Darko Milicic: super-hyped prospect, NBA journeyman ... Infamous Bust

[@barryallen871]

If he just goes 5 on that list instead of 2, he's probably forgotten. Still a bust, but mostly forgotten.

[@DipsAndPushups]

If he goes 5 some other team drafts him, which means that they maybe give him minutes, allow him to play to his strengths, allow him to pass the ball and shoot from distance. As a result of this, in this timeline Darko never loses motivation and he becomes a decent NBA player, maybe even an all star in his prime. As he is drafted below Wade, Carmelo, Bosh in this timeline nobody calls him a bust.

[@seano6859]

@@DipsAndPushups lol

[@jpmnky]

Good point. Considering that 6-7 were Chris Kaman and Kirk Heinrich. Who were both good. And forgotten.

[@MrOctober44]

That, and the effect of the Pistons near dynasty.

[@steelerfaninperu]

I went to Pistons games regularly from 04-06. Whenever the game became a blowout, the crowd would start chanting DAR-KO, DAR-KO, DAR-KO until Brown would put him in, and The Palace would erupt in raucous applause. Darko was either a human victory cigar, or a bit of comic relief to soften a loss. Had they have picked any of the next three guys, that Pistons team probably goes on to become a dynasty.

[@benyoung8985]

Well do they trade for rasheed if they drafted someone else? I feel like detroit does not win the title in 04 if they select someone else, most likely Bosh or Melo based on what I've read about that draft though I could be wrong. If they draft one of those 2 they wouldnt really have a need for Sheed or less minutes for tayshaun as well. As an outsider it feels like trading a guaranteed title for potentially a higher ceiling, but no guarantees. Personally as a portland fan I would take the guaranteed title vs the potential

[@BurritoKingdom]

@@benyoung8985 yup. Joe Dumars has said many times they would have drafted Bosh. Remember they were lacking post scoring at that point. They felt Tayshaun's defense first mentality fit better with Billups and Rip than Melo would have.

[@BurritoKingdom]

@@Mustard4488 I'm not sure about Melo. He really wanted to be in a big city like New York or LA. Remember around the same time Detroit started to suck, Melo jump shipped from Denver to the Knicks. While Bosh can't lead a team if he's the best player on the team. I think the Raptors only made the playoffs twice with Bosh in a weak Eastern Conference. Bosh is best as a 2nd or 3rd option. Wade easily was the 2nd best pick that draft but no one was thinking of him. I think when Miami drafted him, people thought it was a reach

[@EfehanBoyacoglu]

Crazy idea: Maybe the Human Victory Cigar effect after the wins, and the comic relief after the losses were necessary for that championship. Had any of the next three guys was chosen, Pistons and the fan base might have not found that energy they found in the Human Victory Cigar.

[@jbtreshawn]

@@EfehanBoyacoglu nah they win the next two maybe get to the finals in 06 and 07

[@Laidback_616]

I'll never forget watching a game in his first or second year, brother had a wide open shot and looked like he was lost. At the exact same time me my mom and the broadcaster all screamed " Shoot it Darko!!" Its the exact moment in which i knew we F'd up. Hope he's in a better place.

[@drphot6050]

Ben Simmons Lite lol

[@nachobroryan8824]

He's in a much better place now. He got into a career he actually enjoys. He's into growing fruit trees.

[@ZachAttackIsBack]

Larry Brown was very harsh on young players. In Detroit, would Carmelo have become Melo, Wade become D Wade, or Bosh become ... well .. Bosh? Early circumstances can greatly impact an NBA player's career and stifle what might be a promising future.

[@duaneharper6095]

I would say they would. Darko says he didn't love the game but I'm sure Melo loves the game. Not sure about Wade he might have been a little lesser of a star having to play behind Rip Hamilton and C Billips

[@andrew_l1900]

Larry Brown is a terrible coach and all his players have historically turned on him, I mean the guy was taking phone calls from other teams about his next coaching gig while on the sidelines for Detroit in the playoffs.

[@divinedelaware7541]

If Iverson wasn't strong as he was inside Brown mighta hurt him

[@divinedelaware7541]

@@duaneharper6095 He was just a tall for nothing or once he got that bag he didn't care dude

[@likenem]

There is Tayshuan. He came off the Bench to be a starter.

[@mcj88]

This makes me want to see an episode about the _other_ biggest draft bust, Sam Bowie; because we all know what his reputation is now, but I'd love to see what people thought of him in 1984, before he went #2 overall.

[@michaelcrump712]

He was the national college player of the year so he wasn’t trash he just couldn’t stay healthy

[@GR-nz3om]

I wasn't around then but based on some articles I've seen, Jordan was considered the better player but the blazers already had Clyde. And in the 80s when big men were more important than they are now, it was thought to be a solid, if unspectacular, pick

[@MAVtheSlacker]

Bowie was actually great... Just fragile

[@Concatenate]

The Blazers sure dodged a bullet by not selecting that Jordan guy. A person who pays women to keep relationships secret and who is probably the worst team owner in the history of the world. Come on Mike, you've had how many years to build a team in Charlotte?

[@CSLucasEpic]

Bowie was actually injured before the draft and faked being healthy during a medical exam so they would pick him and secure a contract. In an interview he said that he really needed that pick to secure his financial future and he does not regret anything.

[@denistuohy2535]

I’ll always be a Darko defender he went to objectively the worst situation he could have. Larry Brown was infamously anti young player and anti three point shooting. I can’t in good faith say he sucked.

[@frankpoleski5423]

Melo d wade Chris bosh were all on the board in sorry he was the worst bust ever

[@andresdelportillo9917]

@@frankpoleski5423melo would’ve been a bust if he went to Detroit Larry brown would’ve killed his career

[@denistuohy2535]

@@frankpoleski5423 if you think they’d develop the same way in Detroit you’re crazy. He didn’t even play Melo in the Olympics

[@denistuohy2535]

@@andresdelportillo9917 absolutely correct.

[@mongoslade277]

Great comment. Larry Brown would've F'd up Carmelo also

[@EliteDarkLordman]

God Seth I wish you would just commentate my everyday life

[@MrOctober44]

Bdcorndog led a tragic life that not managed to get worse year by year. Alcoholism, violence and abject poverty ruined any chance he might have had

[@dark4209]

The 2003 NBA Draft reminds me of the 1989 NFL Draft. Top 4 of 5 Players are sure Hall-of-Famers. Except One Blemish; Darko Milicic is the Tony Mandarich of this draft. The difference is that Darko won a championship with the Pistons.

[@barryallen871]

Well how could Mandarich win a championship with the Pistons?? He didn't even play in the NBA!

[@namesurname7172]

@@barryallen871 Are you okay?

[@hhtptai]

I am so freaking excited y'all are continuing PRISM as a regular thing. I would really love to see a Collapse episode about the Denver Broncos!

[@AETERNVS]

As an 18-year old from the war-rattled east Europe, he was, more than overhyped, unlucky. He ended up in teams that didn’t have space, coming from one of the most legendary NBA drafts ever. Also, he should’ve stayed more years in Europe after he got drafted. But he didn’t want to, he wanted to escape. His basketball career, for him, wasn’t a dream, but a job he learned to hate. What’s crazy, is that he’s 37. We see him as a player from a lot of time ago.. but he could’ve still been in the league.

[@silewis9396]

Yep. Lebron is at the end of his career now but people don't realise Darko is 6 months younger

[@liamdell4202]

​@silewis9396 LeBron is a crazy outlier though and more of a guard than a big who tend to past longer. It's rare for a big to play over even 35

[@joegevorkyan7308]

Absolutely

[@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303]

​@@liamdell4202 OTOH the famous "played in his 40s" player is a center (Kareem)

[@sukhwindergrewal1262]

Secret Base I hope you know your prism series is ELITE. I’ve loved everyone of the videos.

[@johnk.7058]

Not saying it would for sure make a difference but it's interesting you mention that he preferred shooting and passing to working in the post as a big man. If he came into the league the year he retired, or a non Larry Brown team, maybe he is allowed to refine those skills like a Jokic or Embiid?

[@dspsblyuth]

So he wasn’t a bust just ahead of his time

[@johnk.7058]

@@dspsblyuth haha who knows

[@jacobesnard]

It’s interesting to think about. Maybe not an all time great but a good player where the culture would nurture his playing style and he’d be in a healthier environment

[@brandonjohnson3797]

Jokic and Embiid?? Nah. But I'd definitely see a Vlade Divac Domantas Sabonis style of play.

[@TheAlfrulz]

Could you try and do a similar episode for Tony Mandarich. He was a much hyped top 5 pick in the 1989 NFL draft. While the other four picks became hall of famers, Mandarich was an all time bust who was out of the league after a few years. He later recommitted himself, and earned his way back into the league as a fringe starter for three years. You could dive into the steroids, the Sports Illustrated cover, the cloudy George Perles era at Michigan State, the weakened state of Green Bay before GM Ron Wolf arrived, and Indianapolis desperate offensive line situation in the later nineties. I see alot of similarities between Darko and Tony.

[@MrJLov13]

The irony of all of that is that Mandarich was also drafted 2nd overall as well....that's an eerie coincidence if there ever was one.

[@YungJ]

I was devastated as a kid that we passed on Melo for this dude, that’s about as Detroit as it gets.

[@drphot6050]

True but he didn't work out with the team and they were a defensive-minded players we know Melo is and never was.

[@BurritoKingdom]

Detroit was gonna take Bosh or Darko. They weren't interested in Melo when they already had Tayshaun.

[@markusbisma5015]

I don't get it. Melo was NCAA superstar. Only few player in my mind achieve that status like Chris Webber or Tim Duncan.

[@SHOW_ME]

@@BurritoKingdom Tayshaun Prince was cool but Joe Dumars made the wrong decision in that draft my guy; especially when your division rival took LeBron

[@BurritoKingdom]

@@markusbisma5015 only Melo won an NCAA championship out of those 3. Melo fit better in the college and international system or how basketball is played now. Remember back than there were always 2 guys on the floor 6'10 or taller.

[@BiigHomiie]

Being from Detroit and going on 33 years old I remember this so vividly and this video helps with my closure on the situation. Cause after all these years we still dont understand what the pistons were smoking to think he was a better option than melo and d wade like wtf????

[@eddyorielly3830]

These are the NBA years and stories I want to re live. I want an earl boykins career retrospective, or possibly a mini dorktown series on weird outlier games like the Tony delk 55 piece and Charlie v’s perpetual slump after dropping 48 as a rookie. This era of basketball feels so far removed to what it is now, but was it ever iconic. The scores were low, the shorts were even lower, but the highs were so fun. P.S. I’m sure Seth feels super good as a knicks fan having to relive this time during Prime post allen Houston Dolan years. Great video again Secret Base

[@floatingfacedown9691]

The Prism is probably my favorite ongoing series on sports right now. How you guys manage to make these entries to dense but still eloquent is really impressive AND it's all for free. You guys are doing great work 👌

[@adelantericky]

Appreciate the work y'all put in. In particular, Seth & Clara always have my attention in a chokehold

[@Islington_Express_Bus]

That pic of Joe Dumars with the two phones always makes me laugh.

[@chrisberry789]

This was one of their absolute best videos. Masterpiece

[@lc9245]

The most important legacy of Darko was that he brought one of his good friend, a Jokic brother to America. Having partied hard and himself failed to achieve anything as a professional sport player in America, the Nikola's brother determined not to let his brother walk the same path as Darko and himself. That's why the Jokics stay together in America; they know what fame, money and lack of control can do to a talented athlete. Because of Darko, we have one of the best centre in the game. Darko sets the example for talented Europeans in the NBA. If Victor panned out, I think it would be fair to say that many have taken Darko's example to heart.

[@usahenry]

If the Pistons drafted Melo over him that would have made for an incredible east battle of LeBron v. Melo v. Dwight v. Wade in the 2000s edit: and Bosh as well, I guess, but the 2000s raptors were pretty terrible aside from 2007

[@atlien1988]

A part of me always wondered if it was intentional that the Pistons didn't draft Melo. Like, it was the OBVIOUS pick and the Pistons would've had an opportunity to reign supreme for a decade in the conference. Sure, Melo wasn't a great defender, but him going to that culture with his offense would've been perfect.

[@thewatcherowl6752]

@@atlien1988 As well as his defense would be improved given, he is surrounded by good defenders.

[@razkable]

They were OK in 08

[@Supreme36074]

League changing at the time didn’t help either, he was a modern big they were trying to force down low, that alone helped sap his confidence & helped lead him to the bottle. Wasn’t a bad player, just drafted way too high… with that being said probably the biggest bust ever because of who else was in the draft. Kwame is second because at least in that draft there were no Lebrons or Wades… let alone even a Bosh.

[@elliemyers6435]

Anthony Bennett is a WAY bigger bust than Kwame. At least Kwame lasted like ten years in the NBA and was a serviceable role player. Bennett didn't even make it passed his rookie contract.

[@Supreme36074]

@@elliemyers6435 I agree, it’s just Kwame held the title 10 years plus before he was drafted so that shits gonna die hard. Mainly because he stuck around. Bennett was out so quick no one remembers him 😂 I’d say Kwame is third behind Bennett, Darko…

[@silewis9396]

​@@Supreme36074I'd take Kwame over Olowokandi. Also look up Larue Martin. 1972 #1 pick. 4 years in the league and did way less than Kwame

[@Supreme36074]

@@silewis9396 I would too… Larue Martin is definitely high in the list too… Candyman was mainly just a spoiled brat being wealthy already when he came here. He had no real love for the game. Actually had a decent skill set. In Martins era it was a lot easier to pick a bust than the modern era. They didn’t have tape in abundance then. He was definitely a bum.

[@bubbybrister2191]

Funny you would bring up someone from my past! I have History with Serbs / Yugoslavs In 2005, three 7ft tall Eastern European men came into my work. Zarko Carbarkapa, Nikoloz Tskikivili & someone they called, jokingly, "John Brown". They said they were new to the area. "John" did not really speak, or was sort of quiet, while the other two were more gregarious, as he left most of the talking to his laughing & giggling friends (which I get. I can be similar). Zarko & Nikoli talked about coming to the Warriors that year, but how (the also 7ft, probably same age as me, at the time) "John" did not play basketball, like them. I said, "Ah, oookay... and ran their cards. I already knew before it got there, but I was trying to play along, until I ran "John's" card, and the receipt came back 'Andris Biedrins'. And, I mean, how many 7ft tall Latvians, or Eastern Europeans have you seen, with names like "John Brown"? With yellow highlighter colored hair, that is gelled straight up, but only for, maybe 3 inchs (if that)? It is a very, _very_ perticular look that one cannot merely pass off by using a fake name. Especially when you are walking through the City with another b;;two of your likesized teammates. I had to say, "Jeeez, you know, you look like Andris Biedrins" while Cabarkapa & Nikoli were laughing like school kids. I worked at a tanning salon & they had come in to get a tan, but they were all to freaking big, so I have no idea how they did it. But they paid & did their 50 minutes, sooo.... Oh, and they never came back. Any of them. I checked before we went out of business (makes sense for Nikoli & Zarko, but damn, Beans, i'd call you John if thats what you wanted. Lol).

[@HandlesMcCandles]

Was always one of my favourite players to draft on Franchise mode in NBA Live at the time. Would always go on to average 25/10/5 and be in the MVP Convo. What could have been...

[@salvydelacrack4155]

He's got one of those names that I swear it seemed like announcers and media just loved saying.

[@cartermills4500]

Banger as usual Seth keep up the great work

[@WilliamJohnson-ml7ij]

Darko won a ring before the other 4 in the top 5. That's a mind boggling fact

[@antoniohoward981]

A orangutan could have gotten a ring on the bench

[@zdthekilla6950]

Darko Milicic will forever go down as one of the weirdest top draft picks ever. Thankfully for him he is also remembered as an nba player first before all the other stuff, sad the way his career played out.

[@Bigedub101]

Anthony Bennett to me still even if u go look at his stats and all, he wasn't even looked at all to be a #1

[@ralphtiff8559]

I remember 03 as a Syracuse native. My favorite joke of 04 was Donnie Darko getting a chip before LBJ or Melo. You did miss one factor in his #2 spot. According to lore Anthony told the Pistons he wouldn't accept a bench role, opening the door for Darko.

[@flipsolo]

That's great point about Darko being the atypical Euro as he no softie. If he wasn't drafted that high, people would be talking of how he changed the stereotypes of Euro big man.

[@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303]

He needed an environment where he could be nurtured and with someone levelheaded to look up to, be it another player or a coach A championship level team, coached by a notorious brickwall of a human being, full of people who were certainly experienced but not exactly levelheaded (not to mention already tight with one another), was the exact opposite of that

[@joonpak]

How he was drafted over Carmelo is mind boggling. Regardless of who was on Detroit’s roster.

[@qceaz11]

Who Is Melo Tho???

[@bogdanristic1407]

Just watch the video my guy. He didn't come into the NBA as a center, but as a really big, athletic, fluid power forward with a potential to develop a solid mid-range jumper (it's the early 2000s, big men shooting from mid-range was an exception). In theory he was KG 2.0. You don't pass on new KG. The thing is, unlike KG, he just didn't care at all. His parties in Detroit and his antics became legendary here in Serbia.

[@LaughingJokerProd]

@@bogdanristic1407 They had Rasheed and Ben Wallace. It feels like they could've done just as well with Carmelo

[@dionicio24]

Wade should’ve went either 2nd or 3rd

[@bogdanristic1407]

@@LaughingJokerProd Sheed didn't start that season with the Pistons.

[@enthusiastofcute]

Considering their coaches hatred fro playing younger guys I don’t understand why they didn’t just trade the pick for a veteran star

[@vaughanb6299]

So happy prism is back, love this series!

[@riccardoferrazzo8283]

The guy had touch, feel for the game, and was big and strong. I will always ask myself what his career could have been if 1) he did not end up in a team where he was basically alone (European, 18yo, white) and 2) he did not end up with a coach who notoriously does not like rookies and notoriously was extremely rigid (indeed, larry brown ended up fighting with every superstar he worked with). Also because, and this is my opinion, if you are an 18yo, and you waste 2-3 seasons playing only garbage time, this will immensely limit the ceiling of your career. Try to give young, motivated Darko to Mike Dantoni. Maybe he would have had a 20ppg career

[@milanradojkovic3818]

He was young, raw, hot headed kid in a foreign country. His talent was great, but to be motivated he neaded to be happy. I watched him when he played for Hemofarm, he was superstar already, big blond giant kid, fast, strong, smart. It was not easy for him to become garbage time player in Detroit. 20 ppg in healthy surrounding? Easily! 20, 10, 4 and 2 😉

[@montblancnoland1]

Possible

[@thomasarmani]

I mean Kobe (17 years old and 13th pick) came out fine after his first two years and faced adversity coming into the league and he was young and talented, he made no excuses and put in the work. Some people make it happen and some don’t...

[@milanradojkovic3818]

@@thomasarmani you are right, i said that he was hot headed, plus, he was a foreigner, plus, he didn't loved America. But he was top 5 talent on that draft... they just couldn't implement him in a system...

[@thequinlanshow3326]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheTwinkiefoot]

Darko's bust status is always a bit overstated. He was drafted into the worst possible situation with a coach like Larry Brown. Had a guy like Donnie Nelson gotten his hands on him, I think his entire career trajectory is different and his potential is realized.

[@suzunakuraki3747]

Exactly. Had Darko been with a rebuilding team, he likely wouldn't be the bust he became. Darko would have actually been developed. At the very least he would have been a defensive presence in the paint, a la Marcus Camby or Andrew Bogut. At best, he would have been Nikola Jokic long before Nikola Jokic. Being drafted into the Pistons did Darko no favors, because the Pistons already had the big men they need, especially after the 2003-2004 Trade Deadline, and they were championship contenders with a set rotation of players to rely on. Plus, Larry Brown was the head coach -- someone that even Reggie Miller hated. With those things I think Even LeBron would have become a bust.

[@Bigedub101]

@@suzunakuraki3747 to be fair only thing in Darko defense is that Larry Brown didn't play rookies like that. ..Remember the Olympics he rarely played his young talent

[@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303]

I think he would've benefitted from a less tight-knit core (the Pistons were all best buds basically) and a coach more interested in young players

[@razkable]

He is a bust cause he didn't do anything early for the team that picked him high and he was drafted before legends

[@simoncaton1226]

The original Ronaldo too would be great for this. People forget how good he was. And that the age of 22, he was as good as he would ever have been

[@twentyseven2948]

He's the first in his class to win a ring. Maybe all Detroit needed that year was a lucky charm. Imagine having to develop a young star such as lebron or melo, and deal with their ego etc, while making a push for the championship.

[@darrellfoster2344]

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[@EvilOrso]

This is exactly my thought process. People always say imagine how many championships Detroit would win with Melo. But like would they have even won one?

[@Freebands460]

@@EvilOrso lmao you really don’t think the pistons would’ve been better with Melo over this bum? Smh sad

[@EvilOrso]

@@Freebands460 well the things is how are we supposed to know ? Does Tayshuan Prince does develop into a star? Do they still trade for Rasheed Wallace? Does Larry Brown even play Melo based on how he used him in the 04 Olympics? Can Melo be the 3 or 4th option on the team? We just can’t know these things.

[@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303]

​@@EvilOrsoDumars said multiple times he would've drafted Bosh, not Melo, if he didn't take Darko

[@ampersand2001]

I've been a Pistons fan since 87, and this has always haunted me 😭😭😭

[@OnGod1007]

They won the chip that season and went to seven games the next season who cares where they drafted they won the championship

[@jasonquinlan1733]

@@OnGod1007 could have won more with someone like wade bosh or Carmelo

[@adnanomeragic9597]

@@jasonquinlan1733 I feel like Brown would have stunted Wade, Bosh or Melo and even Lebron a bit. All of those young players when drafted played for actual rebuilding teams where they were the first option right away. That helps so much in building your confidence and ability to become the greatest. Not sure if Melo would have fit in Detriot's system, especially with his early ego. He was an offensive heavy guy with almost no intention to play D, which Detroit was huge on. He could have come off the bench nicely and led a second squad to outscore other teams, but again ego. I feel the same for Wade. Bosh would have fit in much more nicer.

[@jasonquinlan1733]

@@adnanomeragic9597 I get what your saying but I think if Melo were to be drafted to the pistons I think Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace would have humbled him and developed his defensive game. Scoring wasn’t his problem so he probably wouldn’t have had to work on it much anyways. Plus the Lakers ego problem was apparent that season so I think they would have won regardless.

[@Bigedub101]

@@jasonquinlan1733 I say Melo could might have fit cause he'd probably been better defender and we know he's a bucket...Only problem was Larry brown for some reason didn't play young players, look at 2004 Olympics

[@bobbycone2]

Just imagine how much history changes if he's not picked by the pistons. Maybe Miami never gets Wade. That would change so much the last couple decades.

[@IHJello]

YOOOOO! Thank you Seth! Ive been BEGGING for this video! You made my day! 🤩😍

[@dannyh5937]

That 2003 draft class was absolutely incredible. I remember watching Darko's highlights from overseas and thought he was going to be a monster. Just goes to show you how important your team and coach is to a players success. That Detroit team was stacked and there's not many players that were good enough to step on the court with that Pistons team.

[@jpbazzano3636]

I think he would have done better in a more modern NBA. A player lost in time…. Like Jahlil Okafor.

[@razkable]

I mean if you call a frontline of old man elden young okur and young prince and aging corliss stacked then sure...they weren't really stacked...and it wasn't like ben was shaq

[@elliemyers6435]

@@razkable They added Sheed at the deadline during Darko's rookie year which definitely made that front line tough to crack. But yeah, Elden & Young Okur weren't exactly world beaters :)

[@silewis9396]

​@@elliemyers6435Young Okur could at least shoot the ball well and then figured it out to become a good player after leaving Detroit. Can't say the same for Darko

[@channeljan8529]

​​​@@silewis9396 Their careers aren't comparable. Both Okur's and Darko's favorite player was Toni Kukoc and they emulated his game. But whereas Okur was allowed to play like Kukoc (more perimeter shooting and post feeding) Darko's NBA coaches wanted him to play more like a traditional center with his back to the basket in the low post because he was a 7 footer, but it was never his specialty. Darko's ability to run the floor, feed the post, shoot the mid to long range jumper and block shots were the main reasons why he became the youngest to represent Serbia in international competition. Unfortunately these qualities weren't taken advantage of much in the NBA and probably affected his psyche.

[@andrewlapid5163]

James Wiseman’s role model 🙏🙏

[@brightBoss]

Bro 🤣

[@absolutevalue23]

you just wanted to say "let's see Dark-o thru the prism" because it's a badass line. i'm on to you.

[@Kenzosmuse]

who else would absolutely LOVE to see a series on this channel called "Fast forward". It's like the rewind series, except instead of talking about the moments coming before a historic play, the video talks about the historical impact of one moment in sports. For example, they could make a video on how damian lillard's shot sent OKC into a rebuild, or how kyrie's shot in game 7 shaped the current nba we see today.

[@splashfresco]

Being from Detroit this story hurt different 😭😭😭

[@Stop_arguing_with_strangers]

We put so much pressure on young men. Being a pro athlete is about so much more than just being good at your sport. When I was 18, every day was about getting enough money to buy a pack of smokes and an oz of wax

[@joshuapatrick682]

Darko made a career of being tall, he was only ever in it for the money, and in Serbia 25 million Us has to go far, and that’s just what he’s got left 10 years later.

[@rayanmbadiwe2133]

Even in a video all about Darko, the comments are all about Anthony. I can't say I'm shocked but darn. Practically all busts are made from developmental mistakes, not lack of talent.

[@BurritoKingdom]

I wonder how Darko would have done if he was drafted today. For sure, he'd be in a Wiseman situation and be sent to the g-league to get playing time.

[@officialconch]

Basically he finessed stereotypes to become a teenage millionaire, NBA Champion, and mimic a 7-foot Slim Shady in Detroit

[@harderway8568]

He was a 18yo kid 7000 miles away from his family, having the biggest possible life change and entering the championship team with the coach who didn't even want him. No friends, no support. He wasn't a bust, he was at a wrong place at the right time.

[@jean-philippedoyon9904]

Next on Prism: Rick DiPietro, Franchise number 1 goalie, injurie prone...worst contract in the history of the NHL. That would be fascinating !

[@hardwaylearner]

whats scary is how good the 04 pistons wouldve been if they even half-hit this draft

[@ZachAttackIsBack]

They should have just traded down in the draft for future assets or a vet. Clearly, Larry Brown didn't want to play a prospect.

[@razkable]

I mean technically the only reason they traded for sheed in 04 was cause they missed on darko...so...who knows if they get sheed then....a team of melo prince ben hamillton billups without sheed isn't as good but maybe then they keep okur and corliss but do they still add james or keep him I don't know

[@hardwaylearner]

@@razkable that's a good point

[@dulesavic23]

Reading some of the comments here, just have to put my 2 cents in... Most of you are forgetting how ruthless Larry Brown was with rookies, with Miličić not getting any special treatment from him, either... With that said, player's confidence can be killed very quickly at that age with that much hype, and LB managed to do just that by keeping him on the end of that Pistons bench...

[@suzunakuraki3747]

Darko was 18....you're still kind of a kid mentally and emotionally at 18 even if you're legally considered a full-fledged adult. Getting yelled at by someone older don't feel good -- see Kwame Brown/Michael Jordan.

[@kingslayer3796]

@@suzunakuraki3747 SOFT

[@rnuke_rocket]

I feel bad for Darko cause I didn't even know why Detroit drafted him at #2 considering that Larry Brown as we all know doesn't want to play young guys in the first place like what he did in the 04 Olympics. I think Darko would have thrived if he was picked by a young rebuilding team.

[@DrZaius3141]

The real story is the part that Milicic admitted himself: Attitude is extremely important. Usually when you have divas being successful, they will still have a drive and at least some form of work ethich, but being unable to take criticism, being full of yourself and believing yourself to be a superstar is just a recipe for an uncoachable mess. It's funny how scouts can delude themselves into overlooking bad character when that particular trait is extremely visible.

[@mxhughes]

Same thing with Ben Simmons they been had reports of his questionable character n attitude since high school but they downplayed it because of his abilities probably assuming he'd grow out of it but I've learned in life when you arrogant or have bad attitudes early on it's a hard trait to grow out of

[@DipsAndPushups]

He was put on the bench, he was given small amount of minutes and during those minutes he wasn't allowed to play into his strengths (playing on the perimeter, 3s). Darko Miličić being a bust is just as much the fault of the Detroit Pistons organisation, especially the coach and the arrogant, ignorant American mentality as it was Darko's fault. Had Jokić been treated the same way as Darko was he would have never become what he is now. Yes, it is also lack of work ethic from his side but I am not sure if he would have lacked work ethic if he was given minutes. It is hard to stay motivated when you don't have playing time and during the small amount of minutes that you spend on the court you can't play into your strengths.

[@andrew_l1900]

Darko got drafted to a team that quickly changed coaches to Larry Brown, that’s all you should need to know about why he didn’t pan out. Larry Brown hated young players especially international players. Killed the guys spirit and love for the game

[@UnBR0k3enAngel]

Sometimes I wonder if Darko was a decade to early. Imagine letting a roaming center with high passing IQ play in this NBA era....we might have had another Jokic. Maybe he would have actually gotten to like playing basketball with people who were better than supporting foreign players, like the NBA media is now.

[@EJ09090WRKZ]

What a way to start the weekend! Thanks SB❤

[@ale69420]

12:10 look at that! thats Argentinian legend and pretty good role player in NBA mister Carlos Delfino!

[@daedanjackson9681]

Darko is to the 2003 NBA draft what Tony mandarich was to the 1989 NFL draft, for different reasons, but both will be remembered for being surrounded by Hall of Famers🙃

[@lucagattoni-celli1377]

So many of these stories come down to coaches not letting players play to their strengths.

[@jordanflores5687]

They had sheed, big ben, elden Campbell, cliff Robinson, mehmet okur, & corliss Williamson and they still drafted a big a teenage big at that LMMFAO I wish i could be this incompetent at my job and get millions

[@quattobeast]

That pick single handedly put the Nuggets on the National scene. Without Mello, we get Darko and continue our lives in the pit of despair.

[@razkable]

Should of picked bosh or wade

[@kwonzyy]

How do you do a feature on a player and not show a single play of his...?

[@KTF0]

I don't even remember a single play of his

[@187mrsmith]

I always mixed up darko with Andrei Kirilenko I never realized either that he played 4 my Celtics

[@avtic1]

Straight fire on this one Seth 🔥

[@davidchandler5432]

After Darko fizzled out a bit to start his career, I had hopes that he'd become a Joel Przybilla-type player, since Przybilla was also a lottery bust who became a joke for a bit before losing weight and turning his career around as a defense/rebounding specialist. Przy had a nice, respectable career even with his limitations and I felt that was within reach for the similarly challenged Darko. Darko was tough, real physical when he wanted to be, and I thought he still moved well for his size, but it just never happened for the reasons ya list in the video. Not worth the second pick in a historic draft of course, but it still seems like he could've been a lot more solid than he was.

[@JustGettinStarted]

I’m STILL sick we missed out on Wade, Bosh, or Melo🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Richxwolf]

He got a ring and the bag$, bro is chilling

[@myaheadhurts2]

Just looked up what Darko said about those FIBA refs, Jesus Christ lmao

[@Timur21]

Doesnt surprise me one bit that he said that.. he has cetnik tattoos all over his body and thats what they did during the yugoslav wars: kill and rape..

[@lazypugfilms]

Seeing a lot of James wiseman’s story in darko

[@JJJJ-jw8hc]

Hopefully he can turn it around since the Warriors have other young guys too. It's also worth wondering what GSW SHOULD have done even with hindsight, because I don't think LaMelo Ball would have been a good fit next to steph but hey I could be wrong

[@jferg8956]

@@JJJJ-jw8hc yeah your wrong at cuz Lamelo would be a perfect fit next to Steph.

[@smokecows420]

@@JJJJ-jw8hc i think if they drafted melo, poole wouldn't have developed but they'd be in a pretty similar spot as they are right now

[@aleksandarspasic6067]

Darko's famous video of swearing the refs was after 2007 Eurobasket OT defeat vs Greece. He was suspended by FIBA for it and that also ended up being his last game for the national team.

[@Iamdeejoker]

I saw the notification and I knew it was a instant banger 👍

[@SPTV-Vids]

As a lifelong Pistons fan, this video hurts to watch.

[@tylerharrald4703]

It all kind of makes sense now, especially when you add the fact that a teenager was getting drafted to a team and for the position that the twice reigning NBA Defensive player of the year held down. I think if he didn’t have to sit behind Wallace on a championship team, we would’ve seen just how good he was. And I don’t think we ever did

[@RudieObias]

At least Darko has a championship ring, unlike Carmelo Anthony, who is the only top 5 in the 2003 NBA Draft class not to win the NBA Finals…

[@patrickkelvingabriel6403]

Its sad also that among the top 5 picks on that draft class, my idol, Melo, is still ringless. But still he is a future hall of famer.

[@Nickalzz]

2003 draft class makes me feel so old. I remember those days well 🫣

[@TheeRomantic]

You guys should do a video on Blake Griffin and how he changed the Clippers.

[@johndebono1870]

So this might be a hot take, but I don't think Carmelo or Chris Bosh does any better on the Pistons. In hindsight, it seems like since the Pistons already had a championship squad and Larry Brown never being a coach known for his patience there wasn't really a chance to develop the way that they needed to, especially if you see these old ESPN draft videos, it wasn't crazy for Darko to go 2nd. Personally, I always felt not drafting Wade was the mistake. He would have been great as a sixth man to start and could've have been the guy for the Pistons once they moved away from Billups and Rip.

[@GrownUpKid94]

I think they would’ve had a decent rookie contract, but then forced themselves into a bigger role until free agency.

[@cincy4life13]

This is similar to that one nfl draft with that Aikman, deion sanders, Thomas, Barry sanders and that packers ol

[@DipsAndPushups]

There is no better way to develop players than to take them from Europe while they are still young and then put them on the bench, give them small amount of minutes and during those minutes you don't let them play into their strengths. Right? Darko Miličić being a bust is just as much the fault of the Detroit Pistons organisation, especially the coach and the arrogant, ignorant American mentality as it was Darko's fault. Had Jokić been treated the same way as Darko was he would have never become what he is now.

[@187mrsmith]

Imagine that's the year u win a championship an had u drafted any other of the top 5 draft picks u probably repeat as champs an be set for the next decade plus

[@ggsimmonds1]

I paused at 9:11 and asked myself how those numbers led to the insane amount of hype Drako got. And even this video's narration contributed to that. The whole time I'm looking at 7.6 ppg and 3.9 rpg I'm hearing the narrator speak as if the onscreen graphic left off some leading 1s from those numbers

[@joeneway]

For many outside of Detroit, had the Pistons drafted Carmelo, Bosh or Wade, they most likely do not make the trade later for Rasheed Wallace which led to winning the 03/04 Championship and even if they did, its not for sure they win that title or any going forward, what is tho, is the events that played out and as a Detroiter, wouldnt change a thing, drafting Darko led to a championship.

[@Phillip_of_Burns]

Years ago, I threw away all but one of my ESPN magazines. I kept the one with Darko on it "He's number 2". Couldn't get rid of it...

[@matthewforbes2969]

Imago how many titles the pistons could’ve won if the drafted Carmelo instead

[@MazeDaGr8]

Exactly Anthony along with that squad they had they could have won at least 2 or 3

[@lil_james1584]

Melo and Larry Brown wouldn’t have gotten along. I don’t think that would’ve work. And the Pistons were contenders anyway, they were already in “win now” mode. So they really didn’t need Melo.

[@jacobbell8171]

Wade would have been the best pick for them I think because of their defense

[@qceaz11]

Melo Has Only Been Out Of The 1st Round Of The Playoffs Twice In His Whole Career Stop Overrating That Man

[@Laidback_616]

@@qceaz11 If you saying a rookie Melo wouldn't have extended that Piston run you must be high. Man Avg 21 as a rookie and only went up from there. Nobody on that team averaged 20. It takes a team to make a run, not one guy, and we had a team. Wont say we'd have 4 titles but i will say Melo would've made a finals.

[@gethaunted]

Loving this series and it’s been cool watching the format take shape and develop

[@SonnyK248]

It's still baffling that Detroit didn't take Melo. Melo was such a hyped prospect. I think because he was in the same class as literally the most hyped prospect ever people sleep on how hyped he was. The guy was a megastar in highschool. Then in his one year in college he wins the NCAA title and wins the most outstanding player award. If they picked Melo then they could have become a legit dynasty. The won the chip in 04, lost the finals in 05 and then lost the Eastern Conference finals the following three years. Melo could have made a huge difference in the outcome of some of those years.

[@mxhughes]

Even if tayshaun prince stayed a starter melo could've contributed off the bench with scoring and rebounding.I hate when old Detroit players have a insecure response to when ppl ask what would've happened if melo got drafted there.They act like he would've caused be trouble on the team which I don't believe to be true especially since Detroit was contending for years

[@SonnyK248]

@@mxhughes They competed at the top of the East for five years after drafting Darko. It only took Melo a couple of years to become an elite scorer in the NBA. I don’t think there’s any doubt they probably win at least one more title if they draft Melo.

[@dg96-93]

I kind of wonder how his career would have went if he wasn’t draft eligible in 2003 and got drafted in 2004 instead

[@Concatenate]

Secret Base people, gotta do one on Dragan Bender. Probably just replace Darko with Dragan and use different pictures.

[@ChannelTENthousandBC]

Can Secret Base pleas re-upload the Prism intro... Please😭😭

[@msdsez]

He got in the car but he was too mellow. I couldn't believe we passed on Carmelo. I was so sure until that pick was announced and then the horror started to sink in. Eat Right, Exercise, Die Anyway

[@razkable]

What's weird is they had ben corliss and okur plus elden....not sure why they needed a big...

[@boosiewild9062]

I've been waiting for this

[@CookieBanana]

Could we get a Johnny Manziel video with the same concept but with the nfl?

[@gohabs8918]

Real cool format to this video, giving us the end, middle, then beginning. I like it

[@DanoFSmith-yc9tg]

NBA Live 2004 was my favourite basketball game back in the day, it was LeBron and co. rookie season, but my favourite part was there was a 50 overall rated young player for all 5 positions with really good potential, and we’re all lights out from 3 range, TJ Ford, Josh Childress, Kyle Korver can’t remember the PF, but the C was Darko and that game always gave me a soft spot for him, and the other 3 guys I mentioned, in real life.

[@zebracorn4281]

I never realized he played so long and was a decent player. He's only a bust because his draft class was so strong. Reminds me of former number 1 overall pick Joe Smith, he's only a bust cause he wasnt a star, he had a long solid career.