Michael Jordan-LeBron James debate between Jalen Rose and Jay Williams turns wild | Get Up! | ESPN

Things get wild as Jalen Rose and Jay Williams debate if Michael Jordan or LeBron James would win in a one-on-one game.
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[@bustdetector1738]

MJ or Lebron? Paul Paul: Oh that’s easy ! Me!

[@JaskaranSingh-xh1ld]

bustdetector that’s true

[@user-eq7uv5zg7k]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Kiing_jer]

I was crying when he said he was better than wade😂😂😂

[@matp111-9]

And Lavar?

[@jonathanwilliams0824]

I would have been like "Paul, be serious and answer the dang question!!!"

[@bkpope]

I could've gone to a barbershop to hear this argument.

[@samuraibrother5778]

I heard the same exact conversation when I went to the barber shop. I swear all they was saying is: WHERE ARE THE RINGS, WHERE ARE THE RINGS

[@herogibson]

great point. why is this tv lol

[@samuraibrother5778]

@Frank Charles True dat

[@dhinton1]

Hands would have been laid. LMAO

[@winsleyocampo6383]

The barbershop was quiet until 1 guy came in with a 23 Jersey

[@angrut]

I grew up, watching both MJ and LeBron and I have to say MJ hit a higher peak of greatness than Lebron during his entire career!

[@kkaina2793]

True but Jordan also had the greatest decline also pulling himself from the league. He was the greater athlete but is not the greatest player. Just my view. Bron has every skill and can play every position. Jordan could dominate 1 thru 3 but would struggle at 4 and 5 even in his Era. Bron could play all 5 positions in any Era. That's the sign of greatness.

[@angrut]

@@kkaina2793 That's what they say. Jack of all trades, is a master of none.. playing 1 on 1 and winning is what I call the better player. Making an impact to the team and winning championships is what I call greatness. If Jordan did not retire, he would probably have a lot better stats than LeBron

[@syberdieforlove]

Higher peak but how about consistency and longevity? I personally think that there is nothing wrong with having either Lebron or MJ as your GOAT. No need to knock the other down because they are both really up there and it just depends what kinds of player or playstyle you prefer because both players play differently.

[@angrut]

@@syberdieforlove I'm just being honest, but people saying that LeBron is better. Just burns my heart

[@sanuloatheist6336]

@@angrut agree because players played the game to win, there's probably a reason why Tim Duncan is the greatest power forward over Karl Malone because Duncan won a couple championship despite of Karl having a better stats than him.

[@kingoftroll3511]

Jordan is very strong actually, not weight, but strong, with very wide shoulder and big hands. That actually helped him a lot in the air, he has almost flawless body controls on the air because of how strong he was. We saw Kobe guarding Lebron on the court 1:1 at age 34 with no problem. With MJ it’s even easier.

[@Oscar_Robertson]

Exactly Michael Jordan was just as strong as LeBron as a matter of fact I pick Michael Jordan to be better stronger than LeBron

[@mike2207]

Stop it. In his prime, the most MJ would weigh was 215. Lebron James weighed as much as 275 pounds during his prime. Jordan wasn't stronger than Lebron, and it's not even close.

[@dvantemckoy7174]

Bro y’all Jordan fans gotta stop it bro like fr 😂🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Oscar_Robertson]

@@mike2207 well let's not compare Michael Jordan to LeBron as far strength go we just compare LeBron to Wilt Chamberlain

[@weaslepopper]

Why do people keep saying there's never been a player like LeBron? Shawn Kemp was just as physically gifted,in his prime,as LeBron.

[@ChuckTateD117]

If you use Jay Williams logic then Shaq should’ve dominated Hakeem... oh that’s right, Hakeem made shaq look like an amateur.

[@x-man9473]

Shaq was an amateur. That's a bad way to make an argument

[@octaviodominguez7772]

X-man no the arguments holds water Al Jefferson was 290lbs at 6 11’ in 2007 and was seen as a faster and stronger player then Tim Duncan 230lbs 6 10’ ,does that mean in a one on one al Jefferson would of won ?hell no 😂😂,saying that the most athletic player would win is not a solid argument because basketball is more than just a physical sport is also a technical and strategic game.

[@gawdszn302]

Chuck Tate - Driven365 people forget this Shaq didn’t dominate until all the big men of the 90s were GONE

[@gawdszn302]

Junaid Desai that fat ass out of shape Shaq that even his coach Phil said he under performed because he gained too much weight?

[@x-man9473]

@@gawdszn302 false. Shaq was considered the most dominant player ever since the 90s. You're either having revisionist history or you have a bias against Shaq

[@capadzcabrera]

If Jalen guarded MJ, MJ would have dropped 160.

[@blackcobra1981]

Christian Joel Cabrera He did in the 90's

[@237doogie6]

You mean 162 lol

[@abmancarroll3872]

😂😂😂😂

[@johnboye211]

Christian Joel Cabrera hahahaha

[@SlokeX-cj6vj]

Jalen guarded MJ in multiple playoff series and Mike did not like seeing him, but Mike pissed on everyone

[@jermiesheard142]

MJ hands down, not gonna even waste my time explaining why. I saw Jordan live as a kid against the Clippers. Watched ever game in the 90’s. It ain’t close.

[@reubenbowen5096]

Bron literally backs him down 😂

[@wattwatkins3574]

bud you know MJ is a pure scorer who plays great defense.. You can always tell who knows ball and who doesn't.. LBJ has lost to a lot of his teammates one on one that aren't half the scorer or defender Mj is... Do just a little bit of research and you will see who he has lost to @@reubenbowen5096

[@xtucs]

mj cant defend a more better version of karl malone

[@wattwatkins3574]

you can tell you haven't watched enough basketball@@xtucs

[@xtucs]

@@wattwatkins3574 height is 6,9 and his weight is 260 and lebrons height is 6,9 and weight is 250 lol thats a similar

[@bmla88]

It’s not about having a killer instinct it’s about coming through for your team in big moments. Look at jordan at the end of game 6 in the 98 finals and lebron at the end of 2018 finals game 1 when he passed off to the 3rd or 4th best player on his team

[@ch3trey]

What you just explained is killer instinct. That's what jordan had and kobe had as well.

[@ketopapito9823]

Jay Williams has that weird smile where you can't tell if he's mad, happy or going to cry.

[@cbandz615]

🎯 😂😂😂

[@bjern757]

🤣🤣🤣 facts

[@carlwongtung3401]

Hahahahahaha maaaa nikkkkaa

[@PinoyGuitarTutorials]

yes I notice it too because he is desperate defending his queen. he is going to cry =))

[@joeybing3774]

😂😂😂

[@thenacho2]

This is comparing MJs skills vs lebrons weight and height😂😂🤦🏽‍♂️

[@inboundcow8323]

exactly bruh

[@tonymontana1410]

Whats Jay's forgetting is the fundamentals of a 1 on 1 , thats man is crazy. Mj would honestly dominate against bron prime vs prime; there's is nothing unavailable in mjs personal scoring arsenal that lebron can be consistent of stoping.

[@inboundcow8323]

@@tonymontana1410 mj can't guard born bcuz he he'd get outmuscled and he shorter, lebron also has an equal 3pt shot thats we saying lebrons size v mj skin

[@tonymontana1410]

@@inboundcow8323 first of all, learn how to spell. 2n of all Mj is the best 1 on 1 player ever , when playing 5 on 5 is a completely different dynamic. Mjs scoring arsenal far surpasses bron in any fashion of the game, and he would honesty lock up bron . Itz not even a debate who s the better on ball defender( MJ ofcourrse). The only chance bron has ,its his post up game but the master of the post fade away is MJ. So does lebron really have a chance to beat MJ in his own game ,least than likely. Jay Williams is drunk and clearly a dummy. The 3 would not be effective in this 1 on 1 match up . Mj is faster and jumps higher than lebron so the 2 inch height difference wont matter. The only thing bron got going for him its his size, so the only thing that would make sense is his post up game. Other than that there's nothing MJ couldnt guard that lebron will throw at him. Like I said when yur this great, your 1 on 1 fundamentals are way more important than just sheer size brother.

[@inboundcow8323]

Tony Montana yo relax, LeBron post fade is still pretty nice ( just look up game 2 v Toronto last year LeBron can just body him, post up, 3 three back dribbles and get mj off balance . Mj only jumps 2-3 inches higher so that doesn’t matter and u acting like LeBron has no skill in the one on one, when LeBron drives to the hoop it’s almost impossible to stop 1 on 1, you need help d to stop that, he has the most deadly driveI’ve every seen, if.u cut him off he just spins and finishes on the opposite sidemuscles through the contact, LeBron is also much stronger and is fast as well, lastly don’t tell me i need learn to spell when you need to do it too 😂

[@michaelcrowder3102]

Love this. Jalen it's that guy. I love Jayson too and the fact that he's got a smile on his face the whole time. He knows and everyone in the studio knows Jalen is right

[@donnie9001]

for Jay to even bring up this, shows he has no idea what he's even talking about.

[@wattwatkins3574]

you have to have someone to debate against.. jay has a lot of bad takes.. Most likely why he had the job.. Just like Perk and Nick Wright.. You have to have those guys that have learning disabilities and go against the grain to have a show..

[@dominiquejones3805]

Jay don't even believe it himself, it's just a argument 4 the show

[@rabbijoe316]

The closest (modern day) defensive comparison to MJ would be Spurs Kawhi, who Lebron hated playing against. They even have similar hand sizes. But MJ's offensive bag was more developed earlier on than Kawhi's. And while he was physically smaller than Lebron, he was just as athletic. And his game is better suited for 1-on-1.

[@dominiquejones3805]

That part.We seen Kobe lock lbj down & make him pass.Lbj would b calling 4 a switch n a 1 on 1 game

[@stevensparkes3233]

Rose: Mj is the greatest player ever both defensively and offensively here's the stats even without context, Williams: yeah but lebrons taller

[@durriellhumphrey]

🤣😂😂🤣😂😂 Facts

[@aideethree3]

Hahahaa!!!

[@Sklouchechi]

My guy, Lebron's the better player offensively lmao. He's better at clutch, higher 3pt shooting, Higher fg perc, passing, blocking and rebounding. The man defends the paint as well, MJ might be better defending the perimeter but offensively, MJ doesn't run the offense. He just scores on the drive and midrange. If you add in points responsible for on the stat line, Lebron's ahead a lot more.

[@Mobucksssss]

@@Sklouchechi ooghhh offensively ??? That’s cap Lebron just has better IQ

[@cenvalleybasketball]

@@Mobucksssss who's to say he even has better IQ? How do we as fans judge that? There's players that say MJs IQ was incredibly high too smh. To make the game look easy or make everyone else look like trash means u know the ins and outs of the game pretty well

[@thebizkore9315]

Kobe guarded Lebron why couldn’t MJ.

[@Stromoney]

TheBizKore in Brons prime Kobe couldn’t guard him

[@natea6217]

Young Astro that’s was an old Kobe young Kobe would lockdown lebron

[@johnggg7770]

Young Astro except in 2013 Kobe clamped lebron in the asg and blocked him twice. 34 year old Kobe vs prime lebron 🤷‍♂️

[@christine4613]

If MJ played in the NBA now.. LeBron’s name wouldn’t even come up.

[@tyranburnside5364]

chrys cap

[@borisfrlic]

Did this man say Lebron is quicker than MJ? LeNofootwork? LeNobag? LeClumsy? Cmon now

[@Rulas29]

Next to the 1.4 clip this is the best ESPN video ever !! 1 on 1 ?????

[@lukegentry5131]

Jay Williams: “Lemme ask you something has Michael Jordan ever had to guard someone like lebron james?” Me: “has lebron had to guard anyone like MJ?”

[@what9331]

Luke Gentry touchè! I'd have said the exact same thing. Then I'd answer by saying "Kobe! LeBron vs Kobe would be difficult to determine who wins. With that being said, MJ is a whole better version of Kobe and therefore it would be improbable for LeBron to win"

[@cayleweldon5021]

Luke Gentry exactly!!! James wouldn’t have a chance

[@Nubian_Roots]

Kobe

[@jett1526]

Kobe, KD

[@dreyeezy8671]

Jett Frank nah not KD, he aint got that big boi killer instinct like Kobe or Jordan did

[@FRM101]

First 25 seconds is Jalen Rose demonstrating how a sane man reacts to insanity.

[@thejeneralj.u.-iceforever6706]

Jalen Rose: 🗣️"And how did that end up"? The laugh @3:04. 😂

[@DrunkCrazyMonkey]

I think because of what’s her know saying “oh I know” which did made it funnier then it should. Lol

[@junijuni8529]

Even the crew in the background can't believe this BS 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@snpagy]

You have to laugh hysterically at anyone that tries to say lebron could beat MJ one on one.

[@uchihamadara2329]

I get your nostalgia, but no.

[@pranav8830]

Mj can never lose in a 1v1

[@jj-lw3zi]

The thing is we'll never know cauz they played in a different era

[@stefanogasasira9406]

jj and that really does sum up this whole argument, it’s a bunch of “what if’s” but it’s still a good argument

[@gni389]

@@jj-lw3zi agreed

[@wizard380]

jordan was known for being a monster in 1 on 1. he was humiliating players when he was 40 years old in 1 on 1

[@Rambotime]

This leads to whom has the most efficient and effective go-to move.

[@dyikems1665]

Agreed Jay!

[@SILMANTV]

If Kobe could guard Lebron I seriously don’t see why Jordan couldn’t

[@miguelreyes2400]

I agree Kobe can lock him up and has done it before. This coming form a Lebron fan

[@ryanralph7494]

Right! MJ was 3x the defender Kobe was lol. Not even knocking Kobe.

[@SILMANTV]

Dakota Kidd not all of those points etc were on Kobe he got sum steals and blocks on Lebron..

[@user-yc6ju3ue3g]

@@miguelreyes2400 you not fan

[@TheSands83]

Preach buddy!!

[@jacobdestern4288]

There’s a reason the ENTIRE studio burst out in laughter after Jay Williams said Lebron would dominate MJ. Smh

[@Zlimeboyjared]

He would

[@Zlimeboyjared]

Lebron would destroy mj

[@dontphuckwithme85]

@@Zlimeboyjared Are you high? Jordan in his prime would destroy Queen James

[@Zlimeboyjared]

@@dontphuckwithme85 you are high lebron to strong and athletic

[@dontphuckwithme85]

@@Zlimeboyjared Lmao Jordan played against players bigger badder and stronger son

[@plebeiangaming5625]

"Defends like a guard" Argument lost

[@dsb5417]

the thumbnail🤣

[@DJGENOTYPE]

Not to mention, most of Jordan’s points came in the paint, where they had real Power Forwards, and Centers lurking.

[@mpound97]

Jordan didn't care those 7 footers were "lurking" lol. They were just poster material for him.

[@ndn2589]

Back when the NBA was the roughest an the toughest

[@patriotskingnation8084]

@@ndn2589 Mj got lucky didn’t have to deal 3 point shooters

[@twanunit7662]

Miss them days....

[@youngcactusjack]

@@patriotskingnation8084 man I bet every big man too would be scared asf if they had to deal with gritty and skillful bigs like Shawn kemp even. They would go run and hide in the shadows

[@Jraskal.]

the statement that Lebron is faster makes no sense, yes lebron is fast but cmon man MJ had elite agility and quickness. Have you seen his film??

[@RobertMichael]

Yeah I had the same thought..bigger, stronger, but faster??

[@ericklajara8641]

But I think they both ran 4.6 in a 40 yard dash. So Lebron ain't faster. He is probably equal to MJ. MJ definitely quicker.

[@BenjaminFranklinFF1706]

@@ericklajara8641 Jordan ran a 4.38 and had a 46 inch vertical

[@nbastalgiacritic1751]

@Henryneither

[@drlee2]

That's OK. LeBron would just chase Jordan down and block his shot.

[@jonnyfoster8414]

If we're going with Williams logic then I'm taking Wilt Chamberlain 🤣

[@ClayCruise]

This pops up every year for me 😂

[@Phil_Deeznutz714]

Jalen on the floor praying like “LORD...please help this man” 🙏🏼

[@samsmacker9746]

Jordan is good defensively but he never had to guard every position on the floor. Jordan never guarded the best player Pippen did

[@raheemcueRCG]

@@samsmacker9746 magic johnson?? Gary payton?? That's 2 of the greatest already.

[@famousxji1852]

@@raheemcueRCG don’t argue with that fool

[@jamestonga6281]

Amen 🙏

[@samsmacker9746]

@@raheemcueRCG you named 2 players I said Pippen guarded every position from 1-5 you named Payton and Magic. Last time I checked. Jordan couldn’t guard Malone, Barkley, Rodman,Worthy,

[@jonas10x]

"Has Micheal Jordan ever played against a guy like Lebron James?" Well he played Hakeem, Shaq, Ewing, Isiah, Magic and Bird.

[@dontphuckwithme85]

Don't forget Karl Malone, John Stockton,Muggsey Bogues

[@ABdaKid]

And yet none of them are like lebron

[@brent2050]

AB AB And yet LeBron has never went against anyone remotely close to mj. But mj has went up against people comparable to LeBron

[@dontphuckwithme85]

You're right they're better than Lebron

[@dontphuckwithme85]

Queen James wouldn't last half a season in the 90's lol

[@gpapa31]

Forget the stats, the trophies (individual, team) eye test, dominance etc; the statement @3:53 IMHO sums up the dynamic and mentality differences of both of those players and shuts the argument on the topic once and for all. Next.

[@srdjankovic]

Bro casually said Lebroom is quicker than MJ. What a ridiculously false thing to say.

[@SemperReformanda1536]

Please MJ led the league in scoring back when they actually played defense

[@blood9903]

kawhi is unarguably one of the best defenders all time. there are a lot of good defenders. stop looking at the game through rose tinted glasses.

[@thsu8]

@@blood9903 Pat Bev is the best defender in NBA history pound for pound

[@blood9903]

possibly

[@highcaliberyt3898]

None of jalen roses points referred to the question. Jordan fanboys do this all the time. What does hos career accomplishments have to do with 1 on 1? The game is completely different in a 5v5 vs 1v1 stance

[@blood9903]

fax

[@veridian4433]

That thumbnail is legendary

[@ThePbagj]

Veridian ikr also I c u a lot

[@mattfisher3825]

You can't see who he is debating against so I thought it was MJ

[@Daiin0]

I clicked for that thumbnail

[@JohnDoe-101]

Jay had a really bad motorcycle crash a few years ago & it did more damage than he would admit. He is 1,000% wrong about LeBron Beating MJ.

[@tiyalewhitehurst338]

Bigger/faster/stronger does always equate to better remember ask Rocky and Muhammed Ali about that

[@mjgoat5326]

5:43 Jalen rose: “defensive? Noooooooo. Defensive? Nooooooooooo” had me dying 🤣🤣🤣

[@kobadobe]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@cassianandor4103]

And Jalen is right, Lebron has never been elite defensively, at least not as elite as MJ.

[@levithecreation424]

He ain’t wrong either 😂😂😂

[@robertmusil1107]

I mean, dude on the right is legit a clown. His arguments are "LeBron is bigger and heavier" LOL. Are we talking about wrestling or playing Basketball?

[@matt-pd1do]

@@cassianandor4103 heat lebron was elite defensively, stop this bs lmfao

[@meestaShin]

Jay Williams, you're making me speak like Stephen A. Smith and I NEVER speak like that.

[@malikdetdude1635]

Bitcchhhhhhh😂😂 on mama nem I'm talking and hollering at my phone like they hear me

[@jordancaldwell2208]

Lol Jay said into a mic that Bron was QUICKER than Mike. Smh.

[@benjaminj4l703]

Why Scary Terry have to catch a stray😭😭😭

[@danielpagan2848]

I still remember 5'10 JJ Barea giving it to Lebron in the post in the 2011 finals lol

[@moneymoney3235]

Daniel Pagan so all the little white people mike got scored on back in the day we gonna forget that?

[@moneymoney3235]

Chris well let’s see Jordan’s 1-9 in the playoffs without pippen so Danny ainge and all the others who beat Jordan

[@mr.harambe2658]

@@moneymoney3235 you realize one man alone can't be a team. He led his team who were all shitty players to the playoffs in the east

[@TheresNothingBetter]

Yonix Yoni lebron did the same thing with the cavs the first time

[@mr.harambe2658]

@@TheresNothingBetter did I say he didn't Lebron is in everyone's top 3 must just not better than MJ

[@DANNYxBOY9089]

You're bugging if you think Lebron is quicker than MJ.

[@ccf3195]

Bron beats Jordan in a 1v1 any day

[@observer6681]

@@ccf3195 wartch bron vs kobe highlights 1 on 1, then think...

[@carlton645]

Uhhh he is faster tho?

[@caircn5747]

@@observer6681 but Kobe is quicker than LeBron you idiot

[@observer6681]

@@caircn5747 ;D? I'm sayin dat kobe was better the bron 1 on 1, so mj would also be better then bron. Im in Kobe, MJ team. No disrespect to Bron. Peace !

[@coreydavis3810]

This clip is history boys !

[@pjpj2639]

Quickness over bulk…it’s basketball

[@Kodanz456]

Jalen kneeling and praying should be the thumbnail

[@zelball91]

Saw a short of this today and it brought me back here for the full clip 😂 Jalens face when he reiterates 1 on 1 killed me 🤣🤣🤣

[@SergeobeeLovedoneOLIC]

Same here

[@AdderTude]

Jalen's played against MJ. He knows from experience that MJ is undoubtedly better than LeBron.

[@chaviusrandall216]

😂😂😂😂😂 I've watched that part 50 times in a row.

[@jasondye9565]

This dude has know idea about basketball, and he played it😂😂😂😂

[@homohabilis9413]

Lebron got clamped by JJ Barea lol

[@jsnagra1able]

What Lebron did in the 2016 finals was incredible. He carried that Cavs team to the title over a more talented Warriors team. I don’t know if any other player could have done that.

[@wattwatkins3574]

And the first time he faced the SPURS for the Chip he had almost the same amount of turnovers as assist and the Spurs defense was to let LBj shoot... Then the MAvs series with LBJ having a super team VS a one allstar team... But for some reason you think the GOAT couldn't beat the Warriors with that loaded CAvs team is crazy to me...

[@BillyMac812]

How old are you? Or more specifically did you watch both of Jordan’s 3 peats live?

[@bigdaddystovepipe]

Kyrie Irving hit some of the biggest shots in that series!!!

[@Karusika]

Even when Jordan’s feet were bleeding with his original shoes on he still dropped a 30+ game

[@shoeicidesiouxsneakertalk1441]

They dnt knw bout that size 13.5 and size 13 lmfao Jordan’s d goat

[@nickyd.4695]

How about the 40+ game with the flu!!!!

[@alexe2375]

LeBron hit a game winning 3 over one of the best point guards of all time while he was fresh off an injury and practically blind. LeBron is the goat and he would OWN jordan in a 1v1. no questions asked.

[@angelbeats8996]

@@alexe2375 I don't think LeBron would win it will be close but here why LeBron would lose to MJ if they played 1on 1 LeBron is soft he cries when other players bump him and likes to flop while MJ had to play against a really physical team of the bad boy Pistons who made the Jordan rule and where out to hurt him I don't see LeBron James being able to handle that all LeBron James has going for him against MJ is that he is bigger than him.

[@nabii5951]

You can hear the crew cracking up in the background, and that makes the entire segment.

[@toybirdy]

This guy saying James can beat Jordan cause of his weight and being tall? Michael went up against taller and heavier players like Shaq.

[@kiyoshi3300]

Aging Kobe Bryant Blocked Prime LeBron James twice in a row.. and who is kobe? The imitation of Jordan.

[@Tanfo77]

Lebron had a very hard time guarding Kobe and Kobe gave Lebron a very hard time defensively and Kobe is the closest ever to MJ.

[@kirkchin1174]

Lebron use to cook Kobe lol

[@aaronplayz2376]

@@kirkchin1174 ong

[@brickgoon]

@@kirkchin1174 🧢

[@brickgoon]

@@aaronplayz2376 on you lol

[@aaronplayz2376]

@@brickgoon U a casual homie, been watching both of them for 3 decades Bron has given Kobe the works plenty times

[@mattr2055]

Lebron scored 8 points vs JJ barea in the finals 😂😂

[@TemoPlaysOfficial]

He was driving all the time and Dallas had two of the best shot blockers in the league at that time

[@bookofdakota8829]

TemoPlays he was struggling to post up jj barea and shoots 33% on steph curry career via post up😂

[@aszamo5352]

@@TemoPlaysOfficial Reasons.

[@zilverman7820]

@@TemoPlaysOfficial Shut up. Too many excuses.

[@pantelo18]

@@TemoPlaysOfficial jordan also played against great deffenders and still put up 30+

[@JAXTWIN]

Michelle Beadle’s reaction was priceless.

[@user-st4kp9or6z]

Jay Williams is out of his mind 😂😂😂😂

[@osmanshah5046]

MJ played beat a whole team that was trying to injure him. Lebron was called Leflop at one point in his career.

[@tdavenport3387]

Lol your so right. I never knew James to stop great players from Getting a ring.

[@LFKGooner]

For the entirety of his career MJ was double teamed many times triple teamed. The Detroit Bad Boys designed a strategy to stop him (The Jordan Rules) at all costs whether to end his career through injury so be it.

[@heckk9]

@@LFKGooner the Jordan rules were a fluke😭 obviously they didn’t work for 1. 2 that’s literally the physical defense that was played anyways back then

[@LFKGooner]

@@heckk9 Thanks bro. Noted!

[@fwcell]

@@tdavenport3387 1 - KD (was stopping him in the finals) 2 - Stephen Curry (2016 NBA Finals when he came back 3-1) 3 - Carmelo Anthony 4 - Paul George 5 - James Harden 6 - Russell Westbrook 7 - David West 8 - Al Horford. Should i keep going

[@BitsBlitzPH]

The fact that they are "comparing" lebron to mike says it all. Jordan is the meter.

[@jordansabourin4978]

This dude really just tried comparing lebron and mjs competition 💀 😂

[@thefaceofunemployment1373]

@@jordansabourin4978 dude forget records of the NBA at the time for a second and just see who MJ played in his finals (only went six times which isn’t that much). He played old Magic and Kareem, a random guy named Clyde, Charles Barkley (who was in prime tbf), old Kemp and baby Payton, and the chokers that are the Jazz. Lebron has faced the warriors who are the best team in nba history, a spurs dynasty team, and an experienced Mavs team. How many HOFers I hear? MJ faced 7 HOFers while Lebron faced 10 HOFers. Face the facts.

[@YouKnowWeMob]

He switched so fast when he started naming the player mike played against and said no im talking one on one 😂 wasent he the one asking if mike ever played against as good as lebron haha

[@wattwatkins3574]

the question should have been turned around has LBJ ever faced MJ type player.. We all seen what Jason Terry and Berra did to LBJ on both sides of the ball... LBJ needs a team to be the most effective.. he isn't a one on one player.. LBj is documented losing to his teammates one on one that aren't half the player MJ was

[@weirdojay6004]

Even the camera and off screen crew reacted like “You’re alone on that island Jay”, and they almost never react. They know.

[@dhinton1]

Exactly.

[@AprilHarmony9]

Right🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@tr1p1ea]

"I'm also going to frame the debate with rules that suit my personal preference." Classic.

[@vincentjoe7541]

Jalen forget to say "BLASPHEMOUS" to Jay Williams

[@ronstjohn2610]

You can save better ones better where's whatever it doesn't matter they're just two different type of players

[@lilibethmunoz3740]

MJ has a very high basketball IQ and superb athleticism. So it means he can beat anybody. Even LeBron! It's not the height but the performance on court says it all. Michael Jordan is Michael Jordan! 💪💪

[@sheffrudytke1086]

Remember when mj switched teams to win the NBA championship. Neither do I

[@Gibi92]

Remember Lebron carrying an average Cavs team to a championship? I do, remember Jordan having the best team in the league for 6 years....I do

[@dylanfoliga2881]

Beardedpower I still don’t understand why people don’t know this. Lebron played with the cavs and carried them for so long, he didn’t get much help and his organisation was trash unlike the bulls in the 90s who arguably had the greatest organisation of all time surrounding MJ with great players. If Lebron didn’t leave, people would be saying he’s just wasting his career in Cleveland. If your not getting taken care of, you’ve got to take care of yourself!

[@jaimegutierrez1528]

Beardedpower remember when kyrie had 41 points cause I do

[@Gibi92]

@@jaimegutierrez1528 Cant compare Kyrie to Rodman or Pippen hes not even in the same league

[@Gibi92]

@@jaimegutierrez1528 oooooh 41 points by the way. Lebron carried Kyrie

[@Mark8.34]

Physically?? Mj is More skilled, Kobe is the same size and he guards bron how is mj any different

[@giuseppefilippone8215]

@@jude9889 no he didn‘t jus....

[@XavierSchwartzTheOriginal]

@@giuseppefilippone8215 hehehe

[@XavierSchwartzTheOriginal]

"Young cavs to early heat lebron vs young-primed kobe" was a better 1 on 1 battle than "Late heat to cavs again lebron vs recovering but wise kobe". And for some references, look up a video called "lebron owns kobe", itll tell you the stats between the two in the beginning and then show you the highlights. You know before I ever knew that video existed I had no idea lebron and kobe were that high in 'rivalry' or jus high stakes.

[@XavierSchwartzTheOriginal]

@Gina Thompson "still not [insert the holy idol everyone looks up to and anyone who tries to oppose said idol will never get my praise here]"

[@leomarcelino3941]

Oh I know 😂😂

[@DamnDuff]

9 time all defense in a league with less space and you can hand check. Might as well be Monopoly money 😂

[@stephenblack8698]

This guys argument is "LeBron weighs more so he'd win" LMAO WTF this is ridiculous.

[@courylanders8647]

LeBron weighting more is a bad argument, but jalan throwing up stats isn't good neither.One on One b-ball is different. They're alot of great one on one ballers on the playground who could take mj and LeBron who never made the pros.

[@aChristian4RonPaul]

Weight makes a big difference in basketball. If you don't weigh a lot, on offense your movement can be altered more easily. On defense, it's harder to alter the offensive player's movement. For rebounding, same situation.

[@courylanders8647]

@@aChristian4RonPaul Well, Kevin Durant, Kareem, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, and George Gervin were thin and great scores.Dennis Rodman was a great rebonder and skinny. Strength, toughness, and durability can make up for lack of size.

[@aChristian4RonPaul]

@@courylanders8647 you can be thin and still weight a lot when you're tall. Duncan weighed about the same as Lebron. Garnett did too. Durant is close to Lebron. Furthermore, you can be the lightest person on the court and still be the best scorer, even the best rebounder, even the best defender. Agreed that strength, toughness, and durability can make up for lack of size. My only point was that weight does make a big difference in basketball. All other attributes equal (ex: height, speed, metal toughness, etc), someone with more weight is at an advantage than the person with less weight.

[@VictorSantos-pb7md]

Have you seen Carmelo and Kobe Byrant battle 1v1?? Kobe got dominated in the paint, Carmelo's post up isn't even his best offense but Kobe couldn't do anything to stop him even with great defense, just too small. Imagine what Lebron would do with Jordan just physically. I'm not saying it will be one-sided, MJ will probably break down LBJ mentally in 5v5 but 1v1 where LBJ will have the confidence with just physicality alone!!!

[@antoniorubioaldehuela1168]

MJ is way better…. i don know why people sill discuss this mate

[@minnievsx3977]

He was beaten 1v1 against a short fat buisnessman

[@Jesustalkspod]

Bro lebron would beat him because of size

[@antoniorubioaldehuela1168]

realityking tv mj beat him even in stats... you can have your opinion, people who really know about basket have the same of mine. Listen to Pippen, for example. Mj didn’t lose a final, for me it’s enough just that

[@minnievsx3977]

@@antoniorubioaldehuela1168 it doesnt take 1 person to win the finals lol

[@aidanwallingford9564]

MetroX Division But did he lose when it mattered the most?

[@dnakatomiuk]

0:16 Shaq is crushing his papers somewhere at that moment

[@Somethingwittyxs4ku]

Why does Jay keep saying that LBJ is faster than MJ? No way, no how.

[@Marco-dl9gz]

Jay Williams doesn't even believe his own argument

[@ricflare7969]

Its facts lebron will win

[@ricflare7969]

Explain how I'm dumb I've never said lebron was better than Jordan I'm saying 1 on 1 not 5 on 5 it's a difference dumb ass

[@dumisatonyjohnson8145]

Marco Jay went to Duke Mike was a Tar Heel

[@ericsavage4299]

I think he did believe it until Jalen told he was 9 defensive player of the year

[@ricflare7969]

See yall caught up in that when clearly scottie was the better defender Michael is the goat but he wasn't guarding guards like today's era..and yall know it

[@ant4613]

5:37 ... "Defensive? Noooooo" lmao Jalen I wonder if Jay still thinks that after this season XD

[@caps8723]

Honey Ant 🤣😂🤣😂

[@williamramirez3962]

Man if you compare old era and todays era new era averages crazy stats either defensive or scoring side that's why I think Bron's era is tougher than old era aside from that a just a little bit contact will be called as a foul immediately in today's time.

[@kushyscoopcreamery5364]

Love these dudes

[@michaelatkins1600]

LeBron couldn't handle Jason Terry how he gonna get MJ lol

[@mosesmessiah9098]

@Power Line facts people have bad days weeks and sometimes even months

[@mosesmessiah9098]

When someone has a good month or a couple of good days people want to disregard it but when it's bad people act like that whole situation makes them.

[@deciphertwentythree7726]

@@mosesmessiah9098 Put some context into it , it was an NBA finals LeBron choked and lost GOAT argument at that point. Even if they won wade would be MVP.

[@Eliras24]

@Power Line Bron lost his one on one vs Kawhi, never had to face Kobe in his prime, and when they did, was never a good thing for Bron, even with Kobe trying to kinda mentor him. And we seeing it more now: LeBron is RUNNING from one on ones. And MJ was better than both Kawhi and Kobe but being similar to them: LeBron would've never accepted a duel vs MJ like he has never done it vs Kobe or he is avoiding Kawhi now, after he saw how he could ruin his game while he was in his prime vs Kawhi's being young. Bron is not build for those one on one things, he avoided that exposure because he is such a freak of nature and a unique type of player, but a final game vs Kobe or this Prime Kawhi would necessitate him to change his game earlier, as he is doing now, a more passing and Magic style of play. Asking LeBron to win a 1 on 1 vs a such gifter guard as MJ is like to ask Shaq to beat Curry on 3s. I mean ok, but what's the point

[@tjtaylor3446]

Michael Atkins YOUR ON DOPE AND DOG 🐶 FOOD!!!! 😳😳

[@Babstock08]

Has Lebron ever played against a player like MJ?

[@OreoMo]

kobe, kd

[@Mahomeboy]

Has mj ? No

[@MustafaHashmi-zf7yw]

No but he played a team that lebron nvr played against

[@dylanrademacher4350]

Lebron played way better competition not even an argument with that

[@ype1014]

Dylan Rademacher cake walk

[@Just_another_noob]

I'm here for the "one on one" ☝️☝️

[@neriaksoul]

T Mac, Kobe and Penny in their prime could beat prime MJ in a one on one. But MJ in a Team.. hard to beat.

[@TorahScholar]

Sheer will and competitiveness of MJ is unmatched. There’s no way he’d lose. When Lebron reaches MJ teaches

[@jaylonntullis6810]

Same way he lost in '95 against the Magic.

[@wennyhaipa7399]

LeBron won't reach. He's a disciplined defender

[@bigdaddystovepipe3314]

​@@jaylonntullis6810 yea and he came back with a vengeance, he didn't run to another team!

[@Oscar_Robertson]

But LeBron is a smart player he wouldn't reach LOL

[@garygallant5390]

Lebron was not a fierce competitor. MJ is the Goat in every aspect and I hated MJ

[@RushyDaRabbit]

Jay Williams played for Duke, Michael Jordan played for North Carolina. Explains everything!

[@t-rellfocused9460]

any time a person don't think Jordan a GOD walking, we have to find something out the ass to discredit them.

[@juanmasday2896]

Jordan stated 1v1 Kobe is the hardest thats it no Lebron no KD no one! Only Kobe

[@HIMCULES]

Let me just say, when it's one-on-one, it's personal.

[@marsbalaba9373]

I can't believe this is an argument.. MJ been playing with real Gs back then Lebron is playing with kids now.. plus the game now is very sensitive while game back then is more physical..

[@rmx01indiana]

Truth

[@liammcdaid2759]

Let the media tell you that buddy. “The tough 80s and 90s” shut up lad LBJ would dominate in the 90s, he would average 32,10,9

[@rmx01indiana]

@@liammcdaid2759 You obviously have no clue what you are talking about lol

[@brianf73]

Jordan’s competition was less athletic, poor shooters, and significantly less quick. Lebron would average 50 in the 80’s and 90’s.

[@liammcdaid2759]

@@rmx01indiana how ?

[@NFI05]

Lebron can’t cover him. Once mike gets the ball the games over

[@snowbeast88_ttv]

Not true AT ALL, whatsoever. LeBron is better, just straight facts. Better defensive stats, not defensive team but better stats. Look it up!

[@Hinshu85]

@@snowbeast88_ttv LBJ is better on what? Rebounds? Like Jordan would miss that much to give LBJ stats. You, James's fans are hilarious. MJ would start talking and by the end of it James would quit tired of the annihalition. In 10 games, Jordan would win 7.

[@mortiferomoreno6130]

7 nothing all day...

[@mortiferomoreno6130]

@@Hinshu85 nah, all 10.. 7 nothing

[@Chris-kk6cw]

Lebron is the most physically gifted player ever with padded stats since he came out of hs and played against a weak eastern conference for 10 years. Jordan is naturally going to have less stats when you go to school for 3 years and retire for 2 years in your prime but MJ was the better basketball player. So stats don't count. Championships are 6-0 with a likelihood of 8-0 if he played those 2 years. You can't be GOAT when you lose as many times as Lebron has in the finals. When Lebron joined up with his boyfriend for some fun on the beach the expectations were 5+ titles. If that happened he could have passed MJ. Reality is he didn't show up vs an inferior Dallas team and got his ass locked up by Kidd and Barea. Jordan put fear in his opposition come nba finals. Dallas smelled the pussy in Bron

[@boranesin]

This discussion is like comparing two chess players by looking at their outfit. Haha so funny. after 5 years I heard this.

[@lixiang7349]

Bron doesn’t have a J, which is the most important, most fundamental basketball skill. Case closed.

[@trentmas9210]

Based on style of play. I realistically see a Prime Kobe as the "only" legitimate threat to MJ one on one.

[@matthewwilliams393]

I like that, but I don’t think even kobe would be mike

[@osu1536]

One on one!!! Lebron would eat jordan up so would Shaq so would Hakeem

[@RocStewart86]

One on one every time Kobe and LeBron squared up Kobe ate his lunch🤷🏽‍♂️. There was a statical breakdown of all their matchups and Kobe was hands down the better player. So there’s no way LeBron would dominate MJ one on one, but it would be a great series

[@dominics7565]

Ha he stole MJs moves nah he don’t beat his master

[@mike-mikethemainman8171]

Give me Shaq

[@jootpepet]

I can just imagine Bron trying to post-up mike and failing horribly 😄🤣

[@myorder2]

He doesn’t have a post game , remember Miami heat was trying to get him to establish one he wouldn’t, he can’t move with out the ball and look uncomfortable trying dribble behind his back between legs etc

[@garriusmadison2323]

@@myorder2 he got a post fade away shot his whole career what are you talking about

[@manniesupasport7977]

LeBron even went to train with Hakeem over some summers and still didn’t develop a decent post game LeBron has no midrange game either Just drive to the lane and/or jack up bated 3’s. MJ wins easily

[@travonjennings]

@@manniesupasport7977 lebron has no post up game?? go watch game 2 of the 2018 playoffs in round 2 vs the raptors watch the second half then say that again.

[@user9675]

@@garriusmadison2323 lebrons shot is not consistent/dependable, thats why even kyrie said when durant joined his team he finally had a teammate who could hit a game winner

[@sabyasachisenapati3619]

Tracy Mcgrady : Hey I'm 6'9.😅

[@elirane85]

"So you're saying there is no one who would beat MJ in a 1 on 1 game?" "Yes"

[@jackfrost9466]

"Has Michael Jordon ever played against a guy like LBJ?" Has LBJ ever played against a guy like MJ? Never has and never will. The closest was Kobe and Kobe handled LBJ when he was in his prime. There is no comparison.

[@parikshitrao4208]

Handled? Bruh by the time kobe hit his prime Michael was faaaar removed from his.

[@jackfrost9466]

@@parikshitrao4208 Did you read my comment? I was talking about Kobe handling LBJ when LBJ was in his prime. Like I said, when it comes to MJ there is no comparison.

[@tylerreigle6462]

Lebron led teams were 16-6 against Kobe led teams and he was beatin him with Mo Williams and Kobe had Pau, Bynum, Odom etc sp idk what your talkin about, imo if the Cavs beat Orlando in 09 they beat the Lakers in the finals

[@jackfrost9466]

@@tylerreigle6462 I don't refute your stats, but they are representative of team results. I was referring to KB vs LBJ...player vs player. We can't make a substantiated comparison for MJ vs LBJ, because they never played each other, but the closest to MJ was KB and KB vs LBJ, player vs player...KB was better. That said, MJ reigns supreme as the GOAT, then KB...then further down the line comes LBJ.

[@tj2wavyyy]

@@jackfrost9466 those are meaningless regular season games and Kobe has a losing record, his stats alone doesn’t make him better he has to win too

[@thatt-shirtguy9669]

Why is this even a debate? There is nothing to debate. Only Lebron fans would insinuate such a nonsensical argument.

[@GefahrenHorst23]

That T-shirt Guy Under 30 year olds believe LeBron is the goat... Everyone who saw MJ play knows he's the best. There is a reason people call you the "Michael Jordan" of something if you are the best in it.

[@runescape123kill]

You call MJ the GOAT because, you all are brainshawed. MJ was the GOAT of marketing but, on the court you guys seem to forget Hakeem Olajuwon. Hakeem is so underrated I cannot believe my eyes that his name is never mentionned. Hakeem was as strong mentally then Jordan and he was very quick for a Center. Also, you guys forgot how Wilt Chamberlain was strong and how Bill Russell was smart but, they played in a different era wich is why you cannot compare MJ to these guys. MJ is the one of the best of his era but, you simply cannot say he is the GOAT.

[@kardongpusa4756]

Right

[@whypascal]

TheBrotherTeam-2014 Russell is a legend but come on man played in a league with 8 teams bro.

[@whypascal]

TheBrotherTeam-2014 okay but as an overall player Jordan is better than all of them.

[@flexjay87]

" He's quicker than Michael " ! ?? Hahahaha, NOPE !

[@edemfekpe6261]

Lebron is bigger and stronger 😂

[@flexjay87]

@@edemfekpe6261 , so was Karl Malone, Shaq, Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Laimbeer, etc, etc, and half of the rest of the NBA in the 80's and 90's, but that did not stop Mike from being the Goat, and neither would Bron :)

[@wattwatkins3574]

Bigger and stronger does that even matter with today's rules set?@@edemfekpe6261

[@salsalsalsal789]

why do you need to compare the mentality of a player scoring a free throw with eyes closed against a player who airballed a free throw...

[@leewilliams3554]

MJ ran a 4.3 40 yard dash!!!!! NFL wide receiver speed!!!!!! Oh yeah he also had the highest vertical jump in NBA history. 48.5 in vert!!!!! This dude crazy!!!!!!

[@eggy2750]

L Williams wilt ran 10.9 in 100yd dash and has the highest nba vertical ever recorded but okay.

[@iDrum90]

esli garcia wilt was also 7’1. Gtfo with that highest vertical shit

[@eggy2750]

Kenneth Dunn Vertical has to do with how high your feet get off the ground not your height. Scumbag

[@theanswerpp3702]

More lies, Mj's vertical jump wasn't 48.5 inches.

[@eggy2750]

TheAnswerPP it surely was not