#84 - Why are Bodybuilders NOT competing? - Jay, Matt & Milos Sarcev debate | Cutler Cast

[@davecass9035]

I love how Milos reminds jay he beat him in 99 every podcast 😂😂😂 my favourite guest 😊

[@desertraider8628]

Even in the latest episode he mentioned it hahah

[@MHMHMHMHMHMHMHMH]

Love it when Bro Chats drops one day and Cutlercast the day after! Soon as you’ve finished the BC episode you’re ready for the CC!

[@tklkw]

Milo's is basically an encyclopedia of bodybuilding. Photographic memory of bodybuilding.

[@TorontoMuscle]

I see Milos, i click.

[@BBandBS]

Me too

[@Jeremiah-e1d]

Same!

[@soychuy0872]

Same tbh 😊

[@jorgegoncalves5643]

Same !!!

[@keno3241]

100 percent! He should be the host of his own podcast 🙏🏽 love this guy !

[@mitchmangoba]

I love Jay’s idea with having contracts for the bigger names in a specific competition. Like boxing has mandatories.

[@CutlerCast]

thanks for listening

[@triston5515]

Milos is a national treasure. 💪🏼

[@areMiller]

Milos is by far the most informative and interesting personality in the sport of bodybuilding !!

[@gzrevenimus]

The chemistry of you and Milos is so awesome and enjoyable to watch! Love every podcast you 2 make together. Milos should always remain the 1# guest of this show.

[@derk4232]

Listened to this on my flight to Houston and didn’t realize you were making a appearance but now I’ll be seeing you and Matt tomorrow! Super excited!

[@jamesmirabal4058]

Awesome interview- Incredible content! Keep at it!

[@CutlerCast]

Thank you! Will do!

[@SuperJohnyyy]

I could listen to Jay and Milo's talk about the weather

[@user-ii7xc1ry3x]

I'm a simple man. I see Milos Sarcev, I click.

[@TorontoMuscle]

Me 2

[@TheJohnCaron]

I have a BP monitoring and advocate the Omron BP5450 model. It's great you guys advocate health for all, not just bodybuilders.

[@CutlerCast]

hahahah

[@Ksmoove0824]

Scare of Competition and social media “failure” create fragile egos

[@genolocascio]

* JAY LOOKS AWESOME *

[@rodolfoibarra8756]

Milos is a straight shooter that’s why we love him everywhere he shows his face. I prime example Jay: no is talking about Samson wining the Olympia Milos: no one thought he would wing the Arnold Classic you included 😅😅😅 he’s the best

[@chrisgalbraith547]

Milos is da man! Palumbo should be a guest, as well... always a podcast worth my hours when these both participate. 😎

[@kaizersoze2606]

Absolutely people tend to forget Palumbo is pretty much the godfather of good raw bodybuilding media etc.

[@diggy561]

I went back to watch the 2006 O, he looked so happy for Jay. - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKrCoGmYf8t-obs

[@josiahwilliams6646]

Man you all we truly appreciate this content.

[@artqualitycleaningservices959]

Great show as always Guys, Thank You. Milos is an encyclopedia of bodybuilding

[@jarmovertanen9967]

Great show like always guys! Still waiting the cooking show :)

[@CutlerCast]

Maybe one day!

[@jarmovertanen9967]

@@CutlerCast Milos can bring some protein bars and chop it 3 ways. With egg whites.

[@beetman]

Agree with Matt on the mandatory top 5 not needing to be requalified. Maybe down it to 3 bc these random open shows could use the bigger names to entice audiences and competitors.

[@LindsayMelrose]

This should be a good one to listen to,… 1:00 Please publish these- I think it’s absolutely incredible - talk about passion & loving the sport 👏💜

[@mihabolil4o]

Milos diaries. I would definitely buy those.

[@sumeetthapa4448]

Milos should be permanent! Milos is human encyclopaedia of bodybuilding! Respect 🙏

[@magos_0083]

Believe he has other business obligations- I just hope jay is paying him decent for his podcast time and appearances.

[@nicowins]

Milos the best guest!

[@Lobo513]

In regards of shows, the idea of having the top 5-6 compete in at least one show (even though theyre qualified) would bring more excitement. Add that with having less shows and giving the top 2 qualifications on higher tier shows like arnold/chicago/new york etc. Imagine 3rd place from the olympia places 2nd or 3rd at a lower tier show. Forces athletes to stay in shape and gives more excitement to everything overall. More “stories”, “rivalries”, “comebacks”.

[@dextergarner1286]

Milos dropping the gauntlet for Nick and Regan to train legs...if Nick accepts I don’t think that’s gonna happen until AFTER the O. 😎. But I’d be happy to see it.

[@alexattardg4s975]

Ronnie's rivals were closer to him because they were better than Phil's competitors. And that is what makes Ronnie the number 1 because he won against much better bodybuilders. And this is coming from someone who prefers Phil's physique but you cannot deny that. Great discussion guys I loved it!

[@dextergarner1286]

Phil’s training and genetics just completely outdistanced his competitors. Even Kai. Had he dialed it back for the sake of his waistline and muscle clarity, and not engage with online, I think he could have a record 9 Sandows. Rhoden was good and when he won he was great, but it’s not like he blew Phil out of the water. Had Kai competed that year he would have been in the mix because Phil repeated what Ronnie did in terms of size and it caught up to him.

[@alexattardg4s975]

@@dextergarner1286 I agree. Phil could have won 10 straight if he did not have his mid sections problems.

[@iamcorneliu1097]

😂everyone forgeting Dorian; The guy that dominated the 90s … best era in bodybuilding

[@AsmaAmen]

@@dextergarner1286first ron in 99 and 2000 he win with a perfect score in 99 the difference was 20 points and in 2000 the difference was 22 point so not even close so how they say Kevin or flex was close to him, and milos he ask Steve the head judge who has the best body ever ron or Dorian or jay or lee or Phil Steve he said ron so he chose ron is the best ever and no one know about bb and better than Steve the head judge

[@AsmaAmen]

@@alexattardg4s975 first ron in 99 and 2000 he win with a perfect score in 99 the difference was 20 points and in 2000 the difference was 22 point so not even close so how they say Kevin or flex was close to him, and milos he ask Steve the head judge who has the best body ever ron or Dorian or jay or lee or Phil Steve he said ron so he chose ron is the best ever and no one know about bb and better than Steve the head judge

[@IfbbProMartaeRuelas]

I just competed in the Chicago Pro. Spent 12k on everything just on super supps, supps, food, everything and i got second to last. We are definitely not making anything. Well pros like me that aren't the top tier. We take massive losses just to compete.

[@MilosSarcevOfficialYoutubePage]

Martae, sorry about your placing...but you had a chance to compete and now know where you stand and what you need to improve to place higher. Don't get discouraged. More than likely - you didn't choose bodybuilding as a major money-making profession...but because YOU LOVE to train and improve physically... You made it as far as a PRO...Many don't...

[@IfbbProMartaeRuelas]

@@MilosSarcevOfficialKZbinPage this made my day and put much needed fire under me! Thank you. I needed to hear this. Thank you Milos!

[@RichardRatner.1972]

Thanks Matt. Always great to see Milos, Jay & yourself talk. Gustavo was amazing. R.I.P. Big love, kindest regards, Richard U.K

[@CutlerCast]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@RichardRatner.1972]

@@CutlerCast Many thanks 🙏

[@AK-sq9zy]

Should be called the "Cutler & Sarcev Cast"!

[@Handle3636]

When Jay and Milo’s do a podcast 🔥

[@aca__axa]

As a anime fan respect Milos for wearing Baki t shirt 🎉❤

[@ejk217]

Part of the experience of attending a bodybuilding show is the merch!! I’ve dropped hundreds on merch at shows

[@Johnny_ug]

I could listen to Milos tell stories all day.

[@Flex-hz5ye]

Milos back & I knew it was gunna be a good video

[@leecostello8424]

I would like to see bodybuilding federations create a league points system for the year that counts towards competing in the showcase of the year event like The Olympia, Universe etc.. That validates all other competitions leading up to the showcase events. This would ensure that not only would there be less Pro Cards being distributed yearly, but would ensure that each contest is filled with competitors of quality and familiarity to the fan base. If this where to happen, then it would be a collective effort of all promoters, sponsors and events to work closely to build up not only exposure for contests, but also competitors and create a tier system for prize money to be pooled towards bigger rewards throughout the season. In the long term of professional bodybuilding, this will create a stable franchise of steady consistent growth annually, on all fronts - competitor, contest and earning wise.

[@eddamonsta]

Milo's with that sickass Baki Hanma tee!

[@WarPartyFitness]

I always have said 01 Jay should have won the Mr O. I waited weeks to get that Olympia spread in Muscle Mag in my little crappy small town and my cousin and I were just blown away that Jay had placed 2nd.

[@victor79sanchez]

Still waiting for that number for my hate mail 😂 I love these videos guys thank you!

[@Joseph_John_SM]

This thre are gold.

[@thomasdietz579]

Samsons rear double might need some more beef but his rear lat spread looks amazing/insane and improved!

[@traciethigpen886]

The laces J. Trailer. Train in the back. Room 👁👁

[@chrissoto5843]

I agree with manager mike only Mr. O should be qualified everyone else should compete & win a show to get back to the O regardless of who you are that would definitely make things more interesting for body building & the fans !

[@CutlerCast]

I think it makes it better when the top guys compete and don’t sit out ever year - Matt

[@srqmojo]

Did close to two hours of cardio today, I got enough muscle I’m eating less doing cardio both outside and indoors to get in contest shape… I was slacking on cardio for the longest time, now it’s time for me to do cardio in addition to weight training to get in contest shape.

[@D_Huckins]

Keep your diet simple and smart. Following macros is easiest. I’d recommend recording daily, both diet and activity. Good luck and have fun.

[@nicknormando4220]

Milo's is such a great guest. So much good information

[@Dedicatedamoslee]

I'm also a simple man. I see Milos I click.

[@CutlerCast]

thank you for listening

[@classic_muscle7651]

No one is talking about Carlos Thomas Jr... Check his guest posing, he can win against Hunter and Andrew

[@dillonnorgren2785]

Never been to a show. But would definitely go if there was one in MN. Make it so the amateur guys can compete before the IFBB. That brings more people/more ticket sales. Promote it at the all of the gyms locally. Not many people know when shows are

[@davethomas7881]

great to see milos back guy,s in our sport you have the voice of bodybuilding but i would put milos ahead of bc and name milos the passion of bodybuilding. the thing that impressed me with jay during his career was the way he interacted with the fans and took time to speak to every one of them when they were getting signed pics of him how many pros can we say do that these day.s?

[@ArmonAdibi]

Hadi is training harder than ever and not on social I think he’s showing up and killing it again. I do like Derek though. All these guys getting better I think Nick going keep dropping spots.

[@CutlerCast]

gonna be a good year for sure

[@DesktopBodybuilding]

Cutler Cast BABYYYYYYY!!!!!!!

[@CutlerCast]

boom

[@leecostello8424]

I would definitely buy Milos’s log books, if he where to publish them as a warts and all insight into the amount of discipline it takes to be as consistent to make gains and asses progress efficiently. I think not only Milos Sarcev, but also Dorian Yates’s log books (any really, that have similar professional attitudes towards quantifying progress), would be the best insight(s) into the levels a disciplined bodybuilder goes to, to measure successes in great detail.

[@ecufile4095]

Amen to that, Jay Cutler is the men,and was the man to beat 30 years ago. And now he is still the men, he is in great cheap, 30 years later now 50 years old and still going strong, and still humble and a really nice men. And works every day since he was young, to make hiss brand bigger. But how can train as nobody els, the true king off real hard training, and is now again in a insane good shape, its great to see the greatest and biggest bodybuilder off all time. Still going strong, its mad, still the honger off succes, and the honger to eat 6 times a day, and train 2 times a day and 7 days a week, a hole week off training every day, eating the hole week, for one cause be the biggest and best again after 30 years. Nobody can do this, only Jay Cutler. The best bodybuilder all time. Greetings from a BB fan how train since 1985 from Holland. And is a big Jay Cutler fan.

[@latman1]

Real fans of the sport know that Milos he GOAT of BB!!

[@holdtightbrizzle]

The first step is to increase the prize pool, and if that doesn't work then more extreme measures like reducing the auto qualifying Olympia slots need to be considered.

[@CutlerCast]

Wheee does the money come from? - Matt

[@milossarcev7538]

Higher prize money MUST be requested by Federation. Over 35 years of ignoring this important fact and looking away,not facing the problem will get us nowhere. In life we always have to do THE RIGHT THING …and all of us know what that is here… Minimum wages in all the States dramatically increased in all the states. Try to find any service (and I do mean any 🤫) and compare the prices from 35 years ago and now. Well, service of pro bodybuilders making a show possible for a promoters to make money promoting the show - still cost the same 😒. And that will continue indefinitely as it seems….

[@holdtightbrizzle]

I am not sure on where the money would come from, without digging into the ecosystem more. However, I have worked in sports for 15+ years and typically prize money is the carrot we use to get more participants. We also look at the schedule, number of points won (if points system), obligations to the federations, obligations to partners, associated brands, media opportunities, exposure, likelyhood of placing well, ease of access, communicating with the potential participants and so on. Or just tempt Saudi Arabia to buy the sport, like golf ;)

[@peepers20001]

Hey guys, great show. Maybe next time you have Milos on he could review pose by pose the times he beat Jay. Hahaha. Would be a good show lol

[@GetMoneyWithCooks]

Milos: So you think that he could beat Phil? Jay: Oh No No No No Milos: Speak English Speak English I Want To Understand 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I am crying

[@sugartbube]

Body needs to have 4 majors like golf and tennis. There is too much of a focus on the Olympia. But in the 90s the Arnold, the IronMan and the Night of Champions, to me was seen as the biggest shows outside of the Olympia

[@benjamiiiiiiiin]

Matt is 100% correct about everyone outside of Mr Olympia having to qualify, if you want the satellite shows to do better. 2-5 came close, but 1st is 1st and 2nd is nowhere. You got paid for your placement, now re-qualify.

[@PaigeSabedra]

LOVE the business ideas Matt! for selling prints as a pro what is the best way to do that, is going to shows with a table the only way? can pros sell prints online? i guess so with tshirts. how to go about advertising that.

[@CutlerCast]

Many ways to make money in this game, just gotta work for it - Matt

[@PaigeSabedra]

@@CutlerCast Thanks Matt! After my rookie pro season I will be doing my research and work on that.

[@johnbenjamin98]

I think the reason why a lot of people are not competing is there not many shows in America and no points system so athletes are being more strategic. A lot of the shows are overseas in Europe so people across the world are flying out to the shows to try to win and qualify for the Olympia

[@CutlerCast]

Huh? - Matt

[@PTPalmer_NPC]

I personally don’t think anyone should automatically qualify for the next Olympia… If the champ is the only one to requalify then you set up the 5-10 year championship runs… Push the champ and everyone else to compete and expose themselves to challengers…

[@shannonmonroe5873]

I think the point about competing frequently is that your showing the Judges you are hungry, and want to move up. And bodybuilding conditioning is a art and you get better and learn your art. Like Milos, didn't he become the best trainer/coach advisor in bodybuilding today? And he got that way by know not only how his body reacted but how others reacted. And I believe he got that way by competing frequently or it was a large part of it.

[@CutlerCast]

What does one being hungry have to do with it? judges don't judge on hunger, they judge on the physique that particular day. - Matt

[@shannonmonroe5873]

@@CutlerCast Ok professor. I never turned pro but back in the old days I competed won Teenage Mr America, Jr Mr America, my class at the USA and top six at the NABBA Mr World so back then the judges liked seeing you compete on a regular basis and progress along the way and you were rewarded for it IF your physique was up to the challenge. Thanks for stating the obvious and confusing the question. You have your opinion but as said opinions are like Uranus everyone has one, I was just giving mine. Lol....😶

[@TheJohnCaron]

First time I see anyone stop what they are doing and visit the Celsius cooler. First Jay and Matt a few minutes later. I'm only halfway thru the podcast. Will Milos grab one, too?

[@janejankulovski5212]

Can we get timestaps for future episodes ?

[@phillipjacobs7691]

I really enjoy listening to Milos. The guy is massively unappreciated

[@Damian_Ravenscroft]

I think the problem with bodybuilders passing away is very much close to the high carbs consumption. Drugs and carbs are just tools and people who were abusing those tools always were causing themselves health problems - this is true and can be seen since 1950's. It is understandable why someone would cross the line but is it worth it? Milos till this days is teaching usage of the carbs+insulin to be in a very tactical way before/after training but many folks do it ALL DAY LONG hoping that this will make the difference...

[@anunez5173]

The TRIUMVIRATE of the Iron Circle !!!! 💎’s !!!!!!!

[@charlesdean640]

If they weren't making bank from youtube, they would be competing a lot more for that money.

[@CutlerCast]

If you can’t afford to compete, you don’t compare. Basic economics. - Matt

[@areMiller]

Milos needs his own show / podcast .. he needs to put more work into his channel because everyone is going to other KZbin’s to view MILOS and he could be putting content on his own channel and cashing in big instead of everyone else !

[@JayJay-sq6rv]

Jay = yeah that year i came in with distended stomach cuz i was carbing up with oatmeal Milos = yea yea i will share that photos for people to see 😂😂😂

[@J_Chucky]

Matt - sound not synced with video. Please troubleshoot for next podcast

[@CutlerCast]

happens from time to time casue of the processor of the computer for somer reason - going to get a more powerful computer - Matt

[@proskimconstruction4720]

When I see Milos I think Insulin 😂😅🤣 here and there just awesome to have Milos on the show.

[@MilosSarcevOfficialYoutubePage]

When you see me - take some glucose tabs just in case...

[@marcoshaydar2749]

Milos is Just a MASTER

[@Katana_00]

TLDR: Prizes for competing are insultingly low. It’s about the $$$$$. Just like any other sport. Milos can’t wrap his head around this. Cost of living is too high to accept shit pay.

[@AusOpenBodybuilding]

Joel Stubbs's back 🤯🏆

[@Venom1two3]

Milos just waiting for Jay to say… “Yeah i’ll sign Behrouz” Silence … 😂😂😂😂

[@MilosSarcevOfficialYoutubePage]

He would not go wrong...😉 But no....I understand how everything works... My cry for help is to OTHER PEOPLE that I believe could possibly help (if they try).

[@Venom1two3]

@@MilosSarcevOfficialKZbinPage I really hope something can be done to get him to the Olympia, its a shame

[@KingKznta]

Jay imma get a pic and shirt from you 1000% at the Texas pro

[@ethanjfit]

Jay just keep getting more jacked I swear😂

[@Joseph_John_SM]

You know that when Milos talks, he will hurt some feelings.

[@MilosSarcevOfficialYoutubePage]

CONFIDENT MAN DOESN'T GET HIS FEELINGS HURT...😉

[@Joseph_John_SM]

@@MilosSarcevOfficialKZbinPage Keep the hard work Mr. Milos. We will always support what You do for the sport.🤜🏻🤛🏻

[@redram3457]

Love Milos!!

[@karensirko6738]

Why is Reagan Grimes not entering every show

[@CutlerCast]

Cant make progress competing in every show - Matt

[@Fitnessdrama]

It’s probably because of KZbin lol

[@MichalJanku-nh7dx]

It is a great show to listen. I spend so many hours listing these podcasts, maybe to much :-D. Anyway I'm interested if I'm allone here wishing that taller athletes would win Mr.Olympia. I always hear that Derek looks great, Hadi would be difficult to beat and Nick is monster. All of these guys are bellow 5'7″ (170cm). All of these athletes are spectacular, it is really crazy how far they pushed limits of human body. Nevrtheless they seems to me to be a bit over-muscled and not symetric. I know Mr.Olympia is not contest of beauty.....however...

[@matthewpinson4208]

I got into lifting about 7 months ago and I have had the best time because I have 1,000s of hours of content to watch/listen to from Jay/Matt to catch up on! Milos is also one of those where I have about 150 videos/pod casts in a playlist to go watch! 😬😬😬 You 3 are so freakin good together! 🫡🫡🫡🏋️🏋️🏋️

[@danieltuval8879]

The reality is competitive bodybuilding is not healthy, simply because it's the prep for the shows that promote extremely dangerous practices in order to achieve that final condition. There is only so much of that the body can take.the guys that got in for 5 or 10 years and got out are still going. Guys that push it beyond that are not generally so lucky, unless very genetically gifted.i think that's main reason less guys competing

[@paulbartlett5405]

jay keeps his elbows on the table whereas milos practices proper manners

[@CutlerCast]

You posting from a fake profile is not proper / unethical trolling - Matt

[@houstonwheeler6854]

1:26 says ur wrong dumb dumb

[@kerrydennard4921]

Again I think manager Mike is right only one that goes to the Olympia is the one who won and the former mr. O if you come in second your first last you have to re-qualify

[@MilosSarcevOfficialYoutubePage]

You guys should both stop smoking crack...

[@CBRN]

I love the biased coach

[@josesphdobie2897]

Only open class Mr Olympia champions have the right to call themselves Mr Olympia, the other 212/classic/physique bodybuilders should introduce themselves selves as 212/classic/physique Mr Olympia not- Mr Olympia (pause) 212/classic/physique

[@CutlerCast]

100% - Matt

[@smilsmff]

Right they dont compete in places they wont need to. if they still did the Grande prix like long ago or the Arnold

[@holdtightbrizzle]

Milos, there are travel agencies that specialise in visa processing. He should reach out to them.

[@CutlerCast]

Iran is different, Iranian citizens can’t get visas - Matt

[@kaihanhosseini5644]

Milos u rock

[@Longevitypersonalfitnessnj]

MUCH RESPECT to you both for your accomplishments on/off the stage. Amazing. But with all that…are we really surprised by all these “young” men and women dying? Seriously? I can’t imagine what you had to do…put your body through…to accomplish your “stage’ body. RISK…REWARD. Right? Thank you as always, for your insightful bodybuilding commentary:)

[@heavenbound7]

1 Corinthians 9:24 KJV Bible Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.

[@CutlerCast]

Whats the square root of 97? - Matt

[@hypertrophil8964]

Milos wearing a Baki Hanma shirt? 👀

[@sugartbube]

Bodybuilders don't compete anymore because of social media DBL, Seth Forece there is no need to continue competing

[@DaRealBenRichards]

Milos in the house

[@kerrydennard4921]

The difference is Matt is money and he's thinking like a businessman he's forcing the athletes who compete which brings in more money and more morass in the seats at the