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Damia vs Brago vs Arcades vs Rowan | Will EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

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MTG Muddstah

MTG Muddstah

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@Deris76
@Deris76 6 жыл бұрын
welp, looks like the birth of evil Alex
@TheRedGauntlet
@TheRedGauntlet 6 жыл бұрын
1 deck has Earthcraft, Gaea's Cradle, original dual lands and alot of OP cards while Arcades had a Fortified Rampart....
@octozed
@octozed 6 жыл бұрын
TheRedGauntlet it's a wall deck. It plays bad cards. He atleast has a cavern of souls so it's not exactly a budget deck.
@Cabbrickk
@Cabbrickk 6 жыл бұрын
Also give me a 6 "power" 2 drop that replaces itself anyday of the week.
@Jordan-ub5kw
@Jordan-ub5kw 6 жыл бұрын
Rules error. When Brago flickered himself and the aura he couldn't have the aura enter back on Brago This is because they enter at the same time and for an aura to attach to something that permanent must already be on the field. Otherwise, great video as always.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
Good catch! Thanks for letting me know. I'll be sure to let Fred know so he can keep it in mind moving forward.
@THEMithrandir09
@THEMithrandir09 6 жыл бұрын
MTG Muddstah just a heads up reality acid when flickered can attack to permanents with shroud and hexproof since choosing does not target
@Doricus
@Doricus 6 жыл бұрын
by the way the Vanishing counter is removed in controler's aura upkeep.
@josefranciscodasilvaeolive674
@josefranciscodasilvaeolive674 6 жыл бұрын
Stuart Pratt Good call!! I saw that myself and immediately went to the comments to see if anyone caught it. 👍
@Nick-um1pi
@Nick-um1pi 5 жыл бұрын
@@Doricus they did that, even though it looked like it was controlled by someone else it is still technially controlled by the brago player which is why he can blink it
@FleishDawg
@FleishDawg 6 жыл бұрын
There seems to be a mis-match in power levels here...
@andreasorphanou5469
@andreasorphanou5469 6 жыл бұрын
FleishDawg squirrels op man
@addambarcelos
@addambarcelos 6 жыл бұрын
Earthcraft is insane. However, reality acid is filthy
@JordanCirksena
@JordanCirksena 6 жыл бұрын
That Will & Rowan face morph really messed with me.
@johannpohland2826
@johannpohland2826 6 жыл бұрын
When 1 dudes deck costs more than everything in my flat together
@davideleidi9361
@davideleidi9361 6 жыл бұрын
Johann Pöhland i was going to write the same thing lol :)
@lucas6227
@lucas6227 6 жыл бұрын
wtf someone can have a job but still not have money to buy multiple $2000 pieces of cardboard
@tombie15
@tombie15 6 жыл бұрын
no single card played in this game is worth anything near $2000
@lucas6227
@lucas6227 6 жыл бұрын
tombie, obviously exaggerating but that doesn't take away from the fact that lots of cards in this game are very very expensive and are not easy to obtain by just working an average 9-5 and still paying rent + buying food and much more
@CeltiesSin
@CeltiesSin 6 жыл бұрын
“Having an expensive deck doesn’t win the game” but it did? Bryan used alex’s expensive deck to win. Alex had the game the entire time, and without the clutch trickbind he would have won.
@matthugenberg8869
@matthugenberg8869 6 жыл бұрын
And this game, my friends, is why doing your instant speed combo at, well, instant speed, is always the right play. Never let 6999 squirrels sit on the board to be taken or wrathed away.
@zubinbaliga7145
@zubinbaliga7145 6 жыл бұрын
I get the getting taken part, but that's more of a fringe scenario compared to the krosan grip he is playing around. If they get wrathed he just makes more, so I don't see why that should be a problem.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
From what he told me after, his primary concern was Krosan Grip from Eric.
@RoxyGotMoxy.
@RoxyGotMoxy. 6 жыл бұрын
This is why my go to wincon in Damia is getting Deadeye Navigator out along with Peregrine Drake, making infinite mana, then using that mana to tutor up Rune-Scarred Demon, pairing that and using rune-scarred to find Blue Sun's Zenith and drawing one opponent out of the game, then flickering rune-scarred to find zenith again and repeat ad infinitum. If they try to respond I can blink at instant speed, find whatever answer I need and cast it, then carry on. You know your combo is resilient when the stack trying to stop you is 17 cards deep and you're STILL gonna win 😅🤣😉😎😋
@09Dragonite
@09Dragonite 6 жыл бұрын
I am so glad Bryan won this game, I love those two planeswalkers. The 7,000 squirrels combo with Damia was fantastic as well, and honestly I'm really not the biggest fan of Arcades. He is definitely the best wall commander, but wall tribal isn't as aggressive as I enjoy playing and from the decks I've played against as long as Arcades is out of the game the rest of the deck tends to flop pretty hard.
@CodemanB2
@CodemanB2 6 жыл бұрын
As a cEDH player, Alex upsets me. He is playing a cEDH deck against non-cEDH decks. Alex, and people like him, are why we get a bad name. When you set down at a table of strangers, the first question that should be asked is how comepetitive are we playing? These guys are running their win on turn 9 or later decks and Alex is trying to win on turn 4. Discuss power levels before playing. If Bryan didn't have the exact cards he needed it would have been an utter blowout.
@commodified
@commodified 6 жыл бұрын
I see Alex winning at a table of Blood Pod, Flash Hulk, and Teferi Chain Veil like 5% of the time.
@CodemanB2
@CodemanB2 6 жыл бұрын
cEDH is not just tier 1 decks. It's about building the most competitive version of a deck with the intent of winning as fast and most consistently as possible. That was a very refined Damia list he was running and not something you bring to a casual table.. He's pub stomping. He's bringing a rocket launcher to a knife fight. He lost, yes, but that was the most rare of circumstances that he lost. The other nine times, he's winning.
@commodified
@commodified 6 жыл бұрын
The Command Zone had a great episode recently where they talked about five levels of decks: jank (1-2), casual (3-4), tuned (5-6), optimized (7-8), and competitive/cedh (9-10). They said, and I tend to agree, that decks can comfortably play one tier "up" or "down," but not two. I'd call the Damia deck "optimized," the Brago and Izzet decks "tuned," and the walls deck "casual." The issue here is the big disparity in power level between the Damia deck and the walls deck, not the Damia deck's power level in absolute terms. I mean, are we forgetting the Izzet deck's turn 1 Sol Ring into Grim Monolith into Commander's Sphere? And anyways it's hard to always find a perfectly even playing field in a four player pod. Maybe the Damia player didn't bring a weaker deck. Maybe the walls guy didn't bring any stronger decks. Sure, in a perfect world everybody would bring five different decks of varying power level to the store, and proceed to have a five minute conversation before shuffling up in which they describe their deck's intended route to victory, budget, play style, and so forth, and then try to reach a quorum on which deck to play, but that's unrealistic.
@plain6677
@plain6677 6 жыл бұрын
commodified Damia is not “optimized” but a 9 competitive. Look at the list! In this game we only saw the weakest part of his deck.
@j13productions42
@j13productions42 6 жыл бұрын
Plain I'd say lvl 8 optimized. While his deck is indeed powerful, it isn't cEDH level just yet, The commander isn't the powerlevel needed. There are better, faster Sultai lists out there. Its still pretty powerful and not something I would personally bring to a table unless I'm certain that the players are all on the same lvl. Or at least close enough.
@kennythereaver1
@kennythereaver1 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like the threat assessment was a bit off but it felt more like Fred was playing against Bryan and Alex by himself. Its never easy being the fun police.
@Pramxnim
@Pramxnim 6 жыл бұрын
Reality Acid should trigger on Fred's upkeep, not Alex's, because Fred owns the enchantment
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
Yea, I realized this while editing, but seeing as how he blinked it before it ever ticked down, I just let it be.
@drvinylscratch1936
@drvinylscratch1936 6 жыл бұрын
At looking at the commanders I was going to say who is going to let brago resolve. And then it turned it into 7000 squirrels and a win snipe that was majorly satisfying.
@xakuyer
@xakuyer 6 жыл бұрын
Wow this ending, couldn't expect that
@AffinityForCommander
@AffinityForCommander 6 жыл бұрын
Great game! It's nice to see the partner planeswalkers in action!
@jthrone7768
@jthrone7768 6 жыл бұрын
Another video, another string of comments about the intro.
@Bcdeano
@Bcdeano 6 жыл бұрын
the trickbind play is something I've only ever dreamed of. amazing
@ms.sysbit5511
@ms.sysbit5511 6 жыл бұрын
NGL but the power variance at the table was way too big for my taste. I can enjoy cEDH or casual but jamming both together is jarring.
@giovanniguzman1852
@giovanniguzman1852 6 жыл бұрын
The trickbind on the reservoir was the best thing ever. I love sticking it to flashy decks
@oom-3262
@oom-3262 6 жыл бұрын
top ten anime betrayals
@user-qt8uy5vv7n
@user-qt8uy5vv7n 6 жыл бұрын
I always though that when you blink things with Brago, everything comes back together. If so, an aura shouldn't be able to enchant a creature that is not yet on the board, because they where blinked together, or a clone couldn"t copy a permanent that was blinked alongside it. Am I wrong ?
@andrewbader6927
@andrewbader6927 6 жыл бұрын
yea your right that just did it wrong
@davidiswhat
@davidiswhat 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Goblin laugh should sound like a witch
@PowerhouseSceptile
@PowerhouseSceptile 6 жыл бұрын
Dude that combo of Will/Rowan in the thumbnail is going to give me nightmares
@adams333
@adams333 6 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or Eric kept a very bad hand? 2 islands and all the other cards were white...
@ErikTheRedd1
@ErikTheRedd1 6 жыл бұрын
Originally I was like man fred is hating on Alex hard and as I watch the video I understand why
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 6 жыл бұрын
I can picture Alex throwing that massive dice at Fred for messing with his permanents... or at Bryan, for winning with Alex's own combo. :P
@nikk0k
@nikk0k 6 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this while I sleeve up my new Brago deck!
@PaulGaither
@PaulGaither 6 жыл бұрын
1) I prefer Brago in my Roon of the Hidden Realm deck more than as the commander of his own deck. 2) If you are not ready to swing with your infinite token army, then do no make an infinite token army. 3) It is always a good idea to have a few "Oops, I guess I win" cards like Exsanguinate, or Reins of Power if they exist in your colors.
@matiasrochaix2234
@matiasrochaix2234 6 жыл бұрын
I lived for this game's ending ! Yaaaas I love that card.
@briebaggaley6801
@briebaggaley6801 6 жыл бұрын
I was not expecting the reins of power to steal the game
@IRSmeger
@IRSmeger 6 жыл бұрын
i could be wrong but my understanding is that is if you bounce a creature and an aura with Brago the bounced creature is not a viable target for the aura
@moonlight2870
@moonlight2870 6 жыл бұрын
You heard of #nobluetable, now see #allbluetable
@ericplank1357
@ericplank1357 6 жыл бұрын
Keep up the awesome vids
@classicsidepart1477
@classicsidepart1477 6 жыл бұрын
Great game!!! Nevertheless, I always wonder when someone goes land into Sol Ring into Monolith and uses it right away... Sure, Bryan was able to play Lantern , but that lost him 2 mana on turn two...Since he won in the end - and with a nice move at that - it doesn't make any difference at all, but still... getting down your 6 mana Commander on turn two seems a lot better imo :-/ especially since Will's ultimate could have been reached rather easily that way and is bonkers as hell!
@federicocarlucci7973
@federicocarlucci7973 6 жыл бұрын
My boy, Brago, is back to the channel! Long live the... No, wait, he's dead
@mariorivas7952
@mariorivas7952 6 жыл бұрын
I liked the previous laughter better!
@crazydude324
@crazydude324 6 жыл бұрын
Turn 2 Damia, now that's living the dream.
@oxdans
@oxdans 6 жыл бұрын
Hum... @5:50 you can't blink Brago if you want to enchant it with the aura that is also is being blinked. You can only re attach auras on targets already in play as it's reentering.
@thelunchlady8276
@thelunchlady8276 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, a squirrel beat-down is the most satisfying beat-down!
@the_trash_mane5875
@the_trash_mane5875 6 жыл бұрын
Alex's deck is the price of my tuition,jesus christ
@dtnuh
@dtnuh 6 жыл бұрын
That savage Trickbind play tho
@andrewblizzard2417
@andrewblizzard2417 6 жыл бұрын
Trickbind is my JAMMM!
@2009Patches
@2009Patches 6 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail for the twins.. *shudders
@quaide78
@quaide78 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome yet again. Love your content!
@bosstsuna114
@bosstsuna114 6 жыл бұрын
Run the crossroads to give all ur squirrles haste and get it off your tutor to win with squirrles nest on that turn
@earvinmanansala5213
@earvinmanansala5213 6 жыл бұрын
Hey MUDDSTAH. Not sure if you’ve answered this in the past, but what tripod are you using btw?
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
The cheapest one I can find on Amazon.
@bestregards9672
@bestregards9672 4 жыл бұрын
1:40 dont touch someones card just cuz youre impatient
@freya002YT
@freya002YT 6 жыл бұрын
When brago blinks himself, does the enchantment fall off?
@dreddbolt
@dreddbolt 6 жыл бұрын
Will Jones Brago flickers all the non-land things.
@vexxbane6172
@vexxbane6172 6 жыл бұрын
Yes it would not be able to be put back on brago as they both enter at the same time and the enchantment would need a target already on the field.
@DavidOConnor44
@DavidOConnor44 6 жыл бұрын
Will Jones You are right, when Brago flickers the enchantment and himself they both enter at the same time and see each other. If there is another creature the aura can go to it then next turn Brago can flicker it back to himself.
@dreddbolt
@dreddbolt 6 жыл бұрын
Brago is like Flickerform on steroids.
@jacobisaacs4160
@jacobisaacs4160 6 жыл бұрын
Bless you for these generals
@jjcc8379
@jjcc8379 6 жыл бұрын
How did the earthcraft go from 6:53 from Urborg to the forest on 7:04 ??? You say "forest", but he clearly drops over urborg... Did he realize he missplayed and couldnt combo off? Urborg with squirrel nest is not infinite.
@jjcc8379
@jjcc8379 6 жыл бұрын
Chickens are Awesome still not a basic land....
@jjcc8379
@jjcc8379 6 жыл бұрын
Chickens are Awesome but it doesn't change if it's legendary or basic. Super types don't change. It's on the rules of urborg on gatherer.
@tommylanders1997
@tommylanders1997 5 жыл бұрын
@@ceoofpiss7668 I'm a little late to comment, but the original post was to point out that Nest was played on top of the Urborg, not the forest and is seen to be moved after the combo
@barryjimenez9641
@barryjimenez9641 6 жыл бұрын
Reins of power has won me many a games lol
@RoxyGotMoxy.
@RoxyGotMoxy. 6 жыл бұрын
Barry Jimenez my Nicol Bolas deck LOVES it. Even if I don't get to swap my empty board for my opponents on my turn and kill them, I often use it when attacked, take their board, and do something dastardly like sacrifice it to Razaketh or Attrition to kill off someone else's problem creatures while putting counters on my Black Market XD
@MrFeierkind
@MrFeierkind 6 жыл бұрын
Alex shoudl have unttaped his Squirrel Nest in response to the reigns, than he could have made infinite blockers or am I missing something. He was at 7 and taking 4 in the air from the SPhinx so he should have survived?
@KromeDrone
@KromeDrone 6 жыл бұрын
This is what people talk about when they say EDH is "legacy-lite". Alex's deck costs more than my friggen car.
@John-Laird
@John-Laird 6 жыл бұрын
Elspeth, Sun's Champion was in the fist pack of mtg i ever opened.
@neonlordsrpg
@neonlordsrpg 6 жыл бұрын
What a twist!
@estebanjuarez6606
@estebanjuarez6606 5 жыл бұрын
how can i see the rowan and will deck, i want to make it
@silencia08
@silencia08 4 жыл бұрын
7:00 how did Alex untap the land Squirrel's Nest is enchanted to, to make 7000 squirrel tokens?
@CeilingNinja
@CeilingNinja 4 жыл бұрын
Earthcraft allows you to tap an untapped creature to untap a tapped land. So you then tap the land to make a token, tap the token to untap the land, and repeat. It's a well-known combo, but you seriously shouldn't do it unless you're ready that same turn to swing for the win because a single life into a Toxic Deluge can wipe your field.
@gustavomartinsdesouza5548
@gustavomartinsdesouza5548 6 жыл бұрын
"So, nice 6999 squirrels you have there, may I borrow them for a moment?"
@k.mccarthy6709
@k.mccarthy6709 5 жыл бұрын
That Damia deck is like a new Honda civic haha
@geraldlaperuche5613
@geraldlaperuche5613 6 жыл бұрын
Alex's deck probably cost more than my car
@Battleguild
@Battleguild 5 жыл бұрын
Fred would annoy me so much by being overly touchy with my cards. When dealing with other people's cards, I try to avoid touching them directly as much as possible. (I'll use the corner of cards to point at something, and if it's an aura attaching to something I don't own, I'll set the offending card adjacent to my target.) Other than that, this was an interesting game.
@robertochiodini1267
@robertochiodini1267 6 жыл бұрын
Evil Alex and diabolic Bryan, but amazing game.
@lcewave
@lcewave 6 жыл бұрын
Fred wouldnt be able to put that enchantment on brago when he flickered them both because brago isnt on the field as they enter
@smack80
@smack80 4 жыл бұрын
I dont think steel of the God head could reattach to brago if they enter the field at the same time.
@AnonYmous-mc5zx
@AnonYmous-mc5zx 6 жыл бұрын
Had Bryan just cast his commanders instead of trying to big dumb counterable spells he mightve been able to do something. Damia and Brago were too far into their fued to worry about a couple of easily managed walkers.
@claytonhandshy8906
@claytonhandshy8906 6 жыл бұрын
Turn 2 Damia ………….. Not bad. Squirrels are amazing aren't they, so versatile and big
@nathones
@nathones 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for vid. Not a huge fan of games with this big of a gap in $$$ and power level. Kind of steals the spotlight.
@GenyaArikado
@GenyaArikado 6 жыл бұрын
I also played with my newly built Arcades deck and won against players with much more powerful decks ;) it was fun! hehe..
@christopherrue4752
@christopherrue4752 6 жыл бұрын
The Damia player knows how to play a competitive deck. I like it
@namename4903
@namename4903 6 жыл бұрын
man wish i could get all that ramp on turn 1
@eliasmtg4916
@eliasmtg4916 6 жыл бұрын
Any deck techs in the foreseeable future?
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
Depends on if I start to brew something that tickles my fancy. I don't feel very comfortable doing a deck tech on something I haven't played before.
@coltinyancey3671
@coltinyancey3671 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely disgusting, I love it
@cedrikleblanc7579
@cedrikleblanc7579 6 жыл бұрын
Hey do you plan on doing videos of other formats?
@ErasMcras
@ErasMcras 6 жыл бұрын
Don't be Alex.
@Zephewow
@Zephewow 6 жыл бұрын
The one deck i want (will and sis) has no link q.q
@darylchiu9030
@darylchiu9030 6 жыл бұрын
4:31 I thought someone casted Earthquake. :v
@user-tr7ty7ik5w
@user-tr7ty7ik5w 6 жыл бұрын
Also, how did alex make so many squirrels?
@ms.sysbit5511
@ms.sysbit5511 6 жыл бұрын
게이머일곱 번째 색깔 earthcraft. Lets him tap a creature to untap a basic land. Squirrel’s Nest enchants a land in this case a basic. Nest lets you tap the land to make a 1/1. Tap to make squirrel, untap nest’s basic with said squirrel, repeat.
@varygoode
@varygoode 6 жыл бұрын
Alex made thousands of squirrels, tutors, and doesn't cast Concordant Crossroads? I AM CONFUSION
@spencersonnier1
@spencersonnier1 6 жыл бұрын
BOY I LOVE ME SOME REINS OF POWER
@bryanstage9715
@bryanstage9715 6 жыл бұрын
Hooray for Bryan with a y!
@quantumfrankietheory
@quantumfrankietheory 6 жыл бұрын
Love arcades, mine has been putting in work at my lgs
@fullfrontal2860
@fullfrontal2860 6 жыл бұрын
How did he make the army of the squirrels?
@Macattack1023
@Macattack1023 6 жыл бұрын
Earthcraft, he taps the forest enchanted with squirrels nest and makes a squirrel then he taps that squirrel he just made via earthcraft to untap the forest enchanted with squirrels nest and does it again 6999 times! Its a pretty silly good and easy combo for infinite critters.
@118bone
@118bone 6 жыл бұрын
That damia deck pissed me off
@118bone
@118bone 6 жыл бұрын
That trickbind tho
@bluevader13
@bluevader13 6 жыл бұрын
Did I just ear that you said Montreal's store?
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
Yup, I'm in Montreal still. Message me on Facebook if you think you'd be down to join me one evening!
@HavenguI
@HavenguI 6 жыл бұрын
Not enough squirrel tokens
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
That was his undoing!
@brettsutherland8390
@brettsutherland8390 6 жыл бұрын
So happy it ended like that and Alex didn’t win
@Gondor80
@Gondor80 5 жыл бұрын
squirrel horde :O
@Hey_Tk
@Hey_Tk 5 жыл бұрын
I love my domia deck. 😍😍
@Ballpython77
@Ballpython77 6 жыл бұрын
Brado..YUCK!!, i hate him as much as Narset. i had a Brago deck and that thing was so OP, i was bored out of my mind and many times i manage to shut down Narset....O_o
@Speetlebeetle
@Speetlebeetle 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly in what world do you not wait until the opponent who goes before you, end of turn to make the squirrels? He has a ton of money in the deck, but no true knowledge or insight to the basics of the game.
@tommylanders1997
@tommylanders1997 5 жыл бұрын
Its mentioned in the video he was worried about Krosan Grip, which can't be responded to by Earthcraft combo
@lehandroz
@lehandroz 6 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha REINS OF POWAAAHHH!!! I think he would have still been able to make more than 7000 squirrel tokens to block after the Reins of Power hit the board, am I right? The creatures they exchange are untapped, so he could still go infinite tokens after that. Oh well... Great game!
@thiagoennes3690
@thiagoennes3690 6 жыл бұрын
He needs to tap the token to make another token. So he is unable to block
@lehandroz
@lehandroz 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, forgot about that part. My token deck usually has doubling effects, so I overlooked that detail. xD
@MachiriReviews
@MachiriReviews 6 жыл бұрын
Most expensive deck always wins
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 6 жыл бұрын
If that's the case, this is game is not a great example of it.
@klutzmtg2310
@klutzmtg2310 6 жыл бұрын
Please change your intro to "generic goblin noises".
@user-tr7ty7ik5w
@user-tr7ty7ik5w 6 жыл бұрын
Thumbnail look like Splice
@momentofsatori
@momentofsatori 6 жыл бұрын
Reigns is so good
@fishfornicator
@fishfornicator 6 жыл бұрын
Something about chuckle please go back to free domain goblin noise
@nicobourbaki5615
@nicobourbaki5615 6 жыл бұрын
God that laugh is amazing!
@christopherrue4752
@christopherrue4752 6 жыл бұрын
Trickbind….really...
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 6 жыл бұрын
Generic ramp noises
@loui5planks
@loui5planks 6 жыл бұрын
Unsubbed for that cringey goblin laugh.
@loui5planks
@loui5planks 6 жыл бұрын
Was wayyyy better before it had ANY laugh sfx
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