Darkroom Printing Cinestill 800t (RA-4) - Better than you could even imagine!

[@CertainExposures]

Great photos and a valuable video here. Videos like these are why I keep coming back to KZbin. I’ve been making black and white prints at home with a bare bones set up similar to yours and I was wondering if color would be as doable. Really cool to see examples of people getting it done. You may want to give genuine Kodak Vision 500t stock a try one day. It’s not that much harder to develop in ECN-2 at home than C-41 and you can get your tungsten fill in both low and high speeds (and cheaper). Push it a tad to 800 if you want the extra sensitivity. Although you can develop vision films in C-41, I wouldn’t do it. I’ve seen people get surprisingly good results but my tests showed the ECN-2 was better.

[@ribsy]

thanks for coming back 😊. yea there is so much you can do with photography without having a super legit setup. it's one of the main things i love about film photography. so many ways to achieve an end. would love a tour of your setup

[@CineStillFilm]

Processing Kodak 500T in C-41 is not the same as processing CineStill 800T. For one, 800T is designed for C-41 processing. Also, remjet will contaminate you’re C-41 developer and cause tonal shifts. If you chose to process your film in ECN-2, you will need to fully remove the remjet before it goes in the developer, and still not get good results when printing on RA-4 paper. ECN-2 is designed to create a curve that compliments the color-contrast on ECP print film. Whereas CineStill is designed to do exactly what Doing Film Things did. When you process in ECN-2 and then try to print on color paper it is a muddy mess. Scanning gives you some more control with the curves, so you can probably get satisfactory results with cross processing, but nothing as beautiful as you see here.

[@ribsy]

Thanks for the insight! There is a lot of mystery out there online about these subtle details. This is very interesting and will certainly inform my experiments. Looking forward to seeing the differences between said processes 😀

[@CertainExposures]

CineStill Film Hi, I never suggested that processing Kodak Vision 500T in C-41 is the same as processing Cinestill 800T. I only recommended that Ribs (or anyone reading my comment) develop genuine Kodak Vision film stocks (500T, 200T, 250D, 50D) in ECN-2 _instead_ of C-41. Ribs went on to make that mistake in a subsequent video and he did not like the results. I tried to save him the effort because I’ve personally done both and I will stick to ECN-2 from now on. You made an interesting point about darkroom printing from an ECN-2 negative. I have not tried this (yet) because I have only just learned how to do black and white prints at home. There doesn’t seem to be much info about darkroom printing ECN-2 film on the web so I’m wondering if you’re open to publishing your results/sharing some of those comparison prints you did? It would be helpful for the community to have that reference in a post or forum somewhere permanent. Also, you would have another selling point for 800t fans - assuming any are interested in printing.

[@CineStillFilm]

Johannes Boivie That is a trade secret, but we did file for patent pending in the beginning, but decided to not publish it so people couldn’t knockoff our secret sauce around the world. 😉

[@AlexSinclair]

I watch so many photography videos on here, and this is my first time seeing yours. This has so much more to offer than like 95 percent of them! Major respect for manual printing, but also just going through the whole thing and showing that it does require work and effort and trial and error. Too many people leave that stuff out and just want to seem slick. This is great. Your shots are gorgeous, but those printing skills are on another level. New subscriber. New Instagram follower. Very excited to see what you do next.

[@ribsy]

Hey! I really appreciate the support. I hope to continue making worthwhile content! 😀

[@talleyrand9442]

Looks awesome. I LOVE seeing an actual darkroom print and from Cinestill! Sweet

[@ribsy]

Thanks for watching! Glad it was interesting 🧐

[@photomitch]

I've been printing color for 40 years, way back when I printed on fiber back paper back in 1972. I think you done a great job. Good color correction..

[@ribsy]

Thats amazing - thanks for commenting. Anything i need to try when it comes to color printing?

[@photomitch]

@@ribsy I think you have it all covered. It's great that you have your darkroom set up in the Bathroom like that. Back in the early 70's I had to use a Kodak Drum processor with CP-5 Chemicals. I can see that you have a good eye for color balance . Looking forward to checking out more of your videos.

[@photomitch]

@@ribsy I suggest a set of color filters so you can view your prints to get the proper color balance for your final print. Check eBay, you might find an old set of KODAK filter on there.

[@ribsy]

Ahhh yes. I’ve considered buying some but they are so pricey. The old kits go for $50+ doing it the eyeball way has helped me learn about understanding colors tho

[@Trolleyfox]

This is the coolest thing, I've seen in ages. I honestly had no idea how to print in the darkroom but these look so amazing, I have to try it out some day.

[@ribsy]

yea printing is alot of fun! give it a go 😊💪🏽

[@plateoshrimp9685]

Nice! Portrait with the neon is killer!

[@ribsy]

yea! cinestill plus neon is a classic combo

[@joevelezart]

Thanks for making color printing seem accessible! I've been wanting to do it for a while now.

[@joevelezart]

Great images, btw!

[@ribsy]

for sure! it def is accessible with some planning and a little bit of starter gear! good luck

[@ribsy]

thanks! much appreciated

[@noahdanielstephens8037]

These look incredible, bro!

[@ribsy]

thanks for watching!

[@Al_Bx]

Just came across a reel of yours on Insta and here I am. Dude your content is awesome !!! Great images, nice and clear explanation. And color darkroom printing !! I mean come on! Subscribing right away.

[@ribsy]

Hey! Thanks for the support! Much appreciated 😃

[@MichaelAngeloMacias]

Bro, you’re crushing it! I love that you got substance to what you’re producing. Great value, subscribed

[@ribsy]

thanks for the kind words. glad you enjoy the content 😊

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

They look great mate. Learning more about colour process with your vids. Keep em coming.

[@ribsy]

thanks! im still learning as well, looking forward to experimenting more 😊

[@lynchpin]

These prints look so good! I wasn't ready to go down the rabbit hole of learning something new (printing) with film photography, but you got me thinking. Awesome work!

[@ribsy]

Thanks! Yea the cinestill looks great printed. Give it a try 😎

[@johnkaplun9619]

Nailed the cinestill look. These are great photos and the colors are amazing

[@ribsy]

Thanks!

[@samcoleman8275]

Great video, i really enjoyed the content. Few photo youtubers have darkroom skills (printing) - good to see - keep up the good work.

[@ribsy]

Thanks for watching!

[@alextat]

Found your channel and videos as I'm getting more into analogue - the whole printing process is ways down the road for me, but super cool seeing you showcase the process on your end!

[@ribsy]

welcome aboard!

[@karlmatthias2698]

Those look fantastic!

[@ribsy]

Thanks! I was happy with the result

[@natespencer6007]

this is sick. keep up this content man really enjoy it

[@ribsy]

Thanks! I appreciate your support 😀

[@maximiliano1218]

I'm from Peru and that shirt is from Sporting Cristal. I´m not a fan of that team, but it is interesting that it is part of your collection (you should have gotten one for Universitario de Deportes, my team hehe!). Congratulations for your excellent work, in these times where everything is digital, finding this handmade work, printed on paper, is amazing!

[@ribsy]

Hah yes! Maybe next time I go to peru I’ll buy a new one 😃

[@francisbombus3949]

Really interesting. I look forward to more of this

[@ribsy]

thanks 😊

[@KarinMajoka]

Wow, this is insane, great prints! I was always a bit hesitant to try color printing, but you made it look so easy! On which temperature do you keep your chemicals?

[@ribsy]

thanks for watching 😊 def give it a try, its honestly not too bad. in terms of temp, i honestly don't track at all. i heat them up an hot water bath (not measured) to start but then don't do anything further. in fact, my blix doesn't even live in a water bath after the initial heating. its honestly annoying to know that so many people use to say "if you can't control temp, don't even bother" - they were all wrong! 😅🤟🏽

[@KarinMajoka]

Doing Film Things wow, I am literally blown away right now, because I totally thought you have to be very very precise with the temperature. But it’s so encouraging to hear that this is not the case and you can still get great results without being too perfectionist about it. Thank you! ✌🏼

[@ribsy]

@@KarinMajoka yup! im far from a perfectionist and it works great 😊 check my IG reels -- lots of examples there @RIBSY__

[@abduld]

this was absolutely fascinating dude. awesome job

[@ribsy]

thanks! glad you enjoyed it

[@tomsawyer8802]

Awesome! Keep up the good work, very good video, good informations. Well done!!

[@ribsy]

thanks for watching! i hope to continue producing good content 😊

[@tomsawyer8802]

@@ribsy I do have a darkroom too and I know a lot of things already but this video was really helpful. You do have your own style and that should be appreciated because a lot of youtubers copy each other.

[@Raychristofer]

Good job on this my man, while I do develop and scan my own work I don't have the time, money or the guts to get into printing yet. You're a bad man 😉

[@ribsy]

hahaha ali style! printing is just a great closing point to my images. really makes me appreciate them more

[@RewDowns]

wow you totally nailed it in the end, great photo!

[@ribsy]

Thanks for watching 😃

[@rainzhao2000]

I knew nothing about analog photography but this video was enlightening. Sick stuff 💯💯

[@ribsy]

great! glad you enjoyed it

[@chrismehmet3463]

This was dope! Enjoyed seeing your process

[@ribsy]

Thanks for watching. Glad it was worthwhile 😀

[@beneells6877]

I’m really enjoying watching your color journey and I love your color adjectives and explanations of how they make you feel!

[@ribsy]

thanks! yea its def been a journey 😊 but glad i put in the work

[@kyledarrenhanson]

Beautiful prints, really great work!

[@ribsy]

thnaks!

[@lonniepaulson7031]

This was interesting. I haven't seen anything on KZbin about printing color negatives on color photographic paper. I used to print color in the days of film. I used Kodak paper. I don't think Kodak makes paper for color printing anymore. What type and brand of paper do you use?

[@ribsy]

Ah yes. I use fuji crystal archive nowadays. Open to trying others though

[@PiratePhD]

Oh hey, I saw these on reddit the other day. Nice job man.

[@ribsy]

Thanks! Appreciate the support 😀

[@rorythorns1597]

fantastic video as usual man!

[@ribsy]

thanks for watching!

[@Pembis9000]

If you're not a fan of the halation, you can probably give actual vision 3 500t a go. NTphotoworks here in the UK sell all the kodak vision stocks for cheap, way cheaper than cinestill. I've gone the route of winding my own from 400ft cans. If you self dev the bellini ecn-2 kits are about £30 or so, or you could cross process in c41 to get the colour shifts that 800t gets. Silverpan and NT develop them, but for a bit of an upcharge compared to C41, and you seem to be kitted out to do all this on the cheap.

[@ribsy]

hey - thanks for commenting. i actually just purchased a bunch of kodak 250D from NT. i shot one roll already but haven't developed since I don't have any chems of any sort right now. i saw on Eduardo Pavez channel that he simply does a special wash of the film to remove most of the remjet and then does normal c41. i think i'm gonna try that after i get new chems

[@mikethomas1073]

Brilliant!! Your prints are awesome. Work to be proud of , for sure. I just got 2 rolls of 35mm & scared to go shoot. Everybody seems to recommend shooting it differently. Over expose, under expose. I saw 1 guy said he pushed it to 3200, but said nothing about pushing when processed, but his images were wonderful??? Thanks again.

[@ribsy]

thanks for watching! id recommend shooting at 500 or 800 for the best results

[@michaelbennettphoto]

Geez dude these look so freaking cool dude! Dang man I really want to get into darkroom printing! I’ve done a bit at a summer camp a few years ago but it was just black and white. I was amazed at how amazing the results look. Do you rescan the darkroom prints?

[@ribsy]

Awesome! Yea you should try it. An no, I have never re-scanned any of them

[@Halum11]

i came to your profile because i was intrigued by the possibility of converting c41 to slides.. then i also saw you're doing darkroom c41 printing. maybe i found my religion finally, lol!

[@ribsy]

thanks for the support! haha i am glad that my content is interesting and useful 😊

[@mathieurabary]

Amazing video man! Always wanted to do some Darkroom printing and watching you working though your process made me want to do it even more haha. Liked and subscribed!

[@ribsy]

Awesome thanks for watching. Definitely give it a go - it’s a lot of fun and the end product is awesome.

[@Ry_Gordon]

this is outrageously helpful! thank you!

[@ribsy]

Glad I could help! Are you printing at home as well?

[@Ry_Gordon]

@@ribsy Just about to pick up an enlarger and give it a try!

[@astore3757]

Wonderful images. Do you think possible to print with a Condenser Enlarger and the filters by Arista?

[@ribsy]

hey! it definitely is! it's gonna be a bigger pain than using a color specific enlarger, but it definitely can be done. give it a try - should be fun 😊

[@IainHC1]

Absolutely brilliant!! :-) Thank you :-)

[@ribsy]

thanks for watching 😊

[@monkeysausage2404]

I was actually surprised on just how little chemicals you used. Nice work Ribsy 👍

[@ribsy]

thanks for watching! yes the drum uses very few chems - its great! nonetheless though, with printing i find that i fly through chemicals. need to order about every 2-3 weeks or so if i am active in the darkroom.

[@the6millionpman424]

Hey man just stumbled across your channel. That is an amazing Sporting Cristal shirt you're wearing in this, I started collecting football shirts about a year ago and that one looks sweet!

[@ribsy]

Haha yes! I do have a bit of a collection now as well from all over the world based on my travels.

[@rebelxtnut]

Dude your videos are great. I love that you are printing color at home too. Ive had a B&W home darkroom before. One day Ill have another one, when I do Ill def add in color and learn. Your success are quite inspiring for working in a small space! Just gave you a follow on IG too

[@ribsy]

thanks for watching! glad my process has inspired you - definitely give it a go. it's worth the hassle 😊

[@StevenLawson]

Just discovered your channel and so glad I have, really enjoyed this video, thanks

[@ribsy]

thanks for watching! welcome on board 😊

[@andrewf.7813]

Not much grain it seems in that first print. Solid images 💪

[@ribsy]

yea - i didn't notice much grain either. i think both scenarios had enough light on them to get a good exposure on the film. the shots are sharp which leads me to believe the shutter speed was reasonable, thus generally enough light (i have no idea what settings i used at the time). thanks for watching 👍🏽

[@MurphysFilm]

only shot 1 roll of 800t and never really liked it but the 2nd print has come out really nice

[@ribsy]

thanks! im a fan of cinestill but don't shoot often. its too expensive and can sometimes be a crutch

[@linusandhiscamera]

dogggg this is amazing!

[@ribsy]

Thanks! Having a good time in the darkroom 💪🏽

[@carlitodcreative]

DOPE !!! I love the channel!

[@ribsy]

thanks for the support 😊

[@kathryn4178]

These shots are gorgeous. How do you feel the prints compared to the scans?

[@ribsy]

thank you! seeing something physical is always better than a scan

[@PeteMP3]

Use vacuum wine stoppers to store chemicals.

[@ribsy]

Yea! Ive heard good things about trying that

[@juanpablorebolledobarrera5221]

Me encanto el video, nuevo sub! tremanda fotografia y color de cinestill

[@ribsy]

Gracias! Encantado

[@regaling]

How do you crop ? do you do it on the head or the easel?

[@ribsy]

i crop on the easel. i have no choice actually, since i use an 8x10 proportion easel (4x5) but all my 35mm images are 2x3 proportion i used to use handmade easels but it was hard to quality control. i need to get professional cut mats to get perfect lines

[@regaling]

@@ribsy Thanks for the reply. I really enjoy your darkroom videos. Please keep them up? Is your enlarger and peripheral accessories on a portable cart that you just roll into the bathroom when you pring?

[@regaling]

can you print B&W on you color head?

[@ribsy]

yes i can! i haven't done it tho but you can basically "turn off" the color filtration and just get white light

[@RudyGold]

Dam g. All dope. Dope pics. Dope channel. New subscriber here. Boricua?

[@ribsy]

thanks for the support! na, dominican 🤟🏽

[@RudyGold]

@@ribsy word!!!

[@pacotoledo1112]

What paper did u use?

[@ribsy]

I print on fuji crystal archive glossy

[@ІгорПоляков-ф2й]

You use the same chemic for C41? How long They live for paper, 1liter/shets?

[@ribsy]

what do you mean? for these prints i use RA4 chems - they are different from C41

[@randallstewart175]

If you want to maximize the life of your reusable blix, insert a brief water bath between the developer and the blix to minimize cross contamination of the blix.

[@ribsy]

Interesting. I have considered that but I have so much blix. Developer is the one that fly through during printing even though I’m using small quantities

[@Zetaphotography]

New to your channel. Hit Subscribed. I like what you are doing and I could learn from you. I will go back to see if you have a set up video or a getting started.

[@ribsy]

thanks! much appreciated

[@williamgonzaless.120]

Are you Peruvian? Because of the Sporting Cristal T-Shirt

[@ribsy]

Nope! I’m Dominican American but I spent some time in Peru two years ago 😀

[@ansvel]

Why do make so wide white frame?

[@ribsy]

no reason

[@ansvel]

@@ribsy For testing purpose you use a lot of paper. Many years ago I worked a lot with color paper and we had a rule, only 5% for wasting.

[@thenexthobby]

Great images, and great prints. I'm in danger of watching your darkroom gear guide. I seriously do NOT need another hobby just yet.

[@ribsy]

haha oooops

[@GregoryVeizades]

Love your printing process. So thanks for that. BUT STOP TOUCHING YOUR FILM. Sorry. It's a pet peeve of mine.

[@ribsy]

thanks for watching! i'm curious, is there a specific reason why i shouldn't touch my film?

[@sleepinbeaut]

What paper are you using?

[@ribsy]

Fuji crystal archive