Dark Souls Lore - Navlaan

Dark Souls Lore - Navlaan
This video being 13 minutes long is a nice coincidence.
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[@KaNoMikoProductions]

Navlaan kill? Navlaan will.

[@HisMajestyWalrus]

Underrated post.

[@chibimirrorknight]

Navlaan Feel...

[@clyde34]

I was about to post something similar :D

[@sephimaru2198]

Best comment ever.

[@Yoroiful]

***** Hahaha

[@StinkyPoopyMcFartFace]

I mean come on who doesn't want to pull back a lever that it says "don't you dare"

[@Skellahead122]

Navlaan wheel navlaan deal

[@XRandomXShinigamiX]

but would Navlaan deal if Gavlan deals? If so, Gavlan could also wheel and Navlaan can deal?

[@ClovissenpaiDotR]

Lonesome Navlaan :(

[@gabrielraboy5359]

@@ClovissenpaiDotR He's not lonesome if he has multiple personality disorder

[@IrishmanN7]

I miss when dark souls 2 was the big new From title. I love it.

[@avangard9461]

aahh, old memories of my favorite game ever!

[@dceasedbrickfan74]

Agreed! Still love it to this day!

[@Z3Milesky]

@@dceasedbrickfan74 yeah my favorite Dark Souls game cuz this is the only souls game I have :_( ~insert crying black man template~

[@shroommush4034]

I came up with a theory a while back that Navlaan is the old inhabitant of the Majula mansion. For a start, when Navlaan's dark practises were discovered, his entire village got executed. None of Majula's original inhabitants (except maybe Shalquoir) are still living there. There's also the library filled with books, a typical trope of sorcerors. Lastly, there's the skeleton in the basement. Navlaan was a necromancer. And, of course, Cale touched Navlaan. That's how he got the key to the house. I do not believe that Navlaan is Aldia. I believe that he was not actually executed (that was just a cover story). He was taken to Aldia's keep to work for Aldia. I don't know if Navlaan got his alter ego while he was in Majula or while he worked with Aldia though.

[@rahulverma8774]

I really like ur theory .....it seems well connected ...... according to vaati ....there were also some books in majula mansion ..tht r normally found in grand archieves ......... n i think tht made navlaan an op sorcerer

[@m3t4lmancer]

First time meeting Navlaan. -Sees the "pull back" messages in a pile and is filled with burning curiosity and rebellion -Pulls lever -Talks to Navlaan and hears him say "Now I can pursue my mark." -Immediately thinks "He's talking about me!" and kills him -Wears his hood like an insane person and goes on to kill everything in Aldia's Keep

[@calibrationsrequired7655]

K MT It sounds like the evil comes from his clothing based on that story. New lore.

[@lnenke2195]

I literally did the exact same thing

[@kishinasura1989]

We all did that the first play though

[@dceasedbrickfan74]

Majula was the village. He owned the mansion. His original body is the one hanging in the well…

[@RazorIsEpic]

Navlaan's voice is so damn menacing

[@BishopHavel]

I don't care who Navlaan is, but if he's as powerful a sorcerer as everyone thinks, it's good that he's locked away. One less wizard to worry about.

[@chibimirrorknight]

fite me irl rock i'll rek u m8.

[@BishopHavel]

I will rock you, sock you, pick you up and drop you. You cannot stop the Rock m80.

[@chibimirrorknight]

m8 in dark souls 2 all your followers went to the dork side which is mine you cannot win against the dork. PS: you will "suck" me ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I'm ROCK hard right now. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@MrSuvvri]

Bishop Havel just imagine if he would invade you in full havel set with like 30% equip burden spamming all his shit and having health like Licia lol.

[@thomasmussmann8321]

Silver Mont he was all good with me untill he tells you to kill the emarald herald

[@ddangho914]

I think I even heard of a theory about Navlaan being Alva the Wayfarer. The theory is pretty long, but if I am to sum up the important details it goes something like this; Alva the Wayfarer was trying to save his beloved Serreta from her sickness, but he failed and Serreta passed away. Because of this, Alva who once had an unwavering faith, lost trust in his gods and started learning sorcery and hexes from the beautiful Black Witch Zullie, who was once an adversary trying to ruin Alva by seducing him, but later became a faithful supporter to him (maybe even becoming a new lover). With their combined effort and knowledge of sorcery and hexes, Alva created the hex Scraps of Life to unleash Serreta's soul and meet her once again, but the hex did not work as intended. Because of the act of casting the esoteric spell, Alva and Zullie, along side the towns folks who either supported or witnessed the ritual were executed . However the tale doesn't end there, as Alva alone survived because he just happend to be a hollow. After losing two woman that he loved, Alva became even bitter to the world, but he did not give up. He renamed himself as Navlaan (reversed, it becomes Na ALVA N), and used his knowledge of sorcery and hexes to join the court of Drangleic. He became the royal sorcerer and worked with the King's brother Aldia so he can continue his research of the art of resurrection, and this time resurrect his beloved. This last hopeless and reckless attempt unfortunately failed yet again, and it back-fired, splitting his soul into two, creating two different sides of himself; one being the once noble knight Alva who wishes imprison himself forever from the outside world, and the other being the bitter and hateful sorcerer Navlaan who now uses his vast knowledge of sorcery and hexes to spread death and agony, for he thinks it is the only act that the gods had allowed him, just like how he has done all along. I found this theory rather interesting because it curiously ties two characters that don't seem related at all, explains why Navlaan sells Zullie's Black Witch set, and what his hexes' true purpose might have been. Hopefully the Scholar of the First Sin will give extra hints from the new updated item descriptions and NPCs.

[@SilverMont]

Muji Interesting theory!

[@chibimirrorknight]

Alright... You got me! Kappa

[@manmanboyboydudedudeguyguy2800]

Muji dark souls 3 ruins this theory

[@rahulverma8774]

Great theory but ur explanation of name changing frm Alva to Navlaan didnt made sense 😅

[@1012samus]

Hmmmmmmm good turned bad? Burdened with the obsession of immortality and resurrection? Once part of a supreme court? Navlaan is Anakin Skywalker XD

[@unsubme2157]

good thing we have the high ground

[@TheBreaker3333]

Damn... Navlaan sounds like Tyler Durden in some ways

[@SilverMont]

TheBreaker3333 For real!

[@Haztheweener]

Navlaan reminds me of Logan after he went crazy and insane. After all, they both were great sorcerers who lost their sanity after discovering a potentially ancient magic power

[@Mars-ge7oj]

10:50 physically pained me

[@chungusamongus69]

i love navlaans dialogue, he sounds so demented its awesome :D

[@SilverMont]

Sir Swaggington That he does! A talented actor, for sure.

[@13012able]

cheeky symbols on the coat. kudos for the artwork!

[@DerpfaceTachi]

I love how the symbols on Navlaan's hood are texting faces

[@SilverMont]

S'cool, huh!

[@Numguk]

I pretty much see Navlaan as the Doctor Jeckel and Mr. Hyde kind of deal, very much similar to what you said. Aldia, I feel, fused various souls, and his own, to become the Ancient Dragon we see on the Dragon Shrine.

[@SilverMont]

Numguk I'm still not really sure what to think about the Ancient Dragon / Aldia

[@MaereJaneMan]

Navlaan reminds me of Kaathe. And his quest for immortality reminds me very much of the Art of Lifedrain. Could be nothing, but if everything cycles over and over again, I could see something from the Primordial dark coming back to influence a human looking for power.

[@agamemnonofmycenae5258]

+The River Wolf Kaathe was still alive during DS 2

[@Kucoz]

I love your stuff. Been playing Scholar of the first Sin and this is getting me all hyped to get back to Drangleic

[@StairFacts]

I love those emoticons on his hood.

[@tiredeyes333]

Good to see you lore digging again! Also, 9:50 was amazing LOL

[@Usagi33353]

I was a little hesitant about Navlaan's missions to kill but when he said to kill the Emerald Harald, I was like NOPE BYE IMMA BEAT THE GAME NOW!!!!!

[@blackheavymetalman]

***** when you get to the dragon eerie you get her feather to give him

[@Usagi33353]

blackheavymetalman well I didn't think about that.

[@lightningandodinify]

you don't have to kill anyone to finish his missions.

[@67nyny]

***** I agree with u for 2 reasons,1:I'm not killing my waifu(that's just personal) the woman who lvls me up on a daily basis without complaining not even once,gives me her magic sunnyD again without complaining and finally for this 1 reason with subtopics, she is always always ALWAYS the first person I see in Manila and personally that's a breath of fresh air. Reason 2:there's just a way to do his quest without killing even a single target and u won't have that guilt on u and a maybe high sin count

[@Drekious]

When I got the mission to murder the Emerald Herald, I got pissed, opened the door, and killed Navlaan instead. It would have been funny though if his death dialogue would've been "Was it something I said?"

[@CorsairJoshua]

Oh god Silvermont is back to doing lore videos?! He's not even a LPer anymore. I subscribed just for the LP's!! Nah but seriously great job, Alex. Navlaan always seemed like an interesting fella.

[@SilverMont]

Corsair Joshua I've always tried to do a mix of videos, haha. I get bored and burnt out, if I just do the same thing!

[@cmeehan11850]

nice video man keep up the good work

[@thisguy187]

Silver Mont Hey Alex you deserve way more subscribers and views. You have really enjoyable videos. And your voice... omfg it is amazing lol. You are pretty much the reason I bought a PS4 just based on your videos and game play. Keep it up man

[@SilverMont]

Thanks man! Glad you're likin' da videos.

[@falx94]

I liked the idea of Navlaan being a catalyst. I never picked up on him casting without one, though the only time I released him was during my first playthrough of the game back when it first came out. I also think it's a really cool theory that Navlaan perfected resurrected and was exiled for it because that's a nice roundabout way of explaining how he came to share a body with the Royal Sorcerer. I always found it a little weird that he just sort of "came about" through experimentation. I've gotta say I'm very much enjoying this channel, you speculate without it seeming to be pulled out of your ass and you don't really super heavily on item descriptions i.e. telling us what we could already glean from just playing the game. And you take the time to respond to comments quite frequently. Definitely worth my subscription.

[@SilverMont]

falx94 The new item descriptions that came with Scholar of the First Sin seem to help support this theory too - it did away with the one problem I mentioned with the theory (the chaos rapier description) and assuming Navlaan still doesn't use a catalyst, that wouldn't hurt my other theory! Although I've not seen if he does or not yet, but apparently they did fix a few things like that (supposedly Felkin now uses his intended weapon)

[@JackIsWriting]

Monty knocking it out of the park again! Cool vid.

[@SilverMont]

JackOnlyByTheNight Thanks!

[@highlightermarca-texto3281]

What if the Royal Sorcerer read up on Navlaan while he was going insane developing his new sorceries? So his split personality just ended up mirroring what he read.

Silver Mont You are absolutely right, Silver! They corrected three descriptions in Scholar of the First Sin: the Chaos Rapier, the Chaos Shield and the Chaos Hood. The first two erase the problem you pointed out at around 8:15. They read the same, as follows: "Once, a brilliant young sorcerer cast away his earthly desires, devoting himself entirely to the Dark that bewitched him. Nebulous, inky and serene, the Dark holds an allure matched only by the fear it strikes in men's hearts. Could it be nature, holding a mirror to mankind?" They removed the doubts/mysticism around the tale and they removed the name of Navlaan, implying that the Royal Sorcerer is NOT Navlaan. The Chaos Hood, to me, gives a small hint as to what this Nadalianesque idol was: "Hood worn by a chaos sorcerer. The man claims to have sealed himself away, but who's ever heard of sentient magic? It is no doubt difficult to judge the veracity of the man's words, but his hood definitely seems to possess an unusual power." Maybe this "ashen idol" was the chaos hood itself? The "sprinkles of blood" could represent the outfit he was wearing upon his execution? I think we have enough evidence to say that the hexer Naavlan was executed as a heretic, a necromancer who tried to restore the banned art of resurrection. Somewhere around the same time, a promising Royal Sorcerer, failing to obtain power through "traditional" means, became enticed with the the dark, maybe because the dark was inside him all along, and an experiment merely brought it forth, but nonetheless, Navlaan was ressurected in spirit, semi-occupying the Royal Sorcerer's body. Naavlan wanted to fully control the body and tortured the Sorcerer through murder and through power demonstrations, in hopes that the Sorcerer would stop resisting and surrender to the dark strength he yearned, so that so they could become one: Naavlan, The Hexer. Desperate, the Royal Sorcerer locked himself away and warned everybody, when he found out what Navlaan had been doing in his sleep. Bearing this regret, he remains locked till this day.

[@SilverMont]

João Carrilho Oh, nice! I actually missed that when I was looking through new item descriptions (Maybe I don't have the Chaos Rapier!) But that's pretty interesting to know, and it kinda helps support my theory on him haha

Silver Mont I think it's as close to canon as you can get :3 PS- here's a post with every single change: www.reddit.com/r/DarkSouls2/comments/2vlcoh/dark_souls_2_compendium_sotfs_update/

[@aresdotexe]

I think Navlaan IS Aldia. Or at least was. I'm almost certain the theory that the Ancient Dragon is Aldia is wrong, I think Aldia fused a giant's soul with a petrified dragon egg in an attempt to bring life to the egg to birth an everlasting dragon, but because it was a giant's soul, it was imperfect. I think Aldia's experiments went wrong and he was fused with Navlaan, and in order to protect others, Aldia sealed himself inside his own keep in order to keep Navlaan locked up. This could explain the monsters "Aldia" created, that Navlaan was actually the one dictating the experiments that created them. This could explain why there is a unique blue fog wall that's seen nowhere else in the game, that it was conjured by a unique sorcery created by Aldia.

[@alexjuve2858]

Why do people insist that Aldia even exists in the time we arrive in the game ... he could have been long gone ... hollowed like vendrick and killed by someone who arrived before us to Aldia's Keep ...maybe Navlaan killed Aldia!

[@SilverMont]

aresdotexe Yeah, I'm open to the idea of Royal Sorcerer being Aldia, but I'm also open to the idea of AD being Aldia haha. I'm not convinced on either, but I could potentially see either being the case, really. It's not something I feel too strongly on, though

[@aresdotexe]

Silver Mont To me it just doesn't make sense for the game to let you find a petrified dragon egg, and the AD to drop a giant's soul if the AD is Aldia. You'd think it'd drop a more unique soul, like how Old Dragonslayer has a unique soul, even though he never had a proper lord soul.

[@aresdotexe]

Alex Juve We rarely have ZERO contact important, named characters in the Souls games, I am certain we've had at least a small amount of contact with Aldia at some point, he's just too important.

[@idowatiwant9]

Been thinking this for ages, I'm glad someone else isn't going around screaming that aldia turned himself into a dragon. Aldia as Navlaan makes way more sense.

[@TheElshagan]

I have to agree with what you were saying about Navlaan n the Royal Sorcerer being different people. Due to the fact that Navlaan never refers to his body as "My body" or "This body of mine" but only ever as "Vessel" meaning it's something he has possessed. Now on the account of the armor set, this can be explained by the fact that Navlaan is obviously a murderer or assassin and people would begin calling the Royal Sorcerer for Navlaan even when the Royal Sorcerer was in control. Meaning this unknown chaos sorcerer could of taken on the name Navlaan cause well that's what people would call him anyway. In terms of his thirst this can be simple explained as thirst for adrenaline, he thrives and thirsts for the adrenaline involved in a killing. Which is why he continues to attack us, fighting us gives him this thrill, this adrenaline. But I feel that the reason he gained this thirst is the same as serial killers, the rush of adrenaline involved with the killing, the taking of someones life. The power over life and death, holding the fate of his victims in his hand became like a drug for him, and by having us kill for him. He gets a tiny bit of this drug, the power of holding someones life by his hand. Not the same as killing someone himself but it works for a bit.

[@alexanderquintanal3156]

is it odd that i let him loose everytime i go in newgame+ , he so mysterious and fun to fight

[@MagnaOmerta]

I'm usually not a magic user as well, but I like to dabble in the dark arts.

[@ashura9699]

I am obliged to call you a scrub

[@nuissance8600]

I can see you are a fellow gray Jedi. Hail brother

[@MagnaOmerta]

+FriendlyMerc 23 hail

[@simonhansen3403]

Is there any possiblity that you will share some of your builds with us? Love your lore videos, keep them coming!

[@SilverMont]

Simon Hansen Most of my builds aren't too interesting, haha. But yeah, if you want to know about any of them, I'll let you know what I can remember about them.

[@goldenruhl246]

I think they were trying to work with resurrection in aldias keep. reason why that is because the ancient dragon soul can be acquired using the Ashen mist heart. also you get a giants soul instead of the ADS. also where would you get the body to resurrect it? well theres a stone dragon where we kill the big NOPE and its safe to assume that was once a dragon, not a statue. also some fantasies have it where spiders can kill dragons, trapping them. Dragons were known to live in the area ash lake. so take that the first part of the game looks like ash lake but closer to the surface. could they have ventured further in and found the ancient dragons corpse? if so they brought it back to life. now they have a Half dead dragon that cant really move and plays a false god. during the Resurrection of the Ancient dragon maybe Navlaan found a person who was perfect for him during that crucial moment and invaded his soul. making 2 into 1.

[@twilightsparkle75]

What do you mean we do not know what they were trying to do in Aldia's Keep? Their main goal was to bring about the Age of Dragons once more, which is why the area has the large skeleton of the Dragon which temporarily reanimates an attempts to attack the player and why the areas boss is a Wyvern, and leads to Dragon's Peak Aerie which is full of dozens and dozens of Wyverns, as well as the only succesful dragon they really created, the Ancient Dragon which gives you the Ashen Mist Heart, the Muse was also born here as she is atleast partly infused with Dragon blood.

[@12isaletter]

You know I never thought about it like The Royal Sorcerer and Navlaan were two different people, I always assumed Navlaan was just hiding who he was.

[@SilverMont]

12isaletter It's possible, of course! I just came to this conclusion from the research I did

[@chibimirrorknight]

OK, I'll help a little... ehem. The "two different" people are : The Chaos Sorcerer (who created the pyromancies) The Royal Sorcerer (who created hexes) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@khalek666]

i believe the object becomes then known as a phylactery or in the case of harry potter a horcrux, turns the caster into a lich essientially making them unkillable. the only way to deal with a lich is to destroy the item then kill it

[@TheYYellowmamba]

In my playthrough of DaS2 I ran this greatsword build and everytime navlaan invaded I would just rush up and smash his face in. I would just be like, why do you even try navlaan?

[@StevDoesBigJumps]

Strange eerily malformed creatures.. The forlorn could be part of that group. And well the skin color of navlaan/royal sorcerer could mean that he's a fenito as fenitos are linked with the dark, and what better place is there for a spirit to rise from than a crypt/catacombs.

[@Wulfy294]

Could you please do something on Alva? I know not much is directly told about him, but it's fun to hear peoples unique theories. I was hoping I could here yours.

[@SilverMont]

Wulfy294 I'm not sure if I wanna cover Alva or not, but it's something I'll def keep in mind!

[@Wulfy294]

Thank you, hopefully you decide to!

[@StairFacts]

Also, I think the reason he has such an urge to kill is because he might be trying to seek vengeance upon all of humanity for killing him and his village. Maybe we should take into account that Navlaan sought to resurrect the dead for reasons other than selfishly preserving his own life? Perhaps someone dear to him had died, and when he sought to bring them back from the grave, his efforts were halted in the execution of his village.

[@SilverMont]

Painis Cupcake (Fuck you Google+) So hard to know! Navlaan never really gives us any good reasons - maybe he doesn't remember what happened before he was executed, so he's left with an unexplainable resentment against humans, or somethin'

[@deltarion7238]

bring people you dear back from the grave... if that is true navlaan makes me think of pinwheel from Dark souls

[@matiolinomatteino]

great video as always! I agree with you about the last thing you said :D but I think he never knew about the presence of Straid in Drangleic (he is the mighty sorcerer you were talking about, right?)

[@SilverMont]

matiolinomatteino Naturally! Straid would knock him silly ways of sideways, if he thought to challenge him, I bet!

[@matiolinomatteino]

:D hahahha Straid is a beast!

[@alexjuve2858]

Silver Mont IDK man that homing scraps of life hex is the most OP spell I have seen in the game

[@matiolinomatteino]

Alex Juve game-wise Navlaan is more powerful than Straid, but lore-wise Straid would won anytime against Navlaan

[@TheElshagan]

Who's to say Navlaan even knew about Straid or his existance depending on how old either character is. If Navlaan is "younger" then Straid it could be explained by the fact Straid was locked away and that "humans" have a limited lifespan so he eventually died and only legends remain about Straid. Other side is that Navlaan is older then Straid and well never knew of him to begin with. matiolinomatteino I will agree with what you said in terms of power. On the other hand power isn't everything, Straid doesn't appear to me as the strongest sorcerer ever known but more as the smartest sorcrerer ever known. Why? Well he invented Lingering flame which is basically begging to be used in a clever way. So while Navlaan is stronger overall, I think Straid would beat him any day game-wise, Lore-wise or just for the hell of it. Just by being smarter then Navlaan and utilising his magic smarter.

[@mrnasty6682]

I know this is a old video.....but watching this I have a epiphany....can the royal sorcer be eygil? My toughts: 1) he isa chaos sorcerer and give us one of the most powerful Pyro in the game..also Eygil is called a magus, but only Pyro we know of him...so maybe eygil is a fire\chaos sorcerer (I have to thanks a reddit post for this connection)2) in the description is mention "how could be possible That a sorcery can have a will on its own?" and in a Pyro made by eigyl is explicitly stated that he wanted to grant fire a will on his own and that he made experiments in that way; 3) is a royal sorcerer so he used to work for a king, but I can't remember that Vendrick had a group of magus that work for him.... The Iron King instead have a lot of sorcerers, magician and astrologers that work for him, so the king in question may be the OIK (if a remember well the astro set itself is sold by navlaan in Softs, and you can find astro only in the Iron passage ).... I know that those are all speculations, but those hints made me explicitly think at Eygil.... What do you think? (sorry for my English I'm not native... Hi from Italy)

[@MrChiron12]

I like fighting every play through I'll always try to get him as an enemy.

[@cavery7275]

The Resonant Hexes consumes souls on cast. Could the Resonant thirst for souls be the source of Navlaans thirst for killing?

[@alb1reo]

can someone tell me the names of the soundtracks that are playing in the background?

[@SilverMont]

Albireo Most of it's from the DaS2 OST - I think the Ancient Dragon theme is one of those playing in the middle.

[@MalignantWraith]

Hi Montey! :D Interesting as always, spellbound through the whole video (pun intended;)) Btw, u dont happened to get in the bloodborn alfatest this sunday?

[@SilverMont]

***** I did not, no!

[@MalignantWraith]

Silver Mont Ohh ok. Im on the last 40 min now. Just beat it for the first time, starting a new ch. really nice feeling after beating theboss! so far i think its gonna be an awesome game but we cant know for sure since its still an alfa, to much can change. But itslooking good :D

[@noruv3816]

if i ever make a mage build, im cosplaying this guy

[@ReyndommVideos]

What item description are you quoting from 'roundabouts 8:25?

[@SilverMont]

CrayolaAutumn Chaos Shield

[@ReyndommVideos]

Ah. Is that one of ol' Navvy's quest rewards?

[@SilverMont]

CrayolaAutumn The Undead Aberration in Aldia's Keep drops it, fairly rarely. It's not a great shield though haha.

[@ReyndommVideos]

Silver Mont Doesn't he also drop the Esparda Ropera?

[@Sub-Zeroevil]

Silvermont have you noticed that the rock on the santier's spear is a head and that the spear its self looks some what like the one that the blobs in dark souls used as there tongue attack (the blobs as in the ones in new londo.

[@SilverMont]

Andrew shananaquet Well, most spears end up looking vaguely the same, right? I would imagine that's largely a coincidence.

[@Sub-Zeroevil]

yeah good point.

[@darreideamos2309]

You actually don't have to kill Gilligan. I bought the ladder miniature and gave it to Navlan. I wonder if you can also trick him like that with other characters

[@themagikarp9676]

you can.

[@Fullmetalnyuu0]

Hey Silver Mont, I was just wondering if you have transcripts of your videos?

[@SilverMont]

Fullmetalnyuu1 I do have some, although they aren't completely accurate as I tend to go off-script a bit now and then when I'm recording.

[@Fullmetalnyuu0]

Ah, okay. Thanks anyway ^^

[@sepertarift]

btw dark greatsword rules, nice kill @ 10:50!

[@SilverMont]

Seperta Zen It's a fun spell!

[@Some_guy_and_his_games]

It's kind of like Seath and the primordial crystal

[@raddude4334]

Anybody notice that the chaos hood raises your int I usually can't wear the set because I don't have enough int but when I put on the hood I can I've even checked I went from 14 int to 17

[@SilverMont]

david proctor Yeah, many "caster" hats give stat boosts

[@raddude4334]

Really I thought it was only the chaos hood Neat

[@LucacielOfMirrah]

Maybe in dark souls 3,there will be a new type of spell (necromancy perphaps),since "original" Navlaan was trying to ressurect the art of ressurection,and Royal Sorcerer was invited by Alva and was united with Navlaan by experimentantion,or he created Navlaan in his head.perphaps Navlaan Is a product of Royal Sorcerer's mind,the experiment have created another mind in his body that is a part of the old Navlaan,this would explain the unique hexes that he haves and he nameing himself Navlaan but keeping the "Royal Sorcerer" title of his vessel. And the part of,both slepping would be,in a certain metod the Navlaan's side in the vessel's head is triggered,like a psycopath with doble personality,there was cases of psycopaths have double personality and when a certain event happens the psycho part awakes.Whit Navlaan could it be that,when someone is human,he would slept,and when is hollow,he would awake,and in a time,he would slept again giving the vessel a litle bit of time to lock him down,so he could prevent future tragedies. Also he may be blue because of the barrier,the spell used to lock his seems to be from a certain mechanis (since you need to deactivate an lever to open the barrier) and this barrier made the person's skin blue as a side-effect of staying to close to it in a large ammount of time. Also i agreed with Navlaan in some point. He said that he was using what gods gave him.Reffering to free-will.And that is correct,he haves the liberty to do whatever he wished to,every being has,but have to face the consequences,that he seems to don't caring about it because he is powerfull enough to kill all of those in his way,with only his vessel restricting him,but failed when he could made you kill in his behalf. The vessel even says to don't listen to him,knowing that he could make you done his "work". Alotugh when you finish his quest line he shows to be very pleasent and happy saying that "you've been good to me",taking you as a possible friend,but when the barrier drops he became "thisrty" again and tries to kill you,even if you alredy helped him,showing that he trully is a sociopath,maipulating you yo believe that he is alredy satisfied and can be in peace,that would made you to believe it so and to possivle realease him,inlcusing he sells armot and many more stuff to make we thing he is good.At the end is all part of his plan.

[@Mimic_Chan]

I've been wondering if the good side of navlaan was the result of experimenting on the pursuer knight.

[@mooseg12]

Good video but I think Navlaan might be a Fenito like Agdayne, hence the blue skin.

[@unsubme2157]

it says navlaan sealed himself away because by the time the sorcerer realised what was happening he WAS navlaan at least partly. the item descrip is referring to the sorcerer post "invasion" not necessarily implying that it was the evil persona that chose to be locked up, but rather referring to both entites as navlaan.

[@Mackinmeat]

He could be a dragon trying to make a vessel for his self

[@lightningandodinify]

Navlaan is my favourite character in DS2 ❤

[@palehorseman7464]

Seven seconds in. NEEDED to comment on the ÒwÓ face on his hood

[@spookyjohn6543]

Gavlaan wheel, gavlaan deal Navlaan sin, navlaan win

[@moogi8676]

I think Navlaan's soul was powerful enough to influence others around him, just like how the great lord souls could influence power. After Navlaan's execution I think part of his soul influenced a powerful sorcerer to pursue the art of dark. This would explain how Navlaan mentions him being created and how he has 2 personalities. Navlaan could have been a personality born of experimenting with the dark arts and eventually resurrected his old self back to life with the help of Aldia. I think Aldia came across Navlaan at one point and tricked Navlaan into helping him recreate a dragon. I also think Aldia imprisoned Navlaan after he created a dragon because of the threat he could pose to Vendrick and his throne.

[@firstnamelastname6392]

So who momentarily forgot Mr. Bipolar here and thought Gavlaan the wheel guy upon first reading this video's title?

[@davebutleer8603]

On navlaan's hood, it's filled with funny faces XD

[@SilverMont]

Dave Butleer I'm surprised people noticed that so quick!

[@ziion2lord]

honestly i think there's more to him wanting Gilligan gone. if i remember right, when the player first meets Gilligan he mentions he is being hunted by assassins or something along those lines and that is why he's off out of the way of everything. the only assassin i recall being in game (or at least closest to one) is Navlaan so i always assumed he meant him although its been a long time since i spoke to Gilligan or even played DS2 so my mind might be mixing things up

[@SilverMont]

***** I assumed Gilligan was just avoiding people he had scammed with his stupid ass ladders haha. Maybe he gave Navlaan a ladder and then took it away, leaving the poor sorcerer trapped in a high place

[@ziion2lord]

Silver Mont yeah. i kinda see it as either we never meet who he's hiding from or its Navlaan. either way, this is dark souls so i doubt we'll ever know for sure XD

[@PassingNeet]

a thought i had during this, it mentioned that all of the creations were "Eerily malformed". assuming you are right, would this include the herald? how is she malformed then? is that why she wears the cloak?

[@SilverMont]

somaldelhar Well... she does have mismatched eyes, and she's wearing a bandage on one of her arms, but other than that she seems well formed to me!

[@PassingNeet]

ha! but in all due seriousness, i meant what the nature of the deformity was, rather than if she has them to begin with. like you pointed out she is actually very well shaped, completely human, aside from heterochromia (which can happen in humans anyways) and her bandaged arm. the big question is what that really is.

[@NeoBoneGirl]

Silver Mont Perhaps her soul is malformed, or maybe her entire existence, because, after all, the Emerald Herald was a failure at keeping the curse at bay by having an immortal firekeeper.

[@jessielefey]

She's supposed to be a firekeeper, and firekeepers are also renown for being deformed, but not always an obvious way if they're not, you know, naked. Not as a contradiction, just as more interesting information on the topic. Were they all deformed because they were trying to make a firekeeper? Why were they trying to make a firekeeper anyway, or did they just accidentally end up with something like one? Where the hell is she? (Because she's not on that hill, because she doesn't stay dead when you kill her, and there's an interesting theory that the question is even more *when* is she, since some things she says feels like she's talking from the future.) Is she really the old lady from the beginning? Out of all the characters we know very little about, she bugs me the most. She's so ruddy pivotal to the plot, but we know basically nothing about who she is as a person. We know she was an experiment that almost worked but didn't. We know she was very lonely, and she still seems lonely even with you around. That's... about it.

[@ghostofrage2252]

I accidentally released him.... he was a weak sorcerer. ._.

[@CassidyListon]

I always thought Gilligan had met Navlan before. Why else would he be hiding from someone or something at the Earthen Peak?

[@SilverMont]

Cassidy Liston Because he charges people thousands of souls to move a ladder and there are a great many people who would like to see him thrown down a well!

[@darkminer14]

Can/have you done one of our favorite hexer yet? I mean, he might have a story, i'd like him done ^^

[@SilverMont]

green miner Felkin? If so, then I spoke about him in the first Q&A vid I did a few weeks back

[@darkminer14]

I just know him as the hex-vendor ^^ he's my favorite vendor so you'd think i'd remember him :P oh well thought i'd ask.

[@BlackenedDrummer]

I got the impression that Navlaan's spirit had been hanging around the undead crypt, where he took over Olenfords body

[@SilverMont]

Nathan Magnuson Olenford is often forgotten, true that. I suppose that's because he has what... one item? But hey, if not Navlaan, he could make a good candidate for the Scholar of the First Sin. Who I believe makes his first appearance in the Crypts. He's also regarded as the father of sorcery and he came to Drangleic to search for knowledge beyond humanity's understanding... and even "did away" with his humanity.

[@BlackenedDrummer]

Indeed. We will find out! (Hopefully)

[@SpacePirateLord]

Very nice... I, however, have another theory. I think he is a living hex. All dark magicks have an emotion that is attributed to them... With enough bizarre experimentation, I believe even a hex can develop its own will; a will that overtook the royal sorcerer. This would also explain why he only speaks to Hollows, because he is the Dark, and Hollows are the true form of humanity. This also works to illustrate the point that is also given by the existence of the different Queens towards the players.

[@SilverMont]

SpacePirateLord To a certain extent, I think hexes and sorceries overlap and can be considered one and the same. Miracles obviously work differently, but hexes, sorceries and pyromancies are all similar in a lot of ways etc.

[@SeEpiNIncoherentRambling]

how do you eat a soul spear? I don't know if he was making spells but he was in the keep because his shield drops from the things that were in sinners rise.

[@SilverMont]

I was using the ring from Shulva that has a chance to absorb magic

[@SeEpiNIncoherentRambling]

oh yeah. I was using that and trading grs but still lost because he hid in a room so I left mind because it's boring to do nothing and he shot me with a great arrow. the way some people play.

[@mrdomomrdomo]

So I cant believe I only discovered this today but it turns out there was well done dub voice over for some Dark Souls comics in a series called Lordran and Beyond in which there is actually an established relationship between Creighton and Navlaan in which Navlaan the darker murderous alter ego has been sending Creighton to murder his Marks much like he asks of us to do when we meet him, however in this comic there is a switch that happens where sometimes its the good side of Nav who tells creighton "no why are you doing this you're only encouraging him, stop this, etc." and Creighton doesn't care as he asks for Dark Nav, who changes when Good Nav walks off screen and switches "Persona", and tells him he has one more mark for him but he has to switch the lever down the hall, Creighton does so but first looks at all the messages saying "Dont do it" "Turn Back" "Dont you dare" much like the messages we receive in game ourselves before meeting Navlaan and seeing all those messages warning us about releasing him from his cage, and releases him, he then sees Navlaan cowering and goes to kill him but is quickly defeated using magic, then takes his own axe and murders him, good Navlaan comes into control for a moment saying "why?" and crying over the dead body, but Navlaan reassures him that he's helped him enough in hiding away and this what he wants to do now and that its more than fair So that gives more insight as it seems theres two "Personas" in control of the body and let us hope it is never Navlaan

[@diluted_potato8774]

When you say bound to a catalyst do you mean like Seath's immortality crystal?

[@diluted_potato8774]

Maybe, Evil Navlaan is Seath reincarnate?

[@alexjuve2858]

VelstryoxDP uhhh Seath is in Freja ... you know the giant 2 headed spider ?

[@SilverMont]

VelstryoxDP A lich generally binds his essence/soul or something to a phylactery, and as long as that item remains, he can survive etc. Actually, it's a lot like what the bad guy did in Harry Potter, as I recall. I imagine that was based off the same principle. Likewise, I think that's kinda what is going on with Navlaan.

[@MintyCow101]

I released him by accident, i wanted to be friends XD plus i completely missed this area, I’m near the end if the game

[@eduardoreinaldo6332]

I free him, but he came back to his sell after a long time, and i still dont know why.

[@Commander_Spyke]

9:49 LOL

[@kylebillheimer75]

I think Navlaan had something to do with the pursuers, since the pursuers have Hexes, and Navlaan is called "Royal Sorcerer Navlaan" Which means he probably worked for a king (Maybe of the kingdom Alken, which is where the pursuers come from). He made a murderous thing that possessed his body, maybe that is what he did to the pursuers as well in order to have them hunt undead.

[@SilverMont]

+Kyle Billheimer Well, we don't strictly know if the Pursuer(s) came from Alken - just that we can get the RoB from Pursuer. First time I ever saw Pursuer, I figured it was a Benkei style character, judging from the large amount of weapons they are carrying. So I thought perhaps the RoB was just another "treasure" they were carrying around. Still, you never know!

[@ZachariasTheFirst]

As soon as I figured out Navlaan’s story he instantly gave me Green Goblin vibes

[@SilverMont]

He's something of an invader himself

[@chicoladeiras1]

I belive Navlaan wears both rings that make your weapons invisible when he invades. He has attacked me with a knife moveset as I got too close to him and I could see no weapon at all.

[@SilverMont]

+Francisco Ladeiras I wonder if that's just a coding way to get around the fact that he's not got any weapons, as they can't have him casting spells otherwise? I dunno. But I do think the implication is that he doesn't have any catalyst - but it COULD just be that they are invisible! I do like the idea that the body itself is his catalyst, though!

[@timwilson4940]

id love to see a video on vengarl or lucatiel

[@SilverMont]

Tim Wilson Lucatiel will def be covered!

[@Solibrae]

Maybe he only calls himself Navlaan now because, as a cursed undead, he's forgotten his original name and just taken the name of his alter ego?

[@andreicimafranca7593]

I think navalan is from melfia he sells astrologhist set and black witch set btw i think "naive vessel of mine" means the soul vessel in majula the reson why cale is did not appear in majula mansion because of the skeleton maybe the skeletons where navalan's skeletons

[@SilverMont]

andrei cimafranca I don't think a Soul Vessel can be naive, haha

[@jgaines3200]

I actually just found out that the guy who voices him is the main villain from da vincis daemons

[@SilverMont]

jgaines3200 The more you know!

[@o_Kurto]

i like that you do lore on npc's unlike some other lore youtubers :)

[@SilverMont]

Kurtis Fawcett The NPCs are my favourite part of the lore!

[@o_Kurto]

me too, hardly anyone does them, most people just do boss lore :)

[@Literally15Ducks]

+Silver Mont I haven't finished all of your lore videos but what are the lore behind the stones used to imbue weapons?

[@SilverMont]

There's not too much to go on! Titanite is a rare material "not found outside of Lordran" - the domain of the gods and there's a legendary blacksmith god. Presumably it's just a very impressive metal-like thing which takes on many different properties. Perhaps if you expose it to fire magic, it becomes imbued with fire and then can be worked into a normal blade, for example

[@Literally15Ducks]

In the descriptions of the stones McDuff uses to imbue is says "Sorcerers at the Melfian Magic Academy once attempted to imbue titanite with various elements, but are said to have failed. Someone must have succeeded though; what else would explain this stone?"

[@robTCGZ]

Considering that I never really liked the idea of Aldia being the Ancient Dragon we encounter in the shrine, I love the theory that says Naavlan is Aldia. Seems more interesting

[@danielmhfu]

robTCGZ the update blew that theory away butchered it eat it shit it then was eaten by a dung beatle

[@robTCGZ]

Yeah, I know. But at least it also blew the ''aldia is the dragon'' theory, which I always thought was ridiculous

[@danielmhfu]

robTCGZ true i just stopped making theorys cause fromsoft pulls a fast one and fucks me

[@alfraaancis7121]

Thats the part where The game wants to trick you: You should not trust anything in this game. When i saw a sign saying pull back and do not dare i thought that it was going to make the boss easier,but no. for anyone that has pulled the lever welcome to hell

[@rahulverma8774]

I pulled the lever ....... i killed everywhere he invaded without trouble ...... i got 4 extra human effigies 😉

[@FrozenDarkLord]

Navlaan/Royal sorcerer is blue because thats how he was made in character creator

[@VesterNCrowley]

um dumb question, from where did you get that stuff

[@SilverMont]

VesterNCrowley What stuff?

[@VesterNCrowley]

I meant staff sorry

[@SilverMont]

VesterNCrowley Drops from the witches in the Crypt, IIRC

[@Mark-kj9du]

I dont know if it just happened to be but does anyone think navlaans good side sounds like griggs of vinheim from dark souls one

[@SilverMont]

Mark Dowing Good ear - they share voice actors

[@trusty6625]

Aw I read the title as Gavlan lore.

[@SilverMont]

Trusty ™ That comes later!

[@AshKetchup-ek7dg]

Does bonfire ascetic makes the lever go back up? I pulled it 😭😭😭

[@SilverMont]

I don't think so!

[@TheSorrowOfTheReaper]

so this kind of sorcery-pvp was cool :D

[@SilverMont]

TheSorrowOfTheReaper I'm not too fond of using spells in PvP (or in general) but I did need some footage! So it worked well enough for that

[@TheRealVincentValentine]

He always is my invader in every place in the game

[@platinumjack1723]

You should do sir Alonne's lore

[@SilverMont]

Jackson Stacy I'll cover Brume Tower in the future, yeah

[@grimgaming9306]

Do you suppose that Navlaan might have been innocent of the crime of resurrection? Perhaps he found another sorcerer perfection this and during the attempt to stop him activated a spell that when he died gave him his own curse to deal with much like our characters? Maybe he too will hollow if he does not kill, or perhaps fade. The Royal sorcerer might have stumbled upon the same spell used on Navlaan and Navlaan was summoned into the sorcerer. Well, this is just my theory.

[@SilverMont]

GrimSouls Navlaan seems plenty suspicious to me, if only because he advocates murder and doesn't see any problem with it.