Daniel Holtzclaw Case Analysis | Investigators Restore Memories of Victims Who Forgot Cop's Crimes

[@etantife]

I honestly believe that there were multiple offenders in this department and Daniel took the hit for all of them.

[@thomasblock1164]

Etan. You are probably correct. They "cleaned" up the entire force on this one guy. Plus, the other officers were probably scared straight by his sentence, and the realization that anyone of them could get the same "justice" Daniel received. That said he probably had some level of guilt, sort of unfair to be sentenced for others crimes as well. All tied up in a neat bow.

[@誰かの捨て垢-r4e]

This. I don’t think he’s completely innocent given that he turned off the cam. However, I don’t think he’s guilty for all and if there’s been a miscarriage of justice, it should be addressed.

[@xminusone1]

He was taken as an example maybe?

[@xminusone1]

@@誰かの捨て垢-r4e I don't know how he can prove that.

[@BenState]

@@thomasblock1164 probably?

[@aarondavis8943]

Body cameras protect innocent civilians _and_ honest cops. They should be mandatory and impossible to turn off.

[@dc4334]

“Impossible to turn off”….ok fantasy land. Come back to reality and use your. Brain cells. Minimum 10’year storage of data…..for all cops. All the time? In the bathroom. At lunch? What an idiotic take but an uneducated troll.

[@tanazinn8484]

I agree

[@lucaazeri1700]

100%

[@KingSlayer_.]

💯💯💯

[@cincyborn]

Yes, he's young and young people are not totally up to speed into protecting themselves from accusations. Don't stop women in the night without backup or a camera, probably just trying to meet people, but he's not an abuser.

[@TalkernateHistory]

This is why body cameras are so important. If there was video of these interactions that proved things one way or the other, there wouldn't be a trial in the first place.

[@brianwaller7383]

Yep I remember a case a few years ago an officer having a false rape accusation. The body camera proved otherwise

[@Jimmy911ism]

When this story came out, he was 'turning off his camera before stops' - I took this at the time to mean his body camera. Now it's a 'computer', which seems to also operate the car camera, and he only did that once before a stop, the only after hours stop he made, because he was routinely turning it off at the end of his shift. The detectives and early media reports were totally misleading.

[@Alawiggle]

How would that help? He was off duty and turned his computer off. He'd turn the camera off too

[@brianwaller7383]

@@Alawiggle also most officers upload their camera sd card after each shift and leave the cameras at the station.

[@Alawiggle]

@@brianwaller7383 yeah this guy would claim his dog ate it

[@nadermazari3334]

Never talk to the police without an attorney. And a good attorney. I have some very close childhood friends who are career cops and they themselves have told me to keep my mouth shut if I am ever arrested.

[@silverwiskers7371]

well the cops warn you when they read your rights, but, your right on target here

[@whizimskizim6220]

Don't matter he's a down syndrome lol

[@TailwalkBoats]

He said nothing in the interview to incriminate himself at all though.

[@tski3458]

@@TailwalkBoats just being there is bad enough.

[@cindymac187]

Yes you should always keep your mouth shut until you get a lawyer

[@victoriawilliams2786]

"Cash induced memory restoration." 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm going to have to remember that! Thank-you Doc! I hope you're doing wonderful.

[@ACarchives]

I about died when he said that too! 😂

[@sashachitownvillegas6850]

helarious!🤣🙌

[@redlegds_adventures]

@@ACarchives 😝

[@garden2356]

89.99% of human suffer from this condition

[@cindymac187]

SOME OF THESE LADIES ARE COMING FORWARD AND THEY ARE SAYING THAT HE did not read them unless they didn’t even know him see they actually have a conscience that lady cop don’t

[@DBSG1976]

As a former police officer, this case always bothered me because the investigation was sloppy and biased, with that being said he made very bad decisions going against department policy and making stops off duty. In my department we had a police officer who was stopping young women and was sexual with them. He also didn't call out with his stops and the cases are similar. Too political to be considered a fair trail, but there was something off about his conduct.

[@beccac6812]

My theory is he did do some things wrong / illegal, and other things were added onto the trial that maybe weren’t him.

[@ogarzabello]

Thank God for cameras and social media, you guys are out of control abusing your authority as public bureaucrats with guns and badges being predators (bullies and tax collectors giving tickets) instead of peace officers with a clear mandate: to serve and protect, and complaining about why people distrust and dislike you so much in recent years. But you are needed and some leftist communities go as far as defunding the police. That's a lose-lose scenario for everybody. So, you need to clean up your act and regain the public's trust, a national movement of committed police officers must be created to promote change, accountability, ethics, and values.

[@katydiditshedid]

The only time Holtzclaw stopped an accuser and had his computer off was the Jannie Ligons stop that he made on his way home. All other accusers were stops made during the course of his shift. There is radio traffic where he calls them in. Why would he call them in and risk another officer driving by the area if he intended to assault them? It was the GPS on his onboard computer that the detectives and prosecutor used to craft the cases against him. The detectives didn't record interviews where key information was supposedly gained from the accusers. They didn't investigate other possible police officers. They also didn't supply the defense with an edit log showing when the GPS records were pulled. Detectives say they didn't have access to GPS records until after the women told them where he took them. This is a case of unethical police work and prosecutorial misconduct.

[@WhiteUnicorn82]

@@katydiditshedid Surely they'd know if someone were a police officer! I don't understand where that comes into it: did a victim allege that they may have been attacked by someone that isn't a police officer?

[@patwats8860]

I believe he was innocent. The arrests were flawed.

[@justinhurst9402]

Had it in his head and repeated the phrase "I just wanna go home" over and over in interrogation. But then pulled someone over who he thought maybe shouldn't be driving and do his job. Then finds out that she has no drivers license... that indeed she shouldn't be driving. But doesn't call it in.. doesn't do his job. So you want to go home very badly and done with job.. then pull someone over to do your job.. but then don't do your job? And make no record of pulling the vehicle over? Went ghost mode In your cruiser.. why would you pull someone over because you think they shouldn't be driving and then you find out that indeed they shouldn't be driving and then let the person drive off? Pretty suspicious to me.

[@showmevids1984]

Very suspicious

[@etuboldon]

Plus he was unable to account for the 10 minutes or so he was "alone with her" in the backseat of the car, "interrogating her".

[@gdc6153]

You are a smart person

[@gwildor8543]

Police need to be held accountable for wrongdoing, but this case has always struck me as a railroading expedition by the admin.

[@thirstinthrockmortoniii9202]

Fortunately, the authorities know better than you.

[@fightinglionenjoyer4503]

@@thirstinthrockmortoniii9202 the dna evidence cleared Daniel, the dna test came up negative from main accuser ligons mouth

[@thirstinthrockmortoniii9202]

@@fightinglionenjoyer4503 Not only did the DNA evidence NOT "clear" Holtzclaw, it tied him to his underage victim. He's guilty. Period.

[@lewisner]

Railroading expedition for what reason ?

[@jmoo876]

@@thirstinthrockmortoniii9202keep that same energy next time for someone that’s not a cop

[@AnnSmajstrla]

I agree with you. I think he did SOMETHING, but isn't guilty of every single charge brought against him.

[@Emolga6274]

It doesn’t matter . He got 260 years lol

[@allenmk138]

One less dirty cop at least. He probably wasn't liked by other cops, which is why they wanted him to lose his job. Cops usually like to support other cops in investigations like this.

[@maestroofamore8948]

@Ann S: Well, he wasn't convicted of every single charge brought against him, but 18 felony convictions is still pretty bad.

[@AnnSmajstrla]

@@allenmk138 good point

[@chad3232132]

I think Holtzclaw committed some of the crimes, but others might have actually been carried out by other police officers, so investigators pinned the blame for all of them on this guy out of convenience.

[@billyelliot78]

Finally a reasonable take on this whole matter. I do believe that some of the indisputable facts surrounding the case does make Holtzclaw look guilty of some wrong doing but he should never have been found guilty of those charges and sent to prison for 200+ years by our court of law. Its utterly shameful how the investigation, prosecution and trial was conducted.

[@shwah8299]

You are right.... he should have gotten the death penalty.

[@redraven_y2k]

Why not people get life or murdered for much less! He is crying because he thought that privilege (half white and blue wall )applied to him when victimizing the most unprotected woman in the world, a black woman. Which is why he choose them to begin with. From a psychological standpoint, I want to know what was being taught to him as he was growing up. I want to know how much hate against POC was being thrown around in his upbringing by his white father and Japanese mother. Hate against darker-skinned people has been proven to be strong among both cultures and law enforcement. Stop making up excuses to fit your biased ideas. He may not have harmed all of them but if he traumatizes just one that's one too many! If he was black and his victims were white women would many of you still have this much energy and doubt ? Bottomline, he has been convicted and is serving all of that 200 years!

[@whizimskizim6220]

People saying he's innocent cuz he's a down syndrome hahaha 😆 😂

[@דראילוןוולף-הכיווןהכלכלי]

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[@דראילוןוולף-הכיווןהכלכלי]

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[@pageribe2399]

I have no idea whether or not this guy is guilty. BUT Anyone who deals with the general public in any kind of official capacity should ALWAYS follow the expected, protective protocols, no matter how trivial it might seem at the time. It could save your job, reputation, money, and maybe even your life. I'll step down from my soap box now.

[@suzanneflowers2230]

You are fine. We all get on a soapbox at times and people are going to think what they want, no matter what our intentions may be.

[@Soulfullnsight]

Either you do the right thing, every time or you wish you had. Getting away with breaking a rule or law (moral, civil, or legal) gets easier each time. The easier it becomes, the more careless the offender is. Carelessness is what gets most criminals caught.

[@Soulfullnsight]

@@GL0580 Most criminals will not leave direct forensic evidence, let alone anyone in law enforcement. Keep in mind, he turned his MDC off, he did not call the traffic stop out to the dispatcher... a woman's DNA was found on the fly of his uniform--- just to begin with. He put himself in harms way when he failed to follow protocol which is in place to protect him and the public.

[@melistasy]

@@Soulfullnsight yea, he messed up and it will cost him big time!

[@susiebrown6646]

The Dr won’t “like” this reasonable comment. It doesn’t help his ego.

[@jenanne31]

Thank you, Dr. Grande. Your videos are always a pleasure to watch. I enjoy your careful analyses and logical conclusions.

[@woodywoodlstein9519]

Logical ? Lmao. You mean biased and self serving.

[@AmusedChild]

Bravo, Dr. Grande! I believed this cop was evil at first, and now I'm appalled at this miscarriage of justice.

[@projectpunk706]

Woah, woah, woah... "Miscarriage of justice"??? Yeah idk about that... The dude clearly wanted to assault women and was an opportunist. Power tripping pig, as usual. So what the hell makes you think this was a "miscarriage of justice" I would love to know!

[@katydiditshedid]

Thank you for having an open mind.

[@maestroofamore8948]

You were right the first time: He's EVIL.

[@bobojenkins2442]

Miscarriage of justice? The evidence is overwhelming. Please explain how the stories of the first 2 ladies’ police reports are nearly identical

[@thirstinthrockmortoniii9202]

They don't wanna talk about that,@@bobojenkins2442.

[@tangents6880]

No one seems to be questioning how a woman (Ligons) who hasn't been arrested in over 30 years and has no reason or motive to start a smear campaign against an officer goes to the police station at 3:00 in the morning in tears with accusations against holtzclaw. It would be one thing if she got a ticket or something but she had no motive to go to a police department at 3:00 in the morning and claim that she was raped. That alone is a major red flag. People don't just go to police departments and claim that cops have raped them especially at 3:00 in the morning. Let's use some common sense here.

[@katydiditshedid]

You are saying, no one ever makes false allegations?

[@tangents6880]

@@katydiditshedid I'm saying that in the absence of a clear motive, a grandmother/daycare worker that just got off of a traffic stop despite having no driver's license has absolutely zero incentive to make said allegations.

[@HoltzclawTrial]

Ligons had tons of motive. Start with the fact she was flat broke and used these allegations to file a lawsuit seeking millions. Second, only one person's version of that traffic stop can not be disproven- Daniel's version. Ligons claimed she was made to place her hands (palms down) on the hood of the car (a felony stop). Daniel said that never happened. Analysis of the car and the video of the stop proved she lied (why did she lie?). Ligons claimed Daniel placed his hands on the top of the car during the stop. Daniel said that didn't happen. The car was examined and no evidence could be found to prove her allegations. Ligons and her family told other lies about that night that were shown in the trial.

[@tangents6880]

@@HoltzclawTrial well when it comes to the traumatic experiences not all of the details are accurately recollected. Are you saying that if someone does not completely reiterate an assault verbatim that they are lying? I have sympathy for Daniel's family because they are going through this right along with him. It is not my intention to lambast the family as a whole. But I think it would be in Daniel's best interest to come forward and say that he was guilty of one or two of these crimes, but not all of them. Also it is technically possible for someone to place the palms of their hand on the top of a vehicle and there be little to no trace of it within 24 hours. It's not saying much to say that because Liggins palm and fingerprints weren't present on the top of the car that they weren't placed there even for a moment. It is a flimsy argument to say the least. In my opinion there were multiple officers involved in sexual assaults during that time period and Daniel was responsible for only one or two. He should probably not spend the rest of his life in prison but he should serve time for the Liggins case and perhaps one other. Could you imagine getting off of a traffic stop despite having no valid driver's license and acting hysterically yet still going to the police station and attempting to make a claim? It's not the best situation to wage a full-on assault against an officer.

[@HoltzclawTrial]

@@tangents6880 It wasn't 24 hours. And, you are ignoring the fact Daniel specifically said that never happened, she said it did and the evidence supports Daniel. There is zero evidence to support your bizarre fantasies of vast sexual corruption. Yet, you still can't point to any actual evidence of guilt. Your bias is showing

[@clarencegboddicker8144]

Daniel intentionally and routinely cut the computer off in his cruser, in addition had 18 complaints of excessive force is definitely enough to bury you. Especially if someone is out to nail you. Never speak to cops without a attorney

[@chad3232132]

One would think an actual police officer would know better than anyone not to talk to the cops without an attorney. Then again, maybe as a cop he thought he could talk his way out of it better than a civilian.

[@danielghosn6529]

Thank you @Clarence for making the post. 100% true facts and so many people try to defend this POS. He already had a trail he started on his own, got caught, denied everything. Good job to the police department for exposing this.

[@KingSlayer_.]

@@chad3232132 True but let me paint a picture: You've been raping and sexually abusing over a dozen women in that past year. Your a police officer and you know damn well that you'd be fucked if you get caught. Never have I seen anyone in that situation not crack like and egg. During the whole interview he was so calm it was almost bizarre to think he did commit the crimes and be so incredibly confident that he would get away with all of it. The possibilitity of you life getting ruined is enough to terrify even the most confident of people. This looks to me like very innocent behavior. Like he was so relaxed and calm because he knew damn well that he didn't do jack shit. He wanted to just get everything on with and put it behind him as just a bunch of silly accusations and get back home to get some sleep. And that's what makes this case so scary to me.

[@katydiditshedid]

You are correct that Daniel "intentionally and routinely cut the computer off in his cruiser" but NEVER during the course of his shift. At trial, the GPS records revealed he turned his computer off as he was leaving the station on his way home. Detectives used his GPS/AVL records to reverse engineer a case against him. If his computer would have been turned off there would be no GPS/AVL records. Instead, he called in all the women that he was accused of assaulting and placed himself "out with them". I think the 18 use of force investigations played a huge role in OCPD brass deciding to sacrifice him. Most people don't realize that use of force is defined as any amount of force greater than placing on the handcuffs. All OCPD was worried about was how these allegations and Daniel's past use of force investigations were going to be perceived by the public, especially on the heels of Trayvon Martin being shot and Zimmerman not being held accountable. Their main goal was to avoid riots in OKC. He was soo naive to talk to detectives without an attorney. There is a great podcast about this case, "Bates Investigates."

[@justintime1343]

Holtzclaw apologist,@@katydiditshedidattacks a strawman: *"...but NEVER during the course of his shift."* He wasn't accused of cutting off his computer during his shift. He was accused of cutting off his computer prior to his clandestine, after-work traffic stops, which, for some reason, he also conveniently neglected to call in, conducted against women, for "swerving & whatnot", which coincidentally happened to be the very same women he'd been using his police computer to stalk. Also, Zimmerman has nothing whatsoever to do with this case, but he WAS in fact, "held accountable" - arrested, tried, & acquitted (UNLIKE Holtzclaw) by his jury. NOR was Holtzclaw "soo naive" (he was a 5-year police veteran), but ARROGANT - convinced that his lies would trump his victims' testimony.

[@marybelle3516]

I live here and have never forgotten this. If you could see some of the video of the police questioning these “accusers,” it was disgusting. They were led and led and led until they said what was wanted. By leading, I mean they flat out told him what they needed to say. That was after they went out and drummed them up. They were all known to police. I watched one woman say he did nothing wrong at least half a dozen times until it was obvious she had to give false witness to be able to leave. The “touch DNA” present on his uniform was no more than could be easily obtained from a person who checks you in at the doctor’s office. The guy deserves a new trial.

[@JohnSmith-jz4pk]

He 100% raped a few though. And traded sexual Favors for tickets to go away. He admitted that even……

[@found-it0620]

Absolutely...this was a setup.

[@etuboldon]

@@polarbearsrus6980 Exactly!!!!

[@randyrawdingii5135]

You're absolutely right. I've watched as much as I can find of those interrogations and that they were able to use their statements as evidence is actually nauseating. I think Daniel was 23ish? Young and dumb, not realizing the far reaching consequences, as I also did at that age. He wasn't perfect but monsters don't openly weep when convicted... It's a travesty of justice, IMO, and he should be given a retrial YESTERDAY. Something's fishy in KC with all the shenanigans, witness, and evidence issues they allowed to stand. Free Daniel Holtzclaw!

[@joe.7147]

Why does Daniel get 263 years with no evidence and another abusing 41 miner girls some as young as 9 with more than enough evidence and admitted to the accusations gets 12?

[@imemine6494]

.. Cuz the women are black?

[@Leve.Palestina.Viva.Palestina]

Corruption

[@sandra177]

IKR? Murderers get an average of 7-10 actual years. I feel like he’s more innocent than guilty. But he wasn’t guilty beyond doubt. Should have got probation.

[@stevexanny]

@@imemine6494 ding ding ding (there's obviously more to the story than this but this sums it up nicely)

[@ImaCocoNgati]

Why did they remake all the movies with black cast? There’s a bizzaro world situation going on… pretty sure Big pharma is behind it 😂😂

[@dissidentfairy4264]

My first reaction when I saw the photos was 'no way.' Then the DNA evidence became a factor along with so many victims. So then I thought he must be guilty, but then when the victim described him as having blonde hair, I mean it's crazy. He is the furthest thing from being blonde. So her testimony kind of flew out the window. Another woman said he was a short Black man? Huh? It almost sounds as if Daniel was set up by an officer(s) in the police force who didn't like him for whatever reason. They may have even planted the DNA. Who knows? In some ways, Daniel set himself up by turning off his computer and by stopping women when he was off duty so it's hard to know where the truth really lies. The jury was careless, the witnesses unreliable, and the police are suspect. I feel this case needs to be reopened.

[@dcnative1618]

There are lots of people who think he took the fall for a group in LE guilty of shenanigans.

[@jhozthron4415]

Right, how the hell is he in prison, there is ZERO evidence and the ''victims'' who accused him were trash and druggies, sure i could see him getting a couple of years but 236 years what kind of joke is that?

[@dissidentfairy4264]

@@jhozthron4415 I agree about the number of years he was given, it's unconscionable! People receive less time for murder and child molestation. There's something off about this case that just doesn't feel right. As I said, they need to investigate and reopen this case.

[@ellejane4270]

Sadly, The quality of evidence that convicted him is FAR below the standard of what would be required to even get a new trial. He's buried.

[@Emolga6274]

@@dissidentfairy4264 the america. Justice system is like playing roulette. Sometimes u get off easy and sometimes u get max

[@shine-onprofessionalwashin5330]

Doctor Grande. Thank you for being rational, logic, centered, and so hard working. Wow! You’re the best (in my opinion) thanks!

[@susiebrown6646]

Smh

[@Ekrooool]

For anyone interested in a deep dive into all the inconsistencies, Matt Orchard's channel has an amazing video covering all the controversial details and its truly eye opening and shows how ridiculous the official story is. Whether he's guilty or not there's definitely more pieces to the puzzle

[@SammySam7x]

After watching the full interview with the investigators, he is guilty af. He was acting weird, not like an innocent man at all. Watch the initial police interrogation. You can tell he didn't expect to get caught, especially so soon and didn't know what to say.

[@Ekrooool]

@@SammySam7x yeah I agree and I too thought he was guilty after seeing that, but after seeing Matt's video there was definitely something shady going on at that Police Department

[@adayinforever]

Almost like he wasn't the only one doing it, but he got thrown under the bus while everyone else went free.

[@adayinforever]

@@polarbearsrus6980 Huh? Nobody said he wasn't guilty here. Nobody insinuated he should be freed either. What are you talking about?

[@jackedkerouac4414]

He was the patsy to a departmental wide abuse of power and sexual misconduct. The fact those women who described perps of another race and physical description changed their narrative to pin it on another man is deplorable

[@leddbedd4812]

Thanks for finally getting around to this case. As per usual, great breakdown of this topic. Keep up the good work!

[@dcnative1618]

When they covered this on the Behavior Panel many people unsubscribed. The interrogation was terrible. It makes me wonder if LE sometimes have planted child porn and drugs on "persons of interest " to wrap a case up.

[@dogcat2994]

Thank u for using your logical mind for the good of others, to help other people in your work as a doctor. Thank you for these videos as well, they are brilliant!

[@woodywoodlstein9519]

He’s not a doctor. And the PhD is as weak as it gets. He goes along with the controversy because that’s the only way to get people to watch. Daniel goes on and on about how he wants to be heard. (But not under oath in court ) To this play dr and the paid supporters of Rapeclaw. Use common sense. And logic along with the facts of the case. If you are missing one of these three things you should probably just mind you’re own business. Because you don’t know wtf your talking about. And you are easily influenced By people like this pretend Dr. Who has his own clear agenda. (And it dies not include helping people or truth. ).

[@adminplazzy4110]

Janie Pearl Liggons did more than smoke weed that night. And Sherry Ellis literally stated, while giving her testimony at trial, that the man sitting at the defendants table (Holzclaw) was not the short black police officer that sexually assaulted her. It was like a TV moment, “if you see that man in this courtroom, please point him out.” She looked all around the room, she looked straight at Holtzclaw, then continued to look. She would indicate that the man who assaulted her was not in that courtroom. A really big problem I have with this whole case revolves around those 2 Mayberry “detectives.” IMO they’re BOTH inept. But even worse, the “forensic analyst” who worked in the crime lab, was the mother in law of the Co-lead Det Rocky Gregory. No one knew this det was working in cahoots with his family member mil, for roughly 20 years. This is and was staunchly against city policy. A journalist discovered the familial relationship after this trial ended. Elaine Taylor is the mother in law of the co-lead detective. That’s a serious conflict of interest. They were tag-teaming defendants for abt 20+/- years. There’s no telling how many people in Oklahoma are wrongfully incarcerated. Taylor just up and quit one day, she took all the computer components that contained records of the cases that she had worked on for all those years, with her, out of the crime lab. I kid you not. Even with a FOIA request, there’s no data on cases mom and son tag team worked together. This is serious corruption. But one last thing, the “short black cop” that Ellis was looking around the courtroom for, at trial… that is former Okc police officer Alexander Sinclair Edwards. He had the same route as Holtzclaw and he had the same make & model police vehicle. I could go on and on, but I’ll stop here. This 👆👆👆👆 info is enough to set anyone in their chair. This is such a travesty. But It’s not the only red dirt stain on Oklahoma. Not even close. Sorry for the novel.

[@kandicecousineau1348]

Is there anyway that he can get a appeal? A new trial? I watched a video with one of the woman he got 62 years for say the first time she had actually ever seen Holtzclaw was in the trial!! He received 62 years for her allegations! I think it was motivated by money for some of these woman. The only think I’m on the fence about is why he didn’t call in the traffic stop with the first woman who came forward. It could’ve just been a stupid mistake and he was thinking well if there is anything, I’ll turn the computer on and call it in but I don’t know. That’s the only one I’m not sure about. The female detective called random black women who he’s dealt with and just said have you ever been sexually assaulted by a police officer? Mean to say but some of these women live a life full of deceit and manipulation. Hearing the conversation with the one woman when she asked and she said yes seemed very fake. Most of the women couldn’t even describe him and one woman said at the end of her interview something along the lines of “well if he didn’t rape me or any of the others you guys will be able to find that out!” They decided not to add her to the list of women after that! But if she hadn’t said that she would’ve been another one! I think he deserves a new trial.

[@DDadams0]

THANK YOU for being one of the few sane people in the comments here. Daniel is INNOCENT of these accusations. Just based on what you point out that should be enough to get a retrial with a whole new investigation. Along with that - LOOK AT THE VICTIMS and look at him. He could get way easier, BETTER LOOKING ass than those nasty women. Please get real here guys just look at them.

[@MrAgaeg]

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[@bigcheese6794]

​@@DDadams0 You are truly a 👿. As long as the victims are 🖤 you pepol never see a victim. There's no Redeeming U pepol

[@louisagallagher8336]

​@@DDadams0 I totally agree. He is a good looking man. He definitely isn't choosing those type of women!! 😮

[@mikeoftheussenterprise4895]

In three years he was accused of excessive force nineteen times in three years.

[@stevexanny]

I've heard excessive force is deemed "anything more than putting the person in handcuffs". The female detective even said they get excessive force complaints all the time in that department and most are bull. It's not to crazy to think that the high crime area that he patrolled didn't like cops and would file a excessive force complaint whenever they could. And was he ever investigated and reprimanded for any of these accusations? Sounds a lot less damning when you look at it as a whole.

[@BrianChristopher-j9v]

​@@stevexannybecause he's innocent. He had a couple of crazy bosses and jealous colleagues.

[@stevexanny]

Crazy is a mischaracterization. They weren't crazy, they were corrupt@@BrianChristopher-j9v

[@chilley666]

@@stevexannyyou can not trust the police to investigate themselves. Having said that he is guilty as hell 263 years is kinda strong but I believe if police break the law they should get the harshest punishment.

[@janz3627]

The man is guilty as sin. The first woman had no reason whatsoever to make a false claim. Her license was suspended for 30 years and he didn’t at least give her a ticket? If he did it once, I guarantee he did it way more than once. Probably not all that accused him because they wanted money and revenge, but those were weeded out. You can tell by what the women said Daniel said and the way he said it. That wasn’t made up. He’s 100% guilty.

[@sierram5458]

Jesus. I didn't even know her license was suspended. It was sketchy enough he was off duty with his system off and pulled her over anyway. He said he smelled alcohol and saw multiple prescription bottles but sent her on her way after questioning and searching her for 20 mins? He didn't even do any sobriety tests so why pull her over? Why couldn't he just radio another colleague and report it? It makes no sense.

[@brandonf.8360]

He basically set himself up by his own actions. I think there was embellishments and a hint of railroading. However, when power corrupts, it does it absolutely.

[@Andrewbert109]

Yeah I know when I was in 7th grade I was picked to be a hall monitor and I didn't have any real authority but I told people that I did. I do not recognize the person I see in the mirror.

[@chad3232132]

@@Andrewbert109 Back in my college years I worked private security. I was amazed at how much deference many people will give to *anyone* with a badge. I would wear a security uniform and badge that clearly indicated security guard, NOT police officer. And yet a shocking % of people I came across genuinely seemed to believe I was a cop. I was always very cautious about overstepping my bounds (impersonating a police is a serious offense), but other security I worked with/knew did overstep their authority.

[@Andrewbert109]

@@chad3232132 I was 12 and wore and orange sash that I couldn't figure out how to put on correctly

[@bobjones4469]

Indeed, the justice system is corrupt, there's no way someone should have been convicted with the ass evidence they had against him.

[@danielghosn6529]

Turning off the computer in a police cruiser is a big red flag. Yes he set himself up.

[@voidcanary4180]

Your coverage is ALWAYS the best!!!! I've heard of this case, and it's always been presented like he was definitely guilty. I'm glad the Dr covers it, because he is one of the very few I trust for an unbiased opinion.

[@davel7014]

The police corruption in this case was beyond the pale. Yeah, Daniel might have done some things, but he was literally railroaded into prison.

[@WesgVick]

Definitely I think.

[@tobyray8700]

I completely agree. This case stinks from the get-go.

[@juanguerra5031]

OK what are the things he did kinda like sexualy assault these women then he's guilty hello !

[@YourPoint1981]

He sexually assaulted at least one woman. That alone should be a long prison sentence.

[@tobyray8700]

@@YourPoint1981 and what physical evidence do you possess to show this?

[@H.Cheng281]

Thanks!

[@leylamoody3177]

Very informative, Dr. Grande! Excellent analysis! ❤️

[@tankthearc9875]

he forgot the gps evidence

[@hightimecrime]

Thank you for another great video as always Dr. Grande! Really appreciated the great analysis on this one.

[@myselfasevan]

Omg I’ve asked you for this one like 10 times, so happy to finally see it!

[@gdc6153]

See 263 years and no appeals

[@PunishedRalph]

I always thought he was guilty, until I watched the Matt Orchard documentary on the case. Now I genuinely have no clue as to whether he did it or not, I am truly on the fence, but what I can at for certain is that there is enough reasonable doubt to make his prosecution dubious. I do not believe he should be in jail, and that at minimum there should be a retrial.

[@stevexanny]

Its funny cause the Matt Orchard doc doesn't even cover all the extra info about this case, the "Bates Investigates" podcast goes in great detail about each witness

[@jkephart4624]

@@stevexanny thank you. Gonna watch it now.

[@moxievintage1390]

Love this. This case has bothered me for years! Good to see you Doc! 👀🌵

[@lisaa.4667]

Your analogy at the end (shotgun vs laser) is spot on, Dr. Grande. They were throwing mud at the wall to see if some of it would stick. He should have kept silent and obtained perhaps a better attorney as soon as they started questioning him.

[@tankthearc9875]

all gps evidence matched what the victims had said. it was not mentioned here

[@gang3576]

This guy is a rapist himself for defending one.

[@gang3576]

Cops do this all day to the black community but no one bats an eye but soon as one rapist cop gets investigated oh shut up and get a lawyer😂 bunch of rapist sympathizers

[@Wilbur-mj3fq]

​@@tankthearc9875 no it was not mentioned. Because he mentioned that all locations DID NOT match the "victim" testimonies. Because it's true they did not...

[@davidkirkham3844]

@@tankthearc9875 and cops can’t lie and give them information about where he was at? I have proof the cops in this state will coach people. Cops in this state are absolutely willing to lie. There’s a reason why this joke of a state is almost always number 1 in incarceration… on… the… planet…

[@audralynn7454]

This is why it's so much easier to just do your job, follow the rules and keep your nose clean. If you are always by the book, it's harder to throw the book at you 😉

[@ChristinaTodd1970]

Law enforcement needs to do it better and cleaner than civilians.

[@audralynn7454]

@Nuby any cops who is angry at another cop for following the rules and is willing to put them in harm's way because of it shouldn't be a cop, they're the reason we have problems. My opinion of course.

[@ayejay4028]

Tell that to people who do decades in prison and then are exonerated

[@modernfckinman]

@Nuby You're right. It's a completely corrupt organization. In my opinion, what you're describing is exactly the reason why it's not just a "few bad apples". It's the whole system that's corrupt. The good cops who call out the moral and legal corruption are booted out of the force. We have many examples of that.

[@janelleleslie3236]

It never ceases to amaze me how people in this case can see all of the corruption and lies and then decide, well I think he may have done some of it. It's bizarre. Are they trying to sound fair?

[@debrabunger9302]

The first time he turned off the computer against policy he should have gotten a warning. The second time he should have been fired. He might not be spending his life in prison.

[@Jimmy911ism]

He only turned it off at the end of each shift. Unfortunately, that includes the after hours stop that led to the railroading 'investigation'. He forgot to turn it back on.

[@iamv482]

@@Jimmy911ism He didn't forget to turn it on, he didn't want to turn it back on to do his dirty deed. But he got caught when he pull the grandmother over right across the street with a building that had surveillance cameras on it. And that is how he got caught. When it comes to building surveillance cameras they can see everything on that footage. They just don't want the public to see it.

[@Jimmy911ism]

@@iamv482 What he should have done was either mind his own business or turn it back on. This was the ONLY time he turned it off before a stop. Did you know that? 'He turned his computer off before he stopped her'... 'he routinely turned his computer off' [at the end of his shift, the same as everybody else]. Those two statements, deliberately presented out of context, is why everyone thought he was guilty at first, me included.

[@98MAzdaMilleniaS]

He probably shut it off because he was on his way home and witnessed what he thought was a DUI. If there was no record of it then it eliminated liability.

[@Flipstat24]

The security video does not show anything at all. Look it up .

[@christiannusser9976]

I agree. While Holtzclaw may have committed a few of those crimes the investigation was a shame. Nothing was proven ´beyond a reasonable doubt´. I don´t like his behavior but he deserves a proper investigation and a fair trial.

[@foundationalstatesmen]

Like in the COSBY CASE?

[@s.fleming2441]

I would like to see Grande cover Vince Lee. a man who beheaded a Canadian man on a bus, but now lives in free society after just a few years in jail. His new name is William Baker and he lives in my city and I knew the man he beheaded. I would be very curious of the Doctors assessment on this one

[@MyEnemy]

That guy is free? Good grief!

[@nixonsprguy3629]

Isn't he the greyhound killer?

[@bitteralmonds666]

@@nixonsprguy3629 Yes🧐🤔

[@nixonsprguy3629]

@@bitteralmonds666 hope he's taking his meds now :/

[@Charlotte66666]

@@MyEnemy hey!

[@Hillykarma]

I encourage all people interested in this case to look at the blog of Brian Bates, an activist and private investigator that worked on Holtzclaws defense. Mr Bates is known for his stances against police officers, and he said if he ever believed Daniel to be guilty, he would have left the defense, but he never did that. There is so much about this case that stinks to high heaven but the narrative is too powerful and the prosecution pulled out every dirty trick possible to sway public opinion irrespective of exculpatory evidence.

[@bryceharper446]

The way Daniel cried at his trial. I think it was GET THE COP!

[@earthling148]

I will try to research this lawyers defense. It's so nice to hear another human with logic and open minded !

[@Hillykarma]

@@earthling148 Truth may be an unattainable ideal but I believe we must strive for it, especially when people's freedom is on the line. It is an unfortunate fact that police have been unfairly prosecuted in recent times, and there are many factors to suggest the prosecutors weaponized anti police sentiment to slap together a case. I will say, some of Holtzclaws behaviors are questionable, and it's possible he didn't understand the gravity of shutting off your computer, or making contact to people who were the subjects of earlier on-the-job stops for private matters, but I don't think those things alone make a sex criminal of someone.

[@illegallystalked3119]

Yeah. But the fact he had a woman he pulled over while driving home, in back seat of his squad car with him in the back seat also, ....i got a real problem believing that was an innocent situation.

[@bobthompson4319]

ya when i first heard this story it was from the point of view of him being guilty. then when i heard all the clear facts I was like OMG WTF his defiantly innocent. and the detectives even made some of the "victims" feel like they where going to have some problems with staying out of jail if they didn't say what they wanted.

[@FiremarshalM1]

An accuser recanted last year. "Cash induced memory" is a great phrase, nicely worded

[@greenemic]

😂 So until that happens ... he rots 🤷‍♂️

[@showmevids1984]

To be honest your dealing with very disoriented, erratic and vulnerable women - precisely why Daniel holtzclaw chose them

[@future_teknokrat7585]

​@@showmevids1984 Bingo. Those women are described as "at risk,"....the perfect target.

[@jacquelinem2873]

Coincidentally and against policy, he turned off computer, radio, gps, did not log stop… bad luck, just then he was accused by a lady who was not given a ticket or arrested, and underwent medical evidence extraction procedure. Is the moral here, don’t break department policy and don’t put yourself at greater risk. He was very deceptive during interview, and lied about sex with his girlfriend. He said, she said… don’t put yourself at risk for accusations, even knowing there are, and maybe motives for false accusations. Don’t put a target on your back… but all the research I’ve done, very likely shows he is guilty of some of the accused crimes.

[@christopherg9806]

When I saw a documentary on this case, the investigators' statements sounded like they started with the conclusion and created evidence to support it. The female detective, in addition to sounding dumb, seemed to be guided by feelings and suspicions, rather than facts. Could he have assaulted one of those victims? Possibly, but the prosecution's terrible investigative practices poisoned the pot, and I would never be able to find him guilty beyond a (very) reasonable doubt. He should be freed immediately.

[@christopherg9806]

@@polarbearsrus6980 So what about all the people they dredged up who turned out to be lying? What about saying that it was a blonde haired guy? What about another complainant saying they were assaulted by a black guy? Just saying he's guilty is not the same as offering evidence.

[@jodi2462]

@@christopherg9806 exactly!!!

[@ashndj23]

@@polarbearsrus6980 no one, and I mean no one, would enjoy those nasty looking women…sorry.

[@ashndj23]

@@polarbearsrus6980 your the only one that mentioned race, racist

[@yeenbean3318]

They screwed this case up so much it's almost impossible to tell if he actually did anything in reality. It makes me wonder if the investigators had some kind of grudge against Daniel, but there's no way to tell that specifically for sure from an outsider perspective. I'm not saying he was completely innocent, but I wonder if his reckless behavior maybe made his coworkers dislike him. In my biased perspective, I'd think he was probably a bad person, but even with that bias I don't think this punishment was justified.

[@X56th_SFS]

Stop it lol. Who are you, his crazy sister?

[@chad3232132]

I tend to think Holtzclaw probably committed some of the assaults, while others were made up, and others did happen but were committed by other cops. Holtzclaw was a convenient fall guy to take the blame for ALL the accusations.

[@lostandfound5145]

@@X56th_SFS why can’t she give her opinion in the comment section? That’s where opinions are given. Her opinion was perfectly rational. Maybe your opinion that she should stop having an opinion is the opinion that needs censoring

[@X56th_SFS]

@@lostandfound5145 rational? Her notion that literally everyone is against him and that's why he got arrested and convicted?

[@ashndj23]

@@X56th_SFS your wearing a mask in your profile pic…that’s all we need to know right there .

[@ilannknochen]

Thanks for the analysis. I was hoping for this one

[@chrissycupcakes2448]

I'm always on the fence. If he had followed the rules he wouldn't have been in this situation. Its a troubling case.

[@charlesgerety1403]

But being incompetent doesn't justify 260 years in prison

[@zealanddublin9047]

@@charlesgerety1403 history of incompetence.....and why was he switching off his equipment and not reporting these stops?? There is/was a reason, and Daniel is in prison for those reasons now.

[@katydiditshedid]

@@zealanddublin9047 He was not "switching off his computer." He called in all of his stops except the after-hours stop that started this whole investigation. There is a lot of misinformation about this case. If you listen to podcasts please check out, "Bates Investigates."

[@bobpoop6025]

he didn't follow rules once. therefore he deserves 260 years in prison.

[@mohsenslim4395]

I really dont think he was alone in his shifts

[@maxwellmc9734]

Brilliant 👍 thanks for covering such a case 💯

[@QuatMan]

You forgot to mention that the first accuser did not describe him correctly, yet Daniel HIMSELF told the detectives that he had stopped and searched her.

[@pistolpete8231]

Just because he stopped her doesn't mean he abused her. What's your point exactly?? This is an assault case. Not a "who stopped who" case.

[@QuatMan]

@@pistolpete8231 He mentioned that someone gave the wrong description of him. I was reminding him that even the first victim described him incorrectly, as a short blond guy with acne scars. However, Holzclaw verified that he had stopped her.

[@yrudonking]

@@QuatMan its probably because they were lying

[@QuatMan]

@@yrudonking Or, like the first victim who also saw him differently, but whom he verified he had stopped, the other lady who described him incorectly also perceived him differently.

[@lostconciousness4255]

these people were career criminals, they were probably stopped... A LOT.

[@The-Portland-Daily-Blink]

This was really interesting. And very informative. I had always been led to believe that he was guilty as sin, but I'd never considered the underlying factors. Again, an excellent analysis, Dr. Grande. I actually learned a lot...

[@andrewdakus1766]

There's a great podcast called "bates investigates" made by a private detective on his defense team and it's very compelling

[@yamnjam]

He is guilty. Watch the interview of the victims, esp the grandma with zero credibility issues, the one who went to the cops right away. Dr Grande conveniently leaves her out. This cop 100% assaulted her and deserves prison just for that.

[@maestroofamore8948]

Yes,@@yamnjam!

[@HoltzclawTrial]

@@polarbearsrus6980 "found guilty twice" What are you even talking about? Do you even realize that every person who has been exonerated (thousands) were first found guilty by a court and most were denied all their initial appeals. Would you make that same statement to all the men and women who have been exonerated?

[@HoltzclawTrial]

@@yamnjam The Dr. didn't leave her out at all. In fact, he pointed out her story didn't match the forensic evidence.

[@bitteralmonds666]

This guy screwed himself over for doing illegal/unapproved stops.

[@jellybean7283]

@Ann-Marie Paliukenas because he was up to no good obviously

[@Emolga6274]

@Ann-Marie Paliukenas cuz he wanted to rape them

[@MeganVictoriaKearns]

He literally went, uninvited and unannounced, to the home of a woman he had pulled over. My best friend's husband and my Dad's brother are cops. It would never even occur to either of them to randomly show up at the home of a citizen they'd recently encountered in a traffic stop while they were on duty. Like seriously what is wrong with him? I know a lot about this case. The reason Daniel gave for going to that woman's residence was that he was checking up on her and seeing if she was doing ok, because when he stopped her vehicle he ran her license and she had a criminal history. And he was worried about her sobriety. I don't know what he did or didn't do but going to her home is the most ridiculous, weird thing to do and then he made it 100× worse with the dumbest bullshit story ever about why he went there. If the case intrigues you, I encourage you to watch his initial no-lawyer interview with detectives. Now I'm all for innocent until proven guilty and I know people sometimes say dumb shit when they're acutely stressed, but watch the video. It's really, like REALLY, incriminating of him. In my opinion.

[@holdencawffle626]

@@MeganVictoriaKearns Meagan....you are spot on. Daniel was 100% up to no good. Daniel is where he belongs. He can rot in prison

[@CartoonSlug]

@@holdencawffle626 I'm glad you're not in charge of law and order in the U.S.

[@Cyber_Kati_6744]

Dr. Grande!! 👏👏👏👏👏 Tysvm for your videos! There are absolutely magnificent!! 👏👏👏👏👏

[@exapplerrelppaxe7952]

Excellent analysis. He should have been brought up on charges for whatever you call trying to pick up women while they were being detained by police. But because he was so unprofessional in general he opened himself up to being scapegoated on a grand scale. If you're in law enforcement, follow the damn law.

[@iamv482]

Exactly and don't Facebook or go by a woman house uninvited in your own personal vehicle being a creep. He knew what he was doing and that is why his appeal has been denied. If he had never pulled alongside the grandmother he probably wouldn't be in prison. But no he had the 2am can't help it, and should had went home to his now ex-girlfriend. Even his ex-girlfriend wouldn't lie for him when detective Kim Davis called her asking question about did they have fill in the blanks. No telling what this creep did when he let the grandmother go. And this was not all of the women this creep came in contact with, they just never came forward.

[@sweet_t811]

Thank you for covering this case! I can't say for sure whether he is guilty or not but I do know for a fact that he does not look like a short, blonde black male.

[@elanahammer1076]

From my studies I truly believe that people are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Yet, many times the ability to see objectively in any criminal case can be hampered by individuals who have their ego involved. When an individuals ego gets involved regardless of who it is, it can cloud critical thinking skills. The prosecution literally being in bed with the judge is not only problematic but it sends a message throughout the criminal justice process that it is tainted. Thank you Dr. Grande for the thought provoking case study today.🤔❤🇺🇸

[@squishiehunter693]

In the US its guilty til proven innocent.

[@breathnstop]

Most citizens, especially black citizens, do not want to go public about police misconduct because they will be terrorized and stalked the rest of their life by other cops. It's obvious in this case that Daniel's colleagues were only too eager to destroy his life. Weird case, normally he would have been protected behind the blue wall.

[@justintime1343]

Holtzclaw destroyed his own life - nobody did it for him.

[@dustincaldwell2354]

I haven’t looked into this case much since it happened, but it always stuck in the back of my mind. Something simply seemed off. I have to say, your analysis makes a lot of since. Your conclusion, even more.

[@tankthearc9875]

but he forgot the gps evidence that matched the victims stories to a t.

[@ashndj23]

@@tankthearc9875 they actually didn’t. Some of his “accusers” didn’t even correctly identify him 😂. Go review the case.

[@tankthearc9875]

@@ashndj23 even if it was only 2 is a big crime and you and i would do 20 years, also a lot more evidence then ppl think , if seen the case . jury found him guitly and it was mostly a wht one..

[@tankthearc9875]

@@ashndj23 you cant have it both ways fool, you cant say liberals let everyone free , and conservatives lock up criminals. then say, well liberals locked him up, lol you ppl are a joke

[@ashndj23]

@@tankthearc9875 wtf my dude. Lmaooo. You on crack bro? Your comment LITERALLY makes no sense.

[@RoxanneCarcerano-LeFevre]

I believe Dr. Grande is spot on with his analysis of this case. Daniel was an over aggressive cop with something to hid, but these women have a lot of holes in their stories.

[@aidanandtyler5138]

Completely agree with this. The case was flimsy on the one hand, but it is clear that Holtzclaw was certainly not an exceptional cop. Thanks Dr. Grande for the lucid and thorough analysis.

[@MsNooneinparticular]

If he's guilty of even one of these assaults, which he very likely is, he belongs where he's at. That said, it's very important that scientifically sound interrogation techniques are used in ALL investigations, not just when cops are involved but when poor, minority or intellectually impaired suspects are being questioned. They're the most likely to get caught up in shoddy interrogations & false accusation cases. (See: West Memphis Three, Central Park Five).

[@brandonmarcos5422]

Yes he does belong in prison if he committed even one assault but not for 200 years

[@johns3927]

Nah he's not guilty of even 1.

[@bobjones4469]

That's a TERRIBLE take. First of all, they didn't have enough evidence to convict him of a single one. There was so much BS it called the entire thing into question. Second, life in prison for a single sexual assault? Are you freaking kidding me? Lastly, it ABSOLUTELY matters that he gets convicted for the crimes he ACTUALLY committed even if the end sentence were to be the same. There is a difference between being convicted for 1 crime vs 100, even if both result in a life sentence; it shows that our justice system actually freaking works and ain't half-ased, for one thing. His reputation, is another.

[@johnhawthorn5393]

stupid take. He's not guilty of even one of them

[@lostandfound5145]

@@bobjones4469 if he was guilty of one single incident of using his power as a police officer to force a woman into oral sex with the threat of jail he would absolutely belong in jail for life. That’s a dangerous person. People like that don’t stop being evil.

[@indigenouspodcast2257]

Another excellent video! I was also surprised by the amount of accusers and was curious on the credibility of each incident. Thanks for going into detail with this!

[@forgottenquill7063]

Another "excellent" video? Really? This 15-minute crapfest doesn't even come close to covering ANYTHING in detail. Matt Orchard did a 2-hour DEEP DIVE into this tragedy; THAT is excellence. This crap was spit out on his lunch break. Such an effortless waste.

[@vice2versa]

@Forgotten Quill. Lol yeah i used to think Dr Grande had excellent detailed videos but now im strating to think he just craps out content now. I first started noticing this when that astroworld travis scott incident happened.

[@indigenouspodcast2257]

@@forgottenquill7063 well, that’s your opinion. I happen to enjoy his videos. I’ll check out the other guy you mentioned but not everyone has so much time to watch a two hour video right after it’s release.

[@maryjohnson7425]

The alleged victims had no credibility that's why they were targeted in the first place, The accusers were prostitutes and drug users and committed numerous crimes and Daniel's sick butt used this to further victimize them his fellow officers knew this was the reason Daniel wanted to work without a partner.

[@internetperson9121]

I don't know if he's guilty or not, but the investigators methods were super shady and unsound. Every time I hear about the way they gathered evidence for this case I find it infuriating.

[@Len_M.]

He isn’t. They railroaded him bad.

[@margaretr5701]

All accusations aside, guilty of some, or not, I can't understand the length of the sentence he was given!

[@DMS20231]

I think you’ve nailed this. He was guilty of something, maybe just being inappropriate. I do not think he was guilty of everything they convicted him of. That said, a cop who turns off his camera is a dirty cop, and we need to assume that anything that happens off camera should be taken in the worst possible light of the cop.

[@12227UserName]

I remember when this came about, I found the whole thing extremely suspicious. Many of the accusers were found unreliable, if not outright lying. If I remember correctly, I believe a few of the accusers later came out and said they were pressured to give false stories, with some of them even stating that they don't believe the guy should have been locked up, and later asking for a petition in regards toward his release. I feel as though he was either setup or a fall guy. As this video states, he may have been guilty of some of the crimes, but I doubt to the degree that he was accused of. The sentence he received was insane. While I'm all in favor of our system, I don't always trust it. Particularly when it comes to some prosecutors, judges with a bias or juries being pressured and/or biased. It's a good system, but not without its faults.

[@bgr5214]

He raped a 17yr old on duty and it was Substantiated. How is he not guilty in your opinion?

[@PInk77W1]

All it takes for an innocent man to go to prison for life is The DA tell a story that 12 jurors believe

[@justintime1343]

That's all it takes for a guilty man to go to prison for life.

[@stevexanny]

Nah all it takes is a bunch of people threatening to burn down a city and a politically motivated team of detectives, judges and jurors.

[@profphilbell2075]

@@justintime1343 in America and some third world dictatorships

[@justintime1343]

Accused criminals in 3rd world dictatorships would be lucky to be granted a trial by a jury of 12 of their peers.@@profphilbell2075

[@jackburton307]

How was this case not given a retrial!?

[@PInk77W1]

The judge was sleeping with the prosecution

[@commiehunter733]

Holtzclaw got railroaded bad.... this case makes no sense

[@sticksbass]

prob horrified of riots. malkin doesnt even seem to talk about this case anymore. its like nobody cares.

[@Wilbur-mj3fq]

​@@PInk77W1 isn't that grounds for retrial though??

[@PInk77W1]

@@Wilbur-mj3fq I’m no lawyer but I would think so

[@gerry2345]

I like this vid. Good insight & Great analysis.

[@wanderlustendumado5396]

19 complaints of excessive use of force...They had complaints of sexual battery from an officer before the final person came forward. A female who was assaulted by him went to the ER and made a police report, in 2013, however nothing was done. He ran the names of these people several times, and there were Facebook messages between him and one of his victims. Maybe he didn't ra*pe all of these women but he did some of them, as an officer of the law, and should be in jail for a long, long, long time.

[@beautifulbody_mind_soul6233]

FACTS

[@Nok112]

I totally believe he could have just been the fall-man they decided to make an example of. If he's innocent this is a total tragedy.

[@crazymimi6061]

In PA, where I live, prosecutors have over a 90% conviction rate. There's so many cases that really need to be looked into. Nobody's that good. It's almost impossible to get a conviction reversed, even if you have new evidence. If you're accused of something here, I suggest you make a deal and a plea bargain. Guilt or innocence doesn't seem to matter, but if you go to trial, more than likely you'd be found guilty, and spend allot of your life in prison. With a plea, you'll get out.

[@Nok112]

@@crazymimi6061 good lord that's terrifying. I'm in Texas...I THINK it's more fair than that but I really don't know. I think maybe he tried to hit on a 17 year old or something, things that are not okay but like...... not all of what they were trying to accuse him of. Freaking like 200 years. That is so wild. I feel like a lot of prosecutors just have to be sociopaths by nature.

[@izzyarland5304]

The punishment is ridiculous. He should have gotten five years tops.

[@izzyarland5304]

That's your opinion. There's zero evidence of rape.

[@504BlueDevil]

If he’s innocent it’s even funnier!

[@estrella5935]

Daniel is 1000% innocent!!!!

[@totalbullion5882]

How? He broke policy all the time according to him, regarding turning off his computer etc. Didn't call in that stop and took 15 minutes . Seemed un-bothered about such an outrageous accusation during the interrogation. Exchanged emails and phone numbers with victims and contacted some of them thru Facebook, not with any male subjects I might add. Violated his bond twice before the hearing serving 2 weeks in jail each time. There's a bunch of questionable testimonies but he's not innocent, no way.

[@whateverwhatever4026]

​​@@totalbullion5882You (and the accusers) can't even stay consistent. Was the stop 10 seconds or 15 minutes? Thats some wild difference. But the fact SHE changed her story multiple times and couldn't even identify or give a description if him. And neither could multiple other accusers says all it needs to. All you have is him forgetting policy. Which isn't a jailable offence. He's very clearly innocent, and the fact you don't see that, and aren't more worried about the cops trying to set him up with such a flimsy case says everything about you. If you hate cops, thats dumb, but at least the right ones, the ones lying to out away this one.

[@earthling148]

As much as I hate most cops, as soon as Dr. G started his intro I knew something was up. I hope this dude gets an appeal and better lawyer ( haven't finished segment ). Also his sentencing is b.s. !

[@maestroofamore8948]

His appeals have all been rejected by the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals and the Supreme Court declined to hear his case. His sentence is more than fair, although he doesn't deserve annual parole hearings.

[@SP-qo3pd]

This case was billed by the Oklahoma City PD as the "We're not racist!" case. They served this man up as if he were the sacrificial lamb for the OKC chapter of BLM. He may not have been the greatest guy, but what happened to him is tragic.

[@zealanddublin9047]

@@SP-qo3pd "He may not have been the greatest guy....." So how do you know what happened to him is tragic??

[@rorosanchez1538]

@@zealanddublin9047 it's easy to know what happened to him. He got a damn life sentence! More than 2 centuries (of course he'll never live to see release date) in prison is more than some murderers get. In my home state it's 25 yrs on a 1st degree murder case.

[@maestroofamore8948]

The abuse he inflicted on his victims is certainly tragic,@@SP-qo3pd.

[@Zaan1028]

1:40, I already don't want to proceed no matter what you want to claim, because no body cameras were mandated until late 2014, n I remember it was on the newspaper n everything.

[@ZYX84]

Hello Dr.Grand🧩e!! Very good to see and hear you this morning! Always a pleasant surprise… I’m glad that you’re here and I’m hoping you’re doing well! Welcome to my home.. 🌹

[@toma7747]

There was 100% reasonable doubt they railroaded him

[@foundationalstatesmen]

You mean LIKE COSBY?

[@TELEVISIONARCHIVES]

He wasn't railroaded. He was pulling people over after he was off duty and turning off his GPS and also not calling it in. Why in the world would he do something like that

[@chriscampbell4857]

@@TELEVISIONARCHIVES he only did that once because someone was driving dangerously, get a clue please

[@wrmlm37]

I'm so glad you chose to cover this. I saw his initial interrogation and I did not believe he was guilty. I thought this was a horrific miscarriage of justice. He looked absolutely devastated, and I believed that was a true reaction. I didn't realize how many were on his side. I wish he never turned his computer off. I don't know if this was a primary reason for so many actually being against Daniel. I hope he gets a review of his case.

[@maestroofamore8948]

Of course it was a "true reaction"! He never expected his carefully-chosen victims to speak up or be believed, and never anticipated that he'd be held accountable for his crimes. Thank God for the courage of Jannie Ligons, in bringing him to justice.

[@HoltzclawTrial]

@@maestroofamore8948 "Carefully chosen victims." The police literally jumped all over this case with the very first allegation. Which makes your assertion ludicrous.

[@maestroofamore8948]

@@HoltzclawTrialcontinues lying: *"The police jumped all over this case with the very first allegation."* They certainly SHOULD have jumped all over this case with the very first allegation, but unfortunately they postponed investigating until after the SECOND allegation, brought forth by victim Jannie Ligons. Better late than never, though.

[@dewilew2137]

@@HoltzclawTrial that’s a lie. The first complaint came in a full year before Jamie, and nothing was done. It wasn’t until after Jamie made her complaint, that the sex crimes detectives remembered the first accusation, and reviewed it. Stop lying.

[@shwah8299]

Why do conservatives love rapists?

[@AliValentine143]

Very interesting. I've always had questions in this case.

[@thewatchcommander7253]

Thank you so much for the breakdown. This case is riddled w/ controversy that I was hoping to understand more clearly and you explained it brilliantly.

[@JoeHammond-st4pq]

Great points Dr Grande

[@Blank-41]

I was always torn on this I feel like his trial wasn't fair.

[@bryceharper446]

I actually think he didn’t do it

[@Andreamom001]

Yes, I am torn, too. It’s difficult for me to believe he did nothing, but I think the police exaggerated the issue with their botched investigation, and it’s possible he didn’t do anything.

[@jamesgreenldn]

So what about all the women that reported on him and testified against him in the trial?

[@TheSleepReaper]

@@jamesgreenldn you mean those criminals? What about them?

[@Blank-41]

@@jamesgreenldn The ones who changed their stories multiple times?

[@keithromano3157]

love how we point out of victims can be discredited based on their bank account, yet - a pattern of behavior of violence and liying on record (shutting down his computer) he messed up too many time thinking the police would back him up... they did not and he went to jail- facts

[@maryjohnson7425]

Police can kill an unarmed black person on camera and be declared justified and they will say he was doing his job with their union behind them 100%. Not one of Daniel's fellow officers or the union helped him therefore I'm 100% sure Daniel is 100% guilty.

[@roqbar8764]

@@maryjohnson7425 Ppl will generally defend a murderer before a sexual predator.

[@etuboldon]

Exactly. Even the police union wouldn't touch him with a 263 ft ( get it, get it?? lol) pole.

[@lulusperspective269]

Been an EMT first responder for 5 years now. I think with this one, there was so much shady business by the police department that I’m not sure whether or not he is actually guilty of any of charges. Regardless, I am 100% certain that there is no way that he was guilty of every charge.

[@zealanddublin9047]

How can you be "100% certain"? Were you actually there?

[@lulusperspective269]

@@zealanddublin9047 I don’t have to have been there to reasonably infer innocence from a substantial lack of evidence for a number of the charges, as Dr. Grande pointed out in the video. Many of the allegations were not credible at all. He even pointed out that some people fabricated allegations after he was already on administrative leave.

[@maestroofamore8948]

Well Lulu, he wasn't convicted of every charge, so there you go.

[@lulusperspective269]

@@maestroofamore8948 That’s the point...

[@maestroofamore8948]

@@lulusperspective269 The point is that his jury weighed all the charges, convicted him of *18 FELONIES* and put him where he belongs.

[@shadow.banned]

This case is a warning to all departments without bodycams. This can be you.

[@anabelleigh5745]

I used to be a dispatcher. Daniel told the investigators that he pulled Ligons over because he noticed her swerving. He saw an open container in her car and a bottle of pills. Still, he claims he didn't give her a field sobriety test. He says he was tired and wanted to go home. But then he admits he put her in the back of his squad car to "talk" to her. Guilty! No one pulls over a swerving vehicle late at night in a neighborhood known for drugs and prostitution without calling it in on the radio. Not only did he not alert dispatch, but he turned off his radio AND his computer. Guilty! Cops are routinely given protocols to follow to prevent accusations like rape. In the departments I worked for, a cop would be fired or seriously disciplined for not following such protocols. Typically, they only put you in the back of the car if you're under arrest or being detained, so his whole story fell apart in his face. The detectives got this one right, I think. Doctor Grande also was wrong about George Zimmerman and the Crumbley parents in the Michigan school shooter case.

[@Flamsterette]

Thanks for the upload during my September 2022 birthday long weekend! Birthday was on Saturday and I had a free Original Grand Slam breakfast at Denny's, then had Greek food and a pumpkin spice ice cream sandwich last night with the family. Now I can relax for my other birthday rewards.

[@browniehendricks3726]

Happy birthday 🎂

[@Bostongirl4eva]

Thank you for consistent content! Would love if you’d look into the recent Polk County, FL bust. Grady Judd’s news conference was epic. Busted a deputy sheriff, Disney employee and even someone on their honeymoon.

[@purpleslurple5149]

Judd is a legend!

[@TheBOG3]

I live in the county (Pasco) west of Polk county. Everybody loves Grady Judd. He's very honest.

[@moecuspocus]

Grady Judd is a legend

[@lisaalane7694]

That news conference was epic. I love a good story and have started watching his older press conferences

[@kristenjustkristen9462]

I respect Grady Judd but I think he's in love with the sound of his own voice lol. Man gives a 2hr lecture on the most minimal of offenses.

[@SuperPlanet77]

if he is innocent, what do you think the police department's motive was to frame him? that's what has my curiosity. it's just odd for the department to have it in for one officer so much

[@bobojenkins2442]

There is no motive. He’s guilty as sin

[@SuperPlanet77]

@@bobojenkins2442 yeah. that's what i am leaning towards thinking

[@MyKakasa]

@@SuperPlanet77 He is where he belongs

[@MamaPinks]

@DrGrande GREAT review of this case! I 100% agree with your analysis!

[@gloriaelmore9092]

Great video. I enjoyed your comments on the trash outside the patrol car, lol! Excellent analysis. Thanks!

[@terrystokes2948]

Great Case! I'm looking forward to your assessment of this one.

[@KimberlyLetsGo]

I think this case smells of corruption. But from Holtzclaw, the police department and the prosecutor. Why hasn't his lawyer filed an appeal? There's more than enough here to do so. Also, why such a long sentence and no parol? Fishy, I tell ya.

[@alb5801]

He already went up for parole this year ( just 7 yrs after conviction I believe) and is eligible again in 2023.

[@charlesgerety1403]

The prosecutors are like sharks. When they see blood they go full overboard 150% and think that means they are doing their job great

[@katydiditshedid]

@@alb5801 Since he was convicted on 18 counts he will periodically come up for parole, as he is eligible, on each individual count. if he was granted parole it would only relate to that single count. He wouldn't actually be paroled from prison.

[@lkmcle5409]

Yeah.. even murders get a lesser sentence.. WHY 263 YEARS.. SOUNDS VERY STRANGE.. I even think serial killers get like 40 to life.. IF THER EVER WAS A TIME FOR SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING FOR THIS GUY, NOW WOULD BE THAT TIME!!!! EVEN SEXUAL MISCONDUCT AT LEAST OR BEING FIRED OR SOMETHING .. why would a department bring in known PROSTITUTES and call them at home on thier CELL PHONE and ask them or drive them to THE POLICE STATION and buy them food and probably give them money who knows,, come in for a statement . WE HAVE TO WONDER ABOUT ANY OTHER INMATES THERE THAT DIDN'T GET A FAIR TRIAL AND ARE STILL IN PRISON,,, NON VIOLENT OFFENDERS...

[@commiehunter733]

@@lkmcle5409 exactly 💯... 260 years? With no DNA? Sounds like a cover up for another cop

[@zenawarrior7442]

Sounds like a framing although turning his computer off is wrong. Sometimes courts already decide who's guilty before you arrive. Great pts always, thanks Dr G😊💖💖

[@kenn1936]

He turned off his computer because he was on his way home and had finished his shift. What he did wrong was - not turn it back on when he saw the assumed drunk driver. or another way to look at it - he should have radioed it in for another officer to stop her -since he was off duty. He made a great deal of mistakes where it comes to rules, but I doubt the evidence put forward by tweedle dee and tweedle dumb!! Especially the woman investigator tweedle dumb!!!

[@cottontails9003]

Hello my friend, did you get the message that I'm not pregnant, Steve was really upset. I guess I am too but I wanted an 18months age gap. Sending love and many hugs too you and your mum. 😢😜❤💙💚💖✉🌷🌷🌷🎇

[@chgosatrap]

that is automatically guilty to me

[@chad3232132]

I think he probably committed some of the crimes, but the way some potential victims described a different officer makes me think there may have been multiple officers engaged in this sort of behavior, with Holtzclaw taking the blame for all of them.

[@MooseGuy1]

@@cottontails9003 You think Steve's upset? I've been working my...ah...something off to get you pregnant. I guess it's back to the drawing board for us.

[@debbybolen]

Thank you Dr Grande for this well done analysis. I always enjoy your commentaries. Very thought provoking. I feel this was such an injustice I no longer trust neither law enforcement nor the judicial system. The sentencing for this injustice is startling. I have watched too much of the evidence on this farce. the "interrogations" were absurd. the cops "interrogating" were telling these women what to say. a couple of the women described different men.

[@HeavyProfessor]

Fantastic report

[@rsr4099]

So Much Reasonable Doubt in this case. It's insane he was found guilty I completely agree with Dr Grande.

[@angelastreeter2734]

They're working hard to get him freed. Hopefully justice will be served.

[@muffdiver240]

Apparently the jury found reasonable doubt in 18 of the 36 charges, and NO reasonable doubt in 18 of 36 charges. Appellate courts and SCOTUS concur. Justice HAS therefore been served.

[@craighutchinson6856]

@@angelastreeter2734 if justice hasn't already been served. To be clear I believe justice wasn't served and that gross injustice was perpetrated upon an innocent officer who was only guilty of bad judgement calls but no sexual assaults likely occured. God and Daniel and the "victims" may be the only ones that know the truth. My humble option Regardless of whether he was guilty of any criminal offenses it is absolutely my belief that he was innocent on nearly all if not all of the charges. Further if ever there should be a case thrown out as a mistrial this case seems to me to be one of the most likely to be thrown out if justice is to be served.

[@bobojenkins2442]

There is zero reasonable doubt. What’s wrong with you people? The evidence is overwhelming. The rapist loser will die in jail. End of story

[@dewilew2137]

@@angelastreeter2734 you’re insane.

[@trevorbevan587]

Thank you Todd. I value your analysis of this disturbing case against Danial. I remember the trial and the shock of disbelief on Daniel's face when he was convicted. I was troubled by the verdicts and the subsequent sentencing which is inhuman in the extreme. As far as the investigation by the Police was concerned, to approach possible witness against whom offences may have been committed with details of the Police Officer is asking for trouble and quite obviously can lead to lies for cash. Keep up the good work Todd. Your dry humour and careful analysis are a rare treasure.

[@muscleboundmovers9446]

Great work Dr. Grand! Your unbiased research brought new insight into this tragedy across the board for everyone involved at every level. You uncovered things that the local investigators never mentioned, especially about the judge who resigned but was recently exonerated for sexual misconduct charges. Your analysis that Holtzclaw became a sloppy and clumsy police officer that was hated by his own peers who later developed a vendetta against him, was spot on. You are also spot on when you mentioned that the timing of this entire ordeal was a sign of the times back then.

[@chad3232132]

I actually think many of these crimes happened, but were committed by different officers other than Holtzclaw. He was a convenient fall guy to take the blame for all of them.

[@muscleboundmovers9446]

I agree Chad. Most of these case outcomes are meant to teach a mean lesson and are designed to remain in civil case law records forever.

[@katydiditshedid]

@@chad3232132 I think Terri Morris' allegation may be true, but they got her to change the location so they soo they could use GPS from a traffic stop three weeks earlier to be able to pin the allegation on Holtzclaw. Morris is a mentally ill addict who was manipulated and treated horribly by OCPD. If they couldn't get her to become a part of the case they wouldn’t have been able to charge Holtzclaw. The entire thing would have fallen apart. He was found not guilty on all counts for Terri Morris.

[@kitchenskills5427]

I watched his interview and he answered every question so casually and convincingly. He is either the greatest actor of this century or he is a sociopath, if guilty. I feel like the prosecutors overreached and the evidence is flimsy and some of the victim's statements are unreliable. He deserves another trial.

[@katydiditshedid]

The accusers dismissed their civil suit against Daniel Holtzclaw today.

[@Throatzillaaa]

Not exactly. The lawyers who represented them did.

[@katydiditshedid]

@@Throatzillaaa Yep. The same attorneys who said they would take it all the way to the SCOTUS if needed when all defendants except Holtzclaw were dismissed from the case.

[@HoltzclawTrial]

@@Throatzillaaa Same thing. They represent them. That's why you have lawyers.

[@jaxbutterfly9186]

Morning Dr. G, Well this one was as tricky & as full of holes as a polka dot shirt. Having been convicted myself of minor charges that were trumped up, I totally understand how the State (any State: California in my case)will get you if that's their goal for whatever reason. I literally did 5 yrs for possession of a small line of cocaine. It derailed my life forever really. Nice show today. Thanks Dr. G.

[@dcnative1618]

It's great LE can throw the book at you while Big Pharma kills millions with "medication" they know is poisonous. I hope things are looking up for you.

[@eldattackkrossa9886]

jeeeeez that's terrible :( hope you're doing better now tho

[@hey-tuesday]

I too was convicted of trumped up charges (5 felonies), and I am innocent of 4 of them. It’s derailed my entire life too. They were drug possession (they gave me distribution & manufacturing, etc) charges, I didn’t mean to hurt anyone.

[@SensualBrunette]

same here in florida :(

[@Emolga6274]

@@hey-tuesday liar

[@jeremiaht7063]

As a law enforcement officer of 18 years I can say the question “why would someone lie about this” makes 100% of experienced officers give an “are you kidding me?” Groan😩 … People lie all the time for no conceivable reason, and literally every officer knows this… If you turn back the clock, remember how body cameras were supposed to prove all these corrupt police complaints true? In reality they prove that more than 99% of complaints contain lies, you just never hear about it because most complaints don’t make it past the supervisor without the complainant finding out there is hard evidence they are lying. 18 years and I cannot count the lies I’ve heard about myself, but yet people just believe them and keep spreading the misinformation and believing it. The first time I heard the Daniel case, I wanted to hang him out to dry…. When I heard the rest of the story I was ashamed that I bought the liberal media’s portrayal… There is VERY CLEAR motive to lie about this, and we already know for a fact at least 62% lied to try to get lawsuit money. We also KNOW Janey LIED about at least part of her victim story. She claimed Daniel pulled up next to her at night with tinted windows and seeing she was a black woman pulled behind her and pulled her over… This was later proven to be impossible to tell she was a black woman at night with tinted windows… Just based on the experience I have had with people lying about me I highly suspect this is what happened Janey was highly upset when she went to her friend, she probably told the story and said “you aren’t supposed to do this sir” which she probably did say… seeing as just saying this won’t garner sympathy she probably expanded the story to a degree that she could justify being upset… I have had this happen numerous times, people don’t have a real complaint, and they don’t want to be mocked for complaining, so they expand the story I can’t guarantee this is what happened, but two things are sure. 1. There was very ample reason to lie 2. There was not enough evidence to convict

[@anabelleigh5745]

If you're a police officer, then you should also be suspicious of the sh*t Daniel did that night. Pulling someone over WITHOUT going out on the radio? That's a huge mistake, and it's against protocol. He also admitted to putting her in the back of his car, even though she wasn't under arrest and wasn't being detained. Another huge break in protocol. Those facts alone are enough to make me think he did it. No cop pulls over a driver swerving at 1 am without calling it out on the radio, especially if they're working in a poverty-stricken neighborhood known for drugs and prostitution. It's obvious he didn't want others to know where he was and what he was up to.