Cussing Christians? - Tim Conway

Tim talks about three predominate errors that are being set forth when bringing up the issue of professing Christians using curse words or listening to music with profanity in it.
MP3: illbehonest.com/cussing-christ...

[@1954crc]

Tim- Many Christians need to be reminded that even if you don't cuss yourself,you shouldn't even listen to it. There are Christians who will go to a comedy club that advertises" For the best adult humor around" and they think that they're not sinning because they themselves are not doing the dirty talking. We are not to have fellowship with the unfruitful deeds of darkness(Eph.5:11) Thanks for sharing this video. You did a great job here.

[@BillBiggs1]

What about soft cuss words like dang, yikes, sugar,

[@jpmadison98]

@@BillBiggs1 I would personally say not sinful but obviously I wouldn’t say it’s good to use “pointless language” either, and this is coming from someone who says “dangit” and “crap” on occasion. One reason Christians should refrain from using curses is because it’s worldly, crude, crass, and offensive-qualities that do not glorify God. But this extends to every bit of our language, we shouldn’t say ANYTHING that doesn’t glorify our Lord whether it be swears, insults, or boasts. We should give loving thanks at all times.

[@BillBiggs1]

@@jpmadison98 thanks, will refrain from using them.

[@1206chaos]

What about the OMG and Jesus Christ. I cringe when I hear people say those words. I used to say them all the time. I had to actively think about it to quit it when those times arose.

[@ondreatorrence4322]

I don't think Christians should cuss. And when I first got saved it was a battle to clean up my sailor mouth but I had the impression that that was no longer appropriate. For a while there had been a disconnect with the spoken word in person vs hearing it on TV, but now a days even hearing it on TV or music gives me pause. I would like to remove it completely from my life if I can help it.

[@illbehonest]

Tim discusses three predominate errors that are being used to justify cussing as being fine. 1. To reach people, we need to use their language. 2. For someone to speak against professing Christians using profanity is being legalistic. 3. Someone says “Well, I don’t speak profanity, I only allow it in the music I listen to, and it doesn’t affect me.”

[@mayraovalles5168]

Saw this... Glad it's being posted.

[@berlinfriswell6564]

I can't believe people use those excuses.

[@DI-tj3lb]

Whoa, I was just talking about this with my Co-workers at work. I have co-workers that goes to my church, they cuss regularly, and listen to music with foul language and yet proclaim about being a Christian. I can see where they are in their walk with God by the fruits they produce. All believers must live in the likeness of Christ!

[@DeenaSowell]

Yes, thank you, Brother Tim! I especially appreciate pastors who take a stand to keep truth and purity and holiness as the standard for God's Church! Praise the Lord!

[@stephaniejazzy7359]

Thank you Pastor! Very much needed.

[@jesussaves89]

I agree they shouldnt swear eother or swear a lot ro make a habit. We need to let no unwholsome talk come out of our mouths. Tame your tongue when we cuss we grieve the holy spirit

[@KRashad]

It’s clear you can take a stand for truth. But I hope there has been some growth in a pastoral approach to sinning believers.

[@noeleenfalkner4557]

You have made me cry and I do not do this I pray the Holy Spirit reveals this to you I cannot put this up and it went right through the country here in NZ

[@GuessWhoAsks]

Can you please define the term "cussing" and/or "profanity"(depending on if you consider both words to hold the same definition or not) since two people can use the same term, but mean totally different things?.... Who do you believe is able to determine which words qualify for that definition between the speaker and the listener? If the listener is the one who can classify any word they believe classifies as meeting the definition of "cussing", that would be problematic for Christians. You might be able to understand that if you take the time and put the effort into thinking about and answering the questions I ask...

[@christrovinger]

It’s kind of common sense which words are considered to be profanity. If it’s profanity or borderline profanity, your God-given conscience will convict you (Romans 2:15) and you should listen to that conviction- otherwise it’s sin. If you on the other hand ignore your conscience (and sin), the Bible mentions that your conscience can be seared (1 Timothy 4:2) and that God may hand you over to your depravity/sin (Romans 1:24-25).

[@GuessWhoAsks]

@@christrovinger "t’s kind of common sense which words are considered to be profanity. If it’s profanity or borderline profanity, your God-given conscience will convict you (Romans 2:15) and you should listen to that conviction- otherwise it’s sin. If you on the other hand ignore your conscience (and sin), the Bible mentions that your conscience can be seared (1 Timothy 4:2) and that God may hand you over to your depravity/sin (Romans 1:24-25). "...I am sorry, but none of the information in your reply let me know how you define the term "profanity" which you may be using some strange definition that nobody would accept...Are you using some perverted definition? Either you can define the words you use, or you literally don't know what you're talking about....LITERALLY...not figuratively...I mean, at that point you are using words you can not understand how to define. I will ask again, so please try to consider what is being asked then reply with information that helps me understand how you define "pofanity" so I can understand what you are saying...or do you want to be understood?

[@christrovinger]

@@GuessWhoAsks I think the real question is do you really want an answer? I answered your question. Profanity is common sense. It’s anything that you internally know (by your God-given conscience) to be wrong/inappropriate to say. Christians should even take it one step further and aim to avoid words and actions that could cause their fellow believers to stumble (Romans 14:13) or bring reproach upon the name of Jesus Christ, their savior.

[@pfwindham]

TRUTH🎉🎉🎉

[@krystalh021]

I feel this is so hypocritical, as a growing Christian there are many trials we all go through at differnt times in our lives. I personally was brought up in a home of drugs, violence, and a whole lot of profanity. Just because you are a christian does not mean you have had a break through on every sin , like profanity. As I can continue to grow in my faith and now that I have the holy spirit within me to convict me of that sin, it is an ongoing fight for me. That does not make anyone a better Christian. Tepentance is turning away but we as the church should be praying and mentoring those in that current stage of struggle. Pray fo those who struggle and instead of condeming, profess God's word in a loving way not a judgmental way

[@jpmadison98]

Hi Krystal. Letting loose an occasional curse word because you’ve been doing it for years and then immediately repenting and trying not to do it anymore is totally different from someone who goes out of their way to use and excuse crude language with no regard for God’s character.

[@blep8848]

I know that this is 8 years old and may not get read, but what would you say about people like Jeff Durbin and Mark Driscoll (he's no longer reformed, but know that people still look up to his old stuff) using foul language to try and make a point? I've taken a stance that we shouldn't be like the world (as Christ in Matthew has stated) and sin just to make a point in preaching or evangelizing. I just wonder what your take would be on that.

[@illbehonest]

I don't know too much about those men--but yes we would take the stance that believers should not use foul language to make their point. However what is foul is defined differently by each person.

[@herecomesgranny]

​@@illbehonest Isn't the bible the only source of what defines foul language? Should people have the authority over the bible to decide what foul language is? Just want to know for sure what the bible says about this. Man's heart can't be trusted. d

[@pfwindham]

You can’t even compare Driscoll with Jeff Durbin

[@blep8848]

@@pfwindham I think it's a red flag to actively sin or condone sinning in order to make a point in your preaching. I'm not calling Jeff a false teacher like Mark was, but I think we need to be careful when teachers sin in order to prove a point.

[@blep8848]

@@pfwindham some of the stuff that Jeff says and does can be major stumbling blocks to new Christians. But there are also other things that Jeff does that I'm in full support of like how he's vocal about the Bible's stance on abortion.

[@calebhopkins8167]

this will more than likely not be seen, but this is the definition of legalistic teaching. i haven’t watched the entire video but i’m half way through and the word “grace” has not been mentioned once. fix your speech, your heart, your lifestyle for JESUS because YOU love him and because he loves you. not because you will go to hell if you cuss or slip up because we all will. this is false preaching. Please rely on Jesus to fix you rather than yourself and your fear of hell to fix you. you missed the whole point Tim

[@spiritman-em4qr]

The word "grace" is mentioned at 5:30 when he's quoting Ephesians 4:27. And, you "haven't watched the entire video" and, somehow, though you didn't hear properly, nor watch the entire video, you mistakenly claim that hell is hung overhead as a punishment for using unwholesome speech, rather than correcting one's speech out of peaceful communion with God through Christ. You really missed this one Caleb.

[@calebhopkins8167]

@@spiritman-em4qr so saying that if people have committed a sin and they’re damned to hell without the mention of Jesus is okay?

[@spiritman-em4qr]

@@calebhopkins8167 I can see how you got that, but Tim is teaching from Ephesians as a theme of Christian living, which, in this case, focuses upon the speech of a born again child of God. He's not saying that a Christian who swears as a regular matter of their daily life is going to hell for swearing, he's saying that if that is the way someone speaks, then they are probably not a born again child of God at all, and their speech is merely an indicator of their spiritual condition. Tim's recitation and expansion of Ephesians 4 and 5 here does a very good job covering the grace you claim is missing. Please watch the entire video.

[@calebhopkins8167]

@@spiritman-em4qr than maybe if that’s the way that he thinks than he should say that. all i’m saying is, is that in our country, assuming we’re all from the U.S. here, christianity is on the decline. we’re one of 17 countries that are on the decline of Christianity, however, the other 150+ countries are on the incline, which is wonderful! but Christians come to Jesus when they hear of his grace and love rather than how you have to keep every single commandment because we can’t do that. all of that to say, we have to watch the way that we preach and what we put out there because if we want to reach the lost, which is who we should be focused on over the saved. If you argue with that, it’s in scripture, He left the 99 to save the 1. we have to preach to them and every single message we bring and this is not aimed towards the lost by any means and in no way shape or form would a lost person come to Jesus after hearing this message

[@spiritman-em4qr]

@@calebhopkins8167 This "message" is from one of Tim's personal bible studies with believers in a close group within his church, and is not aimed at immature believers who have not been biblically trained in the doctrines of law and grace, which, is the very reason he gives these talks. This is not meant to be a gospel presentation perse.

[@pearlsandmanna]

It really grieves me to hear Christians using coarse language and making inappropriate, crude jokes. I don’t think there is anything cute or funny about it. It is dishonouring to God. The worst part is the effect it has on the unbelieving world. Professing Christians, you are ambassadors for Christ. Souls are on the line! If you like to bring attention to yourself by using profanity and crude humour, please do not identify yourself as a Christian at all. It is not fitting, to say the least.