Dardick Model 1500: The Very Unusual Magazine-fed Revolver

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The Dardick 1500 was a magazine-fed revolver designed by David Dardick in the 1950s. His patent was granted in 1958, and somewhere between 40 and 100 of the guns were made in 1959, before the company went out of business in 1960. The concept was based around a triangular cartridge (a “tround”) and a 3-chambered, open-sided cylinder. This wasn’t really of direct benefit to a handgun, but instead was ideal for a high rate of fire machine gun, where the system did not need to pull rounds forward or backward to chamber and eject them. In lieu of military machine gun contract, Dardick applied the idea to a sidearm.
The Model 1500 held 15 rounds, inside a blind magazine in the grip. It was chambered for a .38 caliber cartridge basically the same as .38 Special ballistically. A compact Model 1100 was also made in a small numbers, with a shorter grip and correspondingly reduced magazine capacity (11 trounds). A carbine barrel/stock adapter was also made. The guns were a complete commercial failure, with low production and lots of functional problems. Today, of course, they are highly collectible because of that scarcity and their sheer mechanical weirdness.
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[@Axlepaxle]

”THE TROUNDS ARE NESTING” sounds like something someone would say in a weird sci-fi movie

[@secretbaguette]

That's an entire plot device, copywrite that schmitt or something.

[@EchosTackyTiki]

I think I saw that happen on the Discovery Channel once...

[@kakalimukherjee3297]

A few moments later some slimy disgusting man eating aliens crawl out of slimy, soft translucent eggs.

[@aquariandawn4750]

You dare mock the proud Trounds?!?

[@oktayyildirim2911]

@@secretbaguette *copyright

[@MortimerSeptimus]

"I know what you're thinking, 'Did he fire fifteen trounds, or only fourteen?'"

[@quanchi3373]

" I tink 'twas tree fiddy"

[@Jsteeeez]

U feeling lucky punk

[@nt-hd5fo]

He says shots not rounds... So the trounds dirty harry joke wasn't as clever as u thought.

[@Aliyah_666]

@@nt-hd5fo this make you feel special....huh did it..you feel all smart and shit huh...mook 😒

[@xXx_T0M_xXx]

This comment is severely underrated.

[@motherhorsefucker]

Friday. "flintlock machine gun" Tuesday. "magazine fed revolver"

[@Taistelukalkkuna]

And Webley semi-automatic revolver. Where is this gun world going? =)P

[@Igor_lvanov]

The next should be belt-fed bolt action rifle

[@DissedRedEngie]

what next, a three round bullpup anti-tank rifle feeding from a helical magazine?

[@curiousentertainment3008]

A Very Disappointed Red Engineer I’d want to see a weapon like that.

[@kabob0077]

@@DissedRedEngie That sounds like something from a Cyberpunk or even Dieselpunk story.

[@fentontuck9998]

Ian:" and he called them......" Me: don't, please don't Ian: "Trounds" Me: Goddammit

[@fatihmehmetcevik7299]

Goddammit

[@silence___]

Goddammit

[@cody45]

Goddammit

[@Maximus6G]

Goddammit

[@publicdomain4890]

Goddammit

[@gabrielfraser2109]

This is amazing. You get many of the mechanical failures possible in a revolver, while still getting some of the failures possible in an autolader. You can't swap the magazine, and you can't reload with moon clips or speedloaders.

[@valiantviktor]

The worst of both worlds! What a pistol.

[@jmjedi923]

i would thumb up this comment, but its appropriately at 357 so i can't

[@CranialMalfunction]

​@Pidalin I am surprised that this gun wasn't featured in Fallout 4...

[@85blutch]

Would it be possible to develop a stripper clip to have a faster reload? Like the C96? Although with the triangular rounds it would probably be a real pain to use...

[@daviddiggens8841]

​@@CranialMalfunctionI have good news for you. There's a mod for this very gun

[@msuitepyon6675]

It sounded like Ian died a little when he said, "tround."

[@m.b.82]

Yeah I died a bit when I saw him die a bit. Pretty bad.

[@phillylove7290]

Tround is really the dumbest idea imaginable as explained by Ian. Ian sure doesnt understand geometry as much he does guns. Its not a "triangle" design cartridge, its a circular bullet with a triangle encasing. The Trounds triangle design does not save space, it just uses the empty space which is completely pointless. Because its restricted by the circular projectile. For getting as much mass as possible a triangle (thus a square or rectangle) is best for fitting within a magazine, but for encasing a circular bullet obviously a cylinder uses the least space. If you wanted to save space from the Tround you would cut the 3 corners making a cylinder. If the entire cartridge meaning even the slug and primer where triangular then it would save space. But since the bullet is circular then a circle is the smallest size geometry to encase the cartridge. A triangles add mass and certainly doesnt save space. I am boggled this idea made it this far......

[@phillylove7290]

The entire premise of "The Tround" can be proven wrong by the circle, triangle, and square baby toy where they drop the pieces thru the correct slot. I am really boggled nobody in the design team, engineering team, marketing team, product line and just friends/family never understood super simple geometry a pretty long list of animals like crows, dolphins, and monkeys can figure out.

[@CocoTehQuila]

@@phillylove7290 the cross section is a Reuleaux triangle, which means it keeps the same width wherever you measure

[@phillylove7290]

@@CocoTehQuila Yes which makes the design even worse....

[@MarvinT0606]

David Dardick could have invented a belt-fed revolver but the world wasn't ready for that

[@Just_AnotherPlayer]

Haha auto belt fed revolver go brrrrrrrrrrr

[@dennisyoung4631]

“Revolver-Cannons. *Belt-Fed Revolver-Cannons.”* Sam had a pair of these, and he was fond of warming them up…

[@stev3548]

He did actually. The point of the tround system was to be an aircraft belt fed gun, the handgun was just to raise capital

[@greycatturtle7132]

Ye

[@livingcorpse5664]

@@stev3548 He also worked on the H&R SPIW which was pretty much a belt-fed assault rifle with a similar revolver cylinder to this gun. And yes it used it's own version of Trounds as ammo.

[@Mossy500A]

So the 'Forgotten Weapons' logo was a real gun after all.

[@mrb692]

Mossy500A Pretty sure it was the OSS Flying Dragon: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2G1aXl-payEn9U

[@Baby4HeadAutographer]

@@mrb692 I just googled the flying dragon and noticed that the daily stormer did an article about it using Ian's video. I wonder if he knows...?

[@BigShaneGillis]

The logo is not a Dardick

[@ΑριστοτέληςΒαγγελινός-λ8λ]

@@mrb692 yeah the look the same

[@Face2theScr33n]

@@Baby4HeadAutographer No, Ian was in Seattle then.

[@ordinator7203]

This feels like a borderlands weapon, even the round being called tround.

[@afhostie]

I was thinking of the revolver in bioshock actually

[@H2ORaccoon]

It looks like a Torgue gun with a Jakobs barrel and grip lol

[@linkthesloth2867]

It looks like the drang from destiny 2

[@nikolaivanovski9426]

@@linkthesloth2867 it is the drang from destiny 2

[@charolettebacon6740]

If it took more than one tround you weren't using a dardick

[@Vespuchian]

4:10 Okay, I'm adding "Celanese Fortiflex" to my list of "silly names to use in my D&D games". That the sort of name that demands a nice hat, and a grand mustache!

[@RRVCrinale]

My friends like plenty of gunplay in their D&D eras. That might as well be the name of an elfin polymer they use in an early wondernine.

[@ZGryphon]

A similar name selection process, cued by a spam email from a Mexican pharmacy, led to the creation of Dr. Zazox Wazoxazole, alien mad scientist.

[@KickyFut]

It sounds like some complicated exercise machine... Prolly has lots of cables and straps!

[@samsowden]

That... Sounds like Ian...

[@fallout1116]

It was a polyethylene plastic, similar to that used for "Melmac" dishware.

[@bitfreakazoid]

I love the very 50's atompunk look of the whole thing. From the style of the revolver looking like some space blaster to the color of the box, the styling of the logo, and the styling of the ammo box.

[@midgetman4206]

it was made from that time, it was the look

[@Diesel257]

If you haven't already, check out the Whitney Wolverine.

[@LonelySpaceDetective]

This would fit perfectly in a Fallout game.

[@drivanradosivic1357]

the Maxim Silverman, Whitney Wolverine and the Dardick would fit nicely in a Atom Punk world, or game like Fallout. edit: the MPL, A Luty's SMG and the M2/Ingram model 6 would also work as early game guns.

[@samsowden]

The box is *wonderful*.

[@jackmcslay]

7:20 accidentally showing another problem with this design - you can easily load the cartridges backwards

[@codyopperman5930]

He got confused. I don't blame him.

[@aiayou]

@@codyopperman5930 I'm quite sure he did it on purpose for safety reasons.

[@janirossi9142]

I too am sure it was a safety thing, playing with live rounds with a weird gun when making a video is a bad idea.

[@chopinbloc]

@@aiayou That's what I was thinking. I'd imagine the first thing a guy might want to do on acquiring one is to make up some 3D printed dummy rounds.

[@jackmcslay]

@@aiayou Loading live rounds into a chamber in any orientation is unsafe. Fortunately this gun makes it impossible for a round to be chambered with the latch open save for shoving the round directly into the cylinder side so the demonstration is pretty safe. See how the follower is out of the magazine entirely when the latch opens, and how Ian avoids pushing the round too far in? The way this gun is designed basically requires you to load the magazine and close the latch before a round can be chambered, and the rounds only stay there after they catch the tab on the left side

[@RavingRaptor]

The Dardick - For when you can't decide between an auto pistol or a revolver and want the disadvantages of both!

[@karlasmith]

RavingRaptor plus a non removable magazine!

[@ianbruene1529]

@@karlasmith What it really needs is a stripper clip slot and a magazine disconnect.

[@emberfist8347]

The Dardick- because you watched too much Buck Rogers as a kid.

[@cdgonepotatoes4219]

Well, the action is all controlled by the trigger so no need for a spring swap to cycle, and there's no exposed cylinder gap meaning holding it poorly won't result in cut fingers (though it's quite hard to do if you consider the thing's quite sizeable). Say "it has some of the positives of both mechanisms but this goes at a great cost in other aspects"

[@89thaharmaiiioptreshenanig3]

Ian Bruene that’s what the M14 has

[@1StonedPony]

words i never thought i would see together, "magazine-fed revolver"

[@the_real_Kurt_Yarish]

There's a video on KZbin of a machine gun using this feed system, and let me tell you, it's much more effective as a machine gun than a revolver.

[@MrTheta-lc8zy]

What’s that video called?

[@the_real_Kurt_Yarish]

@@MrTheta-lc8zy -I don't recall, it was a long time ago.- Scratch that, I was able to find two separate videos showing off the system: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4XLYXiDdq1sb6M , and kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYWcdHtjes1gg68 . They are both seemingly ripped off of low quality VHS recordings, but there's enough to get a good idea of how they function.

[@MrTheta-lc8zy]

@@the_real_Kurt_Yarish awesome! thanks!

[@the_real_Kurt_Yarish]

@@MrTheta-lc8zy Glad to help!

[@THESLlCK]

@@the_real_Kurt_Yarish real one alert

[@DavidSmith-ss1cg]

This is amazing, to see one of these; I read a Sci-fi novel where the hero had a "Darrick." He later met an gunsmith who called it by the correct name, and he described it as a "revolving automatic, or an automatic revolver, a handy thing for mystery novelists who can't tell the difference." The book is called "Tom Paine Maru."

[@manuelferreira4345]

Thanks i like to read

[@oglack6137]

Ian McCollum: Unicorn Hunter

[@m.b.82]

@@SpeedRacer-pz9jn Unicorn fondler

[@Animotion3D]

@@m.b.82 what

[@herbderbler1585]

This gun is so gloriously 1950's, right down to the logo and the box. I love it.

[@bitfreakazoid]

The Dardick Trounds were actually used in Navy testing. I've got a dummy loaded .50 Cal tround.

[@samiamrg7]

How’d they do?

[@trit2580]

@@samiamrg7 I mean we've been using 50 BMG nonstop for 100 years

[@psychonaut5921]

You're right. I remember seeing an article many years ago with some designs for a machine gun based on belt-fed trounds. I think it was on Guns magazine, around mid-80's. At the time I thought this was how guns would work in the future...

[@deonmurphy6383]

Flash Gordon’s slug thrower to go with his ray gun.

[@markchatman9583]

I was thinking Buck Rogers, in the 21st century of course

[@deonmurphy6383]

Mark Chatman Buck Rogers works also.

[@tenchraven]

Sure! When the other guys have shield belts, it's time for the Dardick! Which sounds really dirty. :P

[@codypainter3905]

Is this the long fabled assault revolver? Also I don’t care how impractical it is I want one, badly

[@flare9757]

Cody Painter I actually designed something I called the “assault pistol”. Looks like a Halo Magnum in silhouette but a bit smaller, and the guide rod roughly alined with the center of the grip.

[@johnm3907]

Imperial Shocktrooper funny comment

[@norwegianwiking]

we could probably make a .22LR version using 3D printed case adapters easily today. Buy adapters or print your own. gun will cost probably 3k, printing a single adapter takes an hour or two.

[@GunsNGames1]

Magazine fed, high capacity assault cilinder with 500 round assault clips

[@KILOXSILENCER]

@Jimm Crowe tis a fucking joke my man.

[@kevinharrigan2727]

I legitimately wish someone made repros of these, the Dardicks were so wacky but such interesting guns. Honestly with modern polymers and 3D printing this concept might be worth taking a look at.

[@paradoxequinox4104]

I know its got plenty of disadvantages compared to most other pistols, but I sincerely love the look and design of this gun. It's just so cool!

[@pricklydingus8604]

When you get shot with this thing, you get *trounced.*

[@Spazzycat14]

You are ducked if you get shot with the dardick.

[@moehoward01]

Ba-dump-bump....

[@Sipex6484]

That joke was extremely funny

[@Adam-qv2bd]

Trounded

[@isaiahcampbell488]

This had me down on the tround laughing.

[@Brawl847]

It's always funny to hear Ian say "I've been wanting to do a video on this one for a while" while I'm like "I had no idea this gun even existed until you did a video on it." Makes me wonder what other guns he's been eyeing that plenty of us don't even know exist.

[@ARCNA442]

There should have been a Dardick-Fosbery semi-automatic magazine-fed revolver. More seriously, this looks like with a bit of effort it could be developed into a useful design. Both the aluminum cover and steel body appear excessively large for what they need to do, and a simplified firing system may also be possible. Modern polymers and fabrication might allow for smaller trounds as well. Finally, incorporate a detachable magazine, and you could have an extremely accurate gun that would be an incredible optic / silencer host.

[@LeafseasonMagbag]

A good concept Also, Fosbery-Dardick sounds like the last-name of a steampunk character

[@perrywaaz3660]

That would have been so cool

[@tomaskanka6223]

This is actualy smart mechanism, imagine this on a shotgun. Imagine how much recoil it would have, It would be shotgun minnigun.

[@kirkcavenaugh758]

You're saying the recoil would be less?

[@tomaskanka6223]

@@kirkcavenaugh758 No, the imagine recoil on a minnigun and combine it with a shotgun. Its really big. So im saying that recoil would be enormous.

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

@@tomaskanka6223 Shotgun shells really don't have that much recoil considering the size.

[@thomasball5432]

@@tomaskanka6223 revolving and auto/semiauto shotguns exist, the minigun comparison doesn't make much sense.

[@secretbaguette]

Helooooo, space program.

[@McFlingleson]

I didn't grow up around guns, but I always found them interesting and always tried to figure out how machines worked, so when I tried to figure out how a semiautomatic pistol worked with pure speculation and no actual firsthand experience in the matter, what I came up with was actually very similar to this.

[@AA-ir5tc]

We need to see a 2-Gun Action challenge pitting the Dardick against the Gyrojet

[@aleksanderszablinski6941]

The100thAttempt the fact this is already a thing both shouldn’t have surprised me and completely astounded me. God damn it do I love the internet

[@isaiahcampbell488]

This is pure beauty...I'm not crying...whose crying *blows nose*

[@Reddsoldier]

I feel that they should have combined their concepts into a triangle rocket bullet firing magazine revolver... They could've called it the Gyrodick

[@finnmcool2]

I call winner! I just got a Zip 22...

[@perochialjoe]

Finally a revolver that fires hi-chew.

[@THESLlCK]

HAAAAAAAAH

[@VaterOrlaag]

Now there's a proper forgotten weapon. And for good reasons.

[@pbellbell]

yes but eunice.

[@metalhead522]

No

[@Hellsong89]

I dont know about that. Its surely forgotten, but internals if updated to 21st century, using common ammunition like 9mm and in short bullpup configuration this would be ideal to get around Finnish gun regulation where owning a handgun requires absolutely ridiculous amounts of hoop jumping and same apply to all semi-automatic guns. Essentially government is trying to little by little kill any and all private gun ownership in the country, being afraid people will riot due their corruption and out right treason, like among other things turning electric, road, railroad networks into private companies and then selling them to foreign corporations, not to mention selling Finnish clean water table to also for foreign corporations. Plus hellawa lot unneeded taxes that are then poured into private companies as government aid money, what usually are owned by politician or their close family members, most recent ones being those immigration centers and of course trowing public money towards EU to gain high paying seat in EU...

[@MooresGroup]

Celanese Fortiflex sounds like a character in a new Star Wars franchise...

[@oscarbaezsoria1650]

To me it sounds more like a crappy cereal.

[@donweatherwax9318]

Can't it be both?

[@Argonak1]

Flex-tape in 30 years.

[@ianmacfarlane1241]

@MooresGroup Who shot first? Han Solo or Celanese Fortiflex?

[@troya8627]

And this gun looks like something from Star Wars

[@harrychung433]

I remember seeing someone shooting this odd little thing when I was a wee lad. I think hi name was Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen. That is what you get when you put a Gyrojet pistol and a 1911 in the same vault for too long.

[@kabob0077]

Why am I imagining Commander Cody from Star Wars stuck on EDN III with this gun?

[@TrinidadJamesWoods]

If a Gyrojet and a Mars had a child, it would look like this Dardick.

[@svtirefire]

Actually it's nothing at all like a 1911.

[@fetishartist137]

#securecontainprotect

[@grayharker6271]

40 years ago, I was introduced to a friend of a friend. We were talking guns when he went into his closet and pulled out a bag full of pistols. He had colt peace makers, early 1911s lugers, Walthers, Schofields and then he pulled out one of these! I had only seen one in books, I never thought I would see or hold one!

[@Statusinator]

Combine this with a Webley-Fosbery and you've got yourself an automatic, magazine-fed revolver!

[@evanwickstrom5698]

then make it full auto

[@thesturm8686]

@@evanwickstrom5698 and put carbine conversion handguard and stick holster

[@THESLlCK]

@@thesturm8686 while we're all still here it needs a massive scope for that epic MLG

[@koncrete7839]

Celanese still exist as a speciality polymer company. I couldn't find out anything about Fortiflex, so maybe they don't make that any more or it is called something else. They do make a product called Forflex (I don't think they are the same) which seems to be mostly an EVA (Ethylenevinylacetate), this is the stuff Crocs and similar are made of.

[@Tulip1811]

I've been waiting for this one! Shoutout to LifeSizePotato.

[@norwegianwiking]

do we know if he's still alive?

[@cyanidic3673]

yeah is he still utube active he hasnt made a vid in almost a year and half i believe

[@Dr4gon2000]

Shit, just saw this comment before posting the same thing lol

[@chickenphirm8968]

@Jurassic Pork interesting, he's still active on Reddit though so maybe he's downsizing?

[@morvan68mt]

@@chickenphirm8968 I don't think it's his one - if you watch the videos together, the scratches/marks look different, and also lifesizepotato had a 2nd barrel

[@ThommyofThenn]

>do you want a pistol or revolver? Dardick: yes

[@neofoxboi]

If I ever make a 50's shooter this is going in! Also this feels more like a Revolver-fed Magazine!

[@Totaldane]

07:15: If gun Jesus can load bullets backward, so can everyone else.

[@MurcuryEntertainment]

Solution? A bullet that can fire loaded backwards

[@joergmaass]

@@MurcuryEntertainment Kinda like a darwinian solution to the gun proliferation problem...

[@jessb91106]

I had a buddy that I took shooting and he loaded a magazine for my M1 Carbine while I was in the bathroom. I came back and realized he had loaded the entire magazine backwards and did not understand why it would not chamber.

[@victoriaevelyn3953]

might be a safety reason dont want a live round going off

[@whitenoise1119]

Safety

[@pg2854]

Surprised nobody's mentioned it, but that is a tround going into the chamber BACKWARDS at 7:18 ... I could see that being an issue, but easily addressed! Let's 3d print some modern trounds with arrows a la "this way toward enemy"!

[@Mayor_McCheems]

Is that that darn high capacity revolver California was talking about?

[@kylef634]

we finally found it!

[@teamcybr8375]

High capacity assault revolver with high capacity magazines.

[@richarddelotto2375]

Having lived in that general area for 30+ years I often wondered if there was something weird in Hamden's water...

[@robbiemer8178]

Been reading/hearing about the Dardick for a long time, thank you for some good detailed info, Ian! But what intrigues me most is the info you mention early--around the 1 minute mark--that the revolver was made to support the machine gun development. Now, THAT seems like it might be interesting to learn about. I'm guessing that with so few revolvers sold, the "real" project didn't go very far? Clearly we don't have tround firing machine guns. Was there any work/development done towards that idea? Thank you for another excellent episode!

[@jbt-qu6lm]

we actually do have tround firing machine guns! kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5fYm59qn55oirs

[@MrRandomcommentguy]

that is just the most bizarre gun ever

[@ericyonchak7026]

I’m sure half the reason it wasn’t adopted was the word *tround* . What a groaner.

[@skeetsmcgrew3282]

Imagine going up to the gun counter like "Hey yea could I get 2 boxes of trounds?" **Gun shop owner snickers** "Um I'm sorry can you repeat that?" -- "Must I?"

[@jonasstrzyz2469]

@@skeetsmcgrew3282 Imagine a LEO while engaged in a gunfight. I am out of trounds!

[@SonicsniperV7]

"Okay sir we like your gun, it really has potential and the high capacity has us interested. Now what did you say you call these new bullets?" "Trounds" "...okay never mind we're cancelling the contract. Get out."

[@ericyonchak7026]

Skeets McGrew Gonna go to the field with my buddies today and send a few *trounds* downrange.

[@moosemaimer]

The Springfield Armory museum has a Remington pistol that used a similar design and triangular ammunition... in the 1860's.

[@MrAnticlimate]

Now *that* is a forgotten weapon perfect for this channel ☺.

[@edwalmsley1401]

A few manufacturers came up with funky case designs to try and work round the rollin white patent for bored through cylinders owned by S&W,teat fire anyone ?

[@evanwickstrom5698]

oooh, anyone got any more info on that thing? I’m curious now.

[@fukumarkzuckerburg]

just a dumb question ; did he ever build any of his machine gun concepts, even as a tool room prototype?

[@nigelosborne7471]

I would love to see that.

[@worldtraveler930]

I was about to ask that very question.

[@slaughterhound8793]

Garry James did an article in Guns & Ammo on the Dardick early this year I believe. He had some aluminum triangular cases milled out that a regular .38 Special cartridge could be inserted into to be run through the pistol; seemed to help a lot with the functioning of the weapon.

[@inkmime]

Whoever was doing the graphical design work for the branding and designs on the boxes was pretty on point, it's not extremely detailed but there's a good choice of color, font, and stylings going on.

[@ooloncaluphid]

A great companion piece for your Gyrojet pistol. Looks like you could easily load a round, oops, "tround" in backwards, but it would just cycle through the action and be ejected.

[@DerTypDa]

A somewhat similar concept was actually put into practice earlier in the Soviet ShKAS aircraft machine gun. It uses a cylindrical, revolving feed case that incrementally pulls each cartridge out of its belt link as it travels around in a circle. This makes for a smooth delinking process and a strong and even belt pull, allowing the gun to fire at a pretty blistering 1800 RPM while using long belts without too much trouble. Apparently there was even a version that went all the way up to 3000 RPM, but that was quickly obsoleted by larger-calibre cannons that emerged around the same time.

[@endernoah9526]

That sounds interesting. Do you remember the name of said gun?

[@morgancampbell5349]

I'm very good friends with the Dardick family, I've seen this gun as well as all the attachments for it. Obviously not a very functional weapon, but like you said, it's only a housing unit. The real invention was the action and the tround and from what I have seen from their current projects, they were on the right track in the 50's

[@dvon9392]

I really wish this had caught on. I think it's really cool

[@maverick3576]

Dardick revolver says to the Zip 22 "I am your father"

[@kabob0077]

That's not true! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!

[@mjtheko]

Join me, and together we will rule the galaxy! (Of really bad guns)

[@kevinwaddle447]

"And your uncle is the Gyro-Jet!"

[@RRVCrinale]

kevin waddle "Well, what does that make us?"

[@Curtislow2]

Looks similar to a Weller soldering gun.

[@angus57720]

Holy shit it does!

[@wingracer1614]

Especially the old ones from the 50s. I still have one of those (my grandfathers) around here. New ones also look like that but a little less so.

[@dcisfun]

Hairdryer I was going to say but the Weller is best!

[@dcisfun]

Ruger 10/22 wants to have a word

[@davidminken4094]

This has to be the raison d'etre for this channel's existence. That's just nutty.

[@christopherdean1326]

One of the Sherlock Holmes stories "The Dancing Men", features a revolver with an ejector. Every time I read it, I think of the Dardick. Unfortunately, the story was written in 1903, long before the Dardick was made. What Sir Arthur was thinking of is anybody's guess. I suspect he was using "revolver" to mean "handgun".

[@medes5597]

British police guns of the era is what he meant. A handgun but definitely a revolver and it did indeed eject rounds like he describes. I can't remember the model but check it because its a real thing he's describing. Cool as hell too from what I remember. The Jeremy Brett sherlock holmes series uses the correct revolver in their adaption of the story as well.

[@thomasball5432]

There were a few auto-ejecting revolvers. They serve no real purpose other than being 19th century Tacticool™

[@christopherdean1326]

@@medes5597 I haven't watched it in a while (have it on DVD, and videotape!), but my recollection is of Abe Slaney carrying a Colt Single Action Army, no auto ejection there!

[@haroldbalzac6336]

Silver and Fletcher's Expert had an auto ejector, that could be the gun Sir Arthur was talking about.

[@christopherdean1326]

@@haroldbalzac6336 Interesting! I shall delve further into that. Thanks!

[@RockIslandAuctionCompany]

In the Quad Cities, ALCOA is still a very good thing. They've been in Davenport since 1948.

[@jasonhowell8]

Alcoa is still a very large corporation. You just don't hear about it much. They also have a large facility in Fort Worth. It's been there as long as I can remember.

[@DeadBaron]

Magazine fed revolver: okay, odd Triangle shaped casings: excuse me wtf??

[@Lordingish]

"Alcoa is a good 1950s thing." And a company I still try to get work at in 2019 >.>

[@dksdg]

Also where almost all AR forgings come from, and airplanes lol.

[@rogertycholiz2218]

Tired & Grumpy - Aluminum Company of Canada (ALCOA) is the largest aluminum producer still in business today.

[@jackofmanytrades4396]

I remember a friend of mine some years ago telling me about a mag fed revolver, Trounds, and how it worked. It makes much more sense now.

[@otm646]

One of the best functional prints I've seen in a long time.

[@bermchasin]

i made a 3d printed annealing machine for 6.5 creedmoor

[@peterhessedal8539]

I think I remember one of these being used as a prop gun on an old Outer Limits episode. It was the episode where retired astronaut is hunting alien that was supposed to have all been exterminated and he had a clone of himself made to help hunt it.

[@vonzigle]

I remember that episode!

[@SgtKOnyx]

Honestly, this seems like all the negatives of both automatics and revolvers

[@davidkuehne476]

Only because of the very poor design implementation - a removable magazine would allow for a far more compact grip/frame, and reloading would be just like any other automatic.

[@BeefaloBart]

Numrich Arms has so many parts. The printed catalog I used to have for them was almost 3 inches thick. Well worth the money to buy even just the catalog.

[@asteroidrules]

They really went all out on the aesthetics for this one, everything about that packing and marketing material is beautifully stylized.

[@senvr11]

FW: The interesting part of triangular cartridges is that you can fit more bullets in one spot than a cylinder Me: hehe funny name Dardick

[@TomBall-r4d]

I did have books printed when Dardick were new. You could get the tround sleeve in which 38 special could be inserted.

[@Amaterasu-wh6xj]

the packaging looks like something a modern uni-tasking kitchen appliance would come in, before it starts collecting dust in some drawer

[@davidkerr4137]

This deserved to be used as a star wars blaster lol

[@jeffbruh3253]

This looks like something you would draw when taking too much adderall

[@quatro_quatro]

The Dardick Model 1500 - When a settlement REALLY needs your help.

[@kabob0077]

*Pulls out AKM and slings Lee-Enfield over back* No thanks, I'll stick with what I have.

[@ethanblevins1116]

Ooooooohhhhhhh hhhheeeeelllllllllll nnnnoooooo

[@alpacatwoniner2370]

Im more of a semi auto .308 combat rifle with the bayonet. Nothing super fancy. Good times in downtown Boston though...

[@meatpuppet5036]

I love the ingenuity of this. Bold design choices made from a place of logic.

[@LeSarthois]

Amazing video as usual. What amuse me alot is that precisely the day before you published this video, someone posted a picture from the simpsons, showing someone loading a magazine into a traditionnal-looking revolver (not a group about guns, BTW, it was just for laughs). And I said "Well there's Ian on KZbin, if such a thing ever existed, even as a prototype, he'll show it eventually". And you delivers. Quite an amusing coincidence :)

[@samiamrg7]

I’m gonna outline a silly gun: It is a rifle with a magazine-fed revolver that shoots duplex, (with options for triplex) saboted flechettes housed in triangular plastic cartridges.

[@moekitsune]

You monster

[@samiamrg7]

@@moekitsune What could possibly go wrong? ... _Everything_

[@Gen.CornrowWallace]

I read the title and thought it would be some crazy mechanism, pleasantly surprised its a simple way to mix magazine and cylinder. I was scratching my head at how it worked before I watched the video 😂

[@DaveTex2375]

This looks like a WW2 Japanese pisol had it's genes spliced with a Nagant revolver. Maybe it's a blaster for Buck Rogers?

[@Hiihtopipa]

That is one of the most cursed guns i have seen. Even the rounds are cursed!

[@wacojones8062]

I handled one at the NSGA show in Chicago and still have one Tround. I also have read reports of the High Rate Machinegun design in approx 410 shotgun bore dimension that threw a SABOT 44 gr, if I remember right, flechette at very high velocity. ? 3,600 to 3,900 FPS ? Target cyclic rate was in the thousands of rounds per second. Jams in the feed system killed the project. 2 barrels fired at the same time. I believe it had 8 chambers. It was designed for air to ground attack of infantry formations. 2.75 Rockets with flechette loadings were what was adopted instead.

[@MaxMotherfucker]

The box looks astoundingly modern, if you were to present me just that id say it wasnt designed longer than 10 years ago

[@tamamonomae7465]

That comic with the that guy putting a magazine and chambering a round into a revolver

[@warphammer]

Oh, okay. Fortiflex appears to have been Celanese's name for High Density Polyethylene. So that's not that exotic.

[@05Matz]

Oh, really!? HDPE is actually really common and (AFAIK) easy to work with (except for 3D printing, where it's uncommon and I've heard that its non-stick nature can be a bit of a pain)! I thought it was some kind of semi-exotic nylon blend, but since it's intended to squeeze into the contours of the chamber when fired, it makes sense that it's something on the softer side like HDPE.

[@warphammer]

@@05Matz Most of the things on the Internet about it are about its early use in nuclear applications and people looking for a replacement got told "Oh, it's nothing special". I'm honestly a little surprised nobody'd made any yet - it doesn't seem quite as hard as people make it out to be.

[@mporter1289]

Wait, Ian... are you telling me the Simpson's got it right?

[@jackandersen1262]

Magazine ain’t detachable.

[@mporter1289]

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine issa joke

[@jonasstrzyz2469]

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Loudener.

[@Echowhiskeyone]

Looks like it was inspired by or inspired a sci-fi ray gun.

[@thelastjohnwayne]

Notice that Ian was "loading the Tround" backwards. I realize the he was not really loading it but just showing how it was loaded.

[@scowler92]

This concept needs to be revisited.

[@HandFromCoffin]

Finally they have done it! A revolver that jams.

[@HandFromCoffin]

And it's totally a 50's ray gun.

[@HandFromCoffin]

Sorry.. I should really wait till the end to post.. but that's also crazy.. Maybe 50 guns where produced yet you can still get ammo AND parts! That can't be common ether.

[@Dalroi1]

Reminds me of an old weller soldering gun my dad had.

[@Baron_von_Abstand]

looks like a ballistic space gun. obviously the rings on the front are missing.

[@saturn580]

Fascinating concept and aesthetic, but totally impractical. Surprised I've never seen one in a movie or videogame.

[@airdeprime8560]

Just when I thought I knew all exotic designs in firearms... Thanks for your research and for the quallity of your videos. Cheers from France.

[@nocount7517]

"So, is this a revolver or a pistol?" "Yes."

[@Specter_1125]

No Count I mean, generally a revolver is a type of pistol.

[@user-njyzcip]

Isn't this just a pistol sized revolver cannon…?

[@evanwickstrom5698]

...Well damn, if they marketed it like that this thing might still be selling today.

[@fragglefknrock7568]

You say that like it actually had a selling period.

[@ShadowFalcon]

I did think I saw a resemblance to Mauser's BK-27.

[@ApocolypsMeow]

Is this a reupload? I swear I've seen you cover this before...or am I crazy???

[@saphrone4071]

probably on LifeSizedPotato

[@scinto23]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@papawushutv]

Me too. I am sure of it. I already knew all about this gun and I am sure it was from Ian, but then I saw the upload date...

[@karlenhelder]

That box looks super modern, the logo is really awesome

[@bryancomeaux4961]

i was just thinking about this gun last night then you posted this the next day pychic phenomenon

[@RafaelCosta-oi3be]

Sad that it didn't kick off, seems like a very cool concept.

[@kermit2jo]

I wanna see guns like this in more sci-fi/cyberpunk games. It looks funky and futuristic at the same time

[@Cal6009]

I think his first problem was making some weird proprietary rounds instead of using mass produced ones that everyone else did.