Darkseid vs Steppenwolf War History Comparison | Snyder Cut & Joss Whedon Comparison

Comparison between introduction of Darkseid and Steppenwolf. | Zack Snyder's Justice League Movie Clip Comparison
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[@gamersrespawn4384]

Impressive how they keep all their files and were able to compost the Darkseid CGI easily by replacing the Steppenwolf one.

[@thetimekiller]

Yeah it is pretty impressive

[@novi493]

The crazy thing about all of it, is that it's kinda the opposite. Darkseid was already the one before, he was in previsuals back on 2016. It's Joss & WB who changed it Steppenwolf. All Zack and his team had to do was finish the original visuals

[@komicsa-z8376]

@@novi493 can't imagine the pain of those VFX artist, specially if it was DC fan, knowing he is deleting Darkseid for Steppenwolf

[@novi493]

@@komicsa-z8376 yep. And not just for a bad ass Steppenwolf, but for a cheap looking giant Liam Neeson Steppenwolf. I would hate everything

[@shinjiikari3614]

@@novi493 It's Stephen Wolffie. Snyder Steppenwolf is a real badass, equal to Thanos. Darkseid is a beast.

[@Jonas-ej7id]

Snyder cut was absolutely brutal

[@thetimekiller]

I am glad it was Dark, not just in sense of lighting, but Dark.

[@edrrrk]

that is what I liked about the snyder cut it had brutal scenes

[@DJKO12X]

@@pradipdutta5384 Wouldnt that be Wally West Flash who flirting Wonder Woman?

[@nguyenlongminh1680]

Brutal is god

[@MrKomplicated]

@@DJKO12X its Barry

[@zirkalda9502]

Whedon’s version is awkwardly cut together, making the sequence of events hard to understand. Example: We kick off with Steppenwolf *already* in combat *then* show the armies arriving. It also makes the reasoning for Steppenwolf’s retreat hard to understand. - He killed the Lantern without a problem. - He tanked the blow from Zeus. - His armor withstood Ares’s strike. He had no reason to pull back. And this isn’t even me comparing it to Snyder’s version. This is just the scene on its own.

[@killajok3337]

This comparison just proves zac synder was the right man to direct his justice league movie.

[@thetimekiller]

Indeed he was.

[@broodingchef5542]

@@thetimekiller he only did it because a streaming service needed content and even better that it was 4hours and I just hate anybody who hates whedon because thats all he could do

[@joshwinslow8397]

The Whedon one is superior

[@killajok3337]

@@joshwinslow8397 lmfao your trolling right?? 🤣🤣

[@killajok3337]

@@broodingchef5542 sure I get your point but if your task to re-do or reshoot a film don’t do it half ass or just plain awful. Whedon did the first avenger film amazing. But let’s be honest he wasn’t right to have finish justice league in the first place

[@RightBackAction]

I like the little detail on how the green lantern ring always goes to a host with the most will. Lantern rings don’t head towards noble people but people with dominant willpower. The ring just hovers in front of Darkseid, showing that his will is an attractor for lantern rings. Whereas in Whedon’e version, it just leaves.

[@edrickt5907]

Really? Isn't the vow of the green lanterns something like "forces of darkness beware my power, green lantern's light"

[@spunkymaniac9312]

@@edrickt5907 yeah exactly, the green lantern would never go to a evil dude

[@RightBackAction]

@@edrickt5907 Yeah, but individuals who are cruel or evil can also wield a lantern ring. When Sinestro enslaved his home planet through fear, he still wielded a green lantern ring. It wasn't until he was banished into the antimatter universe and returns that he wields a yellow ring.

[@mathlete855]

@@RightBackAction Furthermore, look at Bruce Wayne of Earth -32 (The Dawnbreaker) he got a green lantern ring and kept it despite his desires to murder his enemies. While one could argue ring only continued to function the way he wanted to after it was corrupted and overpowered by Bruce's will, the ring did not leave Bruce even when he demanded the ring to first kill Joe Chill.

[@vigilant3263]

I like how even though the box of men was just buried 3 feet under the ground it still was the last box to be found

[@thetimekiller]

Haha, wonder how 3 feet seemed fined to them, unless they planned to build a really big building over it

[@sovereignghost3195]

Bruh they buried it thousands of years ago Over time, the ground over it will become thick and the box will be buried much deeper, like 15-20 ft or so minimum You would've known if u passed your middle school geography

[@vigilant3263]

@@sovereignghost3195 damn have you ever heard of a joke before? Also, who hurt your feelings?

[@dsingsit]

@@sovereignghost3195 But the people who buried it didnt know he was gona come after that many years !!.

[@primeproductions4415]

1:20 steppenwolf barely got hurt and retreated. While darkseid literally bled all over his shoulder and had to retreat because he was severely injured. Lmao whedon’s version makes no sense

[@hansturbela9514]

Worst part is he didnt even retreat, he was pushed back by his own parademons. Its so inconsistent, he was pushed back by a couple of parademons but could beat a green lantern

[@primeproductions4415]

@@hansturbela9514 oh yeah. I was gonna say something like but since i heard wonder woman say he retreated, then that was my guess

[@tc-channelhobby4051]

​@@hansturbela9514well they were losing considering it was just him against the old gods meanwhile on the snyder cut, darkseid replacing steppenwolf would still hsve him be a part of the conflict, in fsct with this implication, the old gods would be facing his roster of new gods like big barda, granny goodness and kabalik. Because of this, the war should have been longer to be honest instead of just one battle, snyder forgot this like he darkseid forgot that earth is the planet of anti-life he was trying to get.

[@srikanthramprasad565]

Darkseid bleeding made more sense as it showed that Darkseid thought Earth would be easy to conquer until Ares struck him and his parademons carried him. Darkseid does try to get up but he realizes he lost the war and the Anti Life Equation along with the Mother Boxes. I definitely showed that Darkseid learned to never underestimate anyone.

[@michael92m]

I don't know anything about dc universe but, after seeing the film the first time, my thought was: "A the beginning there was a giant army with all kinds of races to defeat Steppenwolf while in the end all they needed was only a kryptonian? wtf?". The snider cut version indeed makes much more sense

[@thetimekiller]

Not only makes more sense, but also connects events of Dawn of Justice (like the dreams Batman saw)

[@2two279]

i thought the exact same thing. like after all those people gathered together, all they needed was a punch from superman. Like, were we supposed to believe that?

[@Adjei88]

Only think whedon got right was the lantern creating objects with his ring

[@thetimekiller]

Haha true

[@The_IRE_Emeatzer]

Well from what I heard, this Lantern doesn’t create those types of objects with his ring in the comics considering that his home world has no imagination. Again this is based on what I have heard.

[@elishawilson5342]

@@The_IRE_Emeatzer yeah due to will power you're correct

[@TypicallyUniqueOfficial]

Joss Whedon's color pallete is way too saturated.

[@varunnagrare4912]

Yeah it's just ugly

[@thetimekiller]

Exactly, remember the flash? Bright red lmao.

[@kongdoo1226]

@@thetimekiller what flash?

[@notaneboy]

@@thetimekiller *Barry Allen

[@jarrettwhitlow8700]

Not like the Flash is bright red in the comics or anything.

[@br4ss_crusader973]

Whedon steppenwolf: Becomes a 6yo kid when fails a mission Snyder steppenwolf: Never backsdown even if he fails a mission

[@thetimekiller]

Exactly, just insulted Steppen in original

[@MegaLPlover]

Backs down should be two words

[@thehighground7926]

I thought he was pulled out of the battle

[@jedimasteroptimusprime4375]

@@thehighground7926 Yeah, it was all stupid like though, I find it almost comedic, like schaffrillas said about a lot of the Last Jedi, that's what I expect the lego video game adaptation to do

[@MrKamei]

not just that, now after Snyder's cut, people are actually becoming a fan of Steppenwolf. 😁😁😁 it's fact. not kidding

[@bp3kk498]

I think we all owe Ben Affleck an apology, Ben you are my Batman!

[@MrKamei]

we need more people like you, brother

[@karlorange6510]

worst batman

[@elishawilson5342]

@@karlorange6510 nope

[@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme]

Yassssss

[@Aviral-oh1vq]

@@karlorange6510 why r u gae Every Batman except George is perfect Batman

[@coldfury2652]

I’m so glad they had darkseid get partly knocked out for them to put him on the ship if they had his minions drag him back like Stephenwolf that would have pissed me of

[@3Guys1Video]

Lol yeh

[@jmachero5852]

The fact the Snyder cut focuses more on visual storytelling is genius

[@dextersbeard3472]

Is it? That pretty much how movies were from the beginning. Ever see a silent movie?

[@3Guys1Video]

@@dextersbeard3472 yeah but Whedon just tells you everything that’s going on Snyder let’s you watch it

[@jasonquinteros1190]

@@3Guys1Video that’s why Whedon’s is better.

[@3Guys1Video]

@@jasonquinteros1190 so you like your hand being held You’re part of the problem them

[@jasonquinteros1190]

@@3Guys1Video Whedon’s is better and is canon and made more than the Snyder Cut on Blu-Rays/DVDS/Digital HD

[@consumerjtc5835]

Confused me how Steppenwolf alone was able to match against an alliance and the old gods when he got jobbered by Superman and WonderWoman later. This makes slightly more sense.

[@tc-channelhobby4051]

The joss video literally showed he cant win considering darkseid only sent him and a couple of ships and not the entire army whereas snyder darkseid would be literally accompanied bynnot only more ships and parademons but also his roster of new gods and because of this implication, this war would not just be one battle but like the entire planet, of which snyder missed a big opportunity to do.

[@fl00shysushi43]

tell me how steppen wolf barely got hurt from that axe but darkseid nearly died😐

[@thetimekiller]

Exactly, he even wanted more and tried to go back to fight. I would understand if he was wearing his Armor like in Snyder Cut but an axe to your neck is super lethal.

[@slickninja2748]

Well darkseid ain’t have the omega effect yet

[@22sarmad]

first of all *wheadon* and secondly this is uxzas before he became darksied

[@slickninja2748]

@@fl00shysushi43 he was fighting 3 gods long before he became one himself so he probably was strong just not against them

[@swarz08]

Eh, it's Whedon. He probably didn't want too much blood spilled since Snyder was no stranger and not even afraid to spill so much blood, and of course much violence. Whedon wanted to try and match it up with the MCU. Sadly, it didn't do to well.

[@scoobytwenty327]

If KZbin doesn’t take this down it will have 100s of thoustof views soon

[@thetimekiller]

I hope so mate, thanks

[@Shome2049]

One must fail to become a legend.

[@3rik_starne]

Joss Whedons Steppenwolf looks really unfinished and cheap compared to Zack Snyders Steppenwolf

[@3Guys1Video]

Whedon Steppenwolf literally got dragged away like a kid who really wanted the new Star Wars lego set. It’s embarrassing

[@jakubbrezina4604]

I don't understand why they didn't use the soldier turning into parademon and green lantern using hammer in the snyder cut.

[@duongtran9995]

The soldier turning into parademon after The Unity successfully transform the worlds, not before that.

[@thetimekiller]

Yeah the Hammer scene would be cooler than just shooting laser, showing how they can use imagination for people who don't know who Lanterns are. Nevertheless I was completely satisfied with this movie. NO COMPLAINS.

[@MrKamei]

@@thetimekiller yeah, no complaints!!! totally satisfied!!!

[@jakubbrezina4604]

@Mûrazôr's And how do they survive their world getting destroyed?

[@GalyTheSugarLover]

I feel bad for Darkseid missing his chance to be a green lantern

[@radhamanikk2155]

He have will power but he is not worthy to wear the ring

[@sherwin76502]

I might be alone in this but although the Snyder cut was a huge improvement, I liked that Darkseid wasn't revealed in the Whedon version until the end. I thought seeing the final boss right away is kind of a bummer. Take note I don't know much about DC so I didn't expect the big baddie (Steppenwolf) to be a lackey of a much bigger baddie. But I do understand that Darkseid being on the movie pretty mmuch tied up all the loose ends.

[@maliq5112]

I agreed with some of your opinions champ!

[@StuckonStupid84]

The only thing I like about Whedon's version is the idea of Steppenwolf being the one who conquers worlds with the mother boxes in Darkseids name, because it gives a sense of how old/powerful he is. But even then...

[@geoffreyprior8931]

@Rand0m Bullsh1t G0 And that is why he would have lost. The old gods were able to beat him; while the humans fought the parademons.

[@entertainmentfan1463]

The Snyder version makes so much more sense. How the hell can Steppenwolf hold battle against all those enemies including numerous old gods then proceed to get beat like a chump by a single kryptonian then murdered by his own parademons? Like what sort of logic is that?

[@adamstephens8220]

And the fact that Snyder cut made Superman vs Steppenwolf much better, and makes more sense. He even lets the other characters shine.

[@fooey2440]

say what you want about the synder's cut. but you cant say that its not a significant improvment from what we got

[@thetimekiller]

It is a completely different film

[@Sabaelos]

I feel like some parts are forced but at least it serves as a plot to make the characters better. I feel like they could still compress the movie if they could but its still ok.

[@iforgotthenamemate]

I cant Even comprehend how much WB fucked up Snyders vision...

[@thetimekiller]

It is outrageous. It is unacceptable. How can they do this to us?

[@titanstudios2683]

Maybe they like Whedon's version more

[@jasonquinteros1190]

@@titanstudios2683 As they should

[@pratyushkathuria]

I guess we don't realise how good some things are until they're finally gonna go..Just like Ben Affleck's Batman..Ben, Don't go, you're an amazing Batman..

[@kennethangelo4924]

Colored vs black n white The 2017 feels like the avengers,2021 feels like the DC on how most of their movies was dark

[@mathlete855]

Speaking of Black and White, there is a gray version of the Snyder cut on HBO Max.

[@dylanmartinez2461]

To me it feels like two different universes.

[@youareacoward8459]

Actually one is the paradoy, the other is the justice league!

[@SirKolass]

@@youareacoward8459 lmao

[@HansLotap]

The old stepenwolf design is trash.

[@thetimekiller]

It is It is

[@Sunnyboy23-j6s]

What with Whedon and turning villains weak,first Ultron and then steppenwolf,just imagine if he directed IW,Thanos would have been a clown

[@axellozanovasquez2054]

this battle was longer, they summarized it a lot, this should have lasted 10 minutes or more, it is noticeable that there are missing scenes here. comparing with the trailers and the 2017 version, they have modified and deleted soldiers and silhouettes that were there before. #ReleaseTheSnyderExtendedCut

[@thetimekiller]

I thought it is already extended. 24 mins of the scenes were in slow motion.

[@r.i.p.plegaming2327]

I’ve been asking how did that dude became a parade on was he standing on that lava,fire crop circle or was he infected like whaaaaaaaaa

[@itemtest1]

Waiting for sequel :)😉👍

[@thetimekiller]

#RestoreTheSnyderVerse

[@amazingtrooper5893]

i think zack should've left the parademon transformation in his cut but then again i don't wanna see that

[@sreedeepaction4023]

I appreciate that the whole snydercut flim is good but in the history lesson i miss this part 0:18 ,where the humans change into parademons.

[@sreedeepaction4023]

Snydercut is great Josstice league is a piece of shit

[@shurenraorao4850]

Bro they will only change into parademons when the unity successfully combined and cleansed the planet. Not before the unity complete. In whedons version they transformed into parademons even before the unity complete.

[@rockymarlboro6075]

Why they replace darkseid in this scene? I dosnt like how weak darkseid fights

[@thongmounphou3819]

Bro 2017 steppendwolf doesn’t care he just want to continue fighting

[@jasonquinteros1190]

As he should. He was like a king in the Whedon Cut🔥

[@vinaythakur7863]

#RestoreTheSnyderVerse

[@tyoeos7656]

#weneedthesnyderverse

[@Ok-mz3hz]

And I though Steppenwolf was scary

[@richardgonza2154]

Zacks version for SURE!!!!

[@adrianfabay9973]

to be honest ..in snyder cut ..i was expecting that the humans will not just bury the damn cube ..

[@thetimekiller]

Exactly, unless they showed building a real big architectural structure over it.

[@tenryu298]

Not sure about this scene in the Zack's original version. Darkseid was described as a terrifying being throughout the movie, yet in his introduction scene he's got his ass kicked by Ares & ran away. Replacing him with Steppenwolf seems to be the better choice imo.

[@Zo_Ball_out]

I see what you mean I was kinda thinking that too. Maybe it was a younger( weaker ) darkseid I saw on IG that he was called Uxas during this time meaning that battle took place a while back ....

[@CertifiedFresh7]

That was before he was actually Darkseid and as powerful as he usually is

[@vickvalor4508]

He was UXAS then, a younger Darkseid without his Omega and now his more brutal than before..

[@youareacoward8459]

DUDE, he went up against ZEUS! Come one!

[@dogbert14]

Hi Joss

[@WhyNot-qw6vu]

Hate so say it but the green lanterns were better in whedon’s take

[@st346]

At least Wolf was still like... “Lemme at em! Lemme at em!” When he was hurt. Dark Seid was like fawk kit... I got my ass beat imma just stay down. How is he even Boss if he’s like that???

[@jayprince2097]

Funny thing is steppenwolf was barely injured while darkseid was brutally injured

[@The_Marvelist]

You edited it wrong, you cut down the better version in service of… JOSSTICE LEAGUE

[@Cyberleader672]

Green Lantern in 2017- Creates constructs to help fight in the batlle and then shows the middle of a battle where he is killed to build up the threat of SteppenWolf Green Lanter in 2021- "Pew, pew. Face my pussy laser". Get knocked out of the sky by a few Parademons and is then killed by Darkside without giving much of a fight. Lame

[@kenrichgumanid9235]

Why is Steppenwolf is the main villain of Justice League (2017)?

[@thetimekiller]

Cause WB Executives

[@kovac5412]

Bruh why is Diana’s voice so ashy in Whedon’s cut ?

[@youareacoward8459]

Sabotage.

[@thetimekiller]

Hahaha

[@IsraelNowIsraelForever]

I like Justice League, although I was disappointed that multiple scenes in the trailers and television spots were either reshot or excised. Although the musical nods to Superman (1978) and Batman (1989) are appreciated, they do not fit this iteration of the characters; however, Elfman's score managed to sound epic when Steppenwolf invaded Themyscira, and when Diana was telling Bruce about the first time Steppenwolf invaded Earth. However, Tom Holkenborg's score is MUCH BETTER. I do not mind The Flash falling on Wonder Woman's soft bosom, since he was saving her from falling debris in the tunnel and because he saw her as the mother he lost. I also did not mind Cyborg's story arc being deep-sixed, since I am not a comic booke reader. The shots of Miss Prince's backside were also not an issue for me. Superman's computer generated lip was AWFUL. Zack Snyder's Justice League is MUCH BETTER. I also highly recommend Zack Snyder's Justice League: Justice Is Gray Edition, and it must be released on home video. I have a few minor cavillations with the photo play, but I LOVE Zack Snyder's Justice League. Watch Justice League first, and then Zack Snyder's Justice League so you can easily compare the differences betwixt both photo plays. #RestoreTheSnyderVerse

[@JA1100able]

Zach made history be rereleasing this

[@ShabbaRanksMF]

At 1:31 does Darkseid swear an alliance with Trump? Of course, the voice over make the Apokolips Earth so much easier to understand. 😮

[@r.i.p.plegaming2327]

And are all para demons evil all of the sudden like why do monsters that were once human then became a monster is evil all of the sudden

[@ALPHA-qz7wh]

Zack Snyder justice league is batter ❤

[@bloodyair269]

The only thing that i like Josstice version in this scene better is Green Lantern

[@TheTechMuser]

lmao why parademons were carrying steppenwolf back with no reason xD ZSJL > Josstice Shit

[@irubberyouglueonethousand5384]

This version of Lord of the Rings man . . . 😂

[@rehaansadiq4603]

Tbh joss whedon did a better version of the green lantern

[@sangokus6478]

For 1 sec of scenes.

[@Antonio_Sosa99]

Only Good Thing about Josstice League Was Green Lantern with Hammer. That's all

[@thetimekiller]

Ok

[@scarecrow2272]

Snyder Superior

[@thetimekiller]

Indeed

[@kingcatusaur859]

Hmm Josh whedom stephenwolf is way stronger than darkseid because see the comparison between Aries vs stephenwolf or darkseid

[@thetimekiller]

Of course, it is like replacing Thanos with Ronan. They made Steppenwolf too strong in history and too weak in the present time. Snyder cut makes it accurate in my opinion.

[@commenter2959]

Zach snyder's justice league is better but not by much. Too much meandering, too much slo-mo, followed by speedups, wonder woman and flash slow mo, then darting around like road runner was very disorienting. Snyder uses too much choir moaning to show emotional weight, but it just drags on the story. (Spoiler Warning) Also, how did Darkseid's first arrival on Earth not alert him to the location of the Anti-life equation. They didn't even explain how Steppenwolf figured out it was there. Just that the motherboxes showed him? That made no sense. Also, I prefer having Steppenwolf (like in the whedon version) come first instead of Darkseid, makes Darkseid look weak to lose on his first try. This was just a boring movie, too long and meandering. I hate that batman is still a straight man character in the Snyder cut. He's supposed to always have a plan, always serious, always one step ahead. Here he's like a sitcom protagonist constantly reacting instead of proactive, he's not quite sullen enough. Just out of character. WW was more of a serious character than Batfleck

[@maliq5112]

Pretty great analysis! I agreed with the part where there is too much slow mo and speed ups, and how ww character is more serious than batman, but i still love the movie~

[@chairulmaulana1963]

Those colours saturation in josstice league so irritating .

[@elijahsimon447]

Why in the whedon version were they acting like stephenwolf wolf was strong 😂

[@mrdarkseid1569]

But Joss Whedon didn't kill steppanwolf

[@santinoteti2208]

I dont like how ares clapped darksied like what

[@thetimekiller]

Haha, he is a Greek God, so acceptable I guess.

[@stavrosstamelos6890]

its just young UXAS then not true darkseid we know and love

[@shurenraorao4850]

@@thetimekiller and also according to greek mythology, ares will become strong when he was on a war. It's also depends on how big is the war.

[@hta5172]

ZSJL Steppenwolf can beat Thanos

[@huonsmith]

Now that I am rewatching this, they really fucked up the lore of the first one didn't they?

[@sa-yb9qn]

Middle one was best

[@Ok-mz3hz]

Dark side is better he is more scary

[@mattyaguinaga5107]

If Darksied is the ruler of apocalypse then why Steppenwolf fights the gods, Amazon's, and others instead of Darksied himself in the Joss Whedon movie

[@ketlingambriz]

Don’t think about it. Whedon’s version doesn’t make sense.

[@mattyaguinaga5107]

@@ketlingambriz yeah

[@tavolorgia3472]

Im sorry im not a dc fan and they are both exactly the same thing just a different villain. I dont know why people are saying one is better than the other

[@noobpromcoandmore8029]

Because you don't know about the DC universe

[@tavolorgia3472]

@@noobpromcoandmore8029 Dont have to know to figure out they are the same thing

[@Eyeglasses404]

Have you heard of the Ship of Theseus ? Truth is we never get the chance to see the "Real" Snyder's Justice League. We got two versions now. One is with full budget and two directors, another one is controlled budget with old clips. In Snyder Cut he literally used many clipa from previous movies (MOS, WW, BSV).

[@SirKolass]

I'm sure you didn't even watch the movie lady...

[@tavolorgia3472]

@@SirKolass I did

[@emperorofmankind2475]

MOTHER BOX

[@michaelumali8363]

a lot of people had mother boxes in the animated series and it was more of a portal gun that creates boom tubes... they made into a that cube thing like in avengers.... that really pissed me cause they ruined dc movie universe, it copying a another more succesfull franchise... seriously they could introduce darksied as so powerfull beats superman but leave earth alone and say i can destroy it anytime i want but leaves earth alone saying its more interresting alone, the start giving people power on earth so they can another Apocalypse. And the you they whedon or zack could have a bunch of meta humans increasing their power and aligning with dark sied. and dark sied can attack new genesis with earth. but no they did something stupid. these two stories suck because it was bland it stop the super being from destroying earth or conquering earth... how... seriously fuck these two people whedon just did the same stupid shit with avengers and justice league. ya no wonder these movie failed. avengers had already... they could done something different with dc universe that made it more interesting.

[@jetthejudge]

It's very similar

[@thetimekiller]

Yes, they reused the animation, which I believe they must have reused the motion capture data and just used on the Steppenwolf rig.

[@gogetassgss8107]

I hate dc because: the heroes are too powerful like they are gods liek powerful ones, they always have underrated and they got copycats like this

[@bashengatheblackmanta7003]

I will say tht l prefer the visual in joss whedon's version, zack like to use to o much gray filter(yeah l understand he use it to make the cgi more realistic) Its impossible but l would like to see a mixt between both, taking the best element of 2017 to add to snyder's, ex:add the part where the gl construct a hammer or add the brief scene of a soldier turning into a parademon

[@thetimekiller]

I would have to disagree on the visual part, since the saturation of Joss Whedon's version is too high. But I agree on adding the hammer part and parademon.

[@karrotyy]

The color grading is better on Snyder's. Blacks are true blacks there while whedon's images are oversaturated. There's a popular film essay about Marvel's color grading and why many of their movies look like gray parking lots.

[@TasX]

Personally I like the muted palate more. It gives the movie a more dramatic 300 tone as opposed to the high-energy wacky GOTG/Thor Ragnarok vibes. And removing the scene of the soldier turning into a parademon makes the "us versus them" theme more digestable and also seals up a lot of plot holes (remember all the times Steppenwolf travels to different parts of the world? Why didn't he just turn everyone into those parademons?)

[@bashengatheblackmanta7003]

@@karrotyyl know alrrady, I've seen the video already. Dceu film(aswell as fox marvel) has better visual effects and color grading than than mcu

[@bashengatheblackmanta7003]

@@TasX l'm aware that the soldier turning into parademon made no sens in the movie, its just that l like seeing the transformation

[@a.aartszone1661]

Snyder cut is brilliant and brutal

[@elliottmontes2844]

I want the head of Joss bring him to me 👹

[@justinrockstampa]

Synder Cut was way more badass

[@thetimekiller]

Indeed

[@lightningmcdankmeth9453]

noice

[@thetimekiller]

Thanks McDankMeth

[@AstronautLemur]

Joss Whedon is such a terrible director...

[@thetimekiller]

He had some great works but as a person he has been really terrible. If you search, he abuses actors on set. No one likes to work with him.

[@AstronautLemur]

@@thetimekiller I did heard that before. Permanently, the actor of cyborg was abused by Joss Whedon over a script role...

[@akashpanday3583]

I have to agree with Time Killer. He might be a terrible person, but he's a good director.The "Firefly" series directed by him was amazing. Shame it got cancelled after the first season. Same goes for "The Avengers" and "Age of Ultron".

[@AstronautLemur]

@@akashpanday3583 The avengers age of ultron was hideous. I did not enjoyed the plot of the film as it involved with a android that is capable of destroying earth but he's dumb as a regular human for thinking that a AI could help him on destruction by making a body for the AI from using a infinity stone...

[@AstronautLemur]

@@akashpanday3583 I find most of the plots for the Avengers age of ultron to be rushed. It was kinda baffling for me...

[@NorekXtreme]

Josstice Steppenwolf looks like dogshit. One of the worst designed CG Creatures I have ever seen. It's just so awful to look at, not intimidating, not cool, just .... there.

[@thetimekiller]

WB messed up

[@TomOostenrijk]

I don;t find it very impressive. It's all CGI. With enough time and money, I imagine it's pretty run of the mill work for animators.

[@justindavis2711]

Why exactly is CGI a bad thing?

[@Tippotipo]

Try to make Steppenwolf with his animated armour, Darkseid, Dessad and their projection on a rock and parademons without computer generated images (CGI). Try to have disguised actors as their respective character speak with practical effects. You will realize how tedious and time consuming practical effects can be especially when it comes to fix mistakes.

[@TomOostenrijk]

@@Tippotipo Yes, it´s easier and cheaper than practical effects. That´s kind of my point.

[@unknownanonymous1853]

Personally i prefer whedons steppenwolf. Snyder's steppenwolf looks too much like a final boss and a deadly final character. In the movie steppenwolf is serving darkseid and whedon's SW justifies the looks of the one who's serving his master

[@angelemanuelgomez4326]

Yeah, but Snyder's looks more menacing, as its supposed to be, even if he serves Darkseid

[@thetimekiller]

He was a deadly character. Just not for Superman. He destroyed amazons, men and the atlantians.

[@thetimekiller]

Exactly

[@davidthompson184]

No

[@karrotyy]

Whedon's steppenwolf looked like a foot soldier and they never even mentioned darkseid. The villain in Whedons version was comically bad and puny looking. And he died in a puny way - attacked by his minions because he felt fear?? You need a strong villain to justify five of the strongest DC superheroes coming together against him. Whedon failed to deliver.

[@user-qx8vo8dz2w]

The old one looked better

[@thetimekiller]

Are you sure about that?

[@SovurnScholar]

@@thetimekiller I'm sure he means visual wise it looked better. Writing wise? NO!

[@bulatao195]

With Joss Whedon's version of the clip, the colors are a bit bright and it was poorly edited making the clips look out of order.

[@user-qx8vo8dz2w]

@@bulatao195 The armour looked better

[@TasX]

@@SovurnScholar Nah Whedon visuals look like if the movie 300 became a K-Pop girl group debut.