Danish Mask Study, COVID Vaccines, & Thanksgiving Messaging Fail (w/Dr. Vinay Prasad)

[@thegreatgarrett1]

What a fantastic, thoughtful, candid, open minded discussion. Welcome to Earth, what planet do you come from?

[@onetwothreeabc]

We Vulcans do this everyday except that we don't joke.

[@kennorthunder2428]

My thoughts exactly. (And I'm a conservative evangelical Christian) Wow! The wisdom between these guys was something that we should emulate.

[@ShimmyMD]

This discussion needs to have millions of Americans watching it

[@austincoast]

Who is the guest?

[@stephenss1840]

2 horrible people, must b gettg wel paid to lie.

[@desireesantos4250]

this was one of the best conversations i've listened to on a podcast in a really, really long time. please have dr. prasad on more, he's an amazing communicator and it was both a privilege + a pleasure to listen to his insights.

[@vanessajanik4623]

Dang these types of convos are so refreshing! I’m an alt middle conservative.. that’s a thing right? 😏 Seriously though I appreciate the nuance. The emphasis on free speech.. considering the science but also the individuals personal values & needs.. so important. Totally agree about the toxic consequences of social media. It’s just becoming more & more polarizing.

[@jaclynturnipseed4723]

I really love that you mention no one knows what’s right about covid and that’s something I felt for a while.

[@jac1161]

Well yes, because it was marxist man made, designed to kill, cause fear, and the 'great reset.' Look it up.

[@troy5007]

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[@jaclynturnipseed4723]

@@troy5007 ok

[@jaclynturnipseed4723]

@@jac1161 I am busy to look that up but that’s cool if that’s what you believe. We are all entitled to opinions.

[@n3roc]

Dr. V is the man. I love his calm, rational thoughts. Go VdoggMD!

[@kyleramsey8897]

My wife (physiologist) and I (microbiologist) listened to this cast last night...it was excellent. I loved the informed, intelligent and yet humble and balanced conversation. Keep bringing back Dr. Prasad.

[@jbean9657]

Going out of state from PA to upstate NY to see my aunt. The State of PA will require me to quarantine when I get home- fine. But they act like going somewhere that has had less cases since March than we have in a day is evil and wrong, but seeing my sister a county over in our own state, who lives in a hot spot, is a teacher, and has a toddler and a preschooler in daycare who live in two houses is totally fine, no restrictions. What. This is the issue. They're trying to regulate things in a blanket way that just can't be.

[@patty-cf7jj]

Same here. I don’t understand it. I’m traveling to a state that has a tiny fraction of the cases that we have in my home state yet I will be required to quarantine when I return. I do not have to quarantine when I arrive at the state I’m going to.

[@caturdaynight6399]

I really appreciate that you guys are discussing this so respectfully and intellectually. You make space for people to disagree even if you don't have a contrarian bias. Thanks for speaking up for everyone's free speech.

[@Leatherlass]

Came for the apolitical, important info- stayed for the bromance 🤣 Another great show 💚

[@BeingMeRV]

My two favorite doctors right now. High five men!

[@terjeoseberg990]

Because they just told you what you want to hear? What kind of masks did they use in the study? Shitty surgical masks, or an N95 or N100 masks?

[@Marg1312]

@@terjeoseberg990 aren’t the majority of us wearing “shitty surgical masks” and cloth masks though?

[@XHALE303]

@@Marg1312 Does it matter when there is no pandemic exept for a pandemic in mass psychosis?

[@Marg1312]

@@XHALE303 UwU

[@XHALE303]

@@Marg1312 UwU is proof of a pandemic or rational thinking or proof that using the PCR tests for a diagnosis, by non doctors is not against the law?

[@killingfiction4502]

I can’t tell you how much I appreciate this open dialogue. We need this! Thank you so much for keeping us informed and making us think for ourselves.

[@XHALE303]

You mean keeping you from thinking for yourself & do it for you: www.brighteon.com/ff6d8e07-00ef-42f9-a754-ab6d2d47a26b

[@gazmasonik2411]

@@XHALE303 Thanks was beginning to bang my head against door frame. Despair at the hope of witnessing independent critical thinking. Today. Its light hearted propaganda he doesn't believe what he says. Default position for anyone who gives "junk food for thought" as a way to remain on censored platform's 1950 to 65 the entire big tech billionaires and employees on Twitter or fact chuckers on FBiook would be jailed as communist collaborators. No exaggeration! Americans maybe too close to see it. Many people amazed how American president is silenced by Twitter or oldest newspaper banned from showing treason in public office. That's the main job of the fifth estate or A free press!! Unbelievable that people can be so distracted by repetition of lies. Slowly added to cultural norms... office of president has been degraded in 4 years. All by the press and mostly by television news. BBC is the same here channel 4 too. People listen to podcast talk radio but there's no great journalism now. Except alternatives like Richard d hall richplanet.com, He showed the Mcannes knew Madeline was dead before making missing persons call By hireing body language experts etc since julian Assange was Made an example of... journalism hiding

[@donshewmake2521]

Extremely fair depiction of Denmark mask study, well done. I pray for this level of discussion as the standard on any topic.

[@zaurakdigis]

You mean Denmark? The general population did follow government guidelines...so the control group probably wore masks. The study showed providing masks has no effect, they told the control to voluntarily follow guidelines. Not such a well done study.

[@dogcarman]

@@zaurakdigis Erm... except that we just started using masks in the last month or so. Your criticism is spurious.

[@zaurakdigis]

@@dogcarman you live in Denmark?

[@jeffreyevans179]

Even Faucci said masks don't work. It's in this video. Forget this quack. Watch a REAL doctor talk about the scam of a lockdown and that masks do nothing. This virus from China was made to bankrupt the West. vimeo.com/487352310

[@donshewmake2521]

@@jeffreyevans179 I don’t disagree.

[@naturalearthfarm9910]

Will you do more about vitamin D3 and why we aren't telling everyone to take supplements? Look at the studies please.

[@MrJimmyJoe6000]

and also add zinc along with Vitamin D3 at higher than the minimum recommended.

[@unbalancedlibra9788]

Because take your vaccine and shut up!! Thats why. Dont ever question authority again

[@ksharpe8137]

@@unbalancedlibra9788 yep! That’s it!

[@azsunburns]

Most of the suppliments are trash

[@toby9999]

There is already a huge industry pushing supplements and there is no real evidence other than anecdote that supplements are effective against covid-19. Taking vitimin D (and many zinc) is important for immune function if you're lacking, otherwise not really. Most of the push for supplementation in the context of covid-19 seems to be coming from the tinfoil hat mob who for some reason prefer conspiracy over science. That said, supplements have been discussed quite extensively on Medcram, in case you're interested.

[@EugeneLewins]

You guys give me hope for humanity! Thank you for being so genuine, honest, and with such natural humility that you can be funny

[@runninragged2935]

Me the whole time listening to this: YUUUSSS!! THANK YOU for saying you don’t have to be a right wing nut to see what is happening! And saying that calling everyone who disagrees with you a racist diminishes the meaning. I’ve been saying that for months. I heard a quote somewhere that said (paraphrasing) that by calling everyone around you racist, you don’t see the true racists.

[@kathybrady4033]

Every single thing I have heard that has come out of Dr. Gottlieb’s mouth has become true. Very smart guy. And yes there will be pockets of outbreaks but why the heck would that prevent humanity from going back to normal?? We have US clusters of measles and bubonic plague and we don’t keep kids out of school or people out of work!! And the parents want their kids to go back to school NOW, it’s the teachers who don’t want to teach in person.

[@jenniferhoffman7719]

Our entire extended family left a restrictive state for a more libertarian state...we choose not to wear masks for our sanity... it took 7 months for 6 of us to contract Covid and recover quickly. The children are in school .... the vast improvement in all of our mental and physical health and outlook are worth the expense, sacrifice and stress of moving to freedom. ( And btw, I do have palpitations when I wear a mask.... for whatever reason!)

[@lisamichelle5311]

What state please!? I hope it stays that way...

[@jenniferhoffman7719]

@@lisamichelle5311 Idaho from California

[@lisamichelle5311]

Ahhh...and that’s one of the places my boyfriend wants us to escape CA to!@@jenniferhoffman7719

[@lancethumel9277]

Anxiety can cause palpitations

[@monykalynf3604]

Way back at the start when masks really became a pushed thing-there were a few and far between(-because of the "duh-doctors & nurses wear them without issues so you should too" shaming crowd) vids and stories on how to acclimate to mask wearing as many many people are anxious putting a COVER on your mouth. It is NOT natural to cover your mouth for most of us. But of course-to admit this was to be shamed for "ant-mask" so the very helpful instructions were extremely limited in getting message out. It's like learning to put contacts in-it is NOT natural to deliberately stick stuff in your eye!

[@Docinaplane]

I'm an MD and I read the Danish study with a PhD to help me with the statistical analysis of the results. We are uncertain as what the conclusion was. The statistical values for significance between the two numbers was barely valid. However, what I was struck by, from what we can tell, is the infection rates for mask wearers and controls were very low for both. Meaning there were actually very few infections happening in the community. Our conclusions are that, in all probability, if you have an infection and are out and about (which you shouldn't be) wearing a mask will help you not give it to someone else, but if you do not have an infection your chance of catching one in the Danish environment is very low. Individual results may vary.

[@kalamyers-french757]

Thank you! This was great! Im so glad to see more doctors and researchers open to discourse and helping people understand!

[@abomb4848]

Awesome conversation. Love hearing your opinions and interpretations on these things.

[@kimwestenfeld21]

regarding the Danish mask study....participants in study wore masks for "8" hours. Since I didn't see link for study, I was wondering what type of mask? N95, Level 2, level 3?? I work as a dental hygienist. We learned we need to change our mask hourly as moisture and aerosol can negatively affect the effectiveness of the filtration. So of someone wore the same mask for 8 hours it wouldn't surprise me that there was little difference between the 2 groups. Also, how many times in a 8 hour period, did they touch the outside of that mask that may have had aerolsols on it that were then transferred to their hands and then eventually back to their unprotected selves later? Food for thought!

[@SadaMayCondon]

From an RN... you both are spot on when it comes to annual modules

[@RAM-eq1pn]

Totally agree!!

[@joetoe9207]

With respect, I'd love to hear Dr. Prasad (or anyone) debate Dr. Hennigan on any issue related to the evaluation of evidence. Please.

[@seedsandsanity5525]

Nothing like good data, humor and two damn good looking men in one show! Haha! Really guys...those smiles are a treasure!

[@clikens86]

Covid ICU nurse checking in. Thanks for everything Z.

[@donnabaylis2007]

"I think we're going to have more cases in December, then, you know, we’ve ever seen. We already have cases going through the roof. It’s going to be even more.” [mark 30:18] Cases and computer models are not illness or death. PCR tests were not designed to diagnose infectious disease and test results can be manipulated by changing the cycle threshold and/or not taking the time to analyze the test in context of the person being tested. Not impressed with the fearmongering.

[@pattygould8240]

I'm watching this on New Year's Day and my city had more covid cases in December than the rest of 2020 combined.

[@jessman8597]

Thank you so much. I was a Trump supporter that was appalled by him at times. But it's nice to hear people not demonizing me. I'm all for masks and vaccines. Thanks for allowing me to be a fan of science despite my political views.

[@anthonykaiser974]

Amen!

[@melissafeldman9617]

Such a cathartic, open-minded and yet evidence based conversation. Thank you! Keep these interviews coming!

[@zoe0abundant]

This is a breath of fresh air! As a conservative, I constantly feel beaten down by the media and generic "liberal culture". I'm not party line and think for myself. It is so awesome to see people more on the left side not demonizing everyone who disagrees. I am pro-mask because of the great info I have gotten on Dr. Z's show.

[@henniannariina5877]

This channel makes me so happy. Also, can’t believe the subscriber count. Should be 2M instead of 200k.

[@Saknika]

Really enjoyed listening to this nuanced discussion while I sat beading items I hope to sell in an effort to make back lost revenue due to the pandemic. I really value these sorts of conversations and wish more of the general public could manage to have them. Extremism truly is the devil.

[@melissasinclair9303]

"When I was a young kid.... I'm 50, so I hear you, but.... these kids have things they can research. I couldn't. You couldn't. They are learning to be critical thinkers in a different way, and probably a much deeper and richer way. My son who is 24 taught himself computer programming "for fun". He studies different things "for fun". My younger son decided to learn Spanish on his own, "for fun" and they can get all sorts of info where we had to "ponder". They also ponder, but they can delve SOOOOOO much deeper than we could.

[@vanessajanik4623]

I agree w/you. However, I think being constantly inundated w/info has a down side too. And I think the docs were more specifically referring to social media w/likes & comments ..approval/disapproval from peers & strangers along w/the news titles meant to illicit emotional responses... all of that tends to shape young ppl’s identity & how they think of the world because they don’t really have to do much thinking. They’re being told what to think constantly.

[@yomanyohan6828]

I mean this with respect obviously. Your kids sound above average. Not trying to be rude to anyone else’s situation, but that’s not the reality for a lot of people. I think you are right that there are up sides and downsides to everything. It just depends which side is heavier.

[@melissasinclair9303]

@@yomanyohan6828 That is true. These two doctors who were bored probably could have found other ways to enlighten themselves if they had more use of modern technology when they were growing up. That's what I was thinking.

[@laurimiller566]

Love this conversation! I AM a BSN, MSN, Public Health Nurse. I am currently gathering with family for Thanksgiving, just for the day.... we have a LARGE VRBO divided into three sections, one for each household unit. No crossing the lines. 7 of us with masks, face shields, eating outdoors and keeping doors and windows open when we are in. I’m super happy to finally find a label. Alt-middle.

[@JoeBurlas]

This was amazing. The most rational conversation with the nuisances of reality I’ve seen in a long time. If we disagreed on everything I’d still be eager to hear the “why”s on those view. Both of you.

[@deanaderrick3474]

I appreciate this so much. So much of my response about masks and all of it has been emotional as my dad is 78 with a severe heart condition. It's had me heartbroken and angry and all that is manifesting in my daily countenance. I feel that. You guys have been amazingly grounding and helpful to back slightly away from where I've been. I feel a bit better already. Thank you.

Aspiring to be an ICU physician; deeply appreciate the open discussion and thoughtful perspective! Badly needed.

[@gnothiseauton4774]

I just wanted to take the time to express my gratitude for your talk, but especially they way you guys are talking to each other. It is very refreshing to see good solid, knowledge based opinions, but at the same time enough openness to still being able to look at contradicting statements and opinions. I know it's next to impossible to answer all questions you get, so I understand if you can't address this one. But a question that has been bugging me when it comes to vaccination: you mention that after 4 months of getting (and surviving) the virus, people show antibodies, on the other hand, although it is true that younger people might also be very sick, their risk of getting sick seems to be multiple times smaller compared to the efficacy number of the vaccines. And although I recognize that even for young people, who seem to have (on a large scale, not isolated cases) nearly no risk at all of getting something worse than 2 weeks of discomfort, this risk is further reduced by a vaccination... but does that small reduction weighs up against the cost of vaccinating that person, especially in a scenario where there can be long term, still unidentified risks to any of these vaccines? I respect other peoples opinions and I'm not out to convince people, but to ask my question, I need to state that in my mind this adds up to the conclusion that it seems cost effective to strive to primarily/only vaccinate the high risk people, the known vulnerable groups, etc. but the reason I'm questioning my own conclusion is that around the world, there seems to be this giant push or striving for 'we need to get to 70% vaccination'... I'm guessing there should be some wisdom in that statement as well, but I don't really get why they put so much effort on that. For one, if people develop antibodies by themselves, you may reach a '70% immunity' just by vaccinating 40% of a population if we expect about 30% of the population to have been infected by the first quarter of 2021, no? Shouldn't be "immunity" our driver in stead of "% of vaccinations handed out"? So the question is: why would a healthy person, who survived covid, who didn't even get too sick of it, ever want to consider a vaccination? Especially considering that the vaccine should be able to protect vulnerable groups anyway, so spread is not really a real issue anymore? The reason I'm asking is because I seem to be missing something, why else are specialists around the world pushing that 70% number? I'd be very grateful if anyone could share an insight on that. I do appreciate it being evidence based, though, I'm not too fond of guesses or opinions.

[@ZuuBand]

You are so correct about censorship.

[@jenniferhoffman7719]

Re: vaccines and Covid 1. Are you recommending people who have had Covid get the vaccine? 2. What is the latest regarding acquired immunity among those who have recovered from the actual Illness?

[@peapodbrianna]

If you want real unbiased information then this channel is the best place for it. Don’t even watch the news.

[@secoramurray2607]

Great conversation based on rational thought. Since you both support masks, I was wondering why neither of you are wearing masks. Is it because you believe that with an adequate amount of social distancing, masks are no longer required?

[@robertombres8180]

Didnt read through comments to see if this is pointed out- but it’s important to recognize that “wearing masks” isn’t going to protect the person wearing by some significant percentage if the type of mask they’re wearing isn’t designed to protect the person wearing the mask (ie: surgical mask). What type of masks did the study provide? We’re they n95 or better?

[@tomallentraining]

Such a fan! Happy Thanksgiving to the whole ZDogg family. Thank you for your work.

[@dantelivingston345]

I guess this is what I'm doing on a monday night

[@troy5007]

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[@dantelivingston345]

@@troy5007 He's still funny😂😂

[@missmeggie6461]

@@dantelivingston345 he’s fucking HILARIOUS 😂 🤣

[@jamiemiller2016]

How long does immunity last from the vaccine? What about people who have had covid? Wondering how healthcare facilities will handle mandating it for employees who have tested positive...

[@monykalynf3604]

yes-those who have had covid and recovered-especially if vaccine is in short supply in beginning-should they still be prioritized? I have one nursing home where >70% of residents and staff have recovered from it.

[@TheEMFGuy]

Again, brilliant discussion. The balance and compassion is incredible. I guess I'm part of the alt-middle too, in a lot of ways -- even though there are a lot of times I don't agree with ZDogg and his guests. The content of this channel has impressed me so much in the last weeks.

[@lisaelanna]

This idea of the alt-middle is fantastic. I think the vast majority (80-90%?) of Americans want the exact same things, there’s just small nuances about how to achieve the goals of helping people economics-wise, health-wise, opportunity-wise, etc. If only we could have real, thoughtful discussions where we don’t let the most extreme people control the conversation by calling each other racist or stupid etc I think we could make much more progress towards actually meeting those goals and we’d all be much happier and less stressed. Thanks for starting this conversation.

[@joelpatino7432]

Great interview. Zdogg is always saying science the crap out of it and we must hear all voices and opinions in debate. But with regards to vaccines, he says NO DEBATE

[@kimglassner1650]

I love your videos. I wear my mask, but for how long? I’m a former democrat (classic liberal ) I want my life back. I love the alt middle thing and Jay ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@yomanyohan6828]

For how long indeed. I want everybody to have their life back as well. Take care.

[@bizhelpguru]

Real Question #2: While I realize that many groups started vaccine trials around the same time -- three vaccine outcomes almost topping each other in effectiveness 30% higher than CDC recommendations IN A SINGLE WEEK seems highly improbable. Are the vaccine trials really going that well or is this the optical race to market share? How do regular consumers or even critical thinkers sort or evaluate this information?

[@terjeoseberg990]

Well, if you actually understand how they are doing these trials, and you look at and understand the results, you know exactly what to believe.

[@jeffparker6826]

This is why the peer review process exists.

[@bizhelpguru]

@@jeffparker6826 and looks like this question 48 hours later has been asked and answered. Thank goodness for peer reviews!

[@ShimmyMD]

This is the first time I’m seeing him as a guest. He’s awesome. Rational, knowledgeable and just an awesome conversation. Great job

[@kstark321]

Yeah I like this dude.

[@XHALE303]

Yes advocating for a vaccine that can ''save the world'' when it has a survival rate of 99.76% And 99,995% below 50y. Is rational & awesome.

[@ShimmyMD]

@@XHALE303 that’s Bc it could if it is safe and effective. Also have to think about morbidity as well as mortality.

[@XHALE303]

@@ShimmyMD Then why don't you (or science or poiticians) think of that with 200mill predicted deaths from the lockdown, 10 mill deaths a year from smog & finedust, 1,35mill from traffic accidents & millions more from untreated diseases. Which proves beyond a doubt no government ever cared about your health or saving lives. How can u claim it's save when so many vaccins in the past caused many problems, even tho they were tested properly? There is no vacccine against flue & there never will be. It mutates too fast. Virusses are there to prevent a species or plant to populate the whole world & we humans happen to be the virus to all life. Poverty & stress are many times more deadly then this flue, which mainly affects 70+ with underlying conditions.

[@XHALE303]

@@ShimmyMD I have a feeling they never told you the savety risks & why you have no problem to take a vaccine for something that is deadly to 0,14%: www.brighteon.com/ff6d8e07-00ef-42f9-a754-ab6d2d47a26b

[@firstrala2k]

So excited when I get to see you two together!

[@sheriw.7009]

Some of us are loving the excuses to not socialize 🥰

[@JennysHere]

I for one do love the socially distancing guidelines and staying at home, only leaving for necessity, wearing masks, washing hands - even more than that 🛁 every.single.day, keeping your home clean, clean laundry, clean bedroom, vitamins, and anything else to prevent acquiring this disease. My parents-in-law in July told the family at an outdoor gathering, "Don't be scared of a virus, you have to live your life." They only wore masks when required by store signs, etc... otherwise they were maskless. On Nov. 2nd my father in law was hospitalized due to Covid-19, ICU admission Nov. 5th, ventilator Nov. 10th-19th, now he is out of the ICU, lung function is a struggle, still needing oxygen, feeding tube required, may have massive damage to heart and lungs. This is just horrible, but my hubby had stated in July, "We will not be going to anymore family gatherings after that and if anyone gets this it will be my parents, they don't understand Science." Once we are able to talk to his dad it will be interesting to hear his perspective now after having a very serious case of the virus... that is if he doesn't take a turn for the worse again. 😢 So sad that I've heard stories of people who were even in the ICU for Covid-19 still think that they didn't have the virus 😳🙄 Dangerous narrative and mindset. Thanks for the Science doctors, we need it.

[@Brillemeister]

The rest of us are extroverts...

[@pitbull795]

@@Brillemeister Never worn a mask never will.

[@dingho953]

gosh! i just discover U by chance last night, you talk n interview is very logical. I am 70, force retire last Jan 29th. enjoy your show!

[@jenniferhoffman7719]

Please discuss other possible options for humane handling of people in elder or special needs facilities and and their families. We have not been allowed to see my (Alzheimer’s ) husband since March 10. It is inhumane.

[@breezyveezy1]

I loved his op-Ed about Thanksgiving. We will be doing what we normally do bc the world has gone INSANE. I am ashamed of my fellow medical community acting like fascists. P.S I do not think dirty cloth masks work for viruses. Come on! 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@rehabhqofficial]

Case Study on Masks: I found out Friday that a patient I treated for 90 min in a small office tested positive for COVID. We both wore masks. I immediately got tested and tested negative (PCR test).

[@StyleAndSpeedx]

How do you know he didn't get a false positive?

[@paulhobbs9123]

Have to wait for incubation period you aren’t in the clear yet

[@benv4925]

Fake science

[@theradiantchild]

Yea you gotta wait 5 days and then test

[@JohnQGuitar]

The test won't turn positive immediately. You first need to get the infection and then begin to replicate your own virus. THEN, your test may turn positive. You checked the test too soon.

[@awall422]

Great show. Regarding selection of subjects, I volunteered for the Pfizer study in the summer when Phase 3 was starting to get off the ground (in MA). I was rejected because I have the luxury of working from home at this time and wasn't considered high enough risk in terms of transmission. Also, the way the data is read out (these first analyses are triggered by seeing a certain threshold of infections in subjects) they really did want to see people involved who would be at high risk of infection because it helps get that data out faster.

[@crocholiday]

I can't express how good it is to hear a reasonable conversation over Corona / Covid. Thank you! Will definitely be watching more of your stuff. As someone suspicious / cynical of pharmaceutical companies, I'm very leery of a rushed vaccine. I'm looking forward to seeing your videos regarding this, especially from an alt-middle view. Love that term. "I just go to the strip club and make it rain, hipaa, hipaa, hipaa..." that's gold lol.

[@kimberleygirl7533]

I would like to know if there were any other illnesses. Ie a rise in bacterial pneumonia? The amount of innoculam? A good time to actually explore these issues for future pandemics.

[@janesimmons1861]

do any of the vaccines prevent transmission and how many persons in the studies had comorbidities,please.

[@monykalynf3604]

Details I hope will be available. Also-the mRNA study didn't swab regularly so ??if asymptomatic occurred. And if the study didn't find asymptomatic "infections" important my question is why are we concerned RIGHT NOW then with asymptomatic??????? And if the mRNA DOES NOT stop asymptomatic and that is STILL considered an important vector then WTF is it good for and how will this allow us to STOP with the damn mask and (stupid) social distance nonsense??

[@granite110]

Thanks guys as always. One thing that concerns me about vaccine testing numbers that I don’t see discussed is Absolute Risk Reduction. Efficacy is great but if it doesn’t statistically change my absolute risk of getting the Dz , what’s the point. The ARR for the Pfizer vaccine is negligible. Thoughts?

[@Wmom18]

This guy is great and needs his own show!! Has he done any other interviews? So great! 💖😍👍💕

[@rochellestaffieri3158]

Thank you for discussing how studies are interpreted!

[@ArkadyItkin]

Amazing interview. Does anyone know how you can switch cameras like this by yourself when you're making videos?

[@allisontimberlake9599]

You guys give me hope for a better world. Sending you love from Texas.

[@neuromancer5703]

I'm listening to this and just wondering how fellow docs can still be having this inane discussion when: 1. The virus has an IFR that is comparable to a bad seasonal flu.....no masking in the past for that or lockdowns or quarantining of healthy people. 2. All throughout the summer, the actual meaningful data, hospitalizations/ICU and deaths were statistically no different than previous years all through Europe. In other words, with minor exceptions of rural delayed spread, the pandemic was over. See data on Euromomo, PANDAS etc. All the data also shows that neither lockdowns or mask mandates had any meaningful effect on viral transmission and more importantly, deaths from Covid19. Remember that it was the INSANE and ridiculous modeling from Ferguson at Imperial College that was used to shape the response to this pandemic even after his outlandish and wildly inaccurate predictions in the past.......hmmmm. 3. The test being used (PCR) is manipulative and deceitful since it is NOT SPECIFIC for diagnosis for Sars Cov2, but rather a research based tool for amplifying genetic material; 20 cycles or less and reasonably accurate for diagnosis (maybe) for active infection but run it at 30 to 40+ cycles and you have nothing more than rampant false positives being used to manipulate the population into a frenzy of needless fear. 4. The pandemic has not "revealed the inadequacies of science", it has unmasked the fraudulent manipulation of science to be used as a tool for global dominance by forces that have already stated their objective openly.....YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPY! ANY FURTHER DENIAL OF THIS OBJECTIVE SHOWS ONLY YOUR WILLING COMPLIANCE OF THIS AGENDA! Are you a crazy "coincidence theorist"? You cannot run from a pandemic virus that will now be endemic....PERIOD. 5. How much mainstream media BLACKOUT of ACTUAL MEANINGFUL DATA will continue to be ok? How much silicon valley CENSORING of real data will we continue to permit? How long we will we continue to tolerate the exponentially dwindling loss of inalienable rights? A year....two.....a lifetime? Just trying to flatten the curve. 🤣

[@yomanyohan6828]

I really don’t understand why people call agenda 2030 a conspiracy. You can literally read about it on the UN website... I mean really, I did it. It was super freaky and quite insufferable to read.

[@sues7743]

Your channel opens my mind to considering alternatives. I tend to be set in my ways. Great vlog. I would like to hear your thoughts about getting the vaccine. I have been a nurse for many years and I am leery of it for many reasons.

[@patty-cf7jj]

He has stated once he’s convinced it’s safe but he’s not quite there yet. He said he would film himself getting it when and if he ever does.

[@arturoalvarezkawai6773]

What exactly did Scott Atlas say that "pushed Dr. Prasad to the limit"?

[@KatKrueger]

13:40

[@ericleffingwell8617]

Another fantastic interview. Thanks Doc. One question though; has there been any new data/research on how long immunity lasts for SARS-COV2? (LikeVaricella or like Influenza?)

[@jonpierson559]

This is fantastic on so many levels. Thank you so much from the alt-middle!

[@yengsabio5315]

Hello Dr. Z! Is there a way that you may discuss about home-based rapid testing for COVID-19 on your future presentations? Thanks!

[@Ron_the_Skeptic]

I would like them to redo the study now that Autumn is here and the virus is active again. I would like them to run it with a third cohort that just takes 5 or 6 thousand IU of vitamin D.

[@stephend7420]

Great. So on Thanksgiving you agree with Scott Atlas. The 'authorities' need to back off.

[@lesliedavis8756]

Dr. Andrew Kaufman has the substantive perspective. There is no ambiguity and Dr. Kaufman is correct.

[@judithcogburn-fox1659]

What is in the vaccine that makes storing it at -94F necessary?

[@activeobserver6503]

microprocessors JUST KIDDING!!!!! The real answer is that mRNA is a very fragile molecule which denatures at temperatures higher than -70 C.

[@abomb4848]

I thought the Moderna mRna vaccine could be stored at a much higher temp?

[@activeobserver6503]

@@abomb4848 Moderna has more experience making mRNA vaccines than Pfizer. They use a proprietary lipid nanoparticle to protect the mRNA from denaturation at higher (but still freezing) temperatures of -20 C.

[@XHALE303]

www.brighteon.com/ff6d8e07-00ef-42f9-a754-ab6d2d47a26b

[@aprilhunter]

Good Lord. There are sane, normal, rational people out there? Whoa. Thank you so much for this really great conversation on lots of hot topics. Your honesty is refreshing to this "moderate centrist" who finds herself isolated for not picking a side (and admitting that the only thing I know about much of this is that I *don't* know) most days. I learned a lot.

[@tanyam2491]

Holy Shit Doc! You and Dr. V are Indians?? I work at an Indian Health Center!! We have so much in common! Oops, never mind... you're dots, I'm feathers. It was great while it lasted. Gosh, I crack myself up.

[@jmer9126]

In Denmark in spring, it is often still cold. Under what conditions were the subjects using the masks? We’re they indoors in crowded settings and not great ventilation? Did they take masks off because they were only instructed to use them outside?

[@katiehodak6321]

That training modules bit at the end 🤣❤️

[@alana6806]

I’m afraid to be addicted to this Chanel... nahhh, I am a fan... already ...stay safe

[@kittyfan]

absolutely the BEST trials are when the scientist doing the experiment is SHOCKED by the outcome. When the outcome is clearly different from what he wanted/expected, THEN you can trust it.

[@Lisa-NY]

As always the voice of reason. Thank you

[@rehabhqofficial]

Random question, but by any chance is your new RED camera on Dr. V? My assumption says yes? 🤷🏻‍♀️Subject and plant perfectly in focus.

[@stefaniburch8221]

Yesss!! I see these two together and I know it’s going to be good.

[@did3366]

Yes yes yes yes....prohibitions do not work. I ❤ you guys

[@resurrectionautorebuilders8465]

I may not always agree with you guys but I'll tell you one thing, I always walk away from these videos feeling smarter. You both are brilliant and are able to communicate that brilliance.....which is a real gift.

[@kittyfan]

the alt middle would be really nice, but i have a bet on that it will be approved in the USA and sent out on Inaugeration Day in Jan '21

[@ANOOPBAL]

Why did the study plan for a 50% reduction? Bcos the researchers didn't have the money to study a large sample size.A 20% reduction would need a sample size of 30K!! So the easiest way is to exaggerate the protective effect. This is how pretty much how majority of the studies are done. So the study was doomed to start with!

[@tammydeleeuw8020]

Really intelligent, balanced discussion.

[@canmcneely]

This guy is literally the only “progressive” that I want to bear hug 🐻 and then do it again! What a great guy! Thanks Z Dogg! My company just emailed that we’ll be getting the vaccine in a few weeks, and even though I’m RT, I had not researched enough to feel exactly “comfortable”, now, I’ll prob be one of the first in the country to have it:). Xoxo

[@jamesruport2608]

can someone help me straighten out my thoughts. if there are 300000 death and a 2/1000 infection fatality ration have we had 150 million infections in the US?

[@stavroulapsihogios7764]

Love this conversation...it flows!

[@jenyoung921]

What about Universal Precautions? I just feel that is being asked of the general public. The approach of what to do and why seems to be not direct to the general public. Or am I just biased?

[@chriswithersphotography]

When did Chris Daughtry become a doctor?

[@patty-cf7jj]

Look through the comments on all his videos. There’s always a bunch that say the exact same thing.

[@veroniquet3730]

What are your thoughts on Ivermectin? Have you reviewed the literature?

[@patty-cf7jj]

I live in Massachusetts, one the strictest states in the country when it comes to Covid rules, and we have had to wear masks since last spring, yet our rate of cases have gone up in line with all the other states. So when Biden talks about a national mask mandate I can’t help but think masks don’t do anything.

[@katy9860]

Is the difference in effectiveness of the ANC vaccine between Brazil and UK related to the number of people in the population who have a decent mumps titer?

[@MrJimmyJoe6000]

How well do masks protect others when you pull it down to cough in your hand? How well do masks protect others when you take them off to talk to another person so they can hear you talk? How well do masks protect others when you adjust them from the front with your hands? How well do masks protect others when you remove your mask to talk into a microphone? Using the pictures and videos of a person that advocates masks. How well do masks actually work when worn and used by people that use them like Biden? He has continually done all the items above.

[@navigatingyourhealthcare9566]

Damn it, Dr Z. Another great talk, another great guest. Do no harm - don't mix drugs. Policy = science + values. Lack of compliance is reality, build it in to the methods, analysis, and conclusions. da da, da da, da da. Getting played. I'm not of the sub-continent, but to get a little closer, I'm returning to more Ayurvedic practices. Feels good, tastes great, balance and breath, and some whole life benefits. You rock, Dr Z!