CycloTech First Flight

[@jonbuilds]

I wonder how they work calmly and effectively in that lab with the dramatic music so loud?

[@moonones]

all former Red Bull lab techies, nothing phases these guys anymore

[@visible2anyoneonyoutube]

After a while, you don't even hear it anymore.

[@parkershaw8529]

Earplugs, or ANC headphone.

[@frijoli9579]

@@visible2anyoneonyoutube under rated comment

[@rodmact6548]

😂🤣

[@cr4zyg047]

Incredible! I just wish the music was louder.

[@welytonpaz4235]

🤣

[@SirUncleCid]

HUH?????

[@rualert1602]

I wish it was music.

[@Adventures2U]

👂 WHAT??

[@Est.1993]

🤣🤣🤣

[@MrEazyE357]

Finally! I'm always telling people, "You know what these educational/science KZbin videos are missing? Loud electronic music."

[@wallytangofoxtrot4721]

Sadly, that was actually the motor prop’s sound note.

[@clayton9136]

Not a single second of that track could be considered electronic music.

[@davelowets]

Quit stealing other people's comments..

[@jaakkopontinen]

BAZZZOOWWWWWWAA

[@Born2Losenot2win]

They put it there to mask the noise the vehicle/drone makes

[@kafanovine2315]

Crew: How to make this product look cool? Sound guy: I have an idea!

[@murrijuana2842]

Every freestyle quad video ever.

[@ControlAllDa1337]

Imagine all the hard work that has gone into this. Then they make a video and everyone roasts them for the music in it 😂

[@nommy8599]

@@stp4tiger exactly. It's 100% hype 0% on why this iw even worth doing. I would like just 1 reason why/how it's anything but over-complication for the sake of it alone. Maybe you don't see that and that's why you criticise those who do (and have more idea how truly absurd the carry on is). Think about it or point out just 1 significant advantage for me over existing simple props or turbofans/jets please.

[@BD-lq4id]

If the product/technology was worthwhile or captivating, no one would be commenting on the music. It's because the music was so intense and the actual performance so lackluster that people are commenting on it.

[@fredgervinm.p.3315]

Everbody wants to build a better mouse trap...

[@vessbakalov8958]

@@nommy8599 what struck me is that the way these fans are attached, it would be easy to have wheels slip on them and use the same drive train to operate as a ground vehicle. I know too little about their efficiency, noise level, etc. It is more compact than other flying vehicles for sure.

[@nommy8599]

@@vessbakalov8958 yeah good point about the wheels. Might be able to put some thin ones there. Would need a lifting mechanism to spin them for takeoff though. And gearing for any power (pretty different rotation speeds for land vs flight). And suspension. And steering. But maybe good to get into garage something. IDK about other stuff either and do wonder if a similar size vehicle with same lift could be done with props. My impression was things are made larger with wing for efficiency, but maybe these are good for compact lift. Would've thought they'd say if it was compact and efficient but IDK.

[@uneektalent]

It looks great. I wish I could hear it without the extra background noise.

[@mattd1188]

ok, I'll do my best impression of the deafening noise that you would hear. WHUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[@Dmanning11]

What did you say? I can’t hear you!

[@davidswanson5669]

Yeah I want to know how it compares to a quadcopter that has to lift the same amount of weight. If these are more quiet then it’ll be a huge step towards assimilating them into cities.

[@benedictroberts678]

@@Dmanning11 *Drumming intensifies*

[@uneektalent]

@@mattd1188 That's better.

[@MeditationMotivation365]

I want to see the system in a smoke tunnel. Very curious of the fluid dynamics going on here.

[@longshot7601]

The Voith Schneider Propeller design has been used in tugboats for a few decades. The pitch varies as the blades travel around the cycle. Because of this the thrust vector can be in any direction perpendicular to the rotation axis. This can be very advantageous for tugboats that can move in any direction. The only advantage that I can see for aircraft is being able to more up/down and fore/aft with no pitching of the aircraft. If I remember correctly the efficiency isn't as good as a conventional propeller.

[@cytixify]

Because you watch Smarter Everyday

[@smallaxe255]

Wouldn’t that be aerodynamics?

[@jesseb0rn51]

@@smallaxe255 in physics you can treat air as a liquid

[@BarryMDHo]

Looks like a lot of thrust wasted due to 360 degree open design.

[@brettnorthey7557]

My company is developing e-Vtol in a different direction.. but i just love this ..one of the limiting factors to e-vtol is environmental particle dispersion ie FOD .. and rather than focusing trust vectoring in one direction , this has a radial factor and clearly would reduce the dust and drama associated with the future of e-vtol.. great work guys!

[@thejesuschrist]

it's like a miracle

[@circle4106]

Jesus approved.

[@senfdame528]

Sh*t´s called physics

[@obe22099]

He doesn't know

[@darrellhiggins4206]

You are verified as jesus

[@deltaxcd]

A miracle that someone provides funding for that

[@mister_needles]

When the music is so loud it renders the whole investment sus af

[@phenylmusic]

bro the music is just an action movie trailer version of the amogus trap remix if you can hear the melody

[@taggerinc2652]

When they try this hard to hype up something that's pretty straightforward, you have to wonder why. Good products sell themselves.

[@donathlinder404]

Apparently this is supposed to be the next psycho car! Stupid noise so that no one can calm down! Noise causes brain damage and this development just wants to sell pills!!!!! These developers have no respect for nature and living beings!

[@poepflater]

it is to shake loose the coins in your wallet

[@eb4305]

Congratulations, configuring the blades so they actuate correctly during the revolution is an achievement in itself. Making a craft that follows these principals is something else entirely. Well done

[@NICEFINENEWROBOT]

High rotor speed, high actuating speed, high wear. Durability questionable. (Then - who asked me) ?:o)

[@Matsci101]

This is a Voith Schneider Propeller invented in 1929. Nothing new here but is now possible for aircraft due to composites and the power of the motors we have today and the lightweight batteries. Still cool.

[@snomx2809]

your whole life depends on each and every belt not breaking...

[@1arbuzik123]

"Configuring the blades during revolution"... have you heard about helicopter?

[@kovendanr.k.1108]

is the configuration differ from those in helicopters

[@freedompowerwashingllc6199]

I appreciate someone doing something completely different no matter how good or bad the final outcome is..this is what i consider to be true innovation!

[@dr.origami4991]

Inovation on what?? Noise power?!? Inovation.... pff

[@freedompowerwashingllc6199]

@@dr.origami4991 send us some links of new stuff youre out there trying to do! Personally im still trying to figure out how they directionalized the airflow of the 4 squirrel cages downward...

[@alanwatts8239]

The loud music must be to mask just how noisy this thing is.

[@BoopSnoot]

WHAT

[@stewartpidasle6165]

I covered my speakers

[@davelowets]

Anything that flies will be "loud". Wise up.

[@alanwatts8239]

@@davelowets Then how do you explain my joke flying over your head without you hearing it?

[@linkbond08]

Yes it's basically a drone with extra steps, they'll go into obscurity in about 5 years.

[@Axiomatic75]

What I want to know is how efficient this is compared to normal propellers.

[@skyrex4694]

exactly and the noise level too🤔👌👍

[@jan-hg9vi]

Not efficient compared to propellers. Way to much waisted energy. It will have to depend completely stability management systems. Great effort but it will never be more than an experiment. This looks like it would be better in the water than the air.

[@Axiomatic75]

@@jan-hg9vi Thanks for the answer. Makes no sense to build it then as even with propellers quadcopters can't stay in the air very long because batteries aren't energy dense enough.

[@NicholasRehm]

@@jan-hg9vi you sound like an expert that has built one before; have you actually?

[@Av-vd3wk]

Besides lack of efficiency, this thing has a major problem when it comes to losing RPM on just one motor of the four. It would surely spin out of control. Or imagine losing power to just one of the four. It would snap itself apart.

[@phillingham3167]

Now we can make 4 smoothies at once, this is a true break through

[@allnatural1992]

😄...on the way to your house!! 😆

[@DefinitelyNotaCyberCat]

Lmao

[@alvaromorenoc.9427]

🤣🤣🤣😂😂

[@13031983]

it could also use as a air raid alarm device in terms of the sound.

[@gp8666]

Yeah I wonder how they can figure that out...

[@donathlinder404]

Apparently this is supposed to be the next psycho car! Stupid noise so that no one can calm down! Noise causes brain damage and this development just wants to sell pills!!!!! These developers have no respect for nature and living beings!

[@andyeunson270]

Can it “auto rotate “ like a helicopter or will it come down like a beveled brick if it loses power?

[@petedavis7970]

I think the problems are a bit more complicated than that. It has 4 motors. If 1 dies, what's going to happen in that corner? If it completely loses power, it won't be able to auto-rotate like a helicopter because, unlike a helicopter, it's not going to come down with the blades above. It's going to dive either forward or backwards (depending on where the weight is, looks like the back) and be as aerodynamic as it can as it plunges to the ground way faster than any helicopter. Driver is definitely going to get a fatal dose of ground poisoning. Parachute would work if you're high enough.

[@evknucklehead]

@@petedavis7970 Never heard the term "ground poisoning" before. Brings to mind the saying "eat dirt", which can be applied to some of the same situations. Made me chuckle, at any rate.

[@dxbonnar]

@@petedavis7970 Computers driving the motors are helpful here. Quad drones do well on three rotors as the computer can oscillate the 'across' blade to balance. I expect feathering of the cross blade assembly plus & minus could balance during a single motor failure. If another fails, time for the BRS.

[@chrispridemore5562]

What about just as a hover bike?

[@davidwebb2318]

I wonder if the answer would be to have more rotors to allow some redundancy. if the machine has only just enough lift from it's rotors when they are all working then it would seem to be very dangerous.

[@diamondcreepah]

As one random dude in the internet once said: "the more moving parts an object has, the more they can fail"

[@ScienceChap]

Or as Captain Montgomery Scott once said, "the more you overstep the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain".

[@kevinjpluck]

Mechanism is surprisingly simple kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5OYZ2aPmJirotU

[@paulrun111]

@@kevinjpluck even that is too complicated. Could have them only able to produce upwards lift and then change the power between the motors. I think varying the blades is the part that makes it too complicated. This things works in the same way a bird flys. The blades should only be able to move just enough to produce lift on down stroke and move just enough to make no lift on the up stroke. That is how birds do it.

[@justincavinder5504]

I mean we already 4 prop airplanes, multi engine jets, as well as a whole host of other complex things. Like nuclear subs and ships. This is no more complex then those? Not to diminish the innovativeness of this design.

[@barrythompson6936]

Woah! Way before the internet that was said.

[@sandspar]

All it needs is a helmet sticking out of the bottom and it would be an upside down F1

[@embers_falling]

That’s what I was thinking lmao that’s why I decided to watch the vid because I didn’t read the title so I thought it was an f1

[@Topn08_]

Shh...

[@ziasong]

Don't forget a halo.

[@f_USAF-Lt.G]

🤔So, you're saying... "Nice luggage rack, F1"?

[@oldestries]

Dont get too attached to things. Its even more than that.

[@stc2828]

When motors get too powerful, people always find creative ways to build inefficient designs that barely flies XD

[@payton1284]

Thankyou for pointing this out

[@chuckthebull]

they do it with computers..make faster processors then load it down with buggy flashy software,,back to slow again..

[@gugugaga5867]

Ohh boy another ignorant guy here.

[@chuckthebull]

@@gugugaga5867 yeah yeah rotating blades and all, we get it.. it's like little kids that walk flayling their arms and legs in all directions but don't get far,,, lots of movement no progress. but it's fun huh?

[@dr.origami4991]

@@gugugaga5867 Who?You?!

[@nickcautrell2514]

Well that's interesting. I see a of comments about not being as efficient as a helicopter. Which is true but look at it this way. A fixed wing aircraft is more efficient than a helicopter. Can travel faster and farther but requires a runway. Helicopters are less efficient and carry less generally but can land in smaller areas. Down side is contact with the main rotor and trees or power lines end badly. This design is much more compact than a helicopter with simpler mobility. First thing I thought of was aircraft for urban areas. Looks like it's still in the early design stages but I see potential.

[@TLHarris17]

Precisely!!! Couldn’t agree more, thank you for putting forth a different perspective. I do hope your profession allows you to exercise dynamic thinking regularly. Cheers!🍻

[@CapriceV6]

I agree also! great concept and hey it works. This is what inventing is all about!

[@3.2213]

it is a waste off money and time

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

That doesn't make any sense. Efficiency is all in the design parameters, such as the Concorde throwing efficiency out the window for the sake of shorter flights. If you tried to compete with the Comcorde with rocket powered engines... everyone would tell you that's a bad idea. It's more compact, but also less safe. If you lose power in an helicopter you can use the drag created by the air to windmill the rotor and create enough lift to perform an emergency landing instead of dropping like a rock. Can't do that with this one.

[@nickcautrell2514]

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD it's not about a direct comparison of efficiency. Im looking at the gain in mobility at the expense of efficiency.

[@billykyle]

This looks COOL

[@IdahoQuadcopter]

It looks cool, but I'm not clear on why it's better than a conventional prop. It's certainly more complicated, and I would think that means more points of failure. 🤷‍♂

[@cheroso1000]

@@IdahoQuadcopter it's safer and more compact.

[@davidblalock9945]

@@IdahoQuadcopter for its application, its far safer for the rider (not so much for bystanders). Remember that Russian hover-bike with the 4 open props spinning at high rpm inches from the riders legs? If I recall correctly, the pilot suffered severe leg injuries when he crashed. This thing in a similar crash situation will eject the high speed moving parts away from the rider.

[@davidblalock9945]

@@cheroso1000 the real question is efficiency, how much more energy is this system using to achieve the same level of lift?

[@thyhaggis7139]

It looks aweful like a flying shoe

[@walter2990]

Finally, the first step towards an actual Star Wars "Speeder"!

[@olddudeonaducati3153]

Fuck yeah..

[@Jeff55369]

@@olddudeonaducati3153 someone made a flying car years ago... with 8 jet engines. And of course there's been a few attempts with duo and quad copter rotors.

[@The1trueDave]

@@Jeff55369 Those barrel-shaped rotors make it a lot more compact though. Fits the 'form factor' of a speeder or speeder bike a lot better...

[@The1trueDave]

My first thought was 'speeder bike' but yeah :-)

[@hemangsaini610]

When the sound guy is a hardcore gamer but hes allowed to go balls to walls on the edit.

[@BogdanWeiss]

It's just distortion with ZERO dynamic range

[@devdeclan]

Finally what everyone's been waiting for. Hovering Cars!

[@royilevy7322]

@ I think they just skipped a part

[@andy-the-gardener]

not everyone. i've been waiting for banning cars

[@snuggiebear01]

Those have been around for sixty years.

[@alexluckes6563]

they would work great in London nothing goes forwards

[@ianhinds3480]

Yeah, exactly. I was immediately thinking of Blade runner.

[@hightidelowtide6380]

Those wheels would make the best margaritas on the planet!

[@rickl4952]

Amazing... congrats everyone on a great first flight!

[@CMD4WP]

This is more of the future of aviation in individual(s), small and cargo transport, more than I think the drone design. Well done.

[@geriazriel]

Never thought humankind would actually finally 'reinvent the wheel'

[@darkracer1252]

did they? looks pretty round to me

[@darkracer1252]

@Alt Persona and what shape is a wheel?

[@ajax5622]

@@darkracer1252 i think its kinda wheelie shaped. I could be wrong, 1 second now...... just looked at my car most def wheel like. Hope i helped.

[@darkracer1252]

@Alt Persona i think we all agree. that they are wheels and the OP is wrong

[@uniuni8855]

It's a Phoenician sailing technology

[@Riv_Longsnoot]

If I remember correctly, there were some very similar designs to this one from the early days of flying machines, sometime in the late 1800s. I didn’t expect to see this design come back and work!

[@meatfruit1123]

Jeez how old are you?

[@meatfruit1123]

Like 150 or something. Stay strong and keep on going old timer 💪👨🏽‍🦳

[@WMithrandirXbox]

Meat Fruit, maybe he remembers it from an old yt video, smart guy

[@Riv_Longsnoot]

@@WMithrandirXbox I don’t think it was from a yt video, I think it was a Wikipedia article

[@Riv_Longsnoot]

@@meatfruit1123 Also, I’m actually 17, although I may as well be 150 sometimes

[@punkbloater]

The flying vehicles from Bladerunner looks more believable after watching this, nice work!

[@Beardodoomus]

Exactly what came to mind when I saw it.

[@Spazattitude]

Not every single technology is revolutionary but when harnessed and combined by equally talented minds we can create things no one thought possible.

[@CausticLemons7]

Larger with a chute on the back and you've got a flying combine harvester! That was a really cool tech demo, and I'm excited to see where this goes!

[@f_USAF-Lt.G]

(... Back into the field, probably)

[@danieldorn2927]

Congratulations! You reinvented the wheel and made it squared!

[@nuranbintangsabihat4032]

investor : how many moving part you'll need for this project? cyclotech : yes!

[@Zigmmaaaaarrssss]

Yeah I still don't get why invest in this, it's never going to compete against a simple electric motor and a efficient propeller.

[@XxXDOMINIONXxX]

@@Zigmmaaaaarrssss Yes, please tell us the differences in inefficiencies derived from your extensive aerospace engineering degree and years of study and application.

[@AIWorks2040]

They are “youtuber” .. just to get some views

[@Heathh49008]

@@Zigmmaaaaarrssss And is efficiency the only consideration? Hint : no Now consider the differences.

[@Incalvideo]

​@@Zigmmaaaaarrssss imagine this product in 10--20,yrs it will be wow, a prototoype for someone to make an air-bike like in star wars!!! In the near future the hypodroms will be filled watching these things race, you will be able to travel long distances, etci tell you =)

[@buddywhatshisname522]

What’s the efficiency relative to open rotor blades? Interesting tech though…

[@MaloneMantooth]

I was honestly thinking the same thing. With the forward motion of the rotors and blade pitch requirements it seems open to too many moving parts and one failed part could mean failure......but what do I know.

[@GearheadStew]

I was thinking the same as well... If there's no advantage to this design over regular rotor designs, aren't they just reinventing a wheel that doesn't really need reinvented?

[@MaloneMantooth]

@@GearheadStew: It'll probably work in water real well Lol

[@Sam-nj2zw]

Open rotor blades are vulnerable to defense mechanisms like nets thrown by other drones, this one doesn't have blades that easily break off

[@awestwood3955]

@@Sam-nj2zw but it has massive wheel rotors that could easily get wrapped in the same same net or the net to jam the fins in the wheel. If anything it's more vulnerable.

[@merkantelismo]

Great! Those blowers make pretty loud EDM music

[@janholland2224]

In a Voith Schneider the center of rotation can be shifted/changed. By the looks of it this center of rotation is fixed which makes it a Kirsten-Boeing type propulsor. Both quite classic cycloidal propulsor design patterns which haven been around for a century or so.

[@atalazs]

True. But great achievement anyway! I've never seen a big drone using that principle.

[@gurgleblaster2282]

@@atalazs there are a few youtubers who have made drones like this.

[@atalazs]

@@gurgleblaster2282 True. So when boeing showed their deamliner, have you commented "its a plane, I've seen that 100 Years ago!"? To use such an uncommon propuslion system is a big risk and deserves some appreciation for the involved entrepreneurs ans engineers. And for all tec: we're standing on the shoulders of giants.

[@daycred]

@@atalazs Agreed. People just want to disagree out of principle smh

[@antonnym214]

It looks to me like the blade angle is adjustable. Assuming that's done under software control, and not just centrifugal force, then I was originally thinking it could be more of a Werner-Klemperer design. But now I think you're right. Kirsten-Boeing.

[@bitsmart...]

i would like to see those as F1 race - that would be spectacular crashes!

[@vordag]

this dude can fly over it

[@DGENexMACHINA]

Is this how speed racer starts?

[@ChironZore]

Phantum Menace racing pods

[@donchang1432]

This is amazing. I believe this is the puzzle piece that will unlock flying cars in the future.

[@Kiwin412]

How energy efficient is it compared to regular mutlirotors at the moment ? At least space-wise and security-wise, it's a winner

[@PhillipAmthor]

Yes

[@sectokia1909]

Doesn't matter. This company has been around for nearly 18 years now, and despite never producing anything, they continue to have these demos every few years and somehow continues to get fools to throw money at them.

[@Crushonius]

@@sectokia1909 exactly this brought us closer to flying cars about as much as back to the future 2

[@OnizukaGTO]

This technology isn't new, been used on heavy transport ferries and sailing ships as vertical mechanical sails. Very efficient and easy to maintain as they have few moving parts compared to screw propelled. However it seems like using them for flight is a little more tricky.

[@landen99]

Unlike a quadcopter, this one has to constantly change the angle of the blades with every blade rotation. Not aware of any system with just a single rotor that can fly without auto-rotating and even a propellor is considered a rotor too.

[@stephenlittle7534]

Well that was different. I will be looking at this more. Good luck.

[@kapitievs]

Very impressive. Looking forward to seeing these really take-off!

[@bushramukthar1488]

I see what u did there 😂

[@zakriver4819]

I have to wonder if this is a better design than horizontally mounted propellors (as used in drones). Does adding in another rotation axis for each blade make it more prone to mechanical failure? If so, what is the advantage of adding more points of failure?

[@voodooinc7935]

I could literally film my cat taking a dump with this music in the background, and it would seem epic

[@MikkoRantalainen]

More information would have been nice. Is the "wheel" changing angle of attack of the "wing" attached to the wheel over a single revolution of the wheel? If so, I would assume moving the wings (or should I say vanes) that much is sure to be the weak point structurally. Is there any reason to believe this is better than a ducted fan?

[@brianwade8649]

I guessed that as well. Like a helicopter blade. It looks cool but I doubt it is more efficient. Could be wrong though.

[@Binderbird4X4Firebird]

I would call it progress. Look back at the first flying machines and see what we have now. Give this a chance. It may bring amazing discoveries.

[@iwalker1985]

I believe it is using the magnus effect

[@МаксОттоФонШтирлиц-о8я]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oomtYoKKpZhqjsk

[@getsideways7257]

@@МаксОттоФонШтирлиц-о8я kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZPRYXWkqZicetU

[@timeis247]

That's an interesting concept. Now make the inner and outer rims of the drums lined in rubber and you have an electric flying car as well.

[@harliethomas1378]

As far as sound, what is really amazing is how quiet this machine is compared to anything else out there!

[@parrishwest]

Yes but can it be used to for the motorized destruction of other countries? Because that's what man does with his best technology.

[@fusionmechanic1]

Finally something revolutionary for flying it's always been more blades for helicopters style or more wing. This is something new

[@dumydummies8514]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclogyro

[@rachmawansaputra2491]

First they already testing cyclogyro from 1940+ Second that not efficient as blades and to lift a copter you need cyclogyro the size copter and at least need 2 of them

[@CH-pv2rz]

Without blades there is no autorotation to the ground to survive a power/engine failure. With this setup you just crash and die…

[@DmitrySabFo]

Bruh there are blades inside rotors and this tech were made more than 100 years ago by one russian engineer. Now in Russia they're also developing "Cyclocopter".

[@noname-xo5mp]

I want anti gravity alien tech.. Tired of all this spinny stuff

[@OnizukaGTO]

They use these vertical tube "engines" on sailing ships and cargo ferries for years, only surprised it took this long to put them horizontal to make things fly. Such a simple mechanism but seems to be very delicate when it comes to flying. Nice one!

[@FrozenHaxor]

Probably because you cannot possibly perform an autorotation with this system, resulting in a vehicle loss if a failure of any of the four rotors should occur. It's unsuitable for human transportation.

[@patrickm.4469]

I'm really excited for where drone tech is going to be in 10 or 20 years!

[@brucerideout9979]

Am Canadian 63 not too excited about that siggh Nonetheless this is exponentially more fascinating, daily.

[@MrArkBrian]

Watch the movie Terminator. Those Ariel HK’s are pretty much the direction they’re going.

[@mattiacenacchi726]

war.

[@nl4402]

4 motors, 4 propellers on 4 different corners, it hovers. That is so revolutionary. How did you come up with such a unique idea.

[@RangerStrike]

to the development team: keep up the good work! You are onto a winner here.....

[@stejer211]

"We already have flying cars, they're called helicopters!" - Neil deGrasse Tyson, 2018

[@theshazman]

And they can autorotate on engine failure.

[@Quarkburger]

You can't drive a helicopter down the road

[@3.2213]

@@QuarkburgerInfact you can it's called ''Pall-V one''

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

@@Quarkburger Flying cars are usually shown in sci fi to not need any roads.

[@ParadigmUnkn0wn]

@Pronto the problem is that flying is inherently dangerous. The "average human being" without training is simply not qualified to fly a VTOL aircraft. Add in the fact that things that fly have insane inspection and maintenance requirements compared to cars. Engine in your car quits? You call a tow truck. Engine in your "flying car" quits? 😵☠️🪦... unless it's a helicopter flown by a trained pilot that can perform an autorotation. As for autopilots and fancy control systems, the aerospace regulatory world moves at a snail's pace. The latest commercial jets can technically perform fully autonomous landings at well-equipped airports now, but they still have to have two pilots on the flight deck ready to take over in the event that system fails. And as we seen with the Boeing MAX incidents related to the MCAS system, failures do happen. Most of these "eVTOL" things are just over-grown multicopters using the same exact control systems and software you'd find in a hobbyist drone. Annual/100 hour (whichever comes first) inspections on a tiny little Robinson R44 helicopter start at $1,700. The 2,000 hour mandatory overhaul runs around $190,000. Parts are insanely expensive because they have to be certified. Everything in the aviation world has to be certified, except experimental aircraft and ultralights.

[@realvanman1]

Instead of playing the noise, how about telling us some interesting facts about the craft? How fast do those things turn? How much power do they require? How much does the thing weigh? I assume power is coming from the overhead cable for now. Will it be able to lift off with a battery? How long will it be able to fly? What happens if a motor fails? Etc, etc, etc.

[@manp1039]

I found this on it: "Cyclotech | Cyclogyro Principle" kzbin.info/www/bejne/najWnn6uedyasJo

[@TanukiDigital]

Had to mute the video because of the awful awful "drama music".

[@user-fly168]

@@TanukiDigital удали Ютюб у себя

[@A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid]

The noise sucks.

[@FishBaitBlue]

Entitled much?

[@megazdechl]

Why is there a cut just before the takeoff?

[@triynizzles]

voith schneider propellers have been around for a while interesting to see in action.

[@shannono.5835]

This tech reminds me of the Fanwing R&D

[@humanistwriting5477]

@Khaliil bin Ammar the propeller design these engineers are using was invented in 1908. They are well established, and also called rotocycloid propellers.

[@addie750]

Instead of music, how about a brief explanation of the dynamics of the technology we’re looking at, as well as just simply hearing it spool up.

[@manp1039]

I found this on it: "Cyclotech | Cyclogyro Principle" kzbin.info/www/bejne/najWnn6uedyasJo

[@addie750]

@@manp1039 Nice! Never saw your reply until now, but I appreciate you putting in the link. Very intriguing design. 👍🏻😁

[@Freakoutski]

Pretty cool! It's like Magnus effect craft had a baby with a paddle boat. If those blades could be designed to fold in on themselves, then you got yourself some wheels!

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

Going on the ground is for old ppl. :)

[@soulscornsentinel-7124]

Or instead of the blades folding, you have an outer rim tyre that’s folds back to the body revealing the bladed wheel

[@hemiacplurge3572]

I saw the thumbnail and thought "Cool! A magnus effect doo-dad". Its a bit weirder, which is always fun.

[@danhnguyenmd9635]

Just add rubber along the rim and you got wheels that can go from road to air. First of its kind.

[@mattmustarde5582]

This is technically NOT the magnus effect, but rather a "cyclorotor" - similar in function to a Voith Schneider/Kirsten-Boeing Propeller, but on it's side. If this was lifted by the Magnus effect, you wouldn't need the smaller vanes inside the cylinder, but instead would want a smooth cylinder for the air to "stick" to as it spins. I'd love to know how this cyclorotor setup stacks up against traditional rotors, as it seems to add more noise and mechanical complexity, while reducing power efficiency. Maybe it's purely for a smaller footprint and resistance to impacts?

[@ktreier]

Amazing tech! I wish I was 35 years younger. I’d love to work in the aviation industry now.

[@Booper1978]

Thanks. I've been waiting to see a thought come to life. After I saw the Dyson products I was sure someone would think of this, and also the semi bladeless wind turbines!

[@mdisposed]

A recording only with the sound of the rotors would be cool. Are they that silent?

[@SMHman666]

Tom Yeah, I thought it was fairly quiet, especially compared to a helicopter. The music and levels could have made it seem that way though.

[@AwesomeBlackDude]

Joe Biden administration already ordered 1000 of them. Let Go Brandon! 😬

[@cameltoast]

@@AwesomeBlackDude man y'all have the worst fuckin jokes

[@54l68l65l20l47l61l6D]

Probably not lol

[@MechInvent]

@@cameltoast who is "y'all". Are you racist?

[@nevermindmyname9153]

First Responder uses for that as Logistical Support would be almost everything. From Surveillance to dropping first aid. Larger the scale the greater the possibilities.

[@marshalljulie3676]

Trust me they will weaponize it

[@neomrelyt]

Can’t they already do that with regular drones

[@makc3383]

Vice versa. Everything for civilian use was developed for military purposes.

[@nevermindmyname9153]

@@neomrelyt Yes, but this could, for instance, lift an injured person in a Closer area fast than abseiling for instance. If it can hover Horizontally, then it could hover Vertically.

[@nevermindmyname9153]

@@marshalljulie3676 I did say "First responders" which would include Armed Response. The Military funding of something like this is how civilian life gain the benefits.

[@joaquinvaladez2070]

No propellers, no jets, no rockets. .....amazing work guys and gals. Well done.

[@docmc6557]

Glad this was recommended to me. Wow. This makes flying cars more believable and achievable. Amazing!

[@FreeEricBrandt]

We've had flying cars for half a century now.... they're called helicopters

[@orion7741]

There has been commercially produced flying cars since the 1950's though... maybe you just have not been paying attention?

[@FreeEricBrandt]

@@orion7741 i thought i just said that...

[@BohemianCloud35]

People can't drive normal cars without crashing, so don't go holding your breath over FLYING cars.

[@corporate_marshmallow]

@@FreeEricBrandt yeah...they'd be helicopters though dumbass, clues in the title. So not a flying car.

[@StoicOutlaw17]

Now if that thing could carry a normal sized adult it would be beyond mind blowing.

[@διαβόητο23φάντασμα]

Hold your ponies its a prototype.

[@scottheaton8469]

And hundreds of pounds of battery......

[@RandyTWester]

And eardrum-blowing.

[@etherealicer]

True... but I have to say, that was a very smooth take off.

[@1953fords]

@@scottheaton8469 no that’s why it has a power cord silly. Like early remote controlled cars. Can only drive as far as the cord….

[@Chamorristaxd]

any numbers on efficiency?

[@MCKW-MTB]

Does it double as a super fast rc car if you flip it over?

[@imunfathomable]

How much weight can it support at what speeds and for how long? Also what happens if a prop fails? Also what safety measures can be implemented so someone doesnt lose an appendage to a prop? I see a lot of waste of money on a prototype.

[@octopusmagnificens]

Gravity takes control if a prop fails.

[@Luckyfeller]

Do the blades create the same/more/less downforce in that "barrel" configuration than if they were arranged in a regular rotor assembly?

[@ken7481]

wondering the same, but I doubt it

[@robot_spider]

Unless each blade is pivoting to reduce drag on the 'return' stroke (backside of the rotation) the net lift would be zero. So at best, it can only produce lift from half the blades at a time, on the downstroke. A regular multi-rotor blade produces lift through its entire revolution.

[@Luckyfeller]

@@robot_spider I had thought that there must be some sort of pivoting built into the cycle to stop the blades cancelling each other out. Would love to know weather the system they are using are getting more or less lifting force than a regular blade assembly.

[@robot_spider]

@@Luckyfeller If you look at industrial/commercial HVAC, squirrel-cage fans are used all the time in high-performance/high-volume applications. At first I was thinking each blade would need computer controlled pitch adjustment, but you could do it all with a single central planetary gear and asymmetrically tuned child gears. Still not sure I want to ride on anything that has no glide or auto-rotation capability.

[@homewardboundphotos]

looks like a whole lotta energy with a pretty negligible thrust.

[@MegaMulec]

main question here is...WHY??

[@nissantuner6081]

Safer than traditional blades for applications around common folks (such as Amazon drone idea)? I am asking the same question though but maybe they have another video?

[@MrGaiden100]

What if you put fenders over the blades? would that make it too turbulent or maybe it would force the air downward to create more lift?

[@edwinkania5286]

Cool, but seems kinda loud BUT the damn music drowns out the real sounds of awesome.

[@jarniwoop]

I noticed the people in the control booth were wearing ear protection.

[@whatilearnttoday5295]

There's a reason for that. It's so loud with all that wasted energy that no one would go anywhere near the thing.

[@stephenstreet1045]

Yeah planes and helicopters are loud too. That's in the nature of anything moving enough air for powered flight.

[@whatilearnttoday5295]

@@stephenstreet1045 When you have such a highly inefficient design more energy is converted into sound energy.

[@allenmajorovic4451]

Be nice to know how noisy the vehicle is. Since those "CycloRotors" don't have tip vortices I'm inclined to think they're pretty quiet but there's only the sound track audio and no audio from the prototype.

[@davidkillens8143]

My concern too. I would suspect that a fast rotor doing so much work would create a lot of noise. I would like to see the numbers, the dB readings.

[@orbitaljellyfish808]

If it was quiet I think they’d be crowing about it

[@zaharacreative]

Should be helluva loud

[@danielbonzaibuckerooo]

when your invention is so loud you gotta find music thats even louder...

[@jerryg9207]

Every aircraft is loud.

[@danielbonzaibuckerooo]

@@jerryg9207 yes but this one is 4 times louder and the sound is 360 around the pilot

[@Leo-ws3bp]

@@danielbonzaibuckerooo you know how loud a car is to people next to it? Now think of how it sounds inside. Smae with a plane, same with a helicopter,same with a cyclocopter

[@lancebbowman]

I can see the string holding it up!;) Seriously, nice job!

[@alexoja2918]

How the hell do you direct the airflow from axial fans without some cover around them? Would think the blades needed to move in a way that introduces a ton of vibration.

[@Flopsaurus]

You can see at 0:10 that the blades can actuate around their individual axes. As a result, you can get a varying angle of attack with the azimuth of the blade. No reason this should introduce vibration.

[@sideswiped6874]

the blades have an airfoil like a Helicopter blade or wing on a plane. the blades can change pitch as they spin. when the blades have more positive pitch the thing goes up.

[@samlucky3334]

What are the rpms on those rotors though? Can it sustain constant flight? What’s the payload it can lift?

[@thelukesternater]

This would be a proof of concept type thing

[@MXX265]

Russia will have the same concept in production in 2025 that can transport 6 people.

[@moneymagnetismnetwork]

Now this is a concept that would finally make all those Bladerunner style floating cars and Star Wars floating land rovers come true. I know Star Wars used anti gravity but this is much better than prop drones as cars imho

[@haldyordan2316]

We're a type class .73 civilization after all, give time we'll get there.

[@moneymagnetismnetwork]

@MrClassiccarenthusia Makes sense. I just meant the design is making more sense in this direction than open prop drones claiming to be flying "cars" of the future.

[@moneymagnetismnetwork]

@@haldyordan2316 I feel if past inventions were not suppressed we would have been so much further by now.

[@haldyordan2316]

@MrClassiccarenthusia inventors of the past did invent seemingly stupid things, and yet from these inspire evolvement of better ideas....

[@haldyordan2316]

@@moneymagnetismnetwork true, I agreed, like the electric car was invented 100+years ago yet they focus more on oil by products fuel, so many inventions turn down vs gains of big corporations collaborating with governments

[@chrisivanchev]

What if these were ducted? The only problem I see with most of these eVTOL vehicles is the exposed propellers that could cut you pretty badly if you bail out. Would these be efficient enough?

[@themadengineer1050]

This is the start of flying cars!!! Keep it up!!! Wheels and lift all in one! There should be no dislikes on this attempt!!!

[@Hans-Yolo]

Oh yeah, the start of flying cars, like people said in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s... You want a flying car? Buy a Helicopter. If on this flying cars that are showing up an engine fails you are done. A helicopter has autorotation, a plane can glide, this things will spin out of controll and fall like a rock. I rember in the late 80s you could buy toy kites which used the same prinzipal, they also crashed pretty fast if the wind wasnt right ;)

[@taintedsasquatch398]

People have a hard time with regular cars not flying into houses you want them actually crashes through your roof?

[@themadengineer1050]

Yes! 😂👍

[@chuckintexas]

COULD BE as MUCH of the ambient parasitic shock we "hear" as sound COULD be mitigated by Body style, and the "Flying Car" would NOT need the efficiencies demanded by outright FLIGHT - commercial or private !

[@zaharacreative]

@@Hans-Yolo Parachutes.

[@Kerbango-ez69]

Would this work in a wheel well in replacement of tires? It looks like that's what they're going for, slap a body on top and you have a flying car. Or are they going for a drone type creation?

[@watong9232]

I agree that the rotors on this prototype design do appear reminiscent of wheels on a car, and perhaps they might even still function if placed in a properly vented shroud (that could possibly resemble a wheel well from a side perspective). Of course, any vehicle that might utilize high-speed rotors such as these for lift would need be made of strong, light materials, much lighter than any car driven today. I doubt that - considering the ease with which the two techs moved it in the video - that the prototype weighed more than 100kgs complete (around 75kg by my guess). You couldn't retrofit a conventional automobile with drive motors and rotors, if that's what you were asking.. Even the lightest mass-produced vehicles on the road today would still be far too heavy even if you removed the engine. However, I do think it plausible to incorporate an airless tire such as Michelin is developing to make something capable of being both driven and flown. But the beauty of a flying car is that you don't _need_ to drive it...😊 so, any wheels it might have, would probably just serve to maneuver the craft short distances between storage and flight pad.

[@kellyodom9596]

Beautiful, push the envelope that how we advance, two thumbs up.

[@whatilearnttoday5295]

No envelopes were harmed in this folly.

[@Kwago1]

What is it for? What's it's mass capacity, size wise, or carry? Is it capable of reverse cycle on those fans & what effect does that do?

[@codetech5598]

Note to viewers: *No narration; recommend hitting mute.*

[@Aqzaqa]

or turn it up cause it sounds awesome

[@robodabbler]

@@Aqzaqa I would have preferred to have heard the motor/prop sound.

[@ccbcco]

Amateur hour production for a promising product. Why listen to what the rotors actually actually sounds like when you can listen to that RIDICULOUS MILITARY ACTION MOVIE MUSIC instead??

[@innercityprepper]

you can hear the motor/prop sound in the background. Sounds like a tree shredder, and all of the engineers are wearing hearing protection.

[@tomellis4750]

I did hit mute after a few seconds of the awful music. Turned it off to see if any facts were being spoke, but no, sound of the rotors at one point. Maybe you could say at the beginning that there will be no information, that way we will know to leave mute on.

[@Fpvfreaky]

eVTOL Now you have to make a DeLorean Shell for this. Doc would be proud of you guys👌🏼😉

[@diegokanocanizares3952]

That really was a glimpse in to the future!!! Wheels that fly !!

[@NullScar]

"The wheels in the sky keeps on turning."

[@elfpimp1]

How much does it weigh, how loud? Payload capacity?? Horizontal speed and acceleration?

[@stephen_101]

So that's how Santa's sleigh works 😎

[@chuckintexas]

SECRETS _REVEALED_ !!

[@huethedev6537]

Would be nice if this can go from driving like a car to flying. Those things already looks like wheels. Half wheel half propeller.

[@f_USAF-Lt.G]

A propeller pushes the air like a fan blade... These are airfoil that generate lift from creating low-pressure system above itself

[@FXJerzy]

LOUD AF!

[@fionadavies18]

@@f_USAF-Lt.G they both operate under the exact same principles

[@timwegman5776]

@UCgST5xd8hxpz1Ud-rBPa6jQ wow got your panties in a bind? I don't see any problem with his question and big deal you read the little description that really doesn't give much information and your going to act like you know so much about it. Why couldn't it drive like a car first? If the props need speed for liftoff then use a hydraulic or electric lift first to get it off the ground then it can spin up to speed, it doesn't matter the type of props they are and let's not forget he was just making a comment not trying to re invent the machine.

[@JJM2222]

what does it cost to hit a pothole?

[@benbunch4159]

All I see is like “wow they got a lot of 80/20 to build those shields I wonder what the lead time on that shipment was”

[@MrHeuristics]

I kept thinking those shields looked slick and aspirational but would not stop the entire crew from dying a horrible death if there was any number of catastrophic malfunctions.

[@willdrunkenstein5367]

Looks like this aircraft doesn’t have a secondary method of generating lift. How would you recover in case one of the rotors fails?

[@Jpilgrim30]

That’s an awesome invention. Question is is there any way this is more efficient than a typical propeller or can it be made to be? Regardless, I guess no progress is ever made unless someone is willing to think outside of the box. Seems like a lot of moving parts in a type of craft that would usually be built with a lot of redundancy and failsafes.

[@timmy7201]

It's more compact, but will always be less efficient than a normal helicopter propellor. The simplest explanation would be: in a normal propellor all blades can push air downwards 100% of the time, while this propellor design has about 50% of it's upper blades covered by the bottom blades. Only the remaining 50% bottom blades can produce lift.

[@ArnoldsDesign]

@@timmy7201 I was thinking that too, though I'm keeping in mind the drag from tip vortices and drag from props.

[@ButchNackley]

@@timmy7201 I believe the airfoils invert at the bottom half of the rotation. Seen at around 0:08

[@mykeh3155]

Even with all the functions this has, it’s super inefficient, has transition time and downtime, and wouldn’t have the same auto rotation safety that helicopters typically have. This is good for it’s compactness and ground safety (put a mesh over the “wheels” and no one can lose a finger, meanwhile it is very easy to lose a head from a helicopter, or even fall over). Helicopters and normal multi prop vehicles will always be better for everything besides size.

[@whoknows8225]

@@ButchNackley yes, the blades change pitch as the wheel rotates to push the air in the direction it wants to go

[@cars4477]

We are one step closer to the flying cars in The 5th Element. I’m stoked!

[@shay-ryanjones8965]

Word🤙

[@kurtdewittphoto]

BAADAABOOM.

[@austinpetemo]

We'll never have flying cars. People are too stupid driving regular cars as it is.

[@holesmak]

@@austinpetemo that's why we have Tesla and subsystem's like pid modules on drones

[@NorthernBirdBoy]

Looks an interesting concept, hoping the moving parts for the blades can cope with the constant wear and tear and forces on them, I'd also be interested in fail safes should one motor fail.. interesting concept though.

[@maxmustermann167]

If the motors are powerfoul enough one failure should not be a problem. Use the 2 motors on opposite edges that still work for power and movement and use the 3rd one thats working to stabalize.

[@NorthernBirdBoy]

@@maxmustermann167 the electronics and opposing motor would have to kick in and react to a failing motor very quickly to compensate for the forces acting on the vehicle to stop it flipping.. this can be done but will not be an easy task. Best of luck to them.

[@TheAero1221]

If I were in a flying car that utilized these, I'd definitely want there to be 6. Just in case...

[@RandomThingyEnjoyer]

@@maxmustermann167 like a table?

[@TheRedRaven_]

A helicopters blades also pitch and rotate vertically...however this has a lot more blades so failure rate would go up. I can't see it being an issue.

[@fredrikastrom4683]

how does thge magnus effect know which way to act?

[@Adamcfyfe]

Sick! looking forward to see some real world flights with this thing.

[@dominicfalcione783]

Video ruined by the music, c'mon...

[@puzzLEGO]

is this using the coanda effect? reminds me of some old boat designs

[@donaldbarton6701]

Dang you're right

[@Tezorus]

@@donaldbarton6701 Damn you're right to telling him he's right.

[@donaldbarton6701]

@@Tezorus and you're right for telling me I'm right for telling him he's right

[@Tezorus]

@@donaldbarton6701 I can't believe how right you are for telling me I'm right for telling you you're right for telling him he's right.

[@donaldbarton6701]

@@Tezorus 🤣👍

[@NoNameIdentity00]

If the lift of the cyclones are whats used then from there you can probably used them as separate control servo wheels and instant you have a car design from those speed racer except the wheels are meant to be open rather than have a grip thread