Darksiders Lore: Lilith, Mother of Monsters

[@Daimon-X]

Daemonic Femme Fatale. She's wicked!

[@silverdov]

I believe anything that is said to beat death is a lie, iirc the power ranking for darksiders goes as following: Creator, Charred Council, either the dark prince or Death, Sam, lilith/War, then the other riders, iirc fury was the weakest rider I mean, death had to stop war from gutting her, also iirc if a mission is sanctioned by the council then the riders get their buffs and other abilities or gear, and for the case of death that’d be the harvester which he has forged himself and can only be used in a sanctioned mission or if the seals break? Which is why death went to vulgram to make him new scythes because he couldn’t use the harvester

[@Rodiacreed]

It took the other 3 horsemen to defeat War so I don't know why people keep on saying Death is stronger than him. The comics and novel are not canon but even in those comics Fury restrained War's arm so he can't pull back his hand so Death can cut it off. War confirms in Genesis that it took all 3 to defeat him and that was pre-Darksiders War who now has the Armageddon Blade and killed The Destoryer who defeated Samael.

[@spyrall2210]

Wasn't it also hinted that Harvester was an Abomination or Grand Abomination of some kind as it was crafted from the bones of an unknown race hinted to be the Ravaim

[@lowkeyarki7091]

@@Rodiacreed cause as combatants that uses magical spells and weapons, Raw strength is not the only measure for over all power.

[@ShadeKill]

Abyssal Armour lore video!

[@maybepayton4255]

YES

[@roguelord7719]

I would love to see a video on vulgrim!!!

[@FatalFist]

I wonder if they’ll ever pay off Lucifer and it turns out that he did fall from heaven due to his obsession of wanting to beat the Creator itself.

[@UnseelieFaelass]

Well done as always gentlemen. Perhaps you could do a lore video on the siblings themselves? That being the Four Horsemen. Course it would mostly be for anyone who doesn't know much about them lore wise since they don't go looking and just play the games with what little tidbits of lore they get from them.

[@walterphelan5348]

I think if they could do individual videos on each of the 4 horsemen it would be better to see each separate story of how they got their powers and their journeys throughout the realms and it would probably get more viewers from the people playing the games since thq nordic/gunfire games will most likely continue making the series after the release of Darksiders 3 later this year.

[@UnseelieFaelass]

Fair point there. Very good idea indeed.

[@OmegaSai]

Yet another video that was perfectly executed by you guys! Never disappointed in the content. Love the comedic relief you guys added haha I’ll suggest a video on Azrael and his backstory :)

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Glad you enjoyed! We really like it when we're able to get a few laughs in. :)

[@joaquimpereira4995]

Would do a video discussing what really is a "realm". Like is it a planet? Like Earth? Or is it kinda like a dimention? Because if they are planets that would mean there are millions of realms, right? Sometimes they imply that realm is all places where a certain race lives, like Hell being the area where Demons and Heaven being the place where Angels live, etc, but I'm still confused.

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Due to the pictures we see during the dialog of the narration from the crow father (the one where literal planets are being sucked into black holes) we believe that all realms are their own planets. When it comes to Heaven, Hell etc. Yes those are their own realms so presumably they're their own planets as well.

[@rushi9310]

I would love to see a lore video about the Hellguard and Uriel.

[@rushi9310]

Sam Reddig Gaming copy that!

[@J_liz]

2:08 That caught me off guard

[@dude123446]

well its good to see a video on her.. good work you guys and can i suggest a video on either Abbadon? Azrael? or Uriel please? any of them will do

[@walterphelan5348]

jon ratsey Id like to find out how Azrael fell to corruption🤔

[@mmartinezg004]

Think you're talking about 'The Archon', really powerful angel who fell to corruption and spread it to Lostlight.

[@anthonyrodriguez6680]

In Darksiders they ever talk about the Dark Prince or about the God

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

A few references here and there, but there's really not that much on either of them, though we actually did a video that goes over what we know of the creator. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6axZmWmbNhgh68

[@briondajones9075]

Not by Name, no but a few references from key characters like Archon Lucius and Samiael himself

[@sawmtem.s2369]

Dark prince is Lucifer I think

[@ThunderCustodes]

Few words to describe her: manipulative, seductive, and tactician.

[@Djayscratcher98]

The survival of humans, till their extinction

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

With the exception of a few inserts (like the grim reaper image for death comes from the Horsemen Death, and War fought in some human wars), humanity's history follows our real world history up to Armageddon.

[@Darkon2050]

Can you guys do a video on Vulgrim, the demon merchant?

[@Djayscratcher98]

Abbadon and his reign as the destroyer, angels and the white city, evan one for demons and the horseman ;)

[@captainlog5568]

As of now that DS3 arrived. *Spoiler* as the lord of hollow said to fury, it’s the council that fueled both angels and demons to the idea of starting the war early. So i think it might be the council themselves that tell lilth about abadon’s plot(which council has put those plot for him). So this is my thought. What do u guys think? By the way love your work.

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

For now, not reading the comment, but THANK YOU so very much for prefacing your spoiler so we could avoid it.

[@backmanbolee4853]

Mr narrator 😂😂 Lilith is also your mother.. this is primordial Mother of all creation.. so your God is her..

[@JMObyx]

Lilylililith!

[@walterphelan5348]

I’d like to see a video or preferably videos on Gorewood, Achidna, and Bheithir and how they came to be.

[@mikalbowman6013]

Awesome video 👍🏾

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Thank you!

[@alanwilkinson7605]

This game is one of the best game I've played and playing as death how cool is that bloody awesome

[@setehraelthedarkprince9829]

Thank you so much for this!!!

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

You are so welcome for that! And thank you for watching! :D

[@zangunov8664]

I think I have a theory as to where Strife is, or more what happened to him already. Would explain Samuel's conversation with Death in part 2. I don't think the things he said to Death were a reference to War.

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Yeah we're pretty sure that he's dead long before Darksiders 1. And we do believe that could be one of the reasons for the comment Samael made about "ask your brother".

[@Aditya-wo9zz]

Abyssal Armour plzzz

[@kevinkocher9347]

ROFL 2:08 I haven't seen that meme in years

[@serlistogiette4168]

Love you guys!

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Thank you!

[@samreddig8819]

In case my reccomendation of halo lore wasn't to big a bite for you to chew i reccomend you do Warframe's lore also But here's the catch: Warframe has an amazing series of story quests which intertwine heavily with the lore, so you have to play them first which means you have to play Warframe (though you could do a series on that too) P.S. there is admittidly no way you can do this one better than StallorD's Warframe lore and this is really just go give you another universe to smack your head against the wall of

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

We've actually played some of Warframe (in fact their's a lost episode once upon a time the very first video we recorded... it died) And we enjoy the game. Is there something specific you would want to hear about?

[@samreddig8819]

Two Men and a Mic i would like to hear your take on the origin of the grineer queens since people are pretty sure they have one down but there is still SOME speculation

[@ryanbolin1858]

Can we get a lore video on Uriel?

[@SteveGamesOnline]

I still don’t understand how the horsemen were born...

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

While we don't know the exact parentage of each of the horsemen we do have a video on how their species as a whole came about that goes into more detail than this one. kzbin.info/www/bejne/npDSf5Jne6iNnLs&list=PL3tsXph6vZRxHiD1d8FLdc_y_iyyIcAWm

[@SteveGamesOnline]

Two Men and a Mic Thanks

[@parkerthomas3803]

My take on it is she created them through some sort of ritual. She didn't actually birth them at least in the physical sense. She just "made" them

[@RebelOfTheNorm242]

D2 is pretty clear imo on their creation. The council offered them (the 4) great power and dominion if they were to will themselves as the council's hands. The Sacrifice for such power, was the slaughter of the Horsemans entire race...the Nephilim. When you think of it, that's a pretty damn big sacrifice, as the Nephy race probably consisted of millions, if not Billions of people....but such is the cost of power

[@pard2397]

there is a key dangling on one of her chains and i wanna know whats it for. Dont think it´s the demon key. There is also a lock on her hip. But if that is her chastity belt.. someone else should hold the key!

[@phelps6205]

Aren't the chosen ones from the 1st game all female? Aren't they demons?and they are powerfull, so why did you say Lilith was the only female demon we know at the start of the video?

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Apparently the Stigeon was actually male, But more importantly the Chosen aren't actually demons they are abyssal creatures and thus Lilith is still the first DEMON Female we see.

[@phelps6205]

@@TrueMastersandMorons oh, thanks, don't know why to differ demons from abbissal creatures but okay. (Also, the stigeon laid younglings, how is he male? Welp, it is a giant abissal worm, guess they work differently...)

[@Potato_tomato47]

Maybe it’s like snakes being genderless and able to reproduce asexually

[@Potato_tomato47]

Are the flesh doors like the sphincter doors in halo 3 on high charity

[@StarFox85]

open relationship 😂😂😂 in 50 secs u made me laugh like and sub👍

[@UnseelieFaelass]

This is a super late comment, but I think if I get my life stable, I'll definitely be making a Top Ten Worst Video Game Mothers list. Lilith will be on that list. And while she isn't a Mother in a traditional sense, she still counts based on her lore. And holy shit is she a terrible Mother.

[@UnseelieFaelass]

Also plan to put Gwyneverre from the Dark Souls games on that list. When you look deep enough into the lore, how many kids she has that had terrible fates when she ran away from their respective homes, damn is she a bad Mom.

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

We agree with Lilith. Never really played Dark Souls but she sounds irresponsible. Look forward to seeing it if it ends up being made.

[@UnseelieFaelass]

Thanks. If you want examples of why I think Gwyneverre is a bad Mother, check out Vaatividya's channel. He mainly goes over the lore of the Souls/Borne (Dark Souls and Bloodborne are believed to be in the same universe and it's a general consensus among fans that it's the case.) series and is revamping a few old videos as well. Mainly his videos on the Dark Souls 3 main bosses, his insight videos on Dark Souls 3, and watch his prepare to cry videos on Priscilla and Rosaria. Granted some of the characters are only arguably her children, but there is a lot of evidence to suggest they are her own kids. So yeah, the fates of everyone of her kids(rumored or confirmed) is astounding and wouldn't have happened if she didn't always run away at the first signs of trouble. So far in terms of kids these are the ones everyone or mostly everyone agrees are hers. The Twin Lothric Princes Gwyndolin Yorshka Ocelotte And several unnamed 'heavenly children' Next are the theoretical kids with a lot of evidence to support them being her kids. Dancer of the Boreal Valley Rosaria Priscilla Gertrude

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Tarren - So the only one of those I've heard of is the Dancer of Boreal Valley, and that's only because of a film theorist video on the musical pantameter of her combat. (really interesting btw). But based solely on her, as one of Gyneverre's kids, she sounds both terrifying and, I mean ya probably not the best mom, lol

[@devinyeaman1949]

*SPOILERS* What about D3?

[@krazylary9300]

Dante DMC lore and story?

[@rdragon0bdragon127]

😎😎😎😎😎

[@ThunderCustodes]

Oh and it’s not Nephilim, it’s Nephalem.

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Actually, within the Darksiders canon, it is spelled Nephilim. Outside of Darksiders, yes, we're aware that Nephalem is the more common spelling.

[@ThunderCustodes]

True Masters and Morons I know, but that’s the true name for the race.

[@arnoldcruise5688]

can do skyrim lore ?

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Anything specific you would want to hear?

[@arnoldcruise5688]

@@TrueMastersandMorons about giants

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

@@arnoldcruise5688 They're big, funny, repetitive, and they can slam you up into the air if you get overkilled. Skyrim doesn't really go into any deeper lore than that.

[@khingzluv]

wasn't tiamat female and the spider demon? or do they only count if they can be sexed up. cuz i know a bard who will challenge that

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

They were not Demons they were creatures of the Abyss. :) But yes they were female. :P