Windows 11 vs Tiny 11: Does Debloating Offer Better Performance?

[@srvuk]

I thought that the general reason for Tiny 10/11 was to enable things to run more smoothly on lower end systems, especially those with small amounts of RAM. So for me, this gaming test was not really in the right ballpark to begin with.

[@nikolygtx8848]

Yes if person that does benchmarks its not stupid as this person its, any difference possible to see will be on Cpu and Hdd side and he its putting resolution that wont show that

[@failxsquadxgaming2507]

Exactly! If you have 8 or even on some games 16Gb of ram, then you will see the difference but especially at the 8Gb mark. Also the cpu matters if you have the low clock speeds under 2.4Ghtz or a lower core count like 4 but with any modern cpu made in the last 5 years this shouldn’t be an issue. Mainly the ram

[@ayliniemi]

​@@nikolygtx8848harsh

[@nawazwaseem2219]

Not to mention much improvement in battery life

[@nikitf7777]

Is is a useless video, because it don't show the difference in CPU usage, but only GPU. If performance of the game depends on CPU, it will run better on Tiny11@@capofantasma97

[@gearfriedtheswmas]

Friendly advice: debloating won't eliminate bottlenecks from gpu, run these tests again on 1080p then we'll talk.

[@MuzdokOfficial]

@@broseidon2519 totaly true. On my LG Oled Cx i can feel everything getting stuttery and not as smooth under 90 fps. (120hz oled)

[@MuzdokOfficial]

also getting more blurry the more low you go.

[@VikingDudee]

Well I mean he did run GTA5, and from experience that game loves CPU clock cycles, doesn't really matter the res, I was actually sorta expecting a difference but there wasn't any.

[@aaronjones4529]

​​@@VikingDudee yeah but he's running a relatively decent multi core CPU... Certainly good enough for GTA5 and overhead... Generally speaking, IMHO, these debloated Windows installs are effective for rejuvenating the in-Windows user experience with older, deprecated hardware: try again with a Ryzen 1000/2000 series or Intel

[@jerrytpl]

@@SuperiorMind wat, humans can definitely see past 60fps lol. There's a reason whe every pro gamer plays on 144hz+ it's like night and day.

[@timothyhood2827]

I would like to see a test of a lesser system. My GPU is rather wimpy.

Tiny Windows is made for that. The test done in this video kind of doesn't make sense.

[@yushaaangamia9599]

I installed Tiny11 on my laptop and it ran much better than Windows 11. Yes I would love to see you test Tiny11 on a lower end system

[@Rasv-]

I have forza horizon4 on the windows app store, will it work you think?

[@mumarsays]

Which edition of win11? & was it activated?

[@EndermanVV]

@@mumarsaysis based on windows 11 pro and i have not found a way to activate it even with a genuine key

[@10esseeTony]

An RTX 3060 at 4k? And you expect improvements from the OS at 4k? Please stop wasting our time.

[@Flockingtheherd]

It’s 1440p not 4K bud

[@miroslavpaulovic17]

@@Flockingtheherd 2560x1440 is resolution for 1440p or 2k, this is almost 4k, but his monitor have too wider aspect ratio, so for regullary 4k - 3840x2160. but doesnt matter at all, he is right, you cant measure cpu performance, when your gpu is permanently at 100%. Ths is just stupid. Dont trust every youtuber bro :D

[@heliopkad]

@@miroslavpaulovic17 100% right

[@keancv]

Yes mate, be interesting to see how tiny 11 compares on a more modest system as I suspect that is what it is meant for

[@gerritvisser]

The benefit of de-bloating is in reducing memory and disk space. the reduced cache would also mean less swapping/disk usage to load those apps when they wake up And, perhaps more usefully, reduced downloads for updates of now-not-installed apps. The latter is why I am using it to build a system for someone who is on satelite internet.

[@CyberCPU]

That's definitely a benefit.

[@polymatrix]

I tested Tiny 11 vs Win11 for battery life, thinking fewer system resources would show an improvement. My test was very limited, but one commenter suggested that the reason Win11 got the better battery life was because: the relevant Windows services that optimize for battery life were missing from Tiny11.

[@smalldeekgeorge]

Yes that's definitely the reason!

[@nope3015]

That’s the most Microsoft thing I’ve heard all day

[@stevedoetsch]

Yes please run the test with a CPU bound computer because that will show us whether or not tiny 11 is worth the effort since we have to make it ourselves

[@carlosdj81]

Hi friend, I would be interested in seeing how the Tiny 11 operating system works on a computer that is 10 to 12 years old.

[@kourgath007]

I am fairly certain that most folks that are looking to reduce the amount of telemetry data that is being collected by Microsoft. Maybe you could do some comparisons between default Windows 11 and a Tiny11 install that compares the amount of data that leaves your computer without your knowledge. Additionally, I am fairly certain that the number of running processes is dramatically lower on Tiny 11 upon initial install.

[@Bladie2004]

Dude you have a crazy build out there. there's nothing much to change in those numbers. Even gaming in default windows 11 I doubt it uses at 100% your memory. basically it designed to improve the performance of low-end pc like something with i5 cpu ,8gb ram like that.

[@alexb.1320]

With the processing power and speeds we got today, finding any practical differences is probably next to impossible. Turn back the clock to when terminating a bloat process made an immediate noticable difference, debloat made a heck of a difference. These days, I think the shift needs to be more concerned with keeping telemetry and privacy robbing bloat from running in the background.

[@patricktrakzel9657]

Indde. Back in the days I made a tiny ME. It occupied 268 Mb instead of 600 and something. That made a huge difference on lower end PC's, but not so much on higher end. That still is the rule today. If a game is optimized to use 4 GB of RAM, it doesn't matter if you run a comparison on a system with 16 GB e.g. Your OS using 4 or 2 would not make a diffenrence on the high end system but would make a difference if you only have 4 GB to begin with.

[@TheSamdroidOnline]

Tiny 11 is meant for older/entry level computer systems. That's where you see the difference in performance. Laptops are still being sold with 4GB of RAM running Windows 11, and that's where you will see the performance boost regarding Tiny 11.

[@hristomir-zw6bg]

Yes you have to test that with 4 or 8 GB of RAM i am kinda disposition because 32GB of RAM is overkill 😅

[@mlfbangr7081]

Will Tiny11 increase the lifespan of a device running their main OS on a SD?

[@TempleKa]

I doubt there will ever be much difference between a fresh stock Windows install and a debloated one in games. What I believe would be noticeable is a difference in daily tasks, especially on older hardware with less RAM, or older/cheaper laptops that some just use to browse the web, watch a movie, KZbin and so on. So just opening/loading a browser or an extra tab and watching a YT video would be much better on a debloated system that has like 4GB-8GB of RAM and a slower CPU.

[@root4-all]

Windows efficiently utilizes available RAM based on your system's capacity. It's very good with RAM management, automatically reallocating resources when required by other programs. The RAM utilized by Windows is not due to unnecessary overhead or "bloat"; rather, it intelligently caches frequently used programs, ensuring faster access and responsiveness when opening them.

[@themadmallard]

@@root4-all except it doesnt as much as you might think. Its just we have SSDs now which hide this thrashing of the system constantly at work compared to mechanical drives you can hear as they work.

[@root4-all]

​@@themadmallard I did not intend to imply that Windows RAM management works wonders. My intention was simply to clarify that the utilization of RAM is a feature of Windows (and a good one) and not a flaw. Furthermore, I find your use of the term "thrashing" quite vague and misleading. What constitutes as "trashing?" Even attempting to comprehend the operations of computers in the 90s can be overwhelming. Compatibility aside, imagine trying to run an OS from the 90's on a computer from the 80's and one would be hard pressed to say the computer isn't getting thrashed. You see, it is all relative. Modern computers are significantly more advanced than their predecessors, and they are designed to handle the demands placed upon them by both end users and the Windows operating system. Therefore, while Windows RAM management may not be as sophisticated as some may believe, it ultimately does not matter because it fulfills its purpose effectively.

[@ApexLodestar]

This was great and it goes to show you even bloated W11 is optimized enough at least for gaming.

[@Phoenix97579]

He tested it on a rather powerful system, so it’s normal that there isn’t much difference. Tiny11 is meant for lower-end devices, not top gaming PCs.

[@Toutvids]

You will never see gaming improvements at those resolutions. People use Tiny 11 to help on old hardware (laptops usually). I swear you know very little about computers.

[@badbadfull]

How can I contact you? I need assistance, I will pay! It's regarding the video you made called "Secure Boot Messed UP My Computer". I have 2 tasks, convert from MBR to GPT and also enable UEFI on my windows operator in order to be able to boot up in UEFI mode without losing any data.

[@tom-four]

2:21 "that stupid watermark that come with running an unactivated copy"

[@Wolterhon]

Bro just said about downloading from reputable sources and then tells about a hella shady key store that certainly sells either stolen keys or just OEM keys that are not meant to be sold GJGJ

[@eriksiers]

I remember complaining about XP taking over a gig of drive space, and declaring that I'd stick with 2000 as long as possible.

[@failxsquadxgaming2507]

You have too much ram and too high end of a cpu to see the difference. Drop down to 8Gb and test that on tiny vs regular, then do a test at 16Gb and then finish off with the 32Gb. What you’ll see the difference is mainly in ram amount and speed/cache and not just a “wow tiny 11 is great”.

[@Beauc4652]

I did the debloat with the answers file and installed the new image this morning. Gaming performance hasn't changed much, but the snappiness of the system in navigating around various things, including just internet browsing is noticeable. Not to mention the boot time being mere seconds. I like it. And now it only contains exactly what I've installed and nothing extra- the way it used to be.

[@ghamaleeonparallel9410]

Appreciated your video! I recommend checking out the Ghost Spectre ISO as well.

[@TheNetRiper]

Ghost is debloated and TWEAKED for gaming. Tiny 11 is just debloated. So Ghost will be better one.

[@TheNetRiper]

@Dr Redneck Its not for daily use, just for isolated gaming machine. If you get it from right place is clean. For daily use i run win 10 debloated by me with MSMGtoolkit and CTTwinutil.

[@gamerking64]

IMO Tiny11 is just a scam, it doesn't do anything special interms of performance, numbers aren't the real show... AtlasOS is the best custom windows, although it's only win10 (win11 coming soon) but there is ReviOS 11 which is the best win11 iso till this date!

[@ridakesserwan8712]

you ran it on a high end moderb machine, which defeats the whole purpose of tiny11 try it on a ryzen 3 apu with 8 gb ram or some other modest system with non upgradable ram it would be a life saviour

[@GHz199]

Why did you test your cpu performance with high resolution that limit your system with gpu bottleneck ?

[@djromeo1985]

I was going to make a tiny 11 iso. Now im not so sure. I would love to see the test again on a different system.

[@fbifido2]

also, would love to see the CPU: Processes & Threads

[@spunky1682]

Nah Man you should make your own debloated copy of iso or just clean install and debloat it heavily after installation This guy is testing games which are story based and on 4k and on high end system which doesn't really affected by debloating. When you test on budget systems on 1080p resolution with some serious competitive games like apex, valorant you'll get to know how these debloated system have huge improvement in game stability almost no stuttering good 0.1% fps and what not.

[@TheMarbix]

why call it testing while you tested it in a gpu bottleneck scenario (4k) and not in a cpu bound scenario (downscaled to 720p)?

[@ChadSigma111]

you are using an overkill hardware, so obviously saving 5% on resources won't help a lot. Try testing it on an budget system

[@astrojade4802]

I installed Atlas OS on my laptop recently. My specs are i5 5250u 920m 4gb and 8gb ram. I am getting much better performance than originally. If i have to compare the differences between original and after debloating, id say are 2 to 3 gb free ram since i dont have Win Defender runnning in the background anymore. Games not that much fps difference but yeah stability is more. I can now run Discord smoothly without it all the time hiccuping at every step of the way. Discord barely would even run properly on default win10 for me. Im guessing that if you have a good system, a debloater really won't show a difference since your system is good to begin with. The performance definitely shows when you are on an older system. I am not gonna go back to og Win10.

[@VikingDudee]

I tried tiny 11 on a old Q6600 system, even on a unsupported and old system, it didn't make enough of a difference for me to even care, at least for just general use.

[@5TRM]

Seems like kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6anaWWjlpp4j6M did an almost exact copy of your video.

[@CyberCPU]

Wow, it's more than a copy. They ripped off my entire script and even used my screenshots and test results.

[@5TRM]

@@CyberCPU Yes! I was researching Tiny 11 and noticed everything was same.

[@clappbacktv]

This is just a waste of time see no difference I will stick to windows those third-party os is scams all around

[@TheMikkaht]

As you said, would be interesting to see performance difference on a lower end system, or on 1080p res as the CPU bottleneck will be more prevalent

[@FallenstarPR-f1w]

Can I set a new system from the start with tiny ?

[@ExcelInstructor]

What is your opinion on NT Lite and debloating it myself? Mr rich?

[@CyberCPU]

Already did a video. Should be out in a couple weeks.

[@ExcelInstructor]

@@CyberCPU great :) Im just wondering: you were plannig ona video on NT Lite, or did you just make the video based on my comment? (im simply curious, and yes curiosity killed the cat ) :)

[@CyberCPU]

@@ExcelInstructor I made it based on the overwhelming responses I got from many people that wanted it.

[@FreeJAC]

Win11 has a game optimizer built in when you fire up a game so that is why no difference

[@itsaperfectdork]

On full blown setups like yours and mine aint gonna see much difference in performance. I would like to see the the comparison on a lower spec pcs. Im gonna be getting a NucBox5 which is 4 core 4 thread intel pc. Debloat iso might come in handy there.

[@BWGPEI]

As I found out the hard way, de-bloating MS Windows 10 does not last past the first day it gets to "call home" - which is why my current MS Windows 10 can't "call home" which bother me not at all, 'cause the other side of the dual-boot is Linux Mint which is quite safe to allow internet access.

[@marstedt]

Tiny 10 23h1 x64 (NTDev) - vs - Micro Win 10 LTSC (Ted T361) ?

[@70rn]

If tiny basically frees up memory, wouldn't the biggest gains be on systems either with lower memory (e.g 8 - 16 gb), a cluttered hdd, or both? I feel like windows tiny is more likely to effect how quickly a game/program will load, rather than how fast it will run (since ultimately that would be hard ware dependent). It might also give performance boosts in more loaded scenarios, e.g. alt-tabbing in and out with a bunch of browser windows open.

[@nawazwaseem2219]

Not to mention increased battery life in laptops

[@pironiero]

Testing tiny 11 on a beefy PC... Of course there would be no difference...

[@aelaan12]

What real world people need is to get rid of all these nonsense applications that have bought their way into the Microsoft ecosystem. I bought a nice smaller laptop (Lenovo T14) and ran some debloat on it. I have a factory Lenovo installer, in case I mess up. What needs to be removed, and takes some of the resources, are the applications such as Office, in my case also Edge has to go, Bing, Spotify and all these so-called media programs TikTok being one of them of course. A debloat is perfect for these because the uninstall application in Windows 11 does just about nothing, it removes some of the hooks, but there is no way to totally remove Edge for instance. Do I need the space? No. Do I need the memory? Well... not really either. The other worrisome processes are the Linux distributions are now also starting to include bloat.

[@singletona082]

'It looks like bloated operating systems are going to be the new norm.' Brotha... I can remember the press over windows 95 going on at how steep the memory requirements were and how much memory above the recommended to have a good experiance. EVERY OS is the worst most bloated OS to have come out.

[@bob-9876]

I would like to see you speak more about the differences between high-end and low-end CPUs. I notice a huge difference between my computer that has an Intel i5 and my other computer that has an Intel Celeron. The i5 handled a Windows 11 update not long ago that caused my Celeron to go dark. I replaced the OS on the Celeron with unbloated Win 11 (X-Lite), and it (so far) is running much better. Do you think Windows 11 is a one-size-fits-all-CPUs system?

[@dKafN8d]

I think That Tiny11 was targeted at low spec systems. I doubt it was created to benefit gamers. I fell that stripping all the useless features of Windows may (for some people) be a big benefit regardless of any system performance. I just want an OS that minds it's own business in the background and only does what it needs to do. I can add any other functionality I want without it being baked in. I believe an OS like that exist somewhere.

[@BouncingCupCake-w8g]

going from 4gb of usage in cached ram to less than a gig sounds amazing enough for me. if i have to install windows 11 eventually, i might just get the tiny iso version so that i can save on ram. because not all of us can get the latest ram sticks when ever we want.

[@CyberCPU]

I recommend building the ISO yourself like I did in the last video.

[@TheNetRiper]

@@CyberCPU Can you make a video to show how easy is download of windows 11 ISO and removing apps during its building with UUPdump and CustomAppsList. (Not for me, for others)

[@CoolDudeClem]

Will Microsoft ever learn? People keep making de-bloated ISOs of Windows, it means they obviously don't want the useless bloat, so Microsoft, stop adding bloat! It's common sense!

[@rationalbushcraft]

WOW those are results I would not have expected. This just goes to show that the OS doesn't have the effect you would think. I guess I don't need to see in a cpu bound system. From these results I can't see that it will make any difference in a cpu bound system either.

[@EquaTechnologies]

"tiny11" is for slow computers, not for supercomputers. That's why there is so difference. Also, it removes all these BLOTAFUL apps, like Teams was making the fan spin SO much and when i stopped it it became quiet agin

[@gamemaster54_TR]

Windows become smarter over the years. It will allocate sources accordingly between the apps and the game that being played so its normal not to see differences between debloated windows and the stock one.

[@ThatOneGuyC]

how the hell is ur windows 11 only using 2.9gb on a new install, i have 16gb of ram and it was using about 4gb when i first installed it (it now uses 5gb idle with many programs installed) and you'd think it would be using even more ram on a 32gb system like the one in your video

[@NundedieCH]

Are there remarkable differences for a user who does not play games? (Let's say, a Office, Photoshop and video editing user)

[@WellsJhones]

I'm using a debloat version of w10 Nexus lite on my old pc with Celeron 847 and I can say that's the only way to use a modern system, stock it only run win8 I tried PhoenixOS lite w11 and run smooth the problem is that this system don't have sleep mode, I don't like to force shutdown every time.

[@cpypcy]

Why not just save installed disk images of different window versions and you won't have to configure different configs every time?

[@the_red_gamer]

The reason the performance was pretty much the same is because that os is designed for power saving and to be for low end systems with not much ram and since the ram the games were using was not gonna go over the maximum, no performance was throttled down, so Tiny 11 losing was just because of course there will be some variations of cpu and usage and other stuff and it just got more unlucky with it

[@nubnoobbo]

Windows 11 has services that allow it to run smoother, my theory is that Tiny11 disables those services, making it slower.

[@hazeysgarden]

What if you just bought a used gaming laptop that’s a few years old so you can play with your GF at her house? Would debloating a model that’s a few years old help it? It runs pretty slow and the load times are atrocious. It does play the game I want it to, but starting up, and getting the game to load, or just doing normal things on the laptop is pretty bad.

[@jaggsbs4066]

Please do run the test on a lower system I would love to see the results

[@blakepace]

Wow. Another myth debunked. Thanks!

[@SpeckyNation]

I watched a few videos on Tiny 11, and it seems Tiny 11 only really help computers that can barely run games. Useless for those of us with high end gaming PC's

[@Hardcore_Remixer]

Bruh, Tiny11 is nothing in comparison to actually serious Windows 11 custom ISOs. Ghost Spectre, Windows X-Lite, Nexus Lite OS, ReviOS.

[@JonoHalle]

Try this on a potato system, See what happens, would be interesting.

[@CyberCPU]

Already did. It's filmed and should be released in the next couple of weeks.

[@narayanamurthybabu7302]

Just wondering if all youtubers are idiots. You should be testing the memory bottlenecks. Games like watch dogs 2, ac unity syndicate origins etc were performing poorly on my 8gb windows 11. Especially origins was stuttery unplayable considering I was above the recommended requirements. After upgrading to 32 gb, all those games performance just skyrocketed. Above 60fps. Memory usage of all these games were around 12 to 16gb. And on idle windows just takes up 8 to 9gb. That's the real issue here. So u should've spent ur time testing this very thing. A game that runs on windows 7 doesn't run on windows 10 or 11 because of the indane memory usage it needs. And does tiny 11 fix that.

[@ipKonfig]

in all my years I have never seen any games benefit from a deblote ISO of Windows. It's a sugar pill always best to tweak the OS in the registry to gain performance

[@atnfn]

Considering tiny 11 lost nearly all of the within margin of error results. It seems that if anything it's a "tiny" bit worse.

[@JamesSmith-ix5jd]

Debloating significantly helps some old systems 2010-2017 era, and low ram/cpu cores, and especially it helps with HDD. I have some old Intel Celeron 2 cores 2GHz, and 8Gigs of ddr3 + HDD as the system drive. Without debloating the system is literally not usable even for browsing/text entry. But with debloat it become almost as fast as the 5GHz systems (minus the launch speed obviously because of HDD).

[@ItzDogo]

My computer is terrible I get under 60 FPS in minecraft java (on windows 10) could you test windows, 10 and 11 and tiny 11?

[@i--dont--know]

Heavy debloating and using custom ISO's: EVERYTHING IS STUPID if you have a PC newer than 7 years besides disable telemetry, uninstall not needed software, disable not needed services, enable/disable useful/not useful group policys. ALL this can be done easily without knowing much about PC's with software like: O&O ShutUp 10/11, ThisIsWin 11 or the new amazing Bloat Nosy. After testing almost every debloated ISO's after a couple Windows updates and installing the softwares you need is not a much difference and 100% you will encounter bugs when Windows needs features now disabled or deleted. Lots of times Daddy Microsoft changed how things works and if now missing from OS and can't be added/installed you need to reinstall it. Happened to me multiple times

[@x0vg5hs1]

4k benchmark in GPU capped scenario is exactly type of workload you can't see difference in between Foundation OS that is lighter or heavier on CPU cycles. I play just 3 games. Tarkov, Apex legends, COD. all of these are CPU capped perforamnce boost is 3-5% to 1% low fps and framegraphs conserning frametime are much smoother.

[@Kastigador19]

I wouldn't expect a debloated Windows copy to run games better. Microsoft has done a pretty good job making games take priority on Windows. A lot of the features for Windows 11 are also useful for optimizing performance and quality of life. I don't mind the always connected nature either. HOWEVER I do have a home server running Windows 10 right now. It's a glorified file server that I also run Plex on. The base hardware is about 7 years old and I don't think I could install Win 11 on it. I have plenty of memory mind you and a decent SSD system drive, just wanted something stripped down to deliver basic file share services without all the other pointless stuff that's pushing Microsoft cloud services on you. Right off the bat, a Tiny 11 iso install doesn't force you to sign in to Microsoft services upon install(it creates a local account) and therefore it doesn't sync OneDrive and load a bunch of other Microsoft account synced junk to user profile I never wanted for a home server I almost never log on to locally. I could install/run Windows Server but that gets harry with desktop pc consumer hardware driver support. So I'm trying out Tiny11 now to see if I can recreate my server environment without issue in a VM. If so I will likely rebuild the system OS with Win 11 sepcially now that it supports Microsoft updates.

[@Jeffs40K]

Windows X-Lite 'Optimum 11 23H2 Pro on a 1.8 Proc 4gb Ram ... is 5.4GB Windows install, shows it using 283mb, 38.2 Cached, and 1% of the Processor. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pV6mmGydlL-Bp9E ... Love to see reviews of their X-like versions, which is better, or are they bad ... etc they are looking pretty good as far as I can see.

[@ATAKER66]

It would be interesting to see this test done on a very cheap laptop from a big box store like Walmart or Best Buy since they come packed with bloatware from the factory.

[@sprtndlx]

we don't even know what gpu you are using other than it being one of the rtx line gpus. you ran all of these at 43:18 1440 which is slightly more intensive than 16:9 1440 so I'm guessing its a 3070 or maybe even a 3080 judging performance on black mesa. Either way you didn't provide crucial information that would be relevant to these optimizations such as frame times/jitter and system latency in interrupt to process and DPC latency format. maybe this isn't meant to be a nerdy video, but it just makes it feel pretty useless to go all this way to talk about a debloated iso and not look into the numbers more. Interesting nonetheless

[@aaronjones4529]

As others (and I) have commented, you're running this generally GPU bottlenecked, and on a half decent CPU... The gains will be noticed on lower end and/or older Gen CPUs... Whilst its a bit much to ask you to test again on older hardware, you could emulate lower end hardware by BIOS limiting the number of cores and core clock speeds... Then run the benchmarks in 1080p. And you might see the difference... All this being said, your video does demonstrate that on mediocre last gen hardware, there aren't really any gains 👍

[@unkown34x33]

So... It's not the windows problem, it's the optimization from the devs for windows, that's the problem... Man I didn't know that. I don't know the new install, because of all the junk I get with it... I simply install everything from the list in the beginning. But honestly... Even when I install Windex for Windows which is a d-blowed version of Windows that is better on the deck, The games of rain much better on Linux because the optimization!

[@spunky1682]

Hey just a quick disclaimer You're testing it on high end system with heavy gpu and story based games Just test it with budget system like i3's or i5's with 50 or 60 series cards at 1080p resolution on highly competitive games like apex, valorant, csgo etc you'll get to know how debloating seriously improves your 0.1% lows and highly smooth gameplay no stuttering whatsoever. stop misguiding viewers

[@Mavrik9000]

Low-end system tests, please.

[@mazz85-]

How i missed this one ? Anyway, bloated version can couse more unwanted crashes, even if certain games perform the same, so i would always take blank version. Is why i now do the WORLD version, and not country specified, that will skipp some bloat.

[@theRealDonaldTrump666]

the general fps should be the same round about . the differences should be that micro stutters decrease in frequency. its because system processes are using the l2 and l3 caches that are on the processor die. more than 100 system processes going while playing a game they 3 stooges randomly. while i like the channel you didnt go hard with tiny 11 which can reduce the install down to megs of ram used by the system . debloated should have like 60 system processes going not 100 or 125 but im sure that was because you didnt want to break windows functionality

[@michaeljavert4635]

The only people that I can see liking Edge are people that do not care about privacy, or fail to realize that it is keeping track of everything you do and sending a dossier back to Redmond, even when not using Edge. I go out of my way to force remove it from my system, and the jerks at Microsoft keep putting it back in my box randomly. Even when I don't "check for updates" so, as soon as I figure out how to stop that, it will be that much better.

[@Käptn_Wirrbart]

Of course it won't do any differences. RAM will be freed when otherwise needs to be used. Ok, diskspace might be a benefit on those tiny 64gb MMC systems. But on all the others? in fact, missing windows components can drive you into issues. So... debloating doesn't benefit you that much.

[@bahienseCarlosLuis]

yeah, no point debloating in that pc with the 32 gb of ram, maybe if it was 8 gb ; but debloating never did much more than saving ram,not much for cpu or disk usage or something else that could affect video games running in a good pc like this one for that pc i would not even take the time, maybe just disable a few services that for whatever reason ( privacy, security, telemetry ) i don't want to have , but removing all that tiny removes ... ? nah thanks

[@shrine2975]

I don't know, what is the point of testing the games with such beefy hardware. The real system would have been i5 4th gen 8 gb ram rx 480 or 750ti

[@caribbeanchild]

Not constantly updating and all spyware gone is a bigger deal for me. A huge deal. I don't need or want tiles everywhere with Left leaning news. That's brainwashing at work there. I want an OS that I'm in charge of and runs what I tell it to run. I'm still using Windows 7 on most of my systems because it does the job.

[@jeffmcconville7008]

Windows effects CPU and RAM not GPU.. This should have been tested on Medium at 1080p. Honestly, a Cinebench Benchmark would have been more informative.

[@jimcabezola3051]

I'm not a gamer at all. However, you and all of us have often complained about how many times Windows 11 et al have to "phone home." We've heard tell that Windows is little more than spyware in and of itself. Were you able to see an increase or decrease in internet message traffic to and from Microsoft or other sketchy domains? I hope you may find this an interesting parameter to test. Mahalo for all your efforts heretofore! Aloha.

[@djthereplay]

Let me put it this way. I'm sorry to sound like Tim Cook of Apple but why should people benefit from a copycat of something that Microsoft or someone else invented? Tiny11 = copycat = ripoff.

[@stanciuflorin5087]

Hi yes I'm interested if can test in older patato pc or laptop, I'm not decided what operating system to install in older laptop Intel core Duo with 4 GB ram. What is your recommendation to install windows debloating? Linux? Or if possible to install Android version😂

[@spectra_xfx]

So obv the point of Tiny 11 is to de bloat the avg windows install. My question is since usually for gaming pcs you bloat windows yourself in a way, does tiny 11 have more of an impact on performance with your own bloat vs windows 11 bloat plus personal bloat?

[@Motishay]

Loading times are the main benefit tho. Everything is just SO much snappier on a debloated system. And as some said here, CPU bound and/or 1080p tests are the relevant benchmark here.

[@MikeJw-je4xk]

This is all good news. The point of Tiny 11 with games is not added performance. The point is do they run. And yes very well. The real point of Tiny 11 is removal of Microsoft bloatware, clutter and Spyware!

[@montecorbit8280]

Yes I want to see it!! When is it coming out?? Hope you are doing awesome!!!!

[@iixixiboy3475]

just get 4TB ssd 64GB ram better CPU and GPU+monitor = 0% bottleneck with current tech also dont upgrade any parts for 10 year.. run full Windows zero worries..

[@sterkriger2572]

Your test is flawed because your system is too overpowered. There isn't any bottlenecks and resources to spare. Try repeating this test with an i3 and 8gb of RAM with something like a 1650 or 1050 ti to see the differences

[@TheMegatron673]

Also from a video that I saw, you don't have those hardware restrictions like windows 11 currently has. Like the TPM, CPU and secure boot for example.

[@TheCaspercc]

Let your cpu stretch legs and run in 1080 or lower. Debloat is a “cpu” thing. Its kinda “stupid” running This in 4K. Atleast you have to ensure that gpu isnt reaching Max at any point.

[@SOREI]

What I do is install a legit copy of Windows 11 using the Media Creation Tool, and then I just uninstall certain things I don't care about in the Settings app except for Quick Assist, Microsoft Update Health Tools, and Remote Desktop Connection along with a few other essentials. Debloating Windows is just snake oil and can actually cause more harm than good.

[@break8941]

correct me if im wrong but i believe that is something that they implemented later on, before that tiny 11 is the only quickest alternative

[@Gabriolus]

After a family members kids destroyed my laptop they replaces it with a brand new lenovo 16iml9 laptop i noticed there is a lot of rap i know i am never going to use and stuff i have no idea what it does, so i wanted to know will t be a good its to try and replace the current 11 on my new laptop with tiny 11, and if i do replace it will tiny 11 effet the lights on the keybored,