so I think they go to Glendale Church.

[@TalibanTV]

They came to my apt door a couple hours ago & almost got me he did like a 20 min bible study I thought he was Cristian but I was dead wrong , I mean I went to church with my mom when I was young but haven’t been in 8-9 years , I thought they where Christian n wanted to do a quick bible study , he had to be using a fake bible or some or just switched the verses around cause he put it in a way it sounded real but he left a lot out about they’re beliefs now I see he wanted me to get baptized asap and kept asking even said he could call a minister and baptize me in my living room , after watching this I’m shocked cause they almost got me & I do not need this rn 😭 I only got the name of the church from the address he sent me too get baptized at , they didn’t tell me its name …thank u god ❤️

[@jesusweisbrod9041]

Dear brothers: Can you please do a video on a Hispanic worldwide church called "La Luz Del Mundo"(The light of the world), they are approximately 7,000,000 worldwide. Their "apostle" is actually sitting in the Los Angeles county jail facing charges of child pornography (Nasson Joaquin Garcia). But the members still follow him and the church wholeheartedly, my aunt being one of them. Personally, I have looked into their heretical even blasphemous doctrine which not only denies the trinity, but claims that Jesus and the father are separate beings, and that the church of Christ failed, so their "apostle" was chosen to re-establish the true church. I however don't have a voice, or platform such as you do, but if you could look into them and expose them it would help many, many people. God bless you my brothers.

[@jsparks32]

I wish I could find a PDF or E-Book file of the green book original (including the two chapters removed) so I could study and find the right questions to speak to the members that have been approaching me at my local walmart. If anyone has any links let me know, because the women I spoke to the other day seemed very sweet and I'd like to help her, by softly planting the seeds of doubt and then if it grows helping her get out.

[@The_Word_Is_The_Way]

If it wete to be posyed online, the WMSCOG would likely tey to take legal action to have it removed.

[@MuMu-fu7qe]

Yay Mike Winger is my guy

[@mummylilbear6088]

Thank you for saving me. I have just join not long ago 😢

[@Katie.JesusIsKing]

Love both Apologia Studios & Pastor Mike Winger. This is an awesome collab about something I never knew of.

[@christinecross9123]

This was very helpful about a cult I didn't know existed. Thank you.

[@arazieal1084]

Funny thing is if "god the mother" was God then she be omnipotent know who you are without being introduced

[@daphnehass5116]

See my fiance brought me into this church and the members are very shallow and believe that we must suffer happy for the sake of suffering for the sacrifice that Father and Mother supposedly suffered for us. The problem with this is that I have PTSD from abuse as a child and from my exhusband before I became a member so to not be able to confide or talk to anyone or be allowed to have friends is hard . The belief is that friends will corrupt us and we have to carry our burdens ourselves and with out a mind of complaint and that for what ever sin we committed in heaven we deserve hellish lives on earth and should seek joy in suffering here on earth.

[@SSPspaz]

I know your comment is a couple years old, but I pray that you and your fiancé have found the strength to leave WMSCOG and find true peace and forgiveness in a relationship with Jesus.

[@mktward]

I ran into one of their members in Walmart, heard of them once or twice, but that was my first encounter. These videos help a lot to understand their arguments.

[@SusanLMcGee]

The people in the word of faith movement act the same way. You can never "confess" any problems because you are supposed to ONLY make a positive confession I tried to ask for help with depression and was told to believe more, to read my Bible, and to love Jesus. Then I was publicly embarrassed in a Sunday school class for taking antianxiety medications.

[@ievac4539]

I'm in korea rn and was approached by a young woman from this cult. She said she was doing a "research" for a university course and started preaching about the motherly god. When she found out I'm an atheist, she left me alone lmao I'm quite interested in cults so while doing research i came across this video. I grew up in a catholic household so her arguments about the genesis 1:26 were questionable straight up, but it was interesting to hear about the cult in depth

[@joshuabetinis]

Great video, thanks to you guys 💎

[@sitcomchristian6886]

Psalm 5:9-10 For there is no truth in their mouth; their inmost self is destruction; their throat is an open grave; they flatter with their tongue. Make them bear their guilt, O God; let them fall by their own counsels; because of the abundance of their transgressions cast them out, for they have rebelled against You.

[@kariont]

Join the conversation on Reddit r/WMSCOG and r/Antiwmscog. Memes, testimonials, and articles.

[@jacobsmith568]

Liked the video its interesting to see him on this show after being discussed on the dividing line so many times 😅

[@winfieldgross5672]

Ran into then at my local Mall yesterday. First I ever heard of them.

[@VVeremoose]

"Where there are children, there are always mothers" If I form a clay pot (Jeremiah 18), what can the pot learn about me from examining itself? Well, it can learn that it is mostly silicone. So I must be mostly silicone. It can learn that it is completely inert. So I must be inert. Clearly we can see that a creation looking at itself to learn physical realities about its creator is a totally valid analogy /s

[@8Platinum8]

doesnt make that church true- just cuz theyre on to something mainstream christians are to cowardly to consider

[@joelouh7975]

Hello all, important message for salvation: In 1 corinthians 14:11, Paul said "If, then, I do not know the meaning of someone’s language, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and he is a foreigner to me." and it's the same thing for God, because The VERY IMPORTANT thing in Christ for us to produce good fruit according to the spirit of God is to first understand his language, because God has a specific language in his Word (the Bible). And if we don't know this God's language, we are foreigners to him. To have the thought of God, we have to let the scriptures translate the scriptures, we Don't have to think by ourselves, This is the only right way. I give you an example: The simple phrase "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son" In our human thoughts we understand "God loves everyone, the whole planet", however, God hates sin and bible says "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world" (1 john 2:15). But if we give the explanation letting the scriptures translate the scriptures it's clearer: In Matthew 13:38 Jesus said " The field is the world" In 1 corinthians 3:9 Paul told the disciples "you are God’s field" We understand here that world God so loved is his disciples, that he has chosen and known in advance in order to become vases of blessing (romans 8:29) That's why Paul said "the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world" (galatians 6:14), because all the disciples of Christ are crucified with Christ "I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me" (galatians 2:20). Disciples=the world loved by God. And in this field, in this disciple world, you have the good disciples, the wheat. But the false disciples (false apostle, false pastor…) have been sowned by the enemy while the night. Only the wheat, the good disciples, disciples who respect the will of God have Holy Spirit, and Eternal Life. The others walk by their own thought, human thought, while believing worship the Lord. Now, if we keep in our mind that God loves everyone, the whole planet, and if we repeat this human thought to other people, we become liars and false witnesses to God because we don't tell the thought of God but our personal thought. See, it's very simple, letting the Word translate the Word to have God thought. God spoke this specific language by his prophets, it's the language of similitudes. "I have also spoken unto the prophets, and I have multiplied visions; and by the ministry of the prophets have I used similitudes" (hosea 12:10). And he used this langage by the disciples too. However, the whole Bible was written by the prophets and disciples and is written in similitudes. It is therefore to be translated. That's why Paul ask preachers to reveal mysteries of Christ (1 corinthians 4:1). To know God's language is to know God and to be known by him. "The revelation of your words brings light and gives understanding to the inexperienced." (psalm 119:130), and having understanding is having life: "Give me understanding, and I will live." (psalm 119:144). God bless you all!

[@paulhallett1452]

They should call this channel: heresies against heretics

[@CW4_Craig_Colean]

I love what you guys do and Great Life Studios do great coverage as well

[@AKhardcore1]

It's Great Light Studios

[@robinmirick9508]

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

[@arazieal1084]

As a former member they observe the 7 feasts and the scripture they used to back it up is because Jesus was the High priest. HEB 4:14-16, Heb 7:12. Because change in the high priest so does the law. They will say since Jesus is High Priest he only changed the passover to the new covenant passover and how we worship to in spirit and truth. Since those were only thing he changed about the law then as Christians we still need to observe the 7 feasts.

[@emopunkrockerepr]

How do I get help if I've been contacted by someone who is a member of that church?

[@sweetgumballcandy]

Yesss

[@mummylilbear6088]

Did you get out? How did you do it? Asking for myself 😢

[@isaiahforba7733]

Now this is gonna be hot.

[@janet183]

We are to be sanctified by the word which is TRUTH, John 17:17 the Bible is the WORD of God ....John 14:15 if you love me keep my commandment. We need to pray for people in these cults ...

[@ainsleekirk706]

Hi what is your take on the 144,000 always seemed to referenced in the bible?

[@Kikuye]

Because of COVID, the Jehovah Witnesses in my area, literally seemed to have gotten a phone book or looked on line or something and wrote handwritten letters to people (with a pamphlet and their website written in the letter) in the area, explaining that they weren't able to visit due to COVID (Mine was in spanish but that much I could read/figure out). It was interesting to see that.

[@debrekahsimms9256]

I was approached by this cult on my college campus just before I graduated and was four months from leaving for seminary college. They were not banking on me knowing scripture very well and every time that they tried to confront me with scripture and I would interpret it they were tell me that my interpretation was dead wrong. When I would say that the bridegroom was Jesus and the church was his bride I was told no that is not correct. They also wouldn’t take the fact that I said I was saved as truth.

[@robinedwards8796]

They're going door to door now. They came to my door 3 hours ago. Two females who looked Mormon except no name tags or tablets.

[@tommybobby7804]

Quick question for someone. What is your opinion on the Vatican having libraries and documents that are kept from the public? Isn't the church supposed to make God's word available to everybody?

[@Yesica1993]

God's Word is the Bible. Anything to say on the content of this video?

[@brotherjohnnyxXxX]

God hasn't said a word! The apostles did! And you believed them!

[@janet183]

@@brotherjohnnyxXxX please read your Bible 1 Peter 1:20 -21 But know this first of all that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God ...please read Peter and right after this in chapter is the Rise of false Prophets ..have arose among the people just as there will also be false teachers among you who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them bringing swift destruction upon themselves..

[@brotherjohnnyxXxX]

@@janet183 How do you know that those men were moved by the holy spirit spoke from god? And why should i care what the bible says?

[@mariosangermano5709]

@@janet183 Brother johnny is not truly a brother in Christ. His beliefs about the bible prove he is still in darkness and dead in trespasses and sin. Pray for his salvation.

[@SamcoB1]

I am being approached by some for bible study and will do my best to share the real gospel..... anyone any tips?

[@scotthix2926]

14:00, good reason to have a 1,000 foot view of Bible

[@brittanydawn5359]

They showed up at my door and asked me to join their studies. Participating in bible study for quite some time I knew their teachings were very different. What I thought was very odd was that fact that they did not pray before and after study . Everything sounded like a script. Jesus Christ feeed us from the law when he died on the cross for our sins. Their doctrine is of the Old Testament and they are worshiping false gods. I pray for the members.

[@theway7316]

uh where is the link???

[@IntrovertedArteest]

None of the links the guest spoke about are in the description. Disappointing.

[@jesuschristbiblebiblestudy]

Amen

[@jde-jj1lu]

Wasn't mike refuted by James White?

[@stephaniedavis4141]

Could you probably talk on the Church of almighty God perhaps maybe thank you , they are a Chinese group

[@mummylilbear6088]

How do u get out?

[@brich2542]

The Mormons used the same process to develop the notion that God has a wife.

[@marysunshine2027]

@@billyr9162 what do you mean he had a wife

[@maknife2520]

@@marysunshine2027 Mormons believe that we were all spiritually begotten by heavenly mothers and Heavenly Father! So God the Father has a wife... actually wives!

[@JB---]

Walter Martin? I thought Hank Hanegraaff was the Bible Answer Man and ran the Christian Research Institute.

[@swadams2]

Walter Martin was his predecessor.

[@JB---]

@@swadams2 Oh, ok. Thank you!

[@rucka704]

John 6:53 "Jesus the Bread of Life …52 At this, the Jews began to argue among themselves, “How can this man give us His flesh to eat?” 53 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh and drink the blood of the Son of Man, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day." "JEREMIAH 31:31 “That’s right. The time is coming when I will make a brand-new covenant with Israel and Judah. It won’t be a repeat of the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took their hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt. They broke that covenant even though I did my part as their Master.” God’s Decree." "Luke 22:20 The Last Supper …19 And He took the bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body, given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 20 In the same way, after supper He took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is poured out for you." "John 6:49 Jesus the Bread of Life …48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. 50 This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that anyone may eat of it and not die." "Revelation 2:17 17 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who overcomes, I will give the hidden manna. I will also give him a white stone inscribed with a new name, known only to the one who receives it." "2 Kings 23:21-35 Josiah Restores the Passover 21 And the king commanded all the people, “Keep the Passover to the Lord your God, as it is written in this Book of the Covenant.” 22 For no such Passover had been kept since the days of the judges who judged Israel, or during all the days of the kings of Israel or of the kings of Judah. 23 But in the eighteenth year of King Josiah this Passover was kept to the Lord in Jerusalem. 24 Moreover, Josiah put away the mediums and the necromancers and the household gods and the idols and all the abominations that were seen in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem, that he might establish the words of the law that were written in the book that Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the Lord. 25 Before him there was no king like him, who turned to the Lord with all his heart and with all his soul and with all his might" 36 "Matthew 22:36-40 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the first and greatest commandment." " "Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother." The Passover is the key to the heart of the Lord and to say he doesn't care about it is blasphemy!

[@brotherjohnnyxXxX]

Is God willing to stop evil, but unable? Then he is not powerful! Is he able but unwilling? Then he is not good! Is he both able and willing? Then how can there be evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Than why call him God?

[@brotherjohnnyxXxX]

Numbers 31:1-18 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the woman children that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

[@Wishyouwerehere435]

Skeptics Annotated Bible (among other free thinker books) helped me be free. Thank goodness. WMSCOG is a really bad church. I lost a son to them. It took that loss for me to gain the courage to challenge religion on all fronts. I thought I would find my true religion. Instead all I found was poor arguments. I am thankful to Mike for fighting back but do not agree that Atheist arguments fall apart. Quite the contrary.

[@Ironica82]

What is your definition of evil?

[@brotherjohnnyxXxX]

@@Ironica82 The God of the bible

[@Ironica82]

@@brotherjohnnyxXxX You have failed to define evil. You cannot just give an example of what you think is evil without defining what you mean by evil.

[@TernaryM01]

17:04 "Confidence in their skepticism" Oh, the irony...

[@jaredfrye5371]

"Our imageness is not about gender." - Mike Winger. ...cancelled!

[@kramsdrawde8159]

we are ignoring the "MYSTERY BABYLON" CONNECTION ...ie the mother baby gods...Semiramis , & Tammuz of Babylon, iris & horus of Egypt , artemis and Adonis of greek , and Chandra and Krishna of India ….NOT A NEW IDEA OF MOTHER & SON DIETIES IT IS AS OLD AS HE TOWER OF BABEL...

[@justinwestlake3554]

Watch Spencer Smith much? Lol

[@Amgirl03]

I do appreciate the video and find it helpful but according to Zechariah 14, Matthew 5... we will be keeping the feasts...so the passover is important but it isn't salvation because Yahushua saves but the feasts will be required in New Jerusalem when Yahushua reigns and everyone that is there will have to observe them...

[@paulhallett1452]

Around the 10:00 minute mark there was some talk of confession to an elder “mediator” - what?! That’s straw man popery! But prods advocating it!

[@Disciple_sXe]

They be at the malls and Walmarts that’s where I encountered these dudes I ran into them 3 times. I just seen them yesterday at Walmart

[@rudyfromhouston8811]

Dude what is the deal with the all seeing eye tattoo on this guys chest man?? I mean why would you get that? Ok supposing that he got it done before his conversion, still, why would you wear the v-neck and parade it on a CHRISTIAN PODCAST!??? whats up with that ??

[@Yesica1993]

What on earth are you talking about? Anything to say on the good work of exposing a cult that seems to be new on the scene & has little info on it?

[@LK2.O]

You wouldn't be judging on outward appearance would you?

[@brotherjohnnyxXxX]

Leviticus 19:28 You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: i am the Lord "of fear mongering"

[@LK2.O]

1 John 1:9: If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness

[@kyleharris9456]

“And when Jesus heard it, he said to them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners.”” ‭‭Mark‬ ‭2:17‬ ‭

[@dalehandley5078]

What is with this programs obsession with Walter Martin? The idea of quoting someone is normal but the obsession with this man is just what I said Obsession.

[@kramsdrawde8159]

just another sda cult.... there has been many !!!

[@marshall886]

Yeah, I don't think they are all that harmful. When I look around I see people are not interested in religious observation. They wears suits and ties and in women they wear veils. The church just feels ultra-conservative and legalistic, meaning for most liberal secular people they are not going to find anything that is interesting or appealing to them.Thanks.

[@paulhallett1452]

They should call this channel: heresies against heretics