Muslim CONFRONTS Christian About The Bible (Powerful Response!)

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@UberBri
@UberBri 2 күн бұрын
The Koran itself afirms the Bible and the Bible rebukes the Koran.
@raulhernannavarro1903
@raulhernannavarro1903 21 сағат бұрын
and the Koran rebukes the Bible, and so one
@saladass2282
@saladass2282 18 сағат бұрын
it's the islamic dilemma (1) If the Injeel is the New Testament, then the Quran is false (because it affirms a text that contradicts its own teachings). (2) If the Injeel is not the New Testament, then the Quran is false (because it instructs Christians to follow a text they didn't actually possess). (3) Therefore, in either case, the Quran is false.
@nutgoogle7463
@nutgoogle7463 13 сағат бұрын
​​@@saladass2282 also mention how the Quran tells to "let the people of the gospel judge what has been revealed in it" Muslims often say, that its about the injeel, yet if Quran was Allah's revelation wouldnt Allah the all knowing know about "corruption" of the Bible? Why wouldnt he specify that?
@susiq1121
@susiq1121 11 сағат бұрын
All this critique about Muslims yet Christian Nationalists continue to metastisize in the US, especially white America.
@scottsmith3464
@scottsmith3464 9 сағат бұрын
@@raulhernannavarro1903 the Korean says every word of the Bible is true .. read it and watch Sam Shamoun shut down everyone who holds to your fallacy
@Starius65
@Starius65 2 күн бұрын
Muslim: "If God is that bloodthirsty I don't think that's a God I want to believe in" Oh the irony 💀
@shaulkramer7425
@shaulkramer7425 2 күн бұрын
It's truly amazing.
@zeneyep6590
@zeneyep6590 2 күн бұрын
"when you point your finger, remember-- three are pointing back at you.."
@Amos0v5
@Amos0v5 2 күн бұрын
@@Starius65 The truth showing right under his very nose yet doesnt have the wit to see it!
@shaulkramer7425
@shaulkramer7425 2 күн бұрын
@@zeneyep6590 that's why you point with your whole hand :)
@zeneyep6590
@zeneyep6590 2 күн бұрын
@@shaulkramer7425 clever, LOL.
@brianrinaldi1911
@brianrinaldi1911 2 күн бұрын
I got goosebumps when Cliffe said "For God so loved THE WORLD... He loves every single one of us..." That alone does it for me.
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep Күн бұрын
Big difference is no evidence except by God himself can be enough for anyone to give their lives to God truly. All the disciples that saw Jesus was God and do miracles denied him on the cross. It was only after Pentacost with the Holy Spirit who promises to reveal and make real Jesus they then would rather give their lives than deny Jesus and did. Because the Holy Spirit makes Jesus more real than if he stood infront of us in the flesh and raise the dead. Following Jesus is not about blind faith it's a active relationship. Islam is blind faith. Christianity has the only evidence that could ever be enough. Islam has blind faith.
@Dani-sm8jp
@Dani-sm8jp Күн бұрын
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep Amen & Amen
@Wirmennn
@Wirmennn 17 сағат бұрын
Amen bro, I cried because it's true
@himynameisjohnwumsh7631
@himynameisjohnwumsh7631 13 сағат бұрын
The question is “do you love God”?
@kevincomstock9338
@kevincomstock9338 2 күн бұрын
I certainly don't respect Muhammad. Dude was a pdf file.
@MastemaJack
@MastemaJack 13 сағат бұрын
@@kevincomstock9338 plus slave trader and warlord.
@NicooRico
@NicooRico 13 сағат бұрын
Don't forget he also was a pimp and slave master
@requirementsrequired4384
@requirementsrequired4384 8 сағат бұрын
@@kevincomstock9338 I like the new term “PDF file” We clearly know what you meant. Its too funny!🤣💀😭
@JesusDaLawd
@JesusDaLawd 8 сағат бұрын
@@requirementsrequired4384 i mean the censorship online has become hella tyrannical in recent years its insane that i cant even swear without recieving a 24 hour ban
@dark-cn9yq
@dark-cn9yq 7 сағат бұрын
​@@requirementsrequired4384everyone uses it now because KZbin loves deleting things
@peanutpablo9596
@peanutpablo9596 2 күн бұрын
I never understood why Muslims say that the Quran is a literal word of God, when Allah simply told Muhammad, who told his followers, who wrote the Quran. So even the Quran, contrary to what they claim, is also written by man LOL
@theg-men8961
@theg-men8961 2 күн бұрын
Lol yeah so the belief that many don’t know about is the Quran is supposedly written on two tablets in heaven and the angel gabriel gave that to Muhammad so that’s why they say it’s his literal word. It’s a silly claim that has bitten them in the ass lol. They used to get away with saying there’s only one version but there are several different Arabic Qurans depending where you are in the world. Now that we know that, some Muslim apologist are admitting there are differences
@peanutpablo9596
@peanutpablo9596 2 күн бұрын
Exactly, bro. Exactly​@@theg-men8961
@muppetonmeds
@muppetonmeds 2 күн бұрын
That's one good thing about the Bible. If one man wrote it or said it fell from heaven into his hands we might think he was a liar and wrote it himself. However, the fact that it had many writers talking about the same God proves it wasn't just one man's idea of who God is. Take care
@annemurphy9339
@annemurphy9339 2 күн бұрын
The quran has been tweaked and rewritten ad infinitum: the current quran has existed in its current for only 100 years. It’s also had entire chapters go forever missing when they were simply forgotten, when the sole memorizers of entire chapters were killed in internecine warfare, or from being eaten by tame livestock. It also requires an entire library of Hadiths to help it make sense.
@theg-men8961
@theg-men8961 2 күн бұрын
@@annemurphy9339 the tame livestock haha! Breastfeeding men 10 times so they are no longer horny, see the lady as their mother and can then be left alone with her was amazing logic haha! I think Aisha knew how stupid that crap was and blamed her goat hahahaha
@dmfour
@dmfour 2 күн бұрын
If Muslims believe Abraham was a prophet of God, why don't they acknowledge that it was Isaac who was the child of promise, not Ishmael. Why? Because it creates problems for their lineage maybe?
@bornagainspirit
@bornagainspirit 2 күн бұрын
Isac was the son God wanted for sacrifice not Ishmael, muslims believe that Abraham took Ishmael for sacrifice. Islam,they use old testament sections but with important changes. It's satanic lies, really shows the quran 's satanic origins.
@i.hopeinJesus
@i.hopeinJesus 2 күн бұрын
Yes problem for them hugely
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY 2 күн бұрын
Even more a problem for them is they say that Muhammad descended from Ishmael, but their own quran says that prophethood only came through the line of Yaqub and Ishaq (Jacob and Isaac) 😂
@mystery6980
@mystery6980 2 күн бұрын
How do you know Isaac was the child of promise? Oh wait we claim the Old Testament is corrupted so there would be no need to achknowledgr it
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY 2 күн бұрын
@mystery6980 Nobody but you claim the old testament is corrupted. Your quran even says prophethood only came through the line of Jacob and Isaac. So how did your popat Mohammad, descended from Ishmael, become a popat? That's why you have to claim the other book is corrupt cause yours can't even align with the narrative 😆
@John14-6...
@John14-6... 2 күн бұрын
David Wood had a great saying for those Muslim apologists who like to say "Where in the Bible does Jesus say I am God, worship me?" You say back to them "Where in the Quran or the Bible does Jesus say I am only a prophet do not worship me?"
@jaflenbond7854
@jaflenbond7854 2 күн бұрын
What is the worth, value, and importance of ATHEISM and RELIGIONS to human beings? ANSWER - The LIE and false claim that the True and Sovereign GOD doesn't exist and the LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation" are all opposed and against the Biblical authorities, teachings, and commandments of the Creator and Jesus Christ and will definitely bring nothing but dishonor, disgrace, shame, and ETERNAL DEATHS to Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions What is the worth, value, and importance of the BIBLE, the CREATOR, and JESUS CHRIST to human beings? ANSWER - The BIBLE is the "Word of God" and source of the TRUTHS that - 1. Loving, kind, respectful, and submissive persons on earth who love, honor, and obey the Creator as their loving, kind, and merciful GOD and Heavenly Father in their obedience to what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and willingly submit too to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 will definitely bring themselves honor and the Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. 2. The teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the loving, kind, respectful, and submissive Worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects and citizens of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@muxiyadiincumar254
@muxiyadiincumar254 Күн бұрын
Go to chapter 19 of the quran you will find your answer
@youknowtherules5681
@youknowtherules5681 Күн бұрын
​@@muxiyadiincumar254Verse?
@paularrowsmith9980
@paularrowsmith9980 Күн бұрын
​@@muxiyadiincumar254 Not the place I would go to for any genuine answers.
@jasonthomspon7829
@jasonthomspon7829 Күн бұрын
Went to chapter 19. Didn't see where Jesus said that.
@spencerd8504
@spencerd8504 2 күн бұрын
Disagree with Cliffe. Muhammad is not a good prophet or a respectable person. Although I think Cliffe is being polite but still...
@SojiFro_0
@SojiFro_0 2 күн бұрын
Yea he kills me when he says that all the time.
@CustomGamesStudios
@CustomGamesStudios 2 күн бұрын
@@spencerd8504 he’s being polite but I agree with you. Muhammad is evil, point blank period. And even if he says 1 or 2 nice things, the rest of what he said is the embodiment of the antichrist spirit.
@mystery6980
@mystery6980 2 күн бұрын
Evidence ?
@CustomGamesStudios
@CustomGamesStudios 2 күн бұрын
@@mystery6980 tell us the story on how muhammad married his adopted sons wife and Allah banned adoption
@mystery6980
@mystery6980 2 күн бұрын
@@CustomGamesStudiosreference? And how is that immoral?
@jayjaygeez
@jayjaygeez 2 күн бұрын
You can't help but feel bad for them. They're always parroting the same old, weak, and provably false arguments. If they actually took the time to read their own books with an open mind, they'd pretty quickly see it's obviously made up.
@peterhughes8699
@peterhughes8699 2 күн бұрын
@jay - yeah same as Christians do. And you've never read any Islamic books either. Can you even name any?
@RaymondTamez
@RaymondTamez 2 күн бұрын
@@peterhughes8699 quran
@jayjaygeez
@jayjaygeez 2 күн бұрын
@@peterhughes8699 Who even are you? You don't know me or my background.
@newmanhyde
@newmanhyde 2 күн бұрын
@@peterhughes8699 you are right if it's before 911
@BornAgain223
@BornAgain223 2 күн бұрын
without lies, islam dies
@victortarroni
@victortarroni Күн бұрын
I hope everyone is making notes! This is pure gold! Thank you daily dose!
@bowieupland6112
@bowieupland6112 Күн бұрын
Yes, I'm taking notes. That kid "smoked" Cliff.
@victortarroni
@victortarroni Күн бұрын
@@bowieupland6112 cliff literally educated him
@bowieupland6112
@bowieupland6112 Күн бұрын
@@victortarroni It's like watching two people debate whether Middle Earth, or Narnia is real. 😃
@AkbarZeb-p6f
@AkbarZeb-p6f 19 сағат бұрын
@@bowieupland6112 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12: 10 and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 12 in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. You don't even know what's real when you're surrounded by myths in corporate entertainment & propaganda 24/7 & your sky daddies are aliens.
@bowieupland6112
@bowieupland6112 9 сағат бұрын
@@AkbarZeb-p6f Quoting scriptures, that are never fulfilled and never come true, does not give you any authority, it only shows that you have no arguments. Jesus said he would come back before his all his disciples passed away... What happened?
@summerday2791
@summerday2791 2 күн бұрын
Cliffe is so loving and caring. He doesn’t give up on people, or just leave out if frustration.
@F0r3v3rT0m0rr0w
@F0r3v3rT0m0rr0w 2 күн бұрын
its quite a talent considering he gets quite a bit of hate. i wish i had as much patience.
@wesleyfrankenofficial
@wesleyfrankenofficial 2 күн бұрын
The Quran says the old testament is true 😂
@midimusicforever
@midimusicforever 2 күн бұрын
And the new!
@Ace-mw9pm
@Ace-mw9pm Күн бұрын
@@midimusicforever it says the Torah and the Injeel given to Moses and Jesus was true. Not the Manuscripts that they have today because they are not the same.
@DavidJosephBoth
@DavidJosephBoth Күн бұрын
@@Ace-mw9pm this of what you just said. You are literally saying the "word of God" can be corrupted. lol IT says the BOOKS of both Christians and Jews.. "torah is not the entire book". And you lie, because we have copies of it before muhammad was born. Your authorities burned "differing" copies, then later told you WHY!! Because you are gullible and naive!! You don't care what is true about God! Or you'd apply your logic to your own silly book. Memorized by non-prophets, who they acknowledged disgree THEN TOLD you whyyyyyyy.. you do not believe that. Your prophet married a 6 year old child!!!
@thegymnasticsexperience1131
@thegymnasticsexperience1131 22 сағат бұрын
@@Ace-mw9pm yeah except the scripture the Quran knew about when it was written was proven to not be corrupted when the Dead Sea scrolls were found. Quran was established after 600 CE.. so the scriptures the Quran claims to be corrupted would be the scriptures handed down to the time period of 600 CE… EXCEPT… in 1947 the Dead Sea scrolls are found and they are dated back to 800 years prior to the Quran. And the difference between the scripture found in the Dead Sea Scrolls to the Scripture the Quran would be referencing are nearly identical in all areas of significance. So if the scripture was corrupted why wasn’t the corruption shown between when the Dead Sea scrolls were written and the Quran. Additionally there is a place where Muhammad talks the Israelites to use their own Torah to judge their own people. If it’s corrupted why would they use it to judge themselves?
@saladass2282
@saladass2282 18 сағат бұрын
(1) If the Injeel is the New Testament, then the Quran is false (because it affirms a text that contradicts its own teachings). (2) If the Injeel is not the New Testament, then the Quran is false (because it instructs Christians to follow a text they didn't actually possess). (3) Therefore, in either case, the Quran is false.
@grantbartley483
@grantbartley483 2 күн бұрын
There are 30 versions of the Quran in the Arab world. The official one is Hafs, which was made official in 1920.
@sattaurnikki
@sattaurnikki 16 сағат бұрын
And yet they say, there's only one quran. 😂😂😂
@grantbartley483
@grantbartley483 16 сағат бұрын
​@@sattaurnikki Muslims are lied to by their scholars. The fact that they have to to keep their religion going shows that it's fake
@AwesomeActionToys
@AwesomeActionToys 13 сағат бұрын
@@grantbartley483 more than 30 I believe
@grantbartley483
@grantbartley483 10 сағат бұрын
@@AwesomeActionToys Like viruses, new versions of the Quran just keep popping up
@geraldhamilton8896
@geraldhamilton8896 Күн бұрын
Jesus never worshipped a black rock, Abraham didn't worship it either.
@TAZMASTA40
@TAZMASTA40 2 күн бұрын
The Dead Sea scrolls are pretty much all the evidence we need.
@peterhughes8699
@peterhughes8699 2 күн бұрын
Yes agree cos..... the Dead Sea Scrolls are another proven fake
@pabtorre
@pabtorre Күн бұрын
This is so true. All the "serious" arguments about the preservation of the bible stopped in 1948! The we obliterated by physical evidence. It was ver common in academics in the 19th century... Only Muslim clowns make such claims now a days.
@seankenney7756
@seankenney7756 2 күн бұрын
Mormons: The bible has been corrupted, we have this new revelation from Joseph Smith. Muslims: The bible has been corrupted, we have this new revelation from Mohamed.
@sidwhiting665
@sidwhiting665 2 күн бұрын
Same story, different salesman. I take the Bible for what it claims to be, The Word of God. The witness of those who recorded the actions and word of Jesus and the Apostles is compelling: people don't die for something they know to be a lie. The fact that there are multiple witnesses who often challenged one another points to credibility of the core messages of Christianity. By contrast, Muslims die for a book that one man claimed was true, but he never allowed anyone else to question him and there were no other witnesses. One man's dream / nightmare has confused and mislead so many!
@jenndavin
@jenndavin 2 күн бұрын
Well stated. I live among the Mormons. The similarities were the topic of one of my pastor's PhD thesis. Same spirit with the addition of masonic-like rites and accendance theology.
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 2 күн бұрын
@@sidwhiting665 The Bible is not the Word of God.
@murdog5253
@murdog5253 2 күн бұрын
First, Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, aka "Mormons" as you so "respectfully" describe us, believe that the Bible is the word of God. We read it, we quote it, we have sunday school lessons on it etc... But to think that there are no errors in the Bible after so many transcriptions, translations, and versions is intellectual foolery. Which translation is ACTUALLY the infallible word of God? Cause I see many many translations of the same verses, and word choice matters! and they are different. the implications of the different meanings of different words matter! As for your dismissive attack on the Book of Mormon....be careful. You shouldn't limit God. Who were the other sheep Jesus spoke of? Did Jesus Lie when he said he would visit them? Would not those people make records of his visit? Where does it say in the Bible that God would stop talking to His children? Don't try Revelations 22:19...unless you are Catholic...but remember that the Catholics never said the Canon was closed....
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY 2 күн бұрын
@@kos-mos1127 You're an atheist, your statement doesn't even count when you don't believe in a God to begin with.
@joshua2707
@joshua2707 2 күн бұрын
Oh boy, wait until he finds out that *parts of* Ezra, Daniel, Jeremiah and phrases in Genesis were written originally in Aramaic; as well as the biblical Aramaic texts found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the Peshitta used predominantly by Syriac-speaking Christians.
@mathewpt4478
@mathewpt4478 2 күн бұрын
If i am correct the entire old and new testament where written in greek and hebrew only parts of words were written in aramic so this doesnt make any sense second he himself spoke three languages to be exact so whats the issue here plus he is God in human form He can speak any languages
@seeqr9
@seeqr9 2 күн бұрын
Wait until who finds out?
@ErikPehrsson
@ErikPehrsson 2 күн бұрын
@@seeqr9the guy trying to refute Cliff in the video.
@therealong
@therealong 2 күн бұрын
@@seeqr9 The young Muslim guy seems to be the "who", who else? Didn't he even say he was a Christian earlier?
@PauloPereira-jj4jv
@PauloPereira-jj4jv 2 күн бұрын
No. They were written in hebrew, with some partes in aramaic when quoting documents written in aramaic. Because aramaic was the língua franca in those times.
@nancymonahan6361
@nancymonahan6361 2 күн бұрын
Hatun Tash (Speakers Corner regular) collects different versions of the Qur’an from around the world. I think she’s up to 30!
@sattaurnikki
@sattaurnikki 16 сағат бұрын
I think 37 now. ❤
@key5168
@key5168 2 күн бұрын
We know about and have copies of at least 26 different versions of the Qu’ran. He failed in his quest to burn all the variants after choosing which Qu’ran was the “perfect word of Allah.” Muslim scholars know this. This is nothing new to them. They do not speak about it to lay Muslims, ie, ordinary Muslims who have no education on that subject because they believe it would lead many of them to question the authenticity of the Qu’ran and hurt their faith in it and their apologists and Imams. There’s even a KZbin video of a Muslim scholars telling a Muslim apologist not to tell lay Muslims about this issue. Muhammad could neither read nor write, he dictated the verses orally and instructed early followers of his to mark down the revelation on whatever materials were available: tree branches, stones, leather, and bones. Hundreds of his followers had their own versions that they had memorized from what they had written down and heard from each other. Most of these were destroyed during the purification process along with the couple dozen versions from his closest advisers, friends, and those who took up the mantle of being the next leader, when the “perfect Qu’ran” was chosen.” It can be very dangerous to talk about this subject depending on where in the world you live or to what audience you are talking to. There are some very dangerous areas in the U.S. but besides the obvious places like the Middle East, parts of Asia, and Africa, Europe and the U.K. is dangerous as well. Much more dangerous than the U.S. There are “no go” zones for police in the UK, Germany, France, and Scandinavia where Muslims have taken over and created “little Mecca’s” and it gets violent fast if you try to police Muslims in those areas, let alone try to tell the truth about the Qu’ran or preach the gospel there.
@Ace-mw9pm
@Ace-mw9pm Күн бұрын
There aren’t 26 versions of the Quran. There is 7 different recitations of the Quran which are slightly different ways of pronouncing certain words in different regional versions of Arabic, there is nothing lost in translation. Anything else is invalid and has no true standing in the Islamic world.
@WusWrongWitUs
@WusWrongWitUs 2 күн бұрын
There own Islamic sources say Uthman burned the Quran. Sahih Bukhari 4987 (Islams most reputable scholar) "Uthman sent to every providence one copy of what they had copied and ordered that all other manuscripts written in fragments or whole copies be BURNED" This is not from a Christian source but from the hadith which is what instructed Muslims to pray 5 times per day. The Quran does not tell Muslims to pray 5 times, the hadith does. Keep in mind these students arent taught all of what islam teaches but rather their teachers cherry pick what to show them.
@Ace-mw9pm
@Ace-mw9pm Күн бұрын
Quran 4:103 "Surely the Salah at fixed hours (of the day and night) has been enjoined upon the believers". The Quran tells you there are fixed times to pray. At the time of Prophet Muhammad he would have told them exactly how and when to pray. The Hadith shows you exactly how and when to pray long after Muhammad. Because it is not explained how to do it exactly in the Quran. But everything you say in the Salah(prayer) is in the Quran.
@John14-6...
@John14-6... 2 күн бұрын
He says God is that blood thirsty and claims he is a Muslim who read the Quran? I guess he forgot to read Surah 9:5 and Surah 9:29
@Raziel236
@Raziel236 2 күн бұрын
Cliffe is way too easy on Islam.
@iama6834
@iama6834 Күн бұрын
I agree, especially when he says he respects Muhammad. A man who married a child and ra*ped, pillaged, and killed so many people and is responsible for billions of souls going to hell.
@jamonedixon5068
@jamonedixon5068 Күн бұрын
@Raziel236 That's what grace is, very inspiring
@CustomGamesStudios
@CustomGamesStudios 2 күн бұрын
There’s so many issues with Islam I could talk about it all day. But you know a funny one is Elijah is mentioned in the Quran, Elijah means “Yahweh is my God” Allah’s name is not Yahweh nor does he claim that name. Whoopsies!!! 😂
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep Күн бұрын
Story of Abraham and Issac mirrors Jesus too. Son obeying will of the father, carrying wood to be sacrificed on up the hill, God at the end says no I will provide the sacrifice a ram. Jesus is God providing the sacrifice and is called the lamb of God.
@P.Whitestrake
@P.Whitestrake Күн бұрын
Same with Isa. It's taken from the Syriac spelling for Jesus' name, Isho. Since Muhammad often went to Syria when he was young, he must've taken that name & put it in his book. Originally, Jesus' name in Arabic is Yashu. Arab Christians still call Jesus Yashu to this day.
@CustomGamesStudios
@CustomGamesStudios Күн бұрын
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep exactly. It’s every single prophet vs Muhammad. Who are you gonna choose?
@DavidJosephBoth
@DavidJosephBoth 20 сағат бұрын
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep not only that man. Abraham told his servants "you stay here, the lad and I will be BACK!!!!" Meaning he clearly believes God will raise his "only son that he loves" (per the direct word of God) from the dead. Love seeks not it's own, it hopes all things.. etc etc etc... Meaning Abraham wasn't doing it for himself, he was promised IN issac.. that God would raise up a seed and call him in Issac!!! It super mirrors Christ. Issac was spiritually born by the word of God, which both Abraham and Sarah both heard (thus her laughter, then denial proving it was spiritual laughter.. from spiritual hearing!!!) Ishmael was born from the flesh of SARAI (God called him her son like 3 times) when she spoke doubt to abraham and did her own idea of what was right!!! Thus.. all those born of SPIRIT (word of God by grace through faith which is spiritual hearing) vs those born of the flesh who are not eternal and are of the world and under law!!! The other sons in Mashiach's line their parents or the book always points out that GOD himself brought that child forth by his word. KJV 14 And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the Lord it shall be seen. 15 And the angel of the Lord called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time, 16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the Lord, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son: 17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; (Christ was crucified on Calvary, which is the same mountain range, it's the highest point of it). "The Angel of the Lord calling himself "Lord" again, swearing BY himself... - Christ told the Jew plainly before Abraham was "I am" that is the name of the Malak YHVH (THE Angel of the Lord in English).
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep 6 сағат бұрын
@@DavidJosephBoth Reminds me also how the blood of Adam was from no man it was created by the breath of God. So too was the blood of Jesus from the Father not Mary for the bible says his blood is perfect and Mary called Jesus her savior meaning her flesh was corrupt and would have polluted the blood of Jesus. So the blood of Jesus came also by the breath of the Spirit like Adam which is why Jesus is called the second Adam. Jesus came from Mary but not OF Mary he was of the Spirit who put the seed in Mary.
@JamalJosephs
@JamalJosephs 4 сағат бұрын
Wow, that was awesome! Thanks for sharing. I'll be sharing this with others
@Starius65
@Starius65 2 күн бұрын
9:52 I love that they always pivot when they have nothing else to argue against the point.
@peterhughes8699
@peterhughes8699 2 күн бұрын
Yeah exactly the same as Christians do :)
@psyck
@psyck 2 күн бұрын
“Why is it morally okay for someone else to die for my sins?” Must not have read Sahih Muslim 2767 yet.
@GSpotter63
@GSpotter63 Күн бұрын
Because God is doing it.... Are you going to say that God himself is morally corrupt?
@psyck
@psyck Күн бұрын
@@GSpotter63 read Sahih Muslim 2767 and you’ll understand. I’m talking about the hypocrisy of the Muslim guy asking if it’s okay for someone else to die for someone else’s sins. According to the Hadith I mentioned, Jews and Christians will take the punishment for Muslim’s sins.
@GSpotter63
@GSpotter63 Күн бұрын
@@psyck Yes, I'm aware of that passage.. apparently there are a lot of very dedicated Muslims who don't read their own book or hadith.
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY Күн бұрын
@psyck It's also funny if you ask them why all of mankind dies for the sin of Adam, they go blank.
@GSpotter63
@GSpotter63 Күн бұрын
@@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY Excuse me? Have you not committed your own sins? Your argument is fallacious because it's based on your own misunderstandings.
@tuvoca825
@tuvoca825 2 күн бұрын
Obviously he doesn't r3alize the witnesses are multilingual...
@rccpromotions
@rccpromotions 2 күн бұрын
@@tuvoca825 if they spoke to Jesus and then wrote in a different language that means they understand what Jesus said and could write it in another language
@raskeltv8882
@raskeltv8882 Күн бұрын
Jesus doesn’t even speak arabic
@dentonhahn2907
@dentonhahn2907 2 күн бұрын
I like how the guy said "how you going to prove it" as he is talking about history and debating wether the different was burnt. I have found most Muslims only like history when it helps them and deny it when it doesn't.
@peterhughes8699
@peterhughes8699 2 күн бұрын
Yeah no different to Christians and Jews
@metalsabatico
@metalsabatico 2 күн бұрын
It should also be mentioned that even most Arabs themselves don’t speak Quranic Arabic. It’s almost as different from their regional dialects as Italian is from Latin.
@uray7939
@uray7939 Күн бұрын
This channel is such a blessing ....very informative ....praise be to Jesus Christ ....ex Muslim
@dennisrude6155
@dennisrude6155 2 күн бұрын
This young man should read Nabeel Quereshi's book...Seeking Allah Finding Jesus. An excellent book that answers every question
@XJ_4evr
@XJ_4evr 2 күн бұрын
Police 🚔 be on mohamad
@dlove9034
@dlove9034 Күн бұрын
Cliff destroyed those guys. They didn't even know their own history
@krisskross280
@krisskross280 2 күн бұрын
I love Cliffe but at times i wish he would be more honest and direct when it comes to certain things like this i feel he holds back alot cuz he doesn't want to offend the person he's talking to
@ronin36963
@ronin36963 Күн бұрын
He respects Mohammed?!? I don't. That's where I always lose cliffe.
@72REDMAN
@72REDMAN 2 сағат бұрын
I hear you bro, cliff is a lill over the hill. He won't be able to defend himself if he was to say "I do not respect Mohammed". Which no one should!. He would be eaten alive by those blind and uneducated fools.
@Three60Crusader
@Three60Crusader Күн бұрын
Muslims actually think Cliffe got destroyed in this debate which is ludicrous.
@artman6976
@artman6976 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for posting a video like this for others to gain more wisdom. Let's keep praying for our Muslim brothers and Sisters, that they will begin to call on the One True God, Jesus Christ of Nazareth. And that their lives will be changed ❤🙏🏾
@Fathersonandholyspirit-u2d
@Fathersonandholyspirit-u2d Күн бұрын
Cliffe is a gift! I’d love to hear him speak in real life. God bless him always 🙏🏼✝️
@Desman228
@Desman228 2 күн бұрын
What most don't realize is that it's not just about reading the bible it's about believing, faith, then God will showbyou the truth.
@spencerd8504
@spencerd8504 2 күн бұрын
being in a relationship with God means having faith in Him, but having faith in Him doesn't mean you have to suppress your doubts instead put your trust in Him and seek answers. And then He will slowly teach you and take you in for a journey that you will later find fulfilling.
@dmfour
@dmfour 2 күн бұрын
Faith has much to do with reading the bible. "So faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word God". Romans 10:17 The only way we can know God is by what He has revealed about Himself in His words to us.
@EAGANPETERATERUESHITERA
@EAGANPETERATERUESHITERA Күн бұрын
Daily dose of wisdom 🙌
@richardn38
@richardn38 2 күн бұрын
"The Father is greater than I everything I do is through the will of the Father" Jesus was explaining to the Pharisees of how he is not a 2nd god but one with the father as one God
@passionfly1
@passionfly1 3 сағат бұрын
Beautiful video. Thank you!
@paulagreen2680
@paulagreen2680 2 күн бұрын
I praise God for people like Cliff who are willing to stand up and speak truth!
@kilwap147
@kilwap147 2 күн бұрын
I have seen these clips before, and Ithink it is something that is so important to consider. I feel like more Christians should be armed with this information so that we can discuss it with others when they inquire to these things. It also reminds me of Voddie Baucham's sermon from back in the day on "Why I choose to believe the bible." You should definitely do a video reviewing that, Brandon!
@jaflenbond7854
@jaflenbond7854 2 күн бұрын
What is the worth, value, and importance of ATHEISM and RELIGIONS to human beings? ANSWER - The LIE and false claim that the True and Sovereign GOD doesn't exist and the LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation" are all opposed and against the Biblical authorities, teachings, and commandments of the Creator and Jesus Christ and will definitely bring nothing but dishonor, disgrace, shame, and ETERNAL DEATHS to Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions What is the worth, value, and importance of the BIBLE, the CREATOR, and JESUS CHRIST to human beings? ANSWER - The BIBLE is the "Word of God" and source of the TRUTHS that - 1. Loving, kind, respectful, and submissive persons on earth who love, honor, and obey the Creator as their loving, kind, and merciful GOD and Heavenly Father in their obedience to what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and willingly submit too to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 will definitely bring themselves honor and the Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. 2. The teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the loving, kind, respectful, and submissive Worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects and citizens of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@kingmeruem6657
@kingmeruem6657 2 күн бұрын
Also, THERE ARE STILL DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE QURAN. Hafs and Warsh are 2 that come to my mind but there are others.
@markxivlxii1390
@markxivlxii1390 Күн бұрын
Yup, and there are more than 5000 differences between them both.
@jayceerenegado8038
@jayceerenegado8038 2 күн бұрын
Historically, the Arabic language has evolved since the time of Muhammad to modern time.
@thejohn17project15
@thejohn17project15 2 күн бұрын
Also the Quran affirms the Bible is the word of God and nowhere says it has been corrupted. The argument that the Bible has been corrupted basically states that the word of God has been corrupted and God can't make sure His own word is passed down accurately. These are nonsense arguments and the Quran contradicts itself.
@BasedJabłko
@BasedJabłko 2 күн бұрын
We are supposed to judge the Islamic god with what was revealed before, but our scriptures are apparently corrupted according to the Muslims and the originals are no-where to be found. So how are we supposed to judge their god...
@mystery6980
@mystery6980 2 күн бұрын
The Quran never says the word bible once. Give me a reference for your claim
@mystery6980
@mystery6980 2 күн бұрын
@@BasedJabłkothe Quran never makes the claim“to judge the Islamic god by the previous scriptures”
@BasedJabłko
@BasedJabłko 2 күн бұрын
@@mystery6980 5:47 - So let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed in it. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the rebellious. People like myself are supposed to judge the Islamic god as stated. Previous verses and the latter ones talk about Torah/Gospel, using it to confirm new scripture etc.
@mystery6980
@mystery6980 2 күн бұрын
⁠@@BasedJabłkothe next verse 5:48 literally answers your question We have revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ this Book with the truth, as a confirmation of previous Scriptures and a supreme authority on them. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their desires over the truth that has come to you. So you have to use the Quran as a criteriom to see what to follow as to know what Allah truley revealed not other people misattributing gods words
@geoffreyedwards6691
@geoffreyedwards6691 Күн бұрын
An easier way of grasping the differences in the translations, is that each translator (even the different authors) understand and use language differently. One Greek translator could be a native speaker in one city-state speaking a particular dialect with one diction, while another could be from some other city-state with different diction, colloquialisms and dialect. Even a learned slave or other foreigners who speak Greek would represent the translation a little differently. Don't forget also, that Latin was spoken by the Romans of the times, so it wouldn't be a stretch that the Latin influence was there as well. Long story short: The words can change, but the ideas remain eternal and uncorrupted.
@zacharyharwell351
@zacharyharwell351 Күн бұрын
There is a major logical fallacy going on within the first like 4 minutes along the lines of perspective bias: He simultaneously says that the Quran is divinely inspired using Muhammed as its messenger, and then IMMEDIATELY claims the Bible was "written by men." Bro, they were BOTH written by men if you look strictly at the facts. The question becomes whether or not you believe that those writings were divinely inspired or not. Also, I find it HILARIOUS he talks about God being bloodthirsty but worships Allah. The Quran has MULTIPLE passages calling for the execution, persecution, enslavement, grape, and suffering of all non-Muslims, going so far as to imply the very earth itself would assist them in finding and killing them. As a Christian there are some questions we might have about, primarily, Old Testament God's choices, but if the Quran is truly divinely inspired than Allah is one of the most bloodthirsty gods I've heard of.
@theologiemitmichael
@theologiemitmichael 23 сағат бұрын
Hey my friend, I usually dont like christian reaction videos because everyone is giving their personal opinion and experience - you just spit facts, history and reliable sources, I appreciate it! Personal interpretation can change a lot, you keep it as it is (and don't interrupt all the time lol), greetings Michael =)
@zeneyep6590
@zeneyep6590 2 күн бұрын
Wow, his retort to the student who said he believes the Quran because it's in the original language and there for hasn't lost its original meaning was very moving. I first agreed with the student but now I can appreciate all the different translations of the bible without the suspicion I once held for the bible. I'm glad i found this channel especially during these trying times. I want to get right with god once again before it's too late.
@BasedJabłko
@BasedJabłko 2 күн бұрын
It's not in the original language. The Arabic was different and not many know it today (most Muslims don't even know the current one), and vowels and dots were added which weren't part of the original text. Which greatly affected the meaning with the new use of recitations. Where verses can now have many meanings. One verse can both talk about their prophet and god, they can't be both right, meaning some Qurans have been corrupted with new meaning. The 37 Qurans from 1924 which Muslims use today can't also agree whether they should have 114, 115 or 116 Surahs, therefore some have more/less words added than others. Uthman had to burn so many as memorization proved ineffective. The claim that it was preserved word for word and has the original language is baloney. Edit: I know your comment is not in support of it, i just wanted to raise my point.
@zeneyep6590
@zeneyep6590 2 күн бұрын
@@BasedJabłko See this is why I'm grateful for the opportunity to learn and expand my understanding. Both sides are so convinced or dare I say blinded. So I'm grateful for channels like this, it allows people such as myself to go over both sides of the argument and to decide for myself. which I'm trying to do in earnest. I no longer want to be on the side lines (agnostic).
@BasedJabłko
@BasedJabłko 2 күн бұрын
@@zeneyep6590 Good to hear 👍. I got some channels if you're interested ranging from debating to reliability of scripture etc. Including some against Islam with debates and such. - Sam Shamoun. Channels are Shamounian (Official), TheArchive, Towards Jesus and Shamoun Explains. Does debates. - Christian Prince. Does debates. - Testify. Talks about reliability, things against Islam etc. - CIRA International. Wide topics, usually features people like Dr.Jay Smith who talks about the problems with the Quran with topics like i mentioned and others. - Lloyd De Jongh. I haven't delved too deep into this channel yet, but from the feedback I'm guessing it's good, so you must check it out yourself. Talks about history or Islam, or lack thereof sometimes. - TheBlackDoctor. Don't know much about him, but same as the previous guy, heard some things about him too. - Rob Christian. Talks about Islam regarding contradictons or some wild hadiths to put it lightly. - InspiringPhilosophy. Talks about many things. Refutations of Bible contradictons, history, refuting misconceptions etc. - Jai & DoC. Islam and it's community etc. Just a few channels for you're journey.
@BasedJabłko
@BasedJabłko 2 күн бұрын
@@zeneyep6590 Comment was hidden or something. So I'll comment again. Good to hear 👍. I got some channels if you're interested ranging from debating to reliability of scripture etc. Including some against Islam with debates and such. - Sam Shamoun. Channels are Shamounian (Official), TheArchive, Towards Jesus and Shamoun Explains. Does debates. - Christian Prince. Does debates. - Testify. Talks about reliability, things against Islam etc. - CIRA International. Wide topics, usually features people like Dr.Jay Smith who talks about the problems with the Quran with topics like i mentioned and others. - Lloyd De Jongh. I haven't delved too deep into this channel yet, but from the feedback I'm guessing it's good, so you must check it out yourself. Talks about history or Islam, or lack thereof sometimes. - TheBlackDoctor. Don't know much about him, but same as the previous guy, heard some things about him too. - Rob Christian. Talks about Islam regarding contradictons or some wild hadiths to put it lightly. - InspiringPhilosophy. Talks about many things. Refutations of Bible contradictons, history, refuting misconceptions etc. - Jai & DoC. Islam and it's community etc. Just a few channels for you're journey.
@philipmitchener28
@philipmitchener28 2 күн бұрын
Jesus is the way brother. I’m a former atheist. When you put your faith in Jesus, he will lift your burdens when you ask for forgiveness of your sins. When you get baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is given to you, you’ll know how real God is. You don’t have to know all of the answers, that’s what faith is all about. God bless you.
@Bruddatyrelaozi
@Bruddatyrelaozi 20 сағат бұрын
I was just asked today why I'm Christian even though the Bible was corrupted and this video just came out yesterday. God is good!
@jaflenbond7854
@jaflenbond7854 20 сағат бұрын
What is the worth, value, and importance of ATHEISM and RELIGIONS to human beings? ANSWER - The LIE and false claim that the True and Sovereign GOD doesn't exist and the LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation" are all opposed and against the Biblical authorities, teachings, and commandments of the Creator and Jesus Christ and will definitely bring nothing but dishonor, disgrace, shame, and ETERNAL DEATHS to Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions What is the worth, value, and importance of the BIBLE, the CREATOR, and JESUS CHRIST to human beings? ANSWER - The BIBLE is the "Word of God" and source of the TRUTHS that - 1. Loving, kind, respectful, and submissive persons on earth who love, honor, and obey the Creator as their loving, kind, and merciful GOD and Heavenly Father in their obedience to what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and willingly submit too to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 will definitely bring themselves honor and the Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. 2. The teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the loving, kind, respectful, and submissive Worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects and citizens of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@lewcy
@lewcy 2 күн бұрын
I’m so confused. How did the Quran get ink on its pages? Wasn’t the Bible only written because its author’s weren’t illiterate? What makes a written truth less true than a spoken truth? Help me!
@P.Whitestrake
@P.Whitestrake Күн бұрын
The Qur'an was originally just a "revelation" to Muhammad. Then he told his friends & they wrote it for him in several media such as animal skins, papyrus, leaves, etc. That's what I know from Islamic history, but some Muslims often lied that the "revelations" came down in a form of writings. What makes written truth less than spoken truth? Nothing. It all comes down to witness accounts. The Qur'an had no witnesses but Muhammad himself. Meanwhile, The Gospel & the whole Bible was written by people who can read & write with multiple witnesses who spoke different languages.
@lewcy
@lewcy Күн бұрын
@@P.Whitestrake thanks for the help. They made me feel like I didn’t understand logic, but you brought it home for me✌🏽✊🏽
@JamesKellyJohnson5
@JamesKellyJohnson5 2 күн бұрын
Great video, as usually 🙏 The clip you shared at the end w/ the guy speaking on the bible's authenticity: could you please share a link to the full speech?
@m.g.3679
@m.g.3679 2 күн бұрын
It's in the description of the video
@JamesKellyJohnson5
@JamesKellyJohnson5 2 күн бұрын
@@m.g.3679 Thanks. I had checked there originally but didn't see it. 🤷‍♂🙏
@faithfulwarrior7
@faithfulwarrior7 2 күн бұрын
A convert to Islam from Christianity was a person never saved.
@sidwhiting665
@sidwhiting665 2 күн бұрын
Bingo. He may have been brought up in a Christian house, gone to church, sang the songs, attended Sunday school.... may have even been baptized and/or confirmed. But once the Word of God brings you from death to life, as the Scriptures say, you HAVE PASSED from death to life, and the Holy Spirit is given to us as a guarantee. So whenever someone says, "I was a Christian..." I usually stop them right there. No, you thought you were a Christian. Outwardly, you had the appearance, but inwardly, you were never brought from death to life. Now the good news is someone could still be truly converted and brought to life later, so we must never give up and write a person off. And some genuinely converted people suffer doubts and troubles that drive them far away for a time, but the spark of life and faith will remain and God can restore even the most wretched of sinners. I know... because he has restored me many times. It's the parable of the Prodigal Son all over. The son is always a son. God the Father restores him, forgiving even when he is far off. Running to meet him and dress him with clothes of righteousness and to prepare a feast, for the lost is found!
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 2 күн бұрын
@@sidwhiting665 It's curious that atheist make the same argument for people that convert to Christianity from atheism.
@chaparral9842
@chaparral9842 2 күн бұрын
Believe in Jesus and be saved. That simple. There is no sin that can surmount the grace of god provided by Christ’s sacrifice.
@christopheespic
@christopheespic 2 күн бұрын
​@@sidwhiting665no true apostates, huh? Why does it scare you that someone could genuinely believe then change his mind?
@philipmitchener28
@philipmitchener28 2 күн бұрын
It’s not a question of believing, it’s a question of do you have the Holy Spirit? In Acts, Paul baptized two people who were baptized in water with the Holy Spirit. I was an atheist and now I walk with Christ. God is real. His Holy Spirit is real. You put your faith in him at first, but once you receive the Spirit, you receive the relationship with Jesus. It’s more real than anything else you can experience.
@mrchano5452
@mrchano5452 Күн бұрын
Thanks for breaking this down. God bless you brother
@joshuahameline6066
@joshuahameline6066 2 күн бұрын
I hope he gets a million subscribers soon … he deserves it
@newlife960
@newlife960 Күн бұрын
Amen🙏 Bible is most reliable and full of wisdom and Word of God.
@canchadhandlethat872
@canchadhandlethat872 2 күн бұрын
I always fast before exorcisms, I mean exercise….
@ThePa1riot
@ThePa1riot 12 сағат бұрын
I really appreciate that this dialogue is actually quite respectful. It’s quite electric but not heated.
@jakepencil
@jakepencil 2 күн бұрын
How can they actually tell the Quran was from the creator of the universe?
@watermanr7
@watermanr7 48 минут бұрын
Love your channel. Love your content!
@FH-ue5oh
@FH-ue5oh 2 күн бұрын
There isn’t only one version of Quran though…
@WiktorWandachowicz
@WiktorWandachowicz 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, about 30 or more... See for example: 1. Uncovering the Truth About Islam's Historical Sources - Jay Smith kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnmnpYdroq6bhJI (1h 37m) 2. Uncovering the Truth About Mecca's Origins: Debunking Historical Claims - Jay Smith kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGSZZGWdrq6CgdU (1h 4m) 3. Uncovering the Truth About Mecca: Modern Opposition - Jay Smith kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWHXo4V8gM6do6M (1h 9m) 4) Uncovering the Truth About Muhammad's Existence - Jay Smith kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqHanYGKe89lmbs (42:28)
@Riku_addict
@Riku_addict 12 сағат бұрын
Notice how Muhammed never said himself is coming back he said Jesus is the one coming back. Have you ever wondered why?
@perennem_equitem_57
@perennem_equitem_57 2 күн бұрын
As always just a small search in islamic sources debunks what they say. Also the idea of letter for letter dot for dot preservation is a myth. You can find plenty of variants within the quran manuscripts. And yeah, check the hadith collections for other mentions of verses missing or forgotten.
@KB-kx4ym
@KB-kx4ym 8 сағат бұрын
This was a very helpful video and has provided wonderful material to be able to recall when witnessing to Muslims. Thank you!
@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom
@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom 8 сағат бұрын
You’re welcome!
@jmalko9152
@jmalko9152 2 күн бұрын
Always be ready to give an answer to everyone who asks you a reason concerning the hope that is in you, with humility and respect - Peter
@tim4cn759
@tim4cn759 6 сағат бұрын
Thank you for sharing this history with us I super appreciate it
@pohyokelo
@pohyokelo 2 күн бұрын
This man is so amazing. I would not have this amazing knowledge of apologetics.
@geoffreyedwards6691
@geoffreyedwards6691 Күн бұрын
The mistake we often make is that because God is everywhere at all times, he can be in Jesus at the same time He is in us and at the same time be in Heaven. This is the bedrock that makes it possible to be God and speak of the Father at the same time. These young men are obviously not able grasp what God is, as the true people of God were able to grasp Him.
@borgwardd24
@borgwardd24 2 күн бұрын
What's the story with the fish hat? Also, what sort of fish is it?
@atlasfeynman1039
@atlasfeynman1039 Күн бұрын
Pretty sure it's a Northern Pike (Jackfish) and may reference the Jesus fish.
@Nick-gi6hj
@Nick-gi6hj 21 сағат бұрын
Great job Cliffe
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY 2 күн бұрын
Muslims: Cant believe the disciples' testimonies of Christ Also Muslims: Popat Mohammed, 700+ years after Christ - Believe popat Mohammed
@Ace-mw9pm
@Ace-mw9pm Күн бұрын
It’s not the disciples we can’t trust. It’s the anonymous authors of the Bible we can’t trust. Because you do know the disciples did not author the Bible.
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY Күн бұрын
@@Ace-mw9pm You do know that you have absolutely no evidence of 'anonymous authors'. That's as empty as your claim of corruption. None of it can be proven. In fact, you have more of a problem because the 'anonymous authors' testimonies all line up and agree with the same narrative.
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY Күн бұрын
@Ace-mw9pm The 'anonymous authors' all have the same narrative storyline. You have more of a problem because unlike your qurans' anonymous authors and the expected jumbled and broken narrative - , the judeo Christian narrative actually lines up perfectly.
@Ace-mw9pm
@Ace-mw9pm Күн бұрын
@@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY the Quran doesn’t have anonymous writers, you can get all the names and lineage of the ones who wrote it down. And the New Testament don’t all have the same narrative there straight up contradictions in the different books. And the way they talk and explain God, Mathew differs greatly from Paul.
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY 23 сағат бұрын
@Ace-mw9pm Your quran contradicts itself repeatedly, and not a single writer can be found. Don't kid yourself. The entire Bible from beginning to end points to Jesus Christ - Even the 4 gospels agree with the same narrative. That's quite a feat with different anonymous authors - the entire story lines up.
@fatmayo2293
@fatmayo2293 Күн бұрын
Question. My partner has a dark heart lately and have heard her curse God. She is expressing a deep passion for not having faith or honoring the father. Is their any scripture or recommendations I can do to help get through to her? Thank you to anyone who takes the time to read, think or answer this as I am genuinely concerned for her. Bless you all 🙏
@atlasfeynman1039
@atlasfeynman1039 Күн бұрын
Ask her if she loves you or her parents. Then ask her to prove it. Tell her science has proven the existence of God. If any of the great philosophers from history had known what we have learned in these most recent 50 years, they would have concluded the same: The Big Bang proves the universe had a beginning, where ancient skeptics proposed the universe had always existed. Physics and quantum properties show phenomenon like entanglement and electrons within all matter. The Trinity of electron, neutron and proton is an analogy of balance and the Laws of Nature are designed so perfectly that life would not exist without them, and all design suggests a designer, all laws suggest a lawgiver, as all creations suggest a creator. We are the only life in the universe, so far as science can tell, when math concluded that 1/infinity = infinity and there should be an infinite amount of life in the universe, yet the universe seems to exist for our purposes only, for some reason we are meant to ponder. As her what she thinks of crime and morality and whether she feels intrinsically that there is good or evil in actions and why she feels that way if there is no such thing as good or evil? As her whether choice matters or if there is free will if she feels restricted in doing evil and why? Ask her whether love is possible without free will and choice or whether you can demand someone love you or whether love is more valuable if your partner chooses to love you and whether God might want us to freely choose to love for those same reasons? The scriptures are rather unforgiving about people who blaspheme against the holy spirit, but to question is absolutely right. Ask her to question instead of declaring knowledge of something she is ignorant. Has she even read The Book or is she judging it by the cover and does she do that with any other book? If you question her thoughts, you will expose the ignorance, but let love guide you - she is probably unhappy with something else in her life and is venting, so perhaps asking her what she is really mad about is the best way you can help her.
@jatanevtelen4023
@jatanevtelen4023 Күн бұрын
Firstly, pray, pray, pray. Deepen your connection with God even more. Maybe she'll only have to see your relationship with God as an example to get through to her. Then for yourself: I'd suggest reading Matthew 18:15-20 and 2 Cor 12:1-10. I can't think of any verses that would fit the situation exactly right (and get through to her), but Romans 5:8 and John 3:16 are very good go-to verses. I hope that God will help you through this comment. The glory be to God alone. I will keep you in my prayers.
@atlasfeynman1039
@atlasfeynman1039 21 сағат бұрын
I remember putting a lot of thought into replying to this question, but has my post been removed? I certainly didn't say anything inappropriate, but I don't see my reply...?
@fatmayo2293
@fatmayo2293 18 сағат бұрын
@atlasfeynman1039 Hi. I do see this comment from you, no others. I hope it was not removed, after you had spent your time on it. I appreciate the effort and hope it still comes through.
@LittleRedHenNat
@LittleRedHenNat 2 күн бұрын
John 14:6 🤷🏼‍♀️ why do so many Christians not read these words correctly?
@dmfour
@dmfour 2 күн бұрын
I would say it's because they read verses and not the complete thought and context being presented.
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 2 күн бұрын
We do. Stone-kissers simply ignore every verse in the Bible that contradicts Islam. That happens to be 95% of the verses, at least.
@GamerOfEarth
@GamerOfEarth 11 сағат бұрын
🙌 Praise The Lord 🙏 Everyday 🌎
@FreemanPennington-je5tn
@FreemanPennington-je5tn 2 күн бұрын
Nope I don't respect Islam because it's a double book that says killed on non-believers 109 times whereas Jesus said love your enemies and do good to those who hate you and pray for those who persecute you and despitefully use you
@mystery6980
@mystery6980 2 күн бұрын
Give me a reference from the Quran that says to kill innocent non-belivevers. And keep in mind things have context and a lot of the Quran verses were revealed during war where they battled in defence
@mystery6980
@mystery6980 2 күн бұрын
Evidence for your claim?
@atlasfeynman1039
@atlasfeynman1039 Күн бұрын
@@mystery6980 The Quran.
@MamaMia-xn1op
@MamaMia-xn1op Күн бұрын
Cliff is blessed with some serious wisdom and with with a quickness.
@paraglidingtalk
@paraglidingtalk 2 күн бұрын
Jesus died because He let people know He was God. If Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet, they need to believe everything He said.
@LittleRedHenNat
@LittleRedHenNat 2 күн бұрын
John 14:6
@BasedJabłko
@BasedJabłko 2 күн бұрын
They take what they like to hear.
@simplelight1
@simplelight1 2 күн бұрын
I have difficulty believing that people even in that time would kill someone just because someone says he is God. Most likely they would consider him a lunatic and let it be at that or put him in prison for being a nuisance or in an asylum (if there were such things in those times). Surely Jesus will have been put to the cross for more than just that.
@SuperSayianCharizard
@SuperSayianCharizard 2 күн бұрын
@@LittleRedHenNat *the son of God
@davidrw67
@davidrw67 2 күн бұрын
The muslim saying the quran a traditison 😂
@reneburger4317
@reneburger4317 Күн бұрын
Wonderful how religions bring people together.
@chasenuuhiwa
@chasenuuhiwa 2 күн бұрын
6:20 He doesn't even realize his argument is supporting the Bible. SMH
@KevinGeneFeldman
@KevinGeneFeldman 2 күн бұрын
This guy just said he has a lot of respect for mohammed. Are you kidding me? That is outrageous.
@kobi5977
@kobi5977 2 күн бұрын
i got that too. i think he wanted to keep it cute, shouldn’t have said that though. agreed.
@pcdeltalink036
@pcdeltalink036 Күн бұрын
I believe the term you’re looking for is “He wanted to keep it civil.” Cute makes no sense in this context.
@hawaibrahim8984
@hawaibrahim8984 2 күн бұрын
How's the GOD of the Bible bloodthirsty? it was only HIS BLOOD that was shed FOR THE SAKE OF OUR SALVATION! THAT IS THE EPITOME OF LOVE! He didn't want us to suffer, so he took on all of our sufferings. If you can't understand that, then you will never KNOW HIM.
@christopheespic
@christopheespic 2 күн бұрын
Have you ever read the Old Testament? 🙄
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY 2 күн бұрын
Don't worry, they're just upset that Allah did nothing for them 😂
@hawaibrahim8984
@hawaibrahim8984 2 күн бұрын
@@christopheespic get to the point please
@christopheespic
@christopheespic 2 күн бұрын
@@hawaibrahim8984 the god depicted in the OT is clearly tribal, jealous and bloodthirsty
@hawaibrahim8984
@hawaibrahim8984 2 күн бұрын
@@christopheespic I wonder why he did that🤔 if he’s Just, he must have a reason…hm 💭
@raymonddean804
@raymonddean804 6 сағат бұрын
He has NEVER been a Christian. A truly born-again Christian will NEVER leave Christ to serve another god.
@sinclairj7492
@sinclairj7492 2 күн бұрын
You also learned about Jesus from a guy who came 600yrs later and never even met Jesus, also in a language he didn’t speak.
@mystery6980
@mystery6980 2 күн бұрын
Doesn’t matter if the Quran is from god then time doesn’t matter because god doesnt forget
@SourdoughJesusFreak
@SourdoughJesusFreak Күн бұрын
I have a relative who is Muslim and I find it very hard to engage in conversation with her. Because she doesn’t seem to ever want to listen when I give an explanation she immediately just shuts it down or says I’m wrong. And the more I listen to muslims defend their faith I have notice they all seem to have that approach. They are combative, dismissive and sometimes disrespectful. Even the second young man who didn’t believe Cliff on the history of the changing of the Quran just shows they really aren’t willing to listen.
@nancymonahan6361
@nancymonahan6361 13 сағат бұрын
@@SourdoughJesusFreak I also have a Muslim relative. I asked a great apologist - (J Warner Wallace) how to argue the Bible against the Qur’an. His answer was to 1present “God is love” as an equation: God= love. Help them understand the greatness of God described in the Bible 2read thoroughly Seeking Allah Finding Jesus by Nabeel Qureshi, then lovingly give it to relative And pray!🙏
@SourdoughJesusFreak
@SourdoughJesusFreak 13 сағат бұрын
@@nancymonahan6361 thank you!! This helps a lot!
@nancymonahan6361
@nancymonahan6361 12 сағат бұрын
@@SourdoughJesusFreak 🙌 Praying for you and our Muslim relatives!
@cesarmarquez8670
@cesarmarquez8670 25 минут бұрын
Greetings, is there a way you could post the video or the original video of the actual discussion? I got lost (and bit annoyed) by the random interruptions. I couldn’t find it on the notes nor comments. Thank you in advance.
@kapitankapital6580
@kapitankapital6580 2 күн бұрын
I think the Muslim raises a really interesting point at the beginning, and it is a common misconception among both Muslims and atheists. The idea that you can "follow Jesus' teachings" (ie love thy neighbour, turn the other cheek etc) and should therefore be allowed into Heaven is fundamentally a belief that salvation is achieved through works; something every mainstream Christian denomination rejects. It is not enough to "follow Jesus' example" because we, as fallen creatures, will always fall short of the perfection needed for perfect unity with God. It is only through accepting God's forgiveness, freely offered through the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, that we can be washed clean of our sinful nature.
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 2 күн бұрын
BINGO!
@indigofenrir7236
@indigofenrir7236 Күн бұрын
Yes, but faith is professed not only with your lips but with your entire body. The person who believes in Jesus obeys Jesus: faith in Him is proven by action. Word of God => faith => salvation => works. Salvation by works is doing good stuff hoping to get saved; salvation by faith is doing good stuff because you are saved.
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 Күн бұрын
@@indigofenrir7236 , amen. Well-put.
@davidplummer2473
@davidplummer2473 Күн бұрын
"When you preserve it in the original language, no-one can change the meaning through translation." True, but they can change it through re-writing or book burning, etc. Original language is no firewall against changing words or meaning.
@headwalkerranch1929
@headwalkerranch1929 22 сағат бұрын
It brings a tear to my eye because I don’t have the intelligence to understand the word of the gospel. I will continue to be still, be quiet, and wait for what God wants for me.
@jaflenbond7854
@jaflenbond7854 21 сағат бұрын
What is the worth, value, and importance of ATHEISM and RELIGIONS to human beings? ANSWER - The LIE and false claim that the True and Sovereign GOD doesn't exist and the LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation" are all opposed and against the Biblical authorities, teachings, and commandments of the Creator and Jesus Christ and will definitely bring nothing but dishonor, disgrace, shame, and ETERNAL DEATHS to Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions What is the worth, value, and importance of the BIBLE, the CREATOR, and JESUS CHRIST to human beings? ANSWER - The BIBLE is the "Word of God" and source of the TRUTHS that - 1. Loving, kind, respectful, and submissive persons on earth who love, honor, and obey the Creator as their loving, kind, and merciful GOD and Heavenly Father in their obedience to what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and willingly submit too to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 will definitely bring themselves honor and the Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. 2. The teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the loving, kind, respectful, and submissive Worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects and citizens of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@faithburns8379
@faithburns8379 4 сағат бұрын
God bless this man!
@larrycarter3765
@larrycarter3765 16 сағат бұрын
Why argue about two fictional books?
@muslim_itu_tolol_sekali
@muslim_itu_tolol_sekali 16 сағат бұрын
Because MUSLIM always argue their book not fictional in matter of fact their book is come from GOD
@uros2623
@uros2623 Күн бұрын
If muslims really love Jesus that much and claim to worship the same God that Jesus "worshiped", I have two challenges: Do what Jesus commanded his followers, get baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. And go to a mosque and yell "I worship the Father".
@jaflenbond7854
@jaflenbond7854 Күн бұрын
What is the worth, value, and importance of ATHEISM and RELIGIONS to human beings? ANSWER - The LIE and false claim that the True and Sovereign GOD doesn't exist and the LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation" are all opposed and against the Biblical authorities, teachings, and commandments of the Creator and Jesus Christ and will definitely bring nothing but dishonor, disgrace, shame, and ETERNAL DEATHS to Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions What is the worth, value, and importance of the BIBLE, the CREATOR, and JESUS CHRIST to human beings? ANSWER - The BIBLE is the "Word of God" and source of the TRUTHS that - 1. Loving, kind, respectful, and submissive persons on earth who love, honor, and obey the Creator as their loving, kind, and merciful GOD and Heavenly Father in their obedience to what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and willingly submit too to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 will definitely bring themselves honor and the Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. 2. The teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the loving, kind, respectful, and submissive Worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects and citizens of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@stevenwilliams6678
@stevenwilliams6678 2 күн бұрын
Amen!!
@remainhumble6432
@remainhumble6432 Күн бұрын
Appreciate a lot of things you say Cliff. You are absolutely right about the incident with the plane. Mohd wouldn't have gone in himself...
@JRTIGER07
@JRTIGER07 2 күн бұрын
Cliff is so Knowledgeable ❤ Great Preacher ❤
@CaptainPhilosophical
@CaptainPhilosophical Күн бұрын
"Why does it matter what words you choose to study If you always know the One exists?"
@jaflenbond7854
@jaflenbond7854 Күн бұрын
What is the worth, value, and importance of ATHEISM and RELIGIONS to human beings? ANSWER - The LIE and false claim that the True and Sovereign GOD doesn't exist and the LIES and Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "rapture", and "reincarnation" are all opposed and against the Biblical authorities, teachings, and commandments of the Creator and Jesus Christ and will definitely bring nothing but dishonor, disgrace, shame, and ETERNAL DEATHS to Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions What is the worth, value, and importance of the BIBLE, the CREATOR, and JESUS CHRIST to human beings? ANSWER - The BIBLE is the "Word of God" and source of the TRUTHS that - 1. Loving, kind, respectful, and submissive persons on earth who love, honor, and obey the Creator as their loving, kind, and merciful GOD and Heavenly Father in their obedience to what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and willingly submit too to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 will definitely bring themselves honor and the Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. 2. The teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that all the loving, kind, respectful, and submissive Worshippers of the Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects and citizens of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@makersmark1974
@makersmark1974 5 сағат бұрын
A major large corporation has proven that anything man touches or transcribes becomes altered as story telling.. This is a method to keep control of the devide.. ..having people argue about right and wrongs yet forgetting or overlooking the message. _One does not need to claim "I am" correct when respect & admiration comes from the heart of all men aiding one another in a community. To seek whom is right or wrong when all are suppose to live humble goes against the very nature of our collective consciousness. Religions from Faiths to a Creator have lost their way, for congregation to fuel hate is a rule not of God, but of men.._
@DoingItTheHardWayAgain
@DoingItTheHardWayAgain Күн бұрын
Well at least a goat or sheep didn't eat any Bible verses.
@atlasfeynman1039
@atlasfeynman1039 Күн бұрын
The significance of a sheep eating the Quran cannot be understated. Jesus is the shepherd.
@DoingItTheHardWayAgain
@DoingItTheHardWayAgain Күн бұрын
@@atlasfeynman1039 Never thought of it that way! I remember listening to an Arabic speaking native mock that scene "Call CSI to solve the mystery, to find the guilty goat/sheep". It was pure gold!
@optimeg
@optimeg 8 сағат бұрын
I agree with Ehrman Misquoting Jesus in the appendix mentioned near the end of the video. Ehrman clarifies "Bruce Metzger is one of the great scholars of modern times, and I dedicated the book to him because he was both my inspiration for going into textual criticism and the person who trained me in the field. And even though we may disagree on important religious questions-he is a firmly committed Christian and I am not-we are in complete agreement on a number of very important historical and textual questions. If he and I were put in a room and asked to hammer out a consensus statement on what we think the original text of the New Testament probably looked like, there would be very few points of disagreement-maybe one or two dozen places out of many thousands. The position I argue for in Misquoting Jesus does not actually stand at odds with Prof. Metzger's position that the essential Christian beliefs are not affected by textual variants in the manuscript tradition of the New Testament. What he means by that (I think) is that even if one or two passages that are used to argue for a belief have different textual reading, there are still other passages that could be used to argue for the same belief. For the most part, I think that's true. But I was looking at the question from a different angle. My question is not about traditional Christian beliefs, but about how to interpret passages of the Bible. And my point is that if you change what the words say, then you change what the passage means. Most textual variants (Prof. Metzger and I agree on this) have no bearing at all on what a passage means."
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