Dark Side of being Chinese Indonesian

[@utuber88018]

To the Chinese in general, to be wealthy is a ticket to escape unjustified discrimination by whoever and by whatever reasons. Chinese had learned their lessons in history well, and therefore reality and pragmatism are in their blood.

[@Hendra23155]

Very true. Chinese are also some of the most pragmatic people I have ever met. I am seeing this in Jewish community as well

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

but when they have the power, theyre the one who discriminate others.

[@utuber88018]

@@rizkyadiyanto7922 Be specific.

[@danganrompa2626]

​@@utuber88018he can't be specific because he just talk non sense. Please save your day and don't listen to the trash above.

[@wheresmyeyebrow1608]

Amazing to hear from your experience It's good to know that with exposure to other cultures Chinese families are altering their own 'styles' to find a median Thank you for including the translations in your description btw!!!

[@Hendra23155]

you're welcome my friend! thanks for stopping by :)

[@faelismaegnus]

Hello, from Cajun country, U.S.A. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, culture, views, and experiences in English.

[@Hendra23155]

Glad you find it insightful my friend! :)

[@matthewhartman7176]

I know this comment is a over a year old, but I want to dispel some assumptions that my fellow Americans might entertain. The majority of Southeast Asia speaks English as a second native tongue. These regions were heavily colonized by the Dutch and English before they respectively gained independence.

[@GeoffryGifari]

From your experience, are there things that distinguish chinese indonesians from the broader chinese diaspora?

[@Hendra23155]

@@GeoffryGifari I can tell by the “vibe”. I don’t know how to put this in words, maybe it’s the mannerism and the way they dress. I will have a think and post in future video

[@matthewhartman7176]

​@Hendra23155 I've literally heard my Chindo wife echo the same words here. She says she can always tell a Chindo lady from how "big" or "loud" they dress. Thankfully, she's a bit more low-key. Maybe living in Singapore has something to do with that? Good times. 😂

[@Hendra23155]

@@matthewhartman7176 hahahaha. "loud" dress" that's probably the words i am looking for!

[@kevinwijaya9613]

As a fellow chindonesian who just recently started my journey in australia, I find this video to be very refreshing.

[@Hendra23155]

@@kevinwijaya9613 please let me know if you have any questions/help settling in Aus. I will do my best to help 🙏

[@kevinwijaya9613]

@@Hendra23155 how do i contact you? Honestly, i'd just finished my regional work for my visa extension (462). Currently planning to take a road trip from bourke to sydney to melbourne while stopping by various places like the blue mountains, nan tien temple and grand pacific drive. Where are you based in?

[@Hendra23155]

@@kevinwijaya9613 sorry just read this, you can contact me via email in Chanel page, hendrayou@protonmail com. I am Sydney based, please let me know if you need assistance

[@matthewhartman7176]

My wife is Chindo, living in Singapore and I'm an American with all the associated culutral implications. I can most definitely say my wife is way more money-orientated than I am in the broader sense of "rich=happiness". It's not that I don't understand the importance of wealth and generational wealth. Contary to popular belief, Americans also have to hustle to make things work. We're unique in that cultrally Western regard in our hyper-capitalistic society. Rather, it's that I feel I have a bit less rigidity and fixed beliefs around how to achieve that than my wife does, who tends to see those pathways as more narrowed and prescribed. I am NOT critiquing my wife. She is a really beautiful, kind, and caring person inside and out and a gem of a partner and wife. I'm a lucky man. I'm just here to express my observation of the topics being discussed in this video from a insider/outsider perspective. When I buy a coffee I don't count the cost. Whereas my wife counts it down to the cent. I'm a video editor, she's an accountant. 😂 We both make a decent income.

[@Hendra23155]

thanks for sharing your observations my friend. True, Americans are outliers when it comes to attitude towards wealth and hustle compared to Europeans or Aussies. She is an accountant, counting down to last cent is no surprise here haha.

[@jodylowe]

Thanks for sharing😊

[@Hendra23155]

@@jodylowe you are most welcome, thanks for watching :)

[@jodylowe]

@@Hendra23155 no thanks

[@kazi1]

Great video

[@Hendra23155]

Thank you my friend :)

[@熊唯嘉]

I think a "national mindset" really depends on the socioeconomic situation the said nation is in. Today in the People's Republic of China this kind of hustle culture is also quite prevalent, some may say it is being intentionally promoted, in workplace. But a culture of radical egalitarianism among the working class never fades away; after all, decades of communist revolutionary movement didn't end in vain. By the way, we don't forget about the miseries we endured past and present; we remember and learn. 蓄芳待來年！

[@Hendra23155]

yes history is a great lesson for us. Thanks for stopping by :)

[@baamonster2]

when they say kuli, they mean coolie right? like imported chinese coolie labor back 100 years ago?

[@Hendra23155]

yup that's right, someone doing back-breaking work .

[@jeffbansos8106]

dark side being chinese Indonesian : 👲🏿 bing chilin

[@stpetersburg]

thanks Hendra I am curious as to why you left Indonesia ?

[@Hendra23155]

@@stpetersburg initially I came to Aus for study. I never consciously plan to leave Indonesia. I am used to Aus way of living and build my life here (young family, work)

[@matthewhartman7176]

​​@Hendra23155 You do you. Make a happy, healthy life for yourself and your family wherever you can. Economically, there's no comparison between a place like Medan and Australia. There's way more room for economic growth in the latter. Perhaps even in places like Jarkata.

[@ProjectMujaddid]

Wow, Chinese culture has so much in common with Cuban culture - your family talks, focus on money, education, and success, boss vs bullied sound exactly like Cuban culture. Including familial shaming, but yes these definitely are effective because the Chinese people I've met are consistently the highest performing and most educated, and Cubans have completely taken over Miami.

[@Hendra23155]

wow that's news to me! never knew Cuban and Chinese culture have something in common, thanks for sharing my friend :)

[@ProjectMujaddid]

@@Hendra23155 I appreciate that. My family has always spoken highly of and respected the Chinese, and has a long history with the Chinese in Cuba; at many family gatherings we would share stories from Cuba, from before the communist revolution in Cuba, and I thought I'd share this one with you my friend: my great grandfather was of Spanish decent, and was a judge in the government - he witnessed how the Chinese suffered persecution from corrupt Cuban police who would regularly abuse them and fabricate charges against them. The Chinese were very hard working and well mannered people, and my grandfather wasn't going to allow the police to harm them anymore - when a Chinese man was brought into his court for more persecution, he punished the police and protected the Chinese community. This was unprecedented, and very risky. My grandfather used to carry a revolver after that. He didn't expect anything from it, and did it to do the right thing - but after that the Chinese community would always bring gifts of food to our family, for years afterwards. I heard about this story over many family gatherings, even decades later our family still remembers the good manners, honesty and hard work of the Chinese in Cuba. It is quite special, because today people are friends or even family for decades but forget all the good and might break apart over one small thing - it is very rare to find people who remember the good, even for many years. And this is the sunnah in Islām, in fact many of these good manners are also in Islām, though sadly many Muslims don't practice it today - may Allāh guide us. May Allāh bring friendship, cooperation and goodness between our peoples Hendra.

[@Hendra23155]

@@ProjectMujaddid what a story! Thanks for sharing this story my friend, Insya Allah peace reigns among peoples

[@umidazimi3706]

You do think that the spectre of the Chinese being used as middle men in Colonial administrations has also contributed to a negative perception of Chinese Indonesians? Also not converting to Islam.

[@Hendra23155]

Maybe, 350 years of colonialism will surely leave traces. I can’t really comment on not being Muslim is a factor, though converting won’t hurt to assimilate into society mainstream.

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

chinese muslims (mostly Hui people) actualy was the one who helped spread islam in the archipelago, a long with arabs and indians. Cheng ho / zeng he was one of them.

[@recycle8894]

its even more shameful not standing up to those dark forces behind the Chinese discrimination - you have grown old but not wise !!!

[@Hendra23155]

Yeah none is going to jail for May 98 riot. Every minority in every country knows they’ll experience casual discrimination one way or another. It’s up to us to speak out and stand up for ourselves

[@matthewhartman7176]

What a mean-spirited comment. You don't know what this man believes nor what struggles he incurs in his life, just has he doesn't know these things about you. And yet here you are mentioning wisdom.