Dabi's REAL Quirk REVEALED! How Dabi REALLY Died - My Hero Academia

[@silversonic99]

i feel like this explains why natsu out of everyone seems to hate Endeavor or the most. He felt guilty because Touya tried to reach out to him and he essentially dropped the ball. That guilt turned to hate towards the person who made Touya feel that way in the first place.

[@charlie.7722]

@@BL00PE both could be correct

[@Denturess]

@@BL00PE no it is Touya. In hiragana it’s written as Touya. とうや

[@HypeLozerInc]

@@Denturess Damn Son SHWIING on em

[@xxrusydimcxx1381]

@@BL00PE rolled on

[@alliemandleni5846]

@Galactic Vegan but...it's...respect...tho...?

[@vp6731]

I just realized that when Rei was telling him to find someone else to look up to, someone else he wanted to become..he finally did...in Stain. That kind of back fired.

[@R3D_H00D2]

Stain ain't that bad In the end he just wanted humanity to be stronger

[@justjforsure]

LOL RIGHT

[@khadeem56]

Stain isn't wrong, his execution is but again the flaws in their .society led to that.

[@khadeem56]

@@tnb4509 why didn't he kill deku? You do understand the hero society is flawed right? adults are talking

[@vp6731]

@@tnb4509 He's killed like 30 people, Dabi I mean, so hes also a pretty bad villain. He idolizes Stain because he was raised by a fake hero and wants to support Stains ideals because they match his drive.

[@robyn2124]

I’d also like to say, how much horikoshi’s art has developed and improved. Since the beginning of the manga he’s art style has really come along and is now his own. It’s so beautiful to see.

[@-louie-5980]

exactly not enough people talk about how good his art is and the way he stylized and connects panels too is just incredible too bad the anime can't replicate the same thing with animation sequences

[@robyn2124]

@@-louie-5980 agreed, if I’m being honest I don’t think the anime always does the manga justice art-wise and style-wise.

[@MuhammadMuizzuddin-ml6xt]

@@robyn2124 'v' vc''v' c'vvcv"v'vc"'' liklihood ^2 e ~ek098

[@robyn2124]

@@MuhammadMuizzuddin-ml6xt you alright dude?

[@Thatkimm]

Well once mangas gain popularity, most artists gain employees and help to lessen the strain and improve quality and speed.

[@jl_hatake6869]

Shoto: goo goo gaa gaa Touya: and I took that personally...

[@shadowbladesabre1945]

@@BL00PE both are correct, Touya is probably the more correct one

[@4.llir4]

@@BL00PE no it’s touya

[@noname3930]

@@shadowbladesabre1945 it’s either Tōya or Touya. Like you said either one works

[@vellentinevoltaire9170]

@@BL00PE Toya is the English version and Touya is Japanese like Jirou/Jiro or Bakugo/Bakugou

[@adam.bnj_]

@@BL00PE why are you trying to do the smart one if you’re wrong?

[@charnav4359]

Man the fact that Toya really just wanted to prove to his father that he wasn’t a mistake is just heartbreaking 😭

[@karmaakabane7871]

Just like Azula, both of these characters make me cry so much

[@bluenazex1598]

@@karmaakabane7871 nah you mean just like Azula and Zuko, Zuko also wanted to prove to his dad that he wasn't just *lucky to be born* and he wanted his fathers love

[@karmaakabane7871]

@@bluenazex1598 yeah, Shoto is actually based off of Zuko, so I just guessed that Touya/Dabi was based off of Azula

[@bluenazex1598]

@@karmaakabane7871 yeah your right about that, just a complicated mix of emotions between these 2 families

[@bluenazex1598]

@@karmaakabane7871 Azula wanted her mother's love but only got her fathers praise, Zuko wanted his fathers praise but only got his mother's love, Soto wanted his mother's love but instead got his fathers ideals, Toya wanted his fathers ideals but instead got pushed aside

[@mister_myst]

Rei: it’s all our faults Shoto: *I was 5 what did I do?-*

[@kue6916]

being born 💀

[@luxg3065]

I also wouldn't blame the other siblings

[@nuramanimohdrazif2260]

@@kue6916 yeah I know right💕, Shoto was my favourite character but after knowing the truth about Dabi, I pity Dabi TwT

[@natsu-kunanimen7065]

I mean Touya has a grudge agaknst each of them so by pov it is all their faults though not exactly

[@ochacouraraka5684]

@@luxg3065 yeah they were children if anything all the blame goes on endeavor and rei

[@rattales58]

The saddest part is when dabi (in his last moments as Touya) was crying he must have thought about offing himself when endeavor did not show up. So his quirk start him ablaze (due to his despair and unhinged psyche)

[@jm8837]

Yes. I really think he suicide.

[@sam10reis]

Yeah he didn’t do it on purpose, he can produce stronger flames when connected with emotions, but no one taught him to stop the flames, so he was so sad enji didn’t show up he started ablaze

[@clamency1735]

@@BL00PE Both Touya and Toya is correct

[@SORREYSOREN]

@@BL00PE 😁🙌

[@Censortag]

@@clamency1735 kinda like gojo and gojou

[@dedrickjones8570]

When he said he didn't want to be a mistake Man i almost cried its just sad

[@butternutyeeetsbanana.-.5389]

**Dabi looking at shoto** Dabi: “looking at his stupid little face, hey what’s up little man?” Natsuo: “dude he’s just baby.” Dabi: “nah, look at his dumb little face!” Shoto: 👁👄👁

[@shadowmomochiuchiha6839]

hey......i might get backlash but i like dabi better than shoto

[@pratik4833]

@@shadowmomochiuchiha6839 Don't worry I love Dabi more than shoto too

[@shadowmomochiuchiha6839]

@@pratik4833 best character just a character i can relate to, i dont have a good father myself

[@pratik4833]

@@shadowmomochiuchiha6839 bro how accurate can you be same here,I would the exact same thing as him.

[@pratik4833]

@@shadowmomochiuchiha6839 I too am neglected to some extent but I have friends and I hope you too

[@brandonasher8622]

Rei: “It’s all of our fault” Shoto: “I literally did nothing wrong”

[@amazingamer360]

He almost got killed by the hands of his own brother after birth, was abusively trained to be the number one hero, scarred for life, and now extreme family issues are a weight being held on him. I feel so bad for him (I'm talking about Shoto)

[@InvestedGman]

@@amazingamer360 Me too But 2 wrongs never makes a Right So him being a Villain just proves that he’s No better than Endeavor.

[@superthorc6894]

Rei: of course not You’re the family hero Shoto: damn straight

[@ravyxen]

@@InvestedGman he’s definitely better than endeavor, but that doesn’t mean we should excuse his actions. Dabis issues come from trauma and mental illness, endeavors issues come from jealousy, greed, and self centered ideals. Both issues sure, but the fault ultimately falls onto endeavor for giving him the trauma that made him the way he is.

[@zaylendaniels]

@@ravyxen yeah but Dabi has killed innocent people while even though Endeavor was an selfish abusive husband and father but he hasn’t murdered anyone

[@otakuanimelove6969]

By reading the latest chapter i think that the parents were selfish and messed up. They thought the problem was Touya's obsession with becoming a hero but in actuality this chapter has clearly revealed that what he wanted was to be acknowledged as a living being. He wanted his father to recognize him as his son not a tool for a means. It was never about explaining to him that there are other things he could do, but rather treat him as a child.

[@paulgotik]

dabi is selfish too. His parents tried to make him understand that he couldn't be what he and his father wanted for his own sake, for his own health, he probably would never get the acknowledge of his father but he could have had focus on his mother, he could've ignored is father like so many people who grow up with bad father have to do. But yes the parents where also selfish there's no doubt about it. Dabi had a bad enveironment but, like shouto show us, he could've made better choices and live a normal life, even be a hero in his own way.

[@cactus-lover8780]

@@paulgotik that’s true,but the thing that gets me is that he was reaching out to his siblings and they ignored him

[@mmasi9244]

@@paulgotik dabi was a child, he was 13. he wasnt being selfish he was being a child. what he saw was his neglectful father like his younger brother more for someone he cant control. he felt like he was resented for being a 'mistake'. he grew up way too quickly any child should. he had a dream to be hero and his parents denied it and himself, but then he would see his father choose his younger brother over him? that would be traumatic. dabi wasnt being selfish he was trying to live in a dog eat dog environment. the oldest 3 siblings were tossed aside for being 'weak', it was him vs shoto to become the 'hero'. when you live with the no.2 hero you want to be hero too he couldn't just give up. midoryia could of given up to live a normal life but he didnt i dont see the difference. yes he could of made better choices but he was 13 in a traditional household where he is neglected and has no friends plus no one to talk to ( after natsuo 'regected' him he probably didnt speak to him abt it again ) his 'childish' dream was the only thing keeping him going. he wasnt being selfish at all. /gen

[@MigIgg]

@@mmasi9244 Toya was also the firstborn of the todoroki family, which makes the situation even more painful and sad for him

[@ochacouraraka5684]

@@paulgotik yes he could’ve but toya admired endeavor just like deku admired all might and remember how crappy deku felt when he was told by the one person he admired most he couldn’t be a hero? That’s how toya felt his own father, his idol refused to even acknowledge him and when toya asked endeavor to see what he could do with his quirk he neglected him he wasn’t just his father he was his idol

[@BeesyBee2337]

Imagine the pain this kid had to go through, it's heart breaking. All he wanted to do was be a hero...

[@pole8740]

not even that, he just want his father to love him

[@childesleftsock]

no, all he wanted was his father’s acknowledgment, and he couldn’t even get something as simple as that although, we really do have to understand that endeavor doesnt have much experience as a father; he didn’t know _how_ to stop touya without raising his hopes in surpassing all might BUT STILL, TOUYA JUST WANTS O N E PRAISE FROM HIM, AND HE CANT EVEN DO THAT 😭 BFKSJDKWJSPQ *cries in a corner*

[@goodbye6676]

He couldn't be a hero...his ice body literally couldn't handle his quirk and endeavor told him stop training Toya was stubborn like endeavor and couldn't give up the ambition either and that made him think he's not good enough 🤷 I don't know what Endeavor could've done- If a couch tells you you can be a super star athlete and then you get a long term injury that will take a toll on your mental state although Endeavor could've told Toya he wasn't a mistake but Toya already believed he was and Rei could've told him too don't forget

[@childesleftsock]

@@goodbye6676 true, but if he received the *right* training; just like how deku couldn’t handle his quirk at first, m a y b e, he could’ve learned how to control his quirk in a *better* way, rather than a self-destructive way

[@goodbye6676]

@@childesleftsock yes but Toya has a body made for a ice quirk unlike deku who just has a OP quirk

[@hitori9865]

THATS WHY UNDER HIS EYES WERE BURNT OMG

[@thepersonwhogivesflashback9757]

Bruh no one commented.

[@hitori9865]

@@thepersonwhogivesflashback9757 hey i mean i got likes soooo, a dont see any problem am i right?

[@thepersonwhogivesflashback9757]

@@hitori9865 yeah I mean, usually someone would show up, commenting random shit.

[@hitori9865]

@@thepersonwhogivesflashback9757 yeah I mean at least tgey giving me like instead of some way to roast me, a guess

[@adelsie4887]

Just think about it though he cried so much to the point that his eye bags turned purple idk but that's really sad 😭😭 I just wanna give him a hug brooo

[@ms_loli6349]

The ' I wasn't a mistake ' part really hit hard 🤧😭😭😭😭 Edit : thanks for the likes omg I never gotten over 500 or so thank u

[@digiwouder]

Right, when I read that, I almost cried, someone please tell this boy that he wasn't a mistake and that he was loved. It's a real shame, Touya really did deserved better😭😭😭

[@elijahblast7548]

The saddest part is the fact that what happened to Touya could’ve been prevented. If Endeavor let go of his hatred and actually tried to be a father, if Rei stood up to Endeavor and talked to her child, if his siblings tried to help him, Dabi is a result of circumstances which is so tragic

[@voidTheBoy7409]

No kid should have to say that😭😭😭

[@Anu32148]

I really did myself dirty being a shoto and dabi stan, I was crying at 12am..😭😭

[@asiandod325]

@@elijahblast7548 Nah. I doubt anything could have stopped it once Endeavour put heroics into his head. If Endeavour just said he loved him, Touya would think it to be a lie, a lie to knock out Shoto's rival. Even if they all changed mid-way I doubt Dabi could ever be saved.

[@II-ne3lp]

Literally everybody in dabi’s life failed him and it’s so terribly heart breaking Edit: My god y’all I’m not blaming a literal baby(shoto). Should’ve clarified. It’s not directly his younger siblings fault, his resentment towards them stems from his emotional neglect and physical abuse endured courtesy of Enji and rei Todoroki (yes rei, although she was abused too she also 100% neglected her children emotionally, and as a result of her severe PTSD (again, courtesy of Endeavor) she physically abused one of her kids. Honestly all touya wanted was someone to be proud of him, specifically Endeavor because he was the biggest figure in his life. He’s a villain because when he was at his lowest he was found and saved by a villain. So it makes sense lol. Not justifying but sometimes things like this are explainable.

[@An-ni3lf]

Did he die?

[@fizzy4804]

@@An-ni3lf no lmao

[@themonkeyking6733]

@@An-ni3lf no toya died Dabi is still alive

[@watergirl929]

Yup. God this is like the absolute worst situation I have ever had when choosing which side I want to win. I love Touya and feel horrible for him and I can’t blame him at all for becoming what he is now I don’t want him die. But in the end he is a villain and everyone knows as a fact in the end the villains never win in any show. And I can’t see any possible way they could redeem him. And then on the other hand you got the whole family who are all broken and feeling massive guilt and remorse for knowing they could have helped him but they didn’t and it resulted in this. They wanna fix it but wth do they think they can do?! If they confront him Rei Fuyumi and Natsu would be like flies to him. And I don’t think he would have a problem at all with killing them just to make the situation for Endeavor even worse. I don’t want them to die either I love Shoto and don’t want him to suffer more either :( This is a no win situation for me. But I already know who will win in the end anyway. God this is gonna be a pain to watch someday x(

[@jqann]

@@themonkeyking6733 toya is dabi tho??

[@usnavidelavooga380]

What hurts me the most about that small moment between Natsuo and Touya, is that Natsuo didn’t mean ANY harm. When people constantly rant and vent to you- it’s draining sometimes. It REALLY is. So Natsuo isn’t in the wrong for just asking for space- but since Touya has been neglected for years, he automatically takes it terribly... I was like Touya at one point.(granted, the person I ranted to all the time was a bad friend regardless)I’m way better now, but being that way is so painful on the mind-😔🙏🏾 Edit: I’m so glad y’all understand and I hope everyone is doin okay😭it’s hard but eventually everyone will get their peace of mind🙏🏾

[@yawanathanjoseph8160]

Horikoshi is such a great writer

[@jasmineovo7539]

That’s good for you! Progress is the a step to getting better! And I agree

[@dorionisntsteezy59]

Don’t care plus your black

[@dreamdesk7258]

Thank god you didn’t go insane and kill hundreds of innocent people

[@ninjagirl226]

I've been in a similar situation too. However, I've bottled it up and rant to the wall so know one really knows; maybe it's the social distancing, maybe it's my own pride, but more likely it's because if I act out I'll just be proving to everyone that I can't handle the situation and that will only prove them right. And that's the sad thing the way Touya was acting as a kid only shows that he would have ended up like Endeavor if not worse had he actually managed to become a hero (and he never met a Deku-like character to change his perspective of course).

[@flotskryz]

All for one should try giving an ice quirk to Dabi, his body is already suited for such quirk and would improve on the use of his fire

[@NukeTheWorld]

I’ve always wondered this. You’d also think because of the nature of his birth (conceived between a fire quirk user and ice quirk user) that his body would already be biologically suited for a second ice quirk.

[@raec5426]

*But idk if you can just give away quirks like that* (might need some type of medical procedure too). Multiple quirks are what made people into nomus since they loose their brain power with just giving them quirks (except for special cases like AFO and OFA) so they needed the doctor to motify them.

[@sageblast3143]

He can get Getens quirk

[@NukeTheWorld]

@@sageblast3143 true but I really don’t want to see Geten or even ReDestro taken out of the story so soon after not really having much spotlight during the war.

[@besbbbshdb5058]

All for one little bro had a quirk then was given a second without any medical procedures

[@wills5945]

Oft, touya shouting “then you’ll realise I wasn’t a mistake” is probably gonna make me cry when it’s animated

[@asingingnightsmoonlight7352]

Yeah me too...

[@30-prityushadutta89]

This whole chapter gonna make me cry in animated state

[@RagingHamster]

Shoto: I know what you're going to say. He's my brother, and I should be trying to get along with him. Uncle Iroh: No, he's crazy, and he needs to go down

[@kalie1602]

🤣

[@sparrowslife5142]

Omg... I just realized all the connections including the "fire-bending"

[@samanthasousa8410]

Honestly we need an Uncle Iroh in this freaking family

[@shadowfryarwolf]

@@samanthasousa8410 I AM WILLING TO BE THAT! I WILL BE IROH!!!

[@shannoncoyle8437]

lol I love this sm

[@blurrilines6148]

It’s astounding to watch Endeavor’s interactions with Touya to go from him being an engaged father training his sons quirk for a mutual dream, to no longer training him for his own safety, to the blatant rejection and neglect of his own child. Even if you argue that Enji stopped training Touya for his own well-being he still went about it in a way that deeply harmed his son and his family.

[@goodbye6676]

How would you stop him- he can't be a hero his fire comes from his body

[@leleigh6338]

He literally tossed him aside and expected Touya to just magically fix himself, no therapy or anything

[@goodbye6676]

@@leleigh6338 people in Japan ignore mental health so that's not endeavor's fault also he didn't expect toya to fix himself he expected him to forget about wanting to be a hero and persue other things the world had to offer eventually and he was kinda right though he didn't forget completely and would think about training when he saw endeavor training shoto

[@goodbye6676]

@@leleigh6338Not totally he gave him multiple sit downs and talks to try and convince him but toya was plus ultra levels of stubborn

[@l.r.4006]

@@goodbye6676 Endeavor is a child abuser who turned one of his children into a villain and gave the other enough emotional damage to cause lifelong trauma

[@nishinoyasshoe]

Rei : "its all our fault" Shoto: "mother i was 5"

[@lunasworld4077]

Dabi's anger against Endeavor is justified but the hell did shoto do to him that he had to kill him. Shoto never had a say in what he wanted to do or how he wanted to do it

[@flokithedoggo5621]

exactly like Shoto nor Natsu did nothing wrong ;-;

[@anushkarana4942]

@@flokithedoggo5621 What did Fuyumi do?

[@theoneinblue3193]

@@lunasworld4077 Well he's insane and sees Shoto as a clarification that his birth was a mistake and that he is no use for his father, he still has the childish view. Ofc it's not Shoto's fault, he was a baby, he just put the cherry on top unknowingly, unintentionally. Just try to understand what trauma can cause you, and that it changes the way you see reality.

[@perfect__arts6297]

Which episode

[@kingkay14]

Ironic... Dabi wanted to train and shoto wanted to play. He forced his kids to do the opposite

[@invadermaythe1st]

Which is crazy because if he looked after both of them properly they’d probably be unstoppable It’s interesting how wonderfully these things are written, even if very very sad.

[@kingkay14]

@@invadermaythe1st indeed you’re right!

[@aoisora1445]

@@invadermaythe1st we call this in hindsight

[@koukkoufos2000]

@@aoisora1445 Honestly it’s Endeavor’s fault that his son Toya (Known as Dabi with blue fire lol) became a villain. If endeavor was a better dad he would treat his kids nicely and train both Toya and Shoto equally without abusing Shoto

[@bethanymcgonigle]

You can tell that touya really looked up to his dad and basically viewed the training session as bonding time with his dad

[@voidTheBoy7409]

If I was yelling at my Mom like Touyas was she'd drop kick me six feet under resurrect me and send me to my room

[@Anu32148]

Why is this so true!!

[@dreamdesk7258]

I saw this exact same comment on another video and can’t tell if you stole it or if you’re the same person

[@ninjagirl226]

...and then she would have told my dad and then the real punishment would begin...

[@lemonpie_vanilla]

ninjagirl226 damn true

[@logeyperogi1805]

I’d think my mom would do the same But one day, after years of hating my life while living with her and choosing to live with my dad, she tried forcing me to stay with her When I tried calmly explaining why I was gonna live with my dad, she began getting angry with me, yelling over everything I said until I finally had to yell over her “YOU MADE MY LIFE A LIVING HELL HERE, AND SCHOOL, IT WAS EVEN WORSE, THIS PLACE ISN’T MY HOME, IT NEVER WAS, I HATE THIS PLACE, LET ME GO, I MAY BE YOUR SON BUT I’M NOT YOUR PROPERTY, I’M FREE TO MAKE MY OWN DECISIONS!!!” She was speechless, because she realized I was right A parent can’t get angry if their child is speaking the truth, and if they do, they’re not a good parent

[@bandi642]

touya: dad i get burned a lot. endeavour: thats where support gear comes in. good ending

[@raeldri5867]

The plot doesn't allow this level of logic 🤣

[@storebought_nezuko8777]

…my guys a genius wtf

[@IlyTranq]

His parents didn't even try to explain the situation to him- so you can't really blame Touya for acting out

[@_Sloppyham]

You can’t really expect a child to understand that type of situation.

[@ninjagirl226]

I think he knew that his quirk hurt him...Touya just didn't care but his parents did. The failure is ultimately on the parents because Endeavor in particular should have worked with Touya to find a way to use his quirk and not burn himself so he could be a hero. But you can't blame them too much because let's say you had a child who loved to run but at a young age tore their Achilles; you really don't recover from that and you might have to force the child to do something else for their own wellbeing. Parents just want their children to be safe.

[@aidenrendon3790]

Nice take L

[@burna21bit]

They did explain but like his father he was bullheaded

[@dreamdesk7258]

No endeavor tried to explain over and over and over again but touya inherited his fathers stubbornness along side his dream of surpassing all might. Only thing is touya is a fucking psychopath

[@Anu32148]

Can we talk about how kind shoto is...he had every reason to resent his mom but choose not to..also right now he is lending his hand to endeavor who has abused him...and also despite being the youngest one he stood up to endeavor for his mom...he is so precious and pure-hearted...I hope him and touya atleast have a happy ending!!

[@lemonpie_vanilla]

He is such a great character

[@jm8837]

Deku impacted him

[@logeyperogi1805]

Exactly why his mother has stated that he is the hero of their family

[@alrune8]

@Noob S. I agree. The best outcome would be him accepting to be confined into a mental institution, probably for life, after being neutralized by his father and siblings. That's really sad.

[@DanHasLions]

It is anime/manga they will find away to make it happy ending. They did in Naruto, DBZ, and many others.

[@thirdplanet4471]

Endeavour: You were not meant to be a hero. That was not my fault! Touya: Who filled my head with dreams? Who drove me to train until my bones cracked? Who denied me my destiny?

[@goodbye6676]

The dream was mutual tho Toya drove endeavor to train on his day offs and his own body denied him his destiny

[@mikhael9344]

Master shifu is endeavor plot twist 🤣

[@euriditia]

gOD DAMN IT THE KUNG FU PANDA REFERENCE

[@leedlamini3935]

NICE😭

[@durrangodsgrief6503]

Should have wrote "Who drove me to train until my flesh burned"

[@elijahblast7548]

Rei: Enji you have to beat Dabi Endeavor: I can’t....he’s our son Rei: That didn’t stop you with Shoto, why start now

[@guillermosierracuellar9812]

Endeavor: so are you ok with me beating up our son Rei: yes but just this time Endeavor: there are better methods Rei: hey you said no to the therapy

[@morgajoka838]

well he probably thinks he will have to kill him. endeavor has clearly been haunted by the thought that he killed dabi, so to now be told that he may have to battle him to the death... I can see why he's hesitant. his awful training of the kids was ultimately his twisted way of nurturing and empowering them, he never meant to bring them any harm but he saw it as nessecary. endeavor is not a good man but he still has emotions like any father.

[@Lafayettz]

Omg why did I laugh😭👍

[@nm_0612.]

@@Lafayettz goodbye I saw it as a joke too💀💀

[@celebrei]

Honestly that line of Rei's makes me sick, what kind of a mother would tell her husband to fight/kill their son instead of asking him to save their son despite his crimes? doesn't sound very heroic or motherly to me.

[@ismaelbarry5359]

Toya Todoroki is currently 24 years old

[@SinodaGaming]

24th like

[@MigIgg]

For a while i thought he was 26-27, turns out I was wrong

[@Anu32148]

@@MigIgg yeah I thought there is like a 3 to 4 year difference between each kid...that's why I assumed something similar..also that means he is atleast 8 years older than shoto..

[@scopeiq5096]

Which means fuyumi is 23, natsu is 19, and shoto is 16

[@YounganMar3921]

I can’t wait for the fight to be animated it going to be a while tho 😞

[@theirnknight]

It's not all of their fault though lol, it's just his parents. Natsuo and Fuyumi were children struggling with the same toxic environment as him, they weren't in a position to save him from his fate and never did anything cruel, they just weren't able to predict how he'd react, and Shoto didn't do anything at all to him.

[@shadowwolf_6632]

Them being in the same toxic environment just further proves how at fault they are too. They should have stuck together to help each other cope. Touya vented to his brother (showing how he thought he would relate and talk and listen to him, not brush him off simply cause he got fed up with having to listen to Touya) but instead of being understanding he said something he shouldn't have and didn't even see later on (before he died) how what he said could have/DID affect Touya negatively. Idk about the sister though.

[@BV-bn1pu]

@@shadowwolf_6632 but at the same time, you have to understand they're all kids here (oldest being Touya, 13). I don't think they would've thought they "needed" to stick together to "survive." If you think about it, they were more or less in a "toxic family relationship"; they didn't have any physical environment problems where they would've had to stick together to "survive." It's quite difficult to explain, but they could all survive on their own and be fine (physically); they had food, clothes, and more than the necessities they needed. The only thing they really had to take care of was their mental state (which they didn't do very good with), and once things go down to mental problems. It's far more difficult than a physical problem (that's my opinion though).

[@shadowwolf_6632]

@@BV-bn1pu when you put it like that I agree that it's a high possibility that was the case for the siblings but I still think what I said is also a possibility, maybe not as big as yours but still possible.

[@shadowwolf_6632]

@@BV-bn1pu by possibility I mean "what should have happened"

[@BV-bn1pu]

@@shadowwolf_6632 ohhh I see, that makes sense; the family relationship of the Todoroki family wouldn't probably be as bad if that was the case.

[@InvestedGman]

This Reminds me of Zuko and his Father except there's No Uncle Iroh to set Touya/Dabi on the Right path.

[@Gully2k]

Good analysis

[@christinasterling612]

Dude this made me cry. I couldn’t imagine no Uncle Iroh. I could not.

[@asbolusarawn5433]

To me, it's the "Tai Lung" Situation. Dabi wants to prove that he's the successor to Endeavor, he worked his way up, regardless of his injuries, just to get the approval of someone he look up to (which is something that he's parallel to Izuku) he wanted to be the chosen one to Endeavor, not Shouto.

[@raghavdeshpande2905]

Leaves from the vine

[@betterlatethannever4529]

Cute. Trying to compare Ozai to Endeavour...

[@smorumanities]

I feel Shouto is finally getting his character development

[@mrdisaster5880]

Are you forgetting the fact that he accepted his fire quirk long time ago and the fact that he give his parents a second chance and decided to face his mother after the fight with deku? Shoto had lots of character development before now.

[@thebestplayeronline23yep94]

Mhm

[@0bstolerance]

I don't think this counts as character Dev tho

[@milkcheeze7881]

Shoto*?

[@transetter6441]

@@milkcheeze7881 Shouto is the actual way it's supposed to be spelled, like Bakugo is supposed to end with a u- It's just how it's supposed to translate-

[@Gunsblazin94]

Goddamn, this had to be one of the single greatest series of pages I've ever read in a manga. Dabi went from a cool villain, with a mystery attached, to jumping right past Stain and Gentle and becoming my favorite villain. Horikoshi really knocked this outta the park

[@nineplustentwentyone26]

Dabi is my most favourite villain ever!

[@mrdisaster5880]

What bugs me the most about this situation is that shoto is the one that is carrying the weight of the family and the one that is being targeted by dabi for something that is not his fault and something that started even before he was born that without mentioning that shoto was the one that was mentally, physically and emotionally abused by his dad and yet he is kind enough to give both of his parents a second chance, also in my opinion hirekoshi have the best art in shounen every new chapter I’m more and more impressed with that man’s drawing skills is just pure beauty.

[@Anu32148]

Yeah, the boy is so kind-hearted it makes me tear up just thinking about it...he deserved so much better than what he got..also even in the past despite being the youngest he stood up to endeavor...Shoto is so precious!!!🥺🥺

[@jm8837]

Shoto's going to be a great dad for sure but before all that he's gonna be a great hero too.

[@miguelperez9906]

Remember dabi is currently so mentally screwed up that I would feel wrong to not classify him as having a mental illness. He found out that him and shoto were viewed by his father as tools to accomplish a job tools which once they brake near not be given any atention (this chapter kinda focussed on that) so probably he views himself and shoto as less than human just as two tools two experiments made by endeavor. So his goal is to take endeavors two tools away from him preeminently this is explicitly implied with his statements of his intent to die taking shoto and all that he represents away from endeavor. Personally there are two outcomes that would be good for dabi the family abd would bring “justice” for the villains he himself killed (which is oddly all he has killed snatch was technically killed by mr. Compress) and that would be 1 which is the most realistic option a mental institution similar to the one his mother was in with medication tailored to not only deal with violent psychosis but the extream amounts of pain he must constantly be in (which could drive anyone insane) or option 2 which is more grandiose and Lilly the better outcome for the family and the most punishing one for dabi as well dabi which would be to have eri rewind his whole being back to just before he immolated himself which would technically be a death sentence to dabi but it would save toya abd with the current family and technological advances in the world he could be guided to become a hero with support items as a means of penance for all his adults mentally ill selfs crimes.

[@miguelperez9906]

@Noob S. Eris power is broken she rewound a quirk erasure and sgevrewound deku destroying his body at an insane rate so in theory it should not be too outlandish for her power to do especially if she stores it for a longer period of time before using it now would it be morally correct probably not.

[@clivedoe9674]

Shoto is a little emo. "Muh parents didn't love meee!" He was their golden child and got all their attention, they were just shit parents. He wasn't ignored and abandoned like all the others.

[@averageyoutubeenjoyer8845]

Rei before: Stop beating up our children. Rei now: Kick Touya's ass.

[@megabuster3940]

The time for neglect has ended and the time for discipline has come

[@logeyperogi1805]

She’s not telling him to beat Touya, she’s telling him to beat Dabi They all killed the personality of Touya and in doing so, gave birth to Dabi, and now, Dabi needs to be stopped, and the only way they can do that is to defeat him, show him that he can’t break their family

[@averageyoutubeenjoyer8845]

@@logeyperogi1805 Chill, I'm just kidding sheesh.

[@FoxHound-ut1hu]

@@logeyperogi1805 /woosh

[@logeyperogi1805]

@@FoxHound-ut1hu oh no I got the joke I just like talking about the subject, it’s an interesting and important subject

[@YungKeal]

his quirk is literally still fire, nothing has changed there. Quirks have always been related to emotions in one way or another.

[@sin4477]

emotions can make them stronger tho

[@YungKeal]

@@sin4477 thats what i was saying.

[@julimarelli2110]

so he bottle up his emotions REALLY good because there's no way this man is emotionless as he seems and still be so powerful every time he uses his quirk 🤔

[@saigay7691]

Well he basically can summon fire that is as strong as if not weaker then endeavors with almost 0 build up, just by thinking

[@julimarelli2110]

@@tekeyia9279 Yep, makes sense. and he obviously lied when he said to Shoto he lost any feeling for anything.

[@yamisukehiro6815]

Dang, I feel for dabi. Wanting to make your parent pround changes you man...

[@_thatonegoat_]

Same

[@raec5426]

The theme of meeting expectations is prevalent. Besides Dabi, it's shown with characters like Deku (living up to All Might's legacy), Shoto (Endeavor's son) Bakugo (his inferiority complex), Endeavor (new number 1 hero), etc.

[@bucketlynx]

I... Can relate Not on that level but tears definitely flowed

[@tomiwasalisu7654]

@@bucketlynx me to

[@Ocs_Galore]

I do want to make my parents proud. I feel like I have to, but I don't know how to do so.

[@elizabethjensen9457]

Villains aren't born but made.

[@kirbypuffydeluxe301]

I think DIO is borned to be one. XD

[@tfcbioshock]

@@kirbypuffydeluxe301 meh, dio could have been a good person if dario didn't kill their mom and abuse him for years

[@sleepy37946]

An underrated comment :)

[@bigtsuna]

Unless ur me

[@koujin4406]

Not entirely true.

[@peonypuffs1522]

I seen a theory that Dabis fire is super cold and that's why his body is purple because when you get Frost bite your body rots and his body is purple and in the manga he was using his fire and someone said wow that's really cold .

[@eebzyx]

woahhh

[@NimzyTV]

Nope, twice only said that it’s hot and his second personality said cold which I see as something that twice just regularly says

[@peonypuffs1522]

@@NimzyTV well in the video it says his fire can change through his emotions so maybe that can affect how cold and warm it is :)

[@ghostdragon5735]

@ShonenAce permafrost methane is cold and hot

[@dragonite7101]

they ment he was really cold like dabi didnt care

[@ms_loli6349]

Who else got goosebumps from that chapter 😣

[@iivaletofthequeen9193]

Me

[@iivaletofthequeen9193]

😣

[@christianmarchelino2085]

Me too

[@Anu32148]

Me

[@nv5116]

I got tears

[@IlyTranq]

All Touya needed was some Fireproof clothing. And maybe some Tungsten He could've been a hero.

[@Koraxus]

I think the burns on him aren't exactly external. He basically cooks/roasts himself.

[@0bstolerance]

The fire comes out of his skin. Him having fireproof clothing would just make things worse.

[@devss4982]

Yeah he needs something like... Coolers. He said that he never really figured out how to tone down the heat without shutting it off entirely. So, coolers and maybe he could have little hidden packets of water maybe within whatever he wears for his hero persona. Basically, it could create steam that could also help staunch the flames before its too late.

[@shaunstorey23]

he needs a cooling system.

[@0bstolerance]

Although I do agree 100% that they could have made something to redirect his flames. Perhaps an support tech that siphons all of his flames onto an opening on the palms of his hands, plus that tech has to have a cooling system.

[@l.n.b245]

I wonder when Natsuo will get a scar Endevor: Scar on his face Shoto: Burn on his face Dabi: Burned-under eyelids Natsuo: IM IN DANGER

[@polkarrty]

Fuyumi doesn't have one!

[@l.n.b245]

@@polkarrty i ment that all the males have scars but Natsuo

[@white-eyesbluedragon1767]

@@l.n.b245 no because only the ones with fire quirks have a scar

[@SpiderBrained]

Dabi Enji Shoto :aww shit here we go again

[@l.n.b245]

@@SpiderBrained fr tho

[@Baylor888]

I hope he will address how Dabi actually survived

[@Anu32148]

Yeah, I think we need another chapter to properly wrap this up with how touya survived and how his "death" affected the family

[@spadeshepard2917]

Watch it be stain

[@madethistocomment727]

@Henry Ludwig those were clones made by Twice, not the real Touya.

[@dariuswilliams7509]

2nd quirk most likely to be revealed...

[@anoa8418]

@Henry Ludwig Twice made clones of Dabi that's his whole quirk

[@pretty2066]

I feel bad for Touya he really deserves better

[@dreamdesk7258]

He DESERVED better, but now he deserves to rot in hell. Don’t get me wrong I love him as a character but y’all gotta stop sympathizing with a psychotic murderer

[@areiya7418]

@JungHoseok Slays yes that is true but he went crazy as a kid and never got proper help so it all just manifested and got 10x worse

[@lemonpie_vanilla]

Yes he does ):

[@mistawhite2899]

@@dreamdesk7258 lol u like him but you want him to be dead tf weird

[@dreamdesk7258]

@@mistawhite2899 I didn’t say I want him to be dead, I said it’s what he deserves. I like him AS A CHARACTER, not as a person. I think he is written beautifully but if he were a real person I would hate his guts.

[@EmJaeDee]

The whole family is messed up but I love it. I'm not gonna blame a child for their trauma, but I will blame an adult for not getting help for it.

[@roger3137]

Imagine how excited/happy he has be to cry, those are the most genuine type of people.

[@indoywawaify]

And those who make them feel bad and stupid on how excited they are, are the worst type of person.

[@swagerdiss]

Todorki family goes from irredeemable to redeemable and back to irredeemable.

[@sorufa888]

They were irredeemable because of their past to redeemable because of their actions now. If they’re irredeemable again because of past actions, then it’s possible to be redeemable in the present

[@DiovoloKujo]

@@sorufa888 if they dont stop dabi themselves there irredeemable if they do they still arent endevor knew his son wanted to be a pro hero hyped him up for yeras just to say nope sorry you cant be a hero and also your a failure haha bye.

[@daniellu1321]

@@DiovoloKujo I mean from what I got Touya seemed like he would always get burned whenever he was training

[@DiovoloKujo]

@@daniellu1321 Thats endeavors fault he hyped up his son touya then crushed him he called all his other kids failures

[@DiovoloKujo]

@@daniellu1321 he knew touyas qurik bruned him but still hyped him up about it then crushed him and hs=is dreams

[@Kintaro426]

In an alternate universe, Todoroki would have a similiar relationship with Touya as Iida with his brother. It's ironic that the only person who could ever understand Dabi is the one that he hates the most

[@isabellanajera]

But I think he hates Endeavor, not Shooto. He wants to kill him to make Endeavor suffer

[@rinakit2538]

I cried while reading, and now I’m crying while watching this. Dabi’s backstory is just so cruel, he was just a kid...

[@lemonpie_vanilla]

I feel you /:

[@rachellecuevasramos8792]

What volume is chapter 301 in?

[@guillermosierracuellar9812]

Rei: you must stop Touya Endeavor: are you telling me to beat up my son Rei: yes but only this time

[@jm8837]

I think Enji and Shoto would somehow fight him but not to the point of killing him but just with the intention of cathing him but Dabi of course wouldn't go down without a fight.

[@adam.bnj_]

@@BL00PE are you dumb or something?

[@Redhoodsgf]

@@BL00PE wronggg

[@-ushanka-7371]

I might be just spitting nonsense, but what if Touya also has an ice quirk that only activates when he's totally emotioless? Since his fire quirk depends so much on his emotions, being such a tempestous child he probably thinks he only has a fire quirk because of the fact that he's always been very emotional. It could also be connected to the fact that Enji is very hot-headed and has a fire quirk, while on the opposite, Rei is/was almost emotionless and has an ice quirk.

[@loriblackangelsnow]

it would also make perfect sense in consideration with the diagnosis he got. his quirk was still developing back then and the doctor was afo´s ally, thus it´s possible that he got a misdiagnosis, either intentionally or by accident.

[@RayRayRay4547]

Maybe that’s why Rei (and possibly Fuyumi) tend to bottle up their emotions. Their quirks become unstable during states of heightened emotions.

[@koukkoufos2000]

I didn’t know that. Not sure if it’s true, I only thought that their freezing quirk only makes their bodies cold and can’t use it to the fullest because they can’t instantly regulate their body temperatures like Shoto same applies to Toya and Endeavor who get too hot and can’t cool down instantly like Shoto

[@fioreolivares1638]

Everyone's quirk is tied to their emotions. Take Himiko for example, she was only able to look and sound like someone until she got pushed into a corner and for her it was basically the strong feeling to live and get back at the ones hurting her that her quirk leveled up to letting her even use the same quirk as the person she wanted to impersonate. Or whenever Deku levels up or unlocks a previous users powers, because of his emotions setting it off. That's why the heroes in training and even the young kids they do show are told or taught to be careful with their quirk because if they let their emotions take over it could hurt those around them or themselves. That's why Aizawa lectured them a lot about being calm in situations.

[@guillermosierracuellar9812]

Me after reading chapter: well Touya is right everything about his dad and mom so Endeavor got obsessed with surpassing All might to the point of neglecting his family and to the point of abusing Shoto and Dabi got obsessed with proving to his dad that he could be a hero to the point that he burnt himself over and over and tried to kill Shoto hey Dabi also heir his father personality

[@Oblivion2808]

Chuck in some commas and full stops. Makes that easier to read.

[@michael09871]

it will probably come out later that Endeavor actually wanted shoto to have his ice help balance the flames after seeing what it did to Dabi.

[@Bookworm51485]

If you pay attention, this was about more than just surpassing All Might. He was also trying to protect his son, but was going about it all wrong

[@annaszuster7594]

I think that at some point Endeavor was soo desperate to surpass All Might becous of Toya. I mean from his point of view what else he could do to stop his son from hurting himself if talking, watching him or prohibitions didn't work?

[@Delixisk1ng]

you cant blame endeavour tho at anything its All mights fault for being perfect.

[@indy4202]

Shoto: *breathes* Touya/Toya: So anyway I started killing

[@All_Glory]

This was a beautiful chapter. Endeavor didn’t realize that Touya had to live with that quirk for the rest of his life, the least he could of done was help him master the basics.

[@bigbossyXD]

Endeavor realize and that's why he told him to look somewhere or hang with friends. He knew his quirk was hurting him but dabi just like endeavor was stubborn and didn't listen

[@All_Glory]

@@bigbossyXD I respectfully disagree because I know he tried to stop toya from being a hero but he couldn’t stop him from use the quirk he was born with. The least he could of done was teach him how to regulate his own quirk.

[@All_Glory]

@Dorel abramov I think endeavor and rei needed the therapy more than toya. It’s not like toya didn’t tell anyone how he felt. His parents (Mostly Endeavor) were the ones who made him feel worthless. He came to endeavor crying telling him how he feels and Endeavor didn’t have the people skills to deal with it. I’m not team toya I just think endeavor and rei socially was a bad match.

[@adrianpamintuan5876]

@@All_Glory true they were some of the worst socializers in this show.

[@JohnDoe______]

This comes from someone in a discord I’m in and I want to know people thoughts on it “So, minor vent about translation (something I don't normally complain about)? Quirk kinda causes a downplaying in how traumatic a Quirkless diagnosis would be. The Japanese word used is actually *Individuality*. It's essentially the equivalent of being told you're not a person.” The reason I put it here because it can also make since to why dabi did all this

[@ninjagirl226]

That kind of sounds more like the RWBY semblances than my understanding of quirks. In RWBY, it's debatable if a semblance molds a person's personality or arises from it (as stated by one of the characters so it's not just fan interpretation). So the calm person has the ability to remove negative emotions. The girl who always runs away makes clones to take the hit for her and so on. The guy who just wants to help his friends can make clones to do multiple tasks for him. The girl who greatly looks up to others can copy fighting styles. In MHA, this isn't so much the case. Shoto isn't bipolar; he's aloof. Bakugo although bad tempered doesn't want to destroy everything. Uraraka isn't an airhead; Mirako just wants to fight and not be a cute bunny aka prey. Now that doesn't mean that their quirks can't shape things -- Momo and her intelligence, Tokoyami being a chunibyo, and Present Mic being a load mouth -- but it's a lot less prevalent than RWBY. Quirks appear a lot more genetic than semblances.

[@JohnDoe______]

@@ninjagirl226 what I’m saying or atleast my friend said is that quirks have become apart of life so much that being quirkless is almost considered not being a normal person dabi realized his whole reason of existing is to surpass all might so if his quirk doesn’t allow him to do that then that’s the equivalent of his life not having meaning which makes since why endeavor wanted to surpass all might so bad if you look at the individuality part instead of the quirk part

[@ninjagirl226]

@@JohnDoe______ Ah. I would still disagree. Quirks in MHA are highly regulated and you basically need a license to use one (unless it's like Ojiro or Hagakure's where the quirk can't be turned off). It's not shown off in the main series but in Vigilante it's clear that the world isn't like One Piece or Marvel or DC where you can use your power whenever you want. To Deku and Touya (and Shigaraki to a lesser extent his was more a family issue) their quirk status was devastating only because of their dreams to be a pro hero. We see a lot of bad quirks in the series (i.e., David Shield, Hatsume, Inko), and they are fine. Yet we see Gentle (and to a lesser extent the Crawler) who have good quirks devastated to not being able to become a pro hero. It's the crushed dreams that are more an issue that the quirk.

[@merymcsusa]

@@ninjagirl226 the mha world is closer to marvel with the whole sokovia accords thing

[@ninjagirl226]

@@merymcsusa Kind of. But the Sokovia Accords only affected heroes working under SHIELD or the Avengers. It gave the government and UN the ability to dictate what emergencies the Avengers could be deployed to. If you were a civilian with superpowers in the MCU it wouldn't regulate what you can do whereas in MHA Uraraka couldn't use her quirk to help her parents construction company without a permit. Now that's not to say that if you showed superpowers the government might try and force someone to sign the accords, but if you refuse to fight for or against them the accords do little.

[@ThePower1000]

His flames growing with emotion makes sense, remember during the forest training arc where Dabi was telling Vlad about the hero society and his flames were randomly showing up on his body

[@bahjabashir2705]

Same thing happens to shoto

[@Light-at-Dawn]

In my opinion, one of the worst things a parent can do to his or her child is trying to force them to carry on their dreams. Basically, the parent is stripping the right to choose you're own path from their child just so they can live the dream that the parents wanted for themselves, and become tools for them to make that dream a reality. But This case is far worse. Touya wanted to live up to his father's exceptions so bad and just wanted him to recognize how great and proud he is to be Endeavor's son. Only to be met by cruel apathy and neglect from his father, who while was worried for his son's sake didn't see how much pain he put his son through by not standing by him and helping him find his place in the world. And the rest of his family weren't there for him as he fell into darkness which will manifest into DABI. Little Touya screaming and begging his father to see his worth to show him he wasn't a mistake just broke my heart... PS: I would like to see how Touya survived and what he went through from his "death" until he joins the League.

[@childesleftsock]

what if..- what if touya’s like a Phoenix- LIKE RISING FROM THE ASHES OR SMTH 👀 that would be so cool- this is not my theory, i just saw it somewhere else

[@Light-at-Dawn]

@@childesleftsock If he is he is a dark Phoenix, Since I don't think he can be redeemed Or even wants to be redeemed.

[@childesleftsock]

@@Light-at-Dawn oh my fuck- a ✨dark phoenix✨ shit thats really cool- although, to me, i think he has a sLiGhTLy higher chance of being redeemed because i’m pretty sure endeavor would stop at nothing to get touya back since i personally think that in endeavor’t thought process; if he gets touya back, then he can redeem himself as a hero AND a father- also, if he does get touya back, then endeavor can prove to touya that he can actually be a good father and not a power hungry hero

[@Light-at-Dawn]

@@childesleftsock maybe so, however Toya has murdered at least 30 innocent people and caused countless more death and destruction, so he will have to be held accountable for that even if he will come back to the side of the heroes

[@childesleftsock]

@@Light-at-Dawn tru tru, but redeemed can also mean emotionally OR mentally, as in they can MAYBE slap some sense into him

[@brendanreich1782]

Dude. It’s amazing just how much Todoroki and his mom have grown. Seeing todoroki stretching his hand out to his father, thats some serious development. And same with endeavor. It’s amazing just how much they have changed since the beginning of the story. I’m really hoping that Horikoshi does really good on dekus current state and situation with one for all.

[@megabuster3940]

We tangentially have Deku to thank for all that

[@Anu32148]

It's like a butterfly effect

[@dreamdesk7258]

Yea deku better become a war hardened bad ass

[@hiddentiger73]

Fuyumi and Natsuo: *were ignorant children* Rei: “We are all equally guilty for what happened to Touya.”

[@sadweeb35]

rei wasn't right when she said that "this is the entire family's fault" shoto did absolutely nothing wrong, he was only a small child, suffering his own fate, yet he is still the one that dabi wants to kill ): poor shoto he's the only one not at fault, but still gets the same treatment edit: by no means am i saying that it's the children's fault. it's on rei and enji, but there was something they could have done. for example maybe if natsuo didn't tell touya to leave him alone (lowkey hinting at him that he's not interested in what touya has to say) maybe things have gotten down a different path. natsuo himself said maybe he could have knocked some sense into him. again, this is NOT the children's fault, they were too young at the time to truly understand what was going on, but they still have more to do with this than shoto

[@Kaytoun]

I'd say it's debateable if Natsuo and Fuyumi should bare any blame either. I mean, they were also kids when all this happened. Older, yes, but still kids. They wouldn't know how to deal with a situation like this or even properly have the skills to. And even if they did, how would they? They're children, they can't get the help Touya needed all on their own. They would have needed their parents for that, and their parents were neglectful at best. Maybe they could have told another adult, but would they have tried to intervene? Endeavor's the #2 hero at this point. They might have felt that they COULDN'T help even if they wanted to. After all, who would believe that the #2 hero was abusive to his family? Ultimately it's Enji and Rei who should be blamed. Rei for not doing anything to try and help Touya, and Enji for making the problem worse by neglecting Touya.

[@Anu32148]

@@Kaytoun yeah, it depends on fuyumi and natsuo though..even though its not necessarily their fault..I think they blame themselves becoz now that he is a villian they feel regretful that why they didnt do more for him, like he was always crying but they didnt pay as much attention. Even I think they shouldn't be blamed, but they will blame themselves anyways becoz of the circumstances

[@raec5426]

*You have to consider the context of Japanese culture (collective view) with taking family responsibility* even if it is not their fault, so while it may not be viewed quite the same as a western perspective (individualistic view), which people can still disagree with, it is a factor in how the situation may be viewed in another way through a cultural lense. We also see the cultural ideals come into play with the arranged marriage and also additional pressure Toya likely had of wanting to gain Endeavor's legacy also as the eldest son as a birth right. We have seen a smaller example of the collective with family responsibility through Gentle Criminal with his family falling apart (due to social/monetary issues) as the result of his rescue attempt (so his family as a whole was blamed and had to take responsibility for his well-intentioned mistake). And this is also why Dabi used Hawks' family history of his father being a criminal to the public as he tries to use that framing of being tied to his father, even if that should not matter as much since they are different individuals.

[@raec5426]

@@wormp2697 Yeah, that's also true too! (why her family was trying to keep her repressed too)

[@ccddtw123]

@@wormp2697 yeah if you go back to chapters where backstory takes place her parents said to public sorry for easing a demon child or something like that

[@ibobcey]

Can't wait for all of this to be animated 🥲

[@kevinvillalobos2475]

Yeah in three or four years😕

[@areiya7418]

@@kevinvillalobos2475 well hopefully it's part of season 6

[@lemonpie_vanilla]

Omgg yess

[@luvy6861]

@@areiya7418 yeah but I doubt that

[@ira4837]

@@areiya7418 that's kinda impossible, the anime is like 2-3 years apart from the manga, most of the content of what we saw in the last season was in like 3 years ago :(

[@jessvisaya3077]

Shoto straight out the womb be like: 🧍 bro I just got here- I don’t know nothing

[@samuel7819]

So Dabi’s flames change colors based on his emotions, it’s almost like when Midoriya loses his cool and uses more power than what he can handle, so quirks are almost like when Goku first went SSJ, they get stronger with its users emotions?

[@randomperson3119]

Quirks are essentially people's "identity" or personality. So it makes sense that emotions can affect quirks

[@dreamdesk7258]

I mean, you also just seem to get stronger the more angry you get in real life so

[@mysyicbarbie]

the angrier the person is, the stronger the quirk gets. but, the quirk will reply back with anger as well. making it powerful than it was and can be difficult to stop it. dabi’s flames changed due to anger and stress, and it also was extremely powerful enough to burn most of his body. midoriya trigged his quirk due to anger. the power was powerful and replied back with anger as well, but it was too strong for him to stop it. if it weren’t for shinso’s quirk, midoriya could’ve accidentally killed people who are around him.

[@goodbye6676]

No his fire changed colors cause of puberty

[@SalmanM190]

horikoshi just doesn't miss when it comes to mha chapters, he really is a writing genius

[@zoarmhirr2964]

Mha is good at everything but amazing at nothing so he’s nowhere near a writing genius.

[@SalmanM190]

@@zoarmhirr2964 thats your personal opinion, apparently the 137 people that liked my comment think otherwise

[@zoarmhirr2964]

@@SalmanM190 He’s not Shakespeare or Edgar Allan Poe who’s writing was remembered for centuries. Torikoshi will be forgotten in just a few years. He will never have the legacy of these writers because he’s just a normal good writer. Not a talented amazing writer who makes you question the meaning of life. Also since you said 137 people shared your opinion, millions of other people share my opinion as well. The majority of the world thinks that I am right.

[@legendaryperson5267]

@@zoarmhirr2964 I disagree with you...what have you achieved? Nothing...whereas this man has created a story that gets support worldwide. Who are you to say that he wouldn't reach the level of legends in the near future? Are you God? No... Are you a professional writer? No... Are you qualified to disqualify someone whose talent is recognized by people around the world? No... So you should just shut up because there is nothing else you can do other than whining like the weak and shallow person that you are... Have a nice day!

[@SalmanM190]

@@zoarmhirr2964 bro are you my english teacher or some shit lmao i wasnt comparing him to shakespear im just saying hes a good writer lmao

[@toolazytothinkofaname1728]

Someone needs to give Touya a hug and tell him that everything is ok

[@1stsaitama343]

The writing and characters development in this chapter is something else by Horikoshi Just WOW, Shoto brought the family together and "he becoming their very own Hero" + little Shoto is badass❄🔥 Next I hope we get to see Shoto's arc after this development he deserves it

[@imkeybored1238]

"SHOTOOO TODOOO" I have no idea why, but your username made me laugh xD

[@1stsaitama343]

@@imkeybored1238 😂😂👍

[@WolfzieBox]

I feel bad for Touya since he was basically stripped away of what he was created to be and He still was looking towards his father with the intention of showing that he still can be a hero and Endeavor trying to stop him and not focusing on him but still concerned about him slightly. But at the same time I don't feel bad for touya since he chose to continue on even with his toxic environment

[@ira4837]

Well you can't expect him for looking for something better when all he knew was a toxic environment, is like when a girl chooses bad guys because they have a tendency to choose someone like their dad, they see it normal even if you tell them it's wrong

[@WolfzieBox]

@@ira4837 True

[@paulgotik]

@@ira4837 again just because you are born in something doesn't mean you can't grow out of it and learn. Alot of people do it. It's not easy but not imposible either. Dabi is a terrible person from a combination of bad enveironment, bad genes (the fact that the quirk is related to emotions) and bad choices.

[@everythingsfine1395]

@@paulgotik Some people.just like to watch the world burns

[@WolfzieBox]

@@BL00PE Thanks for correcting me on his name, I'm just kinda use to seeing his name spelled outside of the manga

[@blueberry5023]

Poor Dabi and his entire family too😭😭😭 I hope Dabi gets happiness and all the love he deserves 🤧♥️

[@_Aqua_Kay]

Me too I hope he maybe gets some mental help and maybe make peace with his dad am family

[@blackdova6252]

I hope so too

[@revydragneel3873]

I just hope he doesn’t die and at least have his family’s support and comfort when he has to spend the rest of his life in jail.

[@melissawilliams1006]

Me too

[@randomcomment8951]

Maybe the tears of flames are what left the specific scars under his eyes

[@ninjagirl226]

It's also probably why he now cries blood. Destroyed his tear ducts.

[@ByeZeroo]

@@ninjagirl226 it is, he already said that when talking to hawks

[@logeyperogi1805]

The flames represented something He cried tears before because he was sad, sad that his father neglected him Then his tears turned to flames, flames of hatred for the father who neglected him, the father who set him on a path then tried to push him to a new path that he’d have to walk alone Now they’re blood, blood for vengeance, he wants to ruin Endeavour, just as Endeavour ruined him

[@ByeZeroo]

@@logeyperogi1805 right on because quirks are based off of emotions

[@amaures0695]

Oh really that’s what u think happened Einstein

[@usnavidelavooga380]

“This man look like a damn fiend. I’m here thinkin he’s about to give Rei a two piece for clapping back” bruh😭💀we don’t give enough credit to Slice Of Otaku he somehow makes this sad story entertaining to talk about

[@EmilyTod]

Honestly Touya has been one of my favourite charecters... honestly the saddest characters I’ve ever seen

[@cvox607]

Ironic how dabi did what he did to break the family...only got it to be the reason they're standing together

[@areiya7418]

i feel like he did it more to break enji's ego and respect from society

[@everythingsfine1395]

Yea touya should atleast kill endeavor and his mom so his revenge can accomplish and die in peace

[@sunnyblossoms4844]

@@everythingsfine1395 personally, I don’t think touya should be the one to kill them, but endeavor should die

[@issy785]

i’m still confused as to what happened to touya after he “died”. All they found was the jaw bone but where was Touya? did he run off? it doesn’t make sense to me

[@Matt-pi4qg]

I’m pretty sure that means that he was burnt to death and the only part of him that remained was his jaw bone

[@issy785]

@@Matt-pi4qg well we know he wasn’t burnt to death

[@solyana6080]

i think his jaw burnt off and that’s why he has skin stitched onto his face and maybe he ran away after that or smth

[@rfound2567]

Probably gonna be explained in the future? Probably someone saved him, and gave him the artificial jawbone replacement and whatnot

[@childesleftsock]

petition for phoenix dabi to be canon

[@sophiamullin8706]

i cry everytime i hear his story all he wanted was to prove himself to his father

[@louisehad]

Not only is Touya's story awesome, and the Todoroki family's evolution captivating, but it also shows how great of a hero Midoriya is. In a way, everything we are seeing in this chapter, the whole family preventing Endeavor from giving up, finally coming together, their deicision to "save Dabi"... It can all be seen as a "butterfly effect" from Midoriya's sacrifice during the tournament arc. Midoriya sacrificed his arms (and his place in the tournament) to save Shoto, or at least wake him up. Shoto then did the work to save himself from his rage, so he could become a true hero, and somebody he wants to be. Thanks to that, he was ready to "accept" (not fully, but still) his father when he became the N°1 hero. They all worked together to bring the family closer. And now, as a family, they're able, for the very first time, to stand together. Of course, it's not perfect, they're all still in a lot of pain... but they're choosing to stick together and help each other. They would have never done that a few months before. And it's only possible because a hero once decided to help the person in front of him. Even if that wasn't the most "sensible" thing to do. Even if he wasn't able to do much.

[@MrDemicio]

His father's obsessiveness and his mother's passiveness is what drove him insane, I don't think he cares if he lives or dies long as he can kill his father that's what matters to him the most.

[@celebrei]

Rei was Endeavor’s enabler, so they’re both guilty

[@grgur1180]

@@celebrei Only thing they are guilty for is neglecting Touya. Touya was unstable to begin cause people don't want to kill their parents for neglecting them. I really don't understand this level of empathy towards Touya when he is clearly in the wrong.

[@julimarelli2110]

@@grgur1180 are you talking about Dabi or Touya? We still dont know what happened since he disappeared in that accident

[@athernandez666]

The guy wants to off his entire family, not just Endeavor.

[@FuraiChi]

@@grgur1180 He wasn't born unstable. His mental state is the product of a neglectful and abusive childhood, with absolutely no one to lead him in the right direction. Also, I think you will find that even in real life, quite a few people have killed their parents for 'neglect.' Neglect can lead to a multitude of things, I wouldn't just sweep it under the rug. Edit: Spelling

[@susanliu1770]

Why didn't Endeavor just straight up tell Toya to work on controlling the temperature of his quirk? Seeing how his flames could turn from red to blue means he had some sort of control over the temperature... He could have had made his flame really cold too...

[@athernandez666]

He burned himself regardless of how intense his fire was. That's why they were trying to convince him of following something other than trying to become s hero. TL;DR: producing fire, burns damages him even if it's just a small flame.

[@jeb5693]

Well guess what? Endeavor never knew that his flames changed color because he fucking abandoned him

[@bonerpants7203]

@@jeb5693 "Dad, come up to the mountains later and watch me continue to blatantly disobey you and burn my body" "Touya, don't you go up to the mountain and blatantly disobey me." *Narrator* : He went to the mountain and burned himself

[@Nfl_fan_12]

No shit thanks for telling me shit I know

[@goodbye6676]

Isn't the change permanent?

[@unknown_chaotic4158]

My hands are currently shaking

[@riglowkun]

Yo wtf, this was actually emotional af. It's been a while

[@firstnamelastname7557]

touya: you took everything away from me shoto: I don't even know who you are

[@satan1854]

You're pfp is making even me uncomfortable

[@firstnamelastname7557]

@@satan1854 ok and- lol

[@satan1854]

@@firstnamelastname7557 killing stalking really did mess me up

[@EdTheCreator]

Lmao i know Shoto is like “this shit ain’t my fault” 🤣🤣🤣

[@brian_Austin27]

Touya and Toga are my favorite in the league of Villains one rejected by their family for wanting approval of his father and the other rejected by society for trying being herself

[@MandatoryFruit]

Dabi, or rather, Touya has been one of my favorite characters in the entire series since "Dabi's dance" in the war arc. But this backstory makes Touya that much better. Touya is the personification of Endeavor's sins, and I can't wait to see a showdown between the Todoroki family.

[@rivur._]

me who hasn’t read the manga and saw this on my recommended: 👁👄💧👁

[@leilanibacon5933]

Same

[@blackdova6252]

Same😭

[@annalorainedeleon5245]

Same 😭😭

[@itz.z3n]

same but here i am😭

[@rodrickheffleyismysoulmate2882]

me too :/

[@raec5426]

*These Todoroki family chapters better connect with the previous Hawks chapter of 299* - which some people thought felt randomly placed at the time (considering the Deku cliffhanger for ch 298), but I see why it was placed then (to show the foils of Hawks' and Dabi's origin - both in an abusive households where they both questioned their existence of what they were good for with one becoming a hero and one becoming a villain) and then you see Hawks and Jeanist show up to be at the hospital for Endeavor to tie that plotline together.

[@Anu32148]

Hawks wanted to ask some questions to endeavor...so I hope we can cut back to the todorokis again..and ofcourse hawks will also play a major part in this situation with endeavor...lets just see how it goes!!

[@johans3164]

I dont think its random at all. Both hawk and dabi story is quite similar. But their path diverge so much that its insane. Dabi and hawk both grow up in a not so stable household but dabi becomes a deranged villain while hawk grow to be a great and chill hero. Its all about circumstances and the choices they made that makes it so interesting. Cant believe my hero become more and more intriguing

[@raec5426]

@@johans3164 I mean some people thought that chapter placement was random to get Hawks backstory then since the last cliffhanger was with Deku, not the content being random.

[@theDIVISON]

I can't get over how quick everyone forgave Endeavor. Like the "cause we are family" reasoning just isn't enough

[@bluenazex1598]

Toya + Zuko both just wanted their fathers love, but Toya took a dark turn and Zuko was able to see the light

[@indiah2716]

I would say toys is more like azula then Zuko

[@speeddevil4040]

@@indiah2716 they may have the same flames but zuko like touya was essentially abandoned by his father.

[@Light-at-Dawn]

Because Zuko had someone to turn to as a guide and a father figure: Uncle Iroh.

[@bluenazex1598]

@@Light-at-Dawn he did have uncle iroh but it still doesn't change the fact that zuko and Toya were basically abandoned by their fathers and just wanted their attention

[@spectraphantom777]

Zuko was a kind child that wanted to be loved. Touya was a gifted child that wanted to be the number 1 hero, much like how Azula was a prodigy. Touya thought that his parents loved Shoto most because he was the successor, while Azula always thought that her mother loved Zuko more than she did her. Azula thought she had to be perfect to receive affection from her father and Touya believed he needed to be the number one hero to get his recognition. The two are similar in many ways.

[@fangirlsruineverything652]

I wish Dabi revealed his identity to Shoto and said “let’s jump our old man”

[@trsamisari]

Endeavor stans: "Omg why do you hate him? You don't understand him!" Endeavor: Literally traumatized his wife, physically and mentally scarred one of his children, isolated his other child and flat out didn't care about the other two

[@thediethrower1803]

Also bought his wife. Which I'm pretty sure is called slavery.

[@mollypatc]

@@thediethrower1803 what do you call arranged marriages then?

[@thediethrower1803]

@@mollypatc Slavery

[@lemonkrisp8970]

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THOSE IN THE BACK!

[@mollypatc]

@@thediethrower1803 ain’t that the damn truth I always hated the idea arranged marriage. Like you could be marrying a serial killer for all you know.

[@sammyslayer8577]

It seems that touya got his mental instability from his father but much worse than endeavor just like his flame quirk. I also think its interesting that both of them are truely caring people but their obsessions completely changed them which is why when endeavor became #1 he went back to being kind but with dabi his obsession has been pushed beyond the point of return

[@wanna-be-thinker2377]

Well, both parents were mentally unstable, Touya inherited both X2. Rei was just the only one of the three to get treatment for her mental disorder (10 years in a mental ward after Touya "died"). Touya also has his father "fiery" temper (also X2), as apparently does (to a much lesser extent) Shoto and Natsuo (although Natsuo - and to a lesser extent Shoto - inherited their mother's ability to stay clam/cool, which is why you really have push hard or wear them down to make them angry while both Enji and Touya would anger very easily).

[@sammyslayer8577]

@@wanna-be-thinker2377 i dont think you can say that touya got his problems from rei because she she was completely fine and only became unstable after touya was already born due to endeavor.dabi does seem to be either extremely calm or a psycho with not much in between so maybe like rei he bottles his emotions until he cant anymore then has an outburst worse than his fathers like when he tried to kill shoto

[@wanna-be-thinker2377]

And with my mentioning of Shoto and Nastuo having to get mentally worn down for them to explode, obviously Endeavor did that exactly that to Shoto a lot as he grew up, and thus the poor kid was mentally exhausted when he entered UA. Of course, Enji has proven he will try a person nerves, family or not. But Rei, Touya and Shoto are the best proof of how he had a bad effect on people's mental state (since his own was bad). Also, its kinda bad when you're thinking both Enji and Touya unintentionally mentally wore each other out to insanity, and wore down the entire immediate family while at it.

[@elishapruette6849]

Im loving the ties that endeavor has in all this and shows how 2 people in almost the same circumstances turned out very different. It doesn't surprise me that hawks and Dabi's backstories were told back to back but also just mirror each other perfectly with Endeavor in a way driving them both in their youth.

[@issy785]

so if his powers are tied to his emotion does that mean he’s always angry and sad? That’s why he’s so powerful?

[@invadermaythe1st]

I imagine now, yes

[@m.o.l.a6812]

Fire is closely linked to anger, Endeavor is a grumpy and temperamental man almost always surrounded by flames, when Shoto gets angry his fire burns more strongly. Dabi was born with the hottest flames and inside he holds a lot of resentment.

[@isabellanajera]

It´s like how Zuko fire worked and he had to learn again to do fire control with new emotions

[@jojowalker6560]

Dam im not even related to Toya and i feel his pain he was so determined to be that guy that hero the symbol for the people and at the young age he couldn't take it anymore and all because his lazy lousy selfish father filled his head to be number1 then pushed him away into the dark cause he was not satisfied with Toya.GOOD CHAPTER DOPE STORYTELLING

[@white0thunderwhite0thunder71]

I feel this is being the easy way out for Endeavor despite the growth the family as a whole has shown. First off, why wasn't the abuse acknowledged in full? We know for a fact that Edgy was physically abusive to Rei and we know it occurred frequently, we know it drove her insane and that this lead to the apparently worsening state of her mind, and we know this lead to her attacking Shoto and being sent to the asylum... but this chapter made it sound like all he ever did was yell at her. I don't like that because it means that either the blow to the readers was softened so people would be more empathetic towards Endeavor and what the writer was trying to convey or the abuse is STILL being glossed over by the family at large and if they want to truly move on from what had happened then they NEED to accept ALL of the abuse and how it affected EVERYONE not just Shoto, Touya, and Rei. Everyone in that family deserves a face in the dirt apology from Edgy and I won't acknowledge him until he does. Secondly, and to me this is the very important part, what happens next for Endeavor and Shoto? I mean, I know what they are planning to do next but I'm talking about AFTER that. If this thing happened in real life Endeavor would've been stripped of his title and had criminal charges made against him, but apparently rules like that don't apply to heroes so I guess. I just want there to be repercussions for something that we all can agree was wrong and horrible do do and needs to be punished for, karma isn't enough of a punishment in my eyes. And as for Shoto how is he gonna justify his purpose in the story save for his family drama? He still has a lot of potential and can still contribute more than that his father is a royal dick who was never put in his place. I just want this the LEAD somewhere for Shoto and not just to the end of his importance in the series.

[@Evauhh]

it’s so strange thinking about how one of the maybe most powerful villains or even characters is the fault of the now number one hero because of his (endeavors) ego. obviously dabi has a bunch of blood on his hands from his own actions, but those actions happened because of a trigger, trigger being endeavor making touya feel like a literal mistake. i hate how bnha has a strange reputation because of the fandom. it’s really (in my opinion) an amazing plot along with beautiful art & animation.

[@CaptainShepard09]

This chapter was really REALLY GOOD! Also, fingers crossed if next chapter will focus on Midoriya. I really need to know if he is in a coma or not.

[@xxstargirlxx3941]

If the next chapter dose foucs on izuku My theory is it might be a great chance that The past users of One for all will contact him Again (Sorry if i spelled something wrong)

[@alicold1119]

What if he is in a coma but his mind is training inside the One For All world

[@DrNiqx]

@@alicold1119 would be dope tho hahaha everyones getting charavter development, awesome!

[@Makkajakka]

I think his coma involves him learning from the OFA's former users, but in the style of Homer's 'Land of Chocolate' fantasy for some weird reason!

[@hellothere10yearsago97]

@Noob S. that would be cool

[@realtruth1448]

So basically if and or when dabi gets a nomu buffed body, he could get a fire resign body+regeneration plus more quirks and he’ll be stronger than allmight, dabi with his fire quirk with a fire resistant body would be capable of defeating allmight already, the villains are going to be a problem, but we all know shoto will be the one to defeat dabi, hopefully dabi gets a nomu buff so we can have shoto surpass allmight before he reaches prime

[@m-1782]

I feel for Touya. I was an eldest kid who got told that I couldn't be given the same attention as my little sister because I was 'unlovable'. And for a while I hated her, loathed her, and poked at all her imperfections if just to prove that their precious princess wasn't as perfect as they thought. But we grew up and my mother began hitting my sister - I couldn't let it slide. I couldn't let them do what they did to me and I shielded her. And it's never stopped since. The thing is, I've had the love and support of so many others in my family to turn me around - he didn't have that. I understand his rage.

[@chikenleg9549]

No cap this has to be one of my favorite MHA chapters. I appreciate how it ended on a more uplifting note than the other chapters 😭 this series never fails to intrigue me