Dark Souls 3 Lore ► Father Ariandel & Sister Friede

I'm confident we've finally talked about all the major lore points in the DLC. These last few videos weren't super fun to make, but i'm glad they're done.
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[@Titanic_Tuna]

1:05 "Failures like you!" I bet you've been dying to use that one.

[@pablohierro9894]

right in my feels

[@bentalbot4278]

Predator Warlord it wasn't

[@francoscalamandre1231]

I can feel related sometimes at least I m not alone

[@leroylim1554]

*TRIGGERE* XD

[@Es-zb8vu]

Bruh nice Saber pfp

[@baileydunn7653]

Don't try and make me feel sorry for that 3-phased pain in the ass.

[@carlosjf504]

My heart broke when she stood up for the second time. BUT FUCK ME WITH A TELEPHONE POLE IF IT DIDN'T FEEL GOOD WHEN I FINALLY BEAT HER SOLO!!!

[@baileydunn7653]

In fairness it definitely had to be one of the better and more challenging fights in the game

[@StressedGamerBR1]

Waaayyy harder than Nameless King.

[@NordicNer]

I would neither call it a good or challenging fight... Her moveset was just copy & pasted from Maria of the Astral Clocktower, making it little more than a reskinned boss, ergo easy to beat if you had played Bloodborne. Speaking of reskinning, her whole aesthetic too was just taken from Priscilla.

[@baileydunn7653]

I mean you're not wrong, but her aesthetic has to be reminiscent of Priscilla because of her character, I mean would you rather fight a reskinned boss that looks like priscilla or some strange Russian crow who's into BDSM and bashes you with a bowl of soup

[@wakkaseta8351]

Day 256: Vaati still wants to go to Londor.

[@ScapeVEVO]

Day 256, Entry Number 2: 99.99% of the Dark Souls community also want to go to Londor

[@mad-counter7393]

Yes, enough about Londor. There are a ton more important aspects to explore that actually need it.

[@Commander_Spyke]

I'm just happy that Velka wasn't mentioned at all in this video. Getting kinda sick of Velka speculation

[@blue12393]

yeah like im fine if they go to londer but the whole dark soul of man thing either has to be the main focus or a side focus in the next dlc because they have never told us enough about it

[@HM4Hill]

it beats the Ashen Hollows obsession with Velka

[@UndeadMetalfan]

I always thought that Vilhelm wasn't protecting the silver-haired girl in the attic. He kept her prisoner so she couldn't paint a new world. Because, when there's a new world, the old one is no longer needed and will burn away.

[@Shane-un8pe]

That's what it seemed like to me

[@fernandofaria2872]

You are correct. Vaati made a mistake. Thats why she leaves to the chapel, because you opened the door for her, as she says.

[@legion4902]

@@fernandofaria2872 Or this poster may be wrong, remember, darksouls lore is about interpretation.

[@VGamingJunkie]

When you beat Friede's first phase and Ariandel lets out a scream of pure anguish, that's definitely a "Prepare to Cry >" moment. He certainly deeply cared about her, to the point that he forsook his own world and purposefully shook embers around, setting everything ablaze, all in a desperate bid to save her.

[@cemebaby]

Simp

[@tObito687]

we all make mistakes in the heat of passion

[@e2rqey]

Even he could not resist the desire for a big titty goth gf

[@tylerhouseknecht4400]

The last time I showed up this early Gundyr was still a Champion

[@chrisdonish]

lol, good one.

[@cptbaguette]

lmao

[@THExRISER]

Nice profile picture fellow SupCom player!

[@anierikidemona]

3 years later.... Last time I was this late the fire had faded and the bells tolled.

[@mildlymaliciousbanana2700]

Same, I’m quite early

[@matthewgaviola8885]

Fans: *“Hi Miyazaki, can we get a side quest with a heartwarming ending?”* Miyazaki: *”No. How about a boss with three phases?”* Fans: *“Umm…”*

[@LordKEK]

1:07 I mean yeah.....but you didn't have to say it :(

[@danielrezadilla9615]

yeah :(

[@mehmetcaneren4042]

I also felt a little awkward when he said that...

[@ledzeppelinfan1001]

Pussies

[@mrbioshock783]

Mama didn’t raise no bitch

[@cantoxii6016]

yea I felt that shit

[@EverTM]

I realized something watching this video. I realized that my enjoyment of the buried story that lies within these games comes almost exclusively from watching Vaati's videos. I realized this when he mentioned the bell, and that Wilhelm finds it strange you arrived without it's tolling. Then he mentions the bell lies buried in the snow, and that Elfriede may have had something to do with it. I would never have made that connection on my own, but knowing it makes the world of the game so much richer, which makes me enjoy the game so much more. You have a gift for telling stories, Vaati, and thank you for giving me so much more enjoyment from a game I already loved so much.

[@VaatiVidya]

+Ever TM that was really nice for me to hear, thank you for sharing. Merry Christmas!

[@EverTM]

VaatiVidya Honoured that you responded :D This makes my night. I have so much respect for what you do, and truly appreciate the beautiful, eloquent and cinematic work you've done over the years. All the best, and Merry Christmas!

[@theverysupercman97]

What if the Lord Shards in Dark Souls 1 are actually the fragmented Dark Soul.The Wiki says otherwise but if you think about it, it does explain a lot. 1.)The Four Kings are in the Abyss which is related to the Dark Soul. 2.) It explains the whole undead curse thing. The Lords Souls aren't meant to be fragmented 3.) Gwyn would never give a piece of his ''holy" soul to anyone, especially a Dragon(beings who he despise) or humans(a race who he think is profane). 4.)Maybe what we call Humanity, are just smaller fragments of the Dark Soul. 5.) How the heck would Gwyn be able to fuel the flame with his already fragmented Soul. 6.)For Gwyn soul, it says that he bequeath some of his "power" ,not pieces of the soul itself, to other "Gods"(not depraved dragon and four evil human kings). Notice how all non Lord Soul bosses have there own complete soul despite them all being tied to one of the four lord souls.Maybe whoever controls the Lord Soul can distribute the power of that soul to his or her underlings. Maybe everyone was given a soul(that are tied to one of the lord souls) that could receive power(aka souls) from one of the four Lord Souls. 7.) Gywn's Soul is still whole. 8.) The furtive pygmy is dead, so the Dark Soul has to be somewhere.

[@Bando710_]

7 years later i gotta say you worded this perfectly brother you said what most people feel when watching his videos, he absolutely deserves all the subs and support he has!

[@CarbonFive7]

im trying to let the flame fade but this player keeps kindling my bonfire!

[@georgsturm7957]

Carbon xP the cinder27?

[@CarbonFive7]

some say the Cinder27 ganks at pontiff

[@Daltany]

I heard TheCinder27 once defeated an entire coop group with a single blow!

[@anevilstripper6095]

I heard, the Cinder27 challenged Giantdad to a pwning competition, and that's why we have respawning.

[@kylercoleman4591]

Step one to defeating Cinder27: load the bass cannon.

[@connormagatogia6866]

Aria: "The dark soul of man"... Hawkwood: "Gives me Conniptions".

[@mrmensje1]

"failures, like you" *cries errityme*

[@Rayfireful]

when he say "failures like you" me : okay '_'

[@markgoimon]

lol

[@xPooogle515]

Raka Pratama "lmao truu"

[@EldritchBee]

My theory is that Vilhelm is actually retired, but was so devoted to Freide, that he refuses to leave her side and is just chillin there without her knowing.

[@brendanrouth3807]

Vaati is going to riot if Londor isn't in the next DLC.

[@rynemcgriffin1752]

Brendan Routh cough cough

[@hamil3115]

Well, this is awkward...

[@jamomurphy2901]

oh shit, who gon tell em

[@finessawoo2258]

Jameson Murphy Sr wait I wanna know

[@nathanielneal6213]

Uhhhhh

[@t.h.mcelroy6597]

So, here's my take. When she was still living, Elfriede attempted to usurp the flame, but she was defeated by the Soul of Cinder (or, depending on how old she and her sisters actually are, by one of the previous lords of fire) and was turned to ash. Eventually she returned as unkindled ash, and just as you (the ashen one) lost a great deal of who she once was. Once, she was the great Elfriede, but now, she is simply Friede, a shell of her former self. In this state of depression and emptiness, she found her way to the land of the forlorn, the Painted World of Ariandel. Here, Friede found a place she felt she belonged, and so, she made it her home. Before her attempt to usurp the fire, Elfriede dismissed her most faithful companion, Sir Vilhelm (presumably to protect him), gifting him that Onyx Blade as a symbol of her favor. I can only assume that Vilhelm stayed out of her conflict with the Soul of Cinder (or whomever controlled the fire at the time) out of respect for her wishes. When she returned as Friede, the unkindled ash, Vilhelm found her and stayed by her side as she traveled to Ariandel'e painted world, his loyalty to her having never faded. But here's the hearted breaking part...she doesn't remember him. After returning, Friede lost most if who she was, including most (if not all) of her memories of Vilhelm. Thats why he waits outside the church, why he still calls her Lady Elfriede, and why she never acknowledges his death after you defeat him. While his love and loyalty to her never faltered, he means little more to her than his value as a servant, especially after finding the painted world and creating a new life there. Thoughts?

[@lizard___4425]

Hi, late ds3 player here. This sounds so perfect, i love this theory and i think it could be like that!

[@TH3B1RD]

I always got the feeling that Friede dismissed Vilhelm from the church and as a personal guard but gave him the sword as a parting gift, and that Vilhelm still follows Friede out of respect, not duty-bound.

[@ponglenis9273]

I agree, but SoC is the incarnation of everyone who linked the fire, so she most likely lost to the soul, probably even gwyn himself

[@SeriusSim]

This sword was very dear to her because it's focken OP

[@Dylangillian]

i don't care where the next dlc is, i just want to fight that abyss dragon.

[@TheManWithTheFryingPan]

what if it's Kalameet?

[@mazatiestos]

Then we would kill him, again...

[@Dylangillian]

The man with the frying pan that wouldn't make sense because kalameet is know as the black dragon or the bringer of calamity and has 0 connections to the abyss.

[@Lil_LiIy]

no, kalameet, was a everlasting dragon, but lost his scales and got infected with the abyss. just looking in the game files, you can find the kalameet as a Everlasting dragon with stone scales of immortality.

[@TheManWithTheFryingPan]

well i'll be damned

[@DGGRevolution]

How thick do you supposed the clamp is on Vilhelm's throat to produce that ungodly voice?

[@malasadas6967]

DGGRevolution That, and i would assume combined with a sore throat because it's so chilly there

[@burntgrahamcracker2866]

I'm pretty sure this just his voice I've seen the guy before who voices him. He was in the witch, the IT crowd and he played Charles vain in ac black flag

[@xPooogle515]

Mal Asadas The image of a knight in a frozen hellhole with a cold is incredibly funny and charming lol

[@malasadas6967]

skrrrt "Sister Friede dosen't wan't you here, Ashen. Leave at once. Wait, before thous't leaves, spare a cough drop?"

[@Eon2641]

I already liked Villhelm but this little exchange gave me a whole new head canon that I'm in love with. No wonder he's so irritable.

[@Yal_Rathol]

i find it interesting that the only soulsborne protagonist with the power to actually change anything is the guy who's literally too weak to even be functional kindling for a fire. this is a guy too shit to even be a useful meat shield, and he's the only one to ever alter or end a cycle. i enjoy that duality.

[@mechagreat9105]

Yal Rathol well not really, your right bit also wrong. the curse was made by nature or the cycle in a way to end the age of fire, gave humanity the means to power but they had to find it and the drive to achieve it, they aren't exactly weak

[@Yal_Rathol]

MechaGreat the cycle of light and dark happened because of gwyn. the undead curse and the cycle are a perversion of the natural order, it's just that nobody could figure out how to break free, until aldia. aldia and vendrick knew how to break the cycle, they were just too late and never got the word out. then you stumbled across the solution by accident. and not humans being weak, that's not what i said. the good hunter of bloodborne is a human, and they slay gods in their off-hours for fun. no, UNKINDLED are weak. they are people who tried to set themselves on fire _and failed because they don't have enough stuff to burn_. the weakest of the soulsborne protagonists (the good hunter, the chosen undead and the bearer of the curse are all significantly more powerful than the unkindled) is the only one to break or alter the cycle.

[@mechagreat9105]

Yal Rathol sort of wrong again. Evidence sort of shows the cycle was a thing before, first age of ancients, than of fire which would've been followed by age of man but gwyn resisted thus the curse arose to give man a chance to fight for there age

[@mechagreat9105]

Yal Rathol And the unkindled are weak, if anything they just weren't strong enough, that doesn't mean they were weak. the flame requiered greater and greater force each time.

[@Yal_Rathol]

MechaGreat ....the age of ancients was timeless and eternal. there is no "before" the age of ancients. the age of fire happened spontaneously. the first flame just appeared. the first flame should've died, creating an age of man. gwyn got scared and burned himself, extending the age of fire and creating the undead curse. now, the world is trapped in the cycle of fire and dark, unable to move on because of gwyn. this is information provided by aldia and the first game. where am i wrong? and more to the point, where am i wrong in saying that the unkindled is the weakest soulsborne protagonist?

[@andrewbowen2837]

Today's been a damn good day. I've beaten Nito and got through that hell known as the tomb of the giants, went and saw Rogue One, and Vati made a video

[@tomasdelcampo2]

nito becomes a bitch when u use pyro. Was star wars any good?

[@andrewbowen2837]

Tomas Del Campo yeah man, it actually was. It explains some holes in the original six episodes

[@daraghmaclachlan8906]

Keith Stone Was Rogue One good?

[@andrewbowen2837]

***** it was

[@hogdoctor8693]

Pixel Wizard No, a huge disappointment honestly.

[@Oops-All-Ghosts]

Re: Vilhelm, the sword explicitly says he was relieved from Elfriede's service. I think it's more likely that while he no longer officially serves her (which is why she never acknowledges his presence, even after you kill him), he still follows her around like a spurned puppy and attempts to eliminate threats to her. It may even be that she forced him to leave her service, once she decided upon this path, hoping that he could be happy within the Church (turns out he wasn't; he showed up in the painting, after all).

[@DOCTAxSWAG]

probably my favorite thing in Dark Souls is its voice talent. It's a shame we won't get more Vilhelm and Father Ariandel because I loved theirs so much

[@coleviloria3800]

One thing for sure, Vilhelms' VA is damn good, I wish we could have that as a voice for the Call Over emote.

[@Evision5]

Him and Eygons VA are pure ecstasy.

[@captaindonut5240]

Along with the VA for Oceiros, Siegward, Irina, Gael, Emma, Yoel, Anri, Patches and Greirat. They hold the most emotion in them, others are sometimes a bit monotone. Cool voices still, but less emotion.

[@imdorgat]

I'd still rather see more about the Profaned Capital and its namesake flame. We know almost nothing about that area, and it plays a very big part of the story. AoA gave us a reasonable amount of extra info about the Sable Church and Pontiff Sulyvahn, possibly enough to get a decent idea of the early history in Anor Londo, but we need to know what drove Pontiff Sulyvahn to do what he did. Furthermore, it'd be awesome to see the DLC's compound with each other. The Profaned Flame is often associated with the Dark Soul, so perhaps we'll continue the story of Aria and Gael there. Maybe even Liliane might show up in search of it too, and it would give us a much better narrative than just going back to Londor, which is probably just New Londo.

[@mephistophelesthesilentchi3446]

Mr Dorgat agreed, that place really does need some expansion and depth, the journey to yohrm could have been so much more than a three giant ladders and one tiny bridge...

[@KanonMulticraft]

The Eleonora says the oracles of the Profaned Capitol are relatives of a "Certain oracle" (the only other oracle being the Daughter of the Abyss, Alsanna). My theory is that the Profaned Flame is the remnant of the Old Chaos that has been tainted by the Dark/Abyss after centuries of Alsanna praying over the Old Chaos in Eleum Loyce. (the Profaned Flame is tied to the Dark according to some item or spell descriptions).

[@GAMMAGAMR]

The lore and story behind the Profaned Capital is there, it's just very hard to see, but yes some definitive answers would be mint

[@andresarancio6696]

Kantelope Huh, could it be that the Profaned Flame is to the Flame of Chaos or the First Flame what the Deep is to the Abyss? A corrupted version of it? If that is the case, it feels like there is little difference between it and the Chaos, with the exception it seems to destroy life rather than create it

[@scott_chocolate]

I have a theory for Pontiff Sulyvahn's motivations, but this theory requires buy-in on the identity and history of Velka. So, I'll start with my Velka theory: Velka's full name is Velka Darkmoon the Goddess of Sin. Thusly named because she (as The Ashen Hollow theorizes) is the original heir of the Dark Soul, the Furtive Pygmy. She is the goddess who originally created the Blades of the Darkmoon. A covenant which she named after herself before her son Gwyndolin assumed command and she vanished from Anor Londo. Gwyn is the father of the Firstborn, Gwynevere, and Gwyndolin, however the Firstborn and Gwynevere have a different mother than Gwyndolin (possibly the goddess Fina). The Dark Sun Gwyndolin is thus named after his Father (Lord of Sunlight) and his mother (Darkmoon). Gwyn sacrifices himself to link the flame before Gwyndolin is old enough to ever know his father (see Hawkshaw’s amazing timeline video). Velka remains in Anor Londo long enough to raise Gwyndolin as a daughter. Some supporting evidence: -- Velka is described as a witch and possessing a great deal of influence as far as gods are concerned (Vow of Silence) -- Gywndolin's magic is strengthened by Darkmoon power and he was raised as a girl due to his affinity with the moon (Crown of the Dark Sun and Moonlight Robe) -- Velka’s pardoner’s and Blades of the Darkmoon use Velka’s Book of the Guilty. -- Velka’s pardoner, Oswald of Carim, stands in the bell tower in a pose that the player never acquires. (He does teach the player the gesture "Well! What is it?" that is slightly similar to his idle pose, but is an entirely different pose and motion.) Velka’s statue in DS3 is doing the very same pose as Oswald in DS1 with only one arm as her other arm is busy holding her book (of the guilty presumably). We have no way of knowing what the name or purpose of this pose is… But, it looks just like an inverse Praise the Sun to me. I’d call it Praise the Darkmoon. -- Yorshka says the Blades of the Darkmoon were led by Gwyndolin. She does not say they were created by him. She also says that she inherited leadership from him which could imply that he was only Captain of the knights.

[@kianklen4750]

Regarding Vilhelm being relieved of duty, I always thought that him still being around means that he is now freely choosing to follow her, perhaps out of loyalty or even love. I like to think the later.

[@sarcasticotter]

"Failures like you" We didn't need to be called out like that T_T

[@moonmops8758]

I Hope that the next DLC returns Fang Boar Helm

[@propastypete1958]

Moon Mops I honestly wouldn't even mind if the next DLC was just a DS1 fanboy throwback, even if it made no sense. Just throwing Solaire in, the family masks (especially the fathers of course) and so on. I know this is ludicrous but LET ME DREAM DAMN IT.

[@moonmops8758]

Propastypete the only that needs to happen is to let us make our own maks-add like a workshop or something if they can't put in father mask or maybe get someone to mod in father mask n just download it like retexture into giantarmor :)

[@propastypete1958]

Moon Mops Don't forget 'Well, what is it?' because 'Welcome' just isn't cutting it.

[@moonmops8758]

Propastypete my god how did I forgot I WANT ALL GESTURES EVER from ds2 n ds1 especially ds1 point down and look skyward,shrug as well.

[@propastypete1958]

Moon Mops Also to enter the DLC you need a Chaos Zweihander+5 and 2 stacks of black flame.

[@yungvidya]

let it die souls-like video when?

[@PVWNSVCR1F1C3]

yung maestro who are you?

[@andrewbowen2837]

yung maestro wait, I know you...

[@imtheparty12]

ily star platinum

[@farmsalot1233]

Shadows don't die

[@NamePending878]

@@farmsalot1233 no, they die twice

[@yourdarknessawaits3895]

Don't make me feel sad again when seeing Ariandel He's such a kind man :( Asking you nicely, worried about friede and he goes insane when u take her from him And he's litterly hurting himself for this

[@theiberianbadger0123]

I absolutely love your lore videos on the souls series games. You are my go to source for interpretation and knowledge of this series. Your videos are ever so beautifully put together. A merry Christmas to you as well

[@GreenlandicGuy]

Vaati, you never dissappoint. Good work yet again. Love u ❤

[@muhammadhamzajaved9297]

A very Jolly Merry Christmas to all! and you too vaatividya 😃

[@CallMeOGS]

Anyone know the name of that vinhelm??? guys voice actor? His voice is a gift to this world

[@Doomchild2XL]

I'm convinced it is Ralph Ineson, but I haven't been able to confirm it. I love Father Ariandel's voice also. Two stellar performances.

[@natewitecki7826]

MAH FLAYEILLL, BREING MEH MAH FLAYEILL!!

[@reallifeoctane9293]

OGS IV he sounds like Garl Vinland

[@titaniumursa]

FREIDE! WAT STOOPS THYNE EEEARES!!!

[@donkeymanusa6364]

Vilhelm's got a voice of beauty

[@clutchbert9960]

These are always fun to watch, with plenty to look at and a lot to get you thinking. Great work man.

[@DragoonPaladin]

Thankyou for all your Lore videos, it's my first time playing Dark Souls, and I would have missed so many NPC quests! Your voice calms the rage of this game too!!

[@the1ghost764]

I have never play a Souls game in my life but I Love ❤️ these Lore series from Vaati. Great storytelling.

[@carlosjf504]

LMAO Imagine how good he'd make other game's stories.

[@slimcognito5764]

Christian Velasquez Unless you enjoy pain, this as close to experiencing Soulsbourne as you'll want to get.

[@carlosjf504]

Kurt Adams Guess I worded it wrong. What I meant to say was that he makes games that we would otherwise not be interested sound great. As I have never had any interest in the pokemon games therefore have never played them but I would watch the shit out of Lore videos with Vati narrating them.

[@Deathdevil3347]

LUL, your first comment actually triggered me a bit. Good to see you didn't mean that DS has shit story.

[@HeartlessSeph]

I took the line about Vilhelm being released from Elfriede's service to mean that he was released before she went to Usurp the Flame. He then goes back into her service when she becomes unkindled.

[@matthewschlieben5398]

Dude, you're the best. Love what you've done for this community, it's beyond the call of duty for souls fans. Keep it up! You add so much to this game and you make my experiences so much better, tenfold.

[@ShurikenSapuku]

Amazing work! Love your videos. They should come as companion pieces to a special edition trilogy set.You really have a way of exploring the depth of the lore. Keep up the good work!

[@Legion640]

Say Vaati, ever think about making more videos for Bloodborne? I finished my first playthrough of it recently (absolutely outstanding it was) and I binge watched all of your videos on it and it really helped understand the fantastic story behind it. I'd really like to see more videos on it since you mentioned doing a Prepare to Cry for Maria and perhaps Ludwig.

[@velkielle7587]

Van Bur3n seconded.

[@xPooogle515]

Van Bur3n not gonna happen unfortunately :( Vaati got bored of the game I guess. It's a shame. I also personally found the story of bloodborne more compelling and it's a shame we won't be getting more lore from it from him but I guess I can't expect everybody to love things as much as I do haha. If you're interested, maybe check out Jerk Sans Frontieres! His videos aren't theatrical presentations like Vaati's but he and his pals discuss a lot of smaller details about Bloodborne and how they relate to the greater story. They're about podcast length and I enjoy them for what they are

[@Gardensartoria]

Van Bur3n if you're interested though, youtubers like JSF, Mitch L, Redgrave, and many others have many videos on the topic. Redgrave also wrote a bit of a novella on it called "The Paleblood Hunt" that you can search up and read for free

[@Tommykee999]

friede's feet

[@carlosjf504]

I know right, gives me a hard on. (I've never played Demon's Souls) Reminds me of the maiden in black's feet.

[@scylax7669]

wat... Oh. I'm gonna leave now.

[@carlosjf504]

Naruto Uzumaki Oh yeah ;)

[@reallifeoctane9293]

tommy tran Elfriede my waifu

[@tobymcgroby8967]

You are seriously great at these lore videos, you speculate, you don't take anything for granted, & best of all, you invite other theories from fellow undead like us. Vaati, thank you for your full decade of thorough, well done content on these incredibly interesting games. I truly believe the SoulsBorne series is as successful as it is partly because of the hype & love for this series you bring out of us all. Thank you for this, we will continue to support you with our quiet resolve✊

[@ethansouls77]

I really appreciate the upload, hope everyone stays safe over the festive season

[@epicgamer2727]

I honestly think that the emphasis on blood, combined with the Aldritch thing about "a future of deep water" (or something like that) is probably a small thing that ties the souls borne games together (just my thought I'm probably wrong)

[@jacobkern2060]

Not to mention, the Pthumeru capital city was called Ihyll, which is suspiciously similar to Irithyll, Aldrich's home. Perhaps a corruption of the name, as we saw with New Londo and Drangleic respectively becoming Londor and Drang.

[@mad-counter7393]

They're in different universes.

[@timpennington6966]

I never made that connection to be honest, Drangleic is Drang.

[@cptbaguette]

I didn't make the connection at first either, but then i noticed how the Drang Knight armour looked a lot like Llewellyn armour

[@Hollow_McHollow]

at last. much love vaati

[@thejamman4070]

I love these lore videos! Thanks for lore hunting Vaati.

[@maki__roll]

got dark souls for christmas going back and watching some of your videos just to catch up on the lore of it all so excited

[@paper7771]

When vaati uploads a video **kreygasm**

[@walrusking653]

Sort of surprised that this is not a prepare to cry

[@lawlypooper]

Wolfantyne Odds are it's just an unfortunate overlap.

[@nathanberner7725]

Your videos go up in quality with every upload. Keep up the good work

[@yarugatyger1603]

I'm watching some of the "older" videos and I find it very comedic how vehemently you are wanting a Londor dlc, as you mention that idea basically every video multiple times.

[@thedarknightnicht]

Father Ariandels Voice Actor is amazing!

[@kaimamoonfury1335]

I also wonder, in reference to the importance of bells in the souls world. What relevance the bell you ring in archdragon keep has, it transforms everything and summons the king. What, if any, similarities might the king and the unkindled have?

[@psypsynos]

Thank you for the videos they are very nice! and your voice fits in explaining dark souls so nice

[@cheeseboi856]

Merry Christmas to everyone here in the comments and to you as well, Vaati! Can't wait for your next lore video and I anxiously await your "Prepare to Cry"!

[@KotauFPS]

Probably the thing that interested me the most in this DLC was the particularly crazy living tree at the frozen lake, below the church and past the two giant crabs, guarding someone's corpse. Too bad that there aren't any hints about that besides whatever the corpse was holding, which I believe was just its soul(s).

[@arstotzkanatthedmz4486]

Kotau there is deleted voice files that it was supposed to say. It was crying about someone kidnapping their child. Maybe sullyvahn took someone with him from the painting?

[@slimcognito5764]

Arstotzkan At The DMZ Or Sullyvahn himself was taken forcibly. The Snap Freeze description mentions that he left because he was forlorn, but the description didn't say how.

[@roriksavant]

I believe it's hinted that she's Sullyvhan's mother, as she cries over one of his sorceries.

[@rizamboi2776]

"failure like you" the only time i happy to be called failure cos in the end i become legend instead

[@snowcrash404]

thx man, merry Christmas...this was a great year on this channel

[@Holly1000]

Another great video. Hope the final DLC closes out the whole soul of man/furtive pygmy mystery. Happy holidays/merry Christmas!

[@Cafaura]

Vaati notification. *drops everything and runs* yes!!!

[@JediMasterRevenantMADNESS]

I really hope the final DLC is, in fact, Londor.

[@shadowviper4822]

MADNESS it is...

[@JediMasterRevenantMADNESS]

Shadow Viper Where's your proof, kiddo? What's your source?

[@shadowviper4822]

MADNESS I know a guy... that's actually all I can say...

[@shadowviper4822]

And if your gona go on a rant how that's not good enough, can it wait till tomorrow... it's 2am and I'm kinda sick and I just wanna go to bed...

[@JediMasterRevenantMADNESS]

Riiiiiiiight. Sure, kid. Sure.

[@CLoneWarrior85]

Merry Christmas Vaati, and let your (and our) wish to go to Londer come true in the new year!

[@vatti6493]

Thanks for all the work you do Vaati. Have happy holidays majestic man.

[@Bakalar]

"failures like you" the feeling when vaati knows more about you than your parents. :(

[@asmbeanman]

Your view that Father Ariandel is interpreting the prophecy to his liking doesn't sit well with me. The Father and Friede very clearly fear the prophecy coming true, and there isn't really any reason for them to make an optimistic interpretation of this passage.

[@VaatiVidya]

+Aaron Metayer but what's the other alternative?

[@12er5t7y]

The alternative I suppose is that as he is mortally struck, he finally comes terms with the truth or inevitability of the prophecy.

[@olivercrow2582]

I think that in an one last act of despair, the Father consumed and twist the fire he protect so he could pass it on to Friede preventing its alight and reviving her. Usurping the flame in a way, that is why the flame turns black, cus it was supposed to consume the Father and the painting not be consumed. That what he means by saying "Thou'rt Ash, and flame befits thee, of course..." he twist the prophecy trying to contain the flame to alight on the world, and letting it alight Friede instead. But you kill her and liberate the flame. What is a great parallel to the usurping of the flame in the outside world, and her own relationship whit the Church. That is the way a see it.

[@chrisv4496]

+Aaron Metayer By the way, the word you were looking for is "interpreting", not "interrupting". He wasn't interrupting anything, he was interpreting it.

[@AvantirMardrakYihn]

That makes quite some sense. It would also mean that when he speaks, he is speaking to Friede, not to us. i.e. when he says "thou", he means Friede.

[@hiob8566]

Merry Christmas Vaati! A great video. Thank you! When i was watching you videos about which way the DLC could take, i was very sure that you are right with one of them... Well, we saw you wasnt. But i am sure again, even the time could repeat, that you are right with them for the final DLC. Thank you for all you vids over the year and best wishes for the next one.

[@darkslidedavid]

I don't know if you'll read this but I think this is one of your best videos in a very long time. I've been watching you for such a long time and I haven't heard a more concise and well thought-out series as what you've done with the DLC. really great job thanks for always creating so much great content for us. I also appreciate the humility with the DLC predictions, it's hard to not be wrong when you do so much detailed research into a game so deep.

[@MMMM-vq1yr]

Art imitates life imitating art imitating life.

[@jemijohnson257]

Let's get that 12 days of Soulsmass

[@joemetzgar7419]

Thanks for the informative video Vaati. Very lucky to have subscribed to you. Keep up the great work man.

[@7DaltonDoms7]

Top Quality as always, well done and live well.

[@Giltia]

I do think the idea of Londor being the final DLC is probably pretty likely. After all, Uncle Gael needs to bring Adorable Painting Girl the pigment for her painting. The Dark Soul of Man. And where better to find men than in Londor. Land of hollows. I mean, I guess we have our own Waifu of Dark, Karla, but I don't see her getting much use in a DLC when she's a permanent addition to our base of operations. So I feel it's more likely we're going to classic Dark Soul territory, where the Beef Jerky roams wild and free.

[@mad-counter7393]

People keep saying Londor but they'll be disappointed when it's not. We know almost everything about Londor aside from if Kaathe is alive. Londor does *not* need to be DLC2's focus. Pontiff Sulyvhan, the Profaned Flame/Capital, Aldrich, the Deep, and the Angels are faaaar more vague and should be explored.

[@ProfoundChair8008]

Giltia it'd be cool to see Londor as a more fucked version of lordran, particularly the undead burg and the immediate areas surrounding the burg, or at least similar to it and we like, see old firelink but its revamped and not crumbling and where frampt is is a statue to kaathe and idk, im hoping for like a full circle with it cause anor londo is there, why not firelink or even the jail tutorial level

[@SerenDark]

I suspect that the Deep and Londor are closely tied and that we'll get both together.

[@Bhubnipz]

DLC2 is going to be the last segment of the Dark Souls story from what the creator has said. While those mildly interesting points could be expanded, Dark Souls doesn't answer all the questions you have. Ever. It seems far more likely that they would chose to end Dark Souls where it started, in a place with some meaning like Londor, instead of wasting the last bit of Dark Souls story to explain some low-level shit like where the Profane Flame came from.

[@JayWalkZ]

Bert Hubnip Miyazaki said it was the last one for him, but if they wanted to do another one then he wouldn't say no. Meaning there could very well be another dark soul game just like dark souls 2. (Which I prefer to be honest)

[@luisdeleyendas]

"I've seen your kind, time and time again. Every fleeing man must be caught. Every secret must be unearthed. Such is the conceit of the self-proclaimed seeker of truth. But in the end, you lack the stomach. For the agony you'll bring upon yourself" That's just Miyazaki DIRECTLY telling everyone "Stop with the lore analysis. Stop going through every single little detail. You won't uncover anything. I left it as vague as possible. You're only wasting time. And if you uncover anything, or come up with a theory. You'll think 'that's it?' And then everything will be ruined for you." And that is awesome. (Btw, I do realize the ironic nature of this comment, but hey, it's still fun)

[@EuanM1912]

I agree

[@drunkpikachu1952]

i found this channel one day randomly and i gotta say it is the freaking best keep the good work !

[@diegowandega3747]

merry christmas! keep doing your amazing work in 2017

[@meltedcheese1511]

I still think Gwynevere should be a boss in the next dlc

[@traxdata1100]

what's the ost?

[@meltedcheese1511]

I can't remember where he found it, but it was basically a darker toned version of the ost in Dark Souls when you speak to her illusion. I thought it would've made sense to put her in the Painted World. I suppose a boss would be too much. I just hope we learn what, ultimately, happened to her. The story of Gwyn and his descendants are interesting and Gwynevere is the only one where we don't learn her true fate.

[@darklurker1239]

Impossible to beat since most players would be looking at her chest not her attacks.

[@kohth5027]

dose any know father Ariandel's voice actor I though Oceiros had a cool voice but damn this guy knocks it out of the park

[@icydimensions3475]

Thank you kindly for all your hard work.

[@patriciofloresgarcia7200]

Merry Christmas to you too Vaati.

[@zorklordvader4511]

I hope we can visit londor on the second dlc, that would complete the most of the lore and it would make me happy

[@carlosjf504]

I wanna fight Flame God Flann, nobody takes my waifu.

[@x.arybdis502]

Good Loser then figth with ocerios

[@carlosjf504]

Emre Kara It's not confirmed that big chest ahead was the Queen of lothric or if it was just a descendant. it's only speculated and not told as it was with the Nameless king.

[@robo3007]

And fight King Jar Eel (the New Londo boss cut from Dark Souls 1). I can dream.

[@x.arybdis502]

Robin Powell no we need to fight with velka and liliane

[@spangledangle1487]

Please do Gravetender great wolf and Champion... that's all I ask Senpai.

[@dreamdrop6655]

Marry Christmas to you as well, VaatiVidya!

[@casseith]

Your voice is truly soothing. Also, amazing content, thank you. I didn't even finish one soulslike game but I absolutely adore learning about lore, it's not so spoilerish for me as I will probably not finish any of DS games... Well, maybe you just inspired me to start again with DS1 remastered. ;) Those vids are perfect, gloomy atmosphere, tone of voice I have already mentioned and bliss of swimming deep in pure sweet information. Thank you!

[@uglygoblin4786]

In Irish mythology one of the oldest deity is called Dagda ("Good Father"). He's a god of fertility and one of his attributes is bottomless cauldron. Although Dagda is one of most powerful and potent deities in Irish pantheon, he is often depicted as clumsy and overgrown. Just saying :)

[@Wyrm1310]

Love Vaati voice. :3

[@StressedGamerBR1]

IKR?! Such a calm and soothing voice. So nice to hear.

[@skurinski]

you're cute Leon

[@Gecko_Papa]

merry christmas from germany. its so relaxing to watch your vids great job

[@ShardofManus]

2:17 - Of all your editing mastery Vaati... this was quite the "faiwyure" on your part.

[@Niemandzockt]

You can tell who is destined to be great by looking at their face. i.ytimg.com/vi/LzWWoG0C1ns/maxresdefault.jpg It might be good we don't see Anri's face

[@KG-bg9qb]

Fuck yeah vaati just uploaded! Where the hell is my lube and tissue paper?

[@reef_xyz_1235]

Can't wait for Vaati's content next year

[@quinnminos1809]

always a delight vaati when i see you post :D

[@rongomez5918]

taking a while with that 2nd dlc From it's almost as if you guys are working on another game 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@xv3598]

winslo o They said they had 3 other projects.

[@DuskAndDawn21]

winslo o sadly they always have a lot of projects at once, and their dlc are usually pretty big.

[@stoffan00]

I really hope they add a ton of armors from dark souls 2, I really hope, we need more fashion souls!

[@jayjasespud]

I just read the description and I'm sorry to hear there wasn't much enjoyment in making the DLC videos.

[@dravenacarter]

Merry Christmas man! Great video and by the way. I don't know if it's just me but I'm really hoping this next dlc will be a bit longer and have a bunch of things to wrap up the lore in dark souls considering this is the last dark souls game, at least for a long while I believe.

[@bandiriatraveler8343]

What if they make a spinoff game that takes place only in a painted world that isn't considered dark souls?

[@wakkaseta8351]

Paint Souls?

[@bandiriatraveler8343]

K.A.W _ Paint world

[@wakkaseta8351]

PaintBorne "...We are born of the brush, made men by the brush, undone by the brush. Our eyes are yet to open..."

[@summersasquatch]

"Tales of the Painted World"

[@Splicer011]

William Fry scribblesouls

[@gayveryy]

What is the second track used? It's not in the desc.

[@BariH1990]

Almost a million subs... Vaati killing it