Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 PC System Requirements Analysis

[@alentanor]

Microsoft Flight Similator 2026 PC requirments: Bring your own damned plane!

[@elgamingamer6328]

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[@gcampagn]

Hahahahaha! Good one! Hahahahaha!

[@smallcube-zn2mm]

Boeing plane suggested

[@johnwilliam8366]

@@smallcube-zn2mm Airbus plane suggested!

[@thetruth3514]

So funny 😂

[@spacemonkey2665]

oh boy. i should definitely download more RAM and overclock my bandwidth from the bios

[@fussyfez]

please link best site for RAM download

[@spacemonkey2665]

@@fussyfez ok but be secretive about it. RAM manufacturers hate this trick

[@EMLrepair]

And If your CPU is unlocked you should be able play with the multiplier, lets say you have a quad core CPU, put the multiplier on 2X and now you have an octa-core, on 3X twelve cores and so on😀

[@spacemonkey2665]

@@EMLrepair bro my CPU is unlocked, then i unlocked it even more for better access

[@Rickk69er]

How do you download ram? You have to purchase it and install it. There's no download

[@B.D.E.]

They laughed when I bought 64Gb DDR6800. Now it's my turn.

[@leviathan5207]

and rightfully so

[@taylorhickman84]

Adobe lightroom will eat it all

[@flightsimnerd5151]

True I got ripped apart when I did a new build 1 year ago and said I had 64 gigs.. who's laughing now. Lol

[@michaelshafer2996]

I went 48gb now i need more 😕

[@EliteInfiniteAI]

Man I have 8 gigs of DDR3 RAM

[@lesserlogic9977]

Finally my 64 GB of RAM is worthwhile, well kinda

[@handlemonium]

well you're gonna want 64 gigs or more from now on cuz AMD iGPUs are gonna be able to use half (32 jiggabites!) the LPDDR5X-8533 next year, DDR6-12800 in 2026/2027, and LPDDR6X-17000 in 2027/2028.

[@The_One_Eyed_Rouge]

Other than Chrome then yeah sure 😅

[@jessiethedude]

That’s only “ideal”. Time to upgrade to 96GB

[@LupusAries]

It already hast been for a while in DCS....

[@Adri9570]

ah yes, the 12GB version of the 4080 I borrowed from Nvidia's secret lair of experimental development it's a thing now.

[@emma6648]

My pc almost died on Flight sim 2020, playing this is basically me murdering my pc

[@xKamiiii]

generation of the poor. go work and buy yourself a decent pc instead of hanging around on discord

[@AshtonCoolman]

If it dies it dies media.tenor.com/jsw4msjs6OkAAAAM/rocky.gif

[@lsxnapier584]

@@xKamiiii 🤡

[@thepro08]

@@xKamiiii yes because we are not at record inflation in the last half century and also now they demang 64gb to run a boring game..... pretty sure you are rich on yt comments....

[@cy1757]

​@xKamiiii I work 42 hours a week and my rent is 1200 , transport 200, food 300 , light bills 120 and I make 2300 after tax just because you are fortunate doesn't mean we are not working!! But sure what ever makes you sleep at night ,keep on feeding your ego big guy

[@1ben99]

Finally a game that can take advantage of the 64gb of RAM I got baited into buying because of a sale.

[@fffrrraannkk]

If anyone is going to upgrade their RAM to 64GB, consider ditching what you have and buy 2 32GB sticks instead of adding 2 sticks to what you already have. You probably won't be able to run the ram at its advertised speed with 4 sticks.

[@Kevin-mx4vm]

Why

[@iamstd2]

​@@Kevin-mx4vm IMC on CPUs have a hard time maintaining RAM timings on 4 sticks vs 2, especially on high speed RAM. You can run 4 sticks but usually not with XMP

[@GhostProductionsGP]

Need a pc 2 for this one🤧

[@Osprey850]

So, the PC Pro that I pre-ordered won't be enough? 😩

[@Krenisphia]

@@Osprey850 Nope, you need the Pro Max elite.

[@Thunderhawk51]

It's not that my PC isn't ready (because it isn't) but rather my wallet isn't ready to upgrade. Prices are quite LITERALLY increasing every single day. Yesterday 7800X3D went up like 30€ (and it went up a bit more before that as well) and today the case I was looking for went up 17€ and the M.2 I was looking for went up like 40€ and so on. PSU went up 5€. GPU up 80€. That's nearly 180€ increase on all parts! And the most infuriating part of it is that I know exactly WHY. Because Black Friday is coming and they raise the praises now through the roof so they can show massive discounts later, while they are actually the NORMAL prices! This is basically ILLEGAL. To prevent this, sellers are required to show the lowest price in 30 days so they do it now when it's more than 30 days away. It's a loophole. I would boycott them but there's only so many places to order stuff where I live... 😓 Basically just one. I'll literally write these prices down now just so I can compare them when BF comes.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

It's the opposite of illegal. It's the consequence of the stupid EU law that states sale price must be relative to the last 30 days. Stupid dictators created this mess. Stupid people allow it to go unchallenged because they don't bother to read the letter of the law.

[@timstuart7112]

Those minimum specs are just bizarre, but I think you’re right about the RX 5700 was a typo and it should be the RX 570. The 5700 only ever had 8 GB of vram whereas the 570 could have either 4 or 8 GB. Performance wise it also lines up better with the GTX970.

[@timstuart7112]

Another thought, GCN might not get support but still, having the RX5700 makes zero sense. The RX5500 makes more sense, it’s in the same performance class (approximately 15% faster) as the GTX970 but with a true 4 GB ram, heck the RX5600 is almost 70% faster than the 970 but they include the RX5700 a GPU that is 80% faster than the 970? Again those minimum specs make zero sense. Comparing the minimum to the recommended also makes me certain that someone was throwing darts and coming up with GPUs. The performance delta comparing Nvidia vs Nvidia the performance difference is 240% but on the AMD side it’s what 9%? Someone screwed the pooch.

[@fishtaco-m3j]

I suspect the suggested cards are based purely on vram with the 5700 possibly being a typo

[@drew2626]

@@timstuart7112 is 4GB enough VRAM to run it?

[@timstuart7112]

@@drew2626 I haven’t the foggiest idea but it’s in the minimum so maybe that is a typo too. 🤷

[@trackingdifbeatsaber8203]

@@timstuart7112 yeah a 5500 xt would probbly make more sense as that was close to an rx 580 which is better than a gtx 970 although that might some pepole think the rx 6500 xt is up to the task which it isnt, so maybe they should of put a rx 5600. The rx 570 lost its new driver support in 2023 so might not be able to run the game well at all.

[@mhh16]

Surprised that the 7800X3D isn't listed in the ideal spec. Always heard that this game loved the extra cache

[@adriankoch964]

This and the 2700x vs 10700k pairing might indicate that asobo worked hard to reduce the single core performance bottlenecks and managed to paralellize workloads into smaller chunks. Smaller chunks of tasks means less cache misses on regular L3 cach sizes vs larger v-cache. So FS might just prefer more evenly powerful cores than fewer cores with a bit more cache or fewer, faster cores. Flight simulator is weird for a game and likely benches more like a productivity benchmark then a corridor shooter.

[@stachowi]

It does, the best CPU right now would be the 7800x3d bc the 8 cores share the 96mb of L3 cache

[@lesserlogic9977]

​@@adriankoch964 very true, there is a lot going on

[@FinalLightNL]

Ikr even my 5800X3D pulls bigger numbers than the 14900k in FS2020

[@wtfskilz]

It was the best for FS2020 I'm sure it's still best here. The 9700 is probably plenty as well.

[@Ichibuns]

People can complain about RAM requirements, but we're moving really slow compared to 20-30 years ago

[@ChrisM541]

So true, especially the 4k speeds of SSD's - while the latest Gen5 NVME's have "earth shattering" marketing headline throughput speeds, 4k speeds haven't really moved for many, many years...shocking since that's the one the vast majority would benefit more from (Windows OS/all programs).

[@roanbrand7358]

Yeah, we should be on 512gb easy by bow, if trend stayed there between 2000-2010

[@DaveGamesVT]

@@ChrisM541 Yeah. I definitely feel like we need some kind of new tech that actually has noticeable improvements. I have a Gen5 M.2 and there's no difference I can tell over a Gen4 version.

[@johnconnor5124]

but we also moving slowly comparing to the graphics and performance leaps we had

[@wakaneut]

RAM increase has not been as much as other specs since the invention of pagefile/swapfile. And now it's no longer HDD, but SSD, so even less.

[@idkwhattohaveasausername5828]

The day has come where 64GB of ram is beginning to become ideal. Truly a wild era to live in.

[@swilleh_]

ideal*

[@crazybeatrice4555]

recommended is 32GB

[@Nor_a_Wanderer]

The fact that it’s not recommended…

[@DelgaDude]

I mean u can't compare this to any other game it just doesn't function in a same way. It's a flight simulator.

[@kevinphilpot3270]

Yep. Saw this today and ordered 2x16 sticks to match the other two. Wasn't bad though. DDR4 3600 and it was only $65.

[@mrvoorhees9599]

i do actually have 64 gigs of ram but a game that uses more ram than storage space doesnt make sense to me

[@Jason_Bover9000]

I guess because all of it running on cloud that's why

[@mrvoorhees9599]

@@Jason_Bover9000 so the streaming part in all this is basically just them using their Servers as remote SSD storage which contents then get offloaded into our ram so our PCs can compute the game locally for bits at a time? Thats what im getting from this

[@syncmonism]

@@mrvoorhees9599 The current PC version allows you to reserve a large chunk of your SSD in the game settings as a data cache, which can significantly reduce the amount of data which needs to be streamed once the data is cached there. I'm not sure if it stays there in between closing the game and opening it again, but I'm guessing that it does. I believe it can use 100's of GB of space if you let it.

[@djayjp]

Compression?

[@Jason_Bover9000]

@@mrvoorhees9599 what im thinking

[@AlienAmongst]

These specs look completely fine to me, and personally I can't wait for this I've played a bit of microsoft flight simulator and I am hyped for the new one. There will always be people crying about certain specifications. You don't need to play everything on max guys, you don't. Just play it on med/high games nowadys nearly look identical on ultra/high too some games look insane on low. And the 64GB requirement is not for the average pc user, it's for those who are going to be using this as a serious simflight simulator, you need to think of people that actually are pilots or want to become one.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

I completely agree!! I wish more people realized this.

[@Rickk69er]

Yeah, my computer's completely below specs, but I'm gonna try it and see how it goes. Run everything on low, medium, see what it does. When it doesn't work, i'll just upgrade my computer eventually

[@dionmiller8547]

I'm halfway through the video so you probably realize it later but I'm thinking the Rx 5700 GPU requirement is probably a typo and it should be a 570.

[@Osprey850]

That makes sense, since the 570 is comparable to the GTX 970, whereas the 5700 is nearly twice as fast.

[@sSteppingStones]

my PC is cooked

[@CriticalPotato]

Not yet, you have to play the game first. Throw some raw chicken in your chicken chamber and it will cook though.

[@EBMproductions1]

Nah fam, 16gig ram gang should first try it before we knock it trust me.

[@EBMproductions1]

​@@CriticalPotatoyears back people claimed my budget i5 4690 setup could not handle Doom eternal etc yet with a RTX 2060 was at 120fps at max settings with RT off ofcourse at 1080p so eh i dont always believe these spec sheets. 🫡

[@user-kc1tf7zm3b]

@@EBMproductions1 16GB was fine in 2019, but not for 2025. Everything changes.

[@EBMproductions1]

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b No...Bad optimization in 2% of total games does not mean 16gigs is not enough ram. Go test a bit more before saying dumb stuff like this, i test often 16gigs is still great 32gigs is near perfect abd 64gigs is overkill as this is one game out of hundreds of thousands needing 64gigs of Ram.

[@litebkt]

The bandwidth requirement is a killer for a lot of people.

[@existentialselkath1264]

You can run it with 10mbps For a game like this, stable internet is a necessity, which not everyone has, but 10mbps is slow even for a copper connection.

[@litebkt]

@@existentialselkath1264 I live in a rural area where bandwidth is a very large problem. My carrier is the most reliable I've ever had (retired from Silicon Valley) but my guaranteed rate is only 9.5 Mbs. I have to leave some of that for my telephone and other communications. And for that, I pay 110 dollars a month.

[@davidpereira9238]

People keep whining about the 64GB, which anyone can get, but ignoring the 50-100Mbps, which are out of your control. and could be many years away. Go figure

[@existentialselkath1264]

@@davidpereira9238 shocker, not everyone is able to get the very best possible visual experience. That's why you can play it with 10mbps and probably less because minimum requirements are rarely a hard cutoff.

[@StingyGeek]

Well, with that internet bandwidth requirement, good luck selling it in Australia in any volume!

[@Krashulka]

Exactly !, I'm in that boat, but with dodgy slow wireless nbn 5mbps upload speeds.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

I have been saying this for months: FS2020 can't handle the little bit of streaming it does now. FS2024 is going to be a cluster.

[@idontcheckmynotifications]

Funny thing is I live in Aus and I have speeds above that. My speed is better than most of my friends in other countries. Not interested in playing a game that has to stream so much data though 👍

[@idontcheckmynotifications]

@@Krashulka the NBN was a disaster, all it did for me was increase my upload speed, lower my dl slightly and make my internet more unstable. A waste of the original intent and all the money spent on it. Screw Foxtel for manipulating and screwing it

[@arwasairl]

MSFS and others like it has always been super super heavy on the performance. If any of you guys were a part of the Prepar3D community or XP12 community, you'd probably know at least 3 or 4 people who had 4090s and i9-14900Ks just to run their simulators. Typical gaming CPUs like the 7800X3D perform quite well, but these sims are almost akin to productivity software in that they love high core counts as they split simulator processes (flight model, effect rendering, scenery generation, etc.) between each core.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

These specs are frankly overrated. As you say, this needs mid-high end gaming PC, period. The CPU isn't as critical as the GPU/memory and memory speed. I run FS2020 at 4K on high, on an i7 9700K, and get 80+ FPS in the heaviest areas.

[@dqskatt]

@@paradoxicalcat7173 Bro when spreading misinformation online and liking his own comment:

[@mttrashcan-bg1ro]

It's frustrating living in Australia, my PC is above Ideal with a 4090, 7800X3D and 96gb Ram, but my internet is 20mbps because only estates built in the last decade get proper fibre and everyone else gets shafted until they eventually upgrade it.

[@KarlDag]

StarLink

[@tadmikowsky7520]

Look on the bright side, mate! At least you get enough vacation time to actually play games 🙂

[@harpoon_bakery162]

@@KarlDag slow and expensive

[@greebj]

Thank that luddite Misterrabbit for the "multi technology mix" hatchet job they did on the NBN, turning it into a messy pile of garbage

[@jpkiwi8744]

@@harpoon_bakery162 I am in Australia in the middle of nowhere on Starlink 425Mb down / 20 up no issues at all..And I am a hardcore online gamer.

[@mikopium258]

I just upgraded to 32gb ram thinking it would be top of the line 💀

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

If you don't go crazy with the settings, it should be fine.

[@drew2626]

@@mikopium258 how’d you think that would top of the line?

[@rahulahl]

I was running out of 32GB years ago. lol.

[@legendp2011]

ive been running 32gb since 2013 with an 3rd gen i5. current systems are 64gb

[@HifeMan]

@@legendp2011Heck I never went past 32GB since 2012 because nothing I play will use that much ram and 99.9 of games won’t need more for now.

[@jouniosmala9921]

Ideal spec as an upgrade could be summed as two 700$ upgrades. MB-CPU-RAM=700$ and 700$ GPU. And you don't need to do it in one sitting. Then there's half that cost for something close to recommended.

[@brianharris1830]

Tremendous point!

[@zJericho101z]

Crazy to see the gamesize being smaller than the recommended ram size.....

[@CarlosQuesadaR]

Amazing how you move through the screen, good job

[@blob0000]

To be honest, it isn't as bad as I thought. I've seen other games that have higher requirements, the ideal 64gb specs is kind of insane, but after all that's ideal, and you will probably be able to run the game just fine with the recommended, and maybe even with the minimum specs.

[@stepanbalakirev8422]

Its not exacly a game, its a sim, totally another league. Just look at how much a sim setup is worth vs a premium xbox/ps controller. 100-150 extra bucks for RAM is nothing.

[@Tegutei]

thought the title was microsoft flight simulator 2004 and got excited for a minute 😭

[@117mixa117]

Wtf is "Ryzen 7 7900x" in the ideal section of the table 🤡 Isn't it Ryzen 9 ???

[@B.D.E.]

Use your head.

[@krzysztof7374]

​@@B.D.E. ???

[@Gruxxan]

if ryzen 7 7900X is ideal, then obviously anything higher than that is also going to be ideal, if not even overkill

[@krzysztof7374]

@@Gruxxan the 7900x is a Ryzen 9 chip, not a Ryzen 7

[@Gruxxan]

@@krzysztof7374 oh yeah 🤪

[@eracer1111]

Realtime scenery download scares the crap out of me, even with my 1Gb fiber connection. I'm imagining being on final at KDFW in a Fenix A320, watching a gigabyte of scenery slowly, painfully popping into view.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

You assume it even streamed in before touchdown! 😂😂😂

[@dtrjones]

There a ton of stuff streamed in MSFS 2020 already, it's not even worth playing MSFS 2020 without an internet connection so it makes no difference.

[@lucasdigital]

It's dark magic that has a game that moves to stream everything and yet need the highest specs I’ve ever seen. I’m blessed with a machine in the ideal zone and yet the 2020 version could stutter a bit before I was able to use frame generation. If they were honest the ideal spec would actually be Recommend and the Ideal spec would just say “ High spec PC from 2027.”

[@blkspade23]

It's not streaming the frames, just the data that you still need to render locally. That data will likely be using some degree of compression, that you'll need a strong CPU to decompress in real time. That's where the higher RAM makes sense.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

I totally agree, but performance WILL suffer (CPU is busy with other stuff and not running flight sim!), and the sim will stutter every time it loads new objects or scenery. It's totally unavoidable. I'm waiting for everyone to cry over it.

[@lilpain1997]

Frame gen doesn't stop stutter?

[@NameUserOf]

Not my type of game but i do have 96GB of RAM ) Interestingly i was deciding between 7700 and 7900x CPU and since my previous experience was with 3900x money wasted i went with 8 cores this time, Blender doesn't care much for cores outside of rendering and a special fluid addon that can work well up to 10 cores, well at least a time. And now there is a game that requires 12 cores wow.

[@Illthallion]

lol - "Flashbang warning" 1:04 Thank you sir!

[@jshennessy]

The new “ but can it run Microsoft 2024 flight simulator” 😮‍💨

[@Rickk69er]

What the hell are you talking about? That sentence doesn't make any sense

[@RF-be9vx]

​@@Rickk69er guy walking to a random store to buy a new computer

[@jonathanmalfatti4541]

For South American players, MS servers don't even provide the download speed to reach the recommended minimum, no matter how fast the user's internet plan is. I have a contracted and measured speed of 300 Mbps, but I have never managed to get more than 20-30 Mbps when downloading MSFS 2020-related content.

[@davidpereira9238]

And yet all people whine about is the 64GB RAM, as if it was hard to get

[@manyamaggot]

this game will run on a xbox series s, it can be that insane

[@fsx-legend4602]

It will struggle badly I suppose though.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

FS2020 could not run on XBox! It often crashed, black-screened, or the avionics totally failed under load. Microsoft are insane if they think this will be an improvement given the higher system requirements! XBox can't be upgraded!

[@hah5663]

@@paradoxicalcat7173yea it can who told you that lmao

[@Canadiantoejam]

​@@paradoxicalcat7173I have over 1500 hours on MSFS on my series X and don't have any of these issues. I'll do 4 to 6 hour flights without crashes. I think you're probably lying, or your console is coated in dust or in an area with next to zero ventilation

[@Finger112]

Even though there are very few games that have or had 32 GBs as the recommended RAM not too long ago, I predicted years ago that the RAM storage was going to eventually go up with how big and detailed the assets are starting to get in games for the Ultra settings and how big the games are getting (and the lack of offline play as well in more and more games). People laughed at games needing more than 16Gbs for storage, the vast majority doesn't need more than that but I think we need to start taking no PC spec for games for granted anymore, we thought not too long ago that 8 GBs was good enough, yeah that barely lasted a few years. I've always had way more than 16 Gbs, all the way up to 128 GBs, and now just bought 192 Gbs of RAM. I can bet someday 64 Gbs of RAM might become a minimum spec with 128-256 GBs being in the ideal specs for a game in the future. I almost bet single player games in the future are going to take a look at streaming in assets over the internet and will be the more reason you will need to have an account to play games on (and video games might become an online only experience, just like video game companies wanted this all along for consumers, were already going that direction). Like the whole PSN requirement for games they just started implementing games in, wait until they update all the past games they brought on PC with a PSN requirement. I wouldn't even put that off the table, that might be a requirement in more games going forward like MFS here.

[@bigarmydave]

MSFS 2024 DEMO teams were using a 14900k, 4080 Super @4K (presume 64gb ram)

[@hikertrashfilms]

I have 13900K, 4090, 64GM 2x32 6400 mhz

[@Rickk69er]

Some of the comments I see on these youtube channels about people complaining that their computer won't run the game. You guys for years asked about a great game. You want better graphics, you want everything. We can't have your cake and eat it too. It's time to upgrade your computers. My computer is below minimum specs, but I'm not going to cry and blame a asobo.

[@JohnDoe-lm6or]

I have been playing the last of us part 1 on my 4080 and the game has been using 22gb of ram at 4k on ultra settings so I’m not necessarily surprised that a flight simulator uses that much ram.

[@Crimsongz]

That game is a ressource hog lmao

[@brucepreston3927]

I think the last of us part 1 is the only game I have ever played that actually used more than 16gb of ram...

[@bobjoe5937]

That's wild lol

[@wtfskilz]

I played at max settings at 3440x1440 and my ram usage doesn't come close. Maybe shut off discord and opera. Or debloat your system.

[@KarlDag]

Used (V)RAM =\= required (V)RAM

[@dtrjones]

The cores is interesting. Lots of folks on the forums buying X3D processors for MSFS 2024 and I've been telling them to stop and wait for performance figures. At the very least they should consider the higher cores/productivity CPUs for MSFS 2024 because of the CPU core architecture changes in the sim.

[@0x8badbeef]

The top end says 64 GB of RAM but still 50 GB of storage. That makes me think of them old RAM disks we used to have in Windows. Maybe that is the cache they are talking about.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

That's exactly how they're going to handle the streaming.

[@ZratP]

I am amused by all the comments shocked by a new FS requirements. It has always been the case. FSX was murdering all the PCs at that time in 2006, it was its own Crysis. FS2020 also was super demanding. Usually, FS is very hard to run well at launch and you need to wait typically 1 or 2 gens of CPU/GPU to start being more comfortable on more mainstream machines. Does it excuse Microsoft? No of course but it seems it always has been the decision. Pushing some stuff to the limit and bruteforce it later as hardware becomes more potent.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

I remember the BS excuses of MS regarding FSX. "It's designed for future hardware". Totally impossible, and as time proved, absolute bllcks. I'm waiting for everyone to cry over how bad FS2024 is.

[@WayStedYou]

min requirements: 970 and 16gb of memory Everyone: OH MY GOODNESS I NEED 64GB AND A 4090!~

[@K31TH3R]

This. Obviously a high end modern PC is "ideal" for any new game. But the min requirements can be met by an 8 year old midrange PC from 2016. The recommended spec is met by 5 year old midrange PC. In all likelihood if you have a PC that scores at least 10-12K points in 3DMark TimeSpy, at least 32GB RAM, and cable internet or better, you'll be able to run FS24 just fine with a mix of medium high settings at 1080P. Also, the devs are clear that FS24 is more about optimizing performance through technical upgrades than it is about becoming the next Crysis meme, and the suggestions seem to be that if your PC can run FS20 decently well, FS24 should run the same or even better.

[@Nareimooncatt]

Someone over in the official MSFS forums had asked one of the developers about the AMD RX5700 issue between minimum and recommended specs, and he was told it was not a typo.

[@filipslavchev1402]

TIME FOR AN RTX 5080 WITH 128GB OF MEMORY

[@deathdrop]

guess i can play the same settings with my RTX 4090 and 128GB of memory XD

[@saricubra2867]

The NVIDIA Quadro lineup or A series designed for AI should be the best for these simulator games.

[@BeatmasterAC]

you mean a Rebranded RTX5070ti with 12GB? XD

[@groundhoppingwlkp3622]

GPU probably won't be an issue... but CPU... I'm ready for new "limited by mainthread" nonsense :P

[@bgaffney05]

More like the IBM quantum computer as recommended spec. Not even ideal spec.

[@qaj4j58fgs6]

They laughed when i bought my 7800x3d, 32gb ram and 4070ti super..... Now it's my turn

[@rexjaneway186]

And just remember in 4 years they probably will released a new version.

[@LilaHikes]

Right... people have a short memory.... cough cough _10 year commitment..._

[@kruemelfelix]

This is literally the perfect game for Cloud gaming. Streaming the rendered game is consuming less bandwidth than streaming the assets live to your PC. Crazy!

[@Edward135i]

64gb of Ram is insane.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

That's because MacOS is tightly integrated with the hardware. Windows is a general operating system that must run on different CPU feature-sets.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

I'd call it the recommended spec today, along with 16 Gb VRAM.

[@The_Real_Indiana_Joe]

I'll be interested in actual usage, most games don't need anything close to 32 much less 64.

[@ianmeredith7969]

This is such a great discussion given the £200 kinda figure the full version costs - a lot of money to spend if having committed to this, you then have to slide back all the features to a point that feels little different to MSFS or worse! I have always been delighted by the AlphaSync PC I bought for MSFS as it performed pretty well and was incredibly balanced rather than so many systems which sell on a hyper great graphics card but in reality are awash with other bottlenecks that result in a lacklustre system and a graphics card unable to deliver to its theoretical capability. I would really hope that Microsoft/Asobo would offer a free download test tool which would assess one's existing PC/bandwidth and offer advice of the suitability of your system in simple terms (poor, ok, great, superb) and where any issues would need to be addressed.

[@ghost1aimen]

Interesting is a freaking understatement 😂

[@rangersmith4652]

Oddly, I have a sudden urge to go hunting for a good deal on a Radeon VII.... The Core i7 6800K is an HEDT CPU, running on a X99 board, socket 2011-3, with quad-channel memory. It was an absolute killer CPU in 2016. In one of my PCs I have its big brother, the 6850K, and a 980Ti. It can still hold its own in many workloads. I've always wanted to try MS FS, so maybe this go 'round I will. The system I'd use has a 13700K, 7900XTX, a 4TB Gen4 NVMe drive, and 64GB of DDR5 5600, and I'm on fiber at 1Gb up and down, so I should be fine.

[@spinb]

Isn't that an odd CPU for them to list? I would think they'd list something more common such as a 8700K for that class of CPU.

[@rangersmith4652]

@@spinb Yes, or something mainstream from that time frame. Comparatively speaking, almost nobody ever built an X99 gaming PC. Broadwell-E (6800K) falls in the timeline between Skylake-S (6700K) and Kaby Lake-S (7700K), both of which were quad-core chips on Socket 1151. I guess MS figures only a 6-core chip will do, and Intel had no six-core mainstream CPU during that time frame. Coffee Lake-S (8700K) was the first mainstream chip for Intel with six cores, but it didn't appear until 18 months or so after the 6800K.

[@saricubra2867]

​@@rangersmith46528700K was the best i7 before the 12700K.

[@Skradgee]

Windows 10, across the board on that chart, huh? 😂

[@brucepreston3927]

It says min OS...meaning you atleast need to be on Win 10

[@Osprey850]

It makes sense because W11 isn't any better for gaming than W10, but it IS kind of unexpected coming from Microsoft, considering how aggressively they like to push W11. 😆

[@Peb02497]

Win 10 is still supported

[@WayStedYou]

its min requirement of windows 10

[@GrySgtBubba]

​@@Peb02497Only until Dec. Jan '25 it will no longer be.

[@parm2-x7h]

time to build a new computer , gotta get 128gb ram this time , now just need rtx5090 xtx and i9-9950x3d to play this game . r9-14900xt is too power hungry ,

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

Did you deliberately transpose the i and r?

[@ChristianKoehler77]

I wonder what will be necessary to run that game well in Virtual Reality. The old version is notoriously hard to run well in VR. But it is one of the most impressive VR experiences you can have, so much more immersive than playing on a screen.

[@fffrrraannkk]

I'm wondering too, but if I had to guess, whatever you have it's not enough. I've got a 7800x3d/4090, and expecting a subpar VR experience. I hope I'm wrong, but something tells me it might be rough and take a collaborative effort on the MSFS forums to tweak the game for good VR.

[@brunogt1982]

mfs 2024 looks absolutely insane

[@flatfish-d9o]

Once again here to request a look at the history of generational GPU price:performance improvement over the years 🙏

[@Jason_Bover9000]

Wow what is this update the other one was not demanding now it is

[@Tk-ed8ry]

So glad I just purchased a 16G vram card now. Holy. Those system requirements are nuts

[@christopherarocha92]

Excited for this

[@beingsmartisasentence7213]

64 gb ram does makes sense somehow . But when u arent optimizing windows u basically loose 8 gb from the getgo I really want to play this tho with 32 gb ram

[@Saccade_HS]

GTX 970, min VRAM: 4GB 😅😅

[@TheLifetraveler1]

Thank you for doing this. Have a corei7 12700, 32gig, 3060ti system that runs current MSFS decently. Building a new one, but stuck whether to make the upgraded CPU or GPU the priority. With your information I've decided to make the CPU (core i7 14700) the priority and use my existing RTX 3060ti and double the ram from 32 to 64gb. Was going to switch to Ryzen 7800x3d, but with the new MSFS taking advantage for multiple cores now, I will stick with Intel. The other tech channels always stick to shoot them up game comparison, this ignoring us simmers.

[@GrySgtBubba]

Oh my god dude! What??? ...My PC is basically just just under the 'ideal' specs...but the vast majority of PC'ers don't even meet the recommended specs. Microsoft done lost their minds!

[@speedforce8970]

It's a sim game and very niche. I like it because it shows how far tech can be pushed because the last game looked absolutely gorgeous and I am excited to see the upgrades. Also, it's probably on gamepass so I'll probably try it and explode my PC in the process

[@kls1836]

There is always the older flight sim which is just as serviceable as this so it should be ok.

[@LilaHikes]

While I don't disagree, there are plenty of flight sim fanatics who have no problem throwing buckets of money at their hobby. I see it in the forums all the time. Whenever someone has a problem, the first thing they do is through another thousand at it with hopes it fixes their problem.

[@julianharvey6584]

I am not sure of the exact figures but im pretty sure that when FS2020 was released it generated or reported to be about $2.6billion in new hardware sales. Back then people didnt have the specs for Fs2020 on release.

[@mercuriete]

At this point the requirements is for invalidate bug reports from people. If you play in unsuported configuration means they can ignore your bug.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

Agreed. They didn't like all the problems people reported with FS2020. XBox was a joke then. I can't see how it can run FS2024.

[@petrkdn8224]

btw Mb is not equal to MB. 100Mbs is roughly 11-12 MBs. essentially average internet speed in 90% of all western nations (europe, north america, australia+new zealand)

[@Fregatte86]

That pin point demo was satisfying

[@brennt501]

The mandatory internet connection is terrible, and the servers are often overloaded. They should at least give users the option to download ground textures via a manual cache, not just photogrammetry data.

[@julianharvey6584]

I remember buying in 1984 ish a intel 286-16mhz PC with 4mb ram and a 42mb HDD £700 quid in 1984 ! You can still spend £700 on a new PC and get something decent. I would say computing for the masses has got a lot cheaper bang for buck ! Thats £700 back then is equivalent to £2500 now. So for half that get a very good PC.

[@stevensmith6445]

They told me back in 2019 1300W was too much, They told me 2 years ago 64 gb of ram was too much. They just need to shut up at this point.

[@daniil3815]

Yes. Exactly. People don’t look into the future whatsoever. Only focusing on right now.

[@WayStedYou]

I see you aren't looking at the 16gb min and 32gb rec requirement then

[@agamerandyou9854]

good! im very much ready on all grounds here! min spec means youll just be playing on lowish settings.. doesnt really matter

[@MisterWoes]

Wow, way to limit your customers. Good job Microsoft! Your specs are insane and you won't even recommend your latest OS! Love to see it.

[@traingp7]

The footage of this game running on the upcoming RTX 5090 is going to be epic.

[@carlo1132]

Looks like I am set 64gb, 14900k, 4090 baby!

[@daniil3815]

Man, cool 😎, but stop flexing 😂

[@carlo1132]

@@daniil3815 🦾🦾🦾

[@Monochromatic_Spider]

But do you have an industrial sized AC to keep your room from melting your house? And a nuclear reactor to power it all? If not then it seems like there's still something to aspire for.🙂

[@carlo1132]

@@Monochromatic_Spider 🤣

[@martyk656]

My 4 year old PC with its newly upgraded GPU meets or far exceeds recommended specs across the board. Ideal would require a new CPU & upgrade to 64GB on my part. Not overly demanding. I'm glad to see it would take advantage of the extra RAM.

[@vg6761]

My 3080 and 32 GB of RAM is now obsolete. So dumb.

[@Canadiantoejam]

Seems like you're overreacting quite a bit

[@hikertrashfilms]

I have 4090 & 64GB 😭

[@paulustrucenus]

dude you're above recommended just shut the fuck up rich boi

[@CopenhagenMcjinkins]

Why are the majority of people in this comment section saying this is a video game? Video games don't require this much ram yet. He clearly stated at the beginning of the video that it is (not) a video game but a simulator!!!

[@craigfoster354]

My internet usage is capped at 1.2 TB per month total (up and down combined) without having to pay a lot extra. I wonder how many hours of flying FS 2024 I can do and still have 500 GB left for streaming TV, surfing, watching Daniel's videos, etc. Additionally, will MSFS 2024 only stream to you the resolution you use (e.g. 2K) or will you have to accept the entire bloated 4K stream?

[@Rickk69er]

Yes. When you load into an airport, it only loads that airport and the surrounding scenery that you need. It doesn't load the whole world scenery

[@Masaim6]

Yeah I think they put an extra 0 on the Amd minimum spec, the 570 is 3% worse than the 970 according to tech power up.

[@crestofhonor2349]

Looking at the visuals in this game and all the physics calculations it’s doing, I’m not surprised

[@B.D.E.]

It's not doing that much physics compared with many other games. It's mostly just the demands of the massive world constantly being loaded in and unloaded, and all the textures etc that comes with.

[@crestofhonor2349]

@@B.D.E. Flight Sim 2024 is doing a ton of physics simulations. That's how it accurately simulates how the plane flies and how wind can effect different parts of the plane.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

LOL physics! The flight model is a tweaked FSX flight model. FS2024 will use the same model as FS2020. You're insane if you think they suddenly achieved DCS level of fidelity! LMAO!

[@swilleh_]

we all for sure know that it needs FARTSR/DLASSASS to actually be minimal/recommended/ideal

[@fffrrraannkk]

I wish more games supported FARTSR. It's an underrated tech.

[@roiiam]

What matters most is the scaling and if it actually is worth playing at min

[@ilynx2008]

Here is a big surprise to everyone : I run FS2020 very smoothly,on a,guess what? laptop with 32gb,GTX 1650 (YES,that one,now obsolete)and Intel I5...with most of the settings on Ultra! So,I can only hope it will run FS2024 at least,playable!

[@Lucaat]

With all world updates, multiple airports, and addon airplanes my MSFS folder is 900GB. Also; since the 90s FS is always a CPU hog. It has become more multicore aware, but it still loves fast cores. On MSFS starting with 7900XT/4070Ti Super you will be CPU limited. Another important aspect, MSFS looooves fast RAM! The faster the better.

[@Denroe-fd4hx]

streaming from the cloud is the main reason for the higher bandwith speed requirements on the internet side, makes a lot of sense though on the new game

[@kostihouse]

Haha good thing we have Google Earth VR now, so i can have the fun of exploring the world, without trying to fly a plane 😅 it would also probably run fine on something like a 3060ti (in VR), while i suppose the only way to play the MFS 2024 in VR will be probably with a 5090 😅

[@harpoon_bakery162]

that's correct, the 4090 will not haul all the bananas that MS-2024 requests.

[@ItsJustNor-i]

Can't wait for my pc to sound like an international airport 😍

[@JB_Hobbies]

Cool. Converted away from cheap storage so that you have to buy expensive ram and guzzle internet data nonstop. Plus, when they stop supporting the game, then you can just eff right off. I hate the cloud.

[@RealOny]

Godspeed, Jarty...

[@gsestream]

finally some progress, download speed for install only, yes you dont want to be streaming anything from internet while gaming. dont rely on the cloud.

[@blackcaesar8387]

I was super hyped for the 2020 Flight Sim, but just couldn't get the hang of it. Managed to do the tutorial small plane stuff several times but got lost as soon as I tried a jet.

[@AGenericAccount]

youll get it if you mess around enough. it doesnt seem intuitive at first but i think it's a very rewarding game once you figure it out

[@jamesbp]

Msfs is the main game that Ive been playing for about 6 months now

[@ArrakisCentral]

Nice, im above and beyond

[@BerserkPublishing]

First, I wouldn't worry about the ideal spec. I'm surprised they didn't put 128GB for the RAM. That's just pie in the sky, throw all the hardware at the sim. 32 GB will likely be fine for 99%. If you end up with a ton of add-ons, running in 4k, and you're running multi-player and streaming, then yea, you're gonna need 64. What I'm freaking over is the OS. Notice it keeps saying Windows 10, not Windows 10 and up. People keep blowing this off, but at the end of the day, why would it not say Windows 11 considering Microsoft is hurting themselves trying to force people to upgrade? It really makes me wonder if it was tested in Windows 11 at all. Given the frame rate differences of various CPU/GPUs between 10 and 11 it would be nice to know if these specs work the same for Windows 11. Just a thought.

[@DreLewis-q9x]

In MS last live meeting they said they are aiming for no less than 30fps @ 4k with recommended spec and 30fps for min specs for 1080p. Also, the ideal spec will only be needed if you are running multiple programs at once they said. So, if you are one those who have a lot of programs running while flying than it is best to go for the highest spec. Xbox X 4k 30fps and Xbox s 30fps @1080p

[@wkungYT]

Again everyone, the worst of this is for IDEAL spec, not recommended. But yeah... Oof.

[@johnny14794]

If Microsoft incorporates DLSS, XESS, FSR, the requirements for GPU's wouldn't be that demanding. The game will have more visual demands compared to the previous version. But as any other games, tweaking the settings and fine tuning it to your system is key for a good experience. It doesn't mention at what resolution those requirements have to be met though... We shall see when it comes out...

[@speedforce8970]

For these games, your CPU matters a lot more than the GPU so I can get why upscaling isn't helpful in their eyes because it's only making the game look worse without benefitting your FPS unless you're GPU bound which is pretty tough to do in this game

[@bumblebeebat-te5xv]

Microsoft explained all of this, it's been covered in various articles.

[@watching_events447]

Some big changes for FS2024 Much smaller install. More data streaming. Better multi core usage allegedly.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

LOL! All of it being used to stream and unpack; not run the simulator!

[@RiemsAI]

From my experience, the rule of thumb is if the game requires 32GB of RAM, your graphics card has to have at least a quater of that number to run smooth, which is 8GB VRAM and if the game requires 64 GB of RAM to run smooth, you graphics card has to have at least 16GB VRAM which is all the top of the line graphics card today. Thats why it requires a 16GB RTX 4080 to run ideally. And this is on a single monitor. But later on they are going to nerfed it just like MSFS 2020 to optimize to run on an Xbox console. And all you who sold your kidney to get an ideal machine for this, will be left hanging. Learn from the past. Dont get fooled twice. A good app/software developer would create a game to cater current majority hardware not the other way round. Remember, their business is to make money. If not many have the hardware they are going to nerfed it so much until the majority of people can use it. Their business is quantity not quality.