Cyberpunk 2077: The Board Game Review!

[@Thinkworldwild]

best review of this game by a mile. great job!

[@TheKingofAverage]

Thanks so much!

[@markwilliamson3043]

What's the solo like?

[@krishokanson1881]

I really like this type of review video from your channel. Thanks for all the effort.

[@npckse8508]

I am tempted, but need to see as much as possible before I can commit. I liked the Witcher, but there wasn't enough of a game for me to enjoy long term and I sold it off.

[@Johan_Cohen]

This is the same but the game is even simpler. Take out the timer and the game falls apart. Way too simple gameplay

[@sattm8230]

Also if you are a solo player, the Witcher technically plays solo - but you're just competing against a high-score, without any actual solo mechanic. They're hiding the solo mechanic for this game, and my expectation is it won't be much more than what was there for the Witcher.

[@chacharealsmooth941]

​@@sattm8230if you are interested, they posted solo mode gameplay in the last update

[@maestro7058]

You are the best board game reviewer and news breaker! The GOAT

[@TheKingofAverage]

Thanks man, really appreciate it 🙏

[@kelly.mondragon]

Thanks for the great review.

[@TheKingofAverage]

Glad you found it helpful :)

[@CrazyPella]

Can this be played with without a timer? You mentioned a time handicap for new players, what happens if you remove the timer altogether? As a huge Cyberpunk fan, I want this game but the timed nature of this is putting me off.

[@TheKingofAverage]

So the timer goes multiple times and is the trigger for then enemies to move, spawn, etc. as long as you made a different trigger then that's fine. Perhaps a set number of turns for each player?

[@lystic9392]

Well you can but it would take away a lot of the tension and difficulty. I suggest looking at some gameplay if you haven't yet. You do take turns, making it less hectic than something like Project: Elite.

[@warpaint9385]

If you remove the timer you’ll discover there’s no game at all.

[@Johan_Cohen]

@@warpaint9385exactly, there is only some and mirrors. The gameplay is like dominos, but with a timer 😂

[@F.S.P.73]

This game is crazy expensive. Is it worth $200 after shipping and VAT (for just base game)?

[@sattm8230]

Wait until the campaign is done - to get all of the content it'll be a lot more expensive than that.

[@Ironhawx]

Is North America paying VAT too?

[@Talliesyn]

@@Ironhawx nah, that's strictly European thing.

[@andreikoenig5718]

It will be $500 before campaign is over

[@tylermiddaugh1515]

base game is less than $100. deluxe with extras is still less than $200 with all stretch goals. its only expensive if you wait until ylu cant get the deal anymore

[@tylermiddaugh1515]

to be fair, the weapons being "weak" thing is pretty accurate. hacks are way more over powered in the game too

[@Sthunderrocker]

Sometimes, and I'm looking at Cthulhu death may die, something that initially looks very simplistic and lacking depth can turn out to be intensely fun to play. Unfortunately, I tend to pass on those games initially.

[@Mcjzl]

I bought DMD and then found out it is my favorite game 😂

[@TheKingofAverage]

That's always my struggle as well. It's hard to really feel how a game plays without actually playing it. I find watching any board game played by others as boring so that didn't help me either.

[@joelbethell6879]

Glad that you pointed out the color issue. There are more color blind people than we think, and hopefully the designers put that into consideration!

[@TheKingofAverage]

I always try to point out colors, small print and low contrast. Half of our game rooms are dimly lit bedrooms and most of us on getting on the older side. Accommodations for people in various situations is something that should always be considered :) Since I struggle with oranges in particular, it's something I notice fairly often in board games actually. I know they watched the video so I'm sure they got the message :)

[@stevea7534]

Can you play multiple characters - 2 players with 2 characters each?

[@TheKingofAverage]

You could but I think it'd be hard with the timer present to go through so much. That's going over 8 card total and 2 positions. Though possible, not every gamer I feel could accomplish this well. Some certainly could, I'm sure I could, but not everyone is a "power gamer" so it's not something I'd suggest for everyone. As long as the scaling is good, and the campaign shows extensions of time for difficulty settings, I think it'd be fine with just a lower count and more turns with them

[@FreeFragUK]

I'm sorely tempted as I love the Cyberpunk universe but I honestly don't know if this is worth it as a purely solo game. Based on your review it sounds like this is one to skip.

[@leventeopelcz6203]

Orange and brown if too close is terrible UX. Pick something else! I have a game where I never ever take out one of the characters because they are so close in color to an other one that is just ridiculous. Hope they fix it because the game looks amazing otherwise!

[@eriksjogren800]

Thank you for the video

[@dobrzpe]

good review, but i'm gonna pass myself. IF i was to get it, i'd prob house-rule it to not have a timer and maybe just set a limit of rounds...

[@sattm8230]

I hate to be that guy - this company is the essence of Kickstarter FOMO and bling. Puddle deep mechanics, with lots of production value (I present to you exhibit A - a stretch goal is a sleeve you can put over your box to make the cover male or female). I don't know how this isn't being called out by these KZbinrs, yet they'll berate other companies and games for doing similar (or using apps in games, etc.). By the time the campaign is done I'll wager it'll be a $400-$500 all-in that looks nice without much else other than a timer gimmick that wears off after 5-10 hours of play.

[@TheKingofAverage]

I think there's nothing wrong with you being "that guy" - we all have various likes, dislikes, and opinions and that's totally fine. :) Some want cheaper made games, some want what they buy to as premium as it gets. Some love this style of game and others find it boring after a while. Some want to play a game they buy 100 times and some want legacy style 2 time ever through a campaign. There is nothing wrong with you feeling that way about this game or even this style of game. Others though can and will differ from yours and that's fine too. :)

[@siriactuallysara]

Well I have backed many many campaign games. I find for the most part the base game with stretch goals gives you a ton of content and you can skip the expansions and all in.

[@Ironhawx]

Can you please do a comparison review with CMONs game?

[@warpaint9385]

Totally agree.

[@williamblack6912]

​@@IronhawxCould be difficult because they are completely diffrent.

[@GoonBoard]

Great that you had some much fun with the game, and there is more since you only played the demo! Thank you for your kind words and all the feedback/suggestions!

[@TheKingofAverage]

Have had a blast! I see you already have the difficulty setting planned as well :) My wife has been asking to play again already, which is about as good a review as I can think of to be honest :)

[@warpaint9385]

Lol

[@ste1bro]

​@@warpaint9385 God, you're so dull, Warpaint. Please go away.

[@warpaint9385]

@@ste1bro Nah! Lol. Free platform buddie. Suck it up!

[@warpaint9385]

@@ste1bro not gonna happen.

[@MaterialSquid]

great channel

[@Talliesyn]

am I the only one who gets kinda stressed out by even mentioning timer generated gameplay? Me and my buddies usually like to play the cards to the most of their strangth. What if sb gets slightly paralysed by the decision like 2 minutes it's not much. I believe it would fuel the blame for taking too much time on your turn. Also I hate app games... I like my mediums to stay separate.

[@dawolvx3098]

Not a fan of a timer at all, I have enough stress all day where I have to make split second decisions on the fly. This one may not be for me. And just having people constantly press the timer to begin, press the timer to stop, look at the app, press the timer to start, press the timer to stop, repeat for each round...damn...and of course the friends with terrible dexterity playing in a hurry due to the timer knocking over the pieces, scattering the cubes, etc...ugh

[@ant6227]

Everyone seems to be raving about this game but I still find myself skeptical. I feel like I need to see a real playthrough, with real players not the developers and board game reviewers because to me it simply looks too complicated to function in real time. I know I could handle it and enjoy it, but I have been playing board games for years I'm concerned instead for my wife who had ADHD, or my son who is only ten, or that one gamer in my group who always asks who's turn it is when everyone else at the table knows its his. Point is this game looks good but I'm concerned that's mostly marketing. Without the ability to cheat the app like you mentioned I don't think this will support a playthrough with many real groups because most people don't play with groups made up entirely of board game experts.

[@WojoO]

I see Maladum on shelf. Will you cover it soon?

[@TheKingofAverage]

Yes!

[@WojoO]

​@@TheKingofAverage Can't wait! So little coverage for this title

[@TheKingofAverage]

I think they waited until it was more finalized from a production standpoint. I know they updated the cardboard a fair bit even after the campaign

[@Gamebent1]

@@TheKingofAverage From what I understand, they used the Maladum campaign to attempt to make the cardboard for Maladum in-house, but the quality was not as high as outsourcing so they went ahead and just used their normal production partner instead. This means the cardboard is the same, not updated.

[@TheKingofAverage]

Ah good clarification!

[@SkaerKrow]

Backed, but I may not hold my pledge. Timers aren’t fun, and if the game falls apart if you have a chance to play normal turns, then I worry that there isn’t enough there to make it a satisfying experience.

[@plart2006]

Same here. Also, I don't have people to play with, so I play mostly solo, and I don't think this will be fun to play solo.

[@dawolvx3098]

I agree...this will break it for me too.

[@andreikoenig5718]

I feel exactly the same. Will probably cancel. Too abstract, and timer seems to be there so you don't see how basic the gameplay is. Rolling a die trying to roll a 6 can be fun if you are on a 10 second timer. But that's wouldn't be a good game

[@grahampearson161]

Backed it, saw it was real time, cancelled my pledge ten minutes later. There is no way I can see this being enjoyable. It's a real shame because I love the theme.

[@ScytheNoire]

Only backing if it has a non-timer mode.

[@Babyboyo1]

lol. that's the main mechanic of the game. That would be like Project Elite not having a timer. The game would fundamentally be a different game. Perhaps this game just isn't for you.

[@danielsan9830]

You can easily replace the timer with houserules. I have the feeling that some people just want to whine about the timer.

[@SkaerKrow]

Uh, I have a feeling that if I have to house rule your $200 game, then I shouldn’t have paid $200 for it. Not a bright take either, trying to crap on people for giving their honest feedback. A good dev at least collects that sort of response when considering what to do with their next project. Hopefully that’s exactly what these folks do.

[@ojb1044]

So this is an 8/10?

[@psykogamerous8391]

Could you do a experienced review of the ttrpg called F.A.T.A.L

[@Deltium5683]

I do not understand the hype for this game, which I believe is solely due to the IP, when there are so many better games in this genre.

[@warpaint9385]

People buy anything because they’re addicted to fomo, including this channel.

[@Ironhawx]

@@Deltium5683 because we are weak and foolish and our purpose in life is to accrue massive debt by giving free loans to corporations so they can make money off our money, while we wait years for a game to arrive that we will never fully experience, because guess what? …another hot and new shiny campaign is here to push us into more debt. And so the cycle continues…

[@warpaint9385]

I see Lucas or whatever your name was deleted your comments lol. Why the three comments? lol. Bugged you so much after the first one you had to come back and add more but then removed them. So you’re buying two copies? Wow! ok. Here’s your 🥇. Why do I care if you buy two? If we’re playing that game then ok, I’m buying zero copies. This game is just aesthetic fomo. Fancy minis and components but lacking in well thought out mechanics. The game is mediocre at best once you strip away the timer element. This is a game I wish Eric Lang or Corey Konieczka had designed. It would’ve been a thousand times better than what GOB have done.

[@BiAir75]

„so many better games in this genre“ : Name some please!

[@Phoenix11720]

Most people probably don't know any boards games in this genre, like me

[@Ironhawx]

$500 for a beer and pretzel game? Is this Zombicide cyberpunk?

[@sm0ky12]

It's 200?? Pretty standard for a gsme with this many models

[@Ironhawx]

@@sm0ky12wait until the all-in is announced, then add shipping.

[@tylermiddaugh1515]

@@Ironhawx the all in is 175 plus shipping soooooo

[@caster-]

going all in is on you, not on the company ​@@Ironhawx

[@andreikoenig5718]

​@tylermiddaugh1515 it will be close to 500 before campaign is over . The OP is correct

[@iphatbass]

Really? This seems like a generic story driven dungeon crawler to me without any unique mechanic.

[@warpaint9385]

Knew this guy would be sold on it lol. How much was the paid review from your buddies at GOB? Not wasting my money on this mediocre beat the timer game. Cyberpunk 2077 theme slapped on that doesn’t reflect the video game. I’ve played the video game twice and can’t remember one mission I had to do that had a timer attached to it. This is purely miniature fomo. Won’t be long before people are bored of the actual game.

[@SkaerKrow]

Every Autofixer mission for El Capitan. You must have missed some content in those playthroughs.

[@tylermiddaugh1515]

ive got over 500 hours on cyberpunk and youre wrong lmao

[@warpaint9385]

@@tylermiddaugh1515 congrats 🥇I’m referring to this board game not the video game.

[@tylermiddaugh1515]

"ive played the video game twice and cant remember one mission i had to do that had a timer attatched"

[@warpaint9385]

@@tylermiddaugh1515 and your point is?