Why Batman VS Spider-Man Isn't Even Close!

[@oldjebidiahbrown2454]

As a batman fan I do agree. Peter definitely hella op. Batman would need alot of plot armor, prep time, and planning to take down Spiderman.

[@patrickturk8957]

Why you agree?

[@oldjebidiahbrown2454]

@@patrickturk8957 because Spiderman is very powerful and his spidey sense would also make all of Batmans stealth attempts useless. If Batman can't stealthily plan ahead of his enemies, he can't take them down

[@skaraturbo]

@@oldjebidiahbrown2454 Yeah he can he would come up with something that would nullifie the spider sense and make spiderman weaker hes beaten the entire Justice Leuge whos a million times stronger then spidey

[@oldjebidiahbrown2454]

@@skaraturbo because he knew the justice league and was able to plan ahead and get to know their weaknesses by fighting along side them. If Batman just encounters Spiderman and knows nothing about him, he's not winning that engagement because Batmans power is in his skill, intelligence, and planning while Spidermans power is in his reaction time, agility, super strength, durability, and he's pretty comparable to Batman in intelligence, especially for his younger age.

[@patrickturk8957]

@@oldjebidiahbrown2454 Batman can neutralize Spiderman web shooters. If Cap can beat Spiderman one on one in civil war then Batman can absolutely beat him. Batman can slip something in there during the fight without Spiderman even knowing. Batman in far superior in intelligence and planning

[@IamGrief887]

Peter would hold back until something prompts him to definitively conclude the matter.

[@michaeldixon3440]

Very true.

[@nocapneverbrokeagain1774]

😂😂😂💯

[@oscarinacan]

Hey bats, forgot i have a Chem lab to get to. Thwip thwip, takes off and gets an A

[@warangelcloud]

Spider-man has to hold back. I mean a regular punch from Spidey has knocked out a T-rex. Spidey has also trained with Wolvrine, who has samurai training. Peter is also pretty smart. The guy has worked and fought some of the smartest guys in Marvel from Tony Stark to Doc Ock Heck he's dven helped bout the X-men. And they have Professor X and Beast. Spider-man is kind of crazy stat wise..

[@h_X_f-]

I would love to see batfleck against Spider-Man 😂

[@JunkAccount-ig8st]

People underestimate Spiderman. His combination of speed, strength, agility, and the angles he can fight from make him an incredible threat.

[@AARONANCE]

Batman teams up with Venom. The symbiote fuses with Batman to confuse Spidey's spider-sense. The story writes itself.

[@Wheretheicecreamatinthisjoint]

@@AARONANCEthen Peter lights him on on fire ggs no re

[@AARONANCE]

@@Wheretheicecreamatinthisjoint Batman would be prepared for a fire attack 🔥

[@Wheretheicecreamatinthisjoint]

@@AARONANCE Spider-Man make loud noise. Batman no like.

[@AARONANCE]

@@Wheretheicecreamatinthisjoint Batman installs a sound deadening feature over a certain frequency inside his cowl because he's smart enough to know Venom's weaknesses

[@Ricky911_]

Being realistic, Batman just has a ton of plot armour. No matter how strong or how smart he gets, its not even questionable that someone like Spider-Man would beat him

[@jaydenglimsboro2309]

And also Batman’s combat advantages are also just moot. As Spider-Man is so much physically superior to him that it wouldn’t matter

[@angrysmoli]

peter has plot armour too. he has an entire multiverse that revolves around his very existence. bruce had his dark metal, but peter has had several Spider-verses. if plot armour is a thing, its a moot point

[@johnmaddox5415]

If batman got plot armor then so does iron man

[@ThePubstersForever]

Spidey Sense = The OG Ultra Instinct

[@TokerJoker420]

Sonic batarang and cholophoric gas and Spider sense is disabled Spiderman is no match to Batmans martial arts skill and once his spidersense is disabled Batman wins easily

[@SØA_Ty]

@@TokerJoker420he getting no prep time 😂

[@TokerJoker420]

@@SØA_Ty Batman has that on his utility belt he fights poison ivy whos has the same weakness

[@SØA_Ty]

@@TokerJoker420 how he gone know he has spidey sense 😭

[@TokerJoker420]

@@SØA_Ty observation and by seeing him dodge his attack he would tell he has highten senses and batman can take out a sonic batarang throw it and it pretty mess up his spidersense chloride gas and spray deployed spiderman will imeddiatly lose his powers and feel very weak like superman with kryptonite and game over Batman wins

[@WillyGilligan]

Spiderman is a class 10 superhero. Batman is peak human, which doesnt even equal class one. Each class equates to being able to bench press 1 ton (2,000 lbs) Spiderman can bench at least 10 tons (20,000 lbs). A body which can withstand that much weight can withstand anything Batman can dish out.

[@darthrevan2081]

Yeah nooooo the only think that Batman has is plot armor.

[@maskedmarvyl4774]

Batman is a billionaire and has a butler.

[@Blackwarrior7585]

He’s above 10 tons

[@WillyGilligan]

@@Blackwarrior7585 I'm going by Marvel database. They say he can lift a minimum of 10 tons. In 616 universe, they said he was a class 10 superhero. 1 ton per class.I imagine he can lift probably close to 15 under extreme circumstances. Like when he's extremely angry.

[@Blackwarrior7585]

@@WillyGilligan he’s does not lift 10 tons he lifts over

[@dariusgordon2266]

Spidey also has his brain and gadgets too. Which makes this fight even more interesting his favor

[@patrickturk8957]

Who you got winning?

[@dariusgordon2266]

@@patrickturk8957 it depends on the context of the fight. Spider-Man holds back a whole lot just like Supes, and that could definitely be a reason for him to lose. But I got Spidey 6/10 or 7/10

[@patrickturk8957]

@@dariusgordon2266 Spiderman can only do so much. Batman can manipulate Spiderman

[@dyreman20]

​@@patrickturk8957he can do everything a spider can... and more. There's no way Batman can keep up with his agility, speed, strength, smarts, as well as spider senses.

[@patrickturk8957]

@@dyreman20Batman is way more intelligent than Peter.

[@tnsxpm]

no prep? he better hope spiderman still pulling punches 😂

[@GKinslayer]

WITH prep he better hope Peter pulls his punches.

[@KcutcheyXD449]

Honestly that's probably about the only weakness that would be in favor of Batman at this point lol dude better figure out how to make Spider-Man like him quick so that he would feel bad for kicking his ass so bad haha

[@ltsMotion]

@@GKinslayerglazers 😫

[@BatmanfrmDaX]

@@ltsMotionbro I’m a Batman fan even I can admit spider man slams my hero that I grew up on

[@thesymbiotenation.4552]

​@@BatmanfrmDaXYeah... Spider-Man is just that broken

[@johnb3829]

I agree completely, I’ve been arguing this idea for years. Spidey would wipe the floor with Batman.

[@projectf025]

And thats without batting a lash

[@donellebullock7404]

People forget some things with Peter. 1) He has two villain types that are basically The Bat that Laughs. (the goblins and Carnage) 2) He has more experience with a wider pool than Bats in combat. Literally around 75%+ of his rouges were made to specifically counter him while bats are either smart or strong, rarely both. 3) Sidey has a lot of tools too. -Spider-tracers that tap into his Spider-Sense. -Camera -Flaslight -Built-in gas mask (usually) -Night-vision transitional lens. -Various web types (electro, cement, fire, etc.) 4) Sidey is as smart, or possibly smarter, than Tony and Hank since he builds his stuff from garbage. 5) Spidey holds back, even when angry. As he can rip you head off with ease by holding your face alone with a single hand.

[@mamaaja9825]

so thats it?batman is the smartest guy in his universe he can fools a multidimensional being, you're acting like batman can't beat superman,flash,darkseid,wonderwoman,a supersoldier like bane and deathstroke😂man he fight super op beings that can oneshot avengers so what is spiderman?

[@donellebullock7404]

@@mamaaja9825All with prep. As it shows in his stories, without it and the right tool, he is defenseless. Bane's literal introduction has him nearly pitting Bruce into retirement. Even Carnage AND Venom, who are at least twice as strong as Spidey, couldn't dot that to him. These same being you mentioned beat him as well. Your point doesn't have as much merit when Spidey took on the same and won as well. Only difference, Spidey still holds back, Bats don't usually. He stops short of killing, if human or human-like. Spidey. Being multi-dimensional, which we are, doesn't mean your intelligence or critical thinking is higher. Look at Dark Sied, Lex is a level 12 and he isn't despite being a whole dimension. Spidey made a time machine with household parts.

[@Man-dd7fd]

Did you just compare Green Goblin and Carbsge to the Batman Who Laughs? Spider-Man definitely beats Batman but BWL is a multi dimensions being taking over worlds soloing the JL, he’s stupidly OP.

[@donellebullock7404]

@@Man-dd7fdTalking about the fact that you have TWO villains that are like the Joker and with the tech of Bats. People forget the Goblin is magical too, and has had things on par with planet level stuff. Carnage as well is magical, and nearly killed everything on Earth at once. Spdey beat Doom, who is tied with Strange, a being who can directly go against things decided by the Living Tribunal, the governor of the entire multiverse.

[@windghost2]

@@donellebullock7404 Carnage is also a god now, along with venom.

[@mandolorian162]

Guy who has to try his hardest to keep up with even the weak members of his team, vs a guy who pulls his punches so he doesnt hurt anyone and has floored the strongest of his team in multiple fight

[@unknownplayer7190]

Which one is the first one you mentioned ?

[@AARONANCE]

Batman/Venom team up. The symbiote fuses w Batman to confuse Spidey's spider-sense. Batman continues to think 10 steps ahead, like when he beat Superman. The story writes itself.

[@SupremeB_07]

@@AARONANCEoh venom Batman? Then I could do Peter as superior spider man, someone who doesn’t hold back his punches and has insane iq (dock ock). Or I could even do anti venom Peter which absolutely demolishes venom and Batman is back to his plain old self :)

[@AARONANCE]

@@SupremeB_07 technically, anti-venom & superior spiderman haven't been introduced in the Sony, DC or Marvel cinematic universe yet, so Batman would be up against regular Spiderman, with the possibility of a Venom crossover. I should go touch grass now

[@SupremeB_07]

@@AARONANCE technically Batman hasn’t been introduced to marvel :/

[@drewcasper4608]

Batman gets stomped by like 90 percent of the people he fights when he doesn’t have plot armor. He literally shoots a guy with a bullet that is literally described as faster than a speeding bullet

[@IgnacyOlszewski-i9w]

in batman arkham knight there is something like fear takedown and just look how fast that is and if bruce has prep time he will just defeat almost everyone

[@paulpierre4895]

Spider man is crazy lol bro and doesn’t need amor 😂

[@lra8068]

Batman> marvel

[@SpideyWebSlinger111]

no you clearly don't understand the character

[@serdarcam99]

As Stan Lee once said ''whoever can win if writers decide to do '' and we saw in comics batman overpowering superhumans without having any powers

[@MontgomeryQuin]

Putting Batman against Spider Man without prep time is like comparing a baby with asthma in the winter vs John wick it doesn't make sense.

[@patrickturk8957]

How?

[@SupremeB_07]

@@patrickturk8957💀😭

[@blazypoo1723]

Even with prep time it doesn't make much difference. Spider-Man is on par with Bat-Man in terms of intelligence, damn near a super genius. He's been recognized by Reed Richards for his intelligence on multiple occasions, and Reed is the smartest man in his verse in most iterations.

[@bigcharlie8694]

If a character needs prep time for the majority of matchups, then they should probably just not be compared to in a fight.

[@iguiste23]

Good luck to John Wick lol.

[@yeyoandrew1987]

“Wins who ever the writer wants” - Stan Lee

[@uchenavuite]

Yes u are right, I'm always gonna think that Peter is better but DC jst don't give limits to Batman prepare like they already make him build a machine to stop time jst to bit Flash like wtf, and also make him figure out a way to write and manipulate the reality, he's clearly the favorite 😭😭😭

[@jacobcummings5825]

@@uchenavuitecanon spiderman is friends with the fantastic 4. Reed Richards’s ring a bell? He’s got the same tech if not better than Batman. Spider-Man also knows Tony Stark. There’s no rules that indicates that Spider-Man can’t utilize any resources within reason that’s canon. Spider-Man is also a genius too. Bruce is smarter in some areas such as with detective skills but Peter is smarter in the realm of science and engineering. Batman only wins if he has prep time while spiderman doesnt. If it’s a random encounter fight or both have prep time, spiderman easily takes this

[@herbderbler1585]

Many might think this is simple brains vs brawn, but Peter Parker has shown on many occasions that he's also extremely smart and capable of thinking on his feet. Prep time would not be a boon solely for Batman. Spiderman having prior intel on Batman and time to capitalize on it would be a serious problem for Bruce.

[@bryceroser3915]

Batman has billions of dollars to prep while spiderman is a struggling New York photographer. Batman should have infinitely more resources to counter spidey and it’s really not even a competition. Everyone forgets that Batman’s greatest power is money while that is Spider-Man’s greatest weakness.

[@lanecravens0065]

​@@bryceroser3915isn't Peter like an owner of a billion dollar company now? I don't think he's lacking in resources anymore

[@bryceroser3915]

@@lanecravens0065 most iterations of spiderman are either a high school student or a photographer. Batman is always rich and never seems to run out of money even after purchasing the entire justice league satellite.

[@magenta53]

One question; If Spiderman was a member of the Justice League, do you think Batman would've figured out a contingency plan to defeat him in case it came to it?? Considering he developed plans for the Leaguers who are on the level of gods

[@jacobytucker4889]

God point I would say yea but it would be a lot harder unlike the other JL members. For one because Spider-Man doesn’t have a definitive weakness like the other JL members making it harder to plan against.Spiderman is really more like Batman than any other JL member so there’s not gonna really be a lot Batman can go off of. I would say Batman’s one advantage he could have would be is Spider-Man’s willingness to hold back a lot

[@lncstr01]

He just needs to buy bayer and stock up on bugspray. Are you guys that dumb?

[@kamui_revenger7979]

that would be a no due to it being prep time and spider-man has fought task master who bread and butter is prep time, it would most likely be the contingency plan would be blank, and besides peter holds back on majority of his fights so even if batman had something, the data would be inaccurate to spidey 100% best

[@DatDarkOne]

@@kamui_revenger7979 This all of this. Doc Orc and a few other genius level villians all later found out their data on Spidey was incorrect due to Pete's tendency to hold back. Only a very few (both villians and other heroes) know just how powerful he really is.

[@josereynaud6075]

It would be a really good fight that would end up with both of them teaming to find the villain who pitted them against each other in the first place.

[@Autism_Awareness4ever]

Not to mention. Spider-Man is also highly intelligent. He created acid webbing to beat Sandman. He’s hacked into Tony Stark’s armor once. NYC’s Wall-Crawler used a hologram to navigate Mysterio’s illusion. And he created a negative suit to counter Mr. Negative’s powers…! Believe it or not! Spider-Man is way smarter than Batman in science and math. They’re subjects that he excels in.

[@jaysenbustamante9926]

He is smart but don’t forget that Batman is the smartest hero in DC comics while you have a handful of people that are smarter than Peter

[@PalpatineRules]

​@jaysenbustamante9926 Batman IQ is 192, While Spiderman IQ is 250.

[@jaysenbustamante9926]

@@PalpatineRules not canon that’s google. DC has never stated his IQ but it’s clearly in the 350+ dude is smarter than Mr. terrific who possess 14PHDs of knowledge

[@miikelofficial2500]

Spidey smarter than bat....bruce dnt even build his shii....😅😅😅😅​@@jaysenbustamante9926

[@Tension322]

@@jaysenbustamante9926nope Superman smatter than Batman he literally saw the anti life equation and figured it out and also a infinite quantum computer and the average Kryptonian has 7th dimension intellect and Superman is smarter than lex who’s on part with Batman in intelligence if not smarter

[@damianstarks3338]

Thanks for bringing this most talked about DC/Marvel match up back to our attention.

[@RandomCommentsofDoom]

I'm glad people agree with this. Even those who talk about "prep time Batman" have to concede that "prep time Spiderman" is arguably just as OP, if not more so. Spiderman imo is kind of the opposite of Batman in this way. For all the times where writers have to give Batman plot armor in order for him to win, writers often have to give Spiderman... negative plot armor in order for him to even be touched. I think this is because Spiderman as a character is often written as an underdog, he's supposed to struggle, whereas Batman is written as an established legend who's supposed to dominate.

[@Ramirez_7651]

Just when people think Batman stands a chance, they forget that Spider-Man has ALWAYS been holding back

[@zapZapLightning]

Batman smarter he can make bombs

[@divyanshahuja4630]

@@zapZapLightning Seriously, spider-man has survived point blank missile and grenades.

[@christiankibuule352]

But he’s not smarter

[@Bullrun_Rich]

Thank you, it’s a shame that we even have to have this discussion.

[@wu-bangya4486]

Facts. I love Batman...HATE Batfans

[@troykennedy7712]

That’s what I was thinking.

[@IJLook]

Also you realize how many bad Justice League writers and editors there have been

[@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79]

Yeah, this battle wouldn’t even be close.

[@AZTLANSOLDIER13]

It's due to DC delusion. They should come up with some medicine for that

[@dudewithachannel1163]

Three people making Spider-Man vs batman isnt close videos at the same time. Wild

[@webmasterd]

hopefully they all have the same conclusion. lol

[@dudewithachannel1163]

@@webmasterd, considering the competitors I'd say they will. Unless one of the videos gives one of the fighters bad calculations or an unfair advantage, but then it just isn't legitimate lol no harm done

[@michelk.8008]

I wish that Rocksteady would make Another Batman Arkham Game even if the Voice won't be the same anymore (R.I.P Kevin Conroy)

[@NormanOsbornMSF]

An arkham origins sequel with smith would be great. Also maybe an arkham style red hood solo game. But rocksteady is dead imo. Basically Their whole team that made the Arkham trilogy left before ssktjl was made

[@newhybrid101]

​@@NormanOsbornMSFCancelled Damian game>>>>>>>>>

[@jalocool2807]

Where there’s always Troy Baker (who voices, Batman and joker) at first I thought he sounds like Kevin Conroy

[@NormanOsbornMSF]

@@newhybrid101 how? Why would we want a game with damian in it? Batman beyond arkham would have been good if damian wasn’t in it 😂. How could it possibly be better than an origins sequel or even a red hood game. Nobody likes damian

[@radioraheem9820]

​@@NormanOsbornMSFcause Damian is the best

[@ShirleyWright-l1e]

People have caught Spiderman off guard plenty of times

[@SupremeB_07]

Yeah people who are peak villains

[@ego7759]

Peter Quill (star lord)…

[@Ninjersey1]

Like venom n carnage?Kraven a master hunter that’s it 😂

[@acolytewill3682]

Mysterio has messed up spiderman plenty of times

[@zane01235]

​@@acolytewill3682 The same Mysterio who can fool Logan's senses, and no doubt Dare Devils. Batman is no Mysterio

[@V12BenzAMG]

Spider-Man almost always holds back knowing the damage he could do...but when he let's it all go, like against Kingpin as Peter and not Spider-Man, he's waaay more deadly in revenge mode

[@rodgerbroadway5555]

I agree with this completely in a spontaneous fight. Understand, I'm a fan of both of these characters. Spidey would absolutely have the advantage. The first time they fight. While Batman is a master at finding weaknesses in the course of a fight, should he lose & not be killed by Spidey, he would learn by studying what went wrong & were his strengths & weaknesses are & very possibly win in a second fight.

[@igoldenknight2169]

Exactly. Batman gathers intel and escapes or survives his deadly first encounters. His superpower is to create strategy to take down opponents. Strategies that can take down opponents stronger than he is and even the most intelligent of characters don’t think of.

[@Luwaca]

​@@igoldenknight2169 he would still lose and if you really wanna talk about what they could do to win okay cool Spiderman is also one of the smartest on earth so he could just make something like better suit to make him stronger or something that would take down bat man even easier.. I mean shit Spider so smart he could just make a corrosive acid to just fuck up batman.

[@igoldenknight2169]

@@Luwaca Spider-Man is smart but Batman is on another level. Batman has strategic smarts and intelligence that beats others far more powerful and smarter than he is. That is literally Batman’s “power” and the only reason why he can got toe to toe with super humans. Batman has created super suits before. And Spider-Man wouldn’t be able to stop him in one. Like the Hellbat suit.

[@rlserik3751]

He not winning the second fight i dont think people understand how smart peter is . Thts one of main gadgets is his brains! Before he even got bit he was known to be literally one if the smartest people in the marvel universe. Got taught by the best fighter in the marvel universe. Spiderman wins everytime unless u bring some asspull suit out for batman ,

[@angrysmoli]

the issue with this thinking is that if batman gets a round two, peter would also have been studying the fight. if bruce gets prep time, so does spidey. and pete is one of the smartest people in marvel comics. for all bruces money, parker could easily devise a counter to anything bats could dish out just by rumaging through some garbage. the winner would always be spider-man.

[@capesword111]

I've seen this fight play out, although they stopped it quickly. Batman understood he was outclassed without any difficulty. Yeah, it would be impossible for Batman to beat him in any true fair fight, and I could even see Spider-Man winning a fight with Batman alone but prepared---simply because Spider Man doesn't have many weaknesses that Batman could exploit, and he's even able to win under conditions where his Spider Sense is prevented from working or weaponized against him. He's defeated more powerful guys like Venom and Carnage who don't set it off at all. It's completely fair to say Peter outclasses Bruce one-on-one with him losing a fight only under rare and extraordinary circumstances, perhaps if Batman is armed with one of the symbiotes (and I'm sure he would absolutely hate that idea), or in a case of plot armor.

[@_Spectrum_288]

Spiderman >>>>>>>>>> Bat-Fodder.

[@erichigh5712]

Your forgetting that Batman is definitely way more intelligent than Spiderman. Batman has realized on a few occasions when he's up against someone stronger then him and still found a way to win. Batman would use more brutal tactics then Spiderman. Batman doesn't hold back and Spiderman would. I could see Batman even getting into Peters head using it against him. Another point is Batman could beat any of the Spiderman villains but Spiderman couldn't beat all of the Batman villains. Example: Joker would drive Peter to insanity killing people he loves. Batman would win cuz Spiderman is just not as mentally strong.

[@capesword111]

I'm curious. Why argue with me when you can direct your opinions at Danco? I've said what I've said, but if he decides to agree with you, it'll affect the post itself.

[@Levi_Guerero]

@@capesword111 I think it's probably just for the sake of talking with someone who has an interesting opinion on the matter. I mostly agree with your opinion. I think Batman loses the first round but if there's a second, Spider-man is going to face an enemy like no other (batman with prep, crazy tech, and a new suit). Not trying to argue or anything. I just enjoy discussing this kind of thing. You are completely entitled to your opinion on this.

[@_Spectrum_288]

@@Levi_Guerero Naaaah. Anyone and everyone >>>>>>>>> Bat-Fodder.

[@tristanchriesmon1056]

Batman is absolutely my favorite DC character and I grew up with both of the they're part of my childhood but Spiderman is on a whole different level Spiderman is winning this one

[@Magnusmm88-wp4it]

How come Superman can defeat Spider-Man but Batman can defeat Superman?

[@CrusaderGoat]

@@Magnusmm88-wp4itHave you ever heard of something called… plot armor LOL

[@NormanOsbornMSF]

@@Magnusmm88-wp4itit’s called exploiting weaknesses. Kryptonite is one of the most exploitable weaknesses in comics and they had to make it that way specifically because superman insanely powerful. Spiderman doesn’t have a weakness that bad

[@albertpringle4918]

I don't know I love Marvel Comics But picking my so called Super Team 9 times outta 10 I'm picking Batman 1st

[@CrusaderGoat]

@@albertpringle4918 What does this even mean? spider-man has more feats and almost zero weaknesses.

[@joepalma8641]

Batman is one of my favorite characters but lets be honest he also has the most plot armor of all comic book characters. There is literally no way he is beating anyone outside of humans even with planning. The flash, superman, wonder woman etc can all move faster than Batman can see let alone think about how to defend against or predict what is coming next. Superman can crack the earth with his hits so there is no armor strong enough to defend against a blow from him or characters near his strength. Spider man isnt as powerful as them but still can move faster than Batman can see or think about responding to. Plus also has the strength to just annihilate batman. Batman is so popular because he is more relatable as a human than aliens or meta humans. His charaxter desingn is also amazing as well as his character. I love Batman but i know fully well he is outclassed by anyone that isn't a human.

[@GMMP1996]

Spider-man IQ 250. Bat-man IQ 192. Bat-man loses in every way. Give both of them prep time and Bat-man is dying regardless.

[@dh5379]

your deluded if you think batman will lose with prep time lil bro

[@Icecreamcarpet]

@@dh5379you’re deluded if you think he wins with prep time. If Batman loses without prep time he loses with it as well. Spider-Man will have prep too lmao

[@GMMP1996]

​​​​​@@dh5379 You're deluded if you think Bat-Man wins with prep time lil bro. Spider-Man is on par with Reed Richards in terms of intellect. Bat-Man loses with or without prep time. If you want to be fair you'd give both prep time and Bat-Man loses either way. He is no match on a straight up brawl because he loses on both strength, speed and skill. The way of the spider is just too much for Bat-Man to handle. Also, like I said, Spider-Man also wins on IQ. Spider-Man is just on another level. Realistically speaking, all Spider-Man needs is one good punch to rip Bat-Man's head off. Spidey can lifts tons of weight a punch with such force would go through Bat-Man's face and blow his brains out. Spider-Man can literally tank grenades to the face, is just out of question to think that Bat-Man could ever win. You're deluded lil bro. Also, just saying it's "you're" not "your" 😊.

[@eliasm9100]

Batman smites spidey with prep time, give him prep time and he solos the justice league , and the justice league is far stronger than anything spidey has encountered. No prep time, spidey wins without difficulty, with prep time ? Spidey gets his ass handed to him.

[@eddface316]

Batman fanboys are so deluded lmao why bother wasting your time with them?

[@mrb1gstufbroy]

Both have genius level intelligence, both are smart fighters and both use "Prep" when available (although "prep" won't be applicable in this fight). Spiderman has dodged multiple attacks and continued his attack while blind, using just his agility and his "spider sense". Spiderman's unique fighting style, "The Way Of The Spider," will be completely unfamiliar to Batman as he's never seen it before. For me, the best way to tell who would win in a fight is to look at their regular opponents. Which one routinely defeats the more powerful opponents? If Spiderman's "Rogue's Gallery" fought Batman's "Rogue's Gallery," which one would be the most likely to win? Take Batman and Spiderman out of the fight (so no personal feelings are involved). For example, The Joker vs. The Green Goblin, The Sandman vs. Clayface or Killer Croc vs. The Lizard, etc. Which Rogue's Gallery wins? That's who would be the most likely to win when the two heroes fight each other also.

[@thediaz07]

Thats a tough one actually....zero prep? Just a random encounter? 6 v6? Idk man...depends of which iterations..but generally id go with the sinister six.

[@thediaz07]

And which six for Batman? Bane def, Ras al Ghaul, Joker, Clay face, poison ivy, and slade Wilson maybe?

[@thediaz07]

For spidey you have Venom, Kraven the hunter, Green goblin or Hobb goblin, Mysterio, Sandman and Lizard(Dr.Connors).

[@thediaz07]

For Batmans RG you could have Bane, Ras Al Ghaul, Joker, poison Ivy and swap out either Clayface or Slade for Solomon Grundy...and Grundy is kinda OP in certain iterations.. which could turn the tides in the battle between villans.. Poison Ivy can control plants and since trees are everywhere she could do damage and protect...Bane and Grundy are the power houses .. joker and Ras are the tacticians... clay face is dangerous bc he can nake multiple weapons out of his forms...6/10 this group wins if its their above average forms.

[@thediaz07]

But if you're going with Batmans top villans in the above average verisons then you can swap characters with Spideys villans. So Venom, Green Goblin, Mysterio, Sandman, Lizard and Carnage. Sandman can do what Clayface does, Venom and Carnage are the powerhouses who will WRECK shit, Mysterio and GG are the tacticians. They don't have someone there for protection like Poison Ivy but Lizard is strong, fast and extremely durable... I'm sticking with Spidermans Rogue Gallery.

[@hulkboifanki]

batman got his back broke by bane. spidey got one punched by thanos and still got up like a champ.

[@tananatana4011]

Ah yes, let me bring up one character's absolute most HIGHEST of ending feats against an anti feat of one character where the entire point of the said story was to lose. You ARE aware that Spider-Man has lost to characters like Kraven, Kingpin etc. in the past, right? You also ARE aware that Batman has defeated characters like Doctor Fate, Spectre, Circe etc. right? Like if you want to play these games, we can, but let's not pretend like Spider-Man is Thanos level lmao

[@blessingsmpunga2136]

Wearing an iron suit 🙄

[@SupremeB_07]

@@blessingsmpunga2136bro that iron suit thing is dog 💩

[@billsfan4evah]

Bane ONLY attacked Batman after THREE WEEKS of Batman wearing himself down trying to apprehend all the Arkham inmates Bane freed. This is the most LAZY example of Batman losing a fight.

[@Ninjersey1]

@@tananatana4011he didn’t get his back broke and in every Spidey loss he was holding back lol a bloodlusted Spidey punches Bruce head completely off decapitation

[@JoeY-fu1sw]

Spider-Man also has genius level intelligence

[@imed-ha77]

He has no iq feats it's just exaggerations in numbers

[@renatoxico0075]

@@imed-ha77 he build a time machine with a microwave, a blender and a VCR

[@tananatana4011]

@@renatoxico0075 First of all Peter relied on Tony Stark's calculations for that, secondly Batman did that too, in minutes as the comic described it out of "crude materials". Batman also made an armor out of Element X which could rewrite fiction, made a device which could stop time till Flash was moving in slow motion, Batman found a way to get rid of sorcerer's powers like Dr. Fate or Circe, Batman invented a new element which worked on Wraith the same way kryptonite does on Superman etc.

[@CyreseParrish]

He was able to defuse a bomb using the pacing of a clock. Something Reed freaking Richards and Tony frigging Stark couldn't even figure out. That's only one of his IQ feats. ​@imad-777

[@InternetCrusader-rb7ls]

@@CyreseParrishBatman’s still smarter. He definitely has more cunning.

[@YophiGames]

Wolverine admitted that unless you can get passed the Spider Sense, Spider-Man is basically unbeatable in a 1v1 fight.

[@stephenridolfi6464]

Don't discount Peter's intelligence. He is actually a genius who developed his amazing web shooters, WHILE STILL IN HIGHSCHOOL. And when Spiderman comes across a villain who has some huge advantage over him, Spiderman can rework his web fluid to counter the advantage. There also have been many incidents where Spiderman has won a battle by outsmarting his opponent, and while I believe Batman can still outsmart Spiderman tactically, Batman would have to work for it. As much as I like Batman, Spiderman would come out victorious in a fight between the two.

[@NotoriousB.I.G.]

This shouldn't even be a thought

[@LiterallyAM]

Marvel meat riders love putting batman against op broken marvel characters. Ironman is super popular but no one would dare put him against superman. Double standards at its best.

[@jamichealruiz]

@@LiterallyAMAnd U DC Meat Rider’s Don’t GTFOH🤡

[@_Spectrum_288]

​@@LiterallyAMOnly meat-rider here is you 🤣🤣

[@LiterallyAM]

@@_Spectrum_288 seems like I hit a nerve there lmao

[@_Spectrum_288]

@@LiterallyAM And yet again another ignorant and immature comment stating bs like you know me when you don't in the slighest. Not surprised at all.

[@owenscott6159]

Danny phantom vs invincible

[@maxstrike3022]

Danny. Possess Mark, put him in a fatal situation, leave the body, win the fight.

[@KHowe-g8j]

Mark wins low diff

[@Smilelolhehe]

bro batman at this point has to be takin plot armor steroids to even do anything

[@peterlucci2242]

Plot Armor? Like, getting superpowers from a radioactive Spider, and “Spidey sense”, which allows you to detect anything right before it happens??? Yea, Batman is the one with plot armor though…😂

[@jacobcummings5825]

@@peterlucci2242Your argument doesn’t really work. Batman is canonically a non super powered human and people argue that he can beat literally anyone because he’s smart. Being already established as someone with superpowers isn’t plot armor lol. In fact, spiderman is given less plot armor than Batman on average. He died in into the spider verse, and gets beaten up and nearly killed on numerous occasions in the insomniac games

[@noobieeditzz]

One of the most accurate descriptions of Spider-Man is that he's stronger than everyone who's faster than him and faster than everyone who's stronger than him.

[@Lord_Numpty]

And smarter than both with very few exceptions.

[@captainbugsofficial]

Spider man counters pretty much everything Batman has.

[@a-man3179]

One thing about Spider-sense is that it doesn't guarantee he's gonna avoid the attack, it just tells him that it's coming.

[@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979]

Yes, you'd need to be faster than him in order to throw his Spider-Sense off... unfortunately, Batman isn't fast enough to do that here.

[@a-man3179]

@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979 Oh yeah, I'm not saying Batman wins (my bad 😅) I just see too many people hyping up Spider-sense like Batman's prep time.

[@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979]

@@a-man3179 Prep time is an excuse of an argument while the Spider-Sense in an itergral part of Peter's power sets. Yes, way faster people like Venom, Morbius and Quicksilver have managed to out-performed this sense...but Batman isn't one of those who can do that since he isn't faster than Peter. Like, Batman isn't faster than Daredevil and Matt was always two steps behind Peter in fights...and Peter still holds back.

[@channeled.]

​@@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979spider sense is an excuse of an argument as well

[@KcutcheyXD449]

The MCU pretty recently debunked that too. Even when his Spirit was pushed out of his body it was still able to give Doctor strange a hard time moving around on autopilot as if it was sentient even without peters soul within it.😅

[@Werewolf914]

Spider-Man and Batman are tied as my favorite Superheroes but I always say Spider-Man is one of those few that even with plot armor and prep time I don't see him beating Spidey in the majority of scenarios, I agree with you on the Spider Sense, thats probably his strongest ability, especially in No Way Home when Tom Hollands version could sense the personality change in Green Goblin with the Goblin taking over it's basically like a form of precognition, Bats is smart and a Master Tactition, but there's no weakness to prep for there's no radioactive Rocks, or tying him up, or the color yellow, or fear of fire, or anything of the sort to exploit, he's just out of his element

[@mamaaja9825]

so you say that spiderman sense is more faster than flash?stronger than wonderwoman?durable than superman?smarter than darkseid?because they can all destroy the avengers in one blink Batman has been defeated, if you say Batman can't beat Spiderman bro... Batman is facing a creature that can stop time and don't forget Batman has received many blows from multiversal opponents that even Spiderman never got. Maybe you said Batman is just an ordinary human, that's true because he's in DC, if he moved to Marvel he'd be a superhuman with SS rank.if you include plot armor you don't know anything about batman because he can fool the 6 dimensional beings who rule the entire multiverse

[@donbrunodelamancha1927]

Removing everything else, simply with his Spidy-Sense, there is simply NO way the Batman can successfully get on over on Spider-Man without Spider-Man anticipating whatever it is, countering it, and then throwing down a stellar attack Batman simply has no time to, nor way to block.

[@katon.9893]

Though I am not insane and definitely on the side of Spiderman winning, much MUCH lesser villains have bypassed spidey-sense not even intending to because they aren’t aware it exists yet. Batman, trained by the league of shadows and known for his mastery of stealth could 1000% get through spider sense. Though like I said he still gets turned to mush in the end.

[@cjbladesworth8049]

He can sneak Superman, he can sneak Peter.

[@ismaelvargas9098]

@@cjbladesworth8049Superman doesn’t have spider sense horrible logic

[@cjbladesworth8049]

@@ismaelvargas9098 depends on continuity. Main continuity Spider-Man's spider sense works on pheromones that Tony could recreate. In comparison, Superman can perceive things clearly even in an absolute vacuum.

[@Murph_gaming]

@@ismaelvargas9098 But his hearing far exceeds that of Peter's.

[@williamjohnsoniii338]

Whenever i have this conversation with people about Batman vs any other character, it boils down to one question: is Batman aware of them existing or not? Cause if he is, then he has a plan with like 15 backup plans in place to take them down. If he knows they exist, then i would say its a good fight and it comes down to factors like what gadgets they have, fatigue if they have just been in another fight, etc... but if its the first time Batman is meeting the other character and he has no knowledge of them, then yeah this would be no contest in favor of Spidey. But if Batman knows, then its a real fight.

[@johnbeyer4512]

Spidey would basically duck Batman's attacks all day while commenting how genuinely fascinated and impressed he is with Batman's gadgets.

[@ericfierro1693]

Way of the Spider was stupid. Peter is smart and experienced enough to come up with a solution and adapt to the situation. I know it’s only fiction, but I highly disagree at the idea of Shang Chi showing Spider-Man how to Spider. It should have been someone else like Miguel or Madam Web.

[@No0rdinaryHuman]

A lot of Kung Fu is based on animal styles. A master would watch an animal and try to mimic their moves in combat. Going to a Kung Fu master to have a style developed around an animal makes perfect sense.

[@ericfierro1693]

@@No0rdinaryHuman no it doesn’t. That doesn’t apply here. Peter Parker was fighting people who knew martial arts and were experienced fighters before he was introduced to kung fu. He beat them with his physical ability and intelligence. He is creative enough to come up with a solution. This kung fu plot is just a situation where they think he needs to learn “formal training” to be incompetent fighter when his character is always unorthodox and unpredictable. Shang chi’s whole personality is based on kung fu and Parker’s personality is based on him being Spider-Man and Peter Parker. There shouldn’t be a marriage between the two because Peter’s abilities make Shang Chi redundant.

[@Warm_Winter_Nights]

i never cared to compare the heroes. i would rather compare their rogues gallery. now THAT is something i would love to see

[@zane01235]

Batman wouldn't survive Manhattan imo. Imagine the Sinister 6 attacking Batman? R.I.P Bruce.

[@ASS-tb3mq]

@@zane01235he’d win

[@patrickturk8957]

@@zane01235 Why how?

[@rarescevei8268]

​@@zane01235Bruh he would have trouble against the vast majority of Spidey's rogues.

[@Chappell5252]

Dan, ok bud,, you know I love the videos. I smash that like even if I don't agree! It's been years and I've started several conversations about it. Please, finally, give us Larfleeze Vs Beta Ray Bill! At this point you could make a short out of it and I'd be happy! It's been years asking for the Horse Face Showdown!!!

[@smexehcougah3]

OMG!!! This is the first I've ever heard anyone suggest that but now I need it in my life!

[@Azeral7]

Another batman meat rider who ignores his plot armor

[@Azeral7]

Ok kid you can stop people pleasing to batman fans

[@Chappell5252]

@@smexehcougah3 Lol i've been asking for Fleeze Vs BrB for actual years at this point. Sigh.

[@Chappell5252]

@@Azeral7 who are you even replying to?

[@hbuis2]

Batman relies on the weakness of the Justice League, to get the better of them. E.g. Kryptonite, taking off green Lanterns ring, etc. Yet from what I can see apart from the people Spiderman loves, he has no real weakness to exploit. So good night Batman.

[@katon.9893]

Obviously Spiderman turns Batman to paste in this fight but I really wouldn’t bet on vengeance not being able to find a weakness. That’s his thing.

[@peoplebiter]

Spiderman is also very smart, he counters Batman on every level, so on a general one on one match Spiderman will win, but if Batman is aware of Spiderman ahead of time, that could change things to some degree.

[@zilla2760]

Spider-Man has a generally higher IQ, and is capable of making MUCH more impressive technology on his own, Tony Stark style.

[@JorgeFélixGallegosLópez-v8v]

Punisher vs Max Payne Naruto Uzumaki vs Godzilla Superman vs Vegeta Batman vs Trafalgar Law Joker (DC Comics) vs Freddy Krueger

[@harverc229]

Punisher but close Naruto Superman Idk Freddy Krueger

[@ibrahimmakadji6039]

@@harverc229 it depends on what version of Godzilla it but they love to use the monster verse version

[@luisangel9506]

Bro naruto is not beating godzilla, he killed superman

[@ibrahimmakadji6039]

@@luisangel9506 there talking about the monster verse version

[@the40kboyz11]

@@ibrahimmakadji6039 the monsterverse version killed superman

[@KreeptOut]

Man, I kinda forgot how badass Spidey was... 🕷️

[@patrickturk8957]

Who you got winning?

[@Bussman.]

Batman's cooked fr🔥

[@jamichealruiz]

Yeah Cooked💩😂😂

[@kiyanwest149]

my thing is Spiderman can lift 25 tons vs a guy that can't life half a ton .. Spiderman is younger faster more agile way stronger and just as smart if not smarter .. the only thing batman has on his side is prep time and money

[@jwkobe65]

so Batman is a super soldier now I seen it all people glorify Batman too much. He’s great. I love him, but he’s getting his ass kicked by 90% of these people.

[@tryzinpew]

The fact that Peter Parker is also richer than Tony Stark himself. Also he is an awesome inventor and one of the smartest heroes on the likes of Mr. Fantastic himself

[@chadbrad8100]

source? and when

[@rlserik3751]

@@chadbrad8100since recents comics . I think he got his own tech business if im not mistaken

[@edisonlaw934]

Spidey is just on another level and this has been proven time and time again. despite the class relationship.

[@wtfesyo2831]

We can debate this Batman solos

[@edisonlaw934]

@@wtfesyo2831 I don’t think it’s debatable unless you can show me otherwise

[@jamichealruiz]

@@wtfesyo2831Batman🥩Rider🤓🤦🏽‍♂️

[@SupremeB_07]

@@wtfesyo2831let’s debate bro, plot armour not included btw

[@wtfesyo2831]

@@SupremeB_07 if it’s a debate I can use whatever I want to prove my statement. Let’s debate what’s your cord ?

[@StareachValcin]

Batman only has the advantage in fighting skills, but Spider-Man's abilities gives him too much of an advantage over Batman, especially Spider-Man's spider sense.

[@Farreach]

if we are just talking about combat yes Spiderman would win in a random confrontation But Batman is a war winner even against gods ..he is the greatest strategist and tactician there is out of DC and Marvel both

[@johnchestnut5340]

Batman is not winning with punches.

[@CrusaderGoat]

@@johnchestnut5340He is talking about martial arts skill’s but that’s really about it 😂

[@windghost2]

@@CrusaderGoat Peter know Martial Arts himself.

[@CrusaderGoat]

@@windghost2 Yeah but not as much as Batman tho.

[@czarsv15]

I always preferred Batman

[@Mysteriebolt26]

Spider loses it takes one mistake and Batman will break his arm you can’t make a mistake when fighting batman

[@josephmarshall2295]

Spiderman can do all this yet can barely lift a fridge in insomniac spiderman 2 lol

[@patrickturk8957]

what?

[@Anupsidedownduck]

ye dont really know why he was portrayed/nerfed so hard in spiderman 2 lmao

[@lastyou]

that's more like a meme than reality, as it is shown Peter throwing that same fridge with just one hand one second later

[@TheDjbenton]

Lobo vs Juggernaut!

[@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979]

Juggernaut is taking the win.

[@raul88.88]

Juggy 💯

[@mr.nunleyiscool.2118]

@@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979yeah right bro, Lobo clowns on Superman. Juggernaut would get dogged on

[@richmanezihuo7214]

​@@mr.nunleyiscool.2118They don't know who is Lobo... Cause he just act sick and crazy all the time.

[@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979]

@@mr.nunleyiscool.2118 That's irellevant, bud. Juggernaut is immune to physical attacks...so Lobo has no real way to even harm him. He'd have to surpass him in raw power or use a mystical weapon...abd both aren't options here. Nice try tho.

[@UltraKryptonian]

Batman would already have a contingency plan for Spider-Man. Heck, Green Goblin made Spider-Man "sleeee-p" with some knock-out gas - Spidey-Sense didn't help him there! A concealed vial of Bat-Gas and Spider-Man would be confined to a Wayne-Tech holding cell in no time!

[@josemolina3858]

Spiderman wins by a long shot. Spider-Man can punch throught batmans armor and get killed. Batman can punch spiderman in the chest and just suffer and injury

[@raaspider]

I agree also remember Spiderman is a good guy he holds back his punches, he never wants to off an enemy

[@maskedmarvyl4774]

Batman was able to take on Superman while in his 50s. If he had to take on Spiderman, he'd carefully study his abilities, and come up with a way to neutralize all of them. Heck, even Mysterio and the Green Goblin at different times figured out how to neutralize Spiderman's webbing, cause him to lose his ability to stick to walls, and dull his spider sense using chemical agents.

[@angrysmoli]

youre all forgetting a few key elements. if bats gets prep-time, so does pete. and peter is one of the smartest people in marvel comics. anything bruce can think of to counter peter, peter can counter himself

[@radboyx6889]

Yeah, good breakdown. No way Batman would stand a chance even against Miles.

[@angrysmoli]

arguably miles would be an even tougher fight, especially with some of the newer powers hes gotten

[@irishsid13]

Spider-Man doesn't pull his punch and breaks his f****** neck with one punch, fights over..

[@mamaaja9825]

meanwhile superman and darkseid with a punch that can destroy a country:trust me kid,batman is unbreakable

[@samhithp2118]

⁠@@mamaaja9825as if Superman can't just one shot and rip Batman apart if he didn't hold back 😂😂😂 wake up kid

[@blazypoo1723]

"But Batman with prep time!" Still won't do anything. You wanna give Bats prep, give Spidey prep too. Peter Parker is a genius, widely regarded as one of the greatest minds in the Marvel universe just under Tony Stark and Reed Richards. Even Reed Richards has recognized Peter's smarts and has worked with him multiple times. Just like Bruce has many suits to counter specific foes, so does Spider-Man, and unfortunately a highly trained, heavily armed, peak physique human hunting Spider-Man is not new for him. The only thing Batman could do with his prep time is try to counter his Spider-Sense. It's been done before by Tony Stark, but if Peter locks in you just can't really counter it unless you are Venom. (Symbiote Batman would be scary though) He would also try to counter Spider-Man's web shooters. A little bit easier thing to do. Just disrupt the circuitry- WRONG! Spider-Man has built his shooters to withstand Electro, you pretty much have to destroy them. Which if Batman can land a blow on him, could happen. However, Peter is simply just too fast to let Batman do that.

[@Eno-master]

YOU ARE BRAVE. great video. i am going to keep coming back to the comments sections on this one until the end of time... Good point about one FINGER.

[@JdNtBrLrTi]

Lots of people in here with man-crush on Batman...

[@johnburton1205]

The only way Batman would get a good spot is by putting someone in harms way any Batman would never do it.....

[@katon.9893]

“Batman would never do it…” Batman HAS done it. Very simply the story goes: Superman is brainwashed and since everybody knows nothing will stop a rampaging krypton, Batman and Selina kinda just…throw Lois off a skyscraper. And hope for the best. Lol.

[@angrysmoli]

youre wrong on both counts. batman WOULD do it. he HAS done it. but the second he does, he isnt fighting Spider-man anymore. and Peter doesnt hold back when his family is in danger

[@micahmills5769]

One thing to remember is Spider-Man spider Sense isn't 100%. He's been hit with many of Green goblins gadgets among others as well as bullets before. It definitely gives him an advantage over Batman's stealth but it doesn't counter it completely

[@samjones4618]

Batman is the greatest detective and tactician of all time. He would easily trick Spiderman into launching himself into space or something. He would play that whiny teenager like a squeaky harp.

[@akiprox7]

Fun fact: if you tried to swing like spiderman you would rip your arm off very easily but the reason why spiderman can do it is because he does the MATH EVERY SWING.

[@angrysmoli]

plus his super durability and healing factor. you kinda need those to be super strong

[@josueibarra4443]

a lot of weaker enemies have whooped spidermans ass multiple times, almost on a daily, quick example is Kingpin killing peter in spider-verse and he's nowhere near as powerful as batman, not as agile, not as smart, not as good a fighter, just a slow strong dude with no neck. If you're gonna make a decision based on the superpowers, of course spiderman wins it, that's the whole point of Batman, he has no powers and still maneges to be more respected by Darkside than Superman. Spiderman is a tuesday for batman, you're telling me it's harder to beat spiderman than the flash or professor zoom? yeah right! at the end of the day it doesn't come down to powers and abilities, it comes down to who they are, batman is a dark traumatized dude who uses fear to defeat his enemies, spiderman is basically a nerd and a goody two shoes, that's the resaon Btaman has beaten Superman before and I really don't think spiderman cpuld take on superman so... It's still comic books so whatever the writer want's goes in the end

[@99gg-gg99]

Spider sense is the one thing Batman won’t be able to crack.

[@DS-wq8oq]

If we’re being real, any superpowered being can violate bats if they just jump him. Without doing his homework he’s not all that

[@chrisdelaney6639]

Batman gets completely curb stomped. It’s not thats it not even close, it’s that it’s just not fair. Batman doesn’t stand a snowballs chance in hell against Spidey.

[@KTRomero-lb2wp]

Batman will 100% go down in the history books as one of the most iconic and badass super heroes of all time. But at the end of the day he’s still a human being that is just a physical specimen of a man with elite martial arts fighting skills. Spider-Man is literally a god compared to Batman, Spider-Man would literally erase Batman’s existence in a instant like 5 seconds max

[@toondemaere3080]

Yeah eh a little short-sighted actually. Shure spiderman takes the edge on the physical front but what about Batman's gadget's, batmobile/batwing, data base..he can find a solution. Spiderman is just one guy. Batman has a whole team behind him to quickly respond when he needs stuff. He also doesn't shy away from uneasy alliances. I've seen manny oppinions on this topic but thinking that it will be a walk in the park for peter is nonsense. You seem to only take the physical into acount but let a skinny weak dude fight a bodybuilder with a gun and let's see who wins...

[@ChrisC-te1gp]

I would say Spider Sense trumps the Batman. Marvel vs DC nobody would know the other guy. Peter would dodge his first, web him up, then be long gone before he can get free.

[@Jason-pb3zk]

I love both of these characters and they've both performed crazy feats. But yeah, I think Spidey would win if he wasn't holding back.

[@SchazmenRassir]

I'm probably gonna get some hate for this. But I'll say it anyway: Death battle proved it years ago. And I agree with them and you.

[@shoken4421]

Came here after watching the miles Morales fight ,yeah bats ain't winning this

[@Daiymian]

Batman is great but sorry to all those heavy Bat fans. Batman would lose in so many ways... that's it's literally.. Comical.

[@mattygunn3852]

I have loved both characters since a boy in the 70's. If it was a total throw down, the Wall-Crawler would break the Bat in half.

[@mdeezqwe]

Not going to lie Spider-Man would easily take out Batman. All he has to do is web him up and punch him one good time he’s going to sleep. Spider-Man is too fast for Batman realistically he wouldn’t be able to compete. Gadgets would help but if Spider-Man is completely focused and in tune with his spider sense it’s a wrap for Batman and Spider-Man is also just as smart as Batman. He was smart enough to defeat the justice league but it’s different when you have somebody on your level and if Batman was real he would be no where near as smooth as he is in the comics at the end of the day he is only Human it’s times where Batman is fighting and he’s getting shot And he walks out unscaved because all the bullets where bouncing off the armor. In real life Batman would’ve got shot in the head he wouldn’t even be able to wear a mask. He would need an armor helmet

[@AgeOfRamp]

Agreeing with your overall assessment but cap and bat are no where in the same physical range. Bat is shown to max out at 850lb on a bench press while Caps warm ups start at 2200lb.

[@TruthTellert63]

I constantly see batmites saying B/M is "peak human' -- the whole 'peak human" classification started as a way of describing Captain America in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe (which DC then copied for their characters).

[@ggarzagarcia]

Batman won’t win a first fight, guaranteed, against Spider-Man. Batman needs a suit to counter the Spider Sense or a gadget to nullify it. Batman could also bring ethyl chloride, a *spider toxin,* to the fight to beat Peter, since the chemical hurts Peter’s spider DNA. Without an appropriate suit or gadgets, not even advanced stealth or fighting skills will help Bruce much against Peter.

[@RAINBOWNODES12323]

As you said spidy literally lifted buildings but ppl say “BaTmAn WiNs In SrEnGtH!!!”. Like what? This is what I don’t get about the evil deadpool comic where deadpool kills him with a. Gun? Spidy has spider sense and can dodge things faster then lightning

[@nicholasdalessandro1958]

Spider-man has hulk class strength... He can lift several tons and seems stronger the more under stress he gets. Like banner as hulk gets stronger the more angrier he gets... Probably due to the radiation he absorbed from the spider. Case close

[@jackkawf4449]

My dad and I have debated this before, these were my points too (I'm for Spiderman).

[@chrisadkison8969]

Spider-Man destroys him easy

[@hardmancanada]

I agree with you. The only way batman can beat Spiderman is if Batman uses his Hellbat-armor

[@Messilover140]

*Hell no, Hellbat is for a Superman or Darkseid type of threat, Spidey would get completely demolished by it, Batman doesn't need something that powerful to beat Spidey.*

[@Eno-master]

nah if batman gets hellbat armor spidey gets to be cosmic spider and bats would lose anyway.

[@BigBadWolfieWolfs]

Batman has beaten stronger opponents than Spider-Man. Batman wins, though not in EVERY scenario. He wouldn't throw away his chance by letting the superhuman Spider-Man get closer to him to get a hit in. If he can't physically outmatch Spider-Man, he'll outsmart Spider-Man, whether he's cleverly using gadgets, tactical ambushes, powersuits, maybe even using tricks his own rogues gallery has used against him like fear toxin. And all this as a Batman holding back. Not to discredit Peter's own intelligence or experience, but if Kraven can threaten Spider-man's life, Batman can and will beat him. It wouldn't always have to be a physical battle either.

[@laurenfazenbaker9777]

Spiderman has the higher IQ. Batman isn't outsmarting him either. Batman would be like a toddler against a Terminator in every scenario against Spiderman

[@blacjam17]

Can’t leave out Spideys Spider sense. That would have him disabling most, if not all of Batman’s tech. Spoderman is just in a different category. Of course he’s in a different category than 90% of comic characters. Not sure why some people compare him to Batman.

[@BenjaminSmith-pr8hb]

Don't forget Spiderman also has access to prep time, his intellect is scary. As well as his own tech.

[@MattDoesLife539]

I don't think theres anything in Batman's kit that counters the spider sense, even fear toxins from scarecrow won't do shit.

[@TheCrackinskullzx0]

Batmans true power is plot armor