Why Nightwing VS Red Hood Isn't Even Close!

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@chalkdemon8019
@chalkdemon8019 10 ай бұрын
The Court of Owls were going to recruit Dick Grayson to become a Talon but Bruce got to him first on the night his parents were killed. That’s another interesting add on to Nightwing’s resume.
@redhoodie4111
@redhoodie4111 10 ай бұрын
Bruce didn't "get to him first" it was entirely by coincidence. Haley's Circus was going to groom Dick to become a Talon because the entire Grayson family lineage is made up of Talons. Bruce adopting Dick was purely happenstance.
@protalghulnist4126
@protalghulnist4126 10 ай бұрын
Yeah that doesn't really say anything about his skills cause they were going to train him
@KD6-3005
@KD6-3005 9 ай бұрын
​@redhoodie4111 to be more specific they were going to groom him into being an immortal assassin.
@chalkdemon8019
@chalkdemon8019 8 ай бұрын
@@protalghulnist4126 I think a group of assassins know potential when they see it.
@NotCharAznable
@NotCharAznable 6 ай бұрын
Imagine being this confident while being wrong. lol
@comicfan1324
@comicfan1324 10 ай бұрын
You have to remember that Wonder Woman once divided Nightwing to join the justice league. Not because he was there equal, but because she believed he had a potential to surpass them.
@shmeebs387
@shmeebs387 10 ай бұрын
He's also led the Justice League on multiple different occasions. He was the leader of the backup League during Obsidian Age over veterans like Green Arrow and Hawkgirl.
@lorelofi
@lorelofi 10 ай бұрын
That's why his death in Injustice was always a head scratcher for me.
@WassupItsDev
@WassupItsDev 10 ай бұрын
Yeah me too man, but I think it did end up having a decent twist towards the end of the injustice comics
@natesalden168
@natesalden168 10 ай бұрын
I think one of the authors / directors of the comics / game said something along the lines of he needed to die or else the events that followed just straight up wouldn’t happen because of his presence and communication skills, or something along those lines
@WassupItsDev
@WassupItsDev 10 ай бұрын
@@natesalden168 yeah I think it makes for a great storyline, I think Damian knowing what Nightwing was really capable of adds to the shock of him actually causing Nightwing to die.
@Aboriginal_American_Hebrew
@Aboriginal_American_Hebrew 10 ай бұрын
Writers Hoed Night Wing for nothing it’s nihilistic comedy
@jodhvirsingh3910
@jodhvirsingh3910 10 ай бұрын
I'm sure it scratched his head pretty well too
@Juliodadon210
@Juliodadon210 10 ай бұрын
Punching your way out of a sub underwater isn't like super human it is super human...
@spikem5950
@spikem5950 10 ай бұрын
I keep saying it, DC's "human" heroes are indeed still superheroes. DC has that anime "if you train hard enough you can become superhuman" thing, it's just to a lesser extent of the actual metahumans.
@cartoonz7132
@cartoonz7132 9 ай бұрын
@@spikem5950adding on to that, pitting DC “humans” to other media superhuman is sometimes just unfair like Nightwing vs My Hero 😂
@spikem5950
@spikem5950 9 ай бұрын
@@cartoonz7132 Night Wing would fucking wreck anyone but All Might and the main villain dude from My Hero. Just two completely different power levels the two settings operate in.
@skitzo899
@skitzo899 9 ай бұрын
@@spikem5950i don’t even like mha and ik this is cap
@pisaschitt787
@pisaschitt787 9 ай бұрын
​@@spikem5950yeah this is straight up bs. There are broken quirks in mha that will stop Nightwing instantly. Even season 1 nomu would be an overkill for him lol
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog 10 ай бұрын
Nightwing is the closest of being Batman's successor.
@paulpierre4895
@paulpierre4895 10 ай бұрын
Jason todd is only known for being beat up by joker lol 😂😮😊
@newhybrid101
@newhybrid101 10 ай бұрын
Not even close,you are just biased cause he is "nicer" as a person. Nightwing isnt Bruces successor,he is his own man. He is the original of his kind and someone else will be Nightwings successor. He isnt like Bruce in any way. All fans are biased towards Nightwing but in pretty much all possible futures we have seen he is irrelevant,he either dies early or retires early and chills with a family he creates. Even Future Tim said that. DC has showed fans time and time again that Damian is Bruces successor,they literally said in Dark Crisis that he becomes Batman in pretty much all possibilities in the future. And indeed in most future elseworlds stories he is Bruces successor. All this talk about Nightwing is NPC talk,he is just nice and likable but that doesn't mean much. The only time Nightwing was Bruces successor was in Golden Age Earth 2 cause Damian and Terry werent a thing. Just because he is one of Bruces sons,the second most beloved(yes Injustice isnt accurate big surprise),doesnt mean he is his successor. To say he is "Batmans successor" completely ruins Nightwings character arc, ironically it means you arent much of a fan of him. Bruces true successor? Who was the Batman who saved the universe in DCSEASED(Earth 55)? Potentially even multiverse if the virus invaded other dimensions Which Batman sacrificed his life at age 17 to save everyone? The real answer is Damian and Terry, two sides of Batman. One is the closest approximation to Bruces Batman and the other is a different kind of Batman.
@NotoriousB.I.G.
@NotoriousB.I.G. 10 ай бұрын
​@@newhybrid101Bro wrote an entire novel 😂
@demetridixon-tw3vb
@demetridixon-tw3vb 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@newhybrid101bro what???!!! Have u read the battle for the cowl? Or any comic. Bruce Wayne himself said if he was to die. Nightwing would take up the mantle.
@donovandacosta2276
@donovandacosta2276 10 ай бұрын
​@erikrousu😂😂
@tyreseupshaw07
@tyreseupshaw07 10 ай бұрын
The fact you even said, "He even beaten Red Hood," says it all, even if it was obvious
@newhybrid101
@newhybrid101 10 ай бұрын
Jason has also beaten him/or had the edge a few times
@jxlennn
@jxlennn 10 ай бұрын
@@newhybrid101only when nightwing was holding back without the intention of fighting him, or injured from before
@Azeral7
@Azeral7 10 ай бұрын
​@newhybrid101 that was when nightwing was cut off guard and holding back alot. Red hood meat rider
@themightofgeburah5882
@themightofgeburah5882 10 ай бұрын
@@Azeral7caught off guard? LOL HE WAS BLITZED. The times Red Hood beat Nightwing was in cases where Nightwing was going to die. Bro was handling members of the Bat-Fam including Nightwing.
@Azeral7
@Azeral7 10 ай бұрын
@@themightofgeburah5882 ofc an iilterate sonic fan can't comprehend what's the context a a few comic pages
@pollomaniac
@pollomaniac 10 ай бұрын
I've always seen it like this .... Dick Grayson = Leonardo Jason tood = Raphael Tim drake = Donatello Damian Wayne = Michaelangelo
@chalkdemon8019
@chalkdemon8019 10 ай бұрын
That’s fair, Nightwing being the most skilled, and having the best leadership qualities. Red Hood being the strongest/brute force rage filled. Red Robin having the best detective skills, and Damien being the best naturally gifted being the actual son of Bruce Wayne.
@Everythinghighend_
@Everythinghighend_ 10 ай бұрын
Michaelangelo is the most skilled turtle and most potential
@MyKeyOFCL
@MyKeyOFCL 10 ай бұрын
@Gamer_Wolf. I think your missing their point
@detroitmade6
@detroitmade6 10 ай бұрын
​@@chalkdemon8019 problem is Jason isn't stronger than Grayson.
@miriotogata5474
@miriotogata5474 10 ай бұрын
@@MyKeyOFCL No he is right. Damian is much more of a Leonardo. Damian is to dark and brooding to be Mikey. Mikey has the highest potential of all the turtles, but he is young and spirited because he relies on his brothers. After the rest of the turtles die is where you see the more mature michaelangelo. Its similar to dick as the young spirited robin to the mature nightwing he becomes.
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog 10 ай бұрын
The strongest Non-Benders in Avatar.
@newhybrid101
@newhybrid101 10 ай бұрын
Sokka in the Yakone flashback has to be OP,obviously would destroy his ATLA self
@DarkKnight2037
@DarkKnight2037 10 ай бұрын
​@@newhybrid101but sokka is a bender, so he doesnt count. He bends his boomerang in the air
@DarkKnight2037
@DarkKnight2037 10 ай бұрын
Imo. Ty Lee in a sense is def one of them, since she was able to chi block almost all the benders upto someone as skilled and powerful as Paula, albeit catching her off guard. Bit did succeed against people like katara. The equaliser with the twin electric batons, he was successful on taking on a few high level benders. Rock Lee is alright too I guess
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog 10 ай бұрын
Batman watching his kids fighting again.
@BIONICTHUMB
@BIONICTHUMB 10 ай бұрын
Ok so looking at the composite versions of their characters not taking into account future stuff, the fight is very close. Jason is stated to have the highest potential and best natural instincts of the entire batfamily, as well as the most varied training. Dick on the other hand has more experience and is outright stated to be a better fighter than Batman being the only Robin to beat him in a fair no holding back match. Jason is physically stronger, the most resilient, and has the strongest will, but Dick closely follows in all of these, barely edges out in speed, and far surpasses him in agility. Dick is also smarter, however Jason has actually shown a better tactical approach to fighting with better planning and more frequent showings of adaptability. Ignoring future versions of these characters and outlier universes like Injustice Dick still comes out on top maybe 6 times out of 10, but the fight is anything but clear cut.
@DrDickParker
@DrDickParker 10 ай бұрын
Edges?
@huntertezz
@huntertezz 10 ай бұрын
highest potential would be Damian.
@Nempo13
@Nempo13 10 ай бұрын
No, Jason does not have the highest potential. Dick does. Dick was scouted to become a Talon in the Court of Owls. He was also asked to join the Justice League as an equal by Wonder Woman because she believed he had the potential to surpass ALL OF THEM. He was also trained by Superman to such a degree that in some stats he is actually just beyond peak human now. Jason does have a better instinct for when he is in danger than the other Robins. Jason was looked at by the Court and deemed not worthy because he lacks inherent talent. Yes, the Owls looked at every single one of the Robins and even both of the Batgirls. What, you didn't know there was a Batgirl that wasn't Barbara? Strength wise? They are actually almost even, shockingly enough. Jason is built more like a lifter, Dick is built more like a swordsman. A swordsman's muscles are tighter than a lifters. This makes them more compact while being just as strong. Jason absolutely has more resilience. However their will is even. Dick went through a LOT of crap. Jason went through the pit but how one ends up is always completely up to the writers. If we actually went with the proper original lore of the pit, anyone revived using it is stripped of their morality completely and will NEVER regain it. That is it, the only negative to using it. No one would go mad, or shift their personality to something opposite like we see in various places. Anything that isn't the simple removal of morality is the writer getting it wrong. Thus, ignore the pit entirely.
@shmeebs387
@shmeebs387 10 ай бұрын
Jason doesn't have the most varied training. Everyone forgets Dick was with the Titans for years 24/7. Dick knows Amazonian, Atlantean, Tamaranean martial arts as well. He also went with Batman during the 52 year after Infinite Crisis when Batman redid all his old training. Dick has all of Batman's training and much much more. He also has circus training since he was a baby. Plus, training only goes so far. Dick is THE best athlete on the planet, too. He's a physical freak, a prodigy. Pick a sport, and he'd probably be the best in the world at it. He is able to utilize that training better.
@OnyxDStone
@OnyxDStone 10 ай бұрын
@@huntertezz Potential doesn't mean anything if is isn't utilized... I mean.. look at Dragon ball's use of Gohan.... Unlimited Potential... and they just never utilized him properly to take the place that even the Creator wanted him to take. Cell Saga was ment to be Gohan's step forward but studio wanted Goku.. even when they could of did it in GT.. what did we get... Goku being turned into a kid to Dragon Ball again with Z and GT upgrades and now it's not even Canon. Damian has Potential.. but if they don't dev and work his character right... he'll become a Gohan or worse... they can over correct and make him a Mary Stu... and no one wants that
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog 10 ай бұрын
I'll tell you one thing. Both Nightwing and Red Hood had school'd Damian. Lol
@KneeSlapper18
@KneeSlapper18 10 ай бұрын
Batman beyond vs night wing
@bloodangel19
@bloodangel19 10 ай бұрын
​@@KneeSlapper18tbh Terry is kinda....weak.
@huntertezz
@huntertezz 10 ай бұрын
So? Its a 10 year old kid against better trained adults. Put adult Damian he destroys both of them.
@InvisibleMan849
@InvisibleMan849 10 ай бұрын
Respectfully would have to disagree but wouldnt red hood and nightwing still have more experience by the time damian grows up (injustice nightwing was bs that dont count)​@huntertezz
@huntertezz
@huntertezz 10 ай бұрын
@@InvisibleMan849 experience isn't everything. Damian has alot if talent and is only held back by his young age. (No one counts injustice Damian he sucks) We have seen more adult Damian like the one in Beyond who was stated to be better than prime Bruce and was destroying Terry. Also most versions of Damian gain magic when they are adults.
@Mike-fc9bx
@Mike-fc9bx 10 ай бұрын
They're both the better versions of what batman is meant to be just one is the closet to being his successor
@Mike-fc9bx
@Mike-fc9bx 10 ай бұрын
@Gamer_Wolf. yes Batman is not meant to be a killer however even Bruce would and should admit some people deserve to die. Dick is the clear version of Batman is meant to be , Jason is willing to do what Bruce won’t when the world needs it.
@yoda5436
@yoda5436 10 ай бұрын
@@Mike-fc9bxno batman is meant to be like bruce, 100% dedicated and torturing himself to make sure hes 100% dedicated, all things dick just wouldn't do, batman doesn't want dick to be batman because he is better than that mantle, he's beyond it, dick is nightwing, jason is redhood batman's successor is terry mcguiness
@DeathCollateral
@DeathCollateral 10 ай бұрын
@@Mike-fc9bx No, not by being murdered. Batman’s ideology is to try and save everyone, even the ones that don’t deserve it.
@sebastianchiquetebustamant4032
@sebastianchiquetebustamant4032 7 ай бұрын
Nop, just Nightwing, Dick Grayson is batman's biggest achievement while Jason is his wor'st fail
@itzthundertv
@itzthundertv 2 ай бұрын
@@sebastianchiquetebustamant4032 still the second best fighter hes taught thou
@alliasstar7289
@alliasstar7289 10 ай бұрын
Nightwing is equal to Batman. Even Batman acknowledges this. And in some iterations he's actually superior to Batman
@MILOPETIT
@MILOPETIT 8 ай бұрын
I saw someone say that Nightwing is the true Batman successor, but I think Batman himself would agree that would be a downgrade for Dick
@supra2349
@supra2349 10 ай бұрын
I'm not that big of a red hood fan, but I don't think this is a "Isn't even close" fight, since red hood confirmed that he's always holding back when fighting batman, Red hood might also seem always angry, but almost in every comic he is in, he's always the most calm, it's just his tone of voice, Not to mention he was also the only one to take out a large talon alone, while Tim and damian needed to help each other, He is also always holding back against everyone in the bat family, when he fought Cassandra, Tim, and nightwing and winning the fight, yes he got pinned but it was cuz he's holding back, he could've killed dick with the train but he decided to save him instead, and he knocked out Cassandra several times with only landing a few hits on him, and Tim DIDN'T even stand a chance, Jason/ Red hood, also already dog walked damian while he was drunk and damian was in rage, also that "dick knocked out Cassy with one punch' was just one comic, cuz in a different one dick didn't even stand a chance, while Jason has beaten her multiple times, he easily beats Shiva trained Man-bats SHIVE TRAINED, the woman who batman considers as the best fighter in the whole world, he is also MUCH faster and has the same level iq as Tim, he humiliated Tim a bunch of times, and he also was able to break in to Tim's hq, which Tim stated to be impossible to break into, he also humiliated Tim in fight while he was BLIND, he also fought a large group of talons and KO'd almost all of them, not to mention they had guns, was able to take out Cassandra while following him stealthily (I just started reading red hood comics last week so I wanted to brag abt his feats LMAO, and also this is just the tip of the Jason Todd FEATS)
@guevarraharyemmanuel7980
@guevarraharyemmanuel7980 10 ай бұрын
I also just started reading red hood comics, I wanted to comment the same thing but looks like you already beat me to it lol
@user-lp8im7ow8s
@user-lp8im7ow8s 10 ай бұрын
The entire family was holding back more than Red Hood which he pointed out and Grayson even said he was lying about holding back too, so did Cassandra Cain. He only beat Shiva cause Shiva taught him a technique to take people like her down and it didn't work on Bronze Tiger. Jason has never defeated Cassandra in a fair fight EVER 💀 bruh stop meat riding him , he probably scales at Tim Drakes level currently or slightly above since he's willing to hurt him more.
@BlackjackHG21
@BlackjackHG21 10 ай бұрын
​@@user-lp8im7ow8sYou haven't read any Red Hood comics have you? Jason is easily on the same level as Dick, they're is a reason they were the originals, He is one the only people to beat and outsmart Batman in their first fight. He outsmarted and broke the grip of Supergirl with the venom drug He beat Deathstroke and an upgraded Ras Al Ghul, two people said to be on the same level as the Batman himself. Knocked Lobo out with a crowbar. Tanked a missile shot at submarine underwater which he punched a whole through. Cut off a massive dinosaur's head with the All Blades, Kicked the door off a plane going over 500 mph, Lighting quick reaction speed and agility dodging a bullet point blank, Fought and dodged attacks from Artemis, As Robin dodged gunfire from highly experienced mobsters, Beat freeze and Nightwing to a stale mate. Stabbed Onyx before she could even notice, Broke into Titans tower beat every member without being noticed only by Tim Drake which he beat easily, Tanked hits from Bizarro, Ravager, Artemis, and Frankenstein, Sensed ships that were cloaked, Blitzed and beat a team of trained SWAT officers with practically nothing, Survived a ritual that no human has survived in a thousand years, Shot through Deathstrokes armor, which was said to be bulletproof, and straight through his arm, Beat the All Caste with help from Artemis and Arsenal, Cut a couple arrows in half with knife as they were shot at him from Speedy, trained by Oliver Queen Hit Green Arrow as he was watching him, before he could react, a guy that has split second reaction speed, Blitzed and beat a group of shooters before they could get a shot off. Is that enough? There is no way in hell that Jason, especially venomed Jason is on the level of Time Drake, who he has beaten senseless multiple times and actually killed in Battle for the Cowl. He is at least on Nightwing's level if you take his fears at face value, maybe even more, he has beaten him and Batman to a stalemate multiple different times, all with different tactics.
@williammoore-zc1df
@williammoore-zc1df 10 ай бұрын
And he survived a nuke blast that’s super human level
@_ymc_
@_ymc_ 10 ай бұрын
​@@BlackjackHG21 You should put this as a comment not only an answer People love nightwing blindy, not only for being the first robin, but because hes a mix, between Superman and Batman, because he is the representation of hope and is super hearted , and a member of The bat family with dark origin Even if tomorrow redhood wipes the floor with him with good writting and explanation, nobody will change its mind, thats the truth, its just a more loved character and famous one
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog 10 ай бұрын
The first 2 Robins.
@KingBishoop
@KingBishoop 10 ай бұрын
The cool thing about these two facing each other, you could reasonably argue for either of them winning
@papabroke7567
@papabroke7567 10 ай бұрын
Not really, Nightwing doesn’t have a single reason to lose to Red Hood
@alexanderlaird6206
@alexanderlaird6206 10 ай бұрын
@@papabroke7567 Except that he's lost to him before, which sounds like a pretty good one to me. As an aside DanCo seemed to miss this but Jason does in fact straight up have superpowers; his physicality was improved dramatically after he was revived by the Lazarus pit. In the New 52 continuity he was straight up able to rip his hand out of Supergirl's grasp, he is muuuch stronger than Dick. If you want to use the equipment he gets from the new 52 or Rebirth runs of Red Hood and the Outlaws then he also has access to an enormous arsenal of sci-fi alien weapons, extremely advanced and durable armour and a personal cloaking device. He has up and *defeated* deathsroke in a one on one fight which is not something I could ever see Dick doing alone seeing as how Slade gives all of the Teen Titans combined a hard time. Dick is one of those characters the writers are very inconsistent with power scaling-wise; some like to give him a massive hand job and say he's better than Batman, others sideline him and have him get mirked by low tier characters. I'm not even saying he'd necessarily lose, just that Red Hood would give him the fight of his life and that an author could absolutely have it go either way.
@manwithoutmercy
@manwithoutmercy 10 ай бұрын
you can't
@jrob4795
@jrob4795 10 ай бұрын
Nightwing is better than Red Hood. There is no argument.
@nextgenkilla7645
@nextgenkilla7645 10 ай бұрын
@@papabroke7567 depends, on a even fight yeah dick wins but he also isn't willing to fight dirty like Jason which if Jason does then he can beat Dick just not fairly
@charlesk2793
@charlesk2793 10 ай бұрын
Yes, Jason has been trained by Batman, as well as the people who trained Batman, as well as other masters and assassin's who are the best in their fields. Most notably, he has also been trained by Bronze Tiger as well as Lady Shiva, noted as being two of the greatest Martial Artists on earth and BOTH of them have stated that Red Hood was their greatest student. No one else boasts that claim. As far as Cassandra Cain is concerned, when Red Hood was able to get the better of her, this is significant because Cassie has always been known as the deadlier fighter between herself and Batman with Batman himself saying he couldn't take her in a fair fight. Oh, and lets not forget that Jason has been heavily trained by the All Caste. These things matter. And Jason does hold back a lot, especially when it comes to fighting his family. But the greatest moment, to me anyway, was during the Event Leviathan saga when Batman and the "Detectives" approached him in Ep. 3 of the series. This is a line-up that includes Green Arrow, Plastic Man, Manhunter, The Question, Batman, Damien Wayne's Robin and Lois Lane. The battle that happened there was epic. This meeting turned into a battle. A battle in which Jason wiped the floor with them. WIPED THE FLOOR with them. He even had time to talk to Lois after the fight she witnessed. Jason kicks their a$$es then casually walks away from Lois after she asks him a couple of questions. Just casually walks away like it was another Tuesday. He was disappointed that others may have believed he was Leviathan. The look on his face, the skill he displayed in that fight, conveyed that he was done playing around. He was calm and collected which made that fight even better. He wasn't holding back this time and it showed. After getting their a$$es handed to them, Damien states out loud to everyone present that "Jason Todd is one of the great master fighters of all time,” and Batman doesn't argue. This should've been included in this video, but it wasn't.
@user-sd4le2tk1j
@user-sd4le2tk1j 10 ай бұрын
I'm a Jason Todd fan but I haven't been able to keep up with the comics but that's awesome to know about
@UncleSarge
@UncleSarge 10 ай бұрын
Well of course it wasn't, that would go against the point of the video. Jason Todd is an absolute monster when it comes to fighting, and inconsistent writing is the only reason videos like this one are made. Jason would body Dick in a straight up fight, but because Dick is able to get under Jason's skin and he's more acrobatic/faster than Jason he would get the upper hand.
@heltongomez8865
@heltongomez8865 10 ай бұрын
Because Dick is a better fighter anyways. He is faster, smarter and much more agile. There's no reason to include that.
@charlesk2793
@charlesk2793 10 ай бұрын
@@heltongomez8865, Nightwing is more agile. I will give you that. But he is not faster than Red Hood. Nightwing definitely isn't the better fighter. He's an incredible fighter to be sure, and I love his character, but Jason was literally trained to be the best. Their power scales don't really compare. Red Hood is absolutely able to tank incredible punishment and still move forward. He also heals rapidly, though that may be a byproduct of his exposure to the Lazarus Pit. And let's not forget that when Batman feels the need to subdue Red Hood, he sends the ENTIRETY of the Bat family, including Cassandra Cain to do so and they never even get what the want. He always achieves his objective in spite of the attack. If Grayson could handle him alone then he's all that would be needed. He's never been enough to get it done. He can't get it done alone and Batman knows this, hence sending the entire family after Red Hood. Again, I'm a huge fan of Nightwing. I view him as the ideal version of goodness, power and strength. But in the case of who the most powerful fighter is, it is absolutely Jason. He just is.
@SirNoVoid
@SirNoVoid 10 ай бұрын
You typed all of this glaze but bro couldn’t even handle the joker😂
@deadacc637
@deadacc637 10 ай бұрын
To summarize: Nightwing will win because of “superior agility” and being able to get under Red Hood’s skin. Save your time & thank me later 👍🙂👍
@alpha4935
@alpha4935 10 ай бұрын
How about I thank you now, kind stranger?
@NormanOsbornMSF
@NormanOsbornMSF 10 ай бұрын
Yeah dan didn’t really explain why nightwing wins at all. But we all know nightwing would win any fight with jason anyway
@dragowolf268
@dragowolf268 10 ай бұрын
Thank you this video does not need to be thus this long
@dragowolf268
@dragowolf268 10 ай бұрын
​@@NormanOsbornMSFI think most people would think it would atleat be a close fight
@NormanOsbornMSF
@NormanOsbornMSF 10 ай бұрын
@@dragowolf268 it actually is a close fight tbh
@surajsingh1063
@surajsingh1063 10 ай бұрын
Whole bat family pack comes with a free THICK PLOT ARMOUR
@vaindsgns4974
@vaindsgns4974 9 ай бұрын
Batman said in Gotham Knights that even he was wrong for wanting Dick to be the next Batman, it was the fact that he had to be more like Nightwing.
@mr.marbles4707
@mr.marbles4707 10 ай бұрын
Hey man, I’m a big fan. Great work. Can you do a The Stalker ( Batman Beyond) vs Kraven The Hunter.
@davidjohnson5176
@davidjohnson5176 11 күн бұрын
Jason is Half dead. Super human unlocked.
@stephenchambers7972
@stephenchambers7972 10 ай бұрын
I hate when you say that red hood beat deathstroke because clearly slade was weakened by snakebite's poison and deathstroke said if he was at full strength he could have beat batman in just three moves and I believe him cause deathstroke is such a hardcore and badass character.
@JavonJennings-ql3sz
@JavonJennings-ql3sz 10 ай бұрын
Bru yea that one time any other time Batman schooled him just like everyone else man is the world greatest hand to hand combatant and he don’t even need super soldier serum unlike others with no powers he don’t need that to be the best 😂
@stephenchambers7972
@stephenchambers7972 10 ай бұрын
@@JavonJennings-ql3sz first of all slade was a top tier hand to hand fighter before the serum so what are you talking about
@spikem5950
@spikem5950 10 ай бұрын
@@JavonJennings-ql3sz There are multiple examples of the two fighting where Batman wins and multiple examples where Deathstroke wins. Stop cherry picking. Every character has their own strengths and weaknesses that can be exploited, and there's always an element of unpredictability in a fight.
@thunderlion6909
@thunderlion6909 10 ай бұрын
@@spikem5950 Plot armour bro and you know ther no way batman beatting a super soldier reguardless of training or experience.
@spikem5950
@spikem5950 10 ай бұрын
@@thunderlion6909 In a spontaneous fight, yes, Deathstroke wins nine times out of ten realistically. If Slade can plan and Bruce is caught by surprise, I see no way Bruce can win. If Bruce can plan but Slade can't, I'd put it at 8/10 on Batman's side. If they've both planned for it, it's probably a 6.5-7/10 on Slade's side. But there's still that chance. NO fight's outcome is guaranteed.
@spoiler_cc7348
@spoiler_cc7348 10 ай бұрын
I love both, but I’d also like to add that, after reading a lot of red hood, especially after he becomes a vigilante again, he’s usually calm in his fights, he always seems to be thinking how to take someone down. Even having time for sarcasm, but he’s also stated he always holds back. I still think it’s a tough fight for them both, but I think ppl need to give Jason more credit. I mean he did defeat an evil Nightwing with Vampire powers in dc vs vampires, the only reason he died was because Wonder Woman came up behind him.
@enigmadrath1780
@enigmadrath1780 9 ай бұрын
DanCo = Nightwing's physically one tough S.O.B.! Every DC animated movie = Haha! Dick's shoulder goes crick-crack! :D
@Soldout360
@Soldout360 10 ай бұрын
the bat family vs the fast and furious family
@jeremybrown9611
@jeremybrown9611 10 ай бұрын
Hol on now😂😂
@yellowsunshine4157
@yellowsunshine4157 9 ай бұрын
Plot armor vs Family power
@dayostical
@dayostical 8 ай бұрын
Family always wins in the end
@manuelenriquez5281
@manuelenriquez5281 10 ай бұрын
5:20 wrong the author of the comic himself said that Batman did not hold back in the fight with dick grayson.
@JavonJennings-ql3sz
@JavonJennings-ql3sz 10 ай бұрын
Either way Batman is the worlds hand to hand combatant you really think he going to beat his sons ofc he going to hold back against them no matter what
@brokenpaddle
@brokenpaddle 12 сағат бұрын
The thing about Jason's mental is because of the pit for the longest time, depending on the comic you read that his mental was basically shattered into fragments in a way, ending up multiple personalities or atleast split personalities to where he kills but doesn't remember because his subconscious is suppressing what he was doing.
@hanlee3345
@hanlee3345 10 ай бұрын
I think it also depends of the writers too
@MrWr4ith
@MrWr4ith 10 ай бұрын
Nightwing is the big brother of the bat family. Big brothers often nurture the family, help build them up, and more importantly for this...can dunk on their little siblings anytime they want to. They don't always do it out of respect for their role, but never forget they usually can. Nightwing doesn't school red hood as much as he can because that's little bro. He wants him to feel good and have an easier life and routinely wrecking his shit wouldn't do that.
@Jo-zz3be
@Jo-zz3be 9 ай бұрын
Man you are one of my new favorite channels, awesome content bro
@newhybrid101
@newhybrid101 10 ай бұрын
Depends on the versions, everyone is different in each universe. If we are using Injustice then Jason utterly destroys him with zero difficulty. In that universe Bane easily beat Nightwing and then Bruce came and easily defeated Bane, but in the spin off comics to Injustice 2 show Jason EASILY destroy Bruce and Bruce himself said Jason was just better. Granted that was a version of Jason who was 32 years old(yes i checked it) and probably achieved his full potential Strongest version of Jason Todd ever A lot of the time Nightwing simply has a big headstart in his progress and experience. Another universe where Jason scales above Nightwing is the Arkham games. In the prelude comics Jason is flat out unimpressed by Nightwing and Tim Drake who can barely fight Deathstroke,whom later Jason easily deflects a surprise attack from. Yes Bruce said Nightwing was the best fighter he trained but he didnt even know Jason had survived at that point and would only be comparing Nightwing to Robin Jason and Tim Drake. When Jason and Bruce first have a physical exchange they are basically even with each other,despite Bruce having a suit that is stated to make him stronger,although Bruce did seem a bit stronger when they were choking each other. The bio files say Nightwing is a NEAR rival to Bruce. Arkham Jason was also trained by Deathstroke(a privilege most versions of Jason dont have)and is a full rival to Bruce. He even temporarily put him down with a sucker punch before shooting him Deathstroke also said Jason only lost to Bruce due to his emotional state and breaking down,gameplay shows this by Jason losing his health bar even though he isnt actually really physically damaged. Overall though,yes,Nightwing will beat Red Hood a good majority of of the time in most versions. Nightwing already had an acrobatic background,has much more experience,more training and his age is actually better than Jasons as males reach their peak in their late 20s,while Jason is normally in his early 20s,which means Nightwing is more developed
@selfimprovement5873
@selfimprovement5873 10 ай бұрын
You gotta use all the versions dog
@HarambeMan
@HarambeMan 10 ай бұрын
If your using other versions, then superwing kills redhood in one punch
@Mr_acorn_exe
@Mr_acorn_exe 10 ай бұрын
​​@@HarambeMan Jason isn't stupid. He can totally figure out that he need kryptonite bullets.
@theoutlawking9123
@theoutlawking9123 10 ай бұрын
Dude, you're mostly right but even in canon, as in main universe, Jason has beaten both Dick and Bruce multiple times. Jason is a trained killer, he's a goddamn assassin, I never understand how people think the guy who kills on a regular basis, doesn't hold back and uses actual effective weaponry would lose to the guy with two sticks and no killer instinct. I get that most comic readers are nerds, not fighters or soldiers or even anyone who's ever been in a real fight but c'mon use your brains, the trained killer is not losing to guy who only knows how to fight. Comicbook nonsense makes these fighters seem like they can take on a squad of armed men armed to the teeth and win, if comics weren't written by morons, both Batman and Nightwing would be dead by now, especially with how they operate: which is refusing to use actual weapons, instead charging into battle with toys and blackbelt bullshit, like pretending to be Bruce Lee makes you bulletproof.
@theoutlawking9123
@theoutlawking9123 10 ай бұрын
​@@HarambeMan I think you mean ChickenWING is gonna get barbecued with Bullets by KING HOOD 😂
@OliversOil
@OliversOil 10 ай бұрын
Red Hood is better. I think many people forget that he is naturally peak human strength but got enhanced due to the pit. It actually increased his strength, speed, healing, etc because he had a perfect resurrection. So he is considered low super human in these levels. Nightwing may be more flexible but he isn’t faster. Only thing nightwing has is experience. Red Hood should win this fight majority of the time. If he controls his emotions he wins a fight against nightwing 9/10 times on even playing field. We actually see a version of Red Hood from a different world who mastered his emotions and is the deadliest in the bat family.
@StunningSilken
@StunningSilken 10 ай бұрын
What alternate reality Red Hood is that?
@OliversOil
@OliversOil 10 ай бұрын
@@StunningSilken I don’t remember it’s been awhile. But I also remember somewhere that Batman said something along those lines too. Jason’s weakness is always his emotions
@StunningSilken
@StunningSilken 10 ай бұрын
@@OliversOil Thanks for the output.
@StunningSilken
@StunningSilken 10 ай бұрын
@@OliversOil I just checked it out, now. Good read.
@edisonlaw934
@edisonlaw934 10 ай бұрын
I thought this fight was always close.
@malachisottile8919
@malachisottile8919 10 ай бұрын
It really is honestly
@malachisottile8919
@malachisottile8919 10 ай бұрын
It really is honestly
@StunningSilken
@StunningSilken 10 ай бұрын
It has never been close. People assume that because Jason injects himself with Venom, and he was able to get out of a restrained Supergirl's grip, that it has always been close. Supergirl wasn't even trying when that happened. Nightwing is what happens if Bruce never lost his parents.
@PrinceLobo-es8kl
@PrinceLobo-es8kl 10 ай бұрын
@@StunningSilken keep crying jason is just stronger, punching a whole through a sinking submarine , coming out of death and surviving nuke is is wayy better strength , endurance feet than anythin clown wing ever did
@PrinceLobo-es8kl
@PrinceLobo-es8kl 10 ай бұрын
@@StunningSilken Yes, Jason has been trained by Batman, as well as the people who trained Batman, as well as other masters and assassin's who are the best in their fields. Most notably, he has also been trained by Bronze Tiger as well as Lady Shiva, noted as being two of the greatest Martial Artists on earth and BOTH of them have stated that Red Hood was their greatest student. No one else boasts that claim. As far as Cassandra Cain is concerned, when Red Hood was able to get the better of her, this is significant because Cassie has always been known as the deadlier fighter between herself and Batman with Batman himself saying he couldn't take her in a fair fight. Oh, and lets not forget that Jason has been heavily trained by the All Caste. These things matter. And Jason does hold back a lot, especially when it comes to fighting his family. But the greatest moment, to me anyway, was during the Event Leviathan saga when Batman and the "Detectives" approached him in Ep. 3 of the series. This is a line-up that includes Green Arrow, Plastic Man, Manhunter, The Question, Batman, Damien Wayne's Robin and Lois Lane. The battle that happened there was epic. This meeting turned into a battle. A battle in which Jason wiped the floor with them. WIPED THE FLOOR with them. He even had time to talk to Lois after the fight she witnessed. Jason kicks their a$$es then casually walks away from Lois after she asks him a couple of questions. Just casually walks away like it was another Tuesday. He was disappointed that others may have believed he was Leviathan. The look on his face, the skill he displayed in that fight, conveyed that he was done playing around. He was calm and collected which made that fight even better. He wasn't holding back this time and it showed. After getting their a$$es handed to them, Damien states out loud to everyone present that "Jason Todd is one of the great master fighters of all time,” and Batman doesn't argue. This should've been included in this video, but it wasn't.
@l1mel1ght69
@l1mel1ght69 4 ай бұрын
5:16 the writer of that comic had stated that Bruce was not holding back.
@camaradiop3731
@camaradiop3731 10 ай бұрын
2:30 I had that comic as a teenager!!!! Go, New Teen Titans!!!! Go, Nightwing, the first and GREATEST Robin!!!! 'Nuff said (oops, wrong comic company)!!!!
@drewmeyer9679
@drewmeyer9679 2 ай бұрын
Current DC writers hate Nightwing. Nightwing has bested Batman in sparring. He’s also beaten Ras Al Gaul, Deathstroke, Wildcat, Jason Todd, Damian Wayne, etc
@williamsummerson1204
@williamsummerson1204 10 ай бұрын
I can't disagree with Daniel on nightwing taking this fight, but as a character goes i will always be a bigger fan of the red Hood.
@sigmapooper45
@sigmapooper45 10 ай бұрын
his character in under the red hood is just so sick
@williamsummerson1204
@williamsummerson1204 10 ай бұрын
Fax
@brandonroberts1638
@brandonroberts1638 2 ай бұрын
D*** has more ability, but he is definitely not more dangerous. Just like when Jason was beating the tar out of all of the sidekicks at the same time, including night wing, he explained the. Reason why he always beats them.D*** said yeah, yeah, cause you're tougher and he said, no, it's cause i'm more vicious. The level of violent action you're willing to take above.Your opponent is usually what wins in real fights
@miguelbrito2299
@miguelbrito2299 10 ай бұрын
Sentry Thor Ghost Rider Silver Surfer Adam Warlock Blue Marvel Vs Captain Atom Martian Manhunter LOBO Superman Black Adam Wonder Woman
@FredLloyd-Ward-iu4rm
@FredLloyd-Ward-iu4rm 10 ай бұрын
The question aint who wins But how long untill they destroy the universe
@JuanLegendre-ey9ty
@JuanLegendre-ey9ty 10 ай бұрын
Sentry Martian Manhunter probably GR Black Adam close victory Blue Marvel
@miguelbrito2299
@miguelbrito2299 10 ай бұрын
@@JuanLegendre-ey9ty its 2 teams haha
@volcanicmonstrosity
@volcanicmonstrosity 10 ай бұрын
DC team annihilates lmao.
@miguelbrito2299
@miguelbrito2299 10 ай бұрын
@@volcanicmonstrosity if you a dc fanboy you think like that, its a close fight wtf
@danielwesley5051
@danielwesley5051 10 ай бұрын
6:17 Uncle Ben: I’m just gonna ignore that.
@wtfesyo2831
@wtfesyo2831 10 ай бұрын
Nightwing plot armor is insane
@mouse3872
@mouse3872 10 ай бұрын
People who say this are insane of course Nightwing has plot armor... EVERY comic book superhero has plot armor unless the writers are trying to tell a specific story..
@NUCLEARDASH
@NUCLEARDASH 10 ай бұрын
@@mouse3872 thank you, ive been saying that for more than a decade now. People just repeat and repeat this shi without thinking about what theyre saying
@callmejacob3234
@callmejacob3234 9 ай бұрын
Red Hood's plot armor is also insane. Every Robin has ridiculous plot armor when they fight Batman.
@mouse3872
@mouse3872 9 ай бұрын
@@callmejacob3234 Not really up until the 2010s that Nightwing began regularly beating Batman in fights. Red Hood has beaten Batman in fights in recent years but usually there are caveats when Red Hood wins. Damian and Tim still regularly lose against Bruce 1v1 again the only time they win the writers stat some kind of Caveat like Bruce was wounded, mind controlled, or holding back. The ONLY exception to this is Nightwing which in the modern era of comics has been regularly stated by both Batman in the comics and the writers themselves to have surpassed Bruce in fighting ability. And when the two fight and Nightwing typically wins and the authors of these stories have stated that there was no holding back or caveats to these fights with the implication being that when Bruce and Nightwing go 1v1 in the comics in an equal fight Nightwing wins 7 out of 10 times
@AzmanAdli
@AzmanAdli 9 ай бұрын
One of the best video I have ever seen!!!!🐉
@49erNell
@49erNell 10 ай бұрын
Danco, can you do Nightwing vs Daredevil?
@StunningSilken
@StunningSilken 10 ай бұрын
Yes, please!
@JorgeFélixGallegosLópez-v8v
@JorgeFélixGallegosLópez-v8v 10 ай бұрын
Bane (Dc Comics) vs Ranma Saotome Pegasus Seiya vs Aquaman Batman vs X-Men Freddy Krueger vs Scarecrow (Dc Comics) Shredder vs Taskmaster
@shapedsilver3689
@shapedsilver3689 10 ай бұрын
I forget which comic it was, but I remember one where we got a little bit of Bruce’s inner monologue, and he talks about both of them. Dick, he says, is pretty much on his own level. But with Jason, he regretted even training him and letting him become Robin at all. He realized that Jason was just never on the same level as Dick in his training. Jason may have gotten more training and experience later but it’s not as if Dick spent that same time just sitting around watching TV
@kaidotsign2066
@kaidotsign2066 10 ай бұрын
Each Robin is almost an extension of Batman imo: Grayson: Pure skill Todd: Pure determination Drake: Pure intelligence Damien: Pure-blood
@andrewl.3899
@andrewl.3899 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, the real answer is just whatever the writer wants 😂
@itzthundertv
@itzthundertv 2 ай бұрын
yep stan lee jk just making a joke with him cause he appeared in a teen titans go episode
@mekingtiger9095
@mekingtiger9095 10 ай бұрын
2:46 To be fair, kevlar isn't really the strongest ballistic material out there. And even in the range of the lightweight ones, it *is* becoming outdated to UHMWPE right now as we speak.
@siralfred2446
@siralfred2446 10 ай бұрын
im sorry but it doesnt matter how many back flips you do no one is gonna dodge bullets like that unless ur spiderman and can sense the bullet before its even shot.
@Sleighofhand
@Sleighofhand 5 ай бұрын
If he is stated to be better than Deathstroke in his acrobatics he is good enough to do it easily. Because for Slade it's a superpower
@siralfred2446
@siralfred2446 5 ай бұрын
@@Sleighofhand doesnt matter, unless Nightwing can see the bullets or has the fckn speed force; hes cooked in the real world. i dont hear about any acrobats running at ppl with guns especiallybc that wont even work in the military. bc realistically thats suicide. Nightwing is only able to do this bc of the writers thats it. there is no logical reason for it so stop trying to find one. he had zero powers. he does it cause comics. thats it.
@Saiai01
@Saiai01 5 ай бұрын
​@siralfred2446 bruh you do realize this is not "real life" but a comic superheroes right...if it's "real life" then redhood shouldn't even exist since Jason literally killed by Joker so I don't get your point about bringing "real life" in a Cartoon characters😂
@siralfred2446
@siralfred2446 5 ай бұрын
@@Saiai01 im just stating the facs bro no need to get defensive 😂💯
@octs609
@octs609 4 ай бұрын
@@Saiai01 I mean regardless, a bullet moves at 343 m/s or a little less if its sub sonic, you dump 20 rounds or so, and you have red hood level aim and reaction time, your going to easily nail someone like night wing who's primary move set is melee only.
@cynicalnitro8416
@cynicalnitro8416 9 ай бұрын
Dick would win even if it wasn't stated in the video... Dick is the older brother that is beloved and respected by ALL of his siblings... It isn't just an endearing personality that makes for a situation like that.
@chrisveiders1014
@chrisveiders1014 10 ай бұрын
Red hood has more training with both the all caste and the league of assassin's and he also trained under batman
@Bl0cksy
@Bl0cksy 10 ай бұрын
Nightwing became the court of owls most desdly assassin
@chrisveiders1014
@chrisveiders1014 9 ай бұрын
@@Bl0cksy the all caste might be ancient but they are considered to be on the same level as Trigons children
@noBody-ue6cs
@noBody-ue6cs 9 ай бұрын
Night wing got his acrobat stats boosted when he FRICKED Harley Quinn
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog 10 ай бұрын
I can see this fight happening over Starfire.
@Shohoku00
@Shohoku00 10 ай бұрын
Why? Star is (with Barbara) the main girl involved with Dick. I doubt that Jason cares in any shape or form for her, the moment that kind of linked them was only one of the many horrific decision the New 52 had. I can see them fighting for the Batman mantel, but we all know the outcome of that.
@ericlayton8888
@ericlayton8888 10 ай бұрын
@@Shohoku00actually Jason always had a major crush on Babs when he was Robin and Dick’s mistreatment of her contributed to a lot of J’s early resentment towards him
@Shohoku00
@Shohoku00 10 ай бұрын
@@ericlayton8888 I can see them clash due to that, I agree. OG comment was talking about Starfire though
@itzthundertv
@itzthundertv 2 ай бұрын
ofc jason never gets the girl
@felixthewolf7147
@felixthewolf7147 10 ай бұрын
I personally think that we cant compare the two considering dick has gotten a lot more representation in media and comics compared to Jason, witch is why Jason seems to have a lot less feats, that's because he doesn't have more feats and has been in nightwing's shadow for a very long time. In my honest opinion i think the fight could go either way.
@JorgeFélixGallegosLópez-v8v
@JorgeFélixGallegosLópez-v8v 10 ай бұрын
Light Yagami vs Riddler Batman vs Charlotte Katakuri Naruto Uzumaki vs Captain America Joker (DC Comics) vs Daredevil Kingpin (Marvel) vs Red Hood
@jeremiahgulliver836
@jeremiahgulliver836 10 ай бұрын
Batman vs katakuri is a mismatch. Naruto vs cap America is a mismatch also
@ASS-tb3mq
@ASS-tb3mq 10 ай бұрын
Batman vs Katakuri is insane 💀 I love Batman he’s the absolute goat but katakuri wouldn’t even need haki not his devil fruit powers to beat him Base Batman is losing
@andrewvalentine6977
@andrewvalentine6977 10 ай бұрын
Think it depends on Naruto's age when fighting Captain America as I think 12 years old Naruto would lose where as Hagaki (unsure of spelling) Naruto would wreck Captain America.
@malickdiagne4955
@malickdiagne4955 10 ай бұрын
Glad you clarified towards the end, I definitely agree in the case that you laid out.
@LeonardoTyrone-sr4qz
@LeonardoTyrone-sr4qz 10 ай бұрын
I love Jason todd, aka Red Hood, and I would love him to be Batman, but Nightwing definitely beats him and you said before in the first match Dick wins both in comic and your opinion and he might win here too.
@sauce8277
@sauce8277 10 ай бұрын
I can’t believe people ever took Damien seriously. That character should have been refused and went out of business just like Disney these days. Don’t settle for cringe characters as your heroes.
@IsaiahRichards-un9eu
@IsaiahRichards-un9eu 10 ай бұрын
Dude this is easy Dick Grayson Nightwing (The Flying Grayson) Wins Easy. He was trained by his Dad Bruce Wayne BATMAN (The Dark Knight).... Facts NightWing Wins!!!!!
@user-zq3gy7mk3t
@user-zq3gy7mk3t 9 күн бұрын
The same nightwing who slipped and broke his neck yeah ok
@rodyvanhulst
@rodyvanhulst 10 ай бұрын
You forgot the most imortant Red hood feat: He was trained by the All-Caste ! On paper the red hood should be better than Nightwing but i agree that in most comics he isent. After Training with Batman and dying and being revived Jason Todds meets the All-Caste and even with the training from Batman he cant land a single punch on the All-Caste leader and she knocks him out with one blow ! After this he goes to a training that only one in 10.000 survive and he becomes stronger than the All-Caste leader. So on paper the All-Caste training is better than Batmans training and he should be better than Nightwing.
@huntertezz
@huntertezz 10 ай бұрын
Jason didn't get the full Batman training. And we don't really know how All Castle compares to Batman. And also Nightwing had a lifetime of Court of Owls training on top of what he got Batman and various other masters he trained
@rodyvanhulst
@rodyvanhulst 10 ай бұрын
@@huntertezz he did get enough Batman training that he could beat every member of the league of shadow and could predict every one of Batmans moves. So i would say a lot of Batman training and it wasent even good enough to touch a member of the all caste.
@NUCLEARDASH
@NUCLEARDASH 10 ай бұрын
He got some Part of the batman training and defeated the all caste leader about, at least, 20 years after their prime. Not that much impressive. Also, the training is just part of the process, the person whos training are as important. Nightwing born training acrobatics with the flying graysons, dude just born to move. Jason was more forced to it than anything else.
@rodyvanhulst
@rodyvanhulst 10 ай бұрын
@@NUCLEARDASH again with the Batman training he could predict every move and attack Batman made years later so it wasent just a "part" of training. Also not being able to land a punch on all caste with Batman training which was also enough to beat many League of shadow members to defeat the all caste definitely shows that this training is important.
@huntertezz
@huntertezz 10 ай бұрын
@@rodyvanhulst Maybe if he got the full bat training Jason would have beaten the ones from all castle. Like none of those guys are even in the top 10 of fighters in dc. Also beating league of assassin members is nothing big in the grand scheme of things. Even Barbara has beaten them in her wheelchair. Anyone with atleast the minimum bat training should be able to do that unless they hire Lady Shiva.
@tonyah.960
@tonyah.960 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the outstanding show today!
@heavenly2k
@heavenly2k 2 ай бұрын
Not even 5 minutes in and Nightwing is basically a Mary sue lol.
@Parkerszn7
@Parkerszn7 10 ай бұрын
I don’t no what blud is yapping about but I know this fight is close I don’t even need to watch the vid
@dezaina9961
@dezaina9961 10 ай бұрын
7:07 wasn’t deathstroke nerfed in this fight?
@kenshin6836
@kenshin6836 10 ай бұрын
Yeah death stroke always nerfed
@dezaina9961
@dezaina9961 10 ай бұрын
@@kenshin6836 thank you.
@nukenarwhal7244
@nukenarwhal7244 10 ай бұрын
Video had me rolling my eyes the moment you tried to imply the lean 170lb nightwing is stronger then 210lb Jason Todd who has literally been enhanced physically by his revival. Jason is literally the only member the of bat family that is Batman’s size. Like every writer of DC would disagree instantly if asked if nightwing was physically stronger. Like how you think the sub feat is losing to an orca bite
@s4mur4rtist21
@s4mur4rtist21 10 ай бұрын
in current comics dick grayson is batman's equal in terms of fighting and has actually beaten bruce multiple times without either of them holding back
@justinwahlquist6374
@justinwahlquist6374 10 ай бұрын
I say they both good in they own way. 50/50
@thebaldpizzaman6319
@thebaldpizzaman6319 10 ай бұрын
Abilities measured by video feats: Strength: Equal. Both have lifted heavy ass structures, such as a big rock or a roof, whilst maintaining enough control to speak. Any type of speed/agility: Dick Grayson. Pretty understandable. Durability: Jason. A nuclear blast is a pretty high durability feat. Skill/BIQ: Dick. Both are skilled, but Dick measures out just because of his feats against Batman. Attack Potency: Jason. Punching through the hole of a submarine, a vessel designed to withstand tons and tons of water forces is a pretty big feat. Destructive Capabilities: Jason, but only because bullet holes. Doesn’t really matter anyway. IQ: Not at all mentioned. Feats: I mean, this is measured by feats already. Stamina/Endurance: Dick. Desert survival without water or food is crazy. Hax/Plot Armor: Dick. Offense: Jason. He’s a offensive guy. Defense: Dick. Most of his skill is centered around defense, like dodging bullets.
@thebaldpizzaman6319
@thebaldpizzaman6319 10 ай бұрын
Extra Notes: Both have beat the shit out of Damian Wayne.
@davongriffin2898
@davongriffin2898 10 ай бұрын
Here are additional reasons why Red Hood has the edge over Nightwing and why the comparison between the two is not even close: 1. Combat Experience and Training: Red Hood has had a more diverse range of combat experiences compared to Nightwing. After his resurrection, he spent years honing his skills by traveling the globe and training with different mentors, including the League of Assassins. This exposure to various fighting styles and techniques gives him a more versatile approach to combat. In contrast, Nightwing's training primarily came from Batman, which, while extensive, is limited to a specific style. 2. Fearlessness and Ruthlessness: Red Hood possesses a fearlessness and ruthlessness that sets him apart from Nightwing. He is willing to go to extreme lengths to achieve his goals, even if it means crossing moral boundaries. This mindset gives Red Hood an unpredictable edge in battle, as he is not bound by the same moral constraints as Nightwing. He is willing to make difficult choices and take risks that Nightwing might hesitate to take, giving him a decisive advantage. 3. Tactical Thinking and Adaptability: Red Hood's time as a vigilante has forced him to develop exceptional tactical thinking and adaptability. He has proven time and time again that he can outmaneuver opponents and exploit their weaknesses. Red Hood's ability to think on his feet and adapt his strategies mid-fight gives him the upper hand against Nightwing, who may rely more on his acrobatic skills and established techniques. 4. Arsenal and Gadgets: Red Hood is known for his extensive arsenal of weapons and gadgets, which gives him an added advantage over Nightwing. He is equipped with firearms, explosives, and various cutting-edge gadgets that he utilizes to gain the upper hand in combat situations. While Nightwing also possesses gadgets, Red Hood's arsenal is more extensive and allows him to level the playing field against opponents with superior physical abilities. 5. Psychological Warfare: Red Hood's brutal and unrelenting approach to crime-fighting includes the use of psychological warfare. He knows how to exploit his opponents' fears, weaknesses, and emotions to gain an advantage. This psychological aspect of his tactics can destabilize even the most skilled opponents, including Nightwing, who may not be as experienced in this type of warfare. In summary, Red Hood's combat experience, fearlessness, ruthlessness, tactical thinking, adaptability, arsenal, and psychological warfare give him a clear advantage over Nightwing. While Nightwing is undoubtedly a formidable hero in his own right, Red Hood's unique combination of skills, experiences, and mindset make the comparison between the two characters one-sided. Red Hood's versatility, unpredictability, and willingness to push boundaries set him apart as a superior opponent.
@jakebraz3265
@jakebraz3265 10 ай бұрын
All that just to get begged by nightwing every time they fight is wild
@docproc144
@docproc144 10 ай бұрын
Alfred has said that Dick Grayson is the greatest fighter he’s ever seen, perhaps even greater than Bruce himself.
@user-zq3gy7mk3t
@user-zq3gy7mk3t 9 күн бұрын
Your a nightwing fan you literally just gave red hood better battle feats other than the same exact feats nightwing has plus more than you go and say nightwing wins everything you literally said contradict your results tf
@battletoys1645
@battletoys1645 10 ай бұрын
Nightwing's weakness is his head, redhood's weakness is a crowbar.
@johnashton4776
@johnashton4776 10 ай бұрын
Great video 😊.
@davidbest1403
@davidbest1403 10 ай бұрын
Batman wasn’t holding back when he lost to nightwing, the writer even said so. They both went all out
@milk7315
@milk7315 10 ай бұрын
This video made my imagination think that being a normal human being could be a super power
@gcardona4678
@gcardona4678 10 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Jason is STRONGER than Dick and Bruce, also I think that Bruce is also stronger than Dick. But Dick is the fastest and the most agile. Also, another thing to say, is that Jason and Bruce are bigger than Dick, so even if they were the same character, if one is heavier and bigger, is gonna be strongest. Now, about technique, I think honestly that Dick is close to Batman, and Jason is behind them. So in general, I think that Bruce still win this. But if those 3 are in his Prime, Dick 1st Jason close 2nd and Bruce 3rd. Sons are meant to overpass their fathers, that's why I will never have children, nobody is gonna beat me.
@dc7981
@dc7981 10 ай бұрын
Strength basically means nothing when Dick fights Slade a superhuman like what.... every other week or something?
@d1poorpeoplehater
@d1poorpeoplehater 10 ай бұрын
i think the reason people think red hood would beat nightwing is because red hood just shoots and kills people, nightwing doesn't.
@theoutlawking9123
@theoutlawking9123 10 ай бұрын
Well yeah, one is a trained assassin and marksman, the other guy just knows martial arts. A boxer vs. A Navy SEAL basically, comicbook nonsense loves to make the lesser/weaker opponent who would lose and most certainly die in real life, win.
@fredrickambrose9816
@fredrickambrose9816 4 ай бұрын
It's simple nightwing is like captain america+spiderman+daredevil and red hood is like punisher+winter solider
@JacobbbXD
@JacobbbXD 10 ай бұрын
bro nightwing is so tough... he died falling on a rock😂😂
@shadekage01
@shadekage01 7 ай бұрын
Title "It isnt even close" - Proceeds to explain how they are soo similar in power and fighting
@creativename724
@creativename724 10 ай бұрын
Nightwing has been said to be Batmans greatest accomplishment as a sidekick, because Dicks training was the best (and longest) out of the bat-family
@Sun-Warrior1911
@Sun-Warrior1911 8 ай бұрын
I guess we know why they keep killing, nerfing, or humiliating him in the movies & games. He’s too close to Batman’s level!!
@nickwierenga987
@nickwierenga987 Ай бұрын
And then he is killed by accidentally hitting his head on a rock...smh....
@Nic0724
@Nic0724 10 ай бұрын
if i was red hood i’d make a suit explosion proof after joker…, nvm💀
@ibannash
@ibannash 10 ай бұрын
This video emphasizes perfectly why I rarely read comics. Its like consistent logic is a joke to these writers and they just wanna make someone as strong as possible regardless of whether it makes sense.
@JacobHall2009
@JacobHall2009 3 ай бұрын
Nightwing to Batman is what is the Falcon is to Captain America.
@JasnoCreed
@JasnoCreed 10 ай бұрын
the bias in this video is absurd. i dont wanna be the um actually guy, but u clearly dont know alot about red hood, fully read his n52 run, read red hood lost days, and read leviathan, hes insanely strong
@jaylinroberts2526
@jaylinroberts2526 Ай бұрын
Damien enters the chat! Tho I'm pissed he died such a dumb way
@kingcobra2858
@kingcobra2858 10 ай бұрын
Seeing Dick's feats made me realized his death in Injustice unrealistic.
@Godzillaiscool0721
@Godzillaiscool0721 7 ай бұрын
Don’t forget task force Z when Jason took on Nightwing, Tim Drake, and Cassandra Cain all at once and only lost because he got sucker punched while he was saving Nightwing’s life.
@SlimeBabyTV
@SlimeBabyTV 8 ай бұрын
If you die and come back, you’re automatically stronger than the first guy lol
@AhmedhassanQaisrani-b4l
@AhmedhassanQaisrani-b4l 2 ай бұрын
Nah dude surviving a nuke and guns that can destroy night wings armour you got to be kidding me 😂
@CptCrash21
@CptCrash21 10 ай бұрын
King has said Batman was not holding back in their epic batcave fight & he considers Dick the superior fighter. Dick has trained with more people than just Bruce. The "Batman taught him everything he knows" line of thinking is shit. He went beyond his training with Bruce. Babs, Alfred, Selina, and others in the family have said they consider them equals.
@dominicberry5445
@dominicberry5445 10 ай бұрын
Doesn’t the Lazarus Pitt give you superhuman strength and speed?
@Angellance7
@Angellance7 10 ай бұрын
These are two of my favorite characters, so might as well recommend to do my other 2: Superboy VS Kyle Rayner
@apexgaming7457
@apexgaming7457 10 ай бұрын
Pretty familar with red hood but always felt it was odd when he was "in the batfamily" but didn't mind killing, those two seem exclusive to each other
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 10 ай бұрын
Happy Friday!
@TheDjbenton
@TheDjbenton 10 ай бұрын
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