Homelander Challenges Butcher To a Fight | The Boys (Karl Urban, Antony Starr)

Homelander (Antony Starr) pays a visit to Butcher (Karl Urban) to propose a deal and discuss Vought over some tea.
From Season 3, Episode 1: "Payback"
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Superheroes are often as popular as celebrities, as influential as politicians, and sometimes even as revered as gods. But that's when they're using their powers for good. What happens when the heroes go rogue and start abusing their powers? When it's the powerless against the super powerful, the Boys head out on a heroic quest to expose the truth about the Seven and Vought, the multibillion-dollar conglomerate that manages the superheroes and covers up their dirty secrets. Based on the comic book series of the same name.
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[@seanc41556]

Don't get me wrong, Antony Starr deserves all the praise and credit he gets, but Karl Urban deserves just as much... I love all their scenes together

[@Narutofreak155]

💯 every scene they're in they steal the show!

[@redrain860]

Idk, Urban is impressive but Butcher is all head tilts, exaggerated smirks and a goofy accent. Starr as Homelander adds so much more nuances and subtleties and perfectly nails the vibe without feeling repetitive.

[@harryrun3754]

​@@redrain860he has his moments.

[@simonfinnie2900]

The two kiwis

[@acklesangel]

As a kiwi I could not be more proud of them….national treasures both 👍

[@made.by_noah]

They almost have a batman-joker like relationship where they give each other purpose

[@randallflagg6271]

I had the exact same thought whilst watching this clip!

[@acrasiakz-mod3877]

​@@randallflagg6271 *while* nub

[@vrokyoto]

Id say more of a punisher kingpin type relationship, the punisher wants nothing more than to kill kingpin but the kingpin keeps the punisher alive because he cleans up the little fishes and keeps that way so that there’s no competition for him

[@sgttoasterface5282]

They’re the only two that can and will openly call the other out on their bullshit, butcher treats the boys like shit and they won’t speak back, and everyone at vought is too scared of homelander to even disagree with him. They hate each other but they’re the only people they can actually be honest with

[@rapperaslam]

But who's who?

[@willmartin4430]

Butcher is the person homelander has always respected the most. He has little fear of him. Homelander even opened up to Butcher in this scene

[@MrLockwise]

but this never happened in real life, was in butcher's mind

[@Mikerille]

@@MrLockwiseno, it happened lol, they literally directly reference it three times, twice from homelander and once from butcher

[@abiari2446]

@@MrLockwisenope, herogasm homelander said “deals off” . It happened

[@vibratorbean2623]

i hate people that confidently spread misinformation lol this DID happen

[@renttook]

He has NO fear of him

[@slospop1125]

In the beginning Homelander had some respect for butcher for what happened with translucent, but mostly saw butcher as entertainment. Then at the end of Season 2 after losing Ryan and Stormfront, Homelander gained respect of Butcher as his arch-enemy.

[@prod.superior5434]

Butcher respects him because he treats him the way he knows he deserves to be treated, and isn’t afraid to do it, knowing he can kill him anytime he wants

[@squirrelsinjacket1804]

Pretty sure Butcher is gonna take out Homelander since he's got the supe killer virus instead of him now. We all saw what happened with the bunny.

[@stairwaytoheaven8]

@@squirrelsinjacket1804 Thank god your KIND doesn't write the show lmao, if the biggest villain in the boys dies by having a fucking niddle in his throat it will be completely anti-climatic

[@Jabarttt]

​@squirrelsinjacket1804 nah lad they are going to make hot sweet love for the season finale

[@jaylinjapan4683]

Homelander seems to respect people who don't fear him. Butcher knows he can't kill Homelander, but he's not afraid. Homelander's Superman power can detect body temperature changes, increased blood pressure, smells, etc. If he doesn't spot fear, he changes his tone completely.

[@larrynintendo6838]

"Oi Homlanda, I reckon it's toime we foight." *cracks knuckles*

[@rossmorton7002]

The subtitles are excellent: "You want to watch me have a wayang? I'll cuss your tenner."

[@derekcheesball1248]

“Oi ‘Omlanda, I’m a givs you a roight good pop in ‘a noggin”

[@Arslan-f2r]

I'm not fluent english speaker and I barely understand what he's saying

[@Sanjay-un1yf]

​@@Arslan-f2r same

[@peepeeman4740]

Cracks me knuck-oles

[@samuelweir5985]

Even Batman would be impressed by that disappearing move at the end.

[@PaksGaming]

Plot twist: he was just casually walking away but but out of frame

[@NightmareCourtPictures]

it could also be a subtle clue that it was in head, that this encounter didn't actually happen. Both are equally terrifying.

[@VoughtFrenziii]

@@NightmareCourtPicturesno it did happen, homelander confirmed it by telling butcher before they fought “we made a deal to fight 1v1”

[@NightmareCourtPictures]

@@VoughtFrenziii oh right. true. forgot about that.

[@alexpowers5117]

Why would Batman be impressed homelander got super speed he can do it much better then Batman

[@tylerb3023]

Homelander: “Where’s Ryan?” Butcher: “He’s at 673 nosh my bollocks ave.” 💀🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nlawson2004]

I didn’t catch all of it, but cracked me up nonetheless. WTF does _nosh_ mean? That cockney accent and attitude kills me smh ha. 😆

[@nlawson2004]

Bollocks is bullshit right.

[@TomAndrews91]

@@nlawson2004 It means to eat.

[@aburoach9268]

Imagine if homelander still looked that up later out of desperation, just to be sure

[@Adamatronamus]

Sure enough, that's his exact location.

[@osmanyreyes8373]

“Choose your enemies wisely cause they will define you, Make them interesting cause in some ways they will mind you, They are not there in the beginning, but when your story ends, Gonna last with you longer than your friends” -U2, Cedars of Lebanon

[@LoneWolf_432]

What a fantastic quote and you know what, its very true

[@dantern6168]

I'm sitting here thinking this was Tupac verse. Never heard of this song before.

[@osmanyreyes8373]

@@dantern6168 first time I watched this scene that last bit of that song played in my head. The context was everyone around Homelander was being dismissive and acting dumb, so he went to vent to the guy who has some degree of regard which is his enemy.

[@MichaelF-cc8ri]

😮 thanks ❤

[@TheMidnightPhil]

I love that as deep of enemies they are, Homelander really has no one else at this point in the story to have an honest, raw conversation with. His psychology makes him such an engaging villain.

[@thedeanogaming]

Deep? No pun intended.

[@alsimmons4504]

Then what about Sister Sage? She's literally the "smartest person on Earth" so besides Billy Butcher, she's *also* another person whom Homelander can have an "honest, raw conversation" with as well apparently.

[@owenleal]

​​@@alsimmons4504 this is from last season before Sage was introduced. Also we see what happens when someone does try to be frank with Homelander. He says he can handle it but eventually his ego takes over. What he really wants is a lapdog who is just smart enough to do as he says without fucking up, but just docile enough not to talk back or make him feel insecure, which is what he has in Firecracker. Butcher and Homelander are different, they share a burning hatred and a disregard for life that borders on kinship. If they werent such bitter enemies, they'd be the best of friends feeding each other's worst impulses.

[@CJWII]

​@@alsimmons4504Intelligence doesn't equate to raw and honest. Look no further than infamous politicians irl.

[@alsimmons4504]

@@CJWII I'm *well aware* of the relationship between "intelligence" and "raw honesty" so thanks for the redundant explanation lol. Sister Sage is still one of the few people alive that's smart AND empathetic (since that's also another one of her powers/abilities anyway) enough to genuinely understand precisely where Homelander is coming from emotionally so yes, the point *still* stands nevertheless here.

[@limelimelimee]

Calling it now, the episode where they showdown in S5 will be called Scorched Earth.

[@trapbeatz710]

yea.. let's see

[@thecouncilofnine4692]

Well, while most episodes are named after comics issues, I think for this one they would make an exception. It will be either "Scorched Earth" or "The House of Cards Comes Tumbling Down" which is one of the titles of the second to last volume, just because it's a damn badass title.

[@starvinmarvin101]

100% mate

[@Thibaut_Guerquin]

That would be absolutely goated ! Plus, that episode the whole globe is almost destroyed

[@waynegriffith9124]

Homelander only talks normal to butcher and black noir. The only 2 he respects

[@kash-tz1ee]

Man no body cares

[@michaeltarango3565]

​@@kash-tz1ee I do

[@donyjedimind9111]

@@kash-tz1ee i do

[@elborak3983]

@@kash-tz1eei do

[@paulv7744]

​@@kash-tz1ee I also care.

[@I13thNightmareI]

Homelander: May I come in? Butcher: That'll cost you another tenner

[@NegotiableHemingway]

Butcher is the only human Homelander respects without even realising it because he’s not afraid to die or afraid to tell homelander the truth. He needs butcher more than he realises. He’s his only gateway to humanity

[@chasemoss7892]

Who else thought homelander was using his x-ray vision and saw what was in his hand

[@Netherwolf6100]

I did at first, until the fight at Herorgasm. It means that Homelander was being 100% respectful to Butcher, refusing to peer in on him, asking for his permission to enter his home, and not damaging anything or threatening his life.

[@willkeinnamen5829]

@@Netherwolf6100 1:14 "You know, I could just pull you apart limb by limb"

[@jkfgvgd]

​@@willkeinnamen5829to homelander that's just banter between bros

[@Netherwolf6100]

@@willkeinnamen5829 Oh please, if the two characters knew Homelander was being facetious, don't try using that as an example of a threat. We all know he wasn't going to do it, nor was it a threat. They were two guys, trying to get a rise out of each other.

[@Hustlery]

Same

[@jonathanrayne]

I LOVE Butcher. He's like Batman, no powers and still the baddest MF in the room.

[@ComicsForLife2023]

Just like Batman who lives because Superman allows it. Butcher lives because Homelander allows it too.

[@Faster_than_light_yo]

@@ComicsForLife2023 you do know that Batman and Superman are like brothers in canon right? there is no concept of allowing lmao.

[@Crunkboy415]

@@ComicsForLife2023 It's more the other way around. Superman once gave Batman a Kryptonite bullet in the event Supes goes crazy, and he wanted Bats to kill him if he does. What Superman doesn't know is Bats is also well stocked with Kryptonite in a bat cave vault.

[@alexanderson4497]

@@Faster_than_light_yo Well Injustice Superman might have a different opinion lol

[@LordFerbombi]

@@alexanderson4497the same one that got beat up by Alfred? ☠️

[@Thaibokser]

The way the music changes when he stands for that window..

[@james_9190]

reminds me of when the Comedien goes to visit Moloch in Watchmen because hes the nearest thing he has to a friend

[@RhapsodyinGlue]

Wow, great reference, and a phenomenal scene from Watchmen.

[@ethanhall7217]

I honestly thought this was in Butcher's head when I first saw it

[@dionotdio]

I chose to believe it real simply cuz that's more entertaining than just him being in his head imo Glad herogasm confirmed it real when HL and Butcher both referenced scorched earth

[@doyindee7495]

Lmao 😅 This was way back in the earlier seasons before butcher took any v​@@dionotdio

[@dionotdio]

@@doyindee7495 The convo of them talking in the kitchen? S3 right???

[@ObliqueVisualsNz]

So did I

[@patientfirbolg3299]

It wasn't until Homelander said "it was supposed to be me and you, this is cheating ... deals off" that it clicked for me that it wasn't in his head

[@Devil0027]

I love how it’s animosity and sprinkled respect in there, they can’t tell if they hate each other or each others decline more. Homelander pandering on tv and Billy inviting death

[@wpalmer16]

Surprised Homelander didn’t see Butcher put the Temp V in the jar, looked right at it

[@cptaintskmaster]

with how lazy homelander is with his heat vision, I doubt he uses his x ray a ton other than looking at a person's heart rate?

[@bluemassgamer17]

Two reasons 1. Homelander is too focus on taking to butcher to x ray vision. 2. The inside of the jar could be lined with the steel he can't see through.

[@KingShibe]

​@@bluemassgamer17zinc

[@danielanderson8322]

For all we know, Homelander had just left as soon as Billy turned toward the 🫙jar

[@Faster_than_light_yo]

why do u guys think just because he has all those powers that he will use them every time? just because we can run doesn't mean we will always run instead of walking, it's the same argument I have seen people make about Flash, just because he can move at light speed doesn't mean he will do it every time because there are some severe drawbacks to it, The whole world would stop, he will go insane because of the boredom so it's easier for them to cut loose and use their cruising speed and no Flash doesn't see everything in slow-motion while running

[@SaGeOwL4891]

Mr Urban is such an underrated actor

[@axx012]

No he isn't. By any measure.

[@connorgrieve6386]

You're tripping...

[@shadowforce420]

I knew he wouldn't kill Butcher but Antony Starr is so good I was on the edge of my seat for the whole scene, he's so good, Karl Urban as well

[@JB0523]

It’s gotta come down to these two. The final battle. Season 5 episode 10: SCORCHED EARTH

[@SucculentChineseMeal]

Scorched erf

[@TheAireaidLord]

well now that Butcher has these crazy ass tentacle parasite powers, it'll be interesting to see how level the playing field is now. He took out Neuman and her daughter like swatting a fly. Definitely establishes how powerful he's become

[@warrenroach3026]

I reckon they've taken these next two years because ultimately it will give the young actor playing Ryan Cameron Crovetti (sounds like a car or a sandwich) time to grow bigger he will learn of his mother's rape then get into a fight or turn completely evil and butcher will kill both , the deep was funny but his arc was one of destruction he can't come back from all the killing he must be killed himself 😮 love the show

[@subfreak1996]

I think it'll be a verbal confrontation between Ryan and Homelander

[@tymovetact377]

We would be so blessed to get 10 episodes. It irks my soul all seasons are just 8 episodes. I need so much more pause.

[@sng3939]

Homelander knows butcher isn’t scared due to his heart rate. That’s why he respects him.

[@aetnaone]

Always with the heart rate BS it's getting TIRESOME and boring

[@TheKain202]

@@aetnaone Exactly. People take one scene of HL realizing he ain't gonna intimidate Edgar into doing his bidding and tucking his tail in between his legs, and applying to every interaction he has. It's more likely that Butcher is scared shitless of him, but keeps a poker face and can talk back to HL with brutal honesty anyway that gets him points in HL's eyes.

[@frysco5927]

​@@aetnaone it's like the "be afraid of an old man in a profession where men die young" spam on breaking bad clips lol

[@jampig1884]

​@@TheKain202Butcher isn't afraid of anyone, but yeah your point is correct. Sick of these cringe repeated proverbs

[@CJWII]

​@TheKain202 Actually, in the comics, Homelander knows Billy Butchers heart rate IS beating fast but says it's out of hatred and excitement and not fear.

[@superdoodle7668]

Home lander lowkey admires Butcher

[@alexanderthegreat-mx5zu]

Butt Stan comes first.

[@hobanagerik]

As powerful as HL is, he is constantly shackled by his need to be loved, and looked up to. He admires, and perhaps envies Butcher, because he recognises that he is free. Able to do what he wants, relatively unquestioned. A slave to Vought, even though he could wipe them out at will.

[@aaronrosby1644]

I don’t believe homelander meant a genuine physical fight as in they show up somewhere a fist fight. He meant it in the sense of “this is war” more of a long term thing between them, like chess, and yes it would likely eventually end in one of them dying (although homelander knows the power difference between them and he would instantly win) but he also knows about Butchers capabilities as a tactician, and his determination, and his lack of fear for anyone especially homelander. So it was in that frame if mind when they made that deal. And that’s also why homelander was genuinely surprised when butcher had powers in herogasm because it’s something he wouldn’t expect and didn’t/couldn’t predict.

[@generallegath974]

Thing is he says they made a deal to "fight to the death" in the Herogasm episode. So that almost certainly means a physical fight; it's a bit weird to refer to a tactical battle that may eventually lead to one of their deaths that way.

[@tonyj9203]

😂😂 *(**3:24**)* They way Butcher sipped at that moment. Made me realize he'd NEVER align himself with Homelander.

[@Alrokako]

He kind of did against SB

[@xxxhades1204]

compare his "may I come in" in this scene vs when he first met sisters sage really shows how much he respects butcher to wait for an answer

[@UknowMarcJ]

When Homelander just sits down across from Butcher I knew this scene would be awesome

[@StudioRevoct]

Feel like this is the adaptation of Stillwell's scene from the comics, specifically the way he shows up at the window menacingly. It's definitely not the same, but it might be their take on it.

[@benjaminb6678]

I’m still hoping we get that scene from the comics tbh

[@JoeJoe-yn5lc]

He can be himself around butcher and probably feels butcher understands him to a degree. He doesn’t have to put on his media mask and actually will have a conversation with someone who is not just saying what they have to in order to survive. Only Butcher can give him that kind of conversation cause even tho Stan is also not scared he undermines homelander but Butcher takes him serious.

[@emetanti]

Their take on that was his scene with Stan Edgar that ended in him being called "Bad Product" which is the exact phrase Stillwell used for him.

[@dannypitcherenterprises2414]

@@benjaminb6678me too with Homelander and Edgar. That was the best moment in the comics.

[@Ares2606]

Their dynamic is so well written.

[@mattholland547]

For me this is where season 4 really fell short. Only having one scene between these two great actors all season was a crime.

[@MisterUrbanWorld]

Why do you think Butcher has new powers for? It's for Season 5 which will be the finale.

[@JohnnyCage-td5ud]

Shut up

[@PCProphecy]

Anthony plays his role so well that even though he's a villain, I will feel sad to see his character finally die. Homelander, Butcher, and Soldier Boy really do carry the entire series. (I wish Edgar would take the V SPOILER just like Ashley to make their characters more relevant).

[@andydrums4333]

Both of them need Emmy's now

[@dakkuri1]

I just like and how he asked for permission to come in to butcher's apartment. Anyone else he just barges in, butcher he has a lot of respect for her so that's why he asked first. Cuz you know deep down butcher doesn't fear Him

[@isrj01]

This scene could easily have taken place in a bar, with the two drinking a beer and chatting the exact same thing.

[@donyjedimind9111]

Homelander never went to a bar (?)

[@SergioMendoza760]

It does intrigue me how Homelander has basically found the only person in the world who can actually relate to him. Billy isn’t as much of a homicidal maniac as Homelander is (at least in the show the comic is a different story altogether) but Billy’s still very dangerous. And Billy will throw caution to the wind when it comes to getting even with Homelander, even if that means putting people at risk Billy will do it and not think twice about it. I think it’s really telling that they agree to the scorched earth ending, I feel like more than anything that says how much damage Billy would really do if given the chance.

[@sfadasfsfds3208]

pitbull named cupcake (homelander) vs the pitbull named destroyer (butcher)

[@yoshijb9428]

Terror dips**t not destroyer.

[@dudlEEk]

one of the coolest scenes in the show imo.

[@brohoho3660]

Scorched Earth ...shock and awe. No wonder the ending is going to be an eye for an eye and the series is gonna end pretty dark.

[@ritchierich2793]

I liked how nobody mentioned the butcher monologue was a homage to the Dark Knight scene between joker and batman interrogation scene..😂😂😂 Joker was right, you got start off small you cant just go to the head all make victim all fuzzy..

[@nlawson2004]

Thought about that also, but I think that’s overall just a known point between people who work in that line of work, where they interrogate people by any means necessary.

[@bdawg5855]

Starlight than: 👱 Starlight now: 👽

[@cream583]

Body dysmorphia or for whatever reason she did that to herself is saddening

[@clydu91]

then

[@christianmcmahon1029]

You guys need help

[@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek]

​@@christianmcmahon1029 you abd starligjt do

[@christianmcmahon1029]

@@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek you can’t even spell properly lmao

[@yourdailydoseofnegativity8964]

The fact that Butcher is Homelander’s only actual friend

[@whitewhite729]

No matter what TV show it is, the story can be truly splendid when villains run into fearless and unscrupulous badass like Billy Butcher instead of nice but clueless people.

[@Kramilin]

What’s confusing about this to me is. He’s challenging Butcher to a fight, when knowing he’s a regular man. He even said he could rip him apart here if he wanted to. So how tf you gonna challenge him to a fight, that you know you’ll win with ease.

[@JT_Paxl]

With v butcher was able to put up a very good fight

[@RedditUser999]

Exactly 😭

[@confusenconquer]

he admires how determined butcher is willing to go to get at him and wants to fight so homelander will honor his wish 😂

[@commonsense9057]

It also feeds Homelander's ego knowing that butcher cannot actually fight him... That's why he 💩 when butcher took Temp V 😂

[@kashtides]

I think Homelander knows through pure tenacity he COULD find a way to kill him. Like how he was able to kill translucent

[@I_Never_Lie]

Imagine Homelander just sneaky levitating while still seating 😂

[@Theology.101]

3:46 Kessler inside of his brain: “Hell yeah you do, rip him alart with tentacles!”

[@falloutguy8566]

Nope. He never took the temp V at this moment so he didn't have the cancer

[@manasdn5219]

Homelander- lands at people's homes

[@tomimpala]

Me when homelander home landed all over butcher and said "it's homelanding" time

[@mustacheman3000]

@@tomimpala maybe the real homelanding time was the friends we made along the way

[@mightisright]

The Homelander / Butcher conflict is the heart of the show to me

[@Adarkane325xi]

Possibly my favorite scene in the entire series, thus far. Two great actors chewing dialogue. Kripke’s a TDS-addled POS.

[@andrewaustin3836]

Man what is it with this new season there’s no nuance anymore it’s almost like a parody of what the show was

[@andrewaustin3836]

@@Adarkane325xi I’m not even gonna lie man that last episode felt like something only viewable on the dark web I’ve already repressed every scene except the Homelander ones

[@andrewaustin3836]

@@Adarkane325xi oh you mean the twist that it’s all in his head?

[@AP500yd]

Interesting how Homelander refers to humans as mud people but when talking to Butcher he says "us".

[@kevinforget549]

clearly with how many times butcher has crossed paths homelander and is still alive shows he sees butcher as above the rest, probably above most supes as he actively treats most with disgust. I think its also because he desires butchers authenticity, butcher never has to fake who he is and homelander probably wishes the same as hes surrounded by fake.

[@kaizenzx_kzx]

Scorched earth as a theme makes me wonder what the final fight between these two will look like. Even now that Butcher has super cancer tentacles like Venom. Season V, here we come, in 2 years time.

[@kevinforget549]

I like how when homelender related his frustration about being a obsolete plaything on a shelf he says US instead of me and is referring to both him and butcher, who can relate as he was basically thrown away as a former CIA operative and then only brought back when he showed his usefulness again, being expendable and used for dirty work.

[@DanielJones-r9h]

I want a spinoff that consists of these two hanging out at Butcher's place after work, roasting each other, commiserating, and watching soap operas while eating popcorn.

[@chrisbarnett5593]

Every hero needs a villian. Every villian needs a hero.

[@axx012]

These two are just villians at each other's throats

[@TheSerpent21]

Butcher is probably the only person on the planet that Homelander can't intimidate or torture into giving him intel because he is pretty much just like him. Damaged beyond repair, only difference is Butcher seems to take pride in it I think more.

[@james_9190]

that tea doesnt have any tea in it, shocking

[@Swarm509]

"Rip and Tear!" Yeah, Urban can get behind that for sure.

[@kevincruz1983]

1:08 “ this had me dying 😭😭

[@Dracos210]

In different circumstances they could be quite good friends probably, imagine such chaotic and dangerous duo

[@ismaeldominguez1582]

Probably the biggest wish for season 5 is for one of the episodes (specifically episode 7) to be called “scorched earth”. Idk what would happen but hopefully it will be a bloodbath!

[@pic402]

This is my favorite scene in the entire show

[@Rainman99684]

Homelander is so polite he lands and patiently waits outside and then asks “May I come in?”. What a sweetheart

[@Ally.Cat.252]

I never understood this? Did homelander know butcher had V? If he didn’t why challenge him to a fight? What kind of fight does he think human butcher could put up against him.

[@bloop1980]

A fight didnt neccessarily imply a literal hand to hand fight.

[@Ally.Cat.252]

@@bloop1980 battle to the death one left standing, scorched earth…

[@bloop1980]

@@Ally.Cat.252 Death, can happen in more ways than one, and scorched earth can refer to just destroying anything you value or do anything in order to "win"

[@playerone9824]

He said it clearly, sport.

[@CJWII]

​@@bloop1980What does one man standing mean then, einstein? Cut the crap lol

[@ysfex3sew]

Man asks to come in like he's a fking vampire. I could see him in the next twilight sequel.

[@mckenziepictures]

At least one of these men deserves an Emmy.

[@tylerb3023]

“Scorched Earth”

[@ash.d2101]

It’s “scorched erff”

[@ImaTigerLama]

@@ash.d2101 more van enyfing

[@emperorreign6154]

They’re the furthest thing to friends as you can get, and yet, Butcher is still the closest thing to a friend Homelander has ever had. He could have killed him 100 times over but he won’t, because he entertains him too much.

[@ibrahimalee23]

Black Noir was the closest thing homelander had to a friend, Butcher was the closest thing Homelander had to a rival.

[@Radioactivepaladin0703]

These scene is actually goated we don't realise

[@wayneanderton4953]

This was so dumb. Homelander didn't know Butcher would shoot himself up with V. So why challenge him to a fight? What chance would Butcher have? It's like Superman challenging Batman to a fight where he can't use Kryptonite

[@katamas832]

I don't think Homelander ever thought it is going to be a 1v1 between them, but rather Butcher trying to do him like they did Translucent, and Homelander trying to avoid that and eventually come out on top. And then finishing Butcher once he has thrown everything he had at Homelander.

[@ComicsForLife2023]

He wasn’t talking about a physical one on one. Fuck. Can’t you tell from the dialogue and their history that it’s about wits ?

[@SucculentChineseMeal]

oof man, such a simple take on this. Homelander was referring to a battle of tactics and wits on a master level, last man standing wins. Homelander knew they figured out how to take down Translucent and other supes so is challenging Butcher to throw everything at him.

[@thavidu78]

That's literally the point. Homelander is a narcissist. He knows it's an unfair fight he would always win and he's trying to stroke his ego.

[@roberthyde00]

Its not so much that he challenges Butcher to a Fight. Its more like he is offering Butcher his death wish which includes burning the rest of the world around them.

[@alessandroguarrera2203]

Somewhere, there's a parody where Homelander pulls out a tennah.

[@Wolfencreek]

I'm not onboard with that friendship 😂

[@dovahkiin201]

After all this they don’t even talk in season 4, what the fuck

[@Afflictamine]

Exactly lol s4 was dogshit

[@hugodunder4174]

They did in the first fucking episode

[@AndersonsethSMA]

It's pretty on point for this version of homelander that the person he relates to the most at this point is the person that wants him dead more than anyone else

[@BradiKal61]

Homelander is unmatched in strength and abilities and has disdain for every other person, but he appears to feel that Butcher is his equal in anger and supressed rage, and respects him for that like he respects nobody else.

[@FunkSoulBrother7]

This is maybe a hallucination of Butcher, like in season 4

[@Holulosamo]

No, in Herogasm Homelander mentions their deal

[@impersonal6650]

Homelander could've seen and smell the Temp-V.

[@blackAngelProductions]

I actually kinda admire homelanders dedication to wanting to be a father probably his only redeemable trait

[@arcstridephantom1600]

They HATE eachother YET this man is opening up to butcher…

[@TipsyLoveLetter]

Don’t feel like we’ve had anything close to this single scene in 5eps of s4.

[@alexwakefield6743]

While it was the weakest of the 5 so far, homelander facing his past was pretty compelling. You almost sympathized with him

[@tobsonasanya4765]

Eh

[@Ironcorgi2]

Homelander only made this challenge cause there is no physical way butcher can kill him

[@migek]

He didn’t know about the temp v. So you’re right yes but That’s why after herogasm homelander was scared

[@gravis2000]

I know Homelander hates Butcher but he does respect him because there is no B.S. there is no pretense between the two of them.

[@KhaosMerX]

I keep thinking Homelander was planning on GIVING Butcher Compound V.

[@ChronoJedi]

You seem like a calm reasonable person

[@lesterjones5278]

Butcher in this scene is literally Eminem's song "Guts over Fear"

[@Shootskas]

The most implausible aspect of this series is that Butcher is still alive. Homelander would have killed him at the end of Season 1.

[@Leemillion_xM]

People who complain about Homelander just being able to kill them all if he wanted to miss the point. Yes he could, but it’s not who he is. They’re a mild annoyance at best and he doesn’t view them as a real threat.

[@stardust1het1ventje]

this scene could be a movie

[@lonecourierjoeyv2133]

Homelander really respects billy in his own fucked up way He knows butcher is just a petty little human he could snap like a twig if he wanted to. But he doesnt, because billy knows who he is, what he is & he just isnt afraid. He is amused & intrigued by it. Billy is one of the very very few ppl homelander will honestly open up to because of this. Because what is there to hide when you’re with someone who’ll honestly not be surprised with anything you do or think?

[@ray070784]

by far in the series, there are only 2 ppl in this world that never ever get intimidated by Homelander, Butcher and Stan Edgar. Now i'm not saying the others don't have a guts against, but only those two that can keep calm and didn't event flinch when facing with Homelander

[@stefanilic0421]

I love how Homelander, even though he is neigh invincible, challenges Butcher, a regular human to fight to the deathe because he just knows Butcher is gonna do everything and find some way to hurt him

[@maltpatriot4919]

Homelander landed without destroying dude patio.

[@Honey-Badgerin]

Both men have taken something invaluable from each other, yet still feel like their destiny is to make sure the other goes down, even if they go down doing it. It's a delectable revenge story where their disdain of being held back brings them closer to tearing each other apart.

[@timidhobgoblin207]

Seeing Homelander get so frustrated in season 4 that no one challenges him or questions his orders makes this scene even better imo. He hates Butcher but at the same time utterly respects him for the simple fact that he doesn't show a single ounce of fear at the notion of telling a near literal God to go fuck himself. I think the only other character that would possibly get similar respect for the size of his cast iron balls would be Stan Edgar.

[@ComicsForLife2023]

Fuck Edgar. I can’t stand how everyone praises every fkn character that actor does. It’s annoying.

[@Zulu-Lemon]

He always asks to come in like a vampire

[@ComicsForLife2023]

True. Homelander is a fascinating villain.

[@Stevesautopartsify]

Seriously! Exactly what I thought when he said it!

[@lolam4209]

Homelander looks like a Nsync doll from the it’s gonna be me music video

[@tomimpala]

There's always been an interesting mirroring of HL and butcher. This last season they were both losing it, season three they were bonding over how Newman and Vought were both watering down their businesses. I'm sure S1 and s2 have parallels too.

[@MajicMarco]

I imagine homelander was looking through the walls just to check for ryan. How would he not have seen the temp V in the cookie jar

[@biggsleezy]

2 Kiwis playing an American and a British character, how amazing?