Adding fastcharging to a base-model LEAF

[@piaskownica7648]

"work smart not hard" this is my life motto

[@robenglish416]

Perkelä, you’re the king! Didn’t understand half of it! You’re doing great work for second hand market and affordable EV’s!

[@DalasEVRepair]

Trying my best :) Thanks!

[@Nicholas-f5]

@@DalasEVRepair Really great to extend their life and to reduce e waste too! 👏🏼⚡🙂

[@fastbike9845]

I really appreciate the effort you go to, documenting/filming/editing the work you do these amazing cars. And appreciate even more having them in english (sorry I am a monolinguist) so we can follow along. Many thanks

[@forester32]

Amazing work and I'm guessing a happy customer too, love watching your videos keep them coming please.

[@GlynHudson]

Wow, nice work! I looked into doing this job myself on an e-NV200, I decided against it since I seemed like it would be difficult. I'm now glad of this decision! It's even more difficult on the env200 since the non Chademo version doesn't have any battery cooling which ideally would need to be added to be able to rapid charge safely.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Fully agree!

[@Nicholas-f5]

None of them have active battery cooling but the conversation process would likely be the same.

[@phonie]

@@Nicholas-f5 there are some Type NV200 24 kWh with active cooling via the AirCo (Splitting) special the Transport eNV200 Version…!

[@GlynHudson]

@@Nicholas-f5 all env200s with rapid charging have active cooling with A/C refrigerant lines and a heat exchanger

[@DaleKlein]

Nice job Dala. No challenge too big for you! Glad you could make a customer happy and have fun doing it.

[@Bottleworksnet]

Good job! I have had that thread bookmarked for sometime. I've been considering doing the retrofit in the future. The biggest challenge here is finding the parts and that CCS is much more common... If there is a method to adapt Chademo to CCS, then that would be extra amazing!

[@DalasEVRepair]

CCS solutions are coming. Only a matter of time :)

[@roodick85]

@@DalasEVRepair I can't wait...nearly half of the chaedemo chargers here in Houston are faulty 😭

[@ps7549]

@@DalasEVRepairEVs Enhanced in New Zealand does this now right? Did they start doing this more recently than 2 years ago / when you posted this upgrade video?

[@PaulLemars01]

Thanks for the video Dala, I hope you 'charged' the customer appropriately. I'm about to buy a second hand Leaf and you have illustrated exactly why buying one without fast charging is such a bad idea.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Good luck with the purchase!

[@paulkennett]

What a mission! Well done.

[@DalasEVRepair]

I'm sure glad it is over (and worked! :D)

[@peteroffpist1621]

Thanks for showing. Chademo is soon dead and combo CCS is the EU standard and in the US soon the NACS Tesla will be the standard.

[@gelisob]

Well, looks like it doesnt require special software or reprogramming of the car, so it's doable for more handy DIY person as a hobby project! :) I'm guessing the most expensive component was the 3.6kw inverter with QC? I'm also quessing prices of those can vary a lot, depending on what your scrapyard thinks of it.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Yeah nothing special needed for PDM. Prices vary between 300-1500€ depending on scrapyard :D

[@heinzruffieux5817]

What a phantastic job! Highly professional. Thank you very much!

[@roodick85]

I only wish this was possible with a CCS charger but great content!

[@dorhocyn3]

I now have a greater application of my chadmo port that I never use on my 2011 and 2012 ‘s

[@Nicholas-f5]

It is handy in some cities, Austin had free Chademo for many years. You could likely trade your car for one without.

[@PlanetCypher_]

Great job Dala 👍

[@kaikniivila5304]

Good job Dala!

[@DalasEVRepair]

Kiitos!

[@groepi1972]

Great. Maybe in the Future there is a possibilty for CCS as well.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Sure is ;)

[@groepi1972]

and what did you think is needed to do this?

[@DalasEVRepair]

@@groepi1972 Upcoming video later this year if all goes well ;)

[@TheWwedd]

@@DalasEVRepair thats big news since most all new fast chargers are ccs in sweden, looking forward to it!

[@Nicholas-f5]

@@TheWwedd Same here, US is doing a lot of even free CCS chargers on highways and in cities.

[@kierank01]

For the level of effort, would straight to CCS make more sense?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Yup! Costs more but roughly the same amount of work

[@ChrisBigBad]

@@DalasEVRepair Is a CCS conversion actually possible?

[@DalasEVRepair]

@@ChrisBigBad only a matter of time 😉

[@t.shonoiki563]

I do enjoy this video. Thank you.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Thanks for watching!

[@christopherrussell3012]

@DalasEVRepair thanks for the video. Question: @13:50 you mention you had to open up the PDM to clear some "interlock codes". Can you elaborate ? PDM is dead in my 2013, and I just ordered a replacement which I will be swapping in. I would like to know how to avoid this problem. Any other tips you can provide (not already covered in your great video) would be appreciated. Thanks!

[@DalasEVRepair]

I tried starting it without the aluminium lid installed. This will trigger lots of fault codes!

[@christopherrussell3012]

@@DalasEVRepair ok, thanks for the tip.

[@howardgarde3210]

Is there any way to introduce thermal management to a Leaf battery pack?

[@DalasEVRepair]

No easy solutions. Check out my rapidgate video

[@Crunch8111]

Dala, you’re already a boss, but if you do a E-Golf battery pack upgrade you are God :)

[@DalasEVRepair]

As soon as someone brings over an e-Golf I will try it!

[@Crunch8111]

@@DalasEVRepair :)

[@brianfischer1322]

Is there a way to upgrade the chademo to CCS on a 2013 Leaf?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Soon 😉

[@brianfischer1322]

@@DalasEVRepair Cool

[@gyulazaja9242]

Hi Dala ! I recently installed the Chademo, but instead of soldering the wires, I put new contacts in the connectors. I took out the necessary connectors and contacts from a broken Leaf. I also installed the cruise, but it doesn't work yet. Which application can I use to update the VCM software?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Only Consult3+ can flash!

[@gyulazaja9242]

@@DalasEVRepair Thanks

[@ruzyad8202]

great job and great video, we are also doing additional installation now and this video is the best visual aid) but I didn’t see how the wire that goes from the relay to the 9 pin PDM connector was laid, can you indicate how you laid it and where you connected it?

[@xboxice2005]

Nice, hey does the VCM communicate with the onboard charger for AC charging?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Hi, Yes it does, the battery and VCM talk with the PDM to regulate the power going into the battery (in case it gets too full or too hot/cold)

[@xboxice2005]

@@DalasEVRepair Awesome thanks bro,I just installed a new OBC in my Leaf as the one in the car died,when I first took it to Nissan they said its the vcm at fault after much investigation I found it couldn't be so I bought a second hand charger and installed it and now the car is charging via AC port again,Dc was still working on the broken charger.

[@Nicholas-f5]

@@xboxice2005 There is a known issue with the LEAF onboard charger for L2 going out I believe

[@male1346]

Thanks for the time for me. You show very interesting transformations. I watch to tears in my eyes. I'm especially interested in Lieaf, it's very popular. Too bad I don't live close. Is it possible to replace the CHadeMO connector with another type of input? is it possible to convert leaf to 3x16A charging at home 6.6KW? Standard 230V domestic installations have a maximum of 16A.

[@Nicholas-f5]

Amazing! 👏🏼 Let's do this on i3 and Bolt, has it been done on one yet? FYI a lot of US LEAFs (like my 2011) got the DC option for free, standard, as part of Obama's Reinvestment Act. As EVs were deployed, the Energy dept paid for this upgrade to ensure their usability. Most of the early years have this as standard for this reason.

[@kristofferabrahamsson]

I would like to see a video where you change the type 1 AC port to and type 2 port.

[@DalasEVRepair]

You might get this sooner than you think ;)

[@LoomisRex]

Can you also add a 2 or 3 phase charger instead of the 1 phase ?

[@DalasEVRepair]

You'll love the next charge-related video 😉

[@StevenNijenhuis]

Thump's up! Well done 👍

[@phonie]

Hi Dala, do you know, why the Leaf 2011 AC at 6 Amp not start charge...at 8 or 10 Amp well starting charge....! Some time before it start charge also with 6 Amp...? Why..? Any suggestions? Regards Anton

[@DalasEVRepair]

Impossible for me to say without looking at it directly!

[@phonie]

@@DalasEVRepair i will make a Video to this problem ...6Amp not starting Charge (with noise from the Relais) and then switch to 8Amp and start Charge.....(i have measured the pilot signal = OK + - reverse) 😉

[@phonie]

Dala, is it possible, that the resistor inside the battery case beginning to change his resistance? Can this measured from outside?

[@DalasEVRepair]

@@phonie Pre-charge resistor can be serviced from inside battery only!

[@phonie]

@@DalasEVRepair i know about That’s, but can it controlled from outside?

[@MrCopcreator]

Is it possible to upgrade onboard charger for 1st gen leaf (2011-2012) from 3.3kw to 6.6kw?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Unfortunately no OEM upgrade path, but keep an eye out for my next charger video ;)

[@MrCopcreator]

@@DalasEVRepair thats why im subscribed to your channel 👌

[@stevejordan7275]

Well first, here's how you do it for a 2013: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJrMdXx7oshnfrc Second, I know the 2011s will support 6.6kW and CHAdeMO; mine was done at the factory. Apparently I have a "unicorn" 2011 Leaf SL. Bought the Showroom Queen with 350 miles on, and got a $6K discount. Didn't realise how well equipped it was until last month. HOWEVER, the factory "sticker" (the one that lives in a side window until you buy the car) says the "Fast charge port" was a $700 option. I can't see the markings on the PDM, but I can charge 20-80 in under two hours, and 0-100 in a little over four. And my Time To Charge display will show two different charge times (I assume because it is a ZE0, and Nissan had not yet settled on its ultimate display protocol,) but it differentiates them as 120V and 240V. But wait, there's more! Nissan later installed a 2015 "Lizard" battery in November 2016 under the Klee class action (I waited as long as possible before taking them up on it to maximise the life of the new battery.) Currently 74K miles, 74% SOH, 10 bars. I'm looking for a crashed Leaf Plus, and then going to swap in a 62kWh tub-thumper battery; my ten-year-old Leaf will have Tesla 3-level range, and I reckon I can charge 160% more battery in 160% more time, which would mean circa 5 hours 20-80, and perhaps 10 for 0-100. (I'll fit the old battery's modules into our garage as a house battery backup.) If the motor survived the crash, I may try to swap in the whole stack, (so I can get its quicker-off-the-line 160kW motor.) But that would mean it already has an updated 6.6kW PDM on the top of that stack. Perhaps it would be relatively easier to install my old stack (with motor,) but at least you'd know it would have come from a 2011 where it worked. As you can see from the video, this might involve more wiring, soldering, and cursing loudly at the car's CAN (at least, if you work as I do.) Of course not a whiff of this would be possible without Master Öster's brilliant research and generosity.

[@Nicholas-f5]

@@stevejordan7275 Most of the 2011 US models got free DC charging courtesy of the Energy Dept, amazingly. Reinvestment Act paid Nissan the difference to spec most of them that way by default to ensure EV success for the first two years till they were made in TN. I have one with the Lizard upgrade but 3.3 kw charging. It's possible to parallel them.

[@KiselevDI]

Good afternoon. on the new motor scythe did all the connectors match the connectors on the old motor scythe? I started doing according to your video and ran into a problem, the connector for the air conditioning compressor on the old and on the new braid is different.

[@KiselevDI]

what is the difference between the connector itself and the number of wires. The old one has 3 wires, the new one has 4 wires.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Post pictures here for more help: openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=980&start=125

[@KiselevDI]

@@DalasEVRepair thanks

[@agile_rayc9969]

Very brave endeavors salute!

[@JMassengill]

wow! nice work

[@AminKiswani]

Hi Dala, Thank you for the nice and fruitful Video , just I would like to reconfirm that adding the fast charge port with the new PDM does not need any software update on the VCM ?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Correct, no VCM update needed!

[@AminKiswani]

Thanks for the quick reply 👍🏻

[@andrewschu3521]

Hi Dala! Very good video about CHADEMO port activation. You explained in great detail how to solder pin 8 to the VCM, but unfortunately you didn't show anything about how to connect the nine wires next to the CHADEMO port to the Nissan Leaf onboard electronics. If you still have diagrams of how to do it, please send a photo or video. I would be very grateful, because now I changed PDM myself and now I want to activate CHADEMO.

[@DalasEVRepair]

All the wiring diagrams are available on Nicoclub, search google for "Nicoclub Nissan Leaf"!

[@MK2GolfStories]

wow well done, that is some immense effort, great work, how long did it all take in the end?

[@DalasEVRepair]

This was done in 1.5 day, while customer was waiting on me to complete install 😅

[@MK2GolfStories]

@@DalasEVRepair nice work!!

[@Taeleus]

TL;DR What is the year range you got the charger and cable from? Long story, Im an avid DIY'er thats new to the nissan leaf game. Recently got a 2013 leaf and looking into battery pack upgrades. If I do that I will want this charging capability as level 2 just will be too slow still. Excellent video by the way! Loads of useful information!

[@DalasEVRepair]

Any AZE0 will be plug and play (2013-2017)!

[@Taeleus]

@@DalasEVRepair thank you for your reply! Your the Leaf saint!

[@TheWaterman1000]

Is there a way to mod a 2013 sv leaf with no quick charge port to use the car for v2h two way charging with solar/grid?

[@jamesphillips2285]

Not really. The quick-charge port does some safety checks before connecting the high voltage.

[@МишаМаваши-б7е]

Hey! I installed a fast charging port according to your instructions, but when connected to a charging station, errors B2814 and B2820 appear. Don't know what could be the problem?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Make a post on the mynissanleaf.com forum!

[@fjgaston]

Hi, is it possible to do the same upgrade on an env200 ? I think the pdm are the same aren't they ?

[@DalasEVRepair]

No the battery cooling is missing on the env200 without chademo, not so easy to add back

[@Crunch8111]

Nice Vid Dala thanks

[@scottiethomas3038]

How do I bleed off the air after changing out my onboard charge controller

[@DalasEVRepair]

Check the full service manual, evc.pdf has the info. Manual is available on nicoclub, google it!

[@mariopic]

is it possible to run leaf drive unit and charge system and high voltage battery and make chademo work still i got a full drive motor assembly with full harness im planing transplant it in to a diffrent car as a ev conversion what whould i.need to retain at bare min also ordered open inverter board for drive controller

[@DalasEVRepair]

Resolve ev

[@mariopic]

@@DalasEVRepair looked them up and theres np stock any other options ? im also looking to convert to ccs so i found option to control motor but want to know if regen will not function the resolve ev looks good but cant get my hands on one :(

[@DalasEVRepair]

@@mariopic thunderstruck vcu

[@ancient.journey]

Is it posible to use ioniq 28 charger in plug in hybrid? Ccs would be nice extra🙋‍♂️

[@DalasEVRepair]

Anything is possible with enough time and effort :)

[@ancient.journey]

@@DalasEVRepair Do you know who could do this kind of job in EU. My car is going to CNG conversing to netherlands so maybe i can drive anywhere if someone could do this🙋‍♂️💁🏼‍♂️

[@DalasEVRepair]

@@ancient.journey Muxsan in the NL can probably do it!

[@Apafej627]

Hi Dala, I'm looking at buying a 2013 Leaf that can only be charged by Chademo fast charger, is it very difficult to fix the AC charging on it? I'd appreciate it you could give me some advice. Thanks 😊

[@DalasEVRepair]

Google "nissan Leaf diode fix", quite common fault!

[@portlandlocalchurch8168]

Wow Do you think this is possible to do to a base model I-miev to add fast charger?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Most likely yes! Try the imiev discussion forum for more info

[@korhojoa_]

Neat. Next: e-Golf 7.2 kW charger retrofit?

[@DalasEVRepair]

Maybe if someone lets me experiment without time-pressure :D

[@Nicholas-f5]

LEAF 3.3kw chargers can also be paralleled

[@xdellavedova]

i think the best solution for europe is an upgrade from type 1 to type 2 > 20kw

[@Nicholas-f5]

AC, right?

[@pashko90]

@@Nicholas-f5 yes

[@puggirl415]

I have the other problem on my 2013 Nissan Leaf. I found a used one with the fast charge port. (CHADeMo) and that port works fine. It's my J1772 port that has a bent pin and can't be used. I bought a new J1772 charge port and have partially disassembled the area. What I'm having trouble with is getting the broken port off so I can install the new port. It doesn't seem to have any quick release for the wiring. Does anyone know how to remove a J1772 port from the car? I don't want to cut it off! Any ideas? I have found no videos on how to change the J1772 port. Strange.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Hi, When replacing the J1772 port, you need to change the entire thing. You cannot disassemble just the pins. That means you have to open the PDM in order to get the pins off the circuit board. So it is quite a big task!

[@puggirl415]

@@DalasEVRepair Oh wow thanks for that information. I was having a heck of a time looking at that thing wondering why it can't just be unhooked and a new one put on there. So what you are saying is the port and the wiring both have to be replaced. That changes things significantly. I will be getting some help on this now that I know what I may need. Thank you again. I haven't yet found any videos to look at the procedure but maybe looking at your video on putting a CSS port in will give me some ideas. Got that one on "watch later".

[@puggirl415]

@@DalasEVRepair Oh wow thank you for that information. So what you are saying is that the charge port and the wiring both have to be replaced. They sold me the port without the wiring so I thought that was all I needed. I haven't yet found a video to watch this repair but maybe your video on changing to a CCS port will be somewhat instructional. Thanks again!

[@kristofferabrahamsson]

I just wonder why you not went for the 6.6 kw inverter instead of the 3.3 kw.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Not what customer ordered, chademo was prio #1. Anyways, 1phase 6.6kW charging is not that common in Finland, main fuses for houses are often 25A, and only allow for safe 3.3kW charging. Special EVSEs that combine two phases into one is needed for 6.6kW. But yeah, would be excellent to try and source a 6.6kW charger if you're DIYing this!

[@kristofferabrahamsson]

@@DalasEVRepair I understand, main fuses here in Sweden are also around 25A, but I was more thinking about destination chargers, those ones are often 32A. At home I am okay with slower charge speed.

[@groepi1972]

@@kristofferabrahamsson Here in Gernany a Guy put in a 3 phase Charger into the ZE0. The us an German Forum Post.

[@phonie]

@@groepi1972 maybe the 3 phase - up to 22kWh charger from Brusa?

[@Nicholas-f5]

@@phonie There is a video about paralleling a Brusa to make it 6.6kw indeed

[@FinnishArmy]

As soon as you started talking, I knew you were Finnish. SUOMI! Torille. Do you think it would be possible to make a CCS to ChaDemo adapter, or retro-fit a connector for the leaf since ChaDemo is a dying standard.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Yes! See my later videos 😁

[@sygall]

interconnect issues..i have them ....you had them .....Please tell us how they were resolved

[@DalasEVRepair]

You mean interlock? Best to make a thread on the mynissanleaf.com forum!

[@sygall]

@@DalasEVRepair yes interlock.

[@DalasEVRepair]

@@sygall then some HV cable is not seated, or the charger lid is open!

[@oleksandrdemchyshyn2452]

Well done! But it is not the first. First was done on Electrichka channel 2 years ago.

[@DalasEVRepair]

Nice! Wasn't probably in English then, since I didn't find anything other than this post: www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=12704&start=20#p529319

[@sygall]

What patron donation for 10 emails to resolve issues

[@tommcl8548]

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