Cursed City, Necromunda, and a load of the usual Waffle

[@mlys7184]

Peachy's departure from GW was a blessing in disguise

[@scottkat2327]

"For a plant in a pot to grow bigger, it must be repotted" - Some guy named Christopher :p

[@newgamer85]

You think he has to use peachy because the GW legal team own his real name and his 1st born.

[@GamemasterGiff]

🦋

[@AdamCarr]

For sure! Hearing about the Cursed City debacle is really interesting. @Peachy - i'm surprised your not still under NDA!

[@wellywoodwargaming]

100%

[@AoSCoach]

1000% the worst thing about Cursed City was lack of communication. We were in the middle of a pandemic, we would be understanding…

[@thepaintingphase]

Very well said, 100% agree

[@benstehn]

Processed by the Ministry of Truth.

[@AoSCoach]

@@Handedamagnum you alternatively could say “the demand for X product exceeded initial expectation and we’re working on a plan to meet the customer demands with a new allotment”.

[@RedGeist]

This is a delightful podcast. I'm glad you've found a new home post-Workshop, Peachy. Best wishes in the new year.

[@WarhammerGeek]

Blackstone Fortress had a bunch of cool expansions. There was the Technoarcheologist that recently was announced to be getting a general release, an additional rogue trader that never got a general release, and a bunch of updated models that also never got general releases. An updated Primaris Psyker, Crusader, Sevitor, a ZOAT! A few of them did end up in a Barnes and Noble boxed game but that was also limited both in the time it was available and in countries that had access.

[@dazir_solo_board_gaming3840]

Can you post an official link to the Zoat info? I am after the Deadly Alliance expansion (for some unreasonable price) as this is the only one I haven't got.

[@WarhammerGeek]

@@dazir_solo_board_gaming3840 What info are you looking for? Warhammer Community had a bunch of articles leading up to its release.

[@Blayze]

What boxed game was that?

[@WarhammerGeek]

@@Blayze Combat Arena. They actually have a new version out but now it's a Necron and three Space Marines.

[@burnbobquist8999]

@@WarhammerGeek Yeah the old box was stellar, the new one is shallower... sadly.

[@Loathlytower]

This has quickly become my top podcast/video to listen to whilst painting.

[@lordspacecowboy17]

This discussions have become one of my favorite part of KZbin. It’s just like hanging out with my friends and talking about warhammer, only you all know what you’re talking about. The bit with the accents is very true. I speak the President’s English and I find I cannot model for the first 15 minutes of the video until I can understand what’s being said!

[@thepaintingphase]

That’s great to hear but I definitely don’t know what I’m talking about on any level - Geoff

[@rugbymeat]

Just love seeing these chats pop up into my feed. The Necromunda stuff sounds like a great avenue for you guys to explore!

[@superego13itch]

Loved the focus on Necromunda in this episode. It's a game my mate and I have only recently gotten into - he went with Cawdor and I've gone with Delaque. Given how Delaque are all bald, I took inspiration from the criminally underloved Alien 3 and named my gang the Echoes of Fiorina (named after the planet the prison is on in the movie). My mate bought STL files that let you make nameplates for your bases so I've named the gangers after the male characters from the movie and they all have their nameplates. We've only played one game and thankfully nobody died but it's going to happen and I'm dreading it! Just need to get them painted now! Really really enjoyed this episode and I'm waiting with baited breath for you guys playing Necromunda in the style of Tale of 4 Gamers!

[@johnbeaudoin7820]

Great conversation as always, especially the Cursed City stuff! On the topic of over-designed models, take a look at the GSC Kelermorph kit; he’s standing on a broken pipe, and the INSIDE of the pipe has a moldy skull. Who is this skull for? The Kelermorph is standing on it and he doesn’t even see it!

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

The handling of Cursed City has aggravated me immensely. I understand that shipping & production were thrown a curve at exactly the wrong time, but you can tell your customers that restocks are delayed. Hell, the pandemic provided a perfect excuse for delays.

[@ThePaintingCoach]

Shout out for the Tan Y Castell Welsh Cakes 😄

[@thepaintingphase]

You know it Boyo!

[@ThePaintingCoach]

@@thepaintingphase tidy butt

[@iainaitken8966]

The best 😊

[@sellis5716]

Painting a plague marine while watching this, carefully highlighting every boil, maggot and rivet 😂 I’m in the 25% of Hobbyists that mainly love the painting side and I do appreciate the detail on deathguard, every plague marine is a work of art. 35:41

[@gi1dor]

Totally agree with you, I love details and design, it's one of my favorites parts of the hobby, to find and appreciate small details and story and atmosphere of the model, even if nobody will notice it when I paint it If for someone as for the host it's just a play token, well skip details, it's easy

[@kkouuy]

Someone is definitely going to clip Peachy doing the visual explanation for toothpaste and turn it into a gif 😂

[@thepaintingphase]

Oh nooooo 🤦‍♂️😂

[@WarranHoy]

41:20 Adjusts glasses, I think you'll find it was the Vyper with the first glass canopy.

[@yesmilord2350]

Your guys' round tables have been my favorite KZbin videos to watch since you started them. Awesome stuff. Keep them coming.

[@GermanNightmare1976]

Gentlemen, happy new year! Thanks for the lovely chat, that was very informative and entertaining. Very much looking forward to your videos in 2023.

[@thepaintingphase]

Happy new year!

[@TygonPanthera]

At the risk of providing information that will come later in the video (yes, I'm being naughty and write a comment before I finish watching), Düsseldorf was indeed the location of the HQ of Games Workshop Germany, the Drakenburg. Big store with a big play area (not as big as Warhammer World, but still respectable). Large areas for employee training, organizational stuff, support, mail order and everything. I was working for Games Workshop in Germany at the time, so I had been there a couple of times. But then Games Workshop did away with all the regional HQs (or at least the German one). Bit sad, and I feel like the quality of the German stores did suffer. But that might just be my perception because my local store definitely did go down in quality.

[@jamesv.7041]

Same/similar thing happened in the Chicago area and most of U.S.

[@banhammer7243]

Talking of canopy of vehicles/aircraft, a lot of model aircraft kits have sheets where you peel of sections and stick on so that when you spray the canopy you only hit the frame and not the actual galss.

[@grimmriffer]

About detail and greebles. Both are a help for the novice or busy painter; surface texture responds well to wash and dry brush, and the odd greeble breaks up the silhouette... but yeah, a model covered in very different greebles is a pain. Sculptors should tilt towards texture for rank and file troops; the marine mentioned could have been detailed with cracks, for example, responding well to "regular folk painting".

[@Nubgan]

Great content guys, love the enthusiasm and ideas in all these chats, long may it continue! :D

[@thepaintingphase]

Cheers Boss.

[@mikee6301]

Loving your shows… the banter is fun to listen to and love those inside snippets on what it was like at GW.

[@chad534]

I wanna see you guys rolling some dice with your beautifully painted armies.

[@Sinsabre]

3:11 "Slightly on topic" is the catch phrase of this show. And I wouldn't have it any other way.

[@AlexAttemptsTabletop]

Aw it’s time to binge a few of these chats I’ve saved up to hobby along with. Great job as per 👏🏼

[@captaincosmo6157]

Well actuaaaally first glass canopy was eldar vyper (white dwarf 207). Falcon came out about a year later.

[@thepaintingphase]

Thanks for putting me right, it’s wasn’t the worst good was though, was it? Geoff

[@andrewjamieson7178]

Excellent video, chaps. Particularly loved the bits chatting Cursed City and Necromunda. And here's to Mordheim getting the specialist games treatment! This is easily becoming one of my favourite hobby channels.

[@thepaintingphase]

😍😍😍 thanks Andrew

[@WardenOfTerra]

It was fabulous hearing about Christopher's courting experience. **adjusts monocle**

[@l.christoffersen7502]

36:00 zenithal highlight and contrast paints is what has saved me when painting plague marines, but yes, the one with all the maggots is frustrating especially if you're new to the hobby and prime them in death guard green and then have to block in every single detail.

[@asmcelhinney]

Dunno how I came to this video, but so glad I did. Best 90 mins of hobbysauce I've watched in ages.

[@thepaintingphase]

Thanks so much Alex!

[@TerrierHalo]

I remember playing Necromunda in 96 against a friend and he had those high tech low model count guys, and warned me that it would be quite rough for me since they were so good. I took my Redemptionists and tabled him, still a memory that sticks around. :D

[@TerrierHalo]

….I’ll get around to painting them some day.

[@fantastigruff]

Spyrers! I have a few, but most of them look a bit derpy nowadays. The Redemptionists still look great, though!

[@Roscopackman]

Great stuff gents, very excited for more Necromunda content in the New Year! Ross - Guilders-Ford Radio

[@thepaintingphase]

I listen to your most recent episode, thanks for the mention and it’s a great podcast, I really enjoyed it - Geoff

[@TheMiniatureStudio]

First 10 minutes of this had me in stitches. Thanks a lot, really enjoying the talks. ☺️👍🏻

[@paladinpariah325]

Even the beginning, where there was zero GW discussion, had me glued to my tv. Something fascinating about cultural differences between the UK and the US. That Mordian army sounds awesome and is a very clever idea. I have never understood black rims. They make the bases look unpainted since most bases are black plastic. I use a lot of scenic bases and always paint them whatever color the "scene" should be. Most of them are stone or urban, so I end up with a lot of gray bases.

[@CaptainComatose]

The part discussing pouches on pauldrons reminded me of old British smocks (60s, 70s?) that have this little pocket on one shoulder that is quite hard to access.

[@thepaintingphase]

If I remember rightly wasn’t that the pouch that the field dressing was in and it was to be accessed by the person applying the dressing to you? It was purposely positioned out of the way - Geoff

[@CaptainComatose]

@@thepaintingphase I did not serve in the British army, but that would be an explanation.

[@simonneville3278]

Watching your enthusiasm build for Necromunda towards the end Peachy ... just made me wish we were buddies. 😆

[@CrimsonTusk]

The whole moving board thing for Ash Wastes reminded me of GorkaMorka. There were race missions where you'd move the terrain as well 🤔

[@serdna96]

getting these perspectives on GW and the hobby from someone who spent so much time on the inside is so damn fascinating for real

[@minipaintermatt]

15:00 yes I am kinda lazy when it comes to bases but for the vast majority of stuff I own black base works just nice. Also like peachy said mine are mostly for display so easy and a good reason to keep it black

[@MerlynCooper]

Some nice Welsh cakes on the table as well :D

[@thepaintingphase]

We love us some Cymru snacks.

[@MerlynCooper]

@@thepaintingphase ardderchog!

[@monkeybrain9859]

Good vid, lads. Nice to hear the insight regarding the cursed handling of Cursed City. Bit wounded to hear Belladmma Volga was due to make an appearance in the expansions as that would have made sense within the games plot/progress. Let's hope they don't make an absolute bum of the next WHQ, eh..? Nice one lads, keep up the good work and have a great new year

[@thepaintingphase]

Thanks Mr Brain, have a great one yourself.

[@ianalexander7082]

Props for the pack of Welsh cakes on the table. The snack of kings.

[@tonyhowell201]

Haha, it's always good to open the chat with some Geoffing Mysterons. Great video gang and, by now you probably know that I'm hobbying alongside you for support and a bit of fun with Necromunda 😁

[@dekai7992]

Oof, that sheer, honest frustration in Peachy's eyes when talking about missing out on the Ambull expansion. I felt that. Had the same experience with the No Respite expansion. That one was gone in the blink of an eye, too. Although the Ambull set could be hunted down fairly well until some time in late 2021. Now, though ... A nightmare, as with all the other expansions.

[@gaborboth3602]

If you do the Necromunda stuff, I'd love to see you dedicate some time to themed scenery to your gangs too, building up the headquarters!

[@houseofhairgsy3706]

Love watching these chats. Great to get Peachy’s inside info and the reaction from Geoff as a regular hobbyist. Looking forward to the Necromunda work, it’s my favorite game!

[@kevinr8953]

This is the best hobby content to hit in a very long time imo. So happy o stumbled across y’all. Keep up the great work guys!!

[@thepaintingphase]

Too Kind, Kevin my man too kind.

[@jackcopestake9948]

Another awesome video! Absolutely love these !

[@mw2freak63]

Great show guys love having you on while I'm painting. Mortarians on the table atm keep up the great work!!

[@carlstanford7607]

another great chat lads and very much enjoyed the interview with bob naismith

[@starslayer2438]

Oof, you gave me a couple nostalgia flashbacks with this show. Eldar Falcon clear canopies... useless cockpit details on the Gyrocopter... Necromunda...

[@Solaaris1]

About the board moving..there was a scenario in Gorkamorka that did just that, was great!

[@dannyindevon]

i love your guys' show.. so amazing!

[@gorram]

Happy new year to you all! The Painting Phase has been a highlight of 2022 and I’m looking forward to what you bring in 2023. All the Necromunda talk is very exciting - we’re talking about jumping into the game too. Such an interesting world

[@thepaintingphase]

Happy new year to you and yours as well! We’re very excited about what’s install for the new year, and Necromunda is ace, so I personally can’t wait to get stuck in. All the best Peachy

[@Jacktrauma]

I was definitely sad about getting the custom taken away from us. First born had way more than primaris pose and custom-wise :(

[@Nicolas-yd2mw]

Such a nice show ! I was delighted to ear about Necromunda and how you like this game. Me too i can't live without buying everything... except the cargo ridgehauler.... Keep doing such good shows !

[@thepaintingphase]

Cheers Man.

[@DCUATL]

I spit out my drink about the gyrocopter cockpit. I have one on my workbench and took a picture of all the beautiful detail that will never be seen again. That said, I'm used to details disappearing as a long time modeler. As a wargamer I approach it much slower (2 years and I'm up to 900 pts of KO) but I love all the greeblie bits.

[@mr.moustache.alberta]

I had never been interested in Necromunda until this video. The passion Peachy has for the game is infectious.

[@thepaintingphase]

Ha! Yeah I do like my Necromunda, but wait until I get talking about Warcry…..👀

[@r31n0ut]

The bit about sculptors forgetting it's a wargame speaks to my soul. The cursed city skeletons and the Lumineth spearmen are just SO SPINDLY! how the hell are you supposed to transport those without them bending or just breaking?

[@elphiefanful]

The lumineth pikes are actually incredibly sturdy. You have to go out of your way to damage them.

[@jackwhorton6826]

Magnet on base, metal case or magnetised sheets. Far better than foam. No breakages and far quicker to pack/repack.

[@r31n0ut]

@@jackwhorton6826 That's a good solution, but GW doesn't sell any of that. They clearly want to supply your entire hobby process, but the stuff they sell doesn't work that well together.

[@Randomsquirrel666]

A good example is over detailed standard troops are the newer Orks and Orruks. For something you'd traditionally paint 50+ of there is so many little details or different materials. The standard Beast Snagga boyz for example.

[@jonathancurtis1867]

There were also at least three imperial fist marines recruited from Traizor hive on necromunda (space marine by Ian Watson)

[@williambauer2170]

The way you are describing the Ash waste vehicle scenario sounds like "Da Chase" from GorkaMorka. I might need to look into this for an update version of that,

[@EPGelion]

Probably a result of having watched Peachy for too many years, but I have switched to calling my homemade biscuits scones. I also wish I could find his classic "How to cuppa" from a long ago WH livestream. So much knowledge!

[@christopherwarden1949]

11:51 ‘TIS A PILE OF POTENTIAL!

[@theartfuldodgerer8527]

Oh man, I found so many bits of Into the Dark unnecessarily fiddly to glue! Like, why am I gluing the sole of a boot on!?

[@iainaitken8966]

Great chat, thanks for the kind words. Hope the Welsh cakes went down well. Cheers

[@thepaintingphase]

Cheers bud, they went down a treat, thanks again for sending such a kingly gift.

[@AverageBritishNerd1138]

I'm definitely on board for a narrative Necromunda campaign! I played the OG Necromunda (and still have the Spyrers in a box somewhere), but haven't played it since. However, since the revamped Kill Team, I've been getting more into skirmish gaming, and it'd be nice to have a primer on what it's like now.

[@Marshallo.o]

Lovely to listen to. The Necromunda stuff sounds amazeballs!

[@davydatwood3158]

Well. I'm not American, but I'm also not British, so I appreciated the explanation of a "jammy dodger." Now I know that it, like so many British things, is exactly the same as what we have in Canada but with a weird name. (We call those fruit creme cookies. Some folks call them "French cremes," but that's actually a brand name. They do come in various flavours although raspberry-ish and strawberry-ish are the most common.)

[@AlexMartynwood]

You get my like this week for the random accent chat!

[@lXenn0nl]

I recognize those Welsh Cakes! :D

[@thepaintingphase]

They were bloody lovely.

[@Ennio444]

6:00 "Where is this going?" "nah, it doesn't go there, that's a different story" Everyone, now, waiting for the story :)

[@thepaintingphase]

Me too!

[@dwadland]

Looking forward to seeing what you can do with your Necromunda gangs. Awesome game.

[@carlh8731]

Great video, I remember the Works having so many copies of Space Hulk and wanting to buy multiple copies to do a First company force.

[@aerlands100]

I really appreciate getting a little more of GW's perspective from Peachy on things like what happened to Cursed City (a favorite of mine, but a perplexing saga from start to finish!). I'd love some of Peachy's perspective on other things like what GW's ultimate plans are for Primaris and Firstborn. Are there plans to consolidate data sheets and just let all marines models "count as" the newer primaris ones? It's what I'm doing anyway, but I'm just curious if it's something GW has official plans for or not.

[@stephencunniffe823]

I would definitely buy Blackstone Fortress! It's a solid set with some beautiful models. The limited run was the worst for Blackstone so it's good to hear it wasn't just me who hated that aspect of it.

[@prdalien0]

Been painting blood angels recently for someone and took a look through that painting guide from like 2014. GAH, it's amazing, nearly 200 pages about the 1st, 2nd and death company as well as background about them. I think it was kinda covered before when talking about making colour schemes but I'm curious how the guides like that one were done. Do the writers and artists come up with everything first and then the painters have to assemble the models to match their vision or did the painters get free rein to make and paint everything with the lore getting added after? And on that note this might be a space marine specific question but how much input did painters get to have on things like honour markings, banners or any other kind of unique detail that has to be painted on, like were painters able to create any of their own?

[@julesavery4105]

Nice to see Tan y Castell products on screen. :-)

[@thepaintingphase]

Yes, we’re very cultured when it comes to our snacks.

[@nicholasgk]

This would be a great group to watch enjoy necromunda!

[@DavidCuthbertson]

Great episode as usual, gents! And this is the first time I’m finding out the Mighty Brush Raptor decals are all gone. Jeez GW. 😢 Thankfully I’ve not started them yet, but I guess I’ll have to come up with a new Chapter badge for my force!

[@PewpewFiah]

I know everyone mentions this, and there's some definite shady shenanigans going on in the space. But the elephant in the room here is 3D Printing. 3D Printing an entire plate of shoulderpads is currently possible, as for example printing an entire 'Battle Brother'; so torso/legs, helmet and weapon, costs about 15p in resin. You cannot tell me, regardless of how much the sculptors are paid, that making those as Made to Order Resin, couldn't be 10 Shoulderpads in a box for 5 Pound each and STILL not make money. Hell the made to order could be done in the bloody shop! It's absolute madness.

[@Mrog200]

The toothpaste story reminds me of many situations I've been in. I live in China and can mostly get about now, but when I first moved over I couldn't speak much. So many times miming things or trying to explain what it is. 'Do you have the thing to clean your teeth? Not the brush, the white stuff' 'Do you have a machine for toasting bread?' 'Do you have a tooth brush for your hair?' 'Do you have the brown/yellow drink with bubbles for parties? Children can't drink it'

[@thepaintingphase]

Lol. That’s brilliant- Geoff

[@stuartralphson539]

Use to play OG Necromunda with my best friend who also played against his older brother who took it less seriously so one of his gangers had a hatred of "Sour Cream" after one recovery role

[@AuthorSurrogate]

Man, talking about OOP transfers sheets hits me deep right now. I’m looking at doing a Solar Auxilia Heresy army after I finish my Blood Angels project and that transfer sheet is loooooooong gone.

[@porcu12345]

Am I seeing Tan Y Castell Welshcakes on the desk? Not the first snack I'd expect to find on the desk of 3 Englishmen! Just got to the end of the video and yes they are!

[@thepaintingphase]

There’s a best friend who’s Welsh, there’s a girlfriend who Welsh and there’s Welsh viewers sending us Welsh delights. We’re definitely down with Cymru!

[@MelkorBauglir25]

Being from Germany with a retired English teacher in the family, and speaking/listening to English at a very early age, i have absolutely no Problem to understand the specific dialects.

[@thepaintingphase]

Phew!

[@komma8203]

The best glue for glueing clear acrylic bits are in my opinion the E6000 glue, its industrial glue that dont make fogging on clear plastic, its super strong, and there are company selling it in tiny tubes so you dont have to buy a industrial size, like greenstuffworld and pk-pro

[@thepaintingphase]

Thanks for the tip, I’ll definitely bear that in mind.

[@teessidetyrants1989]

My Orlocks are named after Peep Show Characters. So I Rusty Mark, Dancing Jez and my heavy stub gun wielding road sergeant is Super Hans. Please, please do Necromunda content. It's such a great game.

[@spanish4289]

Just a quick one on pouches, I served with a lad who was OBSESSED with buying extra pouches for his kit. He was covered in them, but never had enough kit to fill them, so they were mainly filled with spare socks haha He always struggled getting in prone position too. He was a bit of a mong tbh lol

[@thepaintingphase]

All the gear, no idea.

[@edwindrood2816]

Very cool. Jammy dodgers are horrific though. The art vs war game stuff is gold. Also looking forward to the Necromunda league

[@MarkusMaximus2000]

Another brilliant video. Totally agreed the comms about Cursed City were very badly handled. I don't feel it justified half the toxicity though. I also managed to bag a copy but there was such negativity around it that I lost all buzz for the genre and sold my copy (at a slight discount) to a friend who missed out. On the flip side I do also sympathise that a business shouldn't be expected to disclose all their issues to the public. That's not a good business model.

[@mekko1413]

Glass canopies are way easier to do than most of the paint scheems that Peachy and others try to teach.

[@magaz]

“Int it in’t tin?” Standard conversation round these parts

[@AubLambe]

I waited 6months to get my VIII Legion shoulder pads. I painted 2.4k points in that time, and I only had enough to do 2 of each so 20heads 20 pads. so My terror squad is getting them and I magnetized all of their hands in order to field them as heavy support, support, Terror, tactical. Trying to maximize their worth because youre right they cost a lot.

[@RedAnubiZ]

I love my Deathguard...I love them all...the dozens of maggots, tentacles, boils and the other hundred details. and i painted them all with joy. each one is unique. :) In my humble opinion coolest 40k army I

[@clawhammr666]

love these chats

[@DustyLamp]

I collected all of crused city, bought all the characters, and its still sitting in the boxes. I just have such a negative feeling in my gut whenever I look at it that I haven't gotten it to the table to paint or play. I'm sitting on it all in hopes that time will smooth over the hugely negative experience the whole charade was. Failing that, I'm sure it will sell for a few pennies down the road.

[@converseroo101]

Talking about the marines you bought in 1998 could still be fielded today - the warp spiders I bought in 1995 I can still field as they are the same sculpts games workshop sell today 😂

[@thepaintingphase]

😂🤣😂

[@BronzeRivet]

In an a vid that is an hour and a half long, an index in the description would be pretty helpful. Like, the Cursed City talk references in the video title starts at 23:00

[@thepr3t3nd3r3]

Since Peachy mentioned Perry miniatures. How do they scale to GW IG minis? I've thought of converting some of the Revolution minis for a honeybee regiment.

[@mogwaiman6048]

Pete The Wargamer has kitbash videos of IG conversions using historical kits.

[@elliottwarner-wright3297]

I was recently asked if I wanted to join a Nercromunda campaign it being my first experience with the game and have been looking over the models. This podcast has relit my urge to buy plastic again.

[@crimson_oracle]

If you’ve got an active campaign nearby, jump on that opportunity, it’s not that big an investment to get a gang started and it’s amazing fun