Darkest Dungeon - Most Bullshit First Room Ever

[@ravnborg3786]

"How quickly the tide turns "

[@henrythereal7776]

“Grievous injuries palpable fear”

[@panicatthedm873]

no crap really?

[@panicatthedm873]

​@UhohitsRenaud i know. i'm 130-ish weeks into the game i've heard him say it so many times i read that comment in his voice

[@panicatthedm873]

@UhohitsRenaud the miller owes me his liver

[@panicatthedm873]

@UhohitsRenaud trying to make a team for the baron and i keep losing characters or having bad startups at the courtyard. i swear i have gone through 20 jesters trying to get some level 4 anything

[@SirDamned]

Pretty good but I spotted a few obvious mistakes: 1. Remind yourself that 2. Over confidence is a 3. Slow and insidious Killer.

[@lordpetroollo6979]

One thing i hate the most is when DD fanboys say this stuff to defend the unfair rng.

[@lordpetroollo6979]

@Grave robber what?

[@paopao.]

Actually, one simple mistake that he did do here is not going in with 100% light. even 74% light gives the monsters too much crit rate. And he had shitty trinket placement to begin with (the Vestal had a Legendary Bracer, I mean who does that? And the Hellion has common-tier trinkets..)

[@accounteliminato3885]

@@lordpetroollo6979 one of the thing I hate the most about life is when people respond aggressively to jokes they don’t understand. Also what do you suggest? It is what makes the game fun and challenging, if everything had 100% accuracy and crit once every 4 turns it’d be boring. Part f the challenge is making sure shit like this doesn’t happen, this, albeit bullshit, was preventable and absolute chaos happening once every 50 runs is not only acceptable, it’s funny and enjoyable in hindsight

[@subjetividadobjetivaconmak4259]

@Grave robber I never let them kill me. I always cut the battle and reload, so I can either escape a battle or try to finish it with better odds. I have never lost a hero after 75 weeks. Have I done a DD quest yet? No, but... even then... I will syill try.. >:)

[@jacobgriffiths8448]

*quirk triggers on scrawling, nothing bad happens* Game: "Ha there goes all your luck, here have a surprised team and 3 crits."

[@JérémyAdrian-l3b]

Is it even possible that these are good events? In +17 trigger I never had a good one and 3 were neutral Just burn down these caves goblin slayer style

[@andymanson854]

RNGesus giveth, and RNGesus taketh away.

[@buckeyeinblack]

No, it just taketh.

[@baonkang5990]

Giver of pain and taker of hope

[@JérémyAdrian-l3b]

He give 34 crit heal on my barely bruised paladin. Hetake with 3 spiders getting 5 turns back to back ALL focusing my occultist He give much more than he takes meme apart, and I make sure to play it safe, for a challenging game I lost 5 heroes in the first 30 weeks; very good to be fair

[@VonTyrant]

Sometimes this game just really, really, REALLY wants to kill certain characters.

[@veng3r663]

@@Converge3 And Plague Doctors. Oh God SOO many fallen Plague Doctors... >_

[@toddnapolitano9428]

Sometimes I feel like when situations like that happen, it's not RNG, but the game telling you to go fuck yourself.

[@t.oguzunluerler4804]

Dont bond with characters. Dont name them or You. Will. Get. Hurt.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

@@t.oguzunluerler4804 just back up your save file for when bullshit like this happens.

[@speenta4879]

@@GeraltofRivia22doesn’t the game save over your backup?

[@juan.2012]

Okay that settles it Satan programmed this game.

[@Golden_Pig64]

@@FineObsidiann Do you find it funny that you aren't able to see how many dislikes a comment has on KZbin?

[@veng3r663]

The Devil TRULY 'loves' for us to suffer & cry playing this game... T_T

[@ubcroel4022]

@@Golden_Pig64 Took it personally, huh?

[@ubcroel4022]

@@FineObsidiann True as fuck

[@kadimusbaratheon7352]

"You can't be mad at the videogame, it's a fair game. You just didn't prepared yourself." I literally had the same thing happened to me in the Ruins.

[@Gunzblazer44]

Had something different happen to me. I finished the tutorial (for the 7th time) and brought my first team to their first expedition. Everything went so well and I had one room remaining. The way was scouted. Nothing but a bit of treasure in the corridor so I did what any person would do....I put my torch to 0 for some extra loot.... Fucking hell dude. 1 HALLWAY and I get hit by a random fight which just happened to be the damn Shambler. The first fucking mission dude. That was last year August when I stopped playing.

[@KlaymenDel]

When that happens you know that Darkest Dungeon doesn't like you today

[@Nauskills]

Skill issue -The ancestor

[@MetallicBascinet]

When you didn't pray to RNGesus beforehand.

[@thedarkgenious7967]

when your insincere prayers pissed it off.

[@jason101386]

i aint praying to that piece of junk. thats the reason why we are put into situations in the first place!

[@DildoFagginsNL]

I love how the narrator antagonises you even more

[@gamemaster2638]

"You will endure this loss and learn from it. "

[@flipperjr.3822]

Ok, I need to know something; Does "Hook where it hurts" have an increased CRIT rate? I have seen that move Crit more often than not.

[@PunkerWithABoner]

Flipper Jr. yup

[@Pistolintheface]

Oy i fucking love to get a 20 crit from this guy then my occultist heals for 32 then another crit 24.

[@TaggedByTim]

I think at apprentice level it has a Fucking 16% chance to crit. At apprentice level!

[@ozanozenir2503]

@@TaggedByTim those levels of the quests are not really the difficulty of the quests they are just related to character level. its kinda hard to explain but you still lose some guys even in low lvl quests lol.

[@Guille2033]

16% crit rate at Champion, which is what this guy was facing

[@thedweller6115]

I love how he attacks 3 different targets in stead of focusing the stress or the hook guy lol

[@marshalldrew4809]

You don't choose who Blind Fire hits. It's random, and also the only move available for the position he was in

[@nepnep615]

@@marshalldrew4809 I mean... Arbalest can move back 2, but it was "everyone pick on hellion day"

[@marshalldrew4809]

@@nepnep615 it was total bs lol I'm with the poster

[@ozanozenir2503]

@@marshalldrew4809 he could move with the arbalest instead of shooting random fire 2 times in a row. also he could equip the stun ability of vestal.

[@marshalldrew4809]

@@ozanozenir2503 Sure he could have. I'm not suggesting he played this optimally, but it feels like people who haven't even played the game are shitting on him. How do you not know Blind Fire hits at random? It's even in the name.

[@therider990]

You were in a champion level dungeon with level 3 and 4 gear.

[@zzz-o2p]

Exactly, and walking into a room with below 75 light also while being at it

[@LockeNarshe]

Just had a similar experience about 10 minutes ago, losing my Champion Lvl 6 Vestel. 5/5 Weapon and Armor, Maxed out Skills and legendary trinkets. It was my 'A' team, my original 4 heroes I started with (and 4/6 of my Lvl 6's). I jump into the Weald like any other normal day. First battle I get into, a singular enemy pops up -- it's the tree-wielding Giant. No problem, I thought. I'll just stun him and bleed him to death because his phys resistance is high. Turn 1, maxed out dazzling light is resisted. Second turn of the fight, Vestel gets crit for 60 HP by the giant swinging his tree. Instantly she's on death's door, so I know that since the giant just went -- I've got a few moves coming up that my Crusader can heal her off of Death's Door or she'll heal herself and be in the clear, right? Wrong. Giant took a second immediate turn and crit her again, dead. Upwards of 70% Death blow resist, didn't matter. Lost my best healer just like that. I've lost characters in the game before, everyone has and it sucks -- but typically it's because I screwed up and played the situation poorly/risky and it didn't pay off. Hell, part of the fun is getting ass-blasted and coming back with another team to 'avenge' your comrades that got beat up, went crazy, or slain... but this? That's beyond just brutal RNG, it's downright unfair and that's why this game gets uninstalled every few months, lol. Being punished for a screw-up makes you learn better for next time, being punished by RNG just because it feels like it is poor gameplay mechanics.

[@PeaceOnEarth013]

I think that's kind of the point - it's unfair, but sometimes bad shit happens. All the prep in the world can't save you from bad luck.

[@piotrnapora5810]

*laughs with only two low-level characters lost*

[@AliceTheNeko]

Yeah, the Weald freaking sucks at high-level.

[@GULAGMONK]

Why was your vestal in the front row?

[@pan_salceson]

That's what rouglikes are about.

[@EnvoyOfFabulousness]

I really loved DD, the one thing in it that frustrated me though with the RNG was situations like this, where one character gets focused and crit like crazy and you just have no chance to save them. Great game

[@ozanozenir2503]

he could save that character actually. he entered the room without full torch which is a big mistake that some people dont care and he also did not equip the stun skill of vestal which helps a lot. and he attacked different enemies in the first turn and he swapped places with vestal and the helion when he could just use helions ability and swap places in the arbalests turn instead. and he uses random shot which is completely useless against 4 enemies.

[@rebull8262]

Also he had a round before his character got focused out so he could've retreated

[@Hedning1390]

@@rebull8262 And he didn't have full upgrades and no stuns and spread the damage instead of killing enemies.

[@aikalabe7719]

going into a champion dungeon with a 4 weapon and a 3 armor is asking to get rocked.

[@thekingsguard8874]

I just love the amount of turns the ai took before you got to do anything

[@Gavlavyus_Rumi]

This is why speed is important rather than damage

[@thesecondeevee9754]

speed moment, its kinda like pokemon in a way lower speed -> go last howeveer i do wish it had the turn queue like in dd2 where you dont have to check your speed and know enemy speed

[@wisemage0]

Speed issue

[@wellingtonmcskellington4833]

I once had collector as the first fight, I killed him, but his last highwayman slaughtered my occultist with a 56 dmg crit + bleed

[@peepeetheanime8670]

what resolve lv was he?

[@thedarkgenious7967]

ah yes, this is why we should prepare but not overly so. I've probably had 6 collectors be the first fight in a dungeon on lvl 3 and 5 dungeons XD

[@wellingtonmcskellington4833]

techadraws [unrelenting meme] Sunbent 6

[@mrorlov2706]

Doesnt light the torch Doesnt focus fire Gets fire focused " Remind yourself that overconfidence is slow and insedious killer"

[@marshalldrew4809]

In his defense, he got three attacks in, and two of them were blind fire. He doesn't choose who it hits. He couldn't really have played that any better with the moves and positions he had.

[@secretname2670]

Yep, the player just fumbled the bag. There was no real gameplan behind anything, his party was just "throw spaghetti at a wall and see what sticks" kind of party. Hellion and Arbalest who doesn't like to be moved around? AND frontline Highwayman? Are you building bleed or marks, or tempo damage? Any battle can be salvaged into something usable, but not this one, not by this player.

[@merttok4291]

Those were definitely some unlucky crits my friend. Although I have to say that I noticed a couple of mistakes on your end. -Your vestal doesnt have a stun, which could have prevented one enemy from acting -Your arbalest doesnt have the healing spell, which is something that can be crucial for saving people off death's door (just like here lol) -You could have moved arbalest back so helion would move 1 unit front and he could have hit that turn RNG sometimes leaves you with no choice I know that but I also believe you have to do your part first :)

[@OrpingtonFeller]

Mert Tok this basically sums up all the bitch-bois complaining about RNG in the comments. RNG can be a huge factor in a battle but half the game involves preparing for unfortunate and unexpected situations like this.

[@PunkerWithABoner]

It's always a shitty lesson, but it is a lesson nonetheless. If you don't learn you are playing yourself and you can't afford that

[@adampalomino6838]

Even though this is a year old comment, it still annoys me. Even if you have god tier planning skills, the game's rng will still fuck you over. It's gotten to the point where I just save scum the fuck out of this game. Because if it wants to fuck me over time and time again, then my pride dosent matter at that Pont. Not like it was any help to begin with.

[@giacomomeluzzi280]

@@OrpingtonFeller This was obviously a situation in which RNG played the major role. The only mistake that mattered a bit was the stun, considering that the enemies went all first the second round too.

[@t.oguzunluerler4804]

I mean these are hardly mistakes but choices. There is no playing perfectly in this game since luck in involved. Careless skill build would be better if you want to mention this build but it could have worked too. I bet this would work most of the time since the comp has everything but stress heal and some mark synergy. Just really shit luck here nothing else

[@peepeetheanime8670]

92.3% chance to hit with a crusader against a low-level enemy. all my party members are dead. I have 1 hp left. MISS killed by an enemy that can only do 3 damage to me. level 6 maxed out crusader. dead fukin spiders man.

[@thedarkgenious7967]

spiders can do a lot more than 3 damage :3

[@peepeetheanime8670]

TheDarkGenious protection trinkets and buffs

[@thedarkgenious7967]

Oh yeah. I always forget ypu can get something like 95% prot on crusaders

[@gregsun974]

Switch trinkets on your hellion and get better ones, get a haste chalice (very arguable but it would've helped here) on your vestal so that type of dumbassery doesn't happen, and keep that torch level above 75. With a breakthrough and a point blank shot you also could've restored your party order. In the heat of the moment it gets stressful i suppose

[@Bourotte25]

Monolith Guy yes

[@Mitoru.]

Switching trinkets won't change the fact that the Helion, is dead. VERY DEAD.

[@girlslaughingjp]

Monolith Guy he could have ran and kept his hellion

[@PunkerWithABoner]

Robert the death came very quickly after a few mistakes.

[@kamealex]

I was about to comment: well, not the best hero and target combination. But yeah, 3 criticals at the same character with every single effect on her... that's a little bit too much.

[@nergaskal8274]

Can you hear it? The sound of git gud.

[@argen2949]

git rng*

[@argen2949]

@@xox8874 git gud and rng*

[@solth8109]

@@xox8874 TBH he would've been fuvked either way since the enemies keep dodging in this case lol.

[@crocketlawnchair259]

I once got a collector as my first hallway segment.

[@mathiasvanbutsele8817]

I got a Collector in a starting game, 2nd run. Crusader lvl 1 - Highwayman lvl 1 - Arbalest 0 - Vestal 0. Zero trinket. 7 successive retreat failed. Ruined starting game.

[@TheGunslinger44]

Had the fish people in the cove Crit my Crusader 6 times in a row. Still didn't die or stress out, but I was still kinda pissed lmao

[@PetersaberHD]

Not even close to the most bullshit. I entered a room with 4 Spear Fishmen. They all went before any one of my guys did. First three landed a crit (three crits, 64hp down to 0)on my Vestal healer in 4th spot, level 6, maxed out, top-tier gear, and the last one killed her.

[@profesionalniamater5909]

Omg

[@seamusdoyle4884]

You made a couple of mistakes there though. You didn't light the torch before or during the fight, you focused the wrong piggie (it's better to focus the one that pukes), and you didn't fix your position as fast as possible.

[@murdercubes4968]

I get that the game is about preparing for everything ,taking the right decisions and overcoming any situation but sometimes the game gets pretty ridiculous Nothing is sure ,i always expect the worse scenario so it doesn't get me that hard. Also don't be afraid to leave if you can I love the game but i do get why people don't like it ,i mostly play it once in a while and just leave it for a while

[@illchangethislater7936]

Should’ve brought ancestor’s lamp

[@Serpillard]

I used to get surprised too. And then I got the Ancestor's Map after killing my very first Shambler. Moral of the story: get the Ancestor's Map.

[@chmi125]

Always have very high or very low torch, never in-between. Arbalest healing skill is a must-have, never leave without it.

[@nvrknwsbes-t]

I've just lost almost all my party (2persons with trinkets) there. I'm crying

[@wip3outxl]

Reminds me of a time I was trying to do the Siren boss. I got into the dungeon, and the first enemy encounter in the only pathway to boss was the Collector

[@ItsNotaTuhmah]

Hook there it hurts. No truer name for an enemy attack.

[@Inuzumi]

This isn't the warrens i know and love, like you did get any disease!?

[@Thecommander248]

Did you completely forget to upgrade their armor?

[@bazikon7717]

How quickly the tide turns

[@JérémyAdrian-l3b]

I was expecting vestal to get the red plaguz or something

[@alicemalice2597]

Stun the hook guy with the vestal on the first turn, then the hellion wouldn't be on death's door on the second. Move the arbalest back on the first turn instead of using blindfire which would move the hellion into position 2 where she could double stun the front two enemies with barbaric yawp on turn 2. Also focus your damage onto one target to kill it quickly instead of spreading your attacks out everywhere since a wounded enemy is just as deadly as a full health one.

[@DearValentina]

This is a certified Warrens moment

[@dirtydan143]

It reminds me of that time that a group of fricking spiders killed two high leveled characters in two turns. The thing was in radiant, my characters were at level 5 and the dungeon was of medium difficulty so I still don't know how it happened

[@Golden_Pig64]

*Giant alien spiders are no joke.*

[@punishedwhispers1218]

'SKill issue' - Red Hook

[@zzz-o2p]

It is actually genuinely a skill issue. Going into a champion level dungeon with 3 3 armor and weapons upgrade, while also walking into a room with below 75 light is a death sentence

[@naplockblubba5369]

I think you deserve this for equipping your healer with Legendary Bracer

[@lynling7830]

And not even a stun equipped

[@themain3524]

...I just sat there, in silence, for good 3 minutes. What the actual fuck. For the longest time, I haven't seen an ACTUAL reasonable example of DD is RNG BS but holy moly, this is QUITE the example. Sensational.

[@speakingof8106]

He made a couple of mistakes. Might have been bad rng, but the situation was in fact avoidable and most definitely winnable with minimal losses if he'd played it smarter.

[@themain3524]

@@speakingof8106 Im well aware, im a seasoned DD player myself. It was just a fuck up after fuck up :D

[@chrisnichols9014]

@@speakingof8106 Bullshit. This games difficulty is just RNG nonsense. The game pretty much cheats at times. Good game, but the randomness is artificial difficulty.

[@thesecondeevee9754]

@@chrisnichols9014 yknow i find it funny people will ignore when they get a crit 64 heal on occ and a crit 40 on leper but shit themselves when the rng decides to kill one of their heroes dont get me wrong, i can understand it, but if youre gonna complain about rng, stop ignoring when it works in your favor

[@MagyarGaben]

"skill issue" - The Ancestor

[@darko1801000]

Happened to me 2 minutes ago , dismas got critted three times in the same turn and died

[@LetsDoBurgerKingPoot]

Seems like nobody knows how to manage RNG very well in this comment section

[@masterblaster2678]

Because you can't "manage" RNG, it just happens on it's own. What the fuck is someone supposed to do when their party is surprised at almost-maximum light, then get critted thrice and one of the heroes die in the first god damn room? You can't tell the enemy who to attack, and you can't tell them not to crit. By the way, I love Darkest Dungeon and never lost more heroes than I needed to (I summoned a Shambler in the 5th dungeon because of curiosity, and that was the only time I got wiped), but these talks about "getting good at managing RNG" is pure dogshit and completely stupid argument.

[@fff131313]

LetsDoSpeedwagon the issue here in the comments is the completed lack of virtue boosting trinkets.

[@PunkerWithABoner]

The RNG is set to make you lose, that's true but there's always ways for you to contain the damage. People get cocky with their high valued heroes and it's one of the worst mistake you can make. His skill set was design in only to damge deal a ton but nothing to recover from. No stunt availabe, one healer instead of having the arbalet be a death door saver. Using that random shot instead of backing off. The RNG was brutal but it just saved him some time

[@dawsonbrown2116]

@@masterblaster2678 Agreed. Thank you for stating the truth

[@goldeneyekiller101]

​@@dawsonbrown2116if you set your parties and trinkets right, rng can be mitigated. Accuracy, protection, speed trinkets put things in your favor

[@SuperArystoteles]

Going THERE without a dog is like willing to die xd

[@garethsentry]

If you'd jist hit the torch before you went in the room less crits

[@mhkpt]

In battle at a high level, I like to have my torch as lit as possible. More loot is just not worth the risk.

[@legoyoda645]

Highway man didn’t have riposte before? Weird

[@iceybundles]

As soon as that surprised triggered I knew he was destined for failure 😂

[@lucapiemonti3584]

"What? You tough I'd give you a chance? Ha, you sorry fool!" - Darkest Dungeon

[@huhhuhuuhh]

Remind yourself that RNG will always be bullshit

[@hobojoedogbro6415]

its always that pig with the hook

[@Manzana1C]

I kept saying this doesnt look like BS unil I saw the first 2 crits... OUCH man

[@wearenumberone1111]

aaand there goes hours of grinding in a few seconds welcome to darkest dungeon!

[@A129WOLFY]

I just knew the bleed would deal the deathblow. it always does ;~;

[@jo587669]

This is why you use Holy Lance instead of wicked wack.

[@Copur_]

one time i lost my best bounty hunter, best occultist, and best moa because i failed an 86% chance to hit on hag 6 turns in a row and my occultist healed 4 hp in 5 turns

[@zombieboss5178]

Had more bullshit first fights than that, and second of all, that is still a pretty bullshit first fight. (also back then there wasn't riposte? Or did the Highwayman's Duelist's Advance didn't activate riposte?)

[@JogJogJog15]

Is this video going to give me anxiety

[@vindicatorg8392]

I was playing this game recently for the first time, I put it in radiant mode and it's still unforgiving. 34 people in the grave yard, masters veterans and legends only due to bullshit RNG, and I never gotten virture EVER in my entire campaign. I remember having radiant light on my touch so I won't get surprised, still got surprised. I got 4 diseases in one run, one time I was going to kill the sunken crew and my plauge doctor was my core to defeating it, and every single room had a uca savage and it kept pinching my doc so it can bleed for 10 every round, ended up with a wiped out team due to failed retreats. I searched the wiki up and it said in radiant mode you can get the "From Beyond" event which revives one hero, never got it. Keep in mind with all the "manipulate the RNG" comments I tried so hard to do that, failed.

[@Pistolintheface]

some tips: -radiant is not the "eazy" mode. All it does is speeding up the game( more xp for heroes per dungeon,more town events, some dodge bonus, etc). It does not make the enemies more forgiving. -Virtue chance is 25% so don't expect to get one.If you really want to have a better chance to get one put hero ring it has +25% virtue chance. -If you have full light you can still be surprised something like a 5-10% chance -Diseases are common just get some trinkets to have better disease rezist or if you have a doctor or grave robber when you camp you can get rid of diseases. - You can get "From Beyond" on any difficulty but you need to have at least 3 heroes dead and 0 trinkets in inventory but it's kinda rare(I have 200 hours and I only got it once) Have fun xd

[@mathiasvanbutsele8817]

The way you entered the room is bad. You did not keep moving right in front of the door so to check the light. Wich could have increased the chances to avoid that PARTY SURPRISED.

[@bobbob5007]

ok watching that tetra crit and hellion dying was sad lol

[@sibiris8474]

I kinda feel awful just from watching this.

[@PRubin-rh4sr]

Party Surprised: Check Bullshit Monster Crits: Check

[@zeldakitsch]

Tough break fella

[@bDe4d]

Oh this reminds me of the last time I played with additional quirks mod (and a few other ones) after flawlessly completing long, expert expedition (like, everybody alive, lots of loot, nobody even has stress).. Three out of four characters got HIV... And I'm not even fucking kidding, and I was like, "I just earned that money don't take it from me, I don't want lose like 30k because of some stupid ass diasese..

[@hideshisface1886]

Decided to start a new game. First true dungeon. Still with starting party - before unlocking the guild. Vestal and Doc got... less than optimal skills but workable in a pinch. First room. Party surprised. Vestal and Doc got shoveled into front positions from which Doc could not attack. Crusader shifted to the last position, from which he could not do anything. Skeleton Arbalest crits doc, skeletons crit, death door and kill. First room of first actual dungeon. That is not a skill issue, that is just plain bullshit.

[@wisemage0]

There are people who play this game without reloading their saves...

[@Sheldonthesnail]

Your moveset sucks on your hellion and vestal, your trinkets suck, the only unlucky thing was being surprised and being crit and being surprised shouldn't have mattered as everyone of those characters (Minus the vestal) are highly mobile.

[@DiegoMartinez-pi2ni]

you know there's a surrender button in the top left corner, right?

[@voicey5831]

Well, it's easy to complain and cry about RNG in Darkest Dungeon but what many bad/mediocre players don't realise is how many times shit like that can be avoided. List of mistakes: 1. Terrible Vestal trinkets. DPS? Vestal makes absolutely no sense, especially with a hard hitting team like that. 2. No Dazzling Light (stun) for Vestal. 3. No Breakthrough for Hellion. 4. No Battlefield Bandage for Arbalest. 5. Didn't use a torch before entering the room, having one light level down, lowering the chance of surprising monsters by 10%. 6. Mistakes with targeting while in combat. 7. Playing Arbalest with a Bandana trinket without Breakthrough is even more laughworthy. 8. Didn't move with Arbalest and Blindshotted instead - it wouldn't kill anybody unless it rolled highest damage possible and critical hit simultaneously. 9. Highwayman on 1st possition is questionable aswell. Since it's level 3 mission, he won't be able to kill any enemy with Pointblank Shot alone, especially when facing bigger monsters that can take few rounds to take down. In combat, health is way easier to heal than stress is so it makes waay more sense to put him into spot 2 so he can either shoot an enemy at position 3 or 4 or jump in with Duelist's while having pure damage trinkets instead of ranged ones. This way, OP could kill at least one stress dealing enemy so Hellion wouldn't get down to 0 HP and would get healed by Vestal or use Adrenaline. 10. No bleed skills while going into Warrens? 11. No scouting trinkets. Getting an enemy scouted makes it impossible to suprise your party. Makes sense to have some +scouting chance when playing a team that cannot switch possitions very well. Btw. scouting can happen in the starting room aswell. 12. Bad team composition. Instead of having 3 DPS heroes it would be better with having a Plague Doctor with blight+stun chance trinkets providing support for the party. Second option is having either Bounty Hunter with a flashbang (to stun and move a stress dealer) or a Houndmaster (great stun + bleed attacks) instead of Hellion/Highwayman. 13. Playing Hellion with Iron Swan at 2nd position. It's obviously meant to have her at 1st position after Highwayman uses Pointblank Shot but Hellion's speed is 5 when HM's speed is only 6. It means that the chance of Hellion using Iron Swan during her 1st round is VERY unreliable. Having 1 SPEED more than her doesn't guarantee Highwayman going before her everytime. Seems to me like OP didn't understand speed mechanic at the time of recording this video. Having even 1 or 2 key points done correctly would ensure winning this fight without any hero dying, even with getting crits like that. But well, the player isn't bad, it's just that the game is 'MoSt BulLsHiT eVeR'. Seems like even 4 years ago people used to seek excuses for losing. Sure, it's possible to have RNG so bad that a fight is unwinnable no matter how good you are but this video is 100% not an example of that. To people playing Darkest Dungeon or basically any other game - focus on finding mistakes in yourself rather than something you aren't able to change and I promise you'll get better eventually.

[@thesecondeevee9754]

hey man, i understand this completely however there is a mistake with #8: crits always deal 50% more than your highest roll, so critting + highest roll doesnt matter also its funny people while ignore a crit 60 heal with occ and a crit 40 hit with leper but shit when the rng isnt in their favor anyways, good day

[@wisemage0]

This is 100% Gish-galloping. Half of the "mistakes" you listed are just opinions, or flat-out disingenuous. What if this person doesn't have scouting trinkets? Are they supposed to just not play the game? It's funny because you're making the game seem worse by pretending everyone has to use the same extremely specific group archetype: otherwise they're "bad players" and now it's fair to crit them for 20 damage 3 turns in a row.

[@coopergiroux4298]

Should of focus fired down one target ASAP instead of spreading out your damage between them.

[@thedarkgenious7967]

he tried, but used the arbalest's blindfire to do so, which is so stupid i'm surprised they had gotten that far. BF is a random target attack that is mostly used for the speed buff or when your party's out of position but can afford to waste moves

[@Zero-il1db]

I mean... grey tier armor is kinda what happens.

[@juanpablocarvajalarias7583]

nah by the second crit i'd be out

[@jodyrappin]

Why do you have a legendary gauntlet on a vestal.

[@GameTheMost]

HoW qUiCkLy ThE tIdE tUrNs

[@ethantrimble6275]

A torch would've fixed this

[@tolvajtamas8567]

My story: I ran into the Collector 3 times in a row on separate missions, 2 of which was a boss run. I had to abandon each one because of the amount of stress and dmg my heroes received.

[@gregorymoran6641]

Don't mess with the pig people

[@valdobecerra7682]

¿Why i stop playing Darkest Dungeon? Oh right, now i remember.

[@davidk1227]

Darkest Dungeon vibes be like..

[@StillARandomGuy]

Wtf? Man, this must be hard.

[@behavior2836]

This video is very very old, and darkest dungeon worked different then, but I wanna explain how it wasn't complete bullshit! Failure in Darkest Dungeon is rarely only up to RNGJesus. Mistakes, no matter how subtle, all play a role. And maybe someone can get some use out of this! - Using heroes without fully upgraded skills and gear is like giving yourself a handicap. The extra HP would've stopped her from being put on deaths door, and the extra dodge might've negated all damage. Your attacks would've had a higher chance to hit, and a higher chance to crit too. - Every time someone uses Vestal without her stun, an angel loses their wings. Her stun can make your party 10x safer. - Vestal can be the sole healer, obviously, but compared to your Arbalest she's really slow. Since the Arbalest is likely to go first, if you had battlefield bandage instead of bola or blindfire, maybe the hellion would've lived. This gives you better odds at saving someones life. - Not using breakthrough on hellion isn't the end of the world, but as I first said: Mistakes add up. 1.) This party composition relies a lot on Arbalest and Hellion being where they need to be. Any help counts. 2.) What if you got a crit on one of the enemies and killed them? 3.) It gives you SOMETHING to do in case your party gets moved around a little. - Walking into a fight without full torch increases the chances to be surprised, and lowers the chances of you surprising the enemy. It has an affect on scouting chance as well, so before you finish a fight make sure to be at full torch so you may scout ahead of you. Scouting reduces the chance to be surprised entirely!

[@thatpedanticcommenter5847]

Happened to me once. But at that point I was at a point in the game where it didn't matter to much, so I just said "Fuck that" and retreated, keeping as many people as I could. Next quest was better. But I protest: that room was not nearly as BS as it could've been! If it was, the swine wretch would've given you an automatic disease and drums of doom would've given someone the worries too!

[@ottovonbismarck2404]

You should have singled out one target at a time. That way they would have been dead.

[@marshalldrew4809]

holy shit y'all it's blind fire, you can't aim it

[@secretname2670]

​@@marshalldrew4809two years later I'll remind you that blindfire isn't the only ability of the arbalest, that hasn't changed in the 8 years counting from this video's release.

[@marshalldrew4809]

@@secretname2670 Except it's the only move that Arb could have used in that turn on this run with those moves. If the criticism was "this is why you take bolas" or whatever then you would have a point

[@secretname2670]

@@marshalldrew4809 swap 3rd with arbalest to put her in a ready position, have at least one ability that covers this scenario, use holy water, don't be overconfident because of your damage trinkets, use yawp, use backshot/iron swan/bleed. The party could have done a whole lot, it's the player who was found both lacking and inappropriately equipped for the encounter. Bad luck is no excuse for tactical ineptitude.

[@marshalldrew4809]

@@secretname2670 Yes, good, try saying something like that next time so that we don't have to have this stupid conversation.

[@MaicoEliasTelesRodrigues]

Nelson : HA ! HA !

[@ГергардДерксен]

I feel your pain

[@nanangsulistyo6978]

Like everyone says: THIS GAME HATES YOU

[@HankJ666]

Well, the 3 20 crits and the focus on hellion was bullshit, but you should have moved the arbalest instead of attacking with the random target ability In case your hellion survived you could have attacked with her or just heal herself and remove the bleed, if not, you were just losing time as you would have to move her again or remove the bleed, in wich case you would still need to move her

[@Longknife]

I've had worse tbh. Was basically the same story, except they got my healer. Kinda ruined the run before it even started.

[@cathulhu5470]

Bad RNG summed up: Shite surprise, Hellion at the back and Arbalest at front 20 Crit Bleed from reaver on Hellion 20 Crit from hooker on Hellion Drummer putting Hellion to Death's door Reaver hitting Hellion on Death's door (at least she survived that one!) 1 spd Hellion taking turn before 6 spd Vestal, Hellion dying from Bleed All in two turns. If just one of these would've been removed the list (not happened), he'd have won. Which proves RNG can be a dick. The best he could've done to avoid the situation is Vestal with a stun, and Arbalest is never a good idea unless it's a mark comp. There's poor trinket usage, but it wouldn't have made a big difference in this situation aside from +ACC on Vestal. You could go with Vestal+Jester+2 MaA every single time or whatever, but the game doesn't expect that from you.

[@Orange_Wowee]

Ok I thought it was clickbait. Nevermind.

[@bahamutdragon1754]

Few mistakes here. This is not as RNG based as it looks. Nowhere near enough crowd control. Only a single stun on the vestal is not enough. Yawp on hellion is useless because front ranks are low priority. You have set your team up where you are guaranteed to take at least 1 back-row sanity attack every turn, which is exactly what happened. The Swine Chopper has a 1/4 chance to hit you, the drummer and the wretch will always hit you. After the Hellion took that first critical, you should have rotated her into 4th position and used a bandage. This prevents the Swine Chopper adding another bleed, as its only attack capable of reaching the 4th rank, Ball and chain carries a stun/knock-back effect, but no bleed, which is harmless once shes in the 4th position, as she will not move further backwards and being stunned will stop her being able to panic, so its arguably even beneficial to your team. Hook where it hurts from the Swing Slasher can only reach ranks 1/2/3 as well, meaning she could never have taken a second crit for 20. Not reacting by rotating guaranteed her death as you were making her face a potential 2-4 deaths door checks per turn. Even if she passed 5 of them, she would have gone mad and started a sanity cascade, you can already see her at 43 insanity after a single pass at 1:30. Darkest dungeon has bad RNG on occasion, of that there is no doubt, but there almost always an option in your toolkit to save yourself.

[@wisemage0]

_"Yawp on hellion is useless"_ If stunning two enemies in one turn is wrong, then I don't want to be right.

[@bahamut256]

@@wisemage0 Well its not completely useless, its just bad as a choice, its just the issue in darkest dungeon is that the first turn is absolutely critical, and back line targets always take priority, especially in first the turn. taking 15-20 damage from the front-line onto your front-line is entirely manageable, taking 40 sanity on all 4 characters is not.

[@shalissawhojeschowski2873]

the problem is you're in the warrens