Dark Beginnings has CHANGED Shadow forever

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Channel Pup

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@clerkwithamouth
@clerkwithamouth 2 ай бұрын
"How do you let your guard down when you've got the Devil in your DNA?" Bro... That hits hard.
@Rishi123456789
@Rishi123456789 2 ай бұрын
Maria made it clear to Shadow that it's his actions that define him, not his DNA.
@yay29823
@yay29823 2 ай бұрын
"Hi Shadow! It's me!"
@clerkwithamouth
@clerkwithamouth 2 ай бұрын
@@Rishi123456789 and all she ever wanted was for him to believe her when she said that. But in Shadow's mind, his very existence was a constant reminder that the devil was real.
@abrahammartin4695
@abrahammartin4695 2 ай бұрын
​@@clerkwithamouthThat is what I thought!
@monaiza2177
@monaiza2177 2 ай бұрын
I wrote this comment already under @Sam Procrastinates latest video, but I really need to get this out of my system once again: The moment Shadow said "That life was taken from me years ago" I realised something... The scar of loosing his best friend is relatively fresh. As far as we know, Shadow had been sealed away by GUN soon after the incident on the ARK. Right after Maria died... It might had been 50 years to the world, but in Shadow's eyes, all this time came down to moments. Which only makes it harder for him to move on. I know the timeline of the games isn't really explained, we don't know how long are the periods of time beetween the events of each game, but... How much time could realisticly have passed? A few months? A year? It doesn't even feel like it's been 2 years from SA2 to Sonic Generations in the game universe... One thing is sure though... Shadow's wound definitely still hurts, and it is definitely still healing...
@AwesomeCakester
@AwesomeCakester 2 ай бұрын
Fun reminder; Kirk Thorton said they had done a second runthrough for recordings just to make sure they got the tone of the story right. Which is a very rare thing to do in game recordings especially for Sega.
@BritBox777
@BritBox777 2 ай бұрын
Studio Giggex summed it up perfectly at their panel, saying "We really just want to make an anime." This project drips passion and you can tell they want a full length anime show as much as all of us! And they absolutely deserve it. Dark Beginnings is the Sonic media we crave.
@Rishi123456789
@Rishi123456789 2 ай бұрын
>Dark Beginnings is the Sonic media we crave. It's also the Sonic media I deserve as a Sonic fan since 1996.
@silverstar1614
@silverstar1614 2 ай бұрын
​@@Rishi123456789huh
@FireWizzrobe
@FireWizzrobe 2 ай бұрын
I do sincerely hope we get an anime by them at some point! This was stunning.
@comicfan1324
@comicfan1324 2 ай бұрын
I find it interesting that Rouge doesn’t believe she would be able to talk Shadow down. There’s been a handful of times Rouge has tried to convince Shadow to see sense: 1. In SA2, Rouge tried convincing shadow his memories might be fake, and although Shadow admitted there was a chance she might be right he was still determined to see his plan through 2. In Sonic Heroes, Rouge was able to convince shadow and Omega to form an alliance to track down Dr. Eggman even though the two were hell-bent on killing each other just a minute prior. 3. In Sonic Rivals 2, Rouge convinced Shadow to explain why he was trying to collect the chaos emeralds even though just a few seconds prior he made it clear he wouldn’t be explaining his motives (Sonic Rivals isn’t exactly known for great writing, now is it?) 4. In Sonic IDW, Shadow was hell-bent on killing Mr Tinker and Rouge chose not to directly get in his way. Implying that she didn’t believe he’d listen. 5. When Shadow was infected by the Metal Virus, Rouge tried telling shadow he should run for his own good, but he refused. (Not the best depiction of him but it should be mentioned.) 6. Once more in IDW, I never noticed how often these two are at odds in this book, Rouge convinces Shadow not to go after Dr. Starline and instead help Sonic save some civilians. So with all this in mind, the results vary from case to case. It seems sometimes Rouge can talk sense into Shadow and sometimes she can’t. Regardless the two are typically on the same page and trust each other full heartedly.
@Dairunt1
@Dairunt1 Ай бұрын
That line may need some context. She can talk him down EXCEPT for anything related to Maria.
@BonitoJoe111
@BonitoJoe111 2 ай бұрын
Commander Abe is now the Commissioner Gordon to Shadow's Batman, which I am all for. It's also really surreal seeing Shadow finally having strong emotions outside of anger or being a jerk. These shorts highlight that while Shadow is by default a stoic and logical thinking being, as Maria put it, "he has a big heart, it's just difficult for him to express it." As an introvert, that speaks to me at a personal level. The way Dark Beginnings re-contextualizes and re-establishes Shadow's lore is done brilliantly. Hopefully, these shorts will get more recognition in the gaming/animation community.
@Iwillone
@Iwillone 2 ай бұрын
Still don't know how Sega has not cashed in on their Batman since 05 till now comes the year of Shadow (- ^ )
@erickrafaelfloreslara8501
@erickrafaelfloreslara8501 2 ай бұрын
And Rouge would be his Catwoman, makes sence considering her personality.
@Rishi123456789
@Rishi123456789 2 ай бұрын
I abhor Shadow's spin-off game and I don't consider it to be canon, but I have to admit that I love the way Abraham Tower is depicted in Dark Beginnings Episode 3. Maria really brings out the very best in everyone, even a jerk like Abraham. Maria's positive legacy is still continuing with Abraham gaining more respect toward Shadow as Maria was a friend to both Shadow and Abraham. Also, I don't care what anyone says, I love the Archie Sonic comics (yes, even the Penders-Era Archie Sonic comics). I grew up with the Archie Sonic comics. To see Archie Sonic lore (like the GUN commander having the name Abraham Tower, for example) being referenced in Dark Beginnings Episode 3 makes me very happy. I wish the Paramount Sonic movies would also reference the Archie Sonic comics, but they'd never do something that cool.
@nathanielvaughn6728
@nathanielvaughn6728 2 ай бұрын
43:18 -- Channel Pup: "How am I supposed to meme this!?!" Jehtt (as Shadow's on his way to the Ark): "Did I leave the oven on?"
@TheHallow31
@TheHallow31 2 ай бұрын
As a lifelong Shadow fanboy, it just melts my heart and revitalizes my soul to see such a powerful return to form for this character. I've been waiting nearly 20 years for this... Also, Shadow did just waste military money, which, as we know, is super funny.
@KaleBennett
@KaleBennett 2 ай бұрын
Glad to see Pup promoting the Sonic Generations remaster by putting himself in the white void, such a brilliant easter egg. Bravo Vince.
@fiblz5443
@fiblz5443 2 ай бұрын
what remaster
@asymetricalart
@asymetricalart 2 ай бұрын
Sonic x shadow generations?​@@fiblz5443
@Bestmotion2389
@Bestmotion2389 2 ай бұрын
what remaster?
@nathanielvaughn6728
@nathanielvaughn6728 2 ай бұрын
Sonic Generations? You mean that bonus game on the Shadow Generations disc?
@MauriceWadegu
@MauriceWadegu Ай бұрын
Cool
@TB-fe4up
@TB-fe4up 2 ай бұрын
The final episode just broke me and made me cry. The finally scene when Shadow got visions of Maria and also reveling that Gun Comander name is Abraham "Abe" Tower from Archie is just peak.
@Eleoness
@Eleoness 2 ай бұрын
Those visions are not just about Maria, it's about him too. They reveal the (dark) fate that was awaiting him once he would fulfill his "quest" to heal Maria: death.
@TB-fe4up
@TB-fe4up 2 ай бұрын
@@Eleoness Ok i just wasn't able to figure it out.
@Eleoness
@Eleoness 2 ай бұрын
@@TB-fe4up It's okay.
@NANIXON1998
@NANIXON1998 2 ай бұрын
Sonic Team's like "I may be cringe, but you're mean and that's worse"
@socks456
@socks456 2 ай бұрын
This has to be a defining moment for ian Flynn, if you didn’t like his writing before, you have to now. He’s made these characters mature again, he’s made this franchise, mature again.
@Abner-gu3ve
@Abner-gu3ve 2 ай бұрын
His writing been good. He’s responsible for one of the best written arcs in the Archie comics
@1999bazz
@1999bazz 2 ай бұрын
Slow down. While his work in Dark Beginnings was really good, Ian doesn't have that much motion in this franchise. Sonic Team have wanted to do more serious sincere stuff & thanks to Frontiers' success, they're finally getting their way.
@KMAXfr
@KMAXfr 2 ай бұрын
​@@1999bazz ian has written most things in sonic tf u smokin?
@JAM609
@JAM609 2 ай бұрын
Mature seems like a weird phrase here, it’s easier to say it’s just good again
@socks456
@socks456 2 ай бұрын
@@JAM609 how? It’s the correct word to use, I believe anything “tragic” goes with the word mature
@peteypiranalover
@peteypiranalover 2 ай бұрын
This episode also recontextualizes the Generations fight. Before we figured Sonic was redoing the Shadow fight from SA2 but now Shadow actually just went back to the Arc and for some reason fought a Time Warped Sonic again. I am sure more context will be given in the Shadow Storyline.
@phantomstrider
@phantomstrider 2 ай бұрын
50:52 This was a really concise explanation of why KZbinrs can get destroyed for trying to diversify their content. It can make trying new videos a scary prospect. Thanks for putting that time and quality into what you do, Pup. Glad to be one of your new bosses and looking forward to either Sonic or whatever other content you got planned 😀
@ChannelPup
@ChannelPup 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your support as always, Strider! 🙏
@nathanielvaughn6728
@nathanielvaughn6728 2 ай бұрын
Will people please give this pup a pound? It worked for the Strider, it can work for the canine!
@dreqdreck7531
@dreqdreck7531 2 ай бұрын
Amy inadvertently triggered a dormant memory of Maria to talk Shadow down. It seems that people need to invoke "Maria-ness" to persuade him. I'd argue that not even Amy can do that consistently. Though I will say that Amy and Cream would have the best chances.
@sootsprite6407
@sootsprite6407 2 ай бұрын
I'd say Amy and Cream having the best chances of bringing it out of Shadow may very well be the case. In the Shadow the Hedgehog game, if you been going on a Pure Dark path, when reaching Cryptic Castle (which can only be reached on this path may I add) you can choose to help Amy find Cream and Cheese. By completing the mission and going Hero rest of the way it will actually put him right back on the path towards a Pure Hero ending, heavily implying that even after doing many misdeeds he still can be fully redeemed by the end thanks to them.
@SonicLegends
@SonicLegends 2 ай бұрын
Very true. Even Sonic has invoked similar sentiments that Maria had echoed. In episode 2's Finding the Way, Maria's reassuring speech to Shadow that he ultimately has a heart that separated him from the Black Arms resembled a similar speech by Sonic regarding both Shadow and Emerl in Sonic Battle regarding their past as "weapons." and that they have hearts especially after Shadow changed his mind to save the planet unfortunately there because of how Emerl mirrors Shadow and due to the threat Emerl presents in knowing how dangerous the robot is, Emerl's mere existence makes Shadow think about having almost destroyed the planet in SA2 against Maria's wishes and that's why he wanted to not only destroy Emerl but even heavily implied he was suicidal after the fallout of Shadow the Hedgehog, because of how he argues to Sonic that no both him and Emerl are weapons and if the people of the world ever want to know peace that they must destroy them which Sonic was shocked by him having such disregard for his own life. This is why when Shadow makes his iconic line in 06 that he'll fight like he always has even if the world does betray him again despite Mephiles telling him of his fate, Shadow's not accepting it lying down like how he would have in Battle to humanity's comfort, but he's also not taking the route of returning to a path of vengeance again.
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 2 ай бұрын
Cream... never met Shadow personally. At least, not as far as mainstream games go. Also, if Rouge means something, like saving the dang Turtle, that could have come in full circle. In my opinion, Amy is, the last minute suggestion.
@Rishi123456789
@Rishi123456789 2 ай бұрын
>Amy inadvertently triggered a dormant memory of Maria to talk Shadow down. It seems that people need to invoke "Maria-ness" to persuade him. I'd argue that not even Amy can do that consistently. Though I will say that Amy and Cream would have the best chances. You are correct and I completely agree with you. Also, in my headcanon, Amy is the reincarnation of Maria and the reason why Shadow acts as a father figure to Cream is because in my headcanon, Cream's father is actually Shadow. And in another headcanon of mine, Cream's father is actually Eggman.
@agentomecha634
@agentomecha634 2 ай бұрын
Dark Beginnings as a whole was phenomenal. The animation and sound design was amazing. The characterization of Shadow was great. And I’m glad that Shadow and Maria’s dynamic were explored more and see why she meant so much to Shadow. The prologue has me very excited to play Sonic X Shadow Generations in a couple weeks when it releases.
@TheWanderingCrow
@TheWanderingCrow 2 ай бұрын
Ian Flynn is a fucking legend I don't care what the haters say
@spmighty
@spmighty 2 ай бұрын
right!? like finally Sonic franchise ain't chasing whatever Mario's doing but leaning into what makes Sonic better imo
@Abner-gu3ve
@Abner-gu3ve 2 ай бұрын
@@spmighty I’m saying. And his writing is good too. It’s been good
@wiilov
@wiilov 2 ай бұрын
Ian Flynn always catchin' flak for the game-design short comings.
@silverstar1614
@silverstar1614 2 ай бұрын
I cant even understand what happened, how is he getting hate so randomly, he is making sonic's storywriting peak again!
@A.R.T.4
@A.R.T.4 2 ай бұрын
Most hate I’ve seen is from Twitter and that’s not even a real place. I genuinely wonder if they want Pontaff back. Ian Flynn has the hard task of fixing the damage they did, coalesce previous lore, and guiding the franchise into new narratives that lean into what makes the series so endearing and he’s been doing by a really good job imo
@RJH755
@RJH755 2 ай бұрын
Studio Giggex should make a full feature Sonic film, they have proven themselves with this series!
@shadamyandsonamylover
@shadamyandsonamylover 2 ай бұрын
Don’t forget, if you get the PS5 version of this game you get the EXTENDED animated short with never before seen scenes. It’s probably why episodes 2 and 3 were short compared to 1.
@RannaRoman
@RannaRoman 2 ай бұрын
Amy has talked Shadow down once, but Rouge herself has actually talked Shadow down several times, both in the IDW comics and in the Archie. Even Sonic has been able to reason with him at times. While I agree that Shadow is stubborn, it was clearly just a plot convenience line imo.
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 2 ай бұрын
And yet, I see that Amy was made as a last-minute decision. You can take her out in the story mode, and nothing can change. Yeah, Rouge should have done a bit more as she has been in the action more often than she does.
@Dairunt1
@Dairunt1 Ай бұрын
I think she can talk Shadow down to anything except Maria and his past.
@fordthelord1133
@fordthelord1133 2 ай бұрын
honestly, they should keep up with shadow side content! I feel like going forward, sonic team could organize their content by making classic sonic content for kids, and modern sonic as a method to introduce new stories and have sonic be carefree and cool going through it, while shadow takes a moment to look into sonic's lore filled past and how the new content found in sonic's games affect the overall story.
@radudumitru3306
@radudumitru3306 2 ай бұрын
so one for the kids, one for the adults that like rich stories and one that expands the lore
@yknowhim912
@yknowhim912 2 ай бұрын
"Unless it's Archie or Fleetway" Meanwhile: Commander Abraham Tower getting his name from Archie canonized
@scr0ngle108
@scr0ngle108 2 ай бұрын
Imagine if they bring back Sally Acorn... The Fleetway version
@nathanielvaughn6728
@nathanielvaughn6728 2 ай бұрын
Imagine if the upcoming DC crossover shows the Archie AND Fleetway Sonics as part of the multiverse.
@bella_daze3092
@bella_daze3092 2 ай бұрын
As someone who grew up with Sonic and didn’t know Shadow’s lore until later, I always thought he was cool. And thought his lore was heartbreaking. But this? This truly recontextualized and reintroduced so many things for the character. And I’m really happy about that. I’m happy that newer fans actually learn about this character. Hell- I remember on my viewing on the second sonic movie, younger kids were explaining the Sonic lore to their parents, and losing their minds when Shadow showed up in that post credit. I lost my ever loving mind when that happened. I kid you not. My parents were old enough to see Sonic back when he was still classic Sonic. So- the fact that I get to explain the war to them and show them the stuff now makes it awesome. And it’s even cooler that Shadow finally gets to be a badass again and have so many things explored again
@ZeroJump
@ZeroJump 2 ай бұрын
The reason this looks so good is because its a short film not a 30 episode TV Show. Budget is a thing (On the other hand the writing can be like this no matter what)
@prufan
@prufan 2 ай бұрын
Plenty of other anime have looked just as good, and some western shows like Arcane. So it's entirely possible to get this quality.
@Caybee1999
@Caybee1999 2 ай бұрын
@@prufanIt’s just all in the matter of whether Sega would put in that extra money for that to happen. I do hope they do.
@ZeroJump
@ZeroJump 2 ай бұрын
@@prufan Sonic sadly isnt big enough for that. Arcane was adult Animation and therefore very different interms of audience.
@Rishi123456789
@Rishi123456789 2 ай бұрын
>Budget is a thing If Paramount made their Sonic movies in the same animation style as the Dark Beginnings episodes, it would cost them LESS money than their live-action nonsense. Plus, it'd look better for most Sonic fans (including me), it'd BE better for most Sonic fans (including me) AND it would make bankrupt idiotic Paramount more money than they already do. Paramount not making their Sonic movies animated is the missed opportunity of the century.
@ZeroJump
@ZeroJump 2 ай бұрын
@@Rishi123456789 Im not talking about the movies Im talking about shows like Prime
@bowserbreaker2515
@bowserbreaker2515 2 ай бұрын
21:21 You do not know how happy that made me. I absolutely love the Archie comics.
@BigSmiggles
@BigSmiggles Ай бұрын
Im so glad that Sega and Sonic Team are starting to be hands off ish with Shadows character he was never a complete edgehog he was damaged, he was traumatised by his past and it should always be reflected on what he's truly fighting for. The memory of maria. I know its a kids game but seeing Sonic slowly come back to the ways i remember it being when i was a child is validating i dont need all seriousness but i fell in love with the characters for a reason and i love that they got Ian Flynn to basically herald this new era of Sonic along with a rocky but clear vision for the future, I just hope this remains as such for a long time.
@faz10do
@faz10do 2 ай бұрын
They are peak and well deserved for people who’ve waited for it to become amazing again
@blackfox4138
@blackfox4138 2 ай бұрын
The 2000s era of Sonic had some pretty bad games. Let's not kid ourselves. However, that's a criticism of the gameplay and production schedule. But what I genuinely love about that era is that it was a time where SEGA was bold with Sonic. They weren't afraid to take the character in weird and dark places, and there was honestly a sense of pride in the character that allowed them to go in these brave directions with him. The 2010s Sonic felt more like SEGA was embarrassed by Sonic, and didn't want to take him too seriously. I'm so happy that it seems like 2020s Sonic will be going back to the more serious shounen-esque storytelling we had back then.
@Philthorn
@Philthorn 2 ай бұрын
First time in years that they did shadow's character justice. It feels amazing
@Razsor97
@Razsor97 2 ай бұрын
I think most Shadow fans can agree that he was at his absolute best in Sonic '06, so it should be refreshing to he his character be written so beautifully after 18 years of hit-or-miss with him.
@garrettviewegh9028
@garrettviewegh9028 2 ай бұрын
No one else besides Maria could talk Shadow down. Sage and Amy:
@chaoschannel3428
@chaoschannel3428 2 ай бұрын
7:42 No joke, that's legit the reason Iizuka gave a while back when asked about the moon💀 Fans were naturally a little peeved about how cop-out of an answer this was. Even if that were the case, assuming this moon is exactly like our real life moon, this moon "changing sides" wouldn't be possible due to tidal locking, which cause the same side of the moon always faces Earth.
@pyrotempestwing
@pyrotempestwing 2 ай бұрын
While I understand assuming a fictional universe is the same as ours except for is the norm, I never understood why that would be the case necessarily. However, working backwards from their moon working the same way, blowing up a significant portion of it would change its physics, would it not? Possibly making it spin faster or slower, thus breaking the tidal lock?
@chaoschannel3428
@chaoschannel3428 2 ай бұрын
@@pyrotempestwing Perhaps? Certainly due to the moon losing roughly half its mass the tides would be affected and Earth's rotation would speed up a bit due to the moon's gravitational pull being weakened by its loss of mass. There's also a chance the moon would now be a bit closer to Earth's and possibly spin a bit faster due to its lessened size so tidal lock could still occur maybe?
@Handepsilon
@Handepsilon Ай бұрын
@@chaoschannel3428 Honestly.... don't worry too much about the celestial conditions of Earth. The planet got cracked just a little while ago and got better within a few days. Although to entertain the possibility that the moon's condition might cause some issue in the long run might be a good recipe for a new storyline or side story.
@bella_daze3092
@bella_daze3092 2 ай бұрын
22:12 you summed up my reaction so perfectly that it’s not even funny. We are so back y’all.
@AutoSonic495
@AutoSonic495 2 ай бұрын
32:33 note here as well, he doesn't just catch and throw the missile, he throws it, then it goes to a camera view Of the missile, then Shadow chaos controls on to the ship to GRAB IT AGAIN AND SLAM IT INTO THE HEAVY DOG, it's just a beautiful masterpiece of directing and choreography
@tbx12frnku22
@tbx12frnku22 2 ай бұрын
As usual, another great video. But regarding the last bit; It's a tough world out there in terms of finding and getting a job so I understand the struggle. I can't pledge myself but I'll try to at least retweet your stuff and share it around. Huge props for your honesty and best of luck.
@olliesidaway
@olliesidaway 2 ай бұрын
That one shot of Shadow in the rocket with his eyes getting wider and wider is something I’ve wanted Sega to do with Shadow for years, show his vulnerability! I understand that people want Shadow to move on from the Maria stuff but trauma doesn’t just let you get over it. It creeps back and taunts you for no reason. Sonic has great memories but still chooses to move forward without them but Shadow WANTS to move forward but no matter what he does (or what the fans want) he will always be defined by that fateful day. That with him forever.
@archieved6749
@archieved6749 2 ай бұрын
You said it all and more about my love for this series. Especially you talking about Part 3. Literally the best 15 minutes of my life. Thank you for spreading the love of amazing art
@SuperAndyACS
@SuperAndyACS 2 ай бұрын
Pup, dude! I love you used the 2nd Sonic X Japanese ending instrumental theme in part 3 of this! It's such a great track!
@IamLegendaryguy1998
@IamLegendaryguy1998 2 ай бұрын
24:22 team dark fighting an egg breaker
@manmamas
@manmamas 2 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: Kirk Thornton also voices Yujiro Hanma in the Baki Dub
@MarioKartGamerDude
@MarioKartGamerDude 2 ай бұрын
Stephanie Steh also voiced Zeena in Sonic Lost World!
@pyrotempestwing
@pyrotempestwing 2 ай бұрын
The best Zeti, imho.
@vladvlad11299
@vladvlad11299 2 ай бұрын
Your videos on the Shadow Dark Begg shorts were really good! I support you being a part time KZbinr and having a job if this is what you feel you need to do!
@SethLyons-wc3wd
@SethLyons-wc3wd 2 ай бұрын
The series was dope. Start to end
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 2 ай бұрын
I love shadow dark origins animation it was really awesome but also sad and super amazing in my opinion.
@abrahammartin4695
@abrahammartin4695 2 ай бұрын
A PG 10+ sonic anime like dark begginings would be sick!
@hydrocityshark
@hydrocityshark 2 ай бұрын
While a little off topic, I love the lighting effects of the water in the Green Hill scene in Speeding Ticket.
@thenobody7509
@thenobody7509 2 ай бұрын
That flashback stuff with maria got to me also. Shadow is just emitting "You entered my home without my permission. Its time i kicked you out." Energy
@natoriousthehopeful2786
@natoriousthehopeful2786 2 ай бұрын
If Studio Giggex was ever allowed to make a full Sonic animé, it would being in SO many new fans
@SethLyons-wc3wd
@SethLyons-wc3wd 2 ай бұрын
don't blame you trying to make a living. I only make enough to pay for college and that is it.
@freechannel1112
@freechannel1112 2 ай бұрын
28:21 maybe the black arms have some connection to the time eater? it would make sense as the time eater was found in space, that and sonic generations as a whole revolves around time.
@Kalex_7
@Kalex_7 2 ай бұрын
The cel shaded 3D model and animation is sick Pup. Good work🔥
@With2Ls
@With2Ls 2 ай бұрын
I love the cowboy bebop parallels I never even thought of that, but it makes sense why I like the animation so much considering cowboy bebop’s one of my favorite shows of all time Also wishing you best of luck with your situation
@begles_893
@begles_893 2 ай бұрын
I wasn't expecting episode 3 to break me at the end. I am surprised that it made me cry
@Dinoslay
@Dinoslay 2 ай бұрын
Same.
@freechannel1112
@freechannel1112 2 ай бұрын
26:20 no joke i honestly see the appeal of Shadow X Amy. and i like how one of sonic's take over twitter is somewhat aware of how some fans prefere that over Sonic X Amy
@math3us420
@math3us420 2 ай бұрын
22:11 never forget this pup moment
@leonsmith4845
@leonsmith4845 2 ай бұрын
Also a point you forgot to bring up. Imagine the general audience seeing this. Seeing what sonic is really all about. It will be glorious as fuck.
@conze3029
@conze3029 2 ай бұрын
7:22 bro no way 💀
@fabio__reis
@fabio__reis 2 ай бұрын
impeccable review, Pup!! i want a subseries of Shadow in that animated style so badly, maybe even a movie
@aethersword7823
@aethersword7823 2 ай бұрын
It's definitely not sonic who asked rouge to invite shadow, it's a surprise party after all, but perhaps tails or knuckles did
@thezackattack5328
@thezackattack5328 2 ай бұрын
Finally, I remember the years when people were pining for Ian Flyn to be head writer for the series after his work in Archie, now after a decade of bad stories he finally is and all these new fans hate him for stupid reasons. Glad to see that some Sonic fans still have some sense in their memory cards 😂
@johanstenfelt1206
@johanstenfelt1206 2 ай бұрын
All of this was a very well done inclusion, I appreciate it. Now, let’s just hope that the Game delivers, it better.
@mahwiiiife408
@mahwiiiife408 2 ай бұрын
Even as someone who isn't knowledgeable on the Sonic series, I had heard about how goofy Maria Robotnik's death was. But watching these animations really sold me on the tragedy of her death.
@akdreamer6497
@akdreamer6497 2 ай бұрын
You're just mad they didn't triple Rouge's eyebrow size
@Eleoness
@Eleoness 2 ай бұрын
What a masterpiece! Tears came up to my eyes during the song part because Shadow realises that he was fated to "die" after completing his "quest" and never live the life he wanted.
@featherguardian6023
@featherguardian6023 2 ай бұрын
Dark Beginnings is a Masterpiece of Sonic Animeated Short, and each either gets better are are Equally Great, as for Part 3, I have to say this was a Good Way to End this Prologue as it was clear that Sonic X Shadow it’ll start on the Ark, as for the Finale love the Animation and Action Scenes, the Characters are Great, hints for the Time Eater, Abraham Tower has moved on from his Past with Shadow that I’m wondering if he’s going to be in the Game, and Shadow shows Mercy, his Mission to Maria, and the Past Tragedy he’s Struggling, can’t wait for the Game.
@scr0ngle108
@scr0ngle108 2 ай бұрын
Black and red characters are often very goated, surprised thats not a look thats been tried for a Superman suit before! Thanks for all the awesome creations you put up, hope the goal is reached swiftly
@erickrafaelfloreslara8501
@erickrafaelfloreslara8501 2 ай бұрын
Personally, i think Rouge is a better pick for Shadow romantically speaking, Amy hasnt really interacted with him that much aside from that time in SA2, and if Shadow does indeed learn to move on from Maria once and for all, then Amy s appeal will diminish a lot. Rouge would make more sense in my mind, she really cares for him, to the point of helping him raid a G.U.N base, no other character is as close to him in the present day.
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 2 ай бұрын
While I feel like Shadow's chemistry with Rouge is stronger than with Amy's due to their time spent together on screen or Knuckles' chemistry with Rouge in an on and off fashion, I feel like it could have been done better in Adventure 2 with Rouge once again convinced that Shadow that his memories were altered after doing her deed which is why she flies after him as Shadow had the similar moment of how the memories flashes from Maria and Rouge back to back, enabling him to run to the alter, which should prove that Amy is a last-minute decision, her only contribution is the multi-player, that's about it.
@bigbrain7406
@bigbrain7406 2 ай бұрын
11:08 just saving my time spot
@ZeroJump
@ZeroJump 2 ай бұрын
36:24 This is not a scale display of the Ark 😭🙏
@Dinoslay
@Dinoslay 2 ай бұрын
The last part with Shadow reminiscing of his time with Maria was unbelievably sad to watch. Truly well made animation short. 😭
@f0ur_G
@f0ur_G 2 ай бұрын
I totally feel your pain with the job search - I lost my job months ago because the company I was working for shut down, and I was made redundant. I still haven't found anything and that footage of you scrolling through jobs you've applied for is a sight that's all too familiar to me too. I'd donate if it wasn't for my situation, but I really hope you gain more subscribers to your Patreon
@TaliesinMyrddin
@TaliesinMyrddin 2 ай бұрын
Literally from "haha edge hedgehog" to the literal best character with the strongest arc in the franchise
@dragonlord6484
@dragonlord6484 2 ай бұрын
I can't speak for everyone but I know I would love to see you tackle some Transformers content!
@mahwiiiife408
@mahwiiiife408 2 ай бұрын
Jerald Robotnik went so unfathomably hard
@spider59er35
@spider59er35 Ай бұрын
Dark beginnings has an animatic version of it as well, sort of like the pre-visualization version of the final product It’s got just enough dialogue to be different, with scenarios that do play differently, despite having the same ending I encourage your reaction to it!
@PrincessLunafan21
@PrincessLunafan21 2 ай бұрын
Great video, and very interesting review
@jessesanabria2462
@jessesanabria2462 2 ай бұрын
44:33 i just realized the blue falcon used the same partical beam cannon move from the game. Its hype seeing old mini bosses from Shadow05 i cant wait for the new game to be out!
@axelwoni.m.8940
@axelwoni.m.8940 2 ай бұрын
Honestly, the first thing I'm going to do when I get Sonic X Shadow Generations on my PS4 is just rewatch Dark Beginnings (probably a few times), as well as all the deleted scenes that are supposed to also be included I'm just glad that they are finally starting to include these animations in the games (would be better if they are included in all versions of the game though, even if I was always going to get the game on PS4)
@ZACKMAN2007
@ZACKMAN2007 2 ай бұрын
The rocket scene really got to me.
@Dinoslay
@Dinoslay 2 ай бұрын
During the flashbacks I could feel the pain in Shadow’s heart.
@MrTragedious986
@MrTragedious986 2 ай бұрын
Out of all the shorts SEGA has released, Dark Beginnings is my favorite.
@Star.6739
@Star.6739 2 ай бұрын
Oh look a new video
@brickzoneanimations8395
@brickzoneanimations8395 2 ай бұрын
No Worries Pup I Understand you got bills to pay and you need all the support you need unfortunately I cant donate to your patreon but I can give you an Idea How about a channel membership? you can give out early access to your videos for those who have a channel membership and give out shoutouts too and not just from your patreon, great video by the way I always look forward to your reviews wether its on Marvel, DC or Sonic!
@yeeyeeyeeye
@yeeyeeyeeye 2 ай бұрын
Unrelated, but bro I feel you on the job search. I spent an entire year looking for one to get out of a toxic fast food work environment. I just landed a new job a couple of months ago. I can't really donate on Patreon, but I'm commenting so that hopefully the algorithm picks this video up. The job market is horrible out there and the entire process is demoralizing, but I do hope you find success. Related, I loved Dark Beginnings and I'm honestly so glad that SEGA is actually taking Shadow's story/trauma seriously for once. Ian Flynn revitalized the Sonic franchise, and no I do not accept constructive criticism.
@krisp923
@krisp923 2 ай бұрын
2:25 This is because we americans are special ❤
@magical_pixie_horse7346
@magical_pixie_horse7346 2 ай бұрын
32:28-32:33 Actually, Omega missed the missile and it was heading for Rouge in the control room.
@TwoTailedSponge
@TwoTailedSponge 2 ай бұрын
I'd love to see Sega,Paramount and that company who made the animated films go and make a full 2D animated movie. I feel that the live action actors a LONG deserved break.
@sanicthehedgehog6346
@sanicthehedgehog6346 2 ай бұрын
amy reminded shadow of what maria said she didn't really talk him down
@SupremeSR
@SupremeSR 2 ай бұрын
Okay so I think Rouge’s squeaking sounds is coming from her boots. It’s the material she wears and I’ve worn those types of materials that tend to squeak when they come into contact with any surface…. It’s some type of latex which seems that her boots and gloves are made of for that “sexy” vibe.
@Dullsonic3
@Dullsonic3 Ай бұрын
"I call dibs!" -Omega
@DaveSwitch7
@DaveSwitch7 2 ай бұрын
"The story is just flavor text (Generations)" - Channel Pup playing Magic: the Gathering confirmed!
@son-of-1810
@son-of-1810 2 ай бұрын
Honestly I always thought that Amy would be something of an annoying sister to Shadow, even then I don’t think she would be able to consistently talk him down. I do think Shadow finding family and friends through Team dark and even Sonic and the others is great, in a way where Shadow would never admit it that he sees them that way. Good video
@AllardRT
@AllardRT 2 ай бұрын
Between Edgy the Hedgie getting what is basically his own game that is said to be about as long as the main Sonic Generations game (seriously, Sonic x Shadow Generations feels less like a Sonic Generations remaster with a Shadow mini-game thrown in and more like Shadow the Hedgehog 2 with a Sonic Generations remaster tacked on) and this incredible anime that FINALLY portrays him the right way after almost a decade of being the stock fRiEndS aRe fOr wEaKLiNgs asshole rival, it's incredible just how back we really are.
@SanicBoi
@SanicBoi 2 ай бұрын
People bringing up politics as a reason to not like someone is one of the most stupid things I’ve ever seen
@Cositrus
@Cositrus 2 ай бұрын
what is the background instrumental music called at 46:11
@magical_pixie_horse7346
@magical_pixie_horse7346 2 ай бұрын
12:24-12:32 As of episode 3, might wanna take that back.😅
@lamboking8able
@lamboking8able Ай бұрын
The sonic movies allowed this so I'm not complaining
@Caybee1999
@Caybee1999 2 ай бұрын
I have never felt this emotional towards Shadow before. This miniseries was absolute perfection! Also Pup, I upgraded my membership to your Patreon from $5 tier to $10 tier. Hope that helps you out. 😊
@ZeroBeat1
@ZeroBeat1 2 ай бұрын
This leaves me with two questions: 1. When are we getting the full Supporting Me remix on the official Sonic channel? 2. Since we have Stephanie Sheh as Maria, that means there's a high likelihood that Johnny Bosch is voicing someone somewhere. Who's he gonna be?
@lantan8022
@lantan8022 8 күн бұрын
This is 3d? Wow, we truly live in the future
@dranoradragonqueen1494
@dranoradragonqueen1494 2 ай бұрын
I realized latter that it could be black doom he is worried about surviving not Garold.
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