'Damsel' is a Masterpiece

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[@littlewhiterabbit202]

Princess bride meets Dragonheart Take out actual heroes Replace it with narcissist females on a Netflix budget sounds about right

[@goukeban6197]

No Discord?

[@mschoy1597]

Well, the reason the dragon didn't take note of the daughters being of different races is because dragons don't see color/facial features. They are WOKE! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@BlueGreyWolf]

​@@littlewhiterabbit202 - LMAO That's absolutely spot-on! 😂👍

[@disparutoo]

The dragon killed the people that the dragon was blackmailing into doing horrible things. And that's justice 🤣

[@silverscorpio24]

"Sire, we're facing an enormous beast that can breathe fire. Should we really line up in a line and face its front?" "Shut up and die."

[@corb5905]

Sounds like ww1 to me

[@Lionel-Goodfellow]

Yeah, I was in the military, incompetence is rife. That's why we all value veteran soldiers and officers so much, because they learnt stuff that was valuable/useful/lifesaving. Sometimes soldiers are just sent in to die, they are not meant to survive, they are pawns in a larger chess game. But in this case, I am with you, it's Monty Pythonesque dumb hehehehehe

[@TheFatalcrest]

😂 "My lord, did we bring any archers? And Shouldn't we spread out to avoid breathe weapons?"

[@annatardlordofderps9181]

​@@Lionel-Goodfellow Stolen valor isn't cool.

[@Dragnumb55]

They didn’t even bring any shields to help block the fucking fire i know that’s fucking dumb but if you’re not going to bring the right equipment to combat a fucking fire breathing dragon at least put some effort into make us believe that these idiots know what the fuck their doing and the film doesn’t even fucking do that shit

[@tyrannicalchocolate]

The true damsels were the strong independent glowworms we met along the way

[@forsociopoliticalstuff2629]

At this point, having a movie with an actual damsel in distress getting rescued by a handsome brave hero would be refreshing.

[@cynicalperson161]

I can only see that happening if it's a female knight rescuing a prince lol

[@Adamguy2003]

Yeah!

[@elvickRULES]

If love to see a film about an arranged marriage where the girl/young woman. While unhappy with it, accepts it and uses her station to exert power over others. Power isn’t only about stabbing things with a sword or even being the top of the food chain. Sometimes it’s better to have the ear of those in power. I guess FFXVI kind of did this… and I love to hate her.

[@cheesay22]

​@@elvickRULESAssume you mean Nanamo. Such a good character

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

​@@cynicalperson161 that was in Willow

[@literalvampirepotbellygobl5629]

"There are scripts that are written by actual writers, not hacks and activists. This is not one of them."

[@Chasingdreams25]

👌

[@LilLadyAy]

AI

[@HateshWarkio]

@@LilLadyAy AI can actually do better

[@LilLadyAy]

@@HateshWarkio I agree

[@koreancowboy42]

​@@HateshWarkio I think that's where they got their idea. They wrote in Chatgpt "Dragons, medieval castle, Damsel, cult ritual, sacrifice" And boom this is what we got

[@fenicusfro9091]

The scene of her walking away from burning castle looks like every games "bad ending" when you make all the evil choices.

[@AFarmerCalledChicken]

“And so, filled with unbridled hatred, the Princess tore apart the only life she knew. By her hand, the kingdom fell, yet she felt empowered. Soon, she would sow more chaos than ever thought imaginable.”

[@heroawesome8495]

Barbie's princess and the pauper did the whole "I don't want to be in an arranged marriage but it's my duty" thing better.

[@DoodleDude1878]

Preach.

[@JibberJabberYouTube]

Best Barbie movie. No contest.

[@cthonisprincess4011]

Yes, and the movie handles things in a way that allows Princess Annaliese to marry Julian while also providing for her people. Annaliese's discovery of the geodes in the gold mine negates the need for her to marry King Dominic and allows him to marry Erica.

[@cynicalperson161]

I'm glad people are bringing up one of the best Classic Barbie movies ever made.

[@jculver1674]

Also, Dragonslayer did the whole "Princess being sacrificed to the dragon" thing a WHOLE lot better.

[@thatguywesmaranan]

elodie: "that's no reason to marry..." IG girls: "a man's gotta have a 6-figure income to date me..."

[@AkaiSuzume]

Somehow as soon as I heard the title of the movie, I knew the entire plot. Weird isn't it?

[@lexievv]

Jep. My wife was like "oh, I kinda wanted to see this one. Can we watch it?" And I saw the cover and the name and went "let me guess, it's about a princess that saves herself and doesn't need a prince" Then when watching it, as soon as it was clear it was about a dragon I said "wanna bet she makes friends with the dragon at the end" lol

[@annahigarcia1541]

I mean the trailer pretty much spoils what gonna happen anyway

[@ab-gail]

Same lol

[@aesiddoway]

I basically watched the entire movie every time I got the ad 😂

[@spiff1]

lol same

[@1SpicyMeataball]

This had the potential to be something akin to Alien. A lone woman using her wits in a tension filled game of cat and mouse. But instead we get "muh girlboss" and a dragon that they try to make a victim of evil white men when it's been killing innocent young women indiscriminately.

[@robertwoods3871]

There's no such thing as pure villain characters anymore, they have to be "MiSuDeRsToOd"

[@sztallone415]

@@robertwoods3871 correction: only if they are women (female in the case of monsters). Somehow rich men of European ancestry can still be villains.

[@tjroelsma]

That was predictable seeing that Millie Bobby Brown plays the main character. Her shtick is to be the girl boss who's smarter and better than everyone. Look at Enola Holmes for example. In Damsel she basically plays the same character, only in a different setting and it shows: she's almost phoning it in.

[@nont18411]

@@robertwoods3871 Even a quality show like Shogun twisted a female villain into a victim. She’s evil because men forced her to. Meanwhile, male villains are just pure unadulterated assholes. They are evil to the core. Even one of them who’s supposed to be a main antagonist at first was now reduced into a simp of a female villain (And that’s not in the book)

[@dragames]

@@robertwoods3871UNLESS they're a white man.

[@jjjmadness8306]

Gotta love how our Strong Independent HERo basically let the dragon burn down the entire kingdom, killing thousands of innocent lives and leaving the survivors homeless. Truly, people will remember her actions for all time.

[@MajorSmurf]

Don't forget the strong image Damsel walking alone down the bridge... bitch you just helped commit mass murder. If I was in charge of writing sequel, I'd have the surviving knights after her and the dragon for what they did. First scene just a mountain of burned corpses all trying to reach a gate but couldn't because the gate was blocked from a fallen guard tower.

[@sztallone415]

I mean, in the beginning she chopped wood for the people. Now the dragon gave warmth to the people for the rest of their lives, if you catch my drift. Setup and payoff, guys. We're just too dumb to notice it

[@MajorSmurf]

Don't forget the strong image Damsel walking alone down the bridge... which in reality just shows that she just helped commit a mass game over event. If I was in charge of writing sequel, I'd have the surviving knights after her and the dragon for what they did.

[@sztallone415]

@@MajorSmurf this would 100% work as a villain origin story

[@weareharbinger914]

Also likely making the kingdom collapse into either anarchy or civil war, since there is now no leadership and everyone is shitting themselves about the burning castle that the dragon took out.

[@limitlesssoul2882]

Can you imagine a story where the main girl and guy actually hit it off despite of their arrange marriage. And the prince has no clue that his mother was planning to sacrifice his bride out of a misguided attempt to protect her own son. It becomes a story of duality as he attempts to rescue her on his side and she works on escaping. Two sides of the same coin racing against the clock to find one another. ❤😍 Where's that movie?

[@origamipein18]

I'd watch it!

[@TheFatalcrest]

😂 Thats sounds fun! Shame thats exactly why it won't go on Netflix, they are only alloted a set amount if good fun ideas

[@xFlareLeon]

See, there's this novel called Radiance. In it, the unwanted princess of the human kingdom is married off to a strange race of monstrous creatures with grey skin, yellow eyes, sharp teeth and claws. Now, the thing is the prince she's married to is also not the main heir and looked down on by his own family. The two hit it off by negging each other at first and just being friends, but it soon blossoms into a full-on romance. It gets kinda dumb near the end and the sequel ruins everything, but the concept is sound. I recommend the first book at least.

[@origamipein18]

@@xFlareLeonMy teratophilia heart craves this! 😮

[@scottski02]

Read The Alloy of Law by Brandon Sanderson if you want a good story where the arranged marriage couple actually hit it off

[@hezekiahthomas837]

"Man you corny" is the best way to describe this movie

[@BruhMoment-fr4zr]

It describes our entire entertainment industry at this point.

[@TheSouloftheDragon]

Elodie is really cool with the dragon that killed her dad trying to rescue her, but what's the life of a family member to a murdering sociopath?

[@solusvoid4283]

Her dad sold her

[@dragames]

are you kidding me? He was fucking a white male!

[@weareharbinger914]

She didn't even attempt to save her father, despite having her own bag of healing glow worms. And she gets over it almost immediately.

[@Cardinal_claw]

​@@weareharbinger914 He's a white man who chose to sell her to save the people relying on him as a ruler(?), obviously he's completely and totally undeserving of a further thought, certainly not forgiveness and especially not a redemption arc what are you talking about lol But really though, they could've at least have had her try to save him. Also could've made made the dragon an actually capable apex predator by having her sniffer work 100% of the time instead of 48%, but this movie definitely was more about the 'message' and the dressing than anything of actual substance

[@Mrtorquebowguy]

Bruh, not having Angela as the evil queen was such a dropped bag. Could bring it up to a solid 3/10

[@dannyknightblade4592]

Yeah, she could have been like an evil version of her Black Panther character. It's such a missed opportunity.

[@andim.8788]

I am surprised they didnt make her the damsel" we were kings style"

[@daniboy4153]

Damsel is one of those movies that has a lot of potential to be something amazing and almost unique, but the writing really just brings down the concept and you know, "bad movie with a promising concept"

[@nobody2996]

From what I hear, the book version (based on the same premise but written at the same time as the screenplay by a different writer) is actually a lot more interesting.

[@daniboy4153]

@@nobody2996 Maybe I should buy it sometime. Novelizations tend to be great

[@spiff1]

whats the concept? Someone fights a dragon? Never been done before

[@alexman378]

Unique? Really? I was in Nu Boyana Studios in 2022, they were developing something similar at the time, of a girl waiting for the knight to show up, and eventually frees herself from the castle. These things are textbook.

[@tultsi93]

@@spiff1The concept of the damsel saving herself instead of waiting for someone to come to rescue her. That's still new.

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

This movie is immediately shit from the very beginning with the king thinking a handful of dudes charging at full speed towards a dragon’s lair in broad daylight is a sound strategy. A dragon that can fly and breathe fire, and apparently has a high stealth check.

[@TheFatalcrest]

😂 very weird that the dragon flapping and moving around wasn't roarring or making loud wing beats and crushing dudes to show its fury...because then you could argue the king is being frozen with terror at the folly of his plans. ...oh and why wouldn't they send in ten knights, while the king has several men at the ready outside...the knights run in and we see the knights bait the dragon to chase them, killing some, or consuming them as it goes. Shoot make it so the dragon is a *Raid Boss* and it just is that dangerous to slay a dragon. The dragon gets hit with mortal weaponry, catapults, ballistas, spears and arrows, but the kings blade is special so the idea isn't to drop the dragon with the army, its to tire it and bring it to the ground for the king to get the killing blow. But the king locks up after seeing the dragon, and it gets some time to recover and it whips its tail or something to take the sword away and throw it into its cave. And then. The King surrenders.

[@The90sDoggo]

Poor oppressed dragon woman that eats royal girls for breatfast.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

Gives me indigestion just thinking about it. O.-.o

[@CharlesUrban]

Yeah, losing your kids to angry humans is awful, but making them feed you princesses forever afterward is also awful. Should have settled for three princesses (or their equivalent in treasure, as dragons love treasure) and called it even.

[@electricbayonet2]

And is _proudly_ _sadistic_ about it, while her only incorrect assumption is that these girls all have...guilty blood? But no, the only villains in this is the royal family that was driven mad by generations of living under the oppressive claw of a horrible monster holding both them and their kingdom hostage.

[@RandomAnagram.]

And also only burns the kingdom down that wronged her after a twiggy girl boss beat her ass 100 years later cause reasons 🤷‍♀️

[@aesiddoway]

Of Course El-Odious became besties with the dragon that murdered her dad and tried to kill her. That’s how strong the sisterhood is.

[@jaded_gerManic]

Lol! ... sigh.

[@Adamguy2003]

El- Odious, lol!

[@maricruzminter]

She became besties with the beasty😂

[@AA-ed6ek]

Lol true.

[@aquapuppy9838]

It's like the insurance salesman in Family Guy. "Don't you find it odd every time someone's daughter goes off to marry this one same guy, she never comes back?" "No, actually, it seems to happen all the time."

[@joinsideke]

How many nearby kingdoms are there for them to be able to run this scam before someone notices? Sounds like a good way to start a war. Hell, why do they even need an actual princess if they're gonna do the blood thing to trick the dragon into thinking she's from their line anyway?

[@timetravelingshark8811]

@@joinsideke That's what I thought. Why couldn't they just snag some random peasant girl off the streets to be the bride? A few peasant girls going missing will make a lot less of a splash than a few princesses, and it's a lot harder for a peasant family to get revenge than that of a ruling monarch.

[@xel1673]

Gotta love how Elodie is willing to forgive the dragon, who has killed countless people, including the sacrificed girls (toying and torturing some of them to death). She doesn't know what the truth is, but just believes the dragon when she says it was unprovoked. She has no proof that's true. Even if the dragon was tricked, she was still demanding the sacrifice of innocent princesses who had nothing to do with the crimes of their royal ancestor. Would it have all been okay with Elodie if the dragon had actually been killing those innocent daughters of royal blood, as per the agreement? Is it just wrong that it was girls who weren't blood related, thus making the dragon the victim? And then Elodie allows the dragon to kill the prince, who was clearly reluctant and apologized for what he did. He was obviously being coerced by his parents into something he didn't want to do. Much like how Elodie was pushed to agree to a marriage she didn't want thanks to her parents guilting her into it for the sake of their family and people. It would be easy to conclude the prince was also sacrificing her (against his will) to save his family and the people of his kingdom against the wrath of the dragon. Elodie has no idea what story the prince was fed and if he has the truth or not. He also didn't personally cause harm to the dragon or her babies, but her taking out centuries old grudge against him for the actions of his ancestors is fine? Elodie didn't even give him a chance at life and redemption. The only one who should have died was the queen and maybe the king (for all we know he married into the family against his wishes and is basically just a royal consort with no power). And all the people (nobility to even servants in the palace) had no choice but follow the will of their monarchs. But they get burned and melted to death, too, for the crime of being powerless under their queen's will? Even if some survive, their kingdom has fallen, which will undoubtedly lead to much misery and many deaths, from the remaining nobility right down to the poorest of peasants. Neighbors will be turning on neighbors as social order collapses and it is every man for himself. Because why would ANY of the people want to follow Elodie and her family? She's a bloody killer and psycho. Even if the people disliked the monarchy (which we have no evidence they did), Elodie is from a different kingdom with no connections there and she basically murdered the royalty she married in to. Although, did any of the citizens know she was married to the prince? Since even they would find it weird and rumors would easily spread if he's going through princess-wives like toilet paper. But Elodie has nothing about her that would make the people rally under her (unless she uses the dragon to demand loyalty, so rule out of fear). And if she murdered much of the nobility present at the wedding at the palace, then how is she going to manage or protect the kingdom from other kingdoms? Her shitshow little kingdom looks very different from the kingdom she's basically conquered. And if Elodie is just going to skip off on her ship with her dragon, is she really just going to leave her step-mom and sister in charge? The former not even being an educated or adquately experienced royal (rather the daughter of a rope-maker with no previous training in politics, decorum, economics, diplomacy, etc) and the latter being a child-princess with even less experience or maturity. Neither of them could run a kingdom alone or together. They certainly don't have any allies within the kingdom for them to rely on. I can't see them surviving long before someone else rolls up to commit the next coup during Elodie's absence. Make their death's look like an accident and you've got yourself a new king and/or queen! But at least a sadistic, man-eating dragon and Elodie got their revenge. Nobody wins!

[@sarahb.7175]

If this is what dragons are like in this world, then killing the baby dragons was 100% justified. Neutralize the threat while it's weak, nip it in the bud, prevent maturation and reproduction.

[@joinsideke]

"They fooled you. You've been killing innocent daughters just like they did." She was always killing innocent daughters! Even if they really were the offending king's descendants, they would still be innocent. They didn't kill her babies. This is so fucking stupid. They want you to sympathize with the dragon who had willingly been eating girls who had nothing to do with anything. It's not she like was tricked into being a murderer, she just ate the wrong kind of innocent people. You know you can be like, "Yeah, it's not right what happened to your kids, but you've become just as bad (if not worse) than the people who wronged you and you need to go." But instead, Princess Girlboss teams up with the dragon that had actively been terrorizing her and killed her dad, because she's kind and merciful! Oh wait.

[@joinsideke]

The dragon should have been more like an animal rather than human level intelligent. And the prince should have been one to show remorse for his actions and come (and fail) to rescue Elodie, while her father should have just been clueless.

[@nont18411]

Are you sure Millie’s character is named Elodie, not Ellie? And the dragon wasn’t named Abby?

[@benjaminthibieroz4155]

I get she would be pissed off being tricked and burn the kingdom as a punishement. But what would she need the princess for, exactly. She could just eat her for a snack and carry on with the burning thing right the same. But for some reason she instantly grow a human moral conscience after centuries of merciless murdering? She's supposed to be a DRAGON. As a wise man said :" some beings can't be bribed, reasoned with or soothed, they just want to watch the world burn."

[@TheGuruStud]

Time for scissoring! ​@@nont18411

[@gryffen9608]

Completely true. It's not just they wanted to 'girlboss,' they wanted to "subvert" and 'expose The Patriarchy!" All they did was actually expose their own corrupt morality. They're disgusting as people in charge of a movie. Imagine these people in charge of a country. About the plot, I hold that it COULD have been a good story in the hands of a good author. In fact, I could think of so many ways this could have been written into a much better story. Here's one. How about when Elodie and the prince talk and get to know each other more, then prince truly grows to like her to the point he finds he can't let be sacrificed. In the short moments they had, they showed one of the reasons he was distant was because he didn't want to get involved with someone he knew he was going to help sacrifice. So how about this for a twist? After he throws her down, there's a pause where you see it from his perspective. She falls. He knows she's still alive and injured. The guilt starts to eat at him. The others try to affirm it's all proper and good, and that this is ONLY way. Then he turns to them, and simply says, "No." And then he quietly steps off the ledge to share whatever fate with Elodie. Imagine a tale where Elodie has to overcome her own outrage and her own misgivings. Imagine a tale where in the end, both have to trust each other completely in order to escape. But no. Sigh. I am so tired of this "subvert" crap.

[@heikira438]

If it wasn't for Jennifer Lawrence, this would have been the first female action star.

[@2st486]

Barbarella eat your heart out!

[@QuatrinaVR]

Enchanted did this twist better when Giselle grabbed the sword to save Robert on the spire of the building from the witch-turned-dragon

[@DoodleDude1878]

Cause Giselle was a likeable protagonist the whole movie lol. She was a sweet woman who developed a genuine love for Robert. She also was willing to sacrifice herself to save him, without moaning about it. A very noble act. Unlike this broad who is moaning that she has to do her duty as an heir to royalty.

[@sarahb.7175]

What an underrated gem that movie was... IMO it's aged like a good wine.

[@elvickRULES]

3:40 for a "starving" kingdom their clothes sure look clean. They couldn't have people roll around in mud or something. Dirt is free.

[@alexman378]

That’s something I’ve noticed with every Netflix production. Everything looks *clean* and sterilized as hell.

[@sorackamet5558]

@@alexman378 not just netflix, disney star wars has that problem too. A lot o shows has that problem for some reason. BBC's Merlin had a fraction of the budget of all these productions and yet it manages to look more authentic.

[@alexman378]

@@sorackamet5558 I’m thinking period shows like Vikings, Peaky Blinders, Black Sails, they all had a look to them that sold you they were from another time. This looks like fan made cosplay by a kid with a large trust fund.

[@RHBR01]

That's become so ridiculously common in a lot of period/fantasy films and shows recently. If you pay attention, a lot of the characters are wearing clothing that's suspiciously clean and new-looking for the time/place/setting.

[@AnimaVox_]

Contrary to popular belief, medieval people tried to keep as clean as possible (yes, I know this is fantasy, but it's inspired by the middle ages). They weren't covered in dirt and grime for the most part, and male manual laborers would even strip down to the bare essentials when working fields to preserve their attire. People would also keep wash basins and barrels at the ready to wipe their faces and wash their hands. I think these costumes feel out of place because the clothing doesn't look like it's been worn. It's too crisp. A way to fix this could be to just have the actors or anyone else wear the outfits around beforehand to break them in. Or tumble the costumes in the wash or something.

[@Hollendaryy4064]

Fuck that. Chopping wood is a poor person thing. I wouldn’t expect royalty to be able to do it at all

[@lucymiau5700]

Wood will be chopped near by the house and not in the wilderness. The writers never even tried it to understand why such kind of job is done by the peasents and not by the royalty.

[@Hollendaryy4064]

@@lucymiau5700 They shouldn’t have made her family royalty. A random poor settlement would’ve made more sense. Royalty never really married peasants, but this movie has a dragon that breathes magma so it wouldn’t be the craziest thing to happen XD It would explain a bit more why she’s so capable.

[@imjustbeinghonest2994]

You are correct. Even in small kingdoms, the royal family has servants and workers that tend to the castle and do menial tasks for the people, like gathering fire wood to sell off. This movie just wanted to "show" why Elodie is "so physically strong and capable", even if it doesn't make sense for her to be doing this. The writers couldn't even do show don't tell correctly.

[@MajorSmurf]

@@Hollendaryy4064 Actually I was thinking about this. First off it would be far less suspicious if random peasant girls were being kidnapping from settlements all over the place instead of high ranking nobility that no-one ever sees again. Honestly a princesses going missing would cause so much hostile tensions between countries it's unreal to think about. Like once the kingdom providing the bride gets the money, what's stopping them from using it to build up an army in revenge for their daughter? There is no way dragon nation would back out of deal like that as no country would ever trade or deal with them. Rumours would spread like wild fire about how untrustworthy that kingdom is. A peasant going missing would be like a common enough occurrence. Nobility going missing is huge news and could cause all kinds of problems including things like civil war back home for the brides country. Secondly the marriage isn't even required. It's the blood from the prince or royalty that the dragon is smelling to let her know it's royalty. Thirdly why the fuck would the royal family of this dragon feeding nation even discuss the truth with the brides family, what happens if they say no? They would bring guards with them and killing them all would have all sorts of problems. Like you don't think a brother or sister of the king or queen of the brides nation is going to be suspicious when they don't come back? Also yes Elodie is from a poorer country so they needed the money but you're telling me there was never a just or noble father or mother who gave them the middle finger? Honestly you could poke so many holes in this films it's not even funny.

[@aaronlambert9297]

Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany chopped wood as a hobby with his one good arm. It's estimated he cut down nearly 40,000 trees in his lifetime. During the time he spent in the Netherlands where he sought asylum after WW I he was well known for giving the local poor people firewood he cut himself. So there is at least one...... If you keep looking you can find more especially in countries and kingdoms where physical strength and outdoor activities were prized.

[@13JackDiamond]

J is just jealous because she's too much of a strong, independent white male to be in the lead role as John Damsel. She needs to be written more poorly, complain about the patriarchy, and have tons of plot armor to stand a chance of getting the part.

[@gullydantes5607]

Yes to please the black woman. We all know that black women do not have interesting folklore of their own . Only maybe about slavery by their own kind and rape. 😅

[@laughuntilidie]

Elodie WAS a damsel in distress. She was saved by magical FKN glow worms!

[@nickelakon5369]

Wait a minute By killing the prince at the end Aren't they essentially saying that victims of abuse that hurt other people are irredeemable and deserve to die horribly?

[@jothecocopop]

They are if they're MEN 🤦🏾‍♀🥴

[@liliesaregoodfortheliver2954]

Just like in the real world!

[@5050TM]

Yes.

[@cartooncritique6625]

Yeah, pretty much. Sins of the Father and all that crap.

[@optimascrime5235]

Milly bobby Brown and Henry Cavil have to fire their agents

[@INMRuben]

Milly Bobby Brown is a producer here. She is here because she wants. All the movies she made are all about "women srtong", so yeah...

[@optimascrime5235]

@INMRuben From the late 70's to roughly around the 2010's we had a good balance of strong woman with great writing and character flaws that made us sympathise with them and shows that being perfect isn't possible but growing as a person is, That's what sucks about modern writing.....Sure there's good writing and movies and shows here and there but Studio's push gender and sexuality rather then actral character and it's not like it's impossible for good representation and character at the same time we've seen it before, but it's easier to get inexperienced writers and directors because thier cheaper and have to be yes men to the Studios and producers

[@HenryLeslieGraham]

who gave her the money to produce this dumpster fire????? and did he/she/they really think allowing her to produce such a dumpster fire WOULD produce a profit????????

[@optimascrime5235]

@HenryLeslieGraham I'm sure it's more so Netflix's decision, because besides one or two good thing's(Mainly in animation)Netflix has been known to greenlight some stinkers

[@andim.8788]

What if it the same agent

[@tultsi93]

"She's now become a royal blood." Isn't she in royalty already? She's a goddamn princess!

[@Zelda00Gamer]

That’s through a legal wedding process. Last I checked dragons don’t sense human legalities with their nose but what do I know 😂 This movie is shit but the blood thing at least attempts to make it make a tiny ounce of sense.

[@lynnusuk2092]

The fact that the dudes didn’t prepare an entire siege against the dragon and just decided screw it let’s potentially cause generations of wars with other countries by killing princesses on mass. On top of not spending the time to develop something to kill the dragon.

[@benjaminthibieroz4155]

Yes. You'd think a kingdom that has entire centuries at their disposal would research into ways to get rid of the dragon (since theye exist in this world and are a calamity, you would expect some people being able to dispose of them with tricks, poison, special weapons or whatever). But hell, let's just sit on their as*es and hope for the best.

[@TheFatalcrest]

😂 that kingdoms civilization map is surrounded by solider units and all the diplomacy markers are declarations of war.

[@thomasloney612]

The just needed to find the right capable woman to throw down there and figure out how to take out the dragon.

[@MajorSmurf]

Ya know what annoys and amazes me... this same premise about a monster out for revenge was done with far more uniqueness and far more epic about 1000+ years ago. The tale of Beowulf which got an animated film with a actual twist on the original tale a few years back. For those who don't know the original tale. A monster is causing harm in a fiefdom or village so Beowulf and his team hear of this and go off to help to deal with the problem. The monster Grendel is defeated by Beowulf but not easily, in the poem it's described as no sword could pierce his skin. So it required Beowulf to actually rip and tear it's arm off. Grendel ran off and died in his home. As you can imagine Grendel's mother was furious and takes revenge by slaughtering the men she found while they slept in the great hall with Beowulf being away at the time. Beowulf comes back and with help tracks the mother down. Yet again another fight breaks out between the two and Beowulf wins again not without actual effort to do it. She almost killed him but in the end he wins. Why is this version of the premise better? Well first off it doesn't paint the mother of Grendel as right for what she did unlike Damsel painting the dragon as just some poor victim. Yes her children being killed was possibly a wrong. I say possibly because they are fire breathing monsters and they likely do not share a human morality. Hell we are even shown that it doesn't with the dragon wanting a lifetimes supply of kings daughters delivered to her every generation. Who are innocent of any wrong doing at least towards the dragon. So the dragon has a very warped sense of justice/morality. Could you live with a dragon living close by that has shown how cruel it is? Knowing that it might just plunk you up one day? Or burn your entire kingdom down, killing thousands of innocents? Which is exactly what we're shown at the end of the film. Damsel is the only one on the bridge so everyone else burned to death even those she told to run... She also couldn't have informed an entire castle of the threat. Also curious why there are no alarm bells or anything in case the dragon does attack. But of course that would require writers to apply actual logic to their work. Final fact even Tolkien did his own version of Beowulf. So yeah as you can see anyone claiming this premise is unique is well beyond moronic. When they say Hollywood and other writers are out of ideas, they're not wrong.

[@badlaamaurukehu]

Chrichton's Eaters of the Dead is another well done adaptation that also inspired the 13th Warrior movie.

[@ShadesOfKnight]

The best bit about this film is how willfully they gloss over the fact that the killing of the dragon children was revenge for the mom laying waste to the land, and the children would surely do the same. But no. The king was the bad guy you see. Because he has dangly bits.

[@axolotl1777]

You didn't watch the movie or didn't paid attention

[@origamipein18]

You sound like Disparu.

[@ShadesOfKnight]

@@axolotl1777 I did pay attention. I also know whether to use paid or pay in the sentence.

[@axolotl1777]

@@ShadesOfKnight when you speak more than one language grammatical errors are bound to happen but you wouldn't know about that. Also 🤓.

[@axolotl1777]

@@ShadesOfKnight when you speak more than one language grammatical errors are bound to happen but you wouldn't know about that. Also 🤓.

[@livelybubbs6242]

The dragon would have been a far more interesting character if: 1- she DID attack and carry off people and livestock, BUT she did it to feed her hatchlings. And have it so that the dragon’s morality doesn’t align with the morality of a human. What’s chaos to the fly is natural to the spider. And the reason that the dragon is just…stuck in a cave is because she’s been crippled by the king’s army. And the sacrifices aren’t to keep the kingdom safe, but it’s to prolong the dragon’s life and her suffering. Or 2- the dragon is actually one of the hatchlings that survived and witnessed her family’s deaths. She kills indiscriminately because she’s blinded by hate. The reason she’s in the cave is because she’s an adolescent and can’t fly yet, as dragons mature slowly. The dragon could be a cautionary tale about letting the pain of the past consume you (like fire and *magma* 😱) and/or a lesson about forgiving someone for your own good or something

[@magnaremora]

10 dudes vs a Dragon. This assault was calculated, but man these guys suck at math.

[@benjaminthibieroz4155]

"Nuke it from orbit, that's the only way to be sure."

[@zandorvorkov7257]

You know, if I were a movie exec and someone came to me with a pitch like, "It's a clever deconstruction of--", I'd immediately tell them to get the fuck out.

[@TheFatalcrest]

😂 "Wait come on-everyone else listened ti this!"

[@ostatnifajek128]

I believe it was Tolkien who said "If you have to deconstruct something in order to understand it, you already failed."

[@tjo178]

They could have at least showed her how to swing an axe. Even in that short clip, you can see her right hand is choked way up on the handle when it comes down on the CG log. A woman absolutely can do it but, man or woman, it needs decent technique.

[@Cardinal_claw]

This honestly. They're getting paid quite a lot to not know how to do something and do absolutely zero research

[@elvickRULES]

So being a damsel is bad, but the SISTER ended up being a damsel too and she didn't rescue herself so... ?? Also for a girlboss she got an awful lot of help and instruction until the undeserved climactic moments where she suddenly isn't a moron for no apparent reason.

[@esemicolonr]

The How To Train Your Dragon remake is looking fire

[@kylefrank638]

Wait so the stepmother is on board with marrying off the daughter, but then once SHE has been personally insulted by their soon-to-be-in-laws, that's when she shifts gears and places all the blame on the father for arranging this? That's... not very nice!

[@swagman2250]

There are many stories of chivalry, where the heroic knight saves the damsel in distress. This is not one of them. By that she means she is not heroic, booyah!

[@anasol772]

JLongbone is a universal treasure

[@LegaLImmigrnt]

The funniest thing about this movie is that not a single person on the whole crew knew how to swing an axe. BRINGS YOUR HANDS TOGETHER MILLY!

[@jimberjamber8540]

I know Millie Bobbie Brown is British, but her American accent sounds more real than her actual accent. Is she real?

[@ostatnifajek128]

She's a female Hardin 😅

[@hothotheat3000]

I think she was putting on an accent in this, it doesn’t sound like her natural speaking voice.

[@ostatnifajek128]

The Hardin effect 😆

[@ian-flanagan]

I think it's because the accent is "Fantasy British" while the vocabularly is contemporary US. Just......... eughh

[@ostatnifajek128]

@@ian-flanagan This!

[@kingagrabowska9366]

I hate how movies preach how awful arranged marriages are for women but never mention men. Do the movie makers think they want to get together with a stranger, especially when it's an irresponsible, stupid, psycho who is completely incapable of empathy? Even in better movies, it's a problem. Jasmine from Aladdin doesn't know about paying and pissed off a prince of another country by having her pet tiger bite him. In Brave they almost go to war over it and it's treated as a joke.

[@David_the_Psalmist]

My guess is that they focus on the fact that throughout history, most marriages would have been arranged by men (though probably not the groom-to-be). That gives them the impression that arranged marriages are something done by men to women, making them not just bad by default, but bad for the women. Which might explain why Jasmine just casually commits an act of war. Disney's never really understood medieval geopolitics, but hey, at least Aladdin's not as bad as Frozen in that regard.

[@ab-gail]

Check out the musical “Twisted” if you want to see that Aladdin plot point done right. 😄👍

[@alzaelnext638]

Because the foundation of feminist thought is that all of society is setup by men for the express purpose of subjugating and oppressing women for their benefit. So in their minds there is no such thing as something that is truly bad for men. Or,if it is, it's only as an unintended consequence.

[@albatross4920]

Twisted is beyond hilarious 😂 ​@@ab-gail

[@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917]

Thinking on it, The Simpsons might have actually done it better. "You're very pretty, but I don't know if I want to be married to someone I've never met." "We can always get a divorce if it doesn't work out." "Of course, why didn't I think of that?"

[@MasterJediDude]

Hollywood Writer: Let’s steal the plot from Dragonslayer, except add the tough-girl attitude from Joey King’s “The Princess!” And cast Millie Bobby Brown in it, so she can smirk and do her “Eleven stare” at the audience. Add a dash of woke and a dusting of “I don’t need no man!” Presto! It’s fit for “modern” audiences.

[@madamefluffy4788]

Hold on - the dragon can shoot magma (molten lava!) from her throat - but she gets burned if said lava lands on her scales? How does that work?

[@rovertkralc1]

Really, REALLY thick mucus on the inside? Lmao

[@JibberJabberYouTube]

She's fine when there's a tempest in her, but once it gets out into the patriarchal society, it becomes toxic masculinity.

[@benjaminthibieroz4155]

- Dragons in LITTERALLY EVERY SETTING: totally immune to fire - This movie: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that...

[@gbindahouse94]

Hi there, Gbindahouse94, Devil's Advocate. I suspect they treat dragon's breath in a similar manner to human stomach acid, in that though it can sit comfortably in your stomach without any harm, a reflux that brings it up has a tendency to burn your throat. Extrapolate that with fantasy flair and voila, Dragon burns herself. ...would have been nice if that was established IN the film mind you.

[@Arphemius]

@@gbindahouse94 Yeah, but in this case it's meant to leave your throat. Surely acid reflux wouldn't cause damage if you could use acid spitting as a weapon. And presumably her scales would be tougher than her insides, if anything. Stomach acid doesn't do much to our skin either. Also, the dragon consistently follows the path of the princess as she's hunting her, several times directly through the path of the lava she just spewed out. If she can be burned by her own flames, wouldn't that also have burned her?

[@grandarkfang_1482]

17:07 There's a reason why every adult Dragon in DND has a high Perception skill.

[@grandarkfang_1482]

When a woman decides to shirk responsibilities to her kingdom, that means it is not illegal.

[@charlesruteal9062]

Perfectly placed Despot/Nixon reference.

[@ab-gail]

Lol

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

"Poke her in the uterus" LOOL! Also, after all this, Elodie not only heals the Dragon but invited her back home. After she killed her father... and those knights who she also probably knew.

[@MajorTomFisher]

If this kingdom had bothered to invent the revolutionary technology known as the SPEAR they would've killed this stupid dragon

[@benjaminthibieroz4155]

impenetrable scales go brrrr....

[@MajorTomFisher]

@@benjaminthibieroz4155 A spear has a better chance of getting in-between scales or into holes like the eyes, nose, mouth, or dragonussy

[@benjaminthibieroz4155]

@@MajorTomFisher That's true, but considering the beast I'm not sure it would make much of a difference.

[@SlightlyPeeved]

⁠@@benjaminthibieroz4155 are we certain the scales are impenetrable? the dragon’s skin isn’t even fire proof, so with the movie’s logic a spear might just work yet (it just might need to be use by a girl boss to work though lol)

[@ExoGhost]

​​@@benjaminthibieroz4155 The dragon got badly injured by a princess with a sword and was limping. You're telling me that a hundred knights with spears can't beat it? Come on

[@chaseryans4808]

For some reason, out of everything wrong with this film, the two things that grated on me the most were Millie Brown’s nigh-caricaturish “Posh British Accent”, and the way the dragon stayed in the air despite flying at the pace of a tiny girl dramatically slow-walking.

[@silverscorpio24]

Millie Bobby Brown's gonna need to eat more sandwiches (hand made, of course) before I believe she can lift a sword.

[@coltonwilkie241]

All those dirty carrots and trying to get with Drake isn't doing her any good in the physique department.

[@travtotheworld]

Netflix should make a fairytale movie where they subvert the traditional tropes and instead of having a brave knight save a princess instead the princess actually ends up being the hero. If that sounds unoriginal and exactly like what you just watched, then it will be perfect for Netflix.

[@benjaminthibieroz4155]

What about a fairytale where the princess isn't automatically an innocent oppressed victim and the prince ins't automatically either a perfect hero or an a*hole but instead they're just people reluctantly married for duty reasons and have to work together to resolve a grave issue as an actual couple of rulers? I'm wishing for too muc, aren't I?

[@jannisschaefer5776]

I think the "birds" as you called them were supposed to be bats instead. That's why they be squeaking not chirping.

[@ministryofwrongthink6962]

Don’t ban me, but I think if they weren’t up their own feminist meat canyons, flesh out the twist to actually make sense, made the dragon not talk, and featured an actual frail and weak woman having a legitimate character arc to become a believable bad ass - I could actually see this movie being legit

[@xFlareLeon]

I mean... isn't she shown to be weak and not all that smart? She gets injured, struggles, is shown in moments of weakness... aside from some girlbossing and the dumb magic healing worms, this wasn't that bad.

[@James_Bee]

The magma would not only melt the ice instantaneously, unlike in the film, but because it's MAGMA, it would also instantaneously heat the water into steam and probably would have caused a huge explosion.

[@Sarahonwheels]

I didn’t even watch the trailer and I instantly knew what was going on as soon as the king got the letter

[@Alex_Fahey]

7:13 If that's a maze she is working on, then she is absolutely awful. From the parts visible, it seems all of the maze is a single path connecting to the center circle and presumably the exit out of the maze. There are no branches and only a single curved path to follow. That drawing is a maze in the same way that a car is a hot dog.

[@Dumbledoresarmy13]

I feel like every thing I've seen her in she's playing a similar character, I hope she isn't just getting typecast

[@dragonmaster1360]

@Dumbledoresarmy13 I would think one would hope it IS a typecast situation, and she's being pushed into these roles... To hope otherwise is to hope she's a terrible actress who can only play one role. 🤔

[@marvelousmia]

damsel and enola are similar but stranger things is different.. and i haven’t seen godzilla

[@ian-flanagan]

Independent, stoic, intelligent female....? Isn't the whole of big budget Hollywood being typecast with that?

[@ab-gail]

The movie just ends with mass murder. What in the world.

[@tdata545]

You bring up an EXCELLENT POINT, every GIRL BOSS movie ends with them looking like the biggest POS. Only a SOCIOPATH would think this is noble. I can't think of one GUY BOSS movie where they would have the HERO just destroy a whole village and play it as if he's justified and badass. Any movie that has that kind of ending, with a male lead would play it as him losing and it would be a dark ending, about letting evil and revenge consume you. EVEN RAMBO didn't go after the families of the Officers that messed him up. JUST THE OFFICERS.

[@peterjanssen5901]

The glowing worms. Some how I had hoped they talk, like the worm from Labyrinth.

[@ian-flanagan]

'Ello!

[@DarthDevorin]

This film used the same playbook as Mulan 2020. And is suffering the same fate.

[@AscendantStoic]

She said "It's damseling time" and then she damseled all over the place 😅

[@weareharbinger914]

I think the best part of her father coming back and being killed is she could have healed him with the magic glow worms, but just watched him die instead. And i love the dragon isn't immune to the thing it spews out, apparently its insides are fireproof, including its throat and head, but not on the outside! Even when it walked through its own fire magma or whatever earlier.

[@mercaius]

"The people you killed weren't innocent. By which I mean they were always innocent but they weren't blood-related either. *turns and stares into the camera* You can still be guilty by blood, W H I T E P E O P L E."

[@ceceria6673]

The twist here makes me appreciate Goblin Slayer and the brutal way it handles slaying monsters' babies.

[@DierdreWolf]

So..I'm sure there's many but I just saw one big ass plot hole while watching this : When the Dad shows up to "rescue" her -- shouldnt the Dragon be able to NOT smell the 'Royalty' (for the blood ritual thing they do before tossing the girls down) on him and put two and two together? Hey, your blood doesn't smell like her blood, you dont have the Royalty - but your her Father? Huh, maybe shits fucked. Nah? Ok. Carry on Netflix.

[@ab-gail]

Deus Ex Glow Worms. Great writing.

[@Tina_Bo_Binaaa]

This was made like 20 years too late. We’ve seen this story done so many times already and much better at that. Game of thrones had its time. We didn’t need to see that again.

[@jacquelineking5783]

Hell Shrek was a better subversion at fairy take tropes.

[@jennapecor1865]

“Everybody is starving, no one has any money….is this kingdom run by sir Biden?” 😂😂😂😂😂

[@livmashupmansen191]

This is vaguely like “Ready Or Not,” but Grace was so much smarter trying to outrun her captors.

[@nickmccabe4769]

The whole damsel in distress trope is actually less common and less popular that what people actually believe. It's a "dead unicorn" trope. Ask anyone to name several films, books or TV series that actually has it and you'd struggle to name enough to warrant it being caller a cliche.

[@mitchuprise]

You have the best laugh. I love your movie reviews. Omg Batgirl. Shit had me cracking up everytime

[@farmgirlrebel1333]

Two things I did really like: 1. Glow Worms, I just love those squishy glowy things 2. Elodie gets yeeted off the cliff...I almost clapped.

[@RanMouri82]

I love that J and Disparu noticed pretty much all the same crap in this, just with different attitudes.

[@Meerschweinchenweitwurfchamp]

Do they explain, why they sacrifice princesses? Would he really dumb to piss of other kingdoms and having to pay them, when you just could throw a slave or even just some pigs down there😅

[@dragonmaster1360]

@Meerschweinchenweitwurfchamp One can infer it's because, if they don't, the dragon will destroy the kingdom. Presumably.

[@joinsideke]

They somehow made a deal with the dragon that they would give her their daughters, since they killed her babies, in exchange for the dragon leaving them alone. But since they were actually grabbing other people's princesses and doing the blood ritual to trick the dragon, no, they did not need to use actual princesses. Could have just been using peasants.

[@patrolpilot3756]

"Is this land run by Sir Biden?" 😂🤣😂🤣

[@tdata545]

"She looks like pure f king evil, but she's cool." LOL, I have this exact same issue with my dutch shepherd pound puppy, who LUNGES AT PEOPLE, is all black, looks like a problem, is rather physically large for her breeds at 26/27in and likes to stalk and sneak up on people to then lick the back of their kneecaps. It's kind of a major problem. She doesn't understand that she reads like a big scary attack dog like her breeds say she should be. She's Dutch Shepherd, Malinois, Black Lab, Pitbull, German Shepherd, CHOW CHOW, and other; four of those 5 breeds I've listed are PROTECTION BREED DOGS. Yet she is literally the sweetest girl ever. She does do therapy work at hospitals and nursing homes. So, there is that.

[@TheJman669]

On the topic of the opening battle, this is an example of someone who doesn't know how battles work. When you are battling men you can use a line formation and a static battle line, when you are fighting a flying fire breathing beast you need ranged heavy weapons and superior numbers. Not you and your top 10 knights getting stomped out in record time.

[@CannonRaw]

I get more enjoyment watching reviews of this movie than watching it. Mostly because the remarks are like what a friend would say when watching it.

[@Slif1988]

The movie forgets that the families sold their daughters to be sacrificed. Why is the royal family being treated like the only ones in the wrong.

[@robotchicken6706]

I have to walk by the movies poster everyday when I go to work and it never ceases to be funny

[@artisttjan]

I know that the plot is bad but women can in fact chop wood well 🤣 however they never make the actresses work out to achieve the physique necessary to do what we're suppose to believe they're doing. Which is literally anti feminist because they're trying to uphold beauty standards while writing a character that's suppose to be badass.

[@LembeckIsStaying]

Yep.

[@Nepafarius]

There are several common complaints about this movie, so I ask instead: What does the dragon eat? A several ton dragon has to eat a lot, and if it at any point the local fauna or even worse the kingdom's cattle or horses were its victims, then the human attack couldn't possibly be unprovoked. I know perspective bias on the dragon's part comes into play in their lines, but it is also a central premise of the movie that the dragon is innocent. This movie seems to think a massive predator living and hunting in your vicinity isn't cause enough to remove it through force and cull any population growth. Humanity has exterminated entire species that were an existential threat to our lives, eg lions. We have also reduced populations of wolves when they threatened our food supply. It is nonsense to think a dragon living next door is a tenable situation. "But the dragon was sentient! It could be reasoned with!" DID THEY KNOW THAT BEFOREHAND?! I don't recall a line in which the dragon talks to the kingdom _before_ the assault on its lair. So a giant, potentially mindless monster resides in a local mountain and either hunts local fauna or steals livestock that could feed the kingdom. The king is a big bad for culling the children that would increase the predator's population and food requirements threefold. Also this problem doesn't just go away with the blood pact. You're telling me that for YEARS a dragon has been flying around and there has been no loss of life or livelihood such that another campaign to slay it was demanded? It took one completely untrained yet supernaturally competant girl to mortally wound it, a planned, concerted effort by the evil kingdom would've worked.

[@ClingyKiwi]

7:27 caught me off guard and I spat out my quesadilla xD great video. glad my friend sent this to me

[@zacheonodom7364]

But girls get it done Jlongbone, why you out here trying to make sense with your LOGIC and COMMON SENSE? What’s wrong with you Also P.S. someone clip J riding that horse😂

[@VueiyVisarelli]

45:22 "It's one of those Netflix movies that just *drags on* for too long." 😏 *DRAGs........ON...* ...I'll see myself out.

[@aceface5188]

*Seinfeld theme*

[@hothotheat3000]

There’s a LOT of ADR in this movie. Count how many times a line of dialogue happens where you don’t see the lips moving. That tells me this thing was even WORSE and they tried to salvage it in post production.

[@iivin4233]

All those Spartan and crusader wives who made sure shit got done: "Oh, no I didn't swing a sword. Right, so fuck me then?"

[@alexman378]

They weren’t feminists and as such, they were both competent and intelligent enough to know their strengths.

[@lepospondyl]

1. Ray Winstone’s accent sounds so out of place when everyone around him is trying to sound posh. Shouldn’t his family sound more like he does? 2. The whole Royal blood plot is so dumb. Why go to the trouble of arranging a marriage with a noble family if all you need is a blood transfusion to convince the dragon that she’s the kings daughter? You could throw anyone down there. I would not be shocked if an earlier version of the script had the princess being sacrificed by her own mother without the arranged marriage plot device. That would make more sense thematically. 3. Ray Winstone doesn’t hesitate at all to try and rescue Elodie from the dragon despite just selling her into an arranged marriage for money. You would think he’d be a bit more conflicted considering how much he needs that money. 4. Elodies fighting skills come out of nowhere. This could have easily been demonstrated in the opening by showing her train instead of chop wood. 5. That dragon was stupid as hell. Why make a dragon intelligent if you are going to give it a negative iq?

[@stephenlanuto5993]

J gave her a proper name... El Odie... she is truly wise

[@marcusaurelius5149]

I loved the movie "Dragon Slayer". It's a timeless classic. There are many timeless fantasy classics. The movie "Damsel" is not one of them.

[@marychocolatefairy]

Yes, I like Dragonslayer as well. The 80s was a good decade for fantasy films- The Princess Bride, Ladyhawke, Neverending Story, Labyrinth, Willow, Legend, Krull, etc. Hollywood seems to have lost the knack for writing it.

[@annatardlordofderps9181]

If I had a nickel for every time a girlboss ended numerous innocent people with a dragon, I would have 3 nickels... which isnt very much but its strange its happened 3 times.

[@bahaawadallah8456]

The dragon killed the girl that she told to run away 😂

[@anomonyous]

I used to think you were American. But as a modern European man, I am now convinced you must be from a long lineage probably from a neighbouring ancient European ethnicity. Good to know.