Damage on Poison Spider Trail! | Jeep Grand Cherokee (WK2) | Jeep Badge of Honor Trail

[@christophermerrett2306]

I have seen all of your videos. And I can definitely come to the conclusion, I am very impressed with the Trailhawk for its capabilities. This vehicle has exceeded my expectations.

[@ProdigalOverland]

We feel the same way. I remember looking at its stats before we bought it and I was thinking why don't more folks use this for off road purposes. I figured it was worth the try!

[@heathremington3903]

Instablaster

[@dwightmurrah6591]

B-Rad did really well. He was puckered on one obstacle and put a lot of faith in us. Our other ORV is an FJ Cruiser. We are familiar with teetering and being on three wheels. It was the only way I saw to get him down without making contact with the rear plastics again. The Trailhawk with a HEMI is a bad little machine with Brad on the wheel. I will never forget Fiona's reaction the first time I had one rear wheel 3 feet in the air. X-Rated. Now she gives direction...

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks again Dwight for the good spotting. And a great day!

[@solano760]

you're crazy man.....👍 Jeep needs to sponsor you.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Ha! Not holding my breath on that one.

[@SandySnuggles]

We love how straight forward and honest you guys always are, never afraid or ashamed to show things that maybe didn’t work as well or at least not the way you expected. Keep up the great adventures and amazing footage! -Chris & Sandy

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks for the comments and for the support!

[@barnabyjonesdangerdog758]

Every once in a while YT gets it right and puts great channel in my feed - this was one of those times. I have only watched your last three episodes, but now I'll be doing some binge watching. The kids also add a little extra humor and entertainment. lol Keep up the great work.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks so much. I’m glad you found us! I’ll pass on the compliments!

[@TimetoplayTV]

These 2 videos are the 1st of yours I've seen. I like your camera work. You got a new subscriber!

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thank you. I can’t really take much of the credit for the camera work. My kids and wife do most of it while I drive. Then I take everything and edit it. Thanks for subscribing. I’ll let the family know you like the camera work!

[@TimetoplayTV]

Well I add to that the editing work is very good.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks!

[@tzehr2617]

Just a head’s up from a former WK owner who took his 2008 Grand Cherokee on many Moab and Colorado trails - your bushings will take a beating (they don’t like the extreme articulation). I had to replace all of my front suspension bushings every 30k miles. Since you also have IRS, you’ll probably need to replace all the rear bushings at that interval. It gets old and expensive after a while.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks for the heads Up!

[@darksideemt]

These 2 videos were awesome. Can't give you props enough for the things you do with it, you have way more guts than me. The drone shots were great and the edits especially in the last video when you started the waterfall section.

[@mikerobbins5049]

We did Poison Spider in 2018 right after we got the JLU while it was stock. Havent had the chance to get back since lift and tires were installed.

[@ProdigalOverland]

It's a good trail

[@mikerobbins5049]

@@ProdigalOverland It sure is a fun trail. We were hoping to get back out there this year and compare what its like with 37” ires and 2 1/2” lift. We really have enjoyed every trail we’ve done around Moab. Some we do every year and then try new ones every year too.

[@cirecast8177]

My guy has some big cajones! Well done!

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks 😁

[@carlcvplow2432]

That Trailhawk is very impressive as well as your driving skills.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks 👍

[@frankansley7941]

Enjoyed the video. Glad you have all that protection underneath. I don't think my Grand Cherokee Trail Hawk will ever see that trail. It is very impressive to see what your Jeep can do. Glad the gas smell was not a problem. Be safe!!

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thank you! Thanks for watching!

[@tgvaillancourt]

Nice to see the sand mode works. The snow mode is worse than automatic on anything but pure ice. My go to mode for snow is the mud one

[@ProdigalOverland]

Yep. It did well! Haven’t been in snow yet with this Trailhawk.

[@MrKozanitis]

@Tyler 5017 totally agree with you. As I only go off-roading in Greece and Italy from April to October, I do not encounter snow. But, yes, plenty of rocks, some sand and rarely mud; climatic and geographical conditions are very similar to those of the U.S. SouthWest. Hence, I can attest to my JGC Overland Trail Rated capabilities in those circumstances...and they are awesome! Happy trails to you.

[@kenahenakew8761]

I take off traction control off , snow mode is useless, I want all wheels to spin not 50 percent of them in snow/ice, I guess except for highway speeds.

[@phelandeluna5439]

@@kenahenakew8761 if you want all wheels to work you'll need to get a '99-'04 quadradrive or '05-'10 quadradrive II

[@kenahenakew8761]

@@phelandeluna5439 mines a 2015 ecodiesel quadra drive 2

[@stephenhargraves1395]

The change in altitude can cause the vehicle to run rich or lean depending on what the sensor reads. Yes its fuel injected but the sensor still has to adjust timing to compensate for altitude which usually causes a rich burn. It very well could have been running rich causing the strong fuel smell from exhaust. Any other fuel odor under the hood would be through your intake manifold and around the tank area could be your overflow on the gas tank or the charcoal filter from the extreme grades.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks for the information! Good stuff 😁

[@snowlothar45]

I am very impressed with what you can do with the Grand Cherokee. I think I see one in my future. So much so I put a hold deposit down on a Trailhawk set to arrive in a couple days.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Good Stuff! Have Fun!

[@grn9209]

You do great for having very little or no mods!👏🏼👊🏼

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thank you! We enjoy seeing just how much we can do!

[@mysideonu]

No mods?...he’s got a few that I can see. That rear bumper is hurting your departure though.

[@shadowtiger2363]

I have armour on mine and was rear ended by an F150 his truck was heavily damaged to a point he couldn't drive it. my armour held up severely damaged but no damage to jeep.

[@genejordin7189]

Another great video gang!! Loving the drone work, as well as the camera angles. Always impressed with what our GCTH's can do. Always looking forward to the next video. Safe travels guys. p.s...Moms line ,"my nerves are done" had me rolling.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks! I’ll pass on the compliments!

[@IndefiniteGentlemen]

i really need to reassess whether i really need a JL for the stuff i do. seems like this grand with a minor lift and nice tires did juuust fine considering.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Yep. Plus all that luxury and on road comfort

[@justagraytj]

Thank goodness everything is all good with the Grand Cherokee!! What a challenge! Looked like a long and stressful trail but seemed like it was worth it

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks! It was a challenge for sure. But I'm glad we did it.

[@navihater]

Was in moab this weekend and almost flipped my cherokee kl. I wish i had the video but i put it on one wheel. A guy flipped his green utv next to me. The funny thing is, we were only on fins and things. Nothing compared to what your doing. Great driving and video.

[@ProdigalOverland]

master cheif glad you didn’t flip! Thanks for watching!

[@Doomsday410]

How dare you not have a wrangler like everyone else! J/K love seeing something different. 🤘

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks. We enjoy being different

[@adrianoldham9778]

Thanks for the videos! I appreciate the fact that you don’t ramble on aimlessly thru the whole thing. My wife and I are headed to Moab in our ‘19 WK2 Trailhawk in a few weeks...can’t wait! The gas you’re smelling at the end of the video is from shaking things up on the trail. The gas vent tube is at the rear wheel behind the liner.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks for the feedback! Good to know

[@WisconsinDIYGuy]

Is that the rubber, open ended tube that comes down in front of each rear wheel?

[@gspfunk]

It’s just on the driver’s side and connects to the fuel neck compartment.

[@MrKozanitis]

Hi from Greece, Brad! No such luck (or should I say something else?) here as our trails do not resemble the least the trails in the States...and certainly nothing like this one! Glad you made it through with only minor damage and that the gas smell went away on its own. Congratulations on a very tough Poison Spider Trail conquering! Awesome video. I look forward to seeing you later in November; I don't think I can make it for the 6th. Good luck with that and have fun.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks you! Hope we can meet up sometime!

[@MrKozanitis]

@Brad...for sure!

[@vernonbennettiii3646]

Wow. It really looked like you were going to roll your Jeep downhill when Dwight was spotting for you!

[@ProdigalOverland]

He did a great job!

[@jre617]

Fun to watch. I have a similar '18 TH so it's fun to see what's possible, but not sure I have the nerve to do this trail. BTW, the DRLs are a menu item. You can turn them off to eliminate the annoying flickering in the video.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Man I thought the flicker made me look like Kit from Knight Rider.

[@user-cj7dv2kc6d]

Taken my wk2 to moab a number of times. Hells, elephant hill, fins, tower arch. No problem, but does make the trails more challenging compared to a wrangler. Less articulation, less ground clearance, less tire. In my wrangler poison spyder loop is a bit of a snoozer.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Must be a modified Jeep?

[@Jeepingshort]

Genuinely curious. Why not buy a wrangler?

[@ProdigalOverland]

Hi Chase! we get this question a lot. Made a video on it to answer. Enjoy! and thanks for reaching out! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmTHhKePpJ6Ebac

[@zacariaspiedrasdelrio8984]

I heard a lot about Grand Cherokee reliability . But i love them and i rather a Cherokee over a Wrangler because the way they drive on road

[@sking2173]

Same with the Cherokee. Great grocery getter, kid hauler, good in the snow, but still a capable light off-roader - much more so than any of its direct competitors. I’ll take the Cherokee over a CRV or RAV4 any day. The Cherokee is actually fun!

[@meiraway]

Great video 👍👍👍

[@Findingourzen]

You should round out the build with chiefs sump and transmission plates too. They did a great job on those plates.

[@ProdigalOverland]

I sure should! There coming in the mail as I write this. Hopefully here in a couple of days!

[@Findingourzen]

@@ProdigalOverland Very nice. You make me want to go out to Moab and run these trails in my WK2!!! Great channel!

[@ProdigalOverland]

Findingourzen you should for sure!

[@infinityronin]

Was just going to suggest this, glad they are in the mail (and probably installed at this point).

[@travismcbride2301]

Glad to see you made it all the way through. Tough break on the damage. Looking to do some upgrades on my '14 JGC Overland soon. What do you think first? Rock rails or front bumper?

[@ProdigalOverland]

Rock rails for sure. Thanks for watching!

[@9aqua_man282]

10:07 I nearly got hit by your big stick... :)

[@torrooffroad7806]

Great video guys. Keep up the good work!

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thank you! We appreciate the kind words!

[@sherylengelhardt6140]

Hi there! This is amazing what you can do with a JCherokee! Are you planning to do the Moab Rim Trail and Amasa Back?

[@ProdigalOverland]

Thanks for reaching out. I don't think we have plans for Moab Rim trail and I haven't hear of Amasa Back. Where is that one?

[@gerry3534]

Nice job mate but I’m interested as to how you avoided damage towards the end there when you nosed into the rock. No way forward without some track building but nothing in the footage to show that.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Good Eye! Yep I had to back up a bit and Lauren put a rock under the tire. She put the camera down and picked a rock up.

[@Jeff-ii6br]

just subbed thanks for the great vids

[@ProdigalOverland]

jeff ooo thanks for subscribing!

[@smokinjoeblazers]

Great videos. Thanks.

[@davidmcottrell]

What is your approach, break over, departure angle, and ground clearance in your GC?

[@frenchie4wd]

Can you tell me what headlights you have? Are they aftermarket? My WK2 headlights are so dim. Also. What front and rear bumper protection do you have? Thanks for any and all help! I just got my vehicle and love your channel. Actually traded in a Wrangler for mine. 😂🤷🏽‍♀️

[@ProdigalOverland]

Our Headlights are the upgraded factory headlights option (bi xeon). Out protection is from chief Products out of Australia. Thanks for watching!

[@sirroloco]

Do you recommend 265/70/R18 AT tires?

[@jayhiddinga4292]

When you are on these challenging trails, especially on the slow crawling hill climbs, what is the temperature of your transmission and oil?

[@ProdigalOverland]

Transmission is right around 195. Have looked at the oil temp recently

[@endobill7058]

Tower Arch vid coming?

[@ProdigalOverland]

I think so. I have to go through the footage. It was a bit more casual trail ride for us.

[@off-roadingexplained8417]

To be fair... In stock form, the breakover is WAY better on the Grand Cherokee compared to the stock gladiator. That said , I think people own a stock Gladiator for about a month maybe and it goes to the mod shop and it's not stock anymore...

[@ProdigalOverland]

Yep. That’s all very true!

[@agentorange8772]

can't wait for hell's revenge😉

[@ProdigalOverland]

It’s gonna be a good one!

[@jamesalbarran6016]

Looks almost as bad as the Chicago streets I have to drive with my 2019 Trailhawk. :)

[@ProdigalOverland]

😂😂😉

[@stephendowd8161]

Do you think it would be possible to add an after market lift kit along side the air suspension? I just bought a Grand Cherokee trail hawk and I'm curious what modifications can be made to it

[@ProdigalOverland]

This is all I have seen on this. Good luck!airlinksgc.com/

[@stephendowd8161]

Thanks for the reply! I was looking at a rough country 2.5" bolt on kit, this looks like it will work out better and is cheaper!

[@ProdigalOverland]

@@stephendowd8161 happy to help!

[@funkywk2]

@@stephendowd8161 Check out some of the forums for more info on that, but the gist of it is that the CV angles will be too sharp if you go much higher than it comes stock.

[@steveowen8884]

@@funkywk2 true but if you are only running in OR2 when needed the CVs aren't getting beaten up all the time. There is a guy on Jeep Garage that used a spacer lift to get appx 2" of extra lift in all modes, and uses OR1 with less of the topping out problem associated with OR2.

[@deanotto7810]

Keep your arm inside the car!!! Only takes a split second to lose it!

[@sw5861]

Is your grand cherokee at stock ride height

[@ProdigalOverland]

We have the air suspension. It was all the way up. We also have a slightly larger tire than stock. But other than that yes.

[@fahdabdulaziz5067]

Hey man. I've got a question. I need to replace the Wrangler All Terrain Adventure tires and I like them alot but i couldn't find them here in Saudi Arabia and that size is almost not heard of. The only size available is 265/65 18R which is higher than the stock ones. Do you run this size? Any rubbing? If not what size are you running?

[@ProdigalOverland]

That is the same size we have. Fits well, no rubbing on road. But have had some rubbing when we are off roading. Is still do it again. Happy with the size.

[@fahdabdulaziz5067]

@@ProdigalOverland well i imagine if it's rubbing when off roading this may void my warranty

[@ProdigalOverland]

Fahd Abdulaziz it may. Maybe you could call your local dealership and ask

[@fahdabdulaziz5067]

@@ProdigalOverland yeah. Going to check with them tomorrow. Thanks man

[@adrianoldham9778]

I’m also running 265/65r18’s (Nitto Ridge Grappler) and appreciate the extra clearance. No rubbing that I’ve found (16k miles on them). Speedo is off by 2 MPH @ 70 since I haven’t bought AlfaOBD and corrected it yet.

[@npst93]

how much psi do you have in your tires for this?

[@ProdigalOverland]

We were probably around 22 for this trail. Our next video will be on tires and tire pressures. so make sure to catch that one

[@npst93]

@@ProdigalOverland i'm really looking forward to the video. Thank you for the information

[@sean9267]

Air suspension was a bad, dangerous choice Less articulation = Increased pitch/roll

[@ProdigalOverland]

Do you think there is a big difference the quadralift suspension articulation and the OEM coil suspension on the WK2? I've been out off-roading with several WK2 with the Coil Suspension and haven't seen more articulation on their rigs. I'm genuinely curious to know if there is any significant difference. Obviously why WK2 is not exactly known for articulation.

[@sean9267]

@@ProdigalOverland watching your videos, the stock coil suspension appears to have a little more articulation than Trailhawk's Quadralift in OR1/2. But, you know there are aftermarket coil options and lifts whereas we're pretty much stuck with the air suspension. Maybe the Bronco or a 392 or Diesel JL will suit your needs more? (I'm waiting for Bronco)

[@ProdigalOverland]

I’ll have to do a video on this topic. Thanks for the idea!

[@user-cj7dv2kc6d]

Not good performance for that chief lower bumper guard.

[@agentorange8772]

👏👏👏👏

[@ekutner]

Your advice re. what to do when tipping sideways is problematic. Turning the wheels in the direction of the decline is certainly correct but hitting the brakes is actually the thing that can cause you to roll over. I most cases you should actually drive towards the direction your tipping to. The best way to understand this instinctively is remember what you do when you're just walking by foot and hit a very steep descent, in most cases you instinctively feel it's better to just run down than try to carefully walk down and it's more or less the same in this case.

[@ProdigalOverland]

Yep. I should have clarified this. I do in a different video. For sure if you have a decent amount of momentum slamming on the brakes is a bad idea. However if you are in control, gently applying brakes and reversing can work. I have utilized this technique several times. Control and momentum dictate which is better. Thanks for bringing this up!

[@captseamus]

According to Jeep Roll-Over Protection for passengers is rated 3/5... Not very good for an offroad vehicle.

[@canslono1084]

Flickering lights very annoying. Make it difficult to watch.

[@thehayman7352]

Now get a 4runner and have some actual fun

[@ProdigalOverland]

😂😂😂