TITLEIST DRIVERS | TSi vs TS vs 917

[@scottwarner1017]

I've got the 917 D3. I love the colour, sound & size of it. I'm not changing anytime soon.

[@ianh8396]

I have the 917 and for xmas got a fitting for the TSi which I am looking forward to as soon as lockdown is over here in Bavaria. Great video and perfect timing.

[@kevinslator1728]

Have owned all three Drivers and the TSi3 stands out for feel of the face, sound and look at address. Those things were enough to persuade me, it’s too early to comment on length until we get into the new season 🤞🏻

[@mikeemery8846]

I totally agree with this Dan, I upgraded’ my 917 to the new TS3 when the TSi came out (with lots of secondhand TS3’ s being sold by people to upgrade to that TSi). That change (combined with a little strike tuition from you) netted me longer (10 yards or so) and straighter drives, especially with the draw weight maxed to calm my slice. I don’t think I’ll be in such a hurry going to the TSi.

[@robertloder6015]

Have 917 with 50g stiff shaft as l am over 65 but still have 100 mph club head speed hope to try a tsi3 when we get back to golf, my 917 still gets me out to play at a reasonable level. Based in Somerset so will give you a call for a fitting

[@richardchester3087]

Interesting video Dan. I moved from an M6 to the TS3 as couldn't really get on with the TM. Love the TS3. For my limited ability I'm not sure I'd notice the change to TSi3 (although a lovely looking club) just now but who knows what the future will bring.

[@georgekopetski292]

Very insightful Dan. I went from 915 Stiff to TS2 Regular ( professional fit) and found a massive improvement in dispersion and length...50% FIR to nearly 70% FIR, and 230 to 245 carry Kenneth

[@FF04RDF]

Used 915 which was the first driver I was fitted for and that plus practice and playing more was a game changer for me. My bad miss was open face right which on my home course brought in OB / trees. Got a good fit and confidence grew knowing that the miss was getting less and less. Stopped aiming left which made it worse and never looked back. Missed 917 and moved into TS3 with lighter, stiffer shaft but was slightly longer in length. That took a few weeks of getting used to but have loved it ever since. Not desperate to move to TSi but never say never !

[@alistairmorgan47]

Fair review, I use the 915D3 which I like to be honest, before that the 909D3 which I still have. I never really see the justification of price vs benefit every year with fresh drivers that come out on the market, granted some do look much nicer and I suppose you can get fitted to keep up with the best suited head and shaft combo. £500 is a lot of lessons and range balls.

[@dancorun6650]

I enjoy the honesty of your comparisons when you do these videos. If you still own the 917 and are happy with it why change and the only reason to change would be the adjustability as you said.

[@perrywiggins6567]

Great real-world comparison!! Thank you

[@mikejazz75]

Just recently purchesed a TS driver as they were being cleared out at a great price and it is a game changer for me ive never hit the ball straighter or longer in the 20 years ive been playing golf

[@tonycrews2758]

Hi Dan , I’ve got m2 2016 driver like Paul’s love it , my 3 wood is 917 16.5 & she goes so good straight n long it’s the go to club , thanks looking forward to the course vlogs when you guys are allowed to . 👌

[@scottdegeer5780]

Perfect timing Dan. I am considering upgrading to the TSi from my TS. I still have my 917 D3 as a backup.

[@aydengreensmith674]

I've had them all, Loved my 917 D3 but found it to really unforgiving on off-center strikes, upgraded to the TS3 in October last year and never really got on with it, was fitted but never liked the look of it with the bigger head, then I got the TSI3 into the bag and it has a similar look to the 917 which I loved and the forgiveness of the ts3, its an absolute winner and will take some beating to come out the bag!

[@jhart8118]

Totally agree. I too have been on the Titliest ride, in my case since the 910. Moved to the 917D3 as the 915 was less forgiving than my 913, and sounded like a firecracker going off with every hit. The 917 still sounds a bit high pitch but definitely better than it’s predecessor. Not sure I got much use out of the fancy weighting system, though. When I tried the TS I too felt underwhelmed. I dislike the shape, felt the bottom of the club looked messy a cheap, the numbers were not significantly better and it kept the fiddly weight adjustment system. Now if the TSI is as quiet as many are saying, the shape is more akin to the slimmer looking 917 and it has a more practical draw bias weight adjustment then I could be in for a change. That said, I’ll need the price to soften as £500 just feels too steep for a single club. That is now twice the cost of a fairway wood…Sounds like you are sold on it though…

[@darrenbell6376]

Although the distance won't vary much I bagged the tsi3 last year Dan purely on forgiveness, looks, sound and accuracy. I don't believe distance has moved on in the last 5 yrs but forgiveness certainly has. Gamed the ts3 before and tsi3 is much better on mishits and accuracy with the same tensei blue shaft. Great video and I wouldn't swap my tsi3 out for nothing and I've tried many of the latest drivers.

[@edkedge68]

Love the sound of the 917

[@robertmoss2813]

I have been using a 915 for a bout 12 months now and it has certainly been an improvement on the Cobra F7 I used previously. I have been looking to trade up but your video is making me reconsider given the small gains. I play with Mizuno MX23’s so am having the same issue with the value of upgrading my irons.

[@adampace2775]

Good comparison on these! I had a 915 D3 which was one of the best drivers I’ve ever had then moved into the 917 D3 but couldn’t get on with it! Never tried any of the TS range, new TSI 3 looks awesome!

[@MrAnders1000]

i use the callaway xr pro 9 degree driver and it still works great. have tried the new maverick and a few other drivers at my pro shop and i cant see anything different really. maby a few yards difference but nothing else. But me and my brother took out our old titleast 975 and thats when i saw a major difference. but that club is 20 years old. my xr pro goes further and straighter and by a lot. the forgivness is so much better in the newer club. But when it comes to changing driver i think you need (for your avrage golfer) wait until your old driver is broken to get a new one or a lot of years to see a big difference really. ofcourse we all like new shiny things but to see big difference tech needs time to give us that difference.

[@rumbie9994]

Just upgraded my 915 D3 for a Ts3. Love it and we'll worth it

[@richardjames5700]

Always enjoy the reviews Dan and like the honesty around the importance of the individual and the strike - interesting that the TSi3 new face technology doesn't seem to add any significant gains on the TS3?

[@DanHendriksenGolf]

Not that I could see but possibly more consistent across the face 👍

[@davidfowkes6534]

Great timing currently have a 917 and picking up a TS3 tomorrow 😀

[@mitchlowbridge3979]

I think if you struck all three drivers absolutely perfectly then there's not much in them at all, possibly slightly more potential in the Tsi3. However, we don't do that and i'm certain over the course of a season, the forgiveness level in the Tsi3 combined with the efficiency across the face would ensure that your AVERAGE driving distance would be further than previous models. Marginal gains but adds up over the year! Good Content Dan, maybe use some foot spray when testing on the course to show us strike??

[@TenPester]

I think you're the only person on YT that's done this comparison. I have the 917D3, and from this, i don't see what i'd get from moving up. I'd be better spending the money on lessons. My wife is going to think i've lost my mind.

[@gregfloyd2059]

Interesting vlog. Dan, please please please do the same with old and new irons. I started 30 yrs ago with lynx irons. Now use x14's, understand about loft but would love to see how irons technology has improved. I have a feeling it's not a massive difference. Keep up the good work

[@davidballard9781]

Interesting video dan I got fitted once for a ts2 but never bought the club as I wasn’t convinced it was better than a already had as it was a fitting I won in a comp and didn’t have my driver I used with me so nothing to compare it with. When we’re out of lockdown I do intend to start looking for a new driver as mines now about 10yrs old

[@grahameturner7415]

Cheers Dan. Think it’s fair to say the 917 was bit behind the curve against its rivals but TS and TSI have defo put that to rights and you can see it in non contracted tour players now rocking TSI as free agents. Hope you will do Ping G400 max. G410 plus and G425 max. Love my G410 but it’s now well used and that G425 looks like it may be an improvement for us guys that can spray it off the tee 🤣

[@idavies1234]

Great Video Dan. I upgraded my 915 D2 driver to the TS3 but still using the 915 fairway woods. Thinking of changing these to a newer model and would be interested in seeing a similar comparison video with fairway woods.

[@papab3272]

Great video Dan! I know it might be tedious, but it would be really interesting to see the difference in performance and shot shape via the weight settings between the TS3 and TSi3. I love my TS3 and wonder if the new TSi3 weight system allows for better fitting?

[@mikebest634]

Good review Dan.

[@jamestedbennett7788]

Great comparison video Dan 👍, I’ve gamed a 915 for 2 years now and in my mind it’s better than the TM r15 i was using before, just on feel alone. Neither drivers were fitted, I couldn’t tell you what settings my 915 is on 😂. Are pro’s interested in fitting amateurs into there current driver or just selling them the latest stock? Keep up the great content as it is honest and relatable 👊

[@keithfinley2939]

I had a 917 D3 10.5° but didn't love it. Went to TS2 9.5° and it was perfect. Can't see changing any time soon...

[@ab7047]

I still love my 915 d3 it still performs as well as anything else I've tested. I do like the look of the new ping though

[@ajaytuk7416]

great video, would love to see the strokes gained though, ideally on course data ( and ideally over several rounds). I always say the test of a good driver was someone who could play on a strange course and still bang it up the middle a good distance. Currently gaming a callaway diablo octane.

[@5756strat]

Greetings from NZ. Interesting item Dan and very timely as I'm currently considering transitioning from my 917 to something else - TS3 perhaps or maybe another brand? I hit my 917 ok, albeit with omnipresent strike variability, so like some of the other people commenting, would the extra cost to upgrade be justified based on your tests. Frankly, I'm sceptical. How would these drivers perform in the hands of a lesser player. I was once a long hitter (Scratch player) but my ball/swing speed has dropped over the years as I've gotten older. My ball speed is currently around 140. My question is, how can I better optimise my 917 by finding a more suitable shaft e.g. something lighter? It would be interesting for you guys to compare the performance of some different shafts in these drivers from time to time - I suspect you may have already done so in a previous vlog? - but of course the manufacturers aren't interested in selling just a shaft!. Remember that most of us out here in Utube land represent a cross section of skill levels and swing speeds. I enjoy your Vlogs, especially the course vlogs, but I believe a bringing in a female (someone like Sophie Walker) from time to time, would add a lot value to your channel - maybe more than you think! Cheers

[@antd684]

Dan, I'm currently playing 917 and have been fitted by Titleist for both TS & TSi and i think thej jump to TSi 2 is more noticeable with for me a more penatrating flight with better dispersion, but cost benefits are very small so I'm going to work on upgrading the nut holding the shaft for another 2 years

[@razakhan999]

good comparison.... think we need more of such videos to put in perspective the gains we get from a new driver each year.. could you please do a comparison between callaway Mavrik standard and epic speed standard driver.. would like to see the gains as im gaming mavrik these days. would appreciate it.

[@stuartbarclay1134]

For me I changed to TSi3 from Ts3 and found a better shape of shot something to do with strike weight placement but really happy so far😇

[@alanrowney2222]

I actually upgraded from a TS3 to a TSi2, primarily due to dispersion. It was money well spent for me, not that I can really remember hitting it!

[@ScottyFan]

Interesting vid pal, thanks 👍🏻

[@ronaldnelson7562]

I upgraded from the 915. I got another 10 yards and a straighter flight maybe from lower spin. Was it worth the $$$$? Realistically probably not however to me personally, yes just for the sound and appearance and shaft choice. I did have buyers remorse at first but now I'm glad I did get it.

[@chrisl8358]

Can you do a review comparing the Tsi3 to the Tsi2. I'm still using a 913 D2.

[@danielsharp3212]

Are Titleist struggling with sales Dan? price of new drivers they have launched have placed them out of the market, surely this video should have an advisement disclaimer attached too!?

[@Mboogie69]

I’ve been using 917 and haven’t been able to see enough gains to justify price in new range.

[@mjv40]

Yeah I’m still using the 913. I just feel like on the golf course the gains are so small you can’t even perceive them. That said, I do think I’m ready for an upgrade.

[@jeffrichardson4941]

I’m gaming a 913 d3 too. Just threw out the cobra radspeed. I’m hitting the 913 further and much straighter.

[@youcantxime]

@@jeffrichardson4941 I recently went back to the 913 d3 and I can't figure out why the hell I bought a new driver lol. I think the "fitter" at the PGA Superstore was doing some shenanigans on the launch monitor lol

[@garysmith6994]

Had the 917 till recently just changed to an epic flash

[@locobenno9435]

excellent review Dan. I gamed the 913D3 for years and couldn't replace it with the 915 or 917, both felt and looked horrible by comparison. Then a few months ago the TS3 went on sale in prep for the new models to come out so I jumped on a deal and it finally pushed the 913 out of the bag.....but in terms of looks I totally get what you're saying, the TS3 has got a weird bulbous look about it which I haven't been able to get totally comfortable with. So I'm curious to see what the TSi3 brings in looks based on your review. My pro shop has a Titleist fitting cart and they let us demo the heads on-course so I'm keen to take one out.

[@TramSpotter649]

I have a 917 D3 and I am very happy with it. So, very interested in this comparison. Outcome? I remain very happy with my D3, no need to change. Thanks.

[@leescastle8324]

Hi Dan, with there being a multitude of drivers on the market, would you be prepared to produce a vlog providing advice on the different shafts available and what to consider when looking to acquire a new driver?

[@PMMeiners]

Playing a TS2 now but thinking to move to the new Ping G425 if it performs better. Love my TS2 but looking for getting a bit more out of my driver. A bit more forgiveness as well as stability. Will definitely also try the TSi3 but it will only go into my bag if it outperforms the G425 or my TS2.

[@waynehumphries2699]

I’ve been using a 915 d3 for years now and I’ve been really tempted by the ts3 but on the course I had a go with a friends Calloway epic flash and all there was in it was 8 yards!!!! And my 915 d3 is a 7 year old driver(2014) Do I change????

[@holliswong8519]

I actually really like this sort of content. Love the on course stuff too, but those are a little harder for me to follow, especially with the wind noise on my AirPod. 🙉

[@martynmurfitt-wrather7555]

Currently playing 917D3 but have had a rotten time driving for some time now - however, this is undoubtedly down to my poor swing technique, and I have invested in some lessons first (as/when/if lockdown ends) & then I will look at making a change - even moving away from Titleist if I can find something that suits - that, however, is easier said than done in the golfing wilderness that is Ipswich!

[@ForetoFourGolf]

I've always thought replacing a driver every 3 years is about right for an amateur golfer, would you agree? these stats would appear to back that up. I'm currently using a ping g400 which I'll probably replace this year as that mark is up for me in september and when I tried the G410 I couldn't see much difference. I suppose the only difference would be if you made dramatic improvements in swing speed, even then a new shaft might be enough?

[@kevinjohnson2380]

I’m currently playing a 915D2, which I’m going to upgrade this year to Tsi 2 or 3 depending on how the fitting goes

[@sarniasurfer]

Sorry, I'm a Callaway user. However, I'm sure your findings would be much the same for all company's drivers. It is interesting to see what the new drivers bring. (Or don't)

[@chrisecky5466]

My current driver is a 917 d2. But this year I’m looking to try out the tsi range. I like the looks and sound of the tsi but I’m also going to try the new ping range also. Hopefully when we get out of lockdown then it will be time to go get a fitting

[@diogeneslantern18]

Lol I'm upgrading for a 909d2 stiff to the 917d2 reg flex :)

[@markscars1069]

Need to decide whether to spend some money on a motorcycle license (something I’ve always fancied, much to my wife’s concern) or some new clubs. A new Titleist driver is an interesting thought. And because the alternative is utterly unacceptable in my wife’s eyes, I’m onto a winner...

[@MM-zb9kc]

Dan- when you test indoors on the Trackman do you use premium balls or range type balls? Also is there a difference on the launch monitor? I know there is in actual play but never knew it the launch monitors also could see the difference?

[@joshgrossman6176]

I love the shape of the TSi3 head.

[@danwaite4927]

I'd love to see this again with some of the older models, I'm still gaming a 910 D3 but am thinking about upgrading to the tsi but not sure if it's worth the extra money when I hit it so well.

[@nicmansfield5769]

This video will sell a lot of preowned 917s

[@samwilliams586]

Titleist reps screaming “Take this down DH” lol

[@steventreeby3977]

I Have the 917 driver, and tried the TSI2 driver at my local club, must admit felt lovely and went further, but could be to do with a lighter shaft. £500 for 20 yards did not seem worth it, maybe just change my existing shaft!

[@petekenny3774]

500 quid for 20 yards 👀 for me that's a no brainer 20 yards is huge gains 💪 😳

[@simonwalker1611]

The 917 came with a shorter shaft originally. Did you find it performed better with your shaft from the tsi3? Really interesting test.

[@samwilliams586]

I went from 915 d3 to TS3 and regretted it. The TS3 while being the bigger head (460cc vs 440cc) looked more squatted at address and just didn’t give me confidence when swinging it. Sure I probably give up 8-15 yards on drives but 915 is back in the bag. TSI3 is intriguing but not at $550 USD

[@richardashman8254]

I’m playing the 917 and love it but was looking for an upgrade. Currently I can’t see any significant advantage in the price to buy a new TSi with the possible couple of yards benefit. I think club technology has just about topped out and so the rest is marketing.

[@CarguyJerry]

Still confused on these similar designations. Unable to find the difference between the TS1 and a TSi1. Anybody?

[@Jenks465]

This video shows you exactly why you see so many good players still gaming M2 drivers. Why would you spend £500 for a gain of a yard or two and then have to rediscover your strike and shape tendencies when you've got something you're already comfortable with?

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[@justinstephenson9360]

If you compare good shots against good shots from drivers released over the last 5-8 years there will be minimal differences in carry. What virtually every reviewer fails to comment enough about is the statistical significance of differences in carry distances. 3 yards (just over 1%) in carry over 7 yards is not statistically significant, certainly not worth paying £400-500 to replace the driver. For me, and the reason I am contemplating changing my 4 year old Epic, is how bad strikes perform and how stable (or not) such strikes feel to the player. Catch the Epic slightly out of the toe - or worse significantly into the toe - and the club head really twists in my hands

[@loutennant99]

little head to head to head test :-)

[@travisg.1310]

I swing a jpx 850 mizzuno driver, do you think its time to update? With all the changes since my driver was released, do you think newer tech will help a high handicapper more than the 850?

[@DanHendriksenGolf]

I would like to think so, but you will have to try and see what you get 👍

[@hagopterzontz4739]

Dan your looking more like Iron Byron by the day 👍👍👍

[@ignatiusjk]

What you and EVERYBODY ELSE should be looking at is distance,distance and more distance. It's a driver it's only made for distance that's it. Your totals all look with in the 290 total,which is great. If a new driver is not giving you more distance then stick with what you have.

[@beckyswifty]

Currently playing the 917D2 and would have had a look at TSi but with other comparable drivers at more competitive price points I think I’ll be looking elsewhere this time.

[@ybach64]

Yes I have an old 915 and I like it, but I would like to see what the TSi could do, but I play of 14 would it really be worth it. I couldn’t afford one anyway to honest, never mind justify the cost. My iron are so old that they would have to the first change, I bet you don’t even remember the Taylormade X-03 irons, they were the first hollow body irons I think.

[@simonthorpe6971]

Can only speak from the perspective of a 15 handicapper. I reality for my level, the numbers are so similar, I would go for the 917 which I imagine you could pick up for a fraction of the cost now. Maybe different if I was a pro where every yard counts

[@GregSmith-ox5ou]

Nice work as always Dan, but can’t help but feel that Titleist Drivers just aren’t relevant to most average golfers, no matter how good they may be.

[@joehunt6321]

Perfect timing for video. Hmm 🤔

[@opian3]

Currently have a 917d2 that I've abused (poor thing). Always entertaining looking but, between the prices of new drivers and the marginal increases everyone sees, I've yet to really consider pulling the trigger. Then again, driver is my worst club and I'd want to tighten that up before I bought anything.

[@ScottDreyfus]

I never hit 917 but I can say without a doubt the ts3 was the straightest driver I tried in the last 4 years

[@bothered1984]

I'm still playing a regular shaft taylorade r7 desperate to upgrade love the look of the new tsi3 driver but its such a lot of money. Do you want to send me your old one pleasseee 😆

[@jules8148]

Sticking with the 917, £499 for an extra 3 yds , cheque gone into habitation ( That’s the Yorkshireman in me😂😂)

[@jeffto23ify]

What is the cost difference between all the clubs ? Will the new club lower your score that much ?

[@davidfletcher6836]

Interesting vid not much difference then in reality 👍

[@petekenny3774]

Off centre hits is now what all these new drivers are about ..there is hardly any gains in distance 1 -5 yards if your lucky centre strike... get one you like look of or buy something 4 or 5 years old 👊👊👊👊 some lovely looking drivers about by all OEMs now

[@jeffkeim5865]

I'm going with the B21 straight low spin

[@pegteam1714]

The most important numbers here.....are those on the current price tags. 917 £100 ish...TS £200 ish...TSi £500....got to be a 917 for me!

[@limes..100]

£200 is ok for ts but £500 is disgraceful

[@michaelbledsoe1060]

May be I am repeating my self, sorry if I am, but given the price of a new driver and living on retirement income, the cost is prohibitive. So unless one, or all my offspring gift me one, I will probably pound my Ping G-10 until the end. Thanks for your outstanding channel. Cheers from Texas. 🤠

[@petermccormick9250]

If there is no particular distance or dispersion gain, what is the point of spending £500 on it.

[@GRIFF22]

Nearly all the reviews are showing the same thing now. Out of the middle there's almost no gain. BUT..the latest models are way better on off centre hits compared to just a few years ago

[@howardbass2345]

I just dont know why anyone would waste money buying a new driver.

[@Stevenfaulkner57]

Is it me or did you have less side spin and dispersion with the 917? You then went and smacked it on the 17th green and pulled the other 2 left. Strikes me you should be gaming the 917, you'll hit more fairways.

[@streamleazefishhouse]

I use a 910, no chance of changing for a new driver at those prices maybe a second hand 917.

[@samwilliams586]

Second hand 917’s selling for 140ish USD in really good condition on eBay. Hard to beat that

[@streamleazefishhouse]

@@samwilliams586 I'll be honest I'm quite happy with my 910 which I got 3 years ago for £50. I'm lucky if I play twice a month at the moment. I'll keep it in mind though if I feel I'm leaving significant distance on the table.

[@Jimmy-2-Times]

👍🏻

[@easyswing007]

You should of gone back to 913

[@beachfraser3747]

Dan, the question is always the same eh? Why spend the extra £££ when its all basically the same, you can get a 917 for probably half the money eh??

[@robertoreilly9783]

So basically...don't spend 550quid on a new driver and buy one from 4 years ago. Same for TM...as we see with Will and your brother, who don't do too badly with an M2.

[@jeffrichardson4941]

The 917d3 is 440cc

[@ikaikamaleko8370]

No real dif in distance.

[@EricCartmenez1]

Dan, you should do a putter test with all of your scotty's to see which one wins out!