The Worst Advice On The Internet

[@Scoo]

A stoic isn’t going to worry about losing subscribers. He’s living his brand. Great work.

[@MyWalk3296]

👏👏💯

[@richardfadle5921]

A REAL stoic!!! Yes! But like real Christians or any religion or philosophy people who really practice ir are so rare!!!! The same with people who claim to be patriots!!!

[@S2Cents]

Now that he is rich it is easy to not worry about subscribers or making money.

[@ggbooliano]

@@S2Centsit’s a lot easier to keep chasing money when you’ve got a taste of it

[@S2Cents]

@@ggbooliano good point, many people have shown this

[@AlanPintoTalks]

Many people won’t understand how risky it was for Ryan to make a video like this. Potentially going against 50% of Americans, some that could be in his audience and hurt his business but speaking the truth anyways. Thank you Ryan, gained even more respect for you! Everything you said in this video is 100% accurate and factual.

[@mtgwdefender]

Are you sure about 50%?? 🤔 🤨 Or, even close to 50%??🤔 🤔

[@AlanPintoTalks]

@@mtgwdefender I live in Florida and the cult is literally everywhere, MAGA flags, stickers, hats, I like to talk casually with people in elevators, bars, restaurants wherever and I’d say I meet 3 trump supporters for every 1 Harris supporter. I’m just trying to warn people, we aren’t in the clear yet

[@matthewcaldwell8100]

This isn't a brave principled stance. It's a shot across the bow to people who are competing for the same insecure male demographic.

[@cjmllvv]

Its not that risky. He picked a side and othered another side. It's the safest play in the book. And your format for a KZbin comment is pathetic. How do you live with yourself getting on the internet and composing with that kind of affect.. its so unimpressive

[@freakfiveoh]

I'll be honest, I lost some respect for him. There's plenty to criticize about these individuals, but some of the examples struck me as a lazy excuse to write off someone's message he doesn't agree with. Somehow I have a hard time imagining the stoics he speaks of would think very highly of any of our world or industry leaders. It would be interesting to know the political demographics of Ryan's primary audience.

[@DemothHymside]

I saw "stoic" and was prepared for some pseudo intellectual nonsense, and have no watched 5 videos back to back that feel incredibly genuine and well researched and thought through. Decided to subscribe and hope to see this channel keep growing.

[@drmarctagon]

Ryan is the real deal when it comes to Stoicism.

[@NoctisAquila]

Same!!!

[@a1uplift212]

Ryan is the only legitimate stoic I personally would listen to. He's legit.

[@da.c]

I've been refusing to watch any videos from him that appeared on my recommendations because of that, and I'm glad I finally gave him an opportunity. The word "stoic" has been so widely misrepresented by douchebags that it's hard to take anyone who calls themselves "stoic" seriously.

[@CB-vz8sm]

trust me you won’t regret reading his books

[@wren4077]

Love that the channel is calling out the grift.

[@cuadstar]

Do not the stoics say we are all agrift?

[@willkrueger5484]

This guy is the ultimate grifter. None of his work is original lol

[@cuadstar]

@willkrueger5484 my exact sentiments.

[@MR-LC-808]

@@willkrueger5484 Yes starting to wonder if he has had an original thought . Really bad takes and alot taken out of context

[@narek323]

Unless he was criticizing Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, fat acceptance, 4b feminism, BLM, antifa, affirmative action, gender pronoun laws, toxic femininity, Taylor Swift, and Biden? Or is it anti-grift when it agrees with your worldview?

[@matthewdittrich2976]

I am so glad that the Daily Stoic found its way into my feed. These discussions are some of the most interesting, well thought out and interesting presentations I have heard. So thanks Ryan. I do have a morning routine and it could use some refinement and adding the Daily Stoic to it is part of the evolution.

[@mikeystu]

Agreed.

[@zeus7002]

Found this channel 2 hours ago, I think I’m on video 3 or 4. He puts my beliefs into ways I couldn’t think of

[@Seamus95364]

Thank you for having the stones to make this one. This idea that the cruelty is the point and the rest of the toxic manosphere is influencing our young men in the worst way.

[@c4talin94]

This video is Ryan distancing himself from broicism. Good.

[@Nazy101]

😂😂what do you meannnn?

[@marciogleisson1764]

I'm glad he's going that way, people these days are preaching something that's not stoicism and he's trying to guide us to the right direction.

[@JacobAmoako-e6u]

He is wrong At least on this one .

[@ResevoirGod]

@@JacobAmoako-e6u Feeling insecure about being a bro?

[@kormkor6390]

It's in fact completely up to you whether you let this "distancing" happen: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqqspWqfh9-qbc0

[@Terri_2.0]

You´re still one of the few Stoic men who go out of their way to include women as Stoics, and for that I am always grateful. Much love and respect, Ryan.

[@tacojohns3432]

What are you even talking about?? Are you talking about famous Stoic men? Every single Stoic group or discussion has included women..

[@Terri_2.0]

@@tacojohns3432 Yes, I should have proof-read what I wrote and said that Ryan is one of the few Stoics ´online´ who make a point of including women. There are far too many online who make misogynistic comments and cause division.

[@huntersmith8724]

​@@Terri_2.0 To be fair, I have only recently become interested in stoicism specifically, but your comment made me realize that up until this point I have not heard mention of female Stoics. Reading suggestions would be much appreciated :)

[@hello-gx6oi]

​@@huntersmith8724 Portia Cato is an example And also I met a lovely girl who studies stoicism

[@THELONGHOSEcom]

??? The stoics have always been inclusive....

[@macareuxmoine]

Oh Ryan, you are my new hero. Thank you so so much for standing up for what's right! I know in this time this always goes along with jeopardizing part of your audience. kudos to your bravery. A true stoic indeed 🥰

[@macareuxmoine]

@@cchia6640 😅 just go away.

[@macareuxmoine]

@@cchia6640 you know, lurking around in the vicinity of someone you disagree with and foul mouthing them is probably a very “stoic” thing to do.

[@macareuxmoine]

@@cchia6640 Ego is everything stoicism warns about. Egotism is a pathology that in service of plastering your own name on something disregards the sacrifice of many. Egos destroy what the many build.

[@NifftyMelinoë]

Let's Go: Screw Tradition. This Is How You Stand Up To EVIL Leaders | CLIFF'S EDGE

[@cassianosobrinho]

💯

[@owenconant]

Man, I just want to thank you for having the courage to speak out against bad, popular, people. You're a good man.

[@likesgood]

this

[@wheresallthezombies]

@@owenconant im a liberal. So keep that in mind. how is this courageous? Especially when most people already “speak out against” them.

[@owenconant]

@@wheresallthezombies Many do not - especially with such huge overlap in audience. Many of the lost young men that find their way to Holiday and thereby stoicism have very few options in front of them. These youngsters often find themselves led to dark places by these shysters or are offered meaningless froo froo solutions to help them cope with the things that may be going on in their lives. Holiday presents another choice - a well tested philosophy with a pedigree going back to the ancient world. And quite frankly, for alot of people it wouldn't be brave. It would be part of the status quo. But for someone with an audience like his it's a powerful decision.

[@wheresallthezombies]

@@owenconant I don’t agree with that. We must have very different algorithms.

[@nicholasbolden1965]

It’s courageous bc it’s easier to have everyone like you than to speak out against wrong doing

[@ahmedjguirim7237]

i like your courage , i bet it wasn't easy to upload this one , and thanks for the informative video.

[@markd.9538]

Why wouldn’t it be easy? Going against a groupthink when being true to one’s beliefs is easy. If its hard, you aren’t being true.

[@BryanMorgan]

​@@markd.9538 this just isn't true. Sure it's easy to be yourself from the perspective that you aren't having to be fake. But there are challenges that can stand in the way nonetheless. This is why Marcus Aurelius writes about how he overcomes challenges in his own life. He talks about "holding the reins in your non-dominant hand", he talks about controlling your emotions and ego. He doesn't say people don't have emotions and ego, being your true self, your best self, means having mastery over those things. It takes a level of mastery over one's emotions and ego to avoid audience capture and to speak truth to power.

[@mayfar4961]

Thank you for being so courageous , fair and backing every statement with facts.

[@cchia6640]

Ryan is embarrassing himself. Ego is what built the empire of rome, incompetence and hedonism is what made it fall.

[@jbc22112]

Trashing JP was anything but fair. He’s clearly not informed about Peterson and he made him look like some crazy far right personality. That’s a huge distortion of reality and I completely disagree with your statement about fairness and facts. I have no doubt he actually really believes what he says about JP but he completely reduced him to just one dimensional character and even that one characterization is not correct. He’s not a bully at all, he just speaks the truth. You can’t fight evil forces with being nice, that’s like fighting nature only with your passion, like the case of McCandles.

[@cchia6640]

@@jbc22112 jp has been extremely positive for young men. I completely agree with you.

[@funinthesun90125]

Yeah, Trump had 24 hours of non-stop propaganda and lies thrown at him for the last 10 years. The greatest smare campaign the world has ever seen.. .... and he's still going strong even after all the nonsense. He even got shot and is still going STRONG. So please spare me your brainwashed opinion. You're smarter than that if it actually look past the propaganda and lies, you would know that, but you're caught up in the nonsense as well..

[@BruceLi-p1x]

Nope just another democrat , who lost and is throwing his toys out his pram

[@yungjose3369]

Gained more respect to Ryan for calling those people out.

[@cchia6640]

I unsubscribed. Jordan Peterson has been tremendously helpful for young men. Ryan knows nothing about being a leader, write your books and keep riding the coat tails of robert green and marcus. Ego built the roman empire..

[@cchia6640]

@@CedarSpringWolf i bet your wife also has a boyfriend. Beta move.

[@robertrosas5975]

@@CedarSpringWolfwhy?

[@pulesiwela2485]

​@@cchia6640..Couldn't agree more

[@thejoyofloving444]

@@cchia6640his old works were outstanding, the fame and political influences got to him I think

[@kev7620]

Powerful video Ryan, really shows you prioritise your values over fence sitting and pleasing everyone. It really bothers me that these people started cloaking blatant hate in a faux “free speech movement”

[@cjmllvv]

Blatant hate? Wouldn't blatant hate just be saying "I hate you", and are people suppose to be arrested for that?

[@MellyBelle]

​@@cjmllvv Who is chanting lock him/her up? That's right.

[@akuseru85]

What values? Liberal values? Like abortion? Yes, the stoics would embrace that value for sure.

[@cchia6640]

@@akuseru85 this page is not a good stoic page. He just has a following cus he rode the coat tail of robert green, then went on rogan.

[@09daniscool]

​@@cjmllvvdid ya hurt yourself stretching that far?

[@ghintz2156]

Lol Elon isn't working 100 hours a week...he's shit-tweeting and playing Diablo 4 on high doses of ketamine.

[@yanenn2151]

musk is completely full of shit

[@eternalskeptic]

I heard he was partying with Nick Fuentes and Destiny, because Elon is a man's man... 😏

[@K4ZUY4MISHM4]

You Elon haters are so tiresome. So what if he shitposts and plays diablo? He runs multiple companies and is advancing humanity in immeasurable ways. Detractors make stupid arguments like 'he started off rich', or 'he just hires smart people to do the hard work'. Well so what to either of those if they're trye? There are countless people with money who piss it away and contribute nothing to the world. Elon has the initiative and drive to spearhead innovation across multiple industries, Neuralink, Starlink, SpaceX, xAi, Tesla - these things are literally transformative for the human race. Be glad he's an autist who likes to troll on social media and play video games instead of a nefarious tyrant who hates humanity.

[@minecraftpufferfish9066]

elon is based

[@ghintz2156]

@minecraftpufferfish9066 if you're older than 12 and think this, you probably need to get offline and touch grass.

[@neilo2323]

I stopped listening to Peterson after (sadly) he began having problems with depression despite preaching about how easy it is to beat. Then I started looking more closely at other things he said and realized that much of it was nonsense dressed up with fancy words.

[@EvolvingWisdom1]

Great

[@PedroDoderoEscalante]

100% I used to listen to him ages ago. But then I read between the lines. The world needs more kindness, less JP.

[@georgeblack1733]

His word salads unfortunately mask his lack of substance.

[@markd.9538]

@@georgeblack1733His word salads reveal his obvious abuse of substances.

[@ABenAbides]

Yeah, he's increasingly opposed to basic compassion and empathy for people and it's troubling to hear him insist that these things are bad when they've been the key to our success as a species

[@supersupersomething]

Props for being real Ryan. Respect.

[@ito2789]

In these times, it's incredibly admirable to see you making this type of content amidst all the ignorance, hate and stupidity out there. Keep doing you, my friend and thank you for your continued INTEGRITY AND HONOR when many show their severe lack of.

[@decaalv]

Peterson helped me a lot when I lost my wife. His recent stance on certain topics are completely opposite of my core beliefs. I put him in the bin.

[@Qrr0wned]

Hes had some really intelligent and meaningful takes, it's just unfortunate how he's started to target a very specific red pilled audience now.

[@sirawesomenessi1796]

@@Qrr0wnedI see what you mean. It’s starting to get very repetitive too with what he discusses these days.

[@brandonsanders3095]

“I will never be ashamed of citing a bad author if the line is good” Seneca

[@tacojohns3432]

Full quote of #1 is "Show me someone without an ego, and I'll show you a loser - having a healthy ego, or high opinion of yourself, is a real positive in life!" Ryan is either lying or is too lazy to do a basic google search.

[@nihil.admirari]

Seneca made a point to learn from the rival school of Epicurus, even citing him in his letters. Ryan could not find a good thing about Peterson's work to highlight. It's disappointing.

[@KensleyHomeschool]

@@nihil.admirari Good YT Channel on Seneca Letters: www.youtube.com/@thewisdomofthestoics/videos

[@Ikuya05]

​@@tacojohns3432that is right but trump is still wrong and ryan still argues thag NO ego is good at ALL. If trump means confidence with a healthy ego, he can be right. But I doubt he only meant that, especially when trump is the personification of ego. I quote ,,I'm the chosen one" Quote ,,I have the golden touch And many more of stuff he said, literally stuff that robert greene (ryan holidays former mentor) talked about in the book of the laws of human nature, (which is a collection of over 300 scientific books on psychology and neuro science, a lot of papers, a lot of interviews and a lot of stories from history, packed together in 5 years of hard work put into a book, which then led greene to having a stroke a few weeks after release (showing ryan and greene only more that oversork is dabgerous)) And in this book heliterally talked about these toxic leader types years before trump literally said the exact thing Greene talks about the following toxic leader types kind of myths in a part of a chapter: - I'm destined - i'm the common man/woman - I will deliver you - I rewrite the rules - I have the golden touch - I'm vulnerable (true but part of a toxic myth, deeper explained in the chapter) - i'm chosen

[@Ikuya05]

​@@nihil.admirariwhy to highlight? He made a video about bad advice, not bad people and even less about just peterson

[@kevinhavok6024]

Long time fan, subscribed today. your boldness to pick them out for their BS is much admired my good sir

[@zenotaverna4055]

I love your perspective and your effort! I must say that JP says many things that I needed to hear in a tough time. Personally I really resonated with many of his ideas. I understand he can be ideologically captured by his beliefs sometimes, but he is fundamentally a good man and says things that many young people need to hear and promotes values that are going lost

[@Rex69Rutherford]

Leftists lack openness

[@allanshpeley4284]

@@Rex69Rutherford And rationality.

[@ap23745]

I agree. He has helped me through some tough times and I think if someone actually really listens to him it is easy to see the care and consideration he has.

[@tobyschneider6328]

Agreed

[@3dmagix]

Right, he's off the mark on JP. Calls him a bully and edits in a clip where JP is the one being bullied by the presenter.

[@dolan_plz]

Glad I found this channel. You're down to earth, humble.

[@xact13]

It takes courage to call out powerful people who post bad advice. Thank you.

[@nachisuper]

And it is exactly what a Stoic would do. So kudos to Ryan.

[@cjmllvv]

s 1.7K Add a comment… @cjmllvv 0 seconds ago Jordan peterson is the man @cjmllvv 0 seconds ago You dont understand andrew tates points on depression @owenconant 2 weeks ago Man, I just want to thank you for having the courage to speak out against bad, popular, people. You're a good man. 497 24 Show more replies @c4talin94 2 weeks ago This video is Ryan distancing himself from broicism. Good. 576 19 Show more replies @chaz8987 7 days ago I am a fan of Ryan Holiday. I am a fan of Jordan Peterson. I am not a fan of Ryan Holiday creating a strawman argument about Jordan Peterson's beliefs. 18 2 @mejohn101 5 days ago Why don’t u specify where he has made a “straw man” of petersons beliefs and how u disagree. This is the same type of pseudo intellectual comment u see all over the internet. Back it up! What are u actually saying! Even by using the overused term “straw man”, you are advertising your over exposure to podcast land. Stick to ideas and not just names. Otherwise it sounds like u r just disagreeing with him simply cause he disagrees with your guy. 1 @chaz8987 5 days ago (edited) @mejohn101 The title of the video is "The Worst Advice on The Internet". Ryan shows a quote by JBP and agrees with it even expounding on it. Then goes on to attack JBP saying "When I watch Jordan Peterson repeatedly dead name someone for I don't know what. Shits and giggles? Because he is a bigot? Because he likes the attention?" Oxford dictionary defines a straw man argument as "an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument." Ryan is an incredibly intelligent and talented man. He either is willfully ignorant of JBP's motive or he is intentionally misrepresenting his position. As far as my comment being "pseudo-intellectual". I see how you could see it that way with no context. I assumed that anyone who watched the video would be able to recognize the fallacy. I was/am not obligated to elaborate. I picked up the term "straw man" in a college English class that was focused on arguments. It doesn't matter where the term is picked up, if understood and used correctly. Just pointing that out to show that it wasn't picked up in "podcast land". Even if someone did pick it up from a podcast that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Podcasts can be good or bad, depending on what you listen too. I'm more of a book reader myself. Don't listen to podcasts frequently. I stated in the comment that I am a fan of both. Neither are "my guy". I probably agree with both of them 9 times out of 10, I just don't agree with what Ryan said about JBP in this video. 6 @GringoJacinho 2 weeks ago Jordan petersons psychology videos changed my life 190 27 @Slam_24 2 weeks ago I don't doubt that. He's original lecture series is really quite something valuable, and when he sticks to fundamentals, he is an expert on pyschology. But in the last few years he has broken away from that, and I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that he has lost his mind. 87 @nihil.admirari 2 weeks ago I think Ryan is just following a law of power to select a few "enemies" or plainly niching his stoic advice to the cultural left. Either way, it's too bad, because I hoped his work could be apolitical. Robert Greene at least criticizes everyone, which gives him a more trustworthy work 37 @6mtzhp55 13 days ago Hope you can recover and regain your own personal agency 9 @AudriaOdom-fr2zs 13 days ago Speaking for myself and I think the majority of women who have listened to Jordan Peterson, I must agree with our friend the Daily Stoic, he's a bully who punches down (and, my own impression, is misogynistic); therefore, as far as I'm concerned, whatever advice he might share has no worth to me. I think a real moral philosophy does not impose itself on others, rather it enlightens through example and fair questioning. However, I am happy his advice changed your life, I hope it was for the better. 20 @coreykhaw 13 days ago @Slam_24 I am a listener of Jordan Peterson, may I ask what your are referring to, when you say he has lost his mind? It is possible I missed something, but I find him incredibly positive and good for culture. 13 @ceeemm1901 13 days ago Yeah they made me a basket case too. 2 @1327bulldog 12 days ago ​@nihil.admirari😂 1 @Quandryification 12 days ago Those who are distancing themselves because he's called out certain people in this video speaks more to who you are than his "Left/Liberal" leaning. I have friends on both sides who subscribe to stoicism, and its the same on both sides. Common sense, honesty, self-control, or restraining from being overly emotional (especially when making important decisions). Read more 6 @restlessjuan 12 days ago @coreykhaw everything past his initial views,. his right-winged grift 1 Show more replies @Terri_2.0 2 weeks ago You´re still one of the few Stoic men who go out of their way to include women as Stoics, and for that I am always grateful. Much love and respect, Ryan. 246 5 Show more replies @AlanPintoTalks 4 days ago Many people won’t understand how risky it was for Ryan to make a video like this. Potentially going against 50% of Americans, some that could be in his audience and hurt his business but speaking the truth anyways. Thank you Ryan, gained even more respect for you! Everything you said in this video is 100% accurate and factual. 69 1 @mtgwdefender 10 hours ago Are you sure about 50%?? 🤔 🤨 Or, even close to 50%??🤔 🤔 @cjmllvv 0 seconds ago Its not that risky. He picked a side and othered another side. It's the safest play in the book. And your format for a KZbin comment is pathetic. How do you live with yourself getting on the internet and composing with that kind of affect.. its so unimpressive @angelchavez972 2 weeks ago I think a lot of us have such a visceral reaction to trump because we strive to follow stoicism, and trump embodies every trait we want to leave behind. 135 17 @DamyanLP 2 weeks ago That's why in stoicism, you shouldn't compare yourself. You should only care about your thoughts and your actions since everything else is out of your control. There is no use in getting worked up about things like this. 15 @angelchavez972 2 weeks ago ​@DamyanLP I see that now 3 @militustoica 2 weeks ago More insightful than most of the people here presently show the capacity for. 1 @goatsurgeon 2 weeks ago Epictetus disagrees. @Frank-w5t 2 weeks ago @militustoica posting a video of yourself being heaving judgmental and critical of others is not stoicism. I really couldn’t care less about Ryan being critical of others. It’s actually a bit refreshing realizing that he is a normal man who gets irritated like the rest of us. Not stoicism though. Read more 6 @9y2bgy 2 weeks ago @Frank-w5t I don't know if there is one definitive idea of what is Stoicism. Seneca noted that he didn't want to live by the values put forth centuries before him, and that he wanted to add or detract so that it becomes a living breathing philosophy that can be applied to the ever changing life. I like reading his books because he is actually a good writer. His words are articulate and beautifully expressed. Whether or not he embodies everything he writes about is not for me to judge as I don't believe any person is perfect in anything. I have noticed that he has a lot of videos of himself, but that is simply in passing rather than a bone of contention. Read more 3 @Frank-w5t 2 weeks ago @9y2bgy Solid points and well articulated. I appreciate your response. Some things I disagree but certainly not worth getting into on a KZbin forum. I do appreciate his books as well. 1 @tacojohns3432 2 weeks ago Full quote of #1 is "Show me someone without an ego, and I'll show you a loser - having a healthy ego, or high opinion of yourself, is a real positive in life!" @AlbertoTorres-wl9mt 2 weeks ago @Frank-w5tstoics were famous for criticizing people who were in power but were bad people. Cato criticized and went to war against Julius Caesar… Seneca was sent away by another emperor… maybe you should try to learn a little bit more about stoicism. It takes courage to speak truth to this people. Read more 1 Show more replies @xact13 13 days ago It takes courage to call out powerful people who post bad advice. Thank you. 40 1 @nachisuper 2 days ago And it is exactly what a Stoic would do. So kudos to Ryan. 1 @cjmllvv 0 seconds ago He is breaking a rule and is drawing penalties left right and centre on this video and is unfortunately showing how immature he is. You are not allowed to explicitly disagree with someone unless it is absolutely necessary. In this video he is going out of his way to miss the point of every quote I've seen so far. The point of language is to broaden understanding. To explicitly disagree with someone is explicitly to miss that point

[@martiendejong8857]

Especially when the whole mainstream media is being silent about it and speaking out will get you cancelled..

[@abelzoni2138]

​@@nachisuper a Liberal stoic. Lol

[@mikeyblaze]

Nobody is perfect. Be a student, not a follower

[@cxa011500]

I think the problem with morning routines, is that sometimes people treat them like magic rituals and spend an hour plus on them rather than just diving into the work that needs to get done.

[@beaudroux21]

Agreed. A buddy of mine is mental that way. It makes me laugh. It’s like a disorder. I get up and DO SHIT. He has his mental addictions to focus on.

[@Calivanlivin]

Thanks for your courage! Too many people are not speaking the truth. The truth about what is good for us all and the country. You are a TRUE patriot!

[@cassianosobrinho]

👏

[@TheReadWellPodcast]

Ryan, this was one of the best videos I’ve ever seen. I respected you before, but now I’m a true fan. Mad respect.

[@cjmllvv]

Why? Because he picked a political polarity? Is that really how you are impressed?

[@clarissavaida4058]

@@cjmllvv I think you missed the point of his video.

[@cjmllvv]

@@clarissavaida4058 no I didn't Ryan's point is justshit. He picked a well established side. That is not at all courageous

[@cjmllvv]

@@clarissavaida4058 its telling I disagree with you that I disagree with you. Great analysis Clarissa

[@clarissavaida4058]

@@cjmllvv It’s really not telling as I don’t know you and have no reference for if it matters if you disagree with me. I’m sure Ryan would find some of the people on the left equally egotistical and crazy. So the point that you continue to miss is that his intention is not political, but it’s about someone’s character and because you relate to the right you are offended when you don’t really need to be.

[@da-be-ju]

The argument against psychedelics that they need to be done "over and over again" does not hold water. Did you read Meditations just once and got set up for life? No, you need to return to Stoicism over and over again throughout your life.

[@danteamodeo1061]

Precisely

[@vibrent1]

Exactly. I'm betting he hasn't tried them. They're incredibly medicinal. I did them in my early twenties and they had a positive impact on my life. Now I do them once or twice a year as a reminder and perspective reset.

[@nnnyuy88yhj]

I've seen many videos from Daily Stoic and I must say it's not the first time he completely avoids any research on the topic. There was a video some time ago about some quote but he didn't even understand it himself and totally missed the point and drew incorrect conclusions.

[@badgerskunk2]

@@nnnyuy88yhj He takes himself too serious or he would just try them. Instead of just trying something with for all practical purposes, zero risk, and then offering his opinion on it, instead he will construct some enormously complex philosophy around how he is cool and smart for basically just being a nerd and being too scared to try it. I actually like his channel and most of the stuff he says but his take on this stuff reminds me of Neil deGrasse Tyson views on the subject where it makes you feel like "bruh just admit you are scared to try it or try it don't try to make yourself seem cool because you are just run of the mill afraid to do something that may make you feel a little out of control for a bit"

[@davenovak2106]

Thank you for doing this, man. I really respect you for this.

[@HighPriestess-aq]

I have been following your work from 2015, from the wordpress days. Nothing has helped me discipline my life, and my values- as much as your work has. Humbly, Thank you.

[@BigBunnyLove]

Reading through these comments something occurred to me. I don’t think people realize how programmed they have become. Deprogramming is a big part of the Stoic journey and knowing thyself. There are also classical and modern perspectives on stoicism. The nonstop social stream has really brought so much noise and confusion and terrible advice. Content creators create content for you to consume and for them to make money from mostly. Really look into why they are saying what they are saying. What are they doing and why? Discernment takes time to develop. Anything of value takes hard work to attain. Don’t take the low hanging fruit. Climb the tree maybe.

[@thomaspippin5883]

"For the sake of being cruel" spot on! Haven't seen you in while, and it is refreshing to hear one of my bro influencers not all hyped up like a Trump-fiend. Thank you for being consistent. ❤

[@robertleonhard661]

Also, if “they” come after Ryan, I will be proud and happy to stand beside him

[@isaiahthomas4444]

"They" are no coming after him. He's not important enough or pushing against the grain for that. He's not making serious impact on the world like the ppl he's named💀

[@carlosrivera702]

@@isaiahthomas4444facts, first L take ive seen this guy take. Crazy

[@pharmis]

Great video, thanks for standing up and against this toxic internet culture

[@coreyfinnegan5552]

I agree with the essential point Ryan is making re: psychedelics - they’re not a replacement for hard-won wisdom and should be used with caution. But what they can offer is a brief window into a deeper knowledge, a deeper experience of being. And I believe most people could benefit greatly from having that experience. But I strongly disagree with Ryan’s characterization of most people who use psychedelics as evangelizing for them or needing to do them again and again. I haven’t done psychedelics in years, and I rarely bring them up in conversation. But I’ll be glad to tell you how they’ve changed my life. The dangers of psychedelics are real and should be discussed before using them. But I’m glad I’ve used them. They helped expand my understanding of reality, and break out of a myopic materialist worldview that wasn’t helping me live a good life. They could do a a lot of good for a lot of folks.

[@BigBunnyLove]

Highly concur, well said.

[@yewfh-oz7in]

Completely agree

[@RickRoy117]

I wanna try it,brother, Any advice on what to start with?

[@TimTinhTran]

100%. I Came to the comments lookin for this.

[@2010RSHACKS]

@RickRoy117 Psychedelics can kill your ego but they can also inflate it if you misuse them. I would suggest doing a lot of research and being very mindful of your intentions. Practice meditation before you dose. Plan everything out and take notes before during and after the trip. Do your own research, because psychedelics affect everyone a little differently. I think a good starter psychedelic is 1.5grams of psilocybin mushrooms or 100 micrograms of LSD (a 100ug tab from the street is usually only 60-80ug, which is a safer dose to start with).

[@eyemazed]

Just a point about psychedelics, as someone who has known to dabble in them - you mention people come back from the experience with "interesting" insights, they're actually pretty basic ideas that are also found in religious texts. I'd like to offer you my perspective on this. While the ideas you get on psychedelic journeys are quite simple, the depth to which you can understand and engage with them (even embody them) increases significantly. For example, someone saying "health is important" invokes a compeltely different level of understanding in a sober individual and an individual who has undergone a trip or a meditation on the subject of health. And in my opinion, this is the key. Because it opens up doors of possibilities and connections to that idea that you would have otherwise dismissed or been unable to perceive. This is why psychedelics are so successful in treating addictions. Because you finally understand, on a visceral (and not just intellectual) level why (and just how much) the neurotic pattern you're engaged with actually hurts you

[@terezarasovska8346]

I agree with you but also it is important to note that people should not just randomly take them by themselves without any guidence. I have lot of experience with psychedelics but i would not recommend it to people. It can help a lot but it can also f*ck you up pretty bad. So I think his take is fair

[@eyemazed]

@@terezarasovska8346 i actually agree with you. they're a powerful catalyst for both positive and negative change, so should be considered only as a last resort

[@DeutscherPatrick]

Werner Herzog calls such things "ecstatic truth"

[@eyemazed]

@@DeutscherPatrick in a way, yeah. i just think of it in terms of intellectualizing truth vs emotionally experiencing the truth

[@badgerskunk2]

Someone like him who is very intellectual and Left Brained is going to find this concept you are putting forward difficult to digest I think. Which is ironically why they might benefit from the use.

Wow, massive respect for this video!!

[@woosterchik]

I’m trying to use the Stoic principle of worrying does nothing. When you fear the thing that will happen before it happens, you suffer twice. Let’s hope and have optimism. We can no longer control or stop Trump being inaugurated, so we have to do right where we can and focus on what we can control.

[@jelle2410]

Thank you for speaking up, inside a KZbin community that’s very much saying the opposite. Very brave, and much appreciated!

[@jamessaltlife]

Jordan Peterson should not be in the same conversation as Andrew Tate.

[@mendezviolin]

Your work is such a breath of fresh air, Ryan. Infinite thanks! 🙏

[@ebert8756]

It really is ❤

[@cristinaferrero]

Grazie di cuore per le tue parole, grazie per continuare a portare avanti questa filosofia dove tutto diventa così chiaro e così semplice, se solo ci si ferma ad ascoltare, ma soprattutto ad ascoltare se stessi. Un abbraccio forte da Milano, Italia.❤

[@DeFiSiYT]

Donald is a terrible father, Elon is a terrible father. Let’s hope Andrew Taint isn’t a father and never becomes one. Enough to know right there.

[@MasotaMau]

You nailed it-if it works for you, it works for you. For me, what made a difference was aligning the insights from all the guys you mentioned. I took what resonated, what felt right for me, and used it to become a better version of myself. That growth also allowed me to be better for those around me. I encourage everyone to watch this entire video, even if you don’t agree with everything at first. Stay open-minded, and see what resonates and can help you on your journey. Remember to lift weights and not just run.

Love this format of video, there's a lot of advice out there and it's really interesting to see it through the lens of stoicism!

[@projectbrian]

Ryan fighting that audience capture!

[@Foba_Bett]

Respect for speaking out!

[@angelchavez972]

I think a lot of us have such a visceral reaction to trump because we strive to follow stoicism, and trump embodies every trait we want to leave behind.

[@DamyanLP]

That's why in stoicism, you shouldn't compare yourself. You should only care about your thoughts and your actions since everything else is out of your control. There is no use in getting worked up about things like this.

[@angelchavez972]

​@@DamyanLP I see that now

[@FuckGoogle2]

I don't, I do me and let him continue on his own journey.

[@militustoica]

More insightful than most of the people here presently show the capacity for.

[@goatsurgeon]

Epictetus disagrees.

[@agustinzarate641]

I have listened and read a lot of Dr. Jordan Petersons work. Contrary to Ryan’s claim, I find his work to be very encouraging and uplifting, he encourages people to face life for what it is and take on the world with your head held high . I consider this to be synonymous with a lot of the stoics teaching. I see why you may not agree with the way he handles transgender people and I might agree with Ryan. I don’t agree that he’s just a bully, and I’m frankly disappointed that he feels that way about him because I feel they have a lot in common.

[@allanshpeley4284]

Yeah, he clearly let his political views cloud his judgement. It's really sad that people can't just leave politics out of personal development.

[@agustinzarate641]

@ it is sad, I figured if anyone were to remain objective it would be Ryan

[@tragiceso5121]

I like(d) JBP. However Ryan’s criticism of him seems to be more-so catered to the dynamic of the specific tweet he quoted. Obviously he’s not a bully, or an asshole, he’s a human with ups and downs. In this specific case I agree that he was playing the asshole.

[@jasonkaufmann5890]

Yes, the points in his video have quite cherry picked some nuggets of commentary that Jordan Peterson made, then twisted them into his own narrative and created an encompassing definition of Peterson. Quite the opposite of being "stoic". I'm starting to see that this fella is another grifter of repackaging stoicism in a trendy, edgy (politically motivated) way

[@agustinzarate641]

@@jasonkaufmann5890 In my experience Ryan has avoided expressing his own political opinion, though sometimes it bleeds through via his implications. I don't fault him for this, it would be unnatural for him not to imply his own philosophies. Ryan is great and I will continue to consume his content. I'm more than happy that I found him many years ago. We have to cut him some slack and accept that we will not agree with him on everything. He would do the same for us.

[@mspprofits725]

The sales pitch at 15:50 devalues the video.

[@tiernanseth]

Completely agree, this should’ve been at the end or not at all

[@DFW60]

I think Ryan should actually have conversations with these people.

[@aravindravi156]

Dr. Peterson was never about being an asshole. He is about telling the truth no matter what happens. It's the best thing you will ever do

[@marcusthomsen7012]

But he does not always tell the truth. The man constantly makes baseless claims which is similar to lying.

[@garintj1547]

What's hilarious to me is that Truth and adherence to it. Is a huge principle of stoicism but Ryan completely dismisses truth for the sake of gaining keeping his audience.

[@terrymcdonald7877]

@@garintj1547 just because you like someone, doesn’t mean you have to defend them in every comment section.

[@Zyzzbrah69]

Dr Peterson is full of bs. Dumb man's intellectual.

[@Peytondracco]

I'd submit that about 80% of what he says is false. The other 20% is either plagiarized or meaningless. He just talks a lot, and the Babble Hypothesis explains why so many find him interesting.

[@TaherNagati]

Big REspecT. thank you.

[@yzu_]

This video made me respect Ryan Holiday and made me a fan. This is a statement of authenticity and proof that Ryan abides by the philosophies he promotes. He could easily be like countless other intellectuals of our day and just endlessly pander to their audiences, Ryan has shown here that he is committed to the virtue of truth and will uphold it despite causing some people to turn away.

[@mirceapinzaru4309]

Kudos Ryan 👏. Walking the talk 🙏

[@TheBadMoJoe]

YES Ryan! Thank you so for your bravery exposing these toxic influencers and insane conspiracy theorists.

[@jd8618]

I like psychedelics because it strips the ego away. With all the marketing blasting you everyday you need to be able to strip away from the ego and begin to navigate reality without marketing painting the picture for you

[@marciogleisson1764]

I'm glad you trying to take stoicism back to it's origins. People these days are corrupting the meaning of philosophy for their own gains, and you are making clear what this thing is all about. You can see in the comment section that people who where captured by this twisted minds are furious with this video. I've read a lot of your books, and you always shows good examples. This video is just distancing what a truly stoic should be from bad examples.

[@lilyofthevalley2000]

totally!!

[@MonsterPig007]

It's social media that has melted people's brains. READ books. Read anything and decide for yourself what philosophy works for you.

[@KityKatKiller]

​@@MonsterPig007 Or even watch stuff (that's longer than a 10 minute clip!) There are really really good documentaries out there. There's a difference between switching on FOX News, or whatever KZbin equivalent and watching a multi-hour documentary series about it. Just stop thinking that short-form content can properly educate you on anything.

[@matthewcaldwell8100]

Corrupting the meaning of philosophy for material gain is literally his business model. Stoicism was not a prosperity gospel life-hack. It was a form of mental regimen much more desperate and less optimistic than Holiday's fortune cookie tripe.

[@KityKatKiller]

@@matthewcaldwell8100 Oh great random KZbin user, bless us with your superior knowledge... Ad hominems like that are boring. Try arguements with a bit more substance next time.

[@melanietyler2723]

Thank you so much Ryan ❤

[@justinlewis8889]

This is one of the best videos you’ve made in a while. It’s an important contribution. Thanks Ryan.

[@mommar4858]

I hope even just a few guys find this and it helps them live their true lives, stop sabotaging the good that could happen for them...And stop abusing and blaming everyone else.

[@andreahicks6770]

Yes!! All of this Ryan! ❤

[@allanshpeley4284]

I've been wondering for a while why Ryan comes across as so unhappy and unfulfilled with his life despite all his success. This clears some of that up.

[@PedroDoderoEscalante]

Still one of my favourite authors and mentors. Thank you Ryan. This is Courage.

[@jasonkaufmann5890]

Actually, it's not even close to courage, it's grifting, using "stoicism" for him to promote an agenda (conservatives are bad)

[@CB-vz8sm]

Thank you for the courage, love from Brazil ❤

[@georgestathopoulos6198]

Good video but totally disagree on Jordan Peterson and Psychedelics.

[@jackiesauter2]

Incredibly relatable yet extremely important content in this video. A breath of fresh air in these overwhelmingly chaotic times. Thank you, Ryan!

[@tacojohns3432]

Full quote of #1 is "Show me someone without an ego, and I'll show you a loser - having a healthy ego, or high opinion of yourself, is a real positive in life!" Ryan is either lying or is too lazy to do a basic google search.

[@Kveldrunari]

This video earned my subscription. Looking forward to more.

[@MaryannCn]

Your decision to make this video exemplifies your deep commitment to stoic values. You really are living up to “Courage is Calling: Fortune Favors the Brave.” Bravo! 👏 ❤

[@cjmllvv]

I really don't think the stoics made the point to encourage missing the point of a bunch of political adversaries. And your youtube comment style is sycophantic. It shows youre weak

[@tordjarv3802]

I agree that morning routines are good. However, I think the opposition to them comes from that some absolute nonsensical ones has been promoted by some people on the internet. I’m talking about the “wake up at 4am for an ice-bath followed by one hour of meditation and then run a marathon after drinking a kale smoothie” morning routine. If that’s the morning routine you follow you are going to be exhausted before you have actually done anything. A good morning routine is when you feel energized afterwards and feel like you’re ready for what ever your day has in stock for you.

[@2394098234509]

Gained so much respect for you for making this video. It's actually courageous to speak out this way.

[@Persistence_run_444]

Loved the video, mate! Keep it up! Explaining how these guys’ advice isn’t Stoic, citing actual sources is awesome! So many folks need to see this, especially with the internet being flooded with fake stoics.

Which part of stoicism says you need to be okay with your children being gender transitioned by a school without your knowledge or consent?

[@Persistence_run_444]

He never defended that and also that doesn’t happen. Stop kowtowing to Delusional Donald.

[@Persistence_run_444]

That doesn’t happen…

[@SolitaryRaf]

I wish i could 'like' this more than once, Ryan, holy sh*t!

[@HSE_VO]

Wonderful video. Put beautifully and I think at least SOMEONE will realize how true everything you spoke about here is.

[@tysontomberlin7216]

As I guy who has begun leaning right over the last few years. I love this video. Calling it like it is. Especially the psychedelic part. Thanks for taking the time to put this together.

[@djrychlak4443]

Why on earth would anyone choose values to make you lean right.

[@expensivepink7]

Where do I find people like you in real life omg I feel so sane here 😭

[@dr.kareempize767]

A much appreciated human look at humanity. Incredibly resonating.

[@BroccoliRocks]

People critiqued: Trump, Musk, Tate, Jordon Peterson, Alex Hormozi

[@sliver108]

Not at all political lol

[@jeromepowell8594]

This was a straight ego flex for Ryan holiday , just like when he was shitting his pants during the pandemic then saying he wasn’t scared

[@ResevoirGod]

All individuals who fully deserve to be critiqued.

[@Respect2theFallen]

​@ResevoirGod what's your quarrel with Peterson?

[@IndieTechDude]

@@jeromepowell8594 Isn't the point of stoicism to do what you believe is right despite what they will say. As in, despite people calling it an "ego flex"?

[@Andrew-dg7qm]

I don’t swear by my 8 Sleep mattress. The sensor is broken on my wife’s side and you have to buy a whole new bed. That’s ridiculous. Also, we signed up for the monthly subscription and paid for the year and they won’t let us out of it because one side is broken. Why did I cancel Netflix just so that I could track my vital signs during sleep and now I’m not getting the value for it because they won’t fix one sensor and they want me to spend thousands of dollars on a new Bed. That’s ridiculous

[@homeboysudaka5629]

Good for you RYAN , it needed to be said 💯💪🏾

[@rfora540]

Thank you for drawing these lines and fighting to keep Stoicism from getting associated with these egomaniacs.

[@AngelaAsks]

Attempting not to dismiss Ryan Holiday, as I know I know little about him. Wish he had acknowledged the same regarding Peterson.

[@nateherbison6989]

Thank you for making this.

[@JustinLinnMusic]

So well said. Thank you, Ryan.

[@JuanPabloGomez-cc6vm]

Hello, Ryan. I disagree with the section on Jordan Peterson, and I think the analysis wasn't accurate. I would say that the people who want to put you in jail because you don't want to speak a certain way are the bullies, not the guy who says "hell no."

[@XcallofdutyrulesX]

I agree

[@2394098234509]

Nobody was putting anyone in jail. I'm a Canadian lawyer and am familiar with the law on this. It's a total farce. JBP created that myth to convince people he was fighting a noble fight against tyranny instead of just being an antisocial dick.

[@melodygn]

​@@XcallofdutyrulesX me too.

[@viktor86bt]

Seriously. I’m baffled that a brilliant guy such as Ryan wouldn’t bother to actually hear what Jordan Peterson has to say and jump to conclusions like “for shits and giggles, because he likes the attention, because he’s a bigot?” This tells me that even brilliant people, such as he and Jordan, have irrational blind spots, and you can’t blindly follow anyone.

[@THELONGHOSEcom]

In fact, he has completely lost me here...

[@JohnGilliland]

You are brave and honest and measured. A voice of wisdom for our time. Thanks so much.

[@FeralFoxFilms]

Great video Ryan. I completely agree that ego, should not be running the show. However stoics looked to be as complete with nature as possible. Is our ego not just a natural part of us and if so is it helpful to think there is an 'Enemy" within? (loved that book btw!) I'm genuinely curious to know if it would be more helpful to parent our ego, than try to destroy it?

[@trevordenver9877]

Ive found some good advice by some of the peoplementioned in this video, but Ive also seen how they were flawed which allowed me to never sort of idolize these type of people, just to see how they have some good points and also very bad ones, their strengths and weaknesses, and I feel thats because after I read the meditations, I tried to use the philosophy that inspired it to help guide me in life

[@ronaldjones7655]

This needed to be said. Bravo sir!

[@DaltonGazette]

Thank you brother. You're doing the world a great service. You were of great service to me today. I'm seeing a change already.

[@zer0skillallheart818]

Sorry, Ryan I firmly disagree with you on Jordan Peterson. I think you might benefit from engaging him in debate and conversation. I don't think for a second Jordan Peterson is "doing it for shits and giggles" nor is he a bully.

[@Vidler13]

I think the point is there would be nothing to gain from engaging in debate with JP. He seems disinterested in civil discourse about issues these days, with Ryan specifically referencing intentional dead-naming as an example. As the saying goes: "never debate a fool. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience".

[@zer0skillallheart818]

@Vidler13 Again I totally disagree. Jordan Peterson is still actively participating in debate and conversations & it's not like Richard Dawkins is an intellectual light weight. If we as Stoics are about discovering the truth no matter where it lies. We should be turning over every rock to find it, no matter how ugly or stubborn. It is deeply against Stoic principles to doggedly hold to our judgements about people. Making excuses to avoid pursuing knowledge and wisdom & the chance to be surprised, if some "other" one else proves our initial judgements wrong.

[@SpiritualStuntman]

I absolutely love you for speaking objective truth about these people in your video. Thank you, thank you thank you

[@mejohn101]

I have to reiterate what others have said on this comment section. So many other podcasters and public figures online are unwilling to stand up to the zeitgeist of the right for fear of an attack. I really salute u for Not only doing that but naming names. It is so important not to sidestep or pussyfoot in These consequential times. It’s less about politics than honesty and basic morality. Thank you!

[@pvsk10]

Thank you for taking a stand against the problematic parts of society

[@LooneyTimes]

From someone who felt like they outgrew "stoic" videos a few years ago. You earned my sub. Great video.

[@alwaysnever27]

Favorite video yet. Thank you so much for lending your voice in a way many won’t, Ryan!

[@btm-m1h]

People after reading EGO IS THE ENEMY “I don’t need ego” People after watching BULE LOCK “ All I need is ego”

[@alopezdrums]

Ryan you’re such a gem! 🙏

[@Kwatts08]

These dudes are living rent free in Ryan’s “stoic” head.