D4 Takes A Big Step Towards... D3? Overview of the Season of "Loot Reborn"

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Overall good stuff, I'm pleased enough playing the game for now and it's just plain... more. Which as I said is good in the short term but doesn't make for long term gameplay and if all we're doing is playing a week or two thats no big deal.

[@thibaud1330]

Imagine fucking up a new installment in a series so bad that going back towards the previous one seems like a step forward.

[@Burninbodies]

At least steal from actual good games like everyone else.

[@Lethorick]

This is exactly what I was thinking lmao

[@xcy7240]

The previous one which also had very mixed reception and wasn’t all that great compared to ITS predecessor d2 lmao, why do people support blizzard?

[@jamesweber8566]

LOL

[@Ca11mero]

Yeah, I don't get why they didn't have greater rifts to begin with. The concept of it is good and it was quite fun in D3 until it turned into fishing for pylons and stuff around 3rd season (?).

[@joshuahensley9395]

"it's become more of a game" Idk if you realize what a damning stament that is.

[@alex4ucj]

@joshuahensley9395 Pretty sure PoE become 'more of a game' after dozens of leagues. 🤦‍♂

[@Seproc]

@@alex4ucjpoe was already a game even in beta. The reason why ggg got the support of many and they got all the fundings to develop more.

[@alex4ucj]

@@Seproc Nah it wasn't.

[@Intestine_Ballin-ism]

​@@alex4ucj which was your first league if I may ask?

[@CCSplinters]

​@@alex4ucjnot the best but it feels more engaging back in 2013 than today's D4 experience. You can't excuse a very mid game after having more than a decade of arpg content and experience with their 4th installment. Compare it to the 10 years of players engaged in poe w/o prior experience of making huge games. There's a reason PoE1 still has a huge and active community.

[@dagowow]

I remember when the devs said they'd keep the numbers smaller. We hit billions pre season. kek

[@insertaunnombreaqui]

Remember they also said there wouldnt be legendaries dropping from the sky when you kill stuff 🤣

[@mcgruber]

Turn the numbers off. Ez fix.

[@dagowow]

@@mcgruber missing the point

[@mcgruber]

@@dagowow No, because even PoE hits these huge numbers but you don't realise it because you can't see them. If it bothers you, turn them off. Ez fix.

[@dagowow]

@@mcgruber doubling down on missing the point

[@TheALEXiSounds]

That skill tree is still the most laughable thing I've ever seen from any rpg.

[@fistan5447]

i played beta D4 and when i saw that tree, i knew this game would have no replayability. Anything linear should not be called a tree. Entire reason its called a tree was its branches. And there are no meaningful choises in D4 tree.

[@alxk3995]

Skillstick

[@99range92def]

Skill twig.

[@alex4ucj]

@TheALEXiSounds Skills are for level 1-50, for casuals to be able to play the game, they said they will add complexity to the Paragon board as after finishing the campaign one would assume that complex commitment starts from there. At least in D4 I use all my 6 skills bars, in PoE just smash 1-2 skills tops like a braindead.

[@bozy0223]

@@alex4ucj toxic rain in poe has 100x better gameplay then d4

[@coltranenaima6869]

You hit the nail on the head with this vid, the devs clearly chose the easy route which is leaning into D3 game play and said fuck the journey just get to the destination. Although I appreciate the quality of life and the rework of systems, the overall direction still makes me feel like I'm playing cookie clicker and getting incrementally better, getting to 100 and end game poses no real challenge along the way and feels like i'm completing a chore rather than embarking on a journey.

[@Square_One]

I hit level 100, leveled all my glyphs, partially masterworked all of my gear, and I'm essentially done with the season at this point, at least as far as I care to push it, and I'm still using the min roll dungeon version of one of my main aspects because I still haven't found a better one. I know getting screwed by rng is nothing new in arpgs but this has been brutal since a top roll on that aspect would double my resource sustain and bring my build online. Overall a pretty frustrating experience with the season despite most of the changes going in the right direction for the game.

[@Darqion]

As much as a step back D3 was to D2 (for me at least), i did end up having fun with it.... after the expansion at least. It was never really "diablo" for me, but it was fun blasting stuff for a good while.. got my money's worth. Honestly, if D4 ends up feeling more like D3, i could at least see myself getting my moneys worth out of that one.. Still have some hours to go for that, since i basically got bored the moment the campaign was done... And honestly most skills kinda feel boring to me

[@kbom6806]

quarterly update - soon to be annual.... d4bad?

[@amitdsouza3623]

You nailed it. Exactly my thoughts

[@TheMrMurlok]

Thanks for the summary. Still seems like soulless slop to me.

[@emarbeats6896]

Pretty much

[@alex4ucj]

@TheMrMurlok Maybe play and see it for yourself? Being influenced by a content creator is silly to be honest.

[@emarbeats6896]

@@alex4ucj we're not all pay pigs

[@alex4ucj]

@@emarbeats6896 Sheeps, more rather.

[@Eametsa]

Iv been playing this again after launch and leveling barb in helltide is pretty fun, you just smash and it feels good. so far im level 40, well see how long im playing.

[@insertaunnombreaqui]

raxx asked in one those devs interview if they will expand the skill tree, the devs answer was "no" so in season 10 you will be doing the same character builds you''ve done since season 1 thats a deal breaker for me...but it makes sense, devs can barely keep up and balance the game with the current available skills

[@Archangel591]

One good thing, which they have done, is adding different aspects and uniques to change how skills work. Take POE's transfigured gems. You can change a feel of a build completely if you just change a few key concepts about how the skill functions. So I think that even if D4 doesn't get new skills in the skill tree, they can still add more variety down the line. Also I would assume new classes are coming, so that's something to look forward to.

[@Deminese2]

@@Archangel591 I'd agree thats good but then you're stuck hoping a specific unique or aspect drops if its not in a dungeon while leveling and that feels like ass in any arpg. Some skills are basically unplayable garbage without like 3 aspects propping them up.

[@aligr3224]

@@Archangel591 this actually means nothing at all tho, there is no diversity, you are still doing the same builds 10 seasons into the game as you did on launch week..

[@therealharshlycritical]

We literally moving back to reaper. And the drones are elated

[@ferinzz]

Literally though. You can't even accidentally get the "wrong" attribute on the item. To the point they broke a node on the paragon

[@IRumburakI]

Everything but graphics is D3 since the beginning anyway.

[@steel5897]

No, it was worse than D3 in very fundamental ways (the finished post-RoS version, not the launch disaster). The itemization and progression was terrible, looking at endless useless affixes on yellow items being the endgame gameplay loop was several times worse than D3's gameplay loop, which is mindless, but almost zen-like in its effortless "number go up" flow. D4 lacked that flow, and now having played season 4, I think D4 is getting that back.

[@jtheist32]

Just based on the title, that was my first impression as well. "Here is all your free gear! Now enjoy grinding out 1% upgrades for a day until you're bored." D4 is almost fun. Almost. But it's so soulless. So paint by numbers. So generic. So mobile/gacha feeling.

[@Boode229]

Took me 150 hours to get level 100 before season 1. Crazy that people are doing it in 12 hours now.

[@chrislastname1994]

I feel like the best part of d3 was greater rifts and not having to worry about picking up loot till the end.

[@DiablozStyx]

I feel the amount of helltide loot is too much. Once you go into NMD and Pits you get like 4-5 legys and maaaybe a unique over the course of the run. I find that much better than before. If they add more endgame and more to do i feel this is gonna be good.

[@itsjustajokejeez]

The master working is exactly like artifact system in genshin impact.

[@RenardRenards]

Who told you to stop farming emblem to type this comment? Back to jail

[@itsjustajokejeez]

@@RenardRenards Emblem?

[@sethwood1676]

I would compare it more to The divison 2 tbh and their recalibration station. Tempering is too rng for my taste though.

[@vi8799]

It's absurd that the item rarity system itself doesn't work. The only time I equipped white-blue-yellow items was simply to fill a slot at the very beginning of the game, then I only picked up only items and legendaries. In POE uniques are needed more often because of the unique properties. In all other cases, the player will prefer rare items.

[@Dontkare0283]

"I know what I'm doing isn't anything meaningful." *Puts another map in the device and run my 60th crimson temple in a row* "Now this is Podracing."

[@rubisco5997]

mad

[@Dontkare0283]

@@rubisco5997 Not at all, just not mindlessly dickriding.

[@lolbajset]

@@rubisco5997 coping

[@sheriffrick6103]

a wild blizzard fanboy has appeared

[@suicidesquadie7990]

@@sheriffrick6103 but he just ran his 60th temple.... a wild example of humanity has appeared. "I HATE BLIZZARD" ...meanwhile, watching D4 videos and posting in comments.

[@Xeratas]

24h in the season only 1 person from the 8 people that played it is left in my twitch list still playing it. Must be a good update

[@evanwater3633]

noticed the same. I was shocked. that made me actually reinstall it. having fun myself but I know it won't be long term

[@bobbobb5759]

Imagine caring so much about who plays what. lol fk me the net is full of weirdos

[@Deminese2]

@@bobbobb5759 Not really caring its just a sign of how grabbing the content is for peoples jobs it is to play games. Personally I didn't even make it past like level 30 or 40 something on a necro. I was just bored.

[@fistan5447]

12:20 You summed up the whole thing greatly. Diablo after 2nd game always had weak itemization. Still they dont get it. I felt the problem when i first played D3 during first week. Gone were the days where you'd drop a unique at lvl 20 and it'd carry you to the hell.

[@Kortiah]

You all say that but from what I saw when trying out D2:R, everyone wants the same runewords and the same +X to skill

[@fistan5447]

@@Kortiah played 1.09 for years, before synergies. Which was when the game was at its best. Also, if you are going to play D2R, play SSF. Trading introduces economy to the game, and that just changes your perspective on the game, instead of making do with what you have, you set your eye on the very best thing, because suddenly kitting your character with best gear becomes possible. Before that though you get what you get. Btw even as is right now, itemization is far better than D3 + D4 combined. I am far more excited about good loot in D2 than anything else that came after.

[@xXGe0rgEXx]

@@fistan5447 ehh I tried D2R with PoE as my main but it's just boring combat and clunky. Absolutely amazing for it's time but we have bigger and better things that took the good ideas and ran with them. Right now D4 is def suffering from lower tier items being irrelevant. By and large, WT3 feels like a needless stopgap. IDK, they could make WT4 start at 100 that might be an okay move

[@fistan5447]

@@xXGe0rgEXx only problem D2R has that its finished. Noone is adding more content as they think purists will reject it as game was made for them. Every other RPG today just adds new content every big patch, if that were the case i'd not even play PoE, as crafting is extremely tedious in that game. You are making my point btw, as i said, items in D2R are relevant all the way through, many times ive had uniques that drop in normal that last me beyond nightmare. That is good itemization, makes gameplay relevant throughout leveling. Unlike most other games where game begins when campaign etc ends. D3 had same problem, especially at launch. I literally bought all my gear from AH, and never touch anything that dropped. Good system requires, 1: sufficient variety in itemization and 2: gearing up being relatively linear progress with rare instances of golden egg loot drops. D2 NAILED that. And i dont care if people talk about runewords etc, my generation played LAN. Nobody i knew even had enigma. Thats how game was played, battlenet players were a minority. Since WoW Blizzard's itemization is every 10 levels your entire inventory becomes irrelevant, no matter how good your gear was. They later on implemented the same thing in Diablo 3, and from what i hear in D4 too. If there is no permenance to gear, amount of time you spent acquiring them becomes meaningless. Thats the problem you are describing to me. You dont fix it by adding more powerful gear, you fix it by reducing the gap, and with occasional powerful combos punching above their weight so your playtime ALWAYS generate value.

[@esaesaeesaesa]

The path to end game is such a mess in this game. Reminds me of WoW, but at least that game has the excuse of having ~20 years of content so perhaps in that game it's for the best if players jump straight to the end.

[@Alexational]

nessiePls

[@jeremiahluck327]

nessiePls

[@tophb9855]

Did they beef up the movement speed too?

[@killer109536]

People don't realize this is literally the exact same problem they had when d3 launched. Loot was terrible, they had to rework it, it was still bad, so they reworked it again on the reaper of souls beta/alpha, that was bad so it got reworked AGAIN before it went to reaper of souls launch. Really all these games need to do, is have a good gameplay loop, have good/interesting loot, and something to stride towards , power wise.

[@mcgruber]

It seems to be something the new developers don't understand.

[@riktorGaming]

The sad thing is that I played at least 2 builds from every char in the previous seasons, and came to the conclusion that they don't feel good, only Necro builds seem like a decently designed class IMO, and Maybe Storm Druid. So unless they take a step back and do some reworks unlike in D3 this game is gonna be lively for maybe 2 more seasons, then 3 or 4 seasons after the first expansions and then die out like D3.

[@JPgreekgaming]

"pretty fun for the time it lasts" is ok and i wish more people and devs realise that not every game needs to be this 24/7 time and money sink. Id rather play for a week or two and then walk away satisfied and having had a good time and wait for the next season than being forced to tread through a sh1tty sludge of mediocrity

[@andrewzmorris]

Diablo 4 is maybe the best definition of "shitty sludge of mediocrity" in gaming

[@JPgreekgaming]

@@andrewzmorris 😂

[@IplayTeemoasaWard]

But Blizzard wants it to be. Live-service hasnt become a thing because it looks pretty, its because its the newest method to slowly drain bank accounts.

[@bozy0223]

you should try poe then. must fun 2 weeks ever then you just feel good then quit :D

[@lordeggo]

I'd say the only thing D4 does better than PoE and has since the start despite all the bad. The individual mob types matter. Esp when you get higher levels. I really hope PoE2 goes back this direction.

[@redrum3r]

static world map = no replay value. Even the semi-random take the same path every time of poe and D3 is years better. Same as Last Epoch: play the campaign, kill off a couple hardcores, never go back.

[@NovemberX]

Exact my problem with LE. They handmade every zone but making them all a narrow corridor wtf.

[@drazendadic6666]

Yay

[@Maceventur]

Summed up very good keep it up.

[@jpgreel]

Perfect summary video. It has been kind of sad how much praise this season is getting. Like yes, it is better. Better than dogshit is still pretty bad. The game has almost completely transformed into Diablo 3, but at a 4x faster rate. One of the things the devs touted before Diablo 4 came out was how they did away with sets and they have these aspects and you can move them around and there will be so much gear flexibility. The devs since are just turning aspects into Pseudo sets where you have to run certain aspects just to be able to progress through the pit's highest tiers. They are even giving us caches that give an entire set of aspects for a certain build. I'm glad the game is at least showing signs of improvement, but I hope that people don't accept this as enough because it is still well below mediocrity.

[@chicomanara]

At least now they are using what worked on D3. Still not playing it outside a HUGE discount.

[@Pedrokuspi]

pew pew loot pew pew loot pew pew loot

[@andyfibb]

the itemization was always my biggest complaint.. %dmg to close enemies etc shit was so dog trash. lol maybe decent now like d3 idk

[@DuyTaSama]

Damn, D4’s devs now can moon walk backward, or i should say toward lol😂

[@alex4ucj]

Comparing it with PoE is just silly to be honest, pretty sure PoE was even worse after just 4 leagues, many enjoy 'greater rifts' they are more fun than Monoliths.

[@JAH93]

The simple truth is both games can exist and be enjoyed. I play both and like both and both have a lot of issues. These frail elitists get up in their feelings when their identity is threatened though and instead of adapting they prefer to lash out sadly.

[@spythe]

I think they finally nailed the modern day action RPG... which is what D3 was The hardcore D2 fans will never be pleased by the current state but I think for a mass consumer title, they went in the right direction I really had that every class has basically 2/3 builds that are spoon fed to you by the developers BUT I think they view ALL the classes as more content/stuff to do instead of a player just playing 1 class for a season.

[@JayBigDadyCy]

Season 25 will be "Skills Reborn". All jokes aside, the game is "fun" now. But there's not much replayability. The best part is being able to just login, go to a helltide and kill a bunch of stuff. But nightmare dungeons are still boring af, the Pit is just NM dungeons to level your weapons instead of your Glyphs. It seems so easy to make some meaningful changes. Starting with the most laughable skill tree in ARPG history. But they act like everything is almost impossible. Which is ridiculous.

[@Mordis3791]

D4 good ?

[@juts89]

D4 'fine'

[@Joormode]

D4 better

[@McN4styFilth]

D4 okay

[@benjamincarmona3703]

D4 not worth 70 dollars

[@MyNameIsSalo]

so the new crafting system is the same crafting system, but theyve added extra rng layers ontop? Where is the actual crafting? You put item in window and roll a dice. That's not crafting. This reminds me of stuff like Genshin Impact crafting, if you'd even call it that. Infact the masterwork system is straight up ripped off from games like Genshin Impact (which im not personally against, I just think "loot reborn" is a bit fucking rich for stealing a gameplay element from a gacha game). Also why are they moving towards D3? The purpose of D4 is to be a successor to D3, not living in the shadow of it. Do something new and innovative and evolve the aRPG formula. Blizzard is the best funded aRPG development team by a mile, being backed by Microsoft now. Use that money to do something the industry hasn't seen before, instead of throwing it all away on cutscenes and advertisements and leaving 5% of the total budget to development. Microsoft should cut their losses and shut down Blizzard at this point, they're a joke.

[@Smashedcrabby]

poe is also irellevant till level 70+

[@dagowow]

>ascendancies are irrelevant >the skill tree is irrelevant >skill gems, support gems, auras are irrelevant >caster specific weapons are irrelevant >knowing campaign layouts is irrelevant >having a fundamental grasp of gameplay interactions is irrelevant is this a kink of yours, being laughed at?

[@n91312]

You're playing games all day nothing you do is meaningful, doesn't matter if it's PoE or D4

[@malzagod1429]

Exactly except these stupid gamers can't see that.

[@sephrinx4958]

Diablo 4 devs: We have no idea what we're doing. Yeah, that is crystal clear. Diablo 4 So bad it literally made Mathil sick.

[@alex4ucj]

@sephrinx4958 He's just constipated, it will pass.

[@Intestine_Ballin-ism]

It's insane how they think they need to reinvent the wheel together with hot water in one swoop with every update

[@JodsLife1]

this is what happens when a company creates a game with a very intellectually low skill cap ... then turn to that games main players for advice on how to make the next iteration of that game.

[@Complication84]

oof. this is what we can hope for from the diablo franchise. that hurt lol. played d2 for years, skipped d3 cause didnt like it. came back for d4 cause supposed to be more like d2. d4 bad. now d4 d3, me no like.

[@CR-un7wl]

D4 was always dangerously close to D3 unfortunately. Almost no build diversity, end game was just trying to push rift until you get sick of it. They really really needed a team that had nothing to do with D3 diablo immortal to make D4. Way too much imported from those games. Blizzard would've done better by taking inspiration from D2 mods like median xl, or PoE for how to build items for diversity, and what kind of passive to make for interesting skill trees.

[@AngladaFrankFrankyvape]

Don't know if D4 being more like D3 should be celebrated. It just means they have failed twice to make a decent follow-up to Diablo 2 to me.

[@pseudipto]

I had more fun in last couple days in d4 than the last 4 weeks of necropolis lol

[@Siegram999]

Shoutout to alex4ucj going out of his way to straight up make stuff up to defend his favorite company blizzard and insults anyone who disagrees in the comment section.

[@Avaloneer1]

In the trenches working overtime 😂

[@Se7en7upp]

i dont understand how can one be so stupidly blind do defend such a pile of shit. It's insane honestly. Same goes to people on d4 reddit on their honeymoon 'BEST GAME EVER' after 12 hours of gameplay in at lvl 45

[@Nhire]

How to make a "new" game and make it worse than the last xD especially considering Blizzshit is not a small studio, medium studio, or slightly big one, its a GIANT company and yet they mess it up this bad.

[@bobbobb5759]

i don't get why everyone worries so much. it was $70...its not a biggie to jus stop if its of no interest...lol

[@jashkevrc]

Exactly why ppl ask about game, you want to get some worth out of the money you paid for game, and 70 bucks worth is like 100 hours for example in witcher 3 and here you get like....10 to 20 at most

[@valebonfi4482]

@@jashkevrc >10 to 20 at most LMAO They announced D4 had 1.2 billion hours played after 4 months, Larian announced BG3 had 400 million hours after 4 months. But It's not even the point, 10/20 hours is still plenty of content, but I guess they have to do it like every other arpg and just force you to replay the same boring, low effort content 100 or more times so you can get back your money's worth.

[@bobbobb5759]

@@jashkevrc I can spend 70+ going out for some drinks or food. *shrug* it's all whatever in grand scheme of things

[@uhmmmFU]

@@bobbobb5759 enjoy also paying 59.99 for expansions that are 1/6th of a poe or torchlight league lol

[@BlackSabbahattinn]

this game needs more damage modifiers and type also improved skill tree...

[@L0-C01]

The skill tree is the worst thing about this game (that’s saying something). It’s so shallow and boring

[@daymas]

D4 is fun for one week... than 😴😴😴

[@oldtimebenchmarks5294]

My opinion on the season is that it's a good direction for the game but now reduce all loot drops by 95% and enable trading for everything

[@johnnydanford5640]

Gear doesn't matter until you hit end game. Not a lot of build diversity: you have a defined set of items/goals to reach and your build is done. Short play time until next content update. This is the same experience 99% of people have in PoE SC trade.

[@chrislastname1994]

Except that's not the case at all. Whether you're in poe SC trade or not, there is build diversity and diverse endgame. The difference between meta builds in poe and Diablo is that in D4 you're playing a meta build because there are only 3 builds total for a class. In poe people choose to play a meta, but there are numerous options and variations on that meta build.

[@PanSurtido]

@@chrislastname1994 if you say build in d4 are all the same then you really haven't played s4, tempering alleviated build diversity a lot.

[@chrislastname1994]

@PanSurtido bro you need to take the glasses off. Build diversity requires a lot of builds to exist to begin with. That's just not the case in d4. Tempering didn't change that anymore than vampire powers did in season 2. The skill tree simply doesn't have that many skills and thus not that many builds. Also, builds are a little deeper than just getting an armor piece with main Stat health and some random tempered stats. When you play some arpgs with actual depth you get just how shallow d4 is.

[@PanSurtido]

@@chrislastname1994 i play PoE the difference is i don't feel superior because of it, with rogue you can play: Dash Shadowstep Poison trap Death trap Pen shot Heartseeker Rapid fire Barrage Twisting Blades Flurry You can focus on 3 different imbues, combo points/focus/ultimates, 5 keystones that change completely how you scale your dmg, and have wiggle room in aspects/affixes. If you only play maxroll builds i can see why you think there isn't a lot of build diversity, its like if i said PoE has no build diversity because 9/10 deadeyes play LA/TS with the exact same bow and probably the same uniques(like kaoms/voll's vision pre nerf)

[@chrislastname1994]

@PanSurtido I don't think I'm superior, but I do acknowledge reality. Simply listing different things that exist in a game doesn't make them viable builds you know that. I don't know what maxwell builds are out for d4 because there was no need for me to use them. If you're happy with d4 that's cool. If you think there is depth and diversity in the builds, I think you're delusional. That's just my opinion though dude. I wish you good games bro.

[@StereoxAS]

Fucking MedianXL has much more depth than this lmao

[@ChigMcWack]

Attacking Last Epoch like that, not cool

[@NovemberX]

inferior syndrome

[@knutHB]

….all the fun stuff last POE league doesn’t 😁 and take a look at the twitch numbers..

[@kenjikodai]

They'll survive for now but if PoE really does to that whole PoE and PoE 2 doing its own leagues every now and then, I don't see D4 ever being able to compete. I enjoy Diablo but currently nothing in 4 is even in line with skills that I like and on D3 I only had like 5 skills I even liked. It's gonna be rough for them

[@NhuQuynh-nv7fp]

Why do they need to compete with Poe ? D4 already got ur money whereas Poe still needs to impress to buy their microtrx

[@kenjikodai]

@@NhuQuynh-nv7fp I'm not the right person to help you on understanding basic concepts. Good luck and I hope you find that someone.

[@NhuQuynh-nv7fp]

@@kenjikodaid4 made so much money.. Poe is collecting crumbs and begging players to buy their stash lol coffins … you people are pathetic

[@alex4ucj]

​@@kenjikodai'sKiLz' shut up noob

[@valentingeorges9286]

@@NhuQuynh-nv7fp D4 is so bad that even the professional shit-eaters don't want to play it

[@sirdook2761]

Give me breakpoints, fhr, ias, fcr, frw, block rate and frames, etc. Items are so boring in D4.

[@andreasb-j4128]

I mean.. as Long as you only have 1 choice on a skill on the “skill tree” it isnt much of a game. Do whatever you want for the end game, if i vant even make something different from you what is the idea of playing the game?

[@girthpapi]

D4 is such a joke man, how are people eating this up? I just want a real D2 sequel, a game that uses those systems as a starting point and improves upon them. Two "sequels" that have thrown itemization out the fucking window. It's insane. At least we have PoE, and for my Diablo fix, PD2 is still going strong.

[@hawkervonrubin]

i still haven't gotten past act 2 in the story line. and i loaded up this new season and went skip campaign because its so bad. well, i got to level 30 in 10-15 minutes and closed the game. at every single level of this game is complete trash. its horrible. honestly, wtf blizzard?

[@TheOne23_]

What class you play, I did that on barb quit level 20. Came back next day and sorc is so much better

[@Pavidota]

people really paid 80 dollars to the worst game publisher on earth just for them to realize how awful their product was and then just revert it to d3, at least you helped fund d5 in 5 or so years

[@alex4ucj]

@Pavidota Game is just $35 on steam and battlenet on numerous occasions, also free via game pass, so complaining about the prize is just silly to be honest, the audio and graphics budgets exceeds PoE and LE alot, so let's be fair, also bringing back things from D3 or D2 is not a bad thing, do you think PoE 2 won't have things from PoE 1 and it will be completely original? Dumbass.....

[@JAH93]

I mean same shit happens with the hundreds of dollars per person spent on supporter packs for path every single league and then they deliver us Necropolis shit sandwich on a silver platter after a delay to boot. Yet the whales will slurp that dookie up and lick Chris Wilson’s testies no complaints and then turn right around with their mouths still smeared with shit saying “d4 bad!”. It really makes no sense to me.

[@Arkarak-ky5sp]

But what about PvP ? why nobody talks about it ..

[@lolbajset]

nobody plays arpgs for pvp lmao

[@Intestine_Ballin-ism]

​@@lolbajsetman I miss d2 lld

[@Gavinbelson]

damn nice take!

[@xzcuhu]

nice tldr, ty

[@TrueCasualYT]

I'm waiting for offline and mods till i buy D4.

[@rangagump5591]

You'll be waiting a long time...

[@FreezyPenguin]

Diablo 4 is a cookie clicker, not an ARPG

[@BoyoLoco-rd2fi]

Please dont insult Cookie Clicker. I actually played that for days unlike D4

[@alex4ucj]

@FreezyPenguin Agree Diablo 4 is a cookie clicker on 6 skill bars, PoE a cookie clicker on 1-2 skills on endgame.🤡

[@FreezyPenguin]

@@alex4ucj You can bind more skills in PoE than in D4 so I don't see your point

[@alex4ucj]

@@FreezyPenguin Bind doesn't equal actually using them

[@Intestine_Ballin-ism]

​@@alex4ucjclearly never got to maps lol

[@myrkshideouts6020]

I WANT TO PLAY MY FAVORITE GAME POE BUT I CANT CAUSE THEY HAVE TO REWORK TRADE SIMULATOR AND PIGEON PICKING UP 400 items on the ground simulator FROM THIS GAME

[@Mr.Soberish]

i like your shirt

[@Hoowwwww]

this game is over rated, i'd rather watch you play elden ring, DLC is next month, there is still time for your 1st playthrought, just saying :p

[@wolvie90]

So long Diablo 4, we hardly knew ya.

[@iamarugin]

D4 bad

[@chrisservoss9513]

D4mid

[@PlayGamesRideBikes]

Imagine something this fucking terrible coming from a AAA company.

[@suicidesquadie7990]

Not hard to imagine. Redfall, Destiny's latest relases, the actual scam that is Warcraft 3 Reforge, the list is long.

[@Darkspawn6666]

D4 bad, surely season 25 will fix it Clown69Copium

[@aK1baby]

i really don't know man, how can they throw away such an beloved IP. all they had to do is: take what fans made and put it into better visuals. D2 was the game ppl wanted - so as ppl often don't know what they actually want, there where ppl finding the exact angle with certain mods over the years. enhanced the flawed system and giving it some twist and turns bolstering endgame content and flatening out busted stuff. imagine they simply took that blueprint and bringing it alive with new tech. but they are not interested in that - clearly they had a vision, a vision of printing money and it went horrorbly wrong. they just felt short on grasping ppl needs and thought they can make a fancy game for a different audience that isn't even interested in games like that. sometimes its probably better to know your place and start from there i guess.

[@danfuller9840]

I kind of get what you're saying, but they were never going to make it play and feel like D2. If you want D2 with decent graphics, it already exists

[@ShinetsuYuki]

I’m glad it isn’t a carbon d2 copy. This season definitely a step in the right direction

[@aK1baby]

@@danfuller9840 iam on your page here. i don't want a nother d2 either. it just feels like they lack heart for the IP. its a full blown money maschine - cliffhanger story with insane monetization (iam not even mad that they want to earn money, but they simply haven't made any incentives cuz all they have is a shallow product :-D ) thats quite an achivement by all the given potential lying around, that could've been picked up with a set amount of money they got.

[@KM-us1nc]

Why can't they just get this right.... FFS

[@JAH93]

Sadly exactly what I say about PoE too...or any modern game nowadays 😂

[@Zetsuei13]

The failed build diversity is due to "Content creators"... they were there to test stuff on the PTR, they posted what was considered "Broken" That are now outright trash and nerfed, destroying what potential "Diversity" the game had coming out of PTR. Hopefully they go back on the nerfs from the PTR stuff, adding back the fun to many other builds.

[@arcc4]

The game is always going to lack build diversity because it is designed with extremely homogenized RPG mechanics that are really meant for MMOs. Basically, the more everything is the same under the hood and the more every build needs to be able to be good in the same way the faster it all devolves into just raw math differences and practical application. Worst because there is a bunch of agnostic damage multipliers like main stat causing number inflation these differences grow exponentially.

[@andrewzmorris]

Not at all. It's because the mechanics have zero depth.

[@appelsap]

@@andrewzmorris it is so funny because some of those tempered stats could have easily been drop only affixes which would actually make the loot more interesting. Now you have life resist armor life regen and %dmg?

[@steel5897]

Look, it's fine, a D3 sequel being done right is better than whatever the HELL they were trying to go for with their original vision for D4 which was horribly executed. Poor premise with good execution beats a good premise with poor execution, every time without fail, unless you are are BOTH narrow minded and also have low standards. What they did here is cut out the fat, throw away a bunch of things that weren't working, and embraced the mindless number go up gameplay that D3 did right. Maybe it's disappointing that they never get to make the D4 they were aiming for, whatever the actual **** that was supposed to be, but they objectively improved the game despite the change in direction.

[@alex4ucj]

@steel5897 Pretty sure PoE 2 will have things throwed from PoE 1 in it and it won't be completely original, overthinking it is just grasping at straws to be honest, or just rotating behind one's tail.

[@Kamelosk]

Literally no reason to have a perfect gear, why would you waste time gearing for a challenge that doesnt exist

[@fergusonja8]

Got bored after 1:24 lol

[@rusduderus]

got bored after reading that you got bored, imma go play Vrising i guess xd

[@aK1baby]

made it up to 2:01 - had to keep the vid running for mathil, but went out of the room to comeback eventually hearing the summary at the end :-D - had to support mathil tho

[@Adepth7]

So "gotten a lot better" made you leave? So.. looking for that confirmation-bias fell short today I see

[@morfea123]

Unless they move glyph leveling from key dungeons or revamp key dungeons, game is dead as soon you go in key dungeons. Imagine worst POE unique map = that is almost every dungeon in d4. Annoying, backtracking and slow. Quit after 3 key dungeons

[@packyak5060]

d4 bad grim dawn legit has better gameplay lmaoo

[@XicoTurbina]

This franchise died with the legendary Diablo 2. IMO even Median XL (a mod) is better than Diablo 3 and 4, sadly this is what greed does to a game.

[@JonBoyTheMagnanimous]

D4 will never be a good game because it is managed by people who do not care, this is not a slight against them it is just the reality, they are working 9-5 jobs and have a check list of things they need to do to keep their job, it is not made with passion or excitement, it is made to be sold as a product not as a piece of art

[@theeprospect8210]

Your video is to negative, play another game if it makes you sigh with every sentence, look at your comment section. Nothing but negative. Its the best update this diablo

[@yimwee2401]

Did you even watch the video? He mentions the changes are "good" and "fun" multiple times. He has obviously put in a decent amount of time into the game, you can like a game and still criticize the bad parts.

[@loxmonsk4919]

D4 bad🎶D4 dogshit🎶D4 bad

[@ADVGuiltyParty]

Diablo 4: Diablo 3 reborn. D3 was the worst arpg in the series because the power curve and loot felt like it wasn’t earned. Once I’m done with SSF R this will be a shock to the system and will probably enjoy it for a short time

[@IplayTeemoasaWard]

"Its the first sprinkle of sugar on shit shit cake" isnt the flex you think it is

[@Tenosyn]

D4 bad

[@alex4ucj]

@Tenosyn🐑 bah...bah...bah